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Afghanistan: 8 UN Workers Killed, Including Two Beheaded By Demonstrators Protesting Florida Koran Burning
KABUL, Afghanistan — Afghan officials say eight people have been killed at a U.N. office in the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif when a Quran burning protest turned violent. At least two of those killed were beheaded, Reuters reported.
Demonstrators stormed the office Friday, opening fire on guards and setting fires inside the compound after reports that a Florida pastor burned a copy of the Muslim holy book on Sunday, March 20. The burning was reportedly part of a trial at the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Fla., according to USA Today.
The mock trial was overseen by the controversial pastor who last year halted plans to burn a Quran on the anniversary of Sept. 11. That proposal sparked protests and condemnation around the Muslim world.
Gen. Daud Daud, commander of Afghan National Police in the north, says the dead included five guards working for U.N. and two other people employed at the complex. He says one other person was wounded. Later, a police official in Balkh province, said the injured person, who was a foreigner, died.
A spokesman for Balkh province, Munir Ahmad Farhad, says several hundred demonstrators were peacefully protesting the purported burning when the gathering suddenly turned violent.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42376051/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/
And to think that the UN does nothing but suck Muslim dick every chance they get.
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Pakistan was feeling left-out so they decided to attack a bunch of churches and shoot some Christians:
Pakistani Islamists Attack Third Christian Church Over Florida Koran Burning
Islamabad (AsiaNews) — An armed group of seven people attacked the Catholic Church of St. Thomas in the military district of Wah, about 45 km from Islamabad. The attack took place at 6.30 pm yesterday, while the security guard was absent. The extremists hurled stones, damaged the building and tried to set fire to it, but they did not shoot. Yesterday’s was the third attack against a church in Pakistan less than a week. The escalation of violence is a result of the mad act — repeatedly condemned by Christians in Pakistan and India — of pastor Wayne Sapp, who last March 20, in Florida burned a copy of the Koran under the supervision of the evangelical preacher Terry Jones.
The extremists were armed, but did not open fire. Unable to break down the door, they tried to set it on fire. The parish priest, Fr Yousaf, rushed to the scene of the attack and tried to reassure the small Christian community. “It’s a reaction — the priest told AsiaNews — to the desecration of the Koran in Florida, although the Catholic community has condemned the act. We pointed out clearly that we have no link with the Americans. At the time of the attack there were no guards, the police are present only on Sundays. ”
The caretaker of the church of St. Thomas confirmed that the attack occurred yesterday, at about 6.30 pm, taking advantage of the absence of the security guard. A group of six or seven armed men broke through a small door and started throwing stones at the windows, smashing the small lamps and tried to break the door. The caretaker called the priest and the police, he is currently still in shock and does not intend to make statements.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Third-church-attacked-as-Pakistani-extremists-declare-war-over-Florida-Koran-burning-21147.html
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Pakistan: Islamists Retaliate for Florida Koran Burning by Attacking Churches, Killing Two Christians and Burning Bibles
Islamabad (AsiaNews) — Two believers killed, churches attacked, copies of the Bible burned: the Christian community in Pakistan is once again the victim of violence by Islamic fundamentalists, who have targeted places of worship in the country. The extremist violence was triggered by the insane act — repeatedly condemned by Christians in Pakistan and India — of the pastor Wayne Sapp, who last March 20, in Florida burned a Koran under the supervision of the evangelical preacher Terry Jones.
The escalating violence has raised alarm over the fate of Asia Bibi, a symbol of the abuses committed in the name of the blasphemy law. The bishop of Islamabad / Rawalpindi defines the US pastor a “fanatic” who encourages followers to a “violent ideology”, the consequences of which have an impact “on innocent Christians” across the world.
On March 25, a mob of Islamic extremists attacked a Pentecostal church in Hyderabad, killing two Christians and burning some copies of the Bible. Eyewitnesses said that the fundamentalists stormed the place of worship looking to set it on fire, but a group of believers defended the church. Security forces have fled the scene, leaving those present at the mercy of the crowd. The attackers hurled anti-Christian slogans and a feeling of anger toward the religious minority has spread. in the city.
The pastor of the church reports that “despite the condemnation of the burning of the Koran” the community “has come under attack because they think that we are linked to the Americans.” He emphasizes that “we are Pakistanis, who were born in this land and we do not have any kind of relationship with the United States.” “What fault did those two innocent people have — he ends — who were not Americans, but only Pakistani Christians?”.
In a second incident, the Full Gospel Assembly Church, in the Badami Bagh area of Lahore, was attacked. Again fundamentalists burned the church, threw copies of the Bible into the street and accused the Christians of blasphemy, claiming they found pieces of the Koran, not far from the church. During the attack some security guards were injured.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Two-Christians-killed,-churches-burned:-extremists-respond-to-Florida-Koran-burning-21139.html
Tolerance! ::)
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Pakistan's waging war on our 1st amendment:
Pakistani Government Asks Interpol to Treat Florida Koran Burning as a “Violent Crime”
Islamabad (AsiaNews) — The Pakistani Interior Minister Rehman Malik — on the recommendation of President Asi Ali Zardari — has sent a letter to Pope Benedict XVI and the Secretary General of Interpol Ronald Nobel, in which calls on them to condemn the burning of the Koran and take action against the instigator, the American pastor Terry Jones. The Senate in Islamabad has also intervened on the episode, unanimously passing a resolution urging the U.S. to bring the controversial preacher to justice.
The mad act of Pastor Wayne Sapp, who last March 20 in Florida burned a Koran under the supervision of the evangelical preacher Terry Jones, has sparked controversy and violence. The initiative has been repeatedly strongly condemned by Christian leaders in Pakistan and India, defined as “an insane and disrespectful act” by a U.S. citizen that has nothing to do with the Christians of Pakistan. However, the burning of the Koran has sparked the reaction of Islamic fundamentalists who, in the space of a few days, have attacked three churches and killed two people, fueling the climate of fear and distrust within the Christian community.
The letter addressed to the head of Interpol, explains Rehman Malik, demands that the matter be treated as a case of “violent crime” and that urgent measures be taken for the future, to ensure such episodes are not repeated. The resolution adopted unanimously by the Senate, as well as requiring urgent action against the pastor Terry Jones, calls on all Muslim countries to express their indignation against the United States and the United Nations to register a “shameful act” towards Islam.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Pakistani-Minister-calls-on-Interpol-and-the-Pope-to-condemn-Florida-Koran-burning-21178.html
The fucking nerve of these Muslims.
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Animals in the zoo are more civilized.
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Animals in the zoo are more civilized.
There are countless examples of Muslims desecrating bibles, churches and killing Christians/non-Muslims yet I never hear stories about Christians storming UN buildings and beheading people.
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Florida Pastor Responds to Slaughter of UN Workers in Afghanistan Over Koran Burning
KABUL, Afghanistan — Thousands of protesters angry over the burning of a Quran by a Florida pastor stormed a U.N. compound Friday in northern Afghanistan, killing at least 12 people, including eight foreigners, and that pastor has issued a response:
In regard to the riots that have just taken place in Afghanistan at the UN headquarters, the actions of breaking in, setting on fire, and killing of at least 10 individuals so far is highly unacceptable for the government of the United States.
We, at Stand Up America Now, find this a very tragic and criminal action. The United States government and the United Nations itself, must take immediate action. We must hold these countries and people accountable for what they have done as well as for any excuses they may use to promote their terrorist activities. The time has come to hold Islam accountable.
Our United States government and our President must take a close, realistic look at the radical element Islam. Islam is not a religion of peace. It is time that we call these people to accountability. We demand that our United States government stand up and speak out against these acts. These people must be called to justice.
We demand action from the United Nations. Muslim dominated countries can no longer be allowed to spread their hate against Christians and minorities. They must alter the laws that govern their countries to allow for individual freedoms and rights, such as the right to worship, free speech, and to move freely without fear of being attacked or killed.
Dr. Terry Jones
The demonstration in Mazar-i-Sharif turned violent when some protesters grabbed weapons from the U.N. guards and opened fire, then mobbed buildings and set fires on the compound, officials said. Demonstrators also massed in Kabul and the western city of Herat.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/article/198917/3/Update-Rev-Terry-Jones-Responds-to-Deadly-Protests
That was actually surprisingly well said by Jones.
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Like Trump said "We have a muslim problem, its not Swedes doing this type of shit"
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Like Trump said "We have a muslim problem, its not Swedes doing this type of shit"
Shockingly, 60% of the dhimmi pollsters on the Guardian's website think the pastor is responsible for these murders. And people wonder why England is turning into an Islamic state.
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Shockingly, 60% of the dhimmi pollsters on the Guardian's website think the pastor is responsible for these murders. And people wonder why England is turning into an Islamic state.
If it was not that, it would be something else. At least animals kill to eat and survive. These beasts kill for what? A book?
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Shockingly, 60% of the dhimmi pollsters on the Guardian's website think the pastor is responsible for these murders. And people wonder why England is turning into an Islamic state.
Turning? It already is.
This kind of shit disgusts me to the very core of my being.
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Religion of peace.
