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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: MindSpin on April 04, 2011, 07:12:26 AM
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http://videos.mmaweekly.com/videos/joe-rogan-on-fedor/
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pretty sick and tired of hearing the name Fedor for now...
wake me up when he gets a "W' .
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pretty sick and tired of hearing the name Fedor for now...
wake me up when he gets a "W' .
that's going to be a long nap....
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http://videos.mmaweekly.com/videos/joe-rogan-on-fedor/
So basically, one of your heroes just agreed with me that the reason Fedor is losing is because he is getting vastly outweighted by these guys and not because he is inferior in skills. Nice. Having Mr.UFC agree with me will shut you and your gimmick once and for all.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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So basically, one of your heroes just agreed with me that the reason Fedor is losing is because he is getting vastly outweighted by these guys and not because he is inferior in skills. Nice. Having Mr.UFC agree with me will shut you and your gimmick once and for all.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Not what Rogan said whatsoever. He said you can't roll in being FAT with a BELLY like Fedor and face these bigger monsters.
FYI...Cain and Dos Santos are 'small' HW's as well....but they actually have muscle to fill their frame.
Point: Can't be UNDERSIZED AS WELL AS FAT.
Roy Nelson does OK, but he is a fat 265, bot a fat 230-240.
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Not what Rogan said whatsoever. He said you can't roll in being FAT with a BELLY like Fedor and face these bigger monsters.
FYI...Cain and Dos Santos are 'small' HW's as well....but they actually have muscle to fill their frame.
Point: Can't be UNDERSIZED AS WELL AS FAT.
Roy Nelson does OK, but he is a fat 265, bot a fat 230-240.
No, he said you cannot fight opponents that carry a lot more lean body mass than you do. This is what is meant by Fedor being a fat 225 lbs compared to these guys who are a lean 290 lbs like Silva. He said that Fedor is not even a light-heavyweight, but a middleweight. He said Fedor should compete at 185 lbs. And Cain and JDS are a lean 245 lbs compared to Fedor's fat 225 lbs. You cannot compare them. When you adjust for bodyfat, both Cain as well as JDS have 40 lean pounds Fedor.
Here is how I saw the Fedor vs Silva fight: Fedor went 1-1 on 2 rounds against a guy who had 65 lbs on him, much greater reach and is 5 years younger, and lost due to a doctor stoppage and not because he was KOd. Would Fedor have lost if Silva were his size or even 20 lbs heavier? No. I think Fedor is incredible, whilst you think he sucks. To me, that is fine. Frankly, I am sick of debating Fedor with you because you are too biased to give credit to the guy. Good bye.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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No, he said you cannot fight opponents that carry a lot more lean body mass than you do. This is what is meant by Fedor being a fat 225 lbs compared to these guys who are a lean 290 lbs like Silva. He said that Fedor is not even a light-heavyweight, but a middleweight. He said Fedor should compete at 185 lbs. And Cain and JDS are a lean 245 lbs compared to Fedor's fat 225 lbs. You cannot compare them. When you adjust for bodyfat, both Cain as well as JDS have 40 lean pounds Fedor.
Here is how I saw the Fedor vs Silva fight: Fedor went 1-1 on 2 rounds against a guy who had 65 lbs on him, much greater reach and is 5 years younger, and lost due to a doctor stoppage and not because he was KOd. Would Fedor have lost if Silva were his size or even 20 lbs heavier? No. I think Fedor is incredible, whilst you think he sucks. To me, that is fine. Frankly, I am sick of debating Fedor with you because you are too biased to give credit to the guy. Good bye.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I think you misunderstood what I wrote in my last post. I agree with you and Rogan. Fedor is FAT for sure. JDS and Cain are not fat and carry more LBM at HW which allows them to be competitive.
If Fedor could actually go on a diet, he may or may not be competitive. A lot of variables to a weight cut. Think about it, there are guys a LW and WW with more LBM(muscle) than Fedor a HW. That's insane.
And lets not start getting crazy here...Bigfoot, although a big HW, is not top of the talent pool by any means.
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StoolPshr/Minspin why don't you permanently sticky a Fedor thread on the main MMA board? Seeing you create thread after thread about the same shit is pretty annoying. It would definitely give you TUF newbs and Fight Finder Fanatics a good place to go and cry and it will clean the repetitive crap off the board as well.
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So basically, one of your heroes just agreed with me that the reason Fedor is losing is because he is getting vastly outweighted by these guys and not because he is inferior in skills. Nice. Having Mr.UFC agree with me will shut you and your gimmick once and for all.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
no size doesn't make a difference.. ::)
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Lets see anybody else fight people that much bigger than him. Everyone else Fedors size is scared shitless to fight at their natural weight.
