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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Rami on April 01, 2011, 10:17:51 PM
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to be involved in politics, study history and science, be calm and reflective , use no supplements and. yes, still have ein good physique that shall last and serve well throughout life
evolve and see past the ignis fatuus
that must be why it's so easy to be commander in chief too
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Sporadically means how often?
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I can train twice a week and maintain what I have.
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drugs eh?
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Sure. Eat minimal protein (under 100), a lot of carbs, workout couple days a week with some cardio here and there. no supplements no nothing.
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Sure. Eat minimal protein (under 100), a lot of carbs, workout couple days a week with some cardio here and there. no supplements no nothing.
A lot of carbs huh? You are a dumb sack of cow shit.
Carbs are good in the right amount.. maybe 300g per day with 150g protein. Excess carbs convert to fat u stupid tub of fromunda cheese.
Get aids and die you smelly cum cloth, I hate you and stop disrupting my threads with your stupid rehashed insults.
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This is achievable, but you cant have fast food. Have water with clean food and no bs food.
Not only will you be decent looking, but not turn to those working out 24/7 fags.
A test cycle here and there wont hurt either.
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A lot of carbs huh? You are a dumb sack of cow shit.
Carbs are good in the right amount.. maybe 300g per day with 150g protein. Excess carbs convert to fat u stupid tub of fromunda cheese.
Get aids and die you smelly cum cloth, I hate you and stop disrupting my threads with your stupid rehashed insults.
Yea for sure you know much more about fat convertion than me. from experience i guess.
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Sporadically means how often?
I mean short and different kind of trainings, cardio one day, deadlift another, shoulder another, and so forth, but pretty much train something almost everyday.
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This is logical way to go Rami.
Im a believer of this.
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you would still be building muscle
e.g.
I can train twice a week and maintain what I have.
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you would still be building muscle
e.g.
Fullbody routines I guess...
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true. eating the "bbing way" is complete nonsense and maintenance of muscle is very easy with training sporadical. thats why i think its hilarious some people here train twice a day, why would you
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true. eating the "bbing way" is complete nonsense and maintenance of muscle is very easy with training sporadical. thats why i think its hilarious some people here train twice a day, why would you
Because they lack confidence and they don't have a life.
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For health purposes, lower your protein intake and up your carbs not to the stupid numbers the fatlard "mahg" thinks (he knows shit about bbing, only to fuck pigs and carry his mom around on his back).
Anyway, calories will be basically the same 1grm protein=1grm carb=4 cals.
"You can always be thinner, look better"
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true. eating the "bbing way" is complete nonsense and maintenance of muscle is very easy with training sporadical. thats why i think its hilarious some people here train twice a day, why would you
The only thing that can be achieved through taking care of such minor details as advocated in the "bodybuilding lifestyle" is maybe getting to your genetic potential a little faster when you first start out. Most of the time this minor advantage is however eaten up entirely by screwing up an essential rule.
In the long run it means asolutely nothing, waste of time, energy, and joy of life.
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The only thing that can be achieved through taking care of such minor details as advocated in the "bodybuilding lifestyle" is maybe getting to your genetic potential a little faster when you first start out. Most of the time this minor advantage is however eaten up entirely by screwing up an essential rule.
In the long run it means asolutely nothing, waste of time, energy, and joy of life.
bingo
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Bodybuilding.. i don't know how to quit you.
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true. eating the "bbing way" is complete nonsense and maintenance of muscle is very easy with training sporadical. thats why i think its hilarious some people here train twice a day, why would you
eating the "bbing way" is only nessesary if you are on steroids. because your protein synthesis will be alot higher.
for a natural trainer 4 meals a day is fine. throw in a protein shake after a workout if you want.
why waste your life on training and forcefeeding anyways right. what's so funny about lifting weights up and down. face it it's fucking boring. ;D
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agree, havign muscles is nice but some forget theres more in life than forcefeeding and staying weekends at home to Growwww grrrrrrrrrrr
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Fullbody routines I guess...
Yes, workout takes no more than 45min not including warm ups.
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Yes, workout takes no more than 45min not including warm ups.
Im interested in trying fullbody workouts mainly for depleting myself before a high carb day..just experiment you know.
What would be a sample fullbody workout?
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warm ups are for pussies
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Im interested in trying fullbody workouts mainly for depleting myself before a high carb day..just experiment you know.