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Death toll over 25 now as more people died in riots today.
Keep showing the world how civilized you are, guys!
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MOAB
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Rop.
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Here's a shocking revelation: the dhimmi fucktards in the western world are falling over themselves in order to condemn Jones for the burning instead of actually holding the psychotic Muslims that carried out these murders responsible. Didn't see that coming.
Say it with me: Islam can do no wrong. Islam can do no wrong. Islam can do no wrong.
(Politico)- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told CBS’s Bob Schieffer on Sunday that some members of Congress were considering some kind of action in response to the Florida Quran burning that sparked a murderous riot at a United Nations complex in Afghanistan and other mayhem.
“Ten to 20 people have been killed,” Reid said on “Face the Nation,” but refused to say flat-out that the Senate would pass a resolution condemning pastor Terry Jones.
“We’ll take a look at this of course…as to whether we need hearings or not, I don’t know,” he added.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/0411/Reid_Well_look_into_Koran_burning.html
Best not upset the violent Muslims because they might react violently! ::)
What a sick fucking world we live in. Western retards willingly volunteering to destroy their freedom of expression to placate the most violent, intolerant and bigoted people on the planet who give nothing in return.
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Here's a shocking revelation: the dhimmi fucktards in the western world are falling over themselves in order to condemn Jones for the burning instead of actually holding the psychotic Muslims that carried out these murders responsible. Didn't see that coming.
Say it with me: Islam can do no wrong. Islam can do no wrong. Islam can do no wrong.
(Politico)- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told CBS’s Bob Schieffer on Sunday that some members of Congress were considering some kind of action in response to the Florida Quran burning that sparked a murderous riot at a United Nations complex in Afghanistan and other mayhem.
“Ten to 20 people have been killed,” Reid said on “Face the Nation,” but refused to say flat-out that the Senate would pass a resolution condemning pastor Terry Jones.
“We’ll take a look at this of course…as to whether we need hearings or not, I don’t know,” he added.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/0411/Reid_Well_look_into_Koran_burning.html
Best not upset the violent Muslims because they might react violently! ::)
What a sick fucking world we live in. Western retards willingly volunteering to destroy their freedom of expression to placate the most violent, intolerant and bigoted people on the planet who give nothing in return.
Are you freaking kidding me? ::)
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What an idiot. Typical lib.
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UN envoy: UN workers killed running from bunker
by Deb Riechmann for Associated Press, April 2:
KABUL, Afghanistan – Fearing for their lives, the U.N. workers dashed into a dark bunker hoping to escape the mob of Afghan protesters angry over the burning of a Quran by a Florida church.
Hope wasn't enough for three of them. They were hunted down and brutally slain — their bodies found later in three different parts of the compound in northern Afghanistan.
"They were killed when they were running out of the bunker," said Staffan de Mistura, the top U.N. envoy in Afghanistan, who recounted their harrowing deaths to reporters on Saturday evening. "One was pulled out alive because he pretended to be a Muslim."
De Mistura spoke in a somber tone as he described how three U.N. staff members and four Nepalese guards were killed Friday when the protesters stormed their compound in the normally peaceful city of Mazar-i-
Sharif. He placed direct blame on those who burned a copy of the Muslim holy book in Gainesville, Florida, last month, stoking anti-foreign sentiment that already was on the rise after nearly a decade of war in Afghanistan.
"The demonstration was meant to protest against the insane and totally despicable gesture by one person who burned the holy Quran," he said.
He also said the U.N. building would not have been attacked if there had been an adequate cordon of Afghan police separating the demonstrators and the compound.
A formal inquiry is under way, but de Mistura said initial reports indicate that seven to 15 insurgents infiltrated a group of as many as 3,000 demonstrators who overran the U.N. compound, which was protected by
Afghan policemen and six U.N.-hired Nepalese guards. The crowd overpowered the guards — who are instructed not to shoot into crowds of civilians, even if they are threatening — and the police were not able to stop them, he said.
Four of the Nepalese guards were killed; some were shot in the yard of the compound. Three Afghan U.N. workers survived by melding into the surging crowd, he said. Four Afghan protesters also were killed in the riot.
Protesters had set fire to cars and an electric generator in the U.N. compound so the bunker was dark. It was the only safe place for the four foreign U.N. workers on the compound, including the Russian chief of mission. But the door of the bunker was made to withstand a bomb attack, not the sheer force of a crowd of people trying to get inside.
When the killers forced themselves inside they saw Pavel Ershov, the mission chief who is fluent in Dari, one of two languages spoken in Afghanistan. They beat him, but stopped after he convinced them, in Dari, that he was a Muslim, de Mistura said.
"He spoke the language and tried to draw their attention on himself," the envoy said. "For a moment, he hoped that they would think there was nobody else there."
But using a light, the attackers found the three other foreigners, then pulled them out and killed them one after the other. Two died of bullet wounds. The third was killed with a knife to the throat.
They were identified by officials in their home countries as: Joakim Dungel, a 33-year-old Swede who worked on human rights; Lt. Col. Siri Skare, a 53-year-old female pilot from Norway who was an adviser; and
Filaret Motco, a 43-year-old Romanian who worked in the political section of the U.N.
De Mistura spoke to reporters in Kabul after flying back from Mazar-i-Sharif. He was at the airport in Kabul when the victims' bodies were flown to the capital Saturday evening. In talking with top officials in Mazar-i-Sharif, he said he was convinced that the killers were insurgents, not demonstrators.
Protesters confiscated AK-47s from security officers at the scene, but all except one of the U.N. workers were killed with handguns, he said.
Moreover, the mission chief and some of the U.N. Afghan staff workers said the killers spoke in a dialect not common to Mazar-i-Sharif. De Mistura said authorities told him that several of the people arrested were from other parts of Afghanistan, including Kapisa province in the east and Kandahar in the south. Both provinces are hundreds of miles (kilometers) from Mazar-i-Sharif.
De Mistura said he was concerned that the deaths of the foreigners would give people, especially in the West, a reason to argue against continued involvement in the nearly decade-long Afghan war. He said the U.N. would not pull out of Afghanistan, but that he was temporarily redeploying 11 U.N. workers from Mazar-i-Sharif to Kabul because they can no longer work in the office, which was destroyed and looted.
President Hamid Karzai publicly condemned the March 20 Quran burning, leading some to blame him for triggering the protests. De Mistura, however, blamed the person who torched the holy book.
The pastor, the Rev. Terry Jones, had threatened to destroy a copy of Islam's holy book last year but initially backed down. On Friday he said Islam and its followers, not his church's burning of the Quran, were responsible for the killings.
"Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of offending culture, religion or traditions," de Mistura said. "Those who entered our building were actually furiously angry about the issue about the Quran. There was nothing political there."
But he said that with uprisings in the Middle East, and waning foreign support for the war, Karzai's government needed to pay more attention to the security of foreign civilians working in Afghanistan.
"I'm profoundly sad and I'm also shocked by what I saw, but we continue our work," de Mistura said. "We are not going to be deterred."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110402/ap_on_re_as/as_afghan_un_attack;_ylt=As0Hf67cvVs_GtlDg8ityu5n.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTM3MHNwOWVmBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwNDAyL2FzX2FmZ2hhbl91bl9hdHRhY2sEY2NvZGUDbXBfZWNfOF8xMARjcG9zAzEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawN1bmVudm95dW53b3I-
Savages. Typical of the pussies at the UN to point the finger at someone else instead of the animals that carried out these murders.
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Disgusting. these animals who worship the pedophile prohpet - piss and shit be upon him, should be left to starve and kill themselves off.
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;)
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Maybe our leaders on the left should go to Pakistan and help them protest, and see how friendly the savages over there really are. I bet the liberal fucktards would be singing a different tune then.
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;D
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MSNBC: Burning the Koran is worse than burning the Bible
From Hardball:
GHOSH: The thing to keep in mind that’s very important here is that the Koran to Muslims, it is not — it is not the same as the Bible to Christians.
The Bible is a book written by men. It is acknowledged by Christians that it is written by men. It’s the story of Jesus.
TODD: Yes.
GHOSH: But the Koran, if you are a believer, if you’re a Muslim, the Koran is directly the word of God, not written by man. It is transcribed, is directly the word of God.
That makes it sacred in a way that it’s hard to understand if you’re not Muslim. So the act of burning a Koran is much more — potentially much, much more inflammatory than —
TODD: Directly attacking — directly attacking God.
GHOSH: — than if you were to burn a — burn a Bible.
TODD: Directly attacking God.
MSNBC and other far-left dipshits carrying the water for Islamofascists? Never. ::)
Remember everyone, Islam > your inferior religious beliefs!
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Don't Christians believe the bible is the word if god?
Not making a counter argument in favor of Islam, Muslims, radical extrmeist, here.
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Don't Christians believe the bible is the word if god?
Not making a counter argument in favor of Islam, Muslims, radical extrmeist, here.
So you're saying the Koran supersedes the Bible because Mohammed claimed it came from Allah?
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So you're saying the Koran supersedes the Bible because Mohammed claimed it came from Allah?
No, how did you conclude that from my post?