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Lets see anybody else fight people that much bigger than him. Everyone else Fedors size is scared shitless to fight at their natural weight.
Cain fought Brock.
JDS fought Roy Nelson.
There are many others.
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StoolPshr/Minspin why don't you permanently sticky a Fedor thread on the main MMA board? Seeing you create thread after thread about the same shit is pretty annoying. It would definitely give you TUF newbs and Fight Finder Fanatics a good place to go and cry and it will clean the repetitive crap off the board as well.
You have a couple options here Chumpbox....
1. Start your own threads with the topics of your choice.
2. Ignore the threads that you don't want to read.
Simple really. Most children learn these skills in preschool.
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Cain fought Brock.
JDS fought Roy Nelson.
There are many others.
Fedor is shorter, smaller and has never had a reach advantage when he fought bigger guys. You know this... ???
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Fedor never had a problem beating larger men when they were cans like Hong man Choi. Now that he is fighting slightly better opposition, he has been exposed. I agree with Rogan. If Fedor wants to be competitive today, he can no longer get by fighting heavy weight cans. He's going to have to drop to 205 or even 185 to stand a chance. Even then, I don't think he has the speed.
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Fedor never had a problem beating larger men when they were cans like Hong man Choi. Now that he is fighting slightly better opposition, he has been exposed. I agree with Rogan. If Fedor wants to be competitive today, he can no longer get by fighting heavy weight cans. He's going to have to drop to 205 or even 185 to stand a chance. Even then, I don't think he has the speed.
Lets see Anderson beat HMC in the first round.
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Lets see Anderson beat HMC in the first round.
Come on here...HMC was fighting Canseco. If that doesn't say enough, I don't know what to tell you.
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Fedor never had a problem beating larger men when they were cans like Hong man Choi. Now that he is fighting slightly better opposition, he has been exposed. I agree with Rogan. If Fedor wants to be competitive today, he can no longer get by fighting heavy weight cans. He's going to have to drop to 205 or even 185 to stand a chance. Even then, I don't think he has the speed.
Lol, dude, the only way for you to defeat opponents that are 50+ lbs heavier than you is if they are either completely unskilled or very slow/uncoordinated. You make it seem like there are fighters out there who defeat opponents who outweight them by 50+ lbs and are highly skilled, when there aren't any. You also make it seem like it's easy to defeat opponents who have 65 lean lbs on you, much greater reach and who are 5 years younger and into their primes. Silva is not even close to being as good as Fedor. He just layed on top of Fedor with his ridiculous 130 kg(same weight as Ronnie in the off-season) and pounded Fedor's face in. Fedor simply didn't have the strength to remove the 130 kg weight from off him, just like GSP wouldn't have the strength to remove Cain from off him if they fought - same 65 lbs weight difference. Yet, Fedor still held his own and went 1-1 on 2 rounds and lost due to a doctor's stoppage. If they were the same weight, or even if Silva enjoyed a 20 lbs weight advantage over him, Fedor would have destroyed him. Silva only won due to the ridiculous weight advantage of 65 lbs, or 4 weight classes!!!!!!!!!! Do you really think that Silva would have won if they were the same size or even if Silva were slightly bigger? C'mon...even with the reach and gigantic weight advantage, Fedor still won one of two rounds according to the judges cards. At the same weight, Fedor would have destroyed him. Lol.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Fact is, any other fighter Fedor's size wouldn't have made it through half of his opponents. Like I said, Anderson Silva would not beat HMC in the first round, if at all. Nobody does or did what Fedor did.
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Fact is, any other fighter Fedor's size wouldn't have made it through half of his opponents. Like I said, Anderson Silva would not beat HMC in the first round, if at all. Nobody does or did what Fedor did.
And that is the most sensible thing anyones said in this thread
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Fact is, any other fighter Fedor's size wouldn't have made it through half of his opponents. Like I said, Anderson Silva would not beat HMC in the first round, if at all. Nobody does or did what Fedor did.
You can't seriously be telling me that Anderson Silva couldn't beat Hong Man Choi are you? His last victory was over Jose Canseco. HMC is a talentless freakshow fighter.
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You have a couple options here Chumpbox....
1. Start your own threads with the topics of your choice.
2. Ignore the threads that you don't want to read.
Simple really. Most children learn these skills in preschool.
I think I'll go with 3. Continue to reply to your dumb ass anti everything not
ufc and anti fedor comments. You literally bring nothing else
to the table
at all, with the exception of the
occasional "so and so can beat so and
so because of his record". I will start
posting more topics though, this place
is needs a break from the usual two
topic spam that you pollute this board with.
