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Ok, I am moderator in the nutrition board - until DK demods me - and I am tired os seeing the same myths posted over and over again. Here are some nutritional myths which I am busting:
Myth: Aspartame causes blindness and brain damage
Fact: Aspartame is an amalgamated molecule of methanol, l-aspartic acid and l-phenylalanine. Methanol causes blindness by damaging the optic nerve, true, but the amount required is of the order of a quarter liter. Methanol is also present in most fruits in small amounts, but greater than that which is present in Aspartame. A glass of orange juice has 4 times more methanol than a can of soda, and yet I have never heard of anyone going blind from drinking orange juice.
As for l-phenylaline and l-aspartic acid being excitotoxins that destroy brain cells, it is not true in normal circumstances and they are present in the diet. So you will be getting some l-phenylalaine anyway. Even medical doctors who treat patients with phenylketonuria have not figured out hwo to eliminate l-phenylalanine completely from a diet because it is present in so many foods.
Both l-phenylalanine and l-aspartic acid can excite brain cells to death, but this doesen't happen to healthy people because of the blood-brain barrier. It blocks too much of certain amino acids - as well as germs and virii =-m from entering the brain in amounts that would be excitotoxic to neurons. And remember that l-phenylalanine is an essential amino acid, so you need to get it anyway and your body is ready to deal with any excess.
Myth: MSG causes brain damage
Fact: Free form Glutamate is present in many foods that we have evolved to eat over the past tnes of thousands of years like cheese. It is not a toxic substance although free form glutamte is unusual in Nature - being present mostly in cheese and seaweeds.
Now, glutamate is implicated as responsible for a lot of the damage that amd neuronal destrouction that happens after strokes, but there is no indication that exogenous glutamte causes any harm to neurons. Again, the blood-brain brrier protects the brain from any excess glutamate you might eat barring gigantic amounts. Glutamate can, however, damage or destroy neurons not protected by the blood-brain barrier, like those of the hypothalamus and retina. You would need to eat a pound of pure MSG at once to get any damage to your retina and hypothalamus, and even then no damage will happen to your cortex the thinking part of the brain...
Soy Is Estrogenic:
Fact: The isoflavones in soy are very weak in their estrogenic activity and not even remotely comparable to real estradiol and estrogen in their abiliy to stimulate estrogen receptors. There is no observable estrogen-like effect from soy eaten in normal amounts. Also, soy contains compounds that block real estrogen from latching on to receptors, which given it's low estrogenic activity means that soy is anti-estrogenic. You shouldn't eat soy because soy protein is an allergen to many people and because the polynsaturated fats in soy increase inflammation and oxidative stress, but not because it will tiurn you into women.
Myth: Protein stimulates muscle growth
Myth: Eating lots of protein will make you drink a lot of water to eliminate all the ammonia and uric acid of protein metabolism and make you fat, but won't put single ounce of muscle in your body. Muscles grow via a stimulus, mechanical or chemical, and not because you are overfeeding it protein. Actually, eating lots of protein will cuase you to lose muscle, as protein takes more calories to digest than it contains. If you wwant mass, then youi should eat lots of carb to spare protein. Protein is only used for muslce maintance and the amount of growth that happens day-to-day requires very little protein ok.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Sorry for mispelling some words, but my keyboard is jamming.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Sorry for mispelling some words, but my keyboard is jamming.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Quit melting down and beating on it.
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Sorry for mispelling some words, but my keyboard is jamming.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
shouldn't someone as smart as you be able to fix it in like 8 seconds?
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so how much protein each day is ideal?
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so how much protein each day is ideal?
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Jack didnt worry about any of this stuff.
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so how much protein each day is ideal?