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No, how did you conclude that from my post?
I didn't. I'm just trolling.
Someone on another forum summed it up these MSNBC clowns better than I could:
"All Christians hold that the Bible was written by men under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. None believe that its authorship is solely human. These two, however, use the word “transcribe” to imply that no humans touched the Koran in the same way they touched the Bible.
Even worse, they impute divinity to the Koran so that the bound pages that comprise the sum total of the book are God himself, which is patently absurd. To attribute any kind of divinity to the book itself, whether new or used, is nothing less than idolatry, or Koranolatry, if you will. It is worshipping the creation rather than the creator and is proof that Islam worships a book, not a god, unless, of course, these two idiots want to concede that the Koran is God, in which case there’s really no reason to pursue this any further."
It's a stupid fucking argument and a ridiculous claim to make. This babying of fanatical Muslims needs to stop.
Why are we even entertaining the idea of making excuses for people who chopped innocent heads off and killed 10+ others? Is that what this world has come to? Muslims have free reign to kill at will anytime it can be argued that they were "slighted".
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The left always makes excuses for these murderous savages.
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Inside the Massacre at Afghan Compound
MAZAR-E-SHARIF, Afghanistan—Officials are painting the weekend killings at the United Nations mission in northern Afghanistan's largest city—which sparked cascading violence across the nation—as the handiwork of a small band of insurgents that used a protest against a Quran-burning as cover for a murderous plot.
But a Wall Street Journal reconstruction of Friday's assault, based on unreleased videos, interviews with demonstrators and the U.N.'s own recounting of events, shows a more complex picture and indicates that ordinary Afghan demonstrators played a critical role in the attack.
Stirred to action by a Quran-burning at a Florida church, thousands of people swarmed past hapless Afghan police officers, heading toward a lightly protected U.N. compound. There, members of the tight-knit staff had been paying little attention to the angry protest unfolding at the city's central mosque.
Mazar-e-Sharif has long been considered one of the safest cities in Afghanistan. So the diverse U.N. staff—including a female Norwegian fighter pilot, a seasoned Russian diplomat and German woman who had been at the mission for only a week or so—took few precautions even when the mob converged on their compound, burned an American flag and threw stones at the blast walls.
By sunset, seven U.N. workers were dead. In the ensuing days, demonstrations cascaded across Afghanistan, claiming more lives Saturday and Sunday in Kandahar, far to the south.
Based on interviews with survivors, Staffan de Mistura, head of the U.N. mission in Afghanistan, concluded that a handful of insurgents—including Afghans with accents suggesting they came from other parts of the country—spearheaded Friday's attack on a safe room in the compound.
The rioting, which the Taliban say erupted spontaneously, adds a disturbing new threat in a country that is fighting a mostly rural insurgency. Foreign and local military forces alike are ill-prepared for riot control.
"Every security-force leader's worst nightmare is being confronted by essentially a mob," said Gen. David Petraeus, the commander of 150,000 U.S.-led coalition forces, in an interview Sunday, "especially [a mob] that can be influenced by individuals that want to incite violence, who want to try to hijack passions, in this case, perhaps understandable passions."
The Quran-burning, held March 20 at the Dove World Outreach Center by church leader Terry Jones in Gainesville, Fla., was "hateful, extremely disrespectful and enormously intolerant," Gen. Petraeus said.
Mr. Jones called Gen. Petraeus' remarks "unconstitutional" and disputed that his actions complicate U.S. efforts to fight the Taliban. "I do not necessarily think that our actions make his job more difficult," he said in an interview Sunday. "The Taliban or radical Islam will use any excuse to incite more violence. If they don't have one, they will make up an excuse."
Friday, thousands of people gathered in Mazar-e-Sharif's revered Blue Mosque. Speaker after speaker denounced the Quran-burning, which for Muslims is abhorrent because Islam teaches that the physical book is holy.
"Stand up against the enemies of the Quran with your pen," one of the men shouted from the podium, videos show. "Stand up against them with your voices. Stand up against them with weapons. It is everyone's right to stand up against them and make a jihad."
The protesters then surprised police by pouring into the street and marching toward the U.N. office, more than a mile away. At one point, according to videos reviewed by the Journal, the badly outnumbered police tried to use a six-foot wood beam to hold back the crowd. The protesters easily surged past.
Only about 60 police were deployed, and they appeared uncertain how to respond. Initial attempts to disperse the crowd by firing warning shots appeared only to inflame the demonstrators. The besieged U.N. staffers headed to two safe rooms intended to shield against intruders and bombs.
They phoned for help from the nearby military bases of German and Swedish forces, according to a person briefed on the situation. The U.S.-led military said the situation "escalated rapidly" and that a swift-reaction team didn't arrive until after rioters were gone.
Once demonstrators flooded the compound, a dozen Afghan police guards—the first line of defense—dropped their weapons, said Brig. Gen. Esmatullah Alizai, the provincial police chief. "They were surrounded and confused," he said.
Inside the compound, a small contingent of Nepalese Gurkha guards working for the U.N. faced a conundrum: They were under U.N. orders not to open fire on demonstrators. The videos show one guard feebly trying to wave an elderly demonstrator out of the compound.
Nearby, videos show, demonstrators used bent metal rods to smash a row of white U.N. SUVs.
Among those attacking the U.N. vehicles was a young religious student from a small village not far from the city. The student said in an interview that he and one of his friends found a propane tank that they shoved under one vehicle and set off an explosion.
Nearby, the student said, two Afghan policemen were hiding with a foreigner behind a tanker. When one of the officers shot and injured a young demonstrator, the student said he saw a chance to disarm him.
"Grab his weapon," the student said he shouted to his friend, who wrestled a Kalashnikov assault rifle and used it to shoot the unarmed foreigner.
Inside the building, other attackers targeted one of the safe rooms. The door proved little protection against the mob. As intruders penetrated the safe room, Pavel Ershov, a Russian diplomat who speaks fluent Dari sought to protect three staff members by distracting the assailants, the U.N.'s Mr. de Mistura said.
"Are you Muslim?" the assailants asked Mr. Ershov, according to one diplomat briefed on the attack. Mr. Ershov lied and said he was, the U.N. said. The assailants tested him by asking him to recite the traditional profession of belief in Islam, which begins, "There is no God but Allah."
When he successfully completed the test, his life was spared. Still, he was dragged into the street and beaten badly, according to a local shopkeeper who said he participated in the assault.
The attackers searched the darkened bunker with a lamp and discovered Lt. Col. Siri Skare, a 53-year-old Norwegian military attaché—the former fighter pilot—seconded to the U.N., along with Joakim Dungel, a 33-year-old Swede who had been working in the human-rights office for less than two months, and Filaret Motco, a 43-year-old Romanian who headed the mission's political section.
As Lt. Col. Skare attempted to flee the bunker, she was intercepted by the Afghan demonstrators who had set the car on fire. She was shot with the rifle commandeered from the police officer, one of the men said. Lt. Col. Skare died of her wounds. Messrs. Dungel and Motco were killed elsewhere.
Four Afghans—men also described as "insurgents" by by Gen. Alizai, the police official—were also killed. Video footage of demonstrators leaving the U.N. compound shows two men carrying Kalashnikovs and one showing off a large, blood-spattered knife.
As the attackers focused on the four U.N. workers who had been hiding in the first safe room, diplomats said, three or four others, including the German newcomer, were sheltered in a safe room in another building. They survived.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703712504576241110591067484.html
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Lol. Ok turn the boat around a make a few morebruns, I'm sure you will catch something. :D
13th century culture, I am not surprised. Next they'll claim the ants told the Koran was god.
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Where do we draw the line? Theo Van Gogh was stabbed in the street by a Muslim for having the gall to make a video critical of Islam's treatment of women. Was that his fault? According to those on the left, it was.
Piss on a statue of Christ = art
Burn a Koran = hate crime.
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Where do we draw the line? Theo Van Gogh was stabbed in the street by a Muslim for having the gall to make a video critical of Islam's treatment of women. Was that his fault? According to those on the left, it was.
Piss on a statue of Christ = art
Burn a Koran = hate crime.
I am sure you can find article from some extreme lefty crackhead saying Theo is. But to me that crack head doesn't represent most people or most leftys.
Would Straw or any other of the resident libs say so about Theo?
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I am sure you can find article from some extreme lefty crackhead saying Theo is. But to me that crack head doesn't represent most people or most leftys.
Would Straw or any other of the resident libs say so about Theo?
Substitute Theo Van Gogh with this Jones guy who burned the Koran and it's still the same argument. Everyone from MSNBC to the UN is blaming this guy for a bunch of rampaging Muslims running around killing shit.
They're waging war on our right to freely express ourselves and people in the west are willingly going along with it.
Burn a Bible, Torah, Hindu or Buddhist scripture and for the most part the worst you'll get is a strongly-worded letter, if anything at all.
Burn a Koran = "moderate" Muslims on the other side of the planet run around chopping heads off of innocent people.
Muslims blow up 41 people at a shrine like they did today in Pakistan = not a word of protest from the Muslims of the world.
Talk about backwards.