What would be a sample fullbody workout?
Might look something like this
Heavy BP (brd, rev bnd)
a1) Weighted Chins
a 2) Trap Bar Deads
a3) Rotation Chops
B1) Alt DB Incline
B2) Elevated Bulg spilt Squat
B3) Pull Throughs or GH raise
Close grip bench
Hammer curls
Not an exact but a basic template.
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This is achievable, but you cant have fast food. Have water with clean food and no bs food.
Not only will you be decent looking, but not turn to those working out 24/7 fags.
A test cycle here and there wont hurt either.
you can have anything you want,,
1. training should be 45 min or less and very intense ,,if you talk when you in gym then you are nto bodybuild but come for social activity,,
2. you can eat anything,,as said before ,,,you can wake up eat fuckin sugar pine apple,,bananas,,cereal anything you desire,,you can eat your first protien even 2 hour after waking up,,wont change a damn thing,, AS LONG AS YOU ARE ON DRUGS SUCH AS TRENBLONA ACE,,GH,,TESTOSTERONA MASTERONA ETC,,
3. the reason fellas are going to gym 2 time a day and many do it 5 times a week or 6 time a week is because....usually when you are hormonized and spend so much money on the stuff,,and look your best ,,and walk around 7-8% 200+ lb and look tight and wide and quality 30lb more than your weight,,and you fellas know exactly what sculpted look im talking about....usually when you look like that YOU WANNA SHOW IT OFF TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE,,AND WHERE DO YOU SHOW IT OFF BEST?? youg ot that right my friends,,you show it off best IN THE FREAKIN GYMNASIUM where all the whores are looking for weekly dates,,where all the perma bulkers walk around with their nonesense 18 inch chunky arms due to little dianabol they been taking for a while,,you go there to show off you are better! to show off you are a statue of a man they will never be ,,you go FOR ATTENTION ,,even if you compete you do the exact same thing,,you go to show you are the best and you utilized the hormones better than them ,,and ofcourse that you have a beach body to dream for,,, thts why people go to the gym a lot..thats the main reason
in reality you can go to gym 3-4 times a week and progress very well in bodybuild,,i do believe that when preping you need to be in gym 5 times a week for weight training due to the type of hormones you are on and the fact they make you absolitly invinsible if legit,,
gh15 approved
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x2, 3 upright rows a year and still shredded
How is your traps looking BDB? Are they drawing in top ten hoes?
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Might look something like this
Heavy BP (brd, rev bnd)
a1) Weighted Chins
a 2) Trap Bar Deads
a3) Rotation Chops
B1) Alt DB Incline
B2) Elevated Bulg spilt Squat
B3) Pull Throughs or GH raise
Close grip bench
Hammer curls
Not an exact but a basic template.
Thats ALOT of exercises for a fb routine.
especially with so many compound and unilateral movements.
how many days a week would u be fullbody training with routines like this?
looks like cns overload for sure.
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I posted up an ultra high res pic yesterday showing they are Dorianeque grainy.
I saw that man.
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Thats ALOT of exercises for a fb routine.
especially with so many compound and unilateral movements.
how many days a week would u be fullbody training with routines like this?
looks like cns overload for sure.
Heavy BP (brd, rev bnd)
a1) Weighted Chins
a 2) Trap Bar Deads
a3) Rotation Chops
B1) Alt DB Incline
B2) Elevated Bulg spilt Squat
B3) Pull Throughs or GH raise
Close grip bench
Hammer curls
Take this one step at a time and just don't form an opinion just by a glance. Study it. But here's the break down
Despite what some of the critics say about gaining strength, one of the quickest ways to get stronger is training each muscle group (by recruitment of multiple motor units, is to train each 3 times per week with a minimum of 2 times per week. This isn't theory it's fact. The way this particular routine is set up, it SHOULD keep the CNS excited through out the workout to help avoid injury. Now, lets take the first exercise, Heavy BP, this is the first exercise in the selection AFTER we roll, dynamic warm-up and med ball work.
Bench is listed as a single exercise because it's a power exercise, reps are kept from 5-3 or 3-1 if using chains or bands. Rest time is 2-3mins depending on how many are benching.