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Enough protein to maintain nitrogen balance plus the little bit you need to build new muscle each day. How much that is easy to calculate. You take into consideration your amount of lean muscle mass you have, the replenishing amount of protein each pound of lean muscle mass requires a day, then you multiply by the total number of pounds of lean muscle mass you have. Then you will add to that the amount you need to provide for growth each day. To calculate that, you take into consideration that Human muscles are 22% protein and then you calculate the total amount of muscle you will be gaining a month. So if you're gaining 2 lbs of lean muscle a month - 24 lbs a year, which is a lot -, then we calculate the total amount of protein you need if you weight 200 lbs at 10% bodyfat as follows: you have 180 lbs of lean body mass, of which 40% is muscle tissue - the rest are bones, internal organs and skin. So you have 72 lbs of lean muscle tissue. Each pound of muscle mass requires roughly 1 gram of protein to maintain a positive nitrogen balance. So 22 divided by 1, roughly the replenishing rate of muscle protein is 3%. Gaining 2 lbs a month means 0.09 lbs of muscle a day. Since each pound of muscle has 22 grams of protein, you need 44 grams a month or slightly more than 1 gram total a day to build the extra muscle. So a 200 lbs bodybuilder at 10% bodyfat needs slightly more than 73 grams of protein a day to maintain his muscle mass and gain 2 lbs of extra lean muscle mass a month. Believe it nor not, this is all that is required. Protein is not used as fuel but simply to maintain a positive nitrogen balance...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Sorry for mispelling some words, but my keyboard is jammingbeen masturbating to giant dudes and blasted on my keyboard.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ok, I am moderator in the nutrition board - until DK demods me - and I am tired os seeing the same myths posted over and over again. Here are some nutritional myths which I am busting:
Myth: Aspartame causes blindness and brain damage
Fact: Aspartame is an amalgamated molecule of methanol, l-aspartic acid and l-phenylalanine. Methanol causes blindness by damaging the optic nerve, true, but the amount required is of the order of a quarter liter. Methanol is also present in most fruits in small amounts, but greater than that which is present in Aspartame. A glass of orange juice has 4 times more methanol than a can of soda, and yet I have never heard of anyone going blind from drinking orange juice.
As for l-phenylaline and l-aspartic acid being excitotoxins that destroy brain cells, it is not true in normal circumstances and they are present in the diet. So you will be getting some l-phenylalaine anyway. Even medical doctors who treat patients with phenylketonuria have not figured out hwo to eliminate l-phenylalanine completely from a diet because it is present in so many foods.
Both l-phenylalanine and l-aspartic acid can excite brain cells to death, but this doesen't happen to healthy people because of the blood-brain barrier. It blocks too much of certain amino acids - as well as germs and virii =-m from entering the brain in amounts that would be excitotoxic to neurons. And remember that l-phenylalanine is an essential amino acid, so you need to get it anyway and your body is ready to deal with any excess.
Myth: MSG causes brain damage
Fact: Free form Glutamate is present in many foods that we have evolved to eat over the past tnes of thousands of years like cheese. It is not a toxic substance although free form glutamte is unusual in Nature - being present mostly in cheese and seaweeds.
Now, glutamate is implicated as responsible for a lot of the damage that amd neuronal destrouction that happens after strokes, but there is no indication that exogenous glutamte causes any harm to neurons. Again, the blood-brain brrier protects the brain from any excess glutamate you might eat barring gigantic amounts. Glutamate can, however, damage or destroy neurons not protected by the blood-brain barrier, like those of the hypothalamus and retina. You would need to eat a pound of pure MSG at once to get any damage to your retina and hypothalamus, and even then no damage will happen to your cortex the thinking part of the brain...
Soy Is Estrogenic:
Fact: The isoflavones in soy are very weak in their estrogenic activity and not even remotely comparable to real estradiol and estrogen in their abiliy to stimulate estrogen receptors. There is no observable estrogen-like effect from soy eaten in normal amounts. Also, soy contains compounds that block real estrogen from latching on to receptors, which given it's low estrogenic activity means that soy is anti-estrogenic. You shouldn't eat soy because soy protein is an allergen to many people and because the polynsaturated fats in soy increase inflammation and oxidative stress, but not because it will tiurn you into women.