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In all seriousness, I would welcome the posting of more topics. Have at it.
You talk of me hating anything that isn't the UFC, but that's a rather silly statement these days don't you think?
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You can't seriously be telling me that Anderson Silva couldn't beat Hong Man Choi are you? His last victory was over Jose Canseco. HMC is a talentless freakshow fighter.
Ok then, take me through the fight..
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Ok then, take me through the fight..
Anderson by whatever way he wants RD.1.
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Lol hell no
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Hong Man Choi could give Anderson Silva a concussion by just holding him, taking him to the ground and then doing very basic ground-and-pound. Do you really think there is anything that a 185 lbs fighter can do against a 360 lbs one? It would be one thing if Anderson could submit Choi, but Choi is no 185 lbs Chael Sonnen. Even using leverage, Anderson wouldn't be able to submit him. In the stand-up, Anderson wouldn't have the power to do anything to Choi. It would be like a 6 year-old girl hitting a grown man. Granted, Choi wouldn't have the speed and agility to lend any punches on Silva, but he would just clinch with him, take him to the ground and lay on top of him with his 360 lbs untiil Anderson is almost dead from hypoxia. If he wanted to finish the fight sooner, a basic ground and pound with his huge fists and strength would end having Silva brain-damaged for life if the judge didn't stop the fight soon. That is 185 lbs vs 360 lbs, bra. That is the same difference in strength and power as that between a grown man and a little girl. Lmao...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Hong Man Choi could give Anderson Silva a concussion by just holding him, taking him to the ground and then doing very basic ground-and-pound. Do you really think there is anything that a 185 lbs fighter can do against a 360 lbs one? It would be one thing if Anderson could submit Choi, but Choi is no 185 lbs Chael Sonnen. Even using leverage, Anderson wouldn't be able to submit him. In the stand-up, Anderson wouldn't have the power to do anything to Choi. It would be like a 6 year-old girl hitting a grown man. Granted, Choi wouldn't have the speed and agility to lend any punches on Silva, but he would just clinch with him, take him to the ground and lay on top of him with his 360 lbs untiil Anderson is almost dead from hypoxia. If he wanted to finish the fight sooner, a basic ground and pound with his huge fists and strength would end having Silva brain-damaged for life if the judge didn't stop the fight soon. That is 185 lbs vs 360 lbs, bra. That is the same difference in strength and power as that between a grown man and a little girl. Lmao...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Good post. Funny how all of Mindspins gimmicks don't seem to think size makes any difference at all lol. The UFC's unstoppable Anderson Silva wouldn't look so unstoppable against CroCop, Semmy Schilt, Arlovski, Hunt, Silvia or even Heath Herring. Size makes such a huge difference, look what happened when Fedor fought Lindland. It took little effort for Fedor to tie him into a pretzel and submit him once in hit the ground lol.
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Good post. Funny how all of Mindspins gimmicks don't seem to think size makes any difference at all lol. The UFC's unstoppable Anderson Silva wouldn't look so unstoppable against CroCop, Semmy Schilt, Arlovski, Hunt, Silvia or even Heath Herring. Size makes such a huge difference, look what happened when Fedor fought Lindland. It took little effort for Fedor to tie him into a pretzel and submit him once in hit the ground lol.
I agree with you 100% except for one thing: in the Lindland fight, Fedor only has 2 lbs on him - Lindland is a middleweight but in this fight he was only 2 lbs lighter than Fedor! Fedor won that easily because he is just that good.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Hong Man Choi could give Anderson Silva a concussion by just holding him, taking him to the ground and then doing very basic ground-and-pound. Do you really think there is anything that a 185 lbs fighter can do against a 360 lbs one? It would be one thing if Anderson could submit Choi, but Choi is no 185 lbs Chael Sonnen. Even using leverage, Anderson wouldn't be able to submit him. In the stand-up, Anderson wouldn't have the power to do anything to Choi. It would be like a 6 year-old girl hitting a grown man. Granted, Choi wouldn't have the speed and agility to lend any punches on Silva, but he would just clinch with him, take him to the ground and lay on top of him with his 360 lbs untiil Anderson is almost dead from hypoxia. If he wanted to finish the fight sooner, a basic ground and pound with his huge fists and strength would end having Silva brain-damaged for life if the judge didn't stop the fight soon. That is 185 lbs vs 360 lbs, bra. That is the same difference in strength and power as that between a grown man and a little girl. Lmao...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Good post. Funny how all of Mindspins gimmicks don't seem to think size makes any difference at all lol. The UFC's unstoppable Anderson Silva wouldn't look so unstoppable against CroCop, Semmy Schilt, Arlovski, Hunt, Silvia or even Heath Herring. Size makes such a huge difference, look what happened when Fedor fought Lindland. It took little effort for Fedor to tie him into a pretzel and submit him once in hit the ground lol.