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We should have a BURN THE KORAN DAY!!! the entire muslim community would violently protest themself to death.
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There are countless examples of Muslims desecrating bibles, churches and killing Christians/non-Muslims yet I never hear stories about Christians storming UN buildings and beheading people.
I agree with this.....there is definitely a double standard....but what do we do about it?...we can't go tit for tat with them because then we lower ourselves to their standard.....any suggestions as to what we should do to combat this?
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Substitute Theo Van Gogh with this Jones guy who burned the Koran and it's still the same argument. Everyone from MSNBC to the UN is blaming this guy for a bunch of rampaging Muslims running around killing shit. They're waging war on our right to freely express ourselves and people in the west are willingly going along with it. Burn a Bible, Torah, Hindu or Buddhist scripture and for the most part the worst you'll get is a strongly-worded letter, if anything at all.
Burn a Koran = "moderate" Muslims on the other side of the planet run around chopping heads off of innocent people.
Muslims blow up 41 people at a shrine like they did today in Pakistan = not a word of protest from the Muslims of the world.
Talk about backwards.
How are they blaming this guy? The thread article said nothing.
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They are neandertals, sad ignorant people who lives in the middle-ages clinging to a fantasy they call their belief.
They are the scum of the earth and should be wiped out from the surface of this planet.
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FBI Says Hezbollah Has $2.4 Million Bounty on Head of Koran Burning Pastor, Says He’s Willing To Die For Beliefs
(ABC News)- Terry Jones, the Florida pastor who supervised the burning of the Koran last month, said he’s not backing down after receiving death threats.
Jones said he feels no responsibility for the violence sparked by his church’s action, including the violent protest at a United Nations complex in Afghanistan Saturday that left at least 11 people dead – and 20 killed in weekend violence.
…Of Saturday’s violence, Jones said it proved his point.
“We wanted to raise awareness of this dangerous religion and dangerous element,” Jones said. “I think [today's attack] proves that there is a radical element of Islam.”
While Jones does not plan on any future Koran burnings, the death threats are streaming in.
“Right now we have a little over 300 threats, today 10 threats have come in,” Jones said.
Some threats are so specific that they name date time and place.
The FBI said Hezbollah has a $2.4 million bounty on his head.
But Jones and his assistant Wayne Sapp, the man who actually soaked the Koran in kerosene and burned it, said they’re not afraid and are willing to die for their beliefs.
“We see growth around the world – we feel very strongly for U.S. – United States, U.N. to stand up and do something…Muslim countries must open doors to freedom in,” Jones said.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/pastor-terry-jones-receives-deaths-koran-burning/story?id=13289242
Will the world condemn Hezbollah should this guy get whacked? Doubt it.
Also to note, the Mohammed cartoonists are still under constant police watch due to the list of active death threats on their heads so this guy shouldn't expect anything less.
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How are they blaming this guy? The thread article said nothing.
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Lindsey Graham is out here talking out making it illegal to burn a koran, the leftists are screaming as usual that the pastor is to blame, etc.
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Which article? I've posted about a dozen in this thread.
I wasn't referring to the just the show. Read a little. There are dozens of dozens of articles on this. The UN, MSNBC, Harry Reid, RINO Graham and other leftists have all laid blame on Jones for the murders and not the Muslims who carried them out.
Lindsey Graham is out here talking out making it illegal to burn a koran, the leftists are screaming as usual that the pastor is to blame, etc.
RINO Graham needs a primary right out of office.
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Which article? I've posted about a dozen in this thread.
I wasn't referring to the just the show. Read a little. There are dozens of dozens of articles on this. The UN, MSNBC, Harry Reid, RINO Graham and other leftists have all laid blame on Jones for the murders and not the Muslims who carried them out.
RINO Graham needs a primary right out of office.
The left seems to like to do that, if someone gets shot its the gun not the asshole who pulled the trigger. Burning the Koran, stupid idea, because everyone with half a brain knows what is going to happen. The pastor is media whore looking for his 15 minutes. What I fail to understand is why you have all of them in place going ape shit, drop a JDAM and be done with it. Every time a protest goes bad BOOOOOOOM. Even the dumbest assholes on the earth might get the idea, rampage = bad.
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Which article? I've posted about a dozen in this thread.
I wasn't referring to the just the show. Read a little. There are dozens of dozens of articles on this. The UN, MSNBC, Harry Reid, RINO Graham and other leftists have all laid blame on Jones for the murders and not the Muslims who carried them out.
RINO Graham needs a primary right out of office.
I didn't see it in the article that you started the thread with. Is it in the dozen or so articles? If so which one?
I just find it outrageous that some one would blame the pastor. I want to read it. Just don't all that much time today.
I was also thinking as reading through this thread, that the left, in some ways are saying Muslims are like sub human animals that shouldn't be purposefully antagonized. Like for example, if you purposefully go antagonizing a tiger and it goes on to kill 3 kids.... Pretty pathetic huh?
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I didn't see it in the article that you started the thread with. Is it in the dozen or so articles? If so which one?
I just find it outrageous that some one would blame the pastor. I want to read it. Just don't all that much time today.
I was also thinking as reading through this thread, that the left, in some ways are saying Muslims are like sub human animals that shouldn't be purposefully antagonized. Like for example, if you purposefully go antagonizing a tiger and it goes on to kill 3 kids.... Pretty pathetic huh?
The head of the UN mission blamed the pastor. Harry Reid and other members of congress are looking into passing a resolution condemning him. Petraeus has hinted at Jones being the one at fault. It goes on and on.
You're right, though. The left does view them like that. And they're afraid of them. They'd rather roll over and die than criticize them for fear of them reacting violently, thus giving them carte blanche to murder at will to get their way. Hence them focusing on the pastor instead of the fanatical savages that chopped two heads off and killed 8 others.
There's a pathetic double standard on display here.
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Yeah, if you get the animals riled up its your fault.
Fucking crazy.
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Yeah, if you get the animals riled up its your fault.
Fucking crazy.
It's the world we live in. They have free reign to kill whoever they want in order to get their way. And the west just keeps empowering them.
The funniest part is that 42 peace-advocating Muslims were blown up by the Taliban in Pakistan over the weekend and there hasn't been a single word of condemnation or rage out of the Muslim world.
Failed 14-Year Old Pakistani Suicide Bomber: ‘I Want to be a Martyr’
(NY Daily News) — They don’t call it extremism for nothing.
A teenage suicide bomber who failed to blow up pilgrims at a shrine in Pakistan stunned his captors when he made clear how desperate he was to die for his cause.
“Let me go, I want to be a martyr,” 14-year-old Fida Hussain screamed as policemen led him away. “I want to send all you policemen to hell.”
While Hussain was unable to detonate the bomb strapped to his chest, others succeeded Sunday, killing 42 people and wounding 100 more among the thousands gathered at a Sufi shrine near Dera Ghazi Khan.
A second suspect was also detained alive at the shrine, but police revealed no details about him.
Both apparently hail from an area known for breeding militants.
With his strikingly boyish face, Hussain represents the most insidious practice of the Taliban in recruiting young, uneducated boys to carry out suicide attacks.
Experts say young boys are not only less suspicious, but they are easier to indoctrinate into the cause.
“You are all accomplices of the enemies of Islam who are bent upon eliminating Islam and Muslims,” Hussain yelled, according to police officer Khalid Mahmood.
“If I get a chance, I will again strike as a suicide bomber.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/04/04/2011-04-04_teenage_pakistani_suicide_bomber_whose_explosive_belt_failed_to_go_off_vows_to_t.html
The Taliban once again exposed for recruiting children to be suicide bombers and yet no one has anything to say about this. Too busy chopping heads off of people because some guy on the other side of the planet burned their holy book.
The saddest part is that Sufi Muslims, for the most part, are the most peaceful of the Sunni branch. Best keep killing them. ::)
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Why should be just accept them behaving like that? Thats fucking nonsense. So we should tip toe around life based upon every possible thing that might set them off into a murderous rage an them blame the person they claim set them off?
No way, screw these barbarians and savages. They dont get a "get out of murder free card" just because they follow the pedophile prophet - piss be upon him.
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hahaha...great pic 33.
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*Where did these deadly protests happen? Afghanistan which is occupied where Afghani civilians die daily and no one gives a shit about them, and when their book gets burned they are expected to remain calm and act civilized.
*Why and when do Muslims protest against America anyway? Only when America either invades them or burns their holy book.. those Muslim savages ::)
*Is there a difference by Islamic teachings and tribal/personal beliefs/acts? No, Amerifags think if an Arab pissed in a pool Islam tells him to.
I only wish to understand what the point is from burning a Quran. I can only think of fame cause if it was to practice freedom of choice then denying the holocaust even for the sake of denying will show what freedom of choice is all about.
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The point here is not the burning of the Koran. The point here is 8 people died with 2 getting their heads chopped off as a result of 13th century mentality. No one said they wre supposed to be calm....
Geez, talk about missing the point ::)
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I mean religious idiot burns a book half way around the world and these animals kill 8 people who had nothing to do with it?