Myth: Protein stimulates muscle growth
Myth: Eating lots of protein will make you drink a lot of water to eliminate all the ammonia and uric acid of protein metabolism and make you fat, but won't put single ounce of muscle in your body. Muscles grow via a stimulus, mechanical or chemical, and not because you are overfeeding it protein. Actually, eating lots of protein will cuase you to lose muscle, as protein takes more calories to digest than it contains. If you wwant mass, then youi should eat lots of carb to spare protein. Protein is only used for muslce maintance and the amount of growth that happens day-to-day requires very little protein ok.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
One of the best posts of GetBig...right on the level of Falconeer!!!!!!
BE/ACT/STAY/PRAY/PROCEED POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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A medium sized egg contains only 6 grams of protein and 4 grams of fat and manages to produce a chicken from nothing. It's the 185mg of cholesterol, the master hormone, and the DNA instructions that do the work.
Think about it... 6 grams for a whole chick.
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you are absolutely right about protein. i have gone months eating low protein. less than 100 grams per day, and also low calories, and didnt lose much muscle at all. but the calories i did eat were all carbs, like soda, candy, sugary cereals with milk,. my conditioning sucked, but i was not lacking muscle. and no i dont just make up for it with extra hormones.
i always wondered how i got away with this, but i guess its just normal, and i had it in my head that hundreds of grams of proteins were what you needed to be big and muscular, (220lbs or more)
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Copy and Paste...
600 calories in a muscle somewhere between the size of a pec and a delt. 365 days in a year.
you wanna build 10 lbs. of muscle in 365 days, how many calories will it take above and beyond the build of a man at 5'6" @ 8% bodyfat?
Basic Metabolic Rate for this man:
Activity Rate for this man:
half way in between rate of activity:
Let's see the closest answer all-knowing one. And tell me, do macro-nutrients make a difference when it all comes down?
My bet is around 16 calories, the equivalent to the bite of an apple (above and beyond maintenance level intakes)
I don't give a shit if its fat, carbs or protein. They are extra calories.
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Enough protein to maintain nitrogen balance plus the little bit you need to build new muscle each day. How much that is easy to calculate. You take into consideration your amount of lean muscle mass you have, the replenishing amount of protein each pound of lean muscle mass requires a day, then you multiply by the total number of pounds of lean muscle mass you have. Then you will add to that the amount you need to provide for growth each day. To calculate that, you take into consideration that Human muscles are 22% protein and then you calculate the total amount of muscle you will be gaining a month. So if you're gaining 2 lbs of lean muscle a month - 24 lbs a year, which is a lot -, then we calculate the total amount of protein you need if you weight 200 lbs at 10% bodyfat as follows: you have 180 lbs of lean body mass, of which 40% is muscle tissue - the rest are bones, internal organs and skin. So you have 72 lbs of lean muscle tissue. Each pound of muscle mass requires roughly 1 gram of protein to maintain a positive nitrogen balance. So 22 divided by 1, roughly the replenishing rate of muscle protein is 3%. Gaining 2 lbs a month means 0.09 lbs of muscle a day. Since each pound of muscle has 22 grams of protein, you need 44 grams a month or slightly more than 1 gram total a day to build the extra muscle. So a 200 lbs bodybuilder at 10% bodyfat needs slightly more than 73 grams of protein a day to maintain his muscle mass and gain 2 lbs of extra lean muscle mass a month. Believe it nor not, this is all that is required. Protein is not used as fuel but simply to maintain a positive nitrogen balance...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Interesting stuff. What do you look like? With theories like this you must have quite a good physique if you practice what you preach.