The second exercise are weighted chins (a supplemental) and third (trap bar) is a power exercise. Chins are 8-10 reps TB being power is 5-3 or 3-1. Third is a rotational core exercise. All three are done consecutively. After the 3rd exercise, there is a 90-120sec rest. NOW, by the time the second or third round is started, the rest time between the time they start chins and get back to them is approx 3-3.5min rest. Sometimes (or most of the time I take out the rotational core work because we already hit it in the beginning. If you look at it, there are TWO main lifts that are indicator lifts when we test.
The second part of the routine are supplemental exercises and yes, unilateral, upper and lower. There HAS to be unilateral exercises in EVERY routine be it athletic or bodybuilding. There has to equal strength on either side, for bodybuilding, to avoid injury for athletes to avoid injury, especially when running, we DO NOT run on two legs, we run one leg at a time. GH raise or pull troughs, as you know is posterior chain, the most important thing to keep strong for ANY athlete to help keep injury's down (hamstring, knee, etc)
Hammer curls are used mainly to help keep elbows healthy and for on field intimidation ;D
Close grip bench, of course for explosiveness and as supplemental to the BP.
*Some sort of posterior chain exercise is done in each workout, GH raise, RDL, 1RDL or pull troughs, leg curls are NEVER done.
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Heavy BP (brd, rev bnd)
a1) Weighted Chins
a 2) Trap Bar Deads
a3) Rotation Chops
B1) Alt DB Incline
B2) Elevated Bulg spilt Squat
B3) Pull Throughs or GH raise
Close grip bench
Hammer curls
Take this one step at a time and just don't form an opinion just by a glance. Study it. But here's the break down
Despite what some of the critics say about gaining strength, one of the quickest ways to get stronger is training each muscle group (by recruitment of multiple motor units, is to train each 3 times per week with a minimum of 2 times per week. This isn't theory it's fact. The way this particular routine is set up, it SHOULD keep the CNS excited through out the workout to help avoid injury. Now, lets take the first exercise, Heavy BP, this is the first exercise in the selection AFTER we roll, dynamic warm-up and med ball work.
Bench is listed as a single exercise because it's a power exercise, reps are kept from 5-3 or 3-1 if using chains or bands. Rest time is 2-3mins depending on how many are benching.
The second exercise are weighted chins (a supplemental) and third (trap bar) is a power exercise. Chins are 8-10 reps TB being power is 5-3 or 3-1. Third is a rotational core exercise. All three are done consecutively. After the 3rd exercise, there is a 90-120sec rest. NOW, by the time the second or third round is started, the rest time between the time they start chins and get back to them is approx 3-3.5min rest. Sometimes (or most of the time I take out the rotational core work because we already hit it in the beginning. If you look at it, there are TWO main lifts that are indicator lifts when we test.
The second part of the routine are supplemental exercises and yes, unilateral, upper and lower. There HAS to be unilateral exercises in EVERY routine be it athletic or bodybuilding. There has to equal strength on either side, for bodybuilding, to avoid injury for athletes to avoid injury, especially when running, we DO NOT run on two legs, we run one leg at a time. GH raise or pull troughs, as you know is posterior chain, the most important thing to keep strong for ANY athlete to help keep injury's down (hamstring, knee, etc)
Hammer curls are used mainly to help keep elbows healthy and for on field intimidation ;D
Close grip bench, of course for explosiveness and as supplemental to the BP.
*Some sort of posterior chain exercise is done in each workout, GH raise, RDL, 1RDL or pull troughs, leg curls are NEVER done.
What are you doing the other 2 days a week?
The same routine or a different one?
How about rep ranges and volume, does it stay the same for each workout of the week or does it differ.
All of what you said is fine. But in one workout thats a bit too much.
Theres no way any type of intensity can be kept thru that workout. If your training hard your finished after the bench press and the first tri set. Especially if your natural.
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excellent posts by god and wavelength!
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Dynamic Warm-up
Box Squats
A1) DB Floor Press or Palms in DB bench
A2) Reverse Lunge or step ups with olympic bar
B1) Chest supported DB Row (single arm)
B2) 1RDL
B3) 1 Arm LM Press
This would be a day 2 sample.
One power lift (another indicator lift)
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What are you doing the other 2 days a week?
The same routine or a different one?
How about rep ranges and volume, does it stay the same for each workout of the week or does it differ.
All of what you said is fine. But in one workout thats a bit too much.
Theres no way any type of intensity can be kept thru that workout. If your training hard your finished after the bench press and the first tri set. Especially if your natural.