And you are defending it? ::)
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The point here is not the burning of the Koran. The point here is 8 people died with 2 getting their heads chopped off as a result of 13th century mentality. No one said they wre supposed to be calm....
Geez, talk about missing the point ::)
It happened in Afghanistan, Afghanistan is ruled and forcefully orchestrated by Taliban.
Let me tell you something about Taliban. Taliban gets their money from selling and harvesting drugs, the taliban are to every ignorant American a bunch of "Isalmic extremist". Saudi Arabia under Islamic law beheads anyone that takes drugs inside the country or sells them inside.
What are your thoughts?
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It happened in Afghanistan, Afghanistan is ruled and forcefully orchestrated by Taliban.
Let me tell you something about Taliban. Taliban gets their money from selling and harvesting drugs, the taliban are to every ignorant American a bunch of "Isalmic extremist". Saudi Arabia under Islamic law beheads anyone that takes drugs inside the country or sells them inside.
What are your thoughts?
Thoughts about which?
It happening in Afghanistan?
Where the Taliban gets it's money from?
That You are insinuating the Taliban orchestrated the agry mob to get out of controlled and kill 8 people who had nothing to do with it?
Your assertion That ignorant Americans see the Taliban as Islamic extremists?
That Saidi Arabia has harsh drug laws?
The contrasting reactions to drugs between the Taliban and Saudi Arabia?
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Thoughts about which?
It happening in Afghanistan?
Where the Taliban gets it's money from?
That You are insinuating the Taliban orchestrated the agry mob to get out of controlled and kill 8 people who had nothing to do with it?
Your assertion That ignorant Americans see the Taliban as Islamic extremists?
That Saidi Arabia has harsh drug laws?
The contrasting reactions to drugs between the Taliban and Saudi Arabia?
Talibans (most) grow drugs or protect drug dealers for money, therefore they should be beheaded under Islamic law being under the "المفسدين في الارض" law which is punishable by death.
Meanwhile, Americans think they're extreme Muslims and believe that whatever they do represents Islam. See the irony of hating on Islam for actions that are done by people that Islams condemn greatly. It's sad.
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*Where did these deadly protests happen? Afghanistan which is occupied where Afghani civilians die daily and no one gives a shit about them, and when their book gets burned they are expected to remain calm and act civilized.
*Why and when do Muslims protest against America anyway? Only when America either invades them or burns their holy book.. those Muslim savages ::)
*Is there a difference by Islamic teachings and tribal/personal beliefs/acts? No, Amerifags think if an Arab pissed in a pool Islam tells him to.
I only wish to understand what the point is from burning a Quran. I can only think of fame cause if it was to practice freedom of choice then denying the holocaust even for the sake of denying will show what freedom of choice is all about.
Here comes Captain Saudi Arabia flying to the rescue of his religion. It's not surprising that you're justifying these murders as you're the same person who argued that draping women in a garbage bag is the right thing to do. ::)
I know Saudi Arabia is fond of burning bibles and desecrating crucifixes. In-fact, your religious police just arrested two "supposed" Christians that were praying in their home. Yet you don't see Christians running around chopping heads off innocent people.
Talibans (most) grow drugs or protect drug dealers for money, therefore they should be beheaded under Islamic law being under the "المفسدين في الارض" law which is punishable by death.
Meanwhile, Americans think they're extreme Muslims and believe that whatever they do represents Islam. See the irony of hating on Islam for actions that are done by people that Islams condemn greatly. It's sad.
Muslims acting like hypocrites? Tell us something we don't know.
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I could almost hear the timer..... ;D
The problem is that it's a 13th century religion that people actually follow.
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Maybe they Aren't civilized.
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Here comes Captain Saudi Arabia flying to the rescue of his religion. It's not surprising that you're justifying these murders as you're the same person who argued that draping women in a garbage bag is the right thing to do. ::)
I know Saudi Arabia is fond of burning bibles and desecrating crucifixes. In-fact, your religious police just arrested two "supposed" Christians that were praying in their home. Yet you don't see Christians running around chopping heads off innocent people.
Muslims acting like hypocrites? Tell us something we don't know.
::) ::) Saudis NEVER burned a bible, get your facts right. The thing is you're a bit on the idiotically biased side, you never want to be corrected and never admit to being wrong so there's no point arguing with you.
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your whole idea is that they arent religious extremist b/c they go against the law with dealing with drugs ksa.
why do you think they beheaded those ppl though?
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Religion extremists are people that stick by every teaching and then even go over board. Talibans aren't even following the basics let alone being extreme. Their extremism is tribal/cultural influenced and that's where the difference is. Sadly, whenever they do anything the religion is blamed.
The beheading incident is very wrong and horrible, no doubt about that. Why they beheaded them in my opinion is to vent their frustration, they probably wanted to punish the westerners and the UN folks were the only people they can reach.
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Religion extremists are people that stick by every teaching and then even go over board. Talibans aren't even following the basics let alone being extreme. Their extremism is tribal/cultural influenced and that's where the difference is. Sadly, whenever they do anything the religion is blamed.
The beheading incident is very wrong and horrible, no doubt about that. Why they beheaded them in my opinion is to vent their frustration, they probably wanted to punish the westerners and the UN folks were the only people they can reach.
LOL do you not understand that by going over board they arent following the dogma of the religion?
do you not understand that this is a version of going overboard?
punish the westerners for what ksa?
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It happened in Afghanistan, Afghanistan is ruled and forcefully orchestrated by Taliban.
Let me tell you something about Taliban. Taliban gets their money from selling and harvesting drugs, the taliban are to every ignorant American a bunch of "Isalmic extremist". Saudi Arabia under Islamic law beheads anyone that takes drugs inside the country or sells them inside.
What are your thoughts?
Did you give your wife her morning beating moron? ::)
So all of the media reports about Saudi's burning bibles were all lies? No truth whatsoever? Not even a kernal of honesty in any of the articles?
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LOL do you not understand that by going over board they arent following the dogma of the religion?
do you not understand that this is a version of going overboard?
punish the westerners for what ksa?
I don't understand your point. Going over board is AL-Qaeda. Going no where near the religion is Taliban.
They hate the western world (evidently) and want to punish them for the cartoons/occupation etc, everything is a build up. Irrational and ignorant masses will do more if they can.
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Did you give your wife her morning beating moron? ::)
So all of the media reports about Saudi's burning bibles were all lies? No truth whatsoever? Not even a kernal of honesty in any of the articles?
Saudis don't have bibles anyway, it's not allowed to enter the country... Saudis never burned bibles, show me a picture or a clip, just one I dare you.
Did you wish your wife good luck this morning when she went to shoot a porno with Lexington steel? ::)
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Why arnt bibles allowed in the country?
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Why arnt bibles allowed in the country?
No idea. A Christian or any non-Muslim can get it in but a Muslim can't.
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Saudis don't have bibles anyway, it's not allowed to enter the country... Saudis never burned bibles, show me a picture or a clip, just one I dare you.
Did you wish your wife good luck this morning when she went to shoot a porno with Lexington steel? ::)
I don't have a picture or clip of these Afghans beheading people. Guess that never happened either. ::)
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I don't understand your point. Going over board is AL-Qaeda. Going no where near the religion is Taliban.
They hate the western world (evidently) and want to punish them for the cartoons/occupation etc, everything is a build up. Irrational and ignorant masses will do more if they can.
correct sir, and the reason they dont like the cartoons etc?
is b/c they feel it is offensive to their religion, making the actions they commit as a result a part of their religious extremism...
you seem to want to take the islamic religion out of the equation in actions such as the beheading of these ppl...
FACT OF THE MATTER is it plays a very big role in it...now whether they are practicing true islam is one thing but they are abiding by their version of islam, which is why it is called religious EXTREMISM.
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The point here is not the burning of the Koran. The point here is 8 people died with 2 getting their heads chopped off as a result of 13th century mentality. No one said they wre supposed to be calm....
Geez, talk about missing the point ::)
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I don't have a picture or clip of these Afghans beheading people. Guess that never happened either. ::)
You'll find tons on the internet, bottom line is that you're a moron and your statement was false. Rolling eyes won't help.
correct sir, and the reason they dont like the cartoons etc?
is b/c they feel it is offensive to their religion, making the actions they commit as a result a part of their religious extremism...
you seem to want to take the islamic religion out of the equation in actions such as the beheading of these ppl...
FACT OF THE MATTER is it plays a very big role in it...now whether they are practicing true islam is one thing but they are abiding by their version of islam, which is why it is called religious EXTREMISM.
I feel it's offensive too, I would be offended even if someone ever made fun of my father. The whole thing is stupid. Your side burns the Quran or draws cartoons and goes mad as to why we get offended. It's like your own neigbour drawing your wife naked and showing it to you then getting mad cause you got offended.
I agree with the underlined.
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They didn't just get offended they murdered people, fucking animals.
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Saudis don't have bibles anyway, it's not allowed to enter the country
Saudi Arabia just showed us the way to stop all of the problems that exist in the world. Bar Muslims from leaving their rat infested toilet countries and from spreading the word of "Allah" and his sewage customs, ban the importation of the Islamic "bible"-- an incoherent rant by a bandit pedophile murderer; Then, when one of these inbred animals burns an American flag, bible, etc. we can point to American moral superiority.
