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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2011, 11:33:34 AM »
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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2011, 11:47:30 AM »
73 grs of protein? Are you joking? Your body needs much more. You have skin, internal orgams, hair, etc... they all need some kind of protein... going low in protein and high in carbs will make you fat... Ketogenics diets exist for a reason. If you cut your proteins to a minimum and icrease carbs you will not build 1kg of muscle in a year. Proteins also have calories, and they are slower to be metabolize, which is good to maintain or increase bw whitout putting fat on!
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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2011, 11:49:15 AM »
id like to see what the thoughts of the other heavier guys on here are regarding protein requirements....

to be fair 75g is fuck all, you could do that in 2 steaks.... were bodybuilders at the end of the day, and ive yet to see anyone look good on low amounts of protien

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2011, 11:58:14 AM »
id like to see what the thoughts of the other heavier guys on here are regarding protein requirements....

to be fair 75g is fuck all, you could do that in 2 steaks.... were bodybuilders at the end of the day, and ive yet to see anyone look good on low amounts of protien
buselmo did his prep on 180 grams of protein a day, that why i did set a minimum of "150"...eating too low (73 grams  ::)) for long periods is a recipe for disaster.

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2011, 12:28:57 AM »
73 grs of protein? Are you joking? Your body needs much more. You have skin, internal orgams, hair, etc... they all need some kind of protein... going low in protein and high in carbs will make you fat... Ketogenics diets exist for a reason. If you cut your proteins to a minimum and icrease carbs you will not build 1kg of muscle in a year. Proteins also have calories, and they are slower to be metabolize, which is good to maintain or increase bw whitout putting fat on!

  I especifically said you shou.d eat 0.3 grams of protein for every pound of lean body mass for positive nitrogen balance, which includes everything but fat. 73 grams would be the specific amount needed to maintain your muscle mass and nothing more. You can add another 10 grams for your growth of hair, nails and for the maintanence of your internal organs.

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2011, 12:43:59 AM »
 I especifically said you shou.d eat 0.3 grams of protein for every pound of lean body mass for positive nitrogen balance, which includes everything but fat. 73 grams would be the specific amount needed to maintain your muscle mass and nothing more. You can add another 10 grams for your growth of hair, nails and for the maintanence of your internal organs.

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Does plant protein count or it must only be from animal sources?

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2011, 12:49:53 AM »
 I especifically said you shou.d eat 0.3 grams of protein for every pound of lean body mass for positive nitrogen balance, which includes everything but fat. 73 grams would be the specific amount needed to maintain your muscle mass and nothing more. You can add another 10 grams for your growth of hair, nails and for the maintanence of your internal organs.

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how did you come up with the .3 g / lean lb figure?

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2011, 01:08:27 AM »
Just deadlift, eat and sleep. Then repeat until big. End.

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2011, 01:08:54 AM »
how did you come up with the .3 g / lean lb figure?

  That is the amount beneath which several metabolites of bodily tissue breakdown start to appear in the urine, feces and blood.

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2011, 01:10:14 AM »
Does plant protein count or it must only be from animal sources?

  The figure is for complete protein - all 9 essential amino acids present - and it doesen't matter whether the protein comes from animal or plant.

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2011, 09:21:36 AM »
73 grs of protein? Are you joking? Your body needs much more. You have skin, internal orgams, hair, etc... they all need some kind of protein... going low in protein and high in carbs will make you fat... Ketogenics diets exist for a reason. If you cut your proteins to a minimum and icrease carbs you will not build 1kg of muscle in a year. Proteins also have calories, and they are slower to be metabolize, which is good to maintain or increase bw whitout putting fat on!

Excess calories make you fat. It doesn't matter were they come from.

Keto diets suck.  :)

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2011, 04:29:27 PM »
Excess calories make you fat. It doesn't matter were they come from.

Keto diets suck.  :)

  A diet rich in protein actually makes you smaller, since it takes 6 calories to metabolize a gram of protein, which contains 4 calories. You would eventually die of starvation if you only ate protein, as you would be on a negative caloric net value.

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2011, 04:34:41 PM »
I busted NUTritional Myths all over your mom
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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2011, 04:42:51 PM »
I busted NUTritional Myths all over your mom

  I doubt it. My mother likes real men with real dicks and not a 14 year-old teenage f.a.g.g.o.t with the maturity of an 8 year-old who still does mother jokes. You idiot fucker.