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Sorry for mispelling some words, but my keyboard is jamming.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
SP
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Enough protein to maintain nitrogen balance plus the little bit you need to build new muscle each day. How much that is easy to calculate. You take into consideration your amount of lean muscle mass you have, the replenishing amount of protein each pound of lean muscle mass requires a day, then you multiply by the total number of pounds of lean muscle mass you have. Then you will add to that the amount you need to provide for growth each day. To calculate that, you take into consideration that Human muscles are 22% protein and then you calculate the total amount of muscle you will be gaining a month. So if you're gaining 2 lbs of lean muscle a month - 24 lbs a year, which is a lot -, then we calculate the total amount of protein you need if you weight 200 lbs at 10% bodyfat as follows: you have 180 lbs of lean body mass, of which 40% is muscle tissue - the rest are bones, internal organs and skin. So you have 72 lbs of lean muscle tissue. Each pound of muscle mass requires roughly 1 gram of protein to maintain a positive nitrogen balance. So 22 divided by 1, roughly the replenishing rate of muscle protein is 3%. Gaining 2 lbs a month means 0.09 lbs of muscle a day. Since each pound of muscle has 22 grams of protein, you need 44 grams a month or slightly more than 1 gram total a day to build the extra muscle. So a 200 lbs bodybuilder at 10% bodyfat needs slightly more than 73 grams of protein a day to maintain his muscle mass and gain 2 lbs of extra lean muscle mass a month. Believe it nor not, this is all that is required. Protein is not used as fuel but simply to maintain a positive nitrogen balance...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Mike Mentzer Revisited....
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Whew!!!!,Thank God for this important info...
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I agree with the protein part. Calories are needed more than anything else to build muscle.
I never understood the 180 lbs guys eating 300 grams of protein a day.
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Ok, I am moderator in the nutrition board - until DK demods me - and I am tired os seeing the same myths posted over and over again. Here are some nutritional myths which I am busting:
Myth: Aspartame causes blindness and brain damage
Fact: Aspartame is an amalgamated molecule of methanol, l-aspartic acid and l-phenylalanine. Methanol causes blindness by damaging the optic nerve, true, but the amount required is of the order of a quarter liter. Methanol is also present in most fruits in small amounts, but greater than that which is present in Aspartame. A glass of orange juice has 4 times more methanol than a can of soda, and yet I have never heard of anyone going blind from drinking orange juice.
As for l-phenylaline and l-aspartic acid being excitotoxins that destroy brain cells, it is not true in normal circumstances and they are present in the diet. So you will be getting some l-phenylalaine anyway. Even medical doctors who treat patients with phenylketonuria have not figured out hwo to eliminate l-phenylalanine completely from a diet because it is present in so many foods.
Both l-phenylalanine and l-aspartic acid can excite brain cells to death, but this doesen't happen to healthy people because of the blood-brain barrier. It blocks too much of certain amino acids - as well as germs and virii =-m from entering the brain in amounts that would be excitotoxic to neurons. And remember that l-phenylalanine is an essential amino acid, so you need to get it anyway and your body is ready to deal with any excess.
Myth: MSG causes brain damage
Fact: Free form Glutamate is present in many foods that we have evolved to eat over the past tnes of thousands of years like cheese. It is not a toxic substance although free form glutamte is unusual in Nature - being present mostly in cheese and seaweeds.
Now, glutamate is implicated as responsible for a lot of the damage that amd neuronal destrouction that happens after strokes, but there is no indication that exogenous glutamte causes any harm to neurons. Again, the blood-brain brrier protects the brain from any excess glutamate you might eat barring gigantic amounts. Glutamate can, however, damage or destroy neurons not protected by the blood-brain barrier, like those of the hypothalamus and retina. You would need to eat a pound of pure MSG at once to get any damage to your retina and hypothalamus, and even then no damage will happen to your cortex the thinking part of the brain...
Soy Is Estrogenic:
Fact: The isoflavones in soy are very weak in their estrogenic activity and not even remotely comparable to real estradiol and estrogen in their abiliy to stimulate estrogen receptors. There is no observable estrogen-like effect from soy eaten in normal amounts. Also, soy contains compounds that block real estrogen from latching on to receptors, which given it's low estrogenic activity means that soy is anti-estrogenic. You shouldn't eat soy because soy protein is an allergen to many people and because the polynsaturated fats in soy increase inflammation and oxidative stress, but not because it will tiurn you into women.