It's full body :-\
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Dynamic Warm-up
Box Squats
A1) DB Floor Press or Palms in DB bench
A2) Reverse Lunge or step ups with olympic bar
B1) Chest supported DB Row (single arm)
B2) 1RDL
B3) 1 Arm LM Press
This would be a day 2 sample.
One power lift (another indicator lift)
Thats fine. Thats about the most id do on a full body routine in a single training session.
But still, that first day is way too much.
I prefer a 4 day upper/lower split over a fullbody split tho. But if you have to train 3 days a week I like a full/upper/lower split more then 3 days of fullbody training. Much better recovery. And each bodypart is still hit 2wice a week but with my intensity and better recovery.
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What are you doing the other 2 days a week?
The same routine or a different one?
How about rep ranges and volume, does it stay the same for each workout of the week or does it differ.
All of what you said is fine. But in one workout thats a bit too much.
Theres no way any type of intensity can be kept thru that workout. If your training hard your finished after the bench press and the first tri set. Especially if your natural.
This is similar team routines we use for HS, it's not meant to easy it's also not meant for someone who isn't use to this type of intensity. They get done in less than an hour (give or take) 1st day's and third days we start with O-lifts on the second day, plyos.
*This would be harder for someone who is NOT natural
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It's full body :-\
bro, its 9 exercises on a fullbody workout. And your including chains,bands,heavy deads,rotational work,unilateral upper and lower body work, tri sets!
thats a whole lot for one person to do in one workout.
fullbody training or not that has to be condensed. thats too much.
your throwing everything in your playbook all in one workout. thats like everytime you have sex having oral,vaginal,anal,using toys,bringing in another girl and giving facials every single time. of course you woudnt do that and with training its the same thing.
Especially if your doing 3 fullbody sessions per week there is no need for 9 exercises. A fullbody workout doesnt mean you have to work each bodypart individually in it.
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This is similar team routines we use for HS, it's not meant to easy it's also not meant for someone who isn't use to this type of intensity. They get done in less than an hour (give or take) 1st day's and third days we start with O-lifts on the second day, plyos.
*This would be harder for someone who is NOT natural
Theres no way you have anything left for hammer curls and cgb after the routine you posted coach. So why do them if you cant give them all out effort?
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Theres no way you have anything left for hammer curls and cgb after the routine you posted coach. So why do them if you cant give them all out effort?
Absolutely there is. I see what you're saying, you're looking CNS OL, I'm looking keeping the CNS excited but also having the muscle group trained resting for 3-4 min between rounds. Volume is kept low on main lifts on supplemental a bit higher. Despite you thinking it's CNS OL, mechanics are not sacrificed. There are 2 exercises per body part for upper and lower. Three rounds, Four max on the first part of the workout, three rounds MAX on the second part.
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Absolutely there is. I see what you're saying, you're looking CNS OL, I'm looking keeping the CNS excited but also having the muscle group trained resting for 3-4 min between rounds. Volume is kept low on main lifts on supplemental a bit higher. Despite you thinking it's CNS OL, mechanics are not sacrificed. There are 2 exercises per body part for upper and lower. Three rounds, Four max on the first part of the workout, three rounds MAX on the second part.
If it works then it works.
I cant argue with results.
And for the most part I dont think cns overload occurs too often. Most people dont train hard, heavy, or intense enough for that to happen. Im mostly talking about general fatigue.
To me cns overload is like overtraining. Its an overused cop out for people who dont eat enough or train smart enough or are just plain lazy.
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Yes, I agree with that. As a season gets closer we eliminate a third day in the gym and replace it with strongman training.
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Yes, I agree with that. As a season gets closer we eliminate a third day in the gym and replace it with strongman training.
Sounds like fun.
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Might look something like this
Heavy BP (brd, rev bnd)
a1) Weighted Chins
a 2) Trap Bar Deads
a3) Rotation Chops
B1) Alt DB Incline
B2) Elevated Bulg spilt Squat
B3) Pull Throughs or GH raise
Close grip bench
Hammer curls
Not an exact but a basic template.
I was thinking of choosing 2-3 exercises for each bpart and do them like supersets in a workout. For example chest with back, bis with tris, shoulders with traps and some leg work.
Almost like a "depletion workout" competitors do a week before the contest you know.
What do you think?
Of course I wont stick to it for many days. Im going to do it for a workout just to experiment.