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2011, 04:44:39 PM »
  I doubt it. My mother likes real men with real dicks and not a 14 year-old teenage f.a.g.g.o.t with the maturity of an 8 year-old who still does mother jokes. You idiot fucker.

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hope you get laid soon.. your mother's getting it good.
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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2011, 04:58:42 PM »
This is a damn good thread, and I may decide to add ma 2 cent to it a bit later on ;D

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2011, 05:04:46 PM »
 I especifically said you shou.d eat 0.3 grams of protein for every pound of lean body mass for positive nitrogen balance, which includes everything but fat. 73 grams would be the specific amount needed to maintain your muscle mass and nothing more. You can add another 10 grams for your growth of hair, nails and for the maintanence of your internal organs.

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2011, 05:16:18 PM »
hope you get laid soon.. your mother's getting it good.

  Yes, my mother is getting it real good from a real man: my dad. You don't understand what that word means since you have watched so many men walk in and out of your house, never staying more than a couple hours, every day for years on end. The closest thing to a father figure you've had was a guy in a pink suit wearing cheap cologne who would beat your mom every day, take her money and then give her an "allowance" with her own money which she made entertaining your "uncles" over the year. It must be really sad to be a 14 year-old f.a.g.g.o.t with daddy issues who watches his dad beat his mom and take her cash every day like you are.

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2011, 05:20:23 PM »
  Yes, my mother is getting it real good from a real man: my dad. You don't understand what that word means since you have watched so many men walk in and out of your house, never staying more than a couple hours, every day for years on end. The closest thing to a father figure you've had was a guy in a pink suit wearing cheap cologne who would beat your mom every day, take her money and then give her an "allowance" with her own money which she made entertaining your "uncles" over the year. It must be really sad to be a 14 year-old f.a.g.g.o.t with daddy issues who watches his dad beat his mom and take her cash every day like you are.

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Your mother has a full mouth right now.. she can't come to the phone right now. Call back later, Bubby. She says Bubby is your family nickname?
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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2011, 05:23:54 PM »
Your mother has a full mouth right now.. she can't come to the phone right now. Call back later, Bubby. She says Bubby is your family nickname?

  Yawn, you are so unwitty and stupid...you lost, kid.

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2011, 05:27:48 PM »
  Yawn, you are so unwitty and stupid...you lost, kid.

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Your mommy is going to have another kid. Are you ready for another 1/2 brother, huh?
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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #46 on: March 19, 2011, 05:35:27 PM »
your mom is busted.

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #47 on: March 19, 2011, 05:54:45 PM »
hope you get laid soon.. your mother's getting it good.

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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2011, 05:55:23 PM »
;D
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Re: Nutritional Myths Busted.
« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2011, 07:35:23 PM »
 Enough protein to maintain nitrogen balance plus the little bit you need to build new muscle each day. How much that is easy to calculate. You take into consideration your amount of lean muscle mass you have, the replenishing amount of protein each pound of lean muscle mass requires a day, then you multiply by the total number of pounds of lean muscle mass you have. Then you will add to that the amount you need to provide for growth each day. To calculate that, you take into consideration that Human muscles are 22% protein and then you calculate the total amount of muscle you will be gaining a month. So if you're gaining 2 lbs of lean muscle a month - 24 lbs a year, which is a lot -, then we calculate the total amount of protein you need if you weight 200 lbs at 10% bodyfat as follows: you have 180 lbs of lean body mass, of which 40% is muscle tissue - the rest are bones, internal organs and skin. So you have 72 lbs of lean muscle tissue. Each pound of muscle mass requires roughly 1 gram of protein to maintain a positive nitrogen balance. So 22 divided  by 1, roughly the replenishing rate of muscle protein is 3%. Gaining 2 lbs a month means 0.09 lbs of muscle a day. Since each pound of muscle has 22 grams of protein, you need  44 grams a month or slightly more than 1 gram total a day to build the extra muscle. So a 200 lbs bodybuilder at 10% bodyfat needs slightly more than 73 grams of protein a day to maintain his muscle mass and gain 2 lbs of extra lean muscle mass a month. Believe it nor not, this is all that is required. Protein is not used as fuel but simply to maintain a positive nitrogen balance...

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  it takes 1 gram of protein per day to sustain one pound of muscle tissue eh?   and where are you getting that idea?