Myth: Protein stimulates muscle growth
Myth: Eating lots of protein will make you drink a lot of water to eliminate all the ammonia and uric acid of protein metabolism and make you fat, but won't put single ounce of muscle in your body. Muscles grow via a stimulus, mechanical or chemical, and not because you are overfeeding it protein. Actually, eating lots of protein will cuase you to lose muscle, as protein takes more calories to digest than it contains. If you wwant mass, then youi should eat lots of carb to spare protein. Protein is only used for muslce maintance and the amount of growth that happens day-to-day requires very little protein ok.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Good post man. I get tired of arguing with people about this stuff.
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I agree with the protein part. Calories are needed more than anything else to build muscle.
I never understood the 180 lbs guys eating 300 grams of protein a day.
I agree for the most part but 200 10% (which is a pretty good level depending on height) eating 73 grams of protein? thats silly. Maybe 150 minimum.
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at least 74. (at least that is)
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there really are people who believe that soy will grow boobies on you?
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I agree for the most part but 200 10% (which is a pretty good level depending on height) eating 73 grams of protein? thats silly. Maybe 150 minimum.
Theory is nice, but practice is a diff. thing. 73grams of protein is basically what I consume by eating a certain "whey cheese" I like. Now if I'd divide it to like.. 6 doses - lol.. I doubt that would translate in not loosing lean muscle mass. 200g of a chicken breast has roughly about 46g protein. Now try to keep these 200lb on one chicken breast a day. You're doing it wrong sir (OP). Ridiculous amounts of carbs should be consumed additionally, that would make most fat, and even then I doubt very much muscle would stay in "place".
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I agree for the most part but 200 10% (which is a pretty good level depending on height) eating 73 grams of protein? thats silly. Maybe 150 minimum.
I agree that less than 100 is too little, I was just agreeing with his idea that consuming a lot of protein is not conducive for muscle growth, which is what the majority of guys do out there and what the 'industry' recommends.
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Adonis Principles revisited.
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A medium sized egg contains only 6 grams of protein and 4 grams of fat and manages to produce a chicken from nothing. It's the 185mg of cholesterol, the master hormone, and the DNA instructions that do the work.
Think about it... 6 grams for a whole chick.
oh brother... worst example against eating lots of protein ever...
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food detective..MSG is safe
pt 1
pt 2
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73 grs of protein? Are you joking? Your body needs much more. You have skin, internal orgams, hair, etc... they all need some kind of protein... going low in protein and high in carbs will make you fat... Ketogenics diets exist for a reason. If you cut your proteins to a minimum and icrease carbs you will not build 1kg of muscle in a year. Proteins also have calories, and they are slower to be metabolize, which is good to maintain or increase bw whitout putting fat on!
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id like to see what the thoughts of the other heavier guys on here are regarding protein requirements....
to be fair 75g is fuck all, you could do that in 2 steaks.... were bodybuilders at the end of the day, and ive yet to see anyone look good on low amounts of protien
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id like to see what the thoughts of the other heavier guys on here are regarding protein requirements....
to be fair 75g is fuck all, you could do that in 2 steaks.... were bodybuilders at the end of the day, and ive yet to see anyone look good on low amounts of protien
buselmo did his prep on 180 grams of protein a day, that why i did set a minimum of "150"...eating too low (73 grams ::)) for long periods is a recipe for disaster.
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73 grs of protein? Are you joking? Your body needs much more. You have skin, internal orgams, hair, etc... they all need some kind of protein... going low in protein and high in carbs will make you fat... Ketogenics diets exist for a reason. If you cut your proteins to a minimum and icrease carbs you will not build 1kg of muscle in a year. Proteins also have calories, and they are slower to be metabolize, which is good to maintain or increase bw whitout putting fat on!
I especifically said you shou.d eat 0.3 grams of protein for every pound of lean body mass for positive nitrogen balance, which includes everything but fat. 73 grams would be the specific amount needed to maintain your muscle mass and nothing more. You can add another 10 grams for your growth of hair, nails and for the maintanence of your internal organs.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I especifically said you shou.d eat 0.3 grams of protein for every pound of lean body mass for positive nitrogen balance, which includes everything but fat. 73 grams would be the specific amount needed to maintain your muscle mass and nothing more. You can add another 10 grams for your growth of hair, nails and for the maintanence of your internal organs.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Does plant protein count or it must only be from animal sources?