After all, we wouldn't burn the Koran anymore. In addition, there would be no more Islamophobia. And anyway, Muslims and the Koran wouldn't even be allowed into my country.
If every civilized country followed this method and the environmentalist terrorists were put out to pasture so America could use its own natural resources instead of giving these tent rats our money so that they can kill us, the entire Muslim world would go from violent, dark, backward and threatening-- to violent, dark, backward and irrelevant.
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You'll find tons on the internet, bottom line is that you're a moron and your statement was false. Rolling eyes won't help.
I feel it's offensive too, I would be offended even if someone ever made fun of my father. The whole thing is stupid. Your side burns the Quran or draws cartoons and goes mad as to why we get offended. It's like your own neigbour drawing your wife naked and showing it to you then getting mad cause you got offended.
I agree with the underlined.
This response just shows what a backward animal you are. So if someone made fun of your father, you feel that the acceptable response is to chop their head off and post the video on the internet? What you fail to comprehend is that animals such as yourself have every right to be offended. What you do not have the right to do is kill innocent people because you are too stupid and immature to deal with your "feelings" being hurt.
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Not all animals are muslims. But most muslims are animals.
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Not all animals are muslims. But most muslims are animals.
Racist post reported.
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Religion extremists are people that stick by every teaching and then even go over board. Talibans aren't even following the basics let alone being extreme. Their extremism is tribal/cultural influenced and that's where the difference is. Sadly, whenever they do anything the religion is blamed.
The beheading incident is very wrong and horrible, no doubt about that. Why they beheaded them in my opinion is to vent their frustration, they probably wanted to punish the westerners and the UN folks were the only people they can reach.
It has nothing to do with religion?
So if you burn a telephone book they would behead you as well ???
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Not all animals are muslims. But most muslims are animals.
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correct sir, and the reason they dont like the cartoons etc?
is b/c they feel it is offensive to their religion, making the actions they commit as a result a part of their religious extremism...
you seem to want to take the islamic religion out of the equation in actions such as the beheading of these ppl...
FACT OF THE MATTER is it plays a very big role in it...now whether they are practicing true islam is one thing but they are abiding by their version of islam, which is why it is called religious EXTREMISM.
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You'll find tons on the internet, bottom line is that you're a moron and your statement was false. Rolling eyes won't help.
I feel it's offensive too, I would be offended even if someone ever made fun of my father. The whole thing is stupid. Your side burns the Quran or draws cartoons and goes mad as to why we get offended. It's like your own neigbour drawing your wife naked and showing it to you then getting mad cause you got offended.
I agree with the underlined.
The difference would be that any civilized individual is not going to kill someone over a cartoon when they get offended. Give me a fucking break, rioting and killing people over a cartoon or burning a book? Tell you what next time I see someone burning a US flag in the ME, I'm going to get really offended, then I'm going to get a bunch of other people all riled up. Then maybe we can go looking for muslims to punish because some assclown 4000 miles away burned a US flag ::) Makes about as much sense as what the fucked heads in Afghanistan did.
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The difference would be that any civilized individual is not going to kill someone over a cartoon when they get offended. Give me a fucking break, rioting and killing people over a cartoon or burning a book? Tell you what next time I see someone burning a US flag in the ME, I'm going to get really offended, then I'm going to get a bunch of other people all riled up. Then maybe we can go looking for muslims to punish because some assclown 4000 miles away burned a US flag ::) Makes about as much sense as what the fucked heads in Afghanistan did.
agreed 100%
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This response just shows what a backward animal you are. So if someone made fun of your father, you feel that the acceptable response is to chop their head off and post the video on the internet? What you fail to comprehend is that animals such as yourself have every right to be offended. What you do not have the right to do is kill innocent people because you are too stupid and immature to deal with your "feelings" being hurt.
When did I say that me getting offended will have any consequences or an aftermath, LOL you must be a moron as well. There's a difference between what I say and what you want me to say.
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The difference would be that any civilized individual is not going to kill someone over a cartoon when they get offended. Give me a fucking break, rioting and killing people over a cartoon or burning a book? Tell you what next time I see someone burning a US flag in the ME, I'm going to get really offended, then I'm going to get a bunch of other people all riled up. Then maybe we can go looking for muslims to punish because some assclown 4000 miles away burned a US flag ::) Makes about as much sense as what the fucked heads in Afghanistan did.
Again am I not allowed to get offended or what? ::)
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Again am I not allowed to get offended or what? ::)
You can get offended as you want, the point that you think its OK to riot and kill people, well fuck off.
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What's idiotic is trying to defend the murder of innocent people due to someone burning a book 3000 miles away by saying:
Your side burns the Quran or draws cartoons and goes mad as to why we get offended.
No one is mad that they (or you) are offended. ::)
We are mad because they acted like animals and murdered innocent people because of it.
My hope is, now that the text is big you will get it. ::)
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You can get offended as you want, the point that you think its OK to riot and kill people, well fuck off.
No, when did I say that?
What's idiotic is trying to defend the murder of innocent people due to someone burning a book 3000 miles away by saying:
No one is mad that they (or you) are offended. ::)
We are mad because they acted like animals and murdered innocent people because of it.
My hope is, now that the text is big you will get it. ::)
I felt bad too, and I did say that it was awfully wrong. Your point?
I was replying to who says that getting offended = going on riots and killing innocent people.
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No, when did I say that?
I felt bad too, and I did say that it was awfully wrong. Your point?
I was replying to who says that getting offended = going on riots and killing innocent people.
That's what getting offended means to extreme muslims: murdering people over cartoons, criticism, and book burning. You fucking people need get transported back in time to the 10th century where you belong.
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That's what getting offended means to extreme muslims: murdering people over cartoons, criticism, and book burning. You fucking people need get transported back in time to the 10th century where you belong.
Sow why offend them over and over again when you know the sad consequences?
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Sow why offend them over and over again when you know the sad consequences?
What kind of stupid fucking logic is that? Well we don't want to upset the heathens so we have to be careful what we say and do, well fuck that noise. How about this they continue their stupid shit, and every time a US flag is burned or a Bible desecrated we nuke a middle eastern city, sound fair?
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Sow why offend them over and over again when you know the sad consequences?
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Screw them - these are beasts and animals that deserve to be treated as such. Forget cages and shackles, they need to be jdammed, nukes, and carpeted bombed.
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What kind of stupid fucking logic is that? Well we don't want to upset the heathens so we have to be careful what we say and do, well fuck that noise. How about this they continue their stupid shit, and every time a US flag is burned or a Bible desecrated we nuke a middle eastern city, sound fair?
You compare a group of people burning the flag of the occupying country to a "burn a Quran day"?
And nuking a middle eastern city wouldn't be surprising given what has already been done.
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Sow why offend them over and over again when you know the sad consequences?
Yeah, that's how you become a co-dependent enabler.
How they interpret what other people believe and do is ON THEM, its their responsibility not anyone else's. Just as its their responsibility for murdering people because they over reacted.
that's some fucking twisted thinking ksa. YOU DON"T MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE over burning a book or cartoon or whatever.
They are uncivilized animal scum.
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Yeah, that's how you become a co-dependent enabler.
How they interpret what other people believe and do is ON THEM, its their responsibility not anyone else's. Just as its their responsibility for murdering people because they over reacted.
that's some fucking twisted thinking ksa. YOU DON"T MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE over burning a book or cartoon or whatever.
They are uncivilized animal scum.
Why do you insist to believe that I'm justifying the killing? I'm telling you that these people will do it again and again if you guys insist on making cartoons and burning the Quran. No innocent civilian should be killed under any circumstance but that's my opinion not theirs.
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Why do you insist to believe that I'm justifying the killing?
Here's why:
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*Where did these deadly protests happen? Afghanistan which is occupied where Afghani civilians die daily and no one gives a shit about them, and when their book gets burned they are expected to remain calm and act civilized.
Your side burns the Quran or draws cartoons and goes mad as to why we get offended. It's like your own neigbour drawing your wife naked and showing it to you then getting mad cause you got offended.
You are basically putting the blame on the book burner NOT the murderers which is a way of justifying it.
I'm telling you that these people will do it again and again if you guys insist on making cartoons and burning the Quran. No innocent civilian should be killed under any circumstance but that's my opinion not theirs.
Then those people should be put in prison.
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You compare a group of people burning the flag of the occupying country to a "burn a Quran day"?
And nuking a middle eastern city wouldn't be surprising given what has already been done.
Burn a Koran day consisted of one fucking Quran being burned by some assclown pastor in Florida. So 8 to 10 "westerners" = 1 Koran? And you fuckers have been burning flags decades before any ME country was occupied, whoops there goes that argument right our the window. What has already been done? When was the last time there was peace in the middle east? If its not Israel or the US, its Shiite vs Sunni face it you bitches just can't get along with anyone and are always pointing the finger at someone else. Don't take any of the blame its must be someone else's fault ::) 2 many decades of victim mentality I guess. And further more Saudi Arabia can fuck off with its Wahhabist bullshit.