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I especifically said you shou.d eat 0.3 grams of protein for every pound of lean body mass for positive nitrogen balance, which includes everything but fat. 73 grams would be the specific amount needed to maintain your muscle mass and nothing more. You can add another 10 grams for your growth of hair, nails and for the maintanence of your internal organs.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
how did you come up with the .3 g / lean lb figure?
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Just deadlift, eat and sleep. Then repeat until big. End.
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how did you come up with the .3 g / lean lb figure?
That is the amount beneath which several metabolites of bodily tissue breakdown start to appear in the urine, feces and blood.
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Does plant protein count or it must only be from animal sources?
The figure is for complete protein - all 9 essential amino acids present - and it doesen't matter whether the protein comes from animal or plant.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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73 grs of protein? Are you joking? Your body needs much more. You have skin, internal orgams, hair, etc... they all need some kind of protein... going low in protein and high in carbs will make you fat... Ketogenics diets exist for a reason. If you cut your proteins to a minimum and icrease carbs you will not build 1kg of muscle in a year. Proteins also have calories, and they are slower to be metabolize, which is good to maintain or increase bw whitout putting fat on!
Excess calories make you fat. It doesn't matter were they come from.
Keto diets suck. :)
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Excess calories make you fat. It doesn't matter were they come from.
Keto diets suck. :)
A diet rich in protein actually makes you smaller, since it takes 6 calories to metabolize a gram of protein, which contains 4 calories. You would eventually die of starvation if you only ate protein, as you would be on a negative caloric net value.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I busted NUTritional Myths all over your mom
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I busted NUTritional Myths all over your mom
I doubt it. My mother likes real men with real dicks and not a 14 year-old teenage f.a.g.g.o.t with the maturity of an 8 year-old who still does mother jokes. You idiot fucker.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I doubt it. My mother likes real men with real dicks and not a 14 year-old teenage f.a.g.g.o.t with the maturity of an 8 year-old who still does mother jokes. You idiot fucker.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
hope you get laid soon.. your mother's getting it good.
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This is a damn good thread, and I may decide to add ma 2 cent to it a bit later on ;D
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I especifically said you shou.d eat 0.3 grams of protein for every pound of lean body mass for positive nitrogen balance, which includes everything but fat. 73 grams would be the specific amount needed to maintain your muscle mass and nothing more. You can add another 10 grams for your growth of hair, nails and for the maintanence of your internal organs.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Bang on money.
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hope you get laid soon.. your mother's getting it good.
Yes, my mother is getting it real good from a real man: my dad. You don't understand what that word means since you have watched so many men walk in and out of your house, never staying more than a couple hours, every day for years on end. The closest thing to a father figure you've had was a guy in a pink suit wearing cheap cologne who would beat your mom every day, take her money and then give her an "allowance" with her own money which she made entertaining your "uncles" over the year. It must be really sad to be a 14 year-old f.a.g.g.o.t with daddy issues who watches his dad beat his mom and take her cash every day like you are.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Yes, my mother is getting it real good from a real man: my dad. You don't understand what that word means since you have watched so many men walk in and out of your house, never staying more than a couple hours, every day for years on end. The closest thing to a father figure you've had was a guy in a pink suit wearing cheap cologne who would beat your mom every day, take her money and then give her an "allowance" with her own money which she made entertaining your "uncles" over the year. It must be really sad to be a 14 year-old f.a.g.g.o.t with daddy issues who watches his dad beat his mom and take her cash every day like you are.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Your mother has a full mouth right now.. she can't come to the phone right now. Call back later, Bubby. She says Bubby is your family nickname?
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Your mother has a full mouth right now.. she can't come to the phone right now. Call back later, Bubby. She says Bubby is your family nickname?
Yawn, you are so unwitty and stupid...you lost, kid.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Yawn, you are so unwitty and stupid...you lost, kid.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Your mommy is going to have another kid. Are you ready for another 1/2 brother, huh?
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your mom is busted.
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hope you get laid soon.. your mother's getting it good.
;D
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;D
:D some people are too easy to fuck with
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Enough protein to maintain nitrogen balance plus the little bit you need to build new muscle each day. How much that is easy to calculate. You take into consideration your amount of lean muscle mass you have, the replenishing amount of protein each pound of lean muscle mass requires a day, then you multiply by the total number of pounds of lean muscle mass you have. Then you will add to that the amount you need to provide for growth each day. To calculate that, you take into consideration that Human muscles are 22% protein and then you calculate the total amount of muscle you will be gaining a month. So if you're gaining 2 lbs of lean muscle a month - 24 lbs a year, which is a lot -, then we calculate the total amount of protein you need if you weight 200 lbs at 10% bodyfat as follows: you have 180 lbs of lean body mass, of which 40% is muscle tissue - the rest are bones, internal organs and skin. So you have 72 lbs of lean muscle tissue. Each pound of muscle mass requires roughly 1 gram of protein to maintain a positive nitrogen balance. So 22 divided by 1, roughly the replenishing rate of muscle protein is 3%. Gaining 2 lbs a month means 0.09 lbs of muscle a day. Since each pound of muscle has 22 grams of protein, you need 44 grams a month or slightly more than 1 gram total a day to build the extra muscle. So a 200 lbs bodybuilder at 10% bodyfat needs slightly more than 73 grams of protein a day to maintain his muscle mass and gain 2 lbs of extra lean muscle mass a month. Believe it nor not, this is all that is required. Protein is not used as fuel but simply to maintain a positive nitrogen balance...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
it takes 1 gram of protein per day to sustain one pound of muscle tissue eh? and where are you getting that idea?
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A diet rich in protein actually makes you smaller, since it takes 6 calories to metabolize a gram of protein, which contains 4 calories. You would eventually die of starvation if you only ate protein, as you would be on a negative caloric net value.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Tbombz is the biggest troll in the history of Getbig. Nothing this guy says on any topic has any value whatsoever. It is amazing. What to expect from a guy who allowed another man to insert his penis inside his anus?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Like your garbage on quantum mechanics, where you state that matter is completely incomprehensible by any standard and criteria. Funny that we have the laws of physics and laws of chemistry that result in the same reaction every time, and yet you claim otherwise. Funny that physics, chemistry, physiology, etc, haven't gotten your memo. You are only mildly good at obfuscating things with nonsensical verbiage, and you are not even very good at that. Now go take it up the ass. I know you like it. ;D ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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::) il pray for you
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Just read your statement on protein requirements SMM, and you are correct. I'm taking in approximately 40 grams of protein on a near daily basis, as I am on a rapid fat-loss "diet" and I've lost 8 pounds just this past week and dropped 2 or maybe 3% of bodyfat over this one week period. Anyways, protein requirements are way over-stated. Me thinks that this protein hang-up comes from fear, and from those trying to make a quick buck.
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Francis spewing more BS........no wonder he's dropping down the troll poll faster than Fried chicken disappears at an AlexanderD family reunion. :D
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Just read your statement on protein requirements SMM, and you are correct. I'm taking in approximately 40 grams of protein on a near daily basis, as I am on a rapid fat-loss "diet" and I've lost 8 pounds just this past week and dropped 2 or maybe 3% of bodyfat over this one week period. Anyways, protein requirements are way over-stated. Me thinks that this protein hang-up comes from fear, and from those trying to make a quick buck.
Only 40? Isnt that too little?
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It might be, but I know for sure that 80 grams is enough for me. My main goal now is to drop fat rapidly, even at the expense of losing a bit of muscle. And I'm not so worried about any lost muscle, coz I've discovered that any muscle that is lost from a rapid fat loss diet comes back very quickly once normal caloric intake is resumed. I'm trying something relatively new, which is a cycle diet similar to what Lyle McDonald recomends, so we'll see how it works out.