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Burn a Koran day consisted of one fucking Quran being burned by some assclown pastor in Florida. So 8 to 10 "westerners" = 1 Koran? And you fuckers have been burning flags decades before any ME country was occupied, whoops there goes that argument right our the window. What has already been done? When was the last time there was peace in the middle east? If its not Israel or the US, its Shiite vs Sunni face it you bitches just can't get along with anyone and are always pointing the finger at someone else. Don't take any of the blame its must be someone else's fault ::) 2 many decades of victim mentality I guess. And further more Saudi Arabia can fuck off with its Wahhabist bullshit.
What's really funny is that "murder a random innocent Muslim for no reason day" and "Middle Eastern Suicide Bomber Day" is every single day, but the Muslim filth around the world isn't having any protests about that. It just goes to show you how years of inbreeding, malnutrition and stupidity coupled with being in the hot Sun for 16 hours a day can warp an entire civilization of people into ass backward barbarians. Muslims blowing up other Muslims as they pray? No biggie. Muslim men raping young girls and throwing acid in their faces for driving or going to school? Big deal. A non- descript, non-Muslim 5000 miles away burning a few pieces of paper? DEATH TO THE INFIDEL, DEATH TO ISRAEL, DEATH TO AMERICA, KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE! ALLAHU AKBAR!
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::) ::) Saudis NEVER burned a bible, get your facts right. The thing is you're a bit on the idiotically biased side, you never want to be corrected and never admit to being wrong so there's no point arguing with you.
Shouldn't the Saudis be free to burn as many Bibles and as many American flags as they want to? Shouldn't Americans be free to burn as many Korans and draw as many cartoons of the prophet Muhammad as they want to? It's not like either side is hurting or killing anyone by exercising these freedoms.
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Shouldn't the Saudis be free to burn as many Bibles and as many American flags as they want to? Shouldn't Americans be free to burn as many Korans and draw as many cartoons of the prophet Muhammad as they want to? It's not like either side is hurting or killing anyone by exercising these freedoms.
LOL are you new to the board?
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LOL are you new to the board?
I'm new to ksa_triceps' posts. Just interested to see where he stands on the freedom issue. I'm guessing he's into theocratic dictatorships, no?
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I'm new to ksa_triceps' posts. Just interested to see where he stands on the freedom issue. I'm guessing he's into theocratic dictatorships, no?
I thnk he said he wants women in capes and shit like that.
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Shouldn't the Saudis be free to burn as many Bibles and as many American flags as they want to? Shouldn't Americans be free to burn as many Korans and draw as many cartoons of the prophet Muhammad as they want to? It's not like either side is hurting or killing anyone by exercising these freedoms.
No one would be hurt if you burn their flag, even Muslims countries. The flag has no great significance.. It's idiotic to compare burning a flag to burning what we believe is the word of Allah. The problem is that the western world insists on burning Qurans to show freedom and what not, and if any of them even dares to deny the holocaust he'c find his sorry bum in jail in no time.
Burning Qurans upsets all Muslims, how they vent their frustration differs, most don't do anything and just shake their head, some will go do bad things. I find it weird for anyone to ask a Muslims not to get offended when his holy book is burned! he values this book greatly, why would anyone want to burn it for him? Idiots..
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No one says dont get offended, but is it really much asking to not behead people over it?
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I thnk he said he wants women in capes and shit like that.
Oh yeah, prove it ;)
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Oh yeah, prove it ;)
I remember some comment of yours about allowing women to wear clothes or some crap like that but preferrring thr hijab.
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No one would be hurt if you burn their flag, even Muslims countries. The flag has no great significance.. It's idiotic to compare burning a flag to burning what we believe is the word of Allah. The problem is that the western world insists on burning Qurans to show freedom and what not, and if any of them even dares to deny the holocaust he'c find his sorry bum in jail in no time.
Burning Qurans upsets all Muslims, how they vent their frustration differs, most don't do anything and just shake their head, some will go do bad things. I find it weird for anyone to ask a Muslims not to get offended when his holy book is burned! he values this book greatly, why would anyone want to burn it for him? Idiots..
Boofuckinghoo. It's a well-known fact that any bible coming into Saudi Arabia (e.g. you fly in with one) is usually shredded upon landing. The Saudi govt. has burned bibles, as well. This is documented on the internet. To top it off, your city of Mecca, which you antiquated Bedouin barbarians violently stole from the pagans and other religious groups that once lived there, won't even allow non-Muslims to step foot inside it. And you want to talk about intolerance. Ha! You exporters of terrorism have some gall condemning others for "intolerance" given that Islam is the most violent and intolerant ideology on the planet.
Saudi Arabia = land of terrorism financing and 7th century lifestyles.
Cheers for your "modesty police" that go around beating women for not wearing their garbage bag.
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No one would be hurt if you burn their flag, even Muslims countries. The flag has no great significance.. It's idiotic to compare burning a flag to burning what we believe is the word of Allah. The problem is that the western world insists on burning Qurans to show freedom and what not, and if any of them even dares to deny the holocaust he'c find his sorry bum in jail in no time.
Burning Qurans upsets all Muslims, how they vent their frustration differs, most don't do anything and just shake their head, some will go do bad things. I find it weird for anyone to ask a Muslims not to get offended when his holy book is burned! he values this book greatly, why would anyone want to burn it for him? Idiots..
What a bunch of horse shit, how fucking often does a Quran get burned? Fucking Muslims kill people over cartoons, over films, over books (Salmon Rushdie although he has been in hiding for the last 30 years because of a fatwa), doesn't fucking matter something always offends a muslim and a muslim is always ready to kill someone for it. You crazy fuckers kill your own family members, honor killing........ What a fucking joke, I don't give a hit if you are offended, you assholes need to learn to handle shit like a civilized human being, not some cromagnon
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Fuck islam. Fuck mohammed that murdering pedophile. So to the muslim cheese weenies that follow that turd, if your imam tells you to kill people of the book or anyone really, would you be okie dokie with that? Or would you have the testicular fortitude (i.e., the balls) to turn the shitbag over to real (not your fucking worthless sharia crap) LEOs?
Typical fucktard muslim males. Treat women like shit, fuck boys in the ass, kill innocent people and for what? Shit I wish there were a hell because that's where all of islam belongs. I'm atheist but if I wanted to follow a genuine man of peace it would be Jesus of Nazareth and not that ass clown mohammed. If Jesus did all the shitty things old mo did the only people that would follow him would be muslims and murderers. Kinda one and the same really.
If you believed in peace you would be either atheist, Buddist, Taoist or Christian. Certainly not muslim.
Fuck that noise. We need to clone Ronald Reagan. Those left hand ass wiping rump ranger fucktard muslims would tremble in fear at the sight of Ronaldus Magnus. Fuck islam.
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Hahahah, speaking of Saudi Arabia:
Saudi Arabia: Christian Man Jailed, Faces Death Penalty For Sharing His Faith With Muslims
(Barnabas)- An Eritrean Christian is facing the death penalty in Saudi Arabia after being arrested for sharing his faith with Muslims.
Mussie Eyob was detained by the authorities at a mosque in Saudi’s second largest city, Jeddah, on 12 February. He had gone there to meet and talk with local Muslims after speaking about Christianity at the Eritrean Embassy for three days. Eyob was arrested for preaching to Muslims, an offence that carries the death penalty in Saudi Arabia.
Eyob, who was initially assumed to have mental health problems, was examined by doctors, who confirmed that he is fit for trial and sentencing. He was then transferred to the notorious high-security Briman Prison. His family are very concerned for his welfare there.
They visited Eyob on 20 March and found that he had lost weight, though he was in relatively good spirits. He said that he is ready to die for his faith in Christ.
Eyob, who committed to follow Christ just over two years ago, felt compelled to share his faith with local Muslims, despite the danger.
Saudi Arabia is a strictly Islamic country that follows an extreme and puritanical version of Islam, Wahhabism. The country claims that the Quran is its constitution and that all its laws and regulations are promulgated in line with sharia, which prescribes the death penalty for converts from Islam. Consequently most converts keep their faith secret.
http://barnabasfund.org/Christian-evangelist-faces-death-penalty-in-Saudi-Arabia.html
And this guy has the balls to call us the intolerant people.
Also to note, these Afghanis are STILL rioting over this book burning. Coming up on a week straight now.
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BF - please remind me never to insult animals by placing them in the same sentence as muslims.
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BF - please remind me never to insult animals by placing them in the same sentence as muslims.
The saddest part is that ksa_triceps is one of those "moderate" Muslims the MSM and left love to fawn over. ::)
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This is going no where, Muslims are called backward now (which is true), a couple of centuries ago the roles were reversed. Nations always go through ups and downs.
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This is going no where, Muslims are called backward now (which is true), a couple of centuries ago the roles were reversed. Nations always go through ups and downs.
The roles were never reversed. The rest of the world just happened to be as bad as you are/were. However, unlike Islam and its practitioners, the rest of the world evolved.
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This is going no where, Muslims are called backward now (which is true), a couple of centuries ago the roles were reversed. Nations always go through ups and downs.
It's been more than a couple of centuries since the arab world has led in anything remotely resembling science or culture. Fuck! A petri dish at the local high school has more culture than all of islam. And besides those bits of truth, we're not talking about a nation but rather a mindset, a fuck the world if they don't submit system of bullshit beliefs all based on a tome written by a madman. A fucking lunatic. A murderer and pedophile. Oh wait, old mo was so pure, so special, so uncommonly perfect that he was taken to "heaven" on the back of a flying version of "My Little Pony". Right...
If you had just a touch of intelligence you'd drop this islam shit like the turd it is. But then your brothers in shit would hunt you down for disavowing the Queeron and the profit mohammed. To become Christian is to be taken out by the family islam. The same holds true for becoming an atheist. Or anything other than a good little muslim. Fuck that noise.
Answer the question. If your imam (basically your version of a televangelist, i.e., a worthless sack of shit liar) tells you to kill for your faith, would you do so? I know of no genuine follower of Jesus that would do such a thing but followers of the profit mohammed just can't wait to take out innocents. All kinds of innocents.
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What's really funny is that "murder a random innocent Muslim for no reason day" and "Middle Eastern Suicide Bomber Day" is every single day, but the Muslim filth around the world isn't having any protests about that. It just goes to show you how years of inbreeding, malnutrition and stupidity coupled with being in the hot Sun for 16 hours a day can warp an entire civilization of people into ass backward barbarians. Muslims blowing up other Muslims as they pray? No biggie. Muslim men raping young girls and throwing acid in their faces for driving or going to school? Big deal. A non- descript, non-Muslim 5000 miles away burning a few pieces of paper? DEATH TO THE INFIDEL, DEATH TO ISRAEL, DEATH TO AMERICA, KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE! ALLAHU AKBAR!
You nailed it here
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Sow why offend them over and over again when you know the sad consequences?
why can't they act like civilized people and control themselves???.....and you haven't yet come out aand said that what they did is wrong....you are making excuses for them basically
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They can get offended all day! Everyone gets offended every now and then. But why cant they act as a grown person in a civil mannor and deal with it and get over it without violence?? I have a dog with more self control literally.
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why can't they act like civilized people and control themselves???.....and you haven't yet come out aand said that what they did is wrong....you are making excuses for them basically
I haven't said what they did was wrong eh? you must be kidding me!
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Answer the question. If your imam (basically your version of a televangelist, i.e., a worthless sack of shit liar) tells you to kill for your faith, would you do so? I know of no genuine follower of Jesus that would do such a thing but followers of the profit mohammed just can't wait to take out innocents. All kinds of innocents.
He can't order you to kill anyone. "Killing" is for law enforcement agencies just like anywhere else and not for normal civilians to handle.
The only situation where everyone is supposed to "kill" is when Jihad is called, and that happens when the country gets attacked and everyone is asked to defend it. Even Jihad has it's restrictions, did you know that a Muslim is not allowed to goto Jihad if his parents don't allow him to?
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They can get offended all day! Everyone gets offended every now and then. But why cant they act as a grown person in a civil mannor and deal with it and get over it without violence?? I have a dog with more self control literally.
99% of them have acted civil about it. You think if 1billion Muslims went mental eight UN civilians would die?
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I dont tHink the issue is about all Muslims in general. It's about the culture of radical Muslims. It needs to be brought out of the dark ages and transformed into the 21st century.
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No one would be hurt if you burn their flag, even Muslims countries. The flag has no great significance.. It's idiotic to compare burning a flag to burning what we believe is the word of Allah. The problem is that the western world insists on burning Qurans to show freedom and what not, and if any of them even dares to deny the holocaust he'c find his sorry bum in jail in no time.
Burning Qurans upsets all Muslims, how they vent their frustration differs, most don't do anything and just shake their head, some will go do bad things. I find it weird for anyone to ask a Muslims not to get offended when his holy book is burned! he values this book greatly, why would anyone want to burn it for him? Idiots..
Okay, forget the flag!
Shouldn't the Saudis be free to burn as many Bibles as they want to? Shouldn't Americans be free to burn as many Korans and draw as many cartoons of the prophet Muhammad as they want to? It's not like either side is hurting or killing anyone by exercising these freedoms.
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99% of them have acted civil about it. You think if 1billion Muslims went mental eight UN civilians would die?
Why do those 99% of civil Muslims not condemn the atrocities of those 1% radical Muslims?
There are outcries about the one preacher burning the one Koran, but little to none from "civil" Muslims about the atrocities of radical Muslims.
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99% of them have acted civil about it. You think if 1billion Muslims went mental eight UN civilians would die?
If 99% of muslims dont want that label then they should take more action against the ones giving them the label . No action is almost as bad as the bad actions.
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99% of them have acted civil about it. You think if 1billion Muslims went mental eight UN civilians would die?
you make a good point here but the problem is that there is a disturbing pattern of this behavior going on
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Where do we draw the line? Theo Van Gogh was stabbed in the street by a Muslim for having the gall to make a video critical of Islam's treatment of women. Was that his fault? According to those on the left, it was.
Piss on a statue of Christ = art
Burn a Koran = hate crime.
How about we piss on all religions and call it a masterpiece?
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How about we piss on all religions and call it a masterpiece?
You are already there, except for one more, Islam. Islam is the only religion that gets special rights and special treatment.
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Oh look, "moderate" Malaysia continues its descent into an Islamist state:
Malaysian Government: Non-Muslims Can Be Charged With Koran Abuse by Reciting it Unfavorably
KUALA LUMPUR, April 6 (Bernama) — The government can take action against people who abuse Quranic verses for certain interests and dispute all forms of worship by Muslims in this country.
Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Jamil Khir Baharom said this followed the special conference of the National Fatwa Council on Dec 3 last year to discuss issues including abuse of Quranic verses.
“The muzakarah agreed that non-Muslims who cite Quranic verses according to their own understanding without sincerity is an affront to the sanctity of al-Quran and can cause doubt and slander in society,” he told Dewan Rakyat Wednesday.
He was responding to a question from Datuk Ibrahim Ali (Independent-Pasir Mas) on whether the government intends to enact legislation so that non-Muslims did not dispute all forms of worship by Muslims like the ‘azan’ (call to prayer) and the Maulidur Rasul (Prophet Muhammad’s birthday) celebration.
Jamil said that any person who caused disharmony in society could be charged under Section 298 and 298A (1) of Penal Code (Revised) 1997.
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v5/newsindex.php?id=576913
But burning a Koran is bad! ::)
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Islamists Tell Pakistani Christian Man to “Convert or Die” After Florida Koran Burning
Mardan (Agenzia Fides) — “Convert or die”. Masih Gill, Christian from the city of Mardan, in the province of “Khyber Pakhtunkhwa” (Northern Pakistan), was threatened with these words by a group of Muslims with whom he had been speaking, after the recent episode of the burning of the Koran in the US. This event brought violent reactions in Pakistan (three churches attacked in a week) by Muslim extremists.
Local sources of say that Masih Gill simply defended his faith, saying that Christians respect all religions and do not nurture hostility towards anyone. The discussion then degenerated and the Muslims seriously threatened Gill. At the end of the fight, they also gave him intimidating notice that he would be incriminated for blasphemy.
Masih Gill, father, is now in hiding, and his family — thanks to the intervention of the Masihi Foundation who also defend Asia Bibi — will be transferred to a more secure place. The city of Mardan, in fact, is infested with radical Muslim groups which terrorise civilians, especially the religious minorities.
http://www.fides.org/aree/news/newsdet.php?idnews=28732&lan=eng
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Here's another example of Muslim "tolerance":
Confirmed: Islamist Sent Letter Attached to Bloody Pig’s Foot to Peter King, “Kiss My Black Muslim Ass, White Bitches Will Soon Be Naming Their Sons Mohammed”
(NY Post) — The threatening package containing a bloody pig’s foot sent to Rep. Pete King (R-LI) was as much a racist assault as it was religious hate mail, The Post has learned.
The rambling note accompanying the porcine parcel proclaimed that “white bitches” would soon be naming their sons Mohammed, said a Capitol Hill source.
The note contained anti-Semitic slurs, called the pig’s foot a “Jew foot,” taunted “kiss my black Muslim ass,” and said King — who is Catholic — was targeted because of hearings he held on the radicalization of Muslim Americans.
King, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, received numerous threats over the hearings and has been getting additional security.
The congressman’s office would not comment on the threatening package other than to say it was cooperating with the investigation and referred questions to the Capitol Police.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/pig_poke_rep_king_threat_racist_26m3EqGxJlMq27U8tA9ClO
But burn a Koran and it's the end of the world!!!!! Muslims = 24/7/365 victims. ::)
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I wonder if I behead someone over their trashing Palin, will they grant me a repreive like they do muslims and the koran?
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(http://i.imgur.com/4DMvS.jpg)
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I wonder if I behead someone over their trashing Palin, will they grant me a repreive like they do muslims and the koran?
At least she is a human being not some pages written by a pedofile hundreds of years ago