If you think Anderson Silva, who weighs more than 185 walking around, would take a beating from HMC, then explain to me why a 185-190lb can, Hiroshi Izumi beat HMC with striking/punches. Let me guess, Izumi is better than Silva? What do you chumps have to say about yourselves now?
Size makes all the difference huh?
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Anderson Silva won't fight anyone his own height let alone someone 7' tall. And he's not one of those fighters that have practice at fighting larger opponents, like Fedor does. Minowa even has more experience fighting larger opponents than Silva. You act as though HMC would be an easy fight for him at that!! bahahahaha!
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I can't keep track of all the turds posting here, but did I read this right? Someone said that Anderson could not beat Hong Man Choi!?!?!?! Talk about being absolutely clueless.
And, yes. Weight does make a difference, when both fighters are skilled. The only reason Fedor beat so many guys that were bigger than him, is because they were a bunch of unskilled cans. Once they put Fedor in there with a bigger guy with skills, HE LOST. LOL.
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I can't keep track of all the turds posting here, but did I read this right? Someone said that Anderson could not beat Hong Man Choi!?!?!?! Talk about being absolutely clueless.
And, yes. Weight does make a difference, when both fighters are skilled. The only reason Fedor beat so many guys that were bigger than him, is because they were a bunch of unskilled cans. Once they put Fedor in there with a bigger guy with skills, HE LOST. LOL.
Talk about an euphemistic statement. Silva was 65 lbs heavier than Fedor. 65 fucking pounds! That is the difference in weight between GSP and Cain Velasquez. The only way for you to beat a fighter that carries 65 lbs in lean body mass than you if for him to be vastly inferior to you as a fighter. Fedor is a lot better than Silva, but not enough to overcome the 65 lbs weight difference, I will give you that. If they were the same size of even if Silva were 30 lbs heavier, Fedor would have smoked him. How do you think your hero, GSP, would do in a fight against an opponent 65 lbs heavier who isn't completely unskilled? Go ask him if he would like to fight Cain for the heavyweight belt at his 170 lbs bodyweight. Let me ask you a question: Do you think Silva would have won the fight if he were Fedor's size of even 30 lbs heavier? Silva barely won the fight at 290 lbs, so at around 250 lbs he would have been destroyed.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Talk about an euphemistic statement. Silva was 65 lbs heavier than Fedor. 65 fucking pounds! That is the difference in weight between GSP and Cain Velasquez. The only way for you to beat a fighter that carries 65 lbs in lean body mass than you if for him to be vastly inferior to you as a fighter. Fedor is a lot better than Silva, but not enough to overcome the 65 lbs weight difference, I will give you that. If they were the same size of even if Silva were 30 lbs heavier, Fedor would have smoked him. How do you think your hero, GSP, would do in a fight against an opponent 65 lbs heavier who isn't completely unskilled? Go ask him if he would like to fight Cain for the heavyweight belt at his 170 lbs bodyweight. Let me ask you a question: Do you think Silva would have won the fight if he were Fedor's size of even 30 lbs heavier? Silva barely won the fight at 290 lbs, so at around 250 lbs he would have been destroyed.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Serious question: how old are you?
BTW, you are right. 65lbs is a lot to overcome. Which is why I've been saying from day one: Fedor is not the greatest heavyweight. I said it before he lost to Werdum and Big Foot.
Back then I said that if he got in there with the UFC big boys like Carwin & Lesnar, he would be dominated. All of the Fedor ball lickers laughed and said Fedor could walk through them all. Of course, after he lost, they had nothing but excuses ::)
Size matters when both opponents are skilled. But, size can be negated when one is significantly more skilled than the other. Look at Cain vs Lesnar. I bet Cain would demolish Big Foot, even though he is waaay smaller.
The bottom line is, Fedor was exposed for being an overrated can crusher. And now, he's running to a lower weight class (see my other thread).
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Serious question: how old are you?
BTW, you are right. 65lbs is a lot to overcome. Which is why I've been saying from day one: Fedor is not the greatest heavyweight. I said it before he lost to Werdum and Big Foot.
Back then I said that if he got in there with the UFC big boys like Carwin & Lesnar, he would be dominated. All of the Fedor ball lickers laughed and said Fedor could walk through them all. Of course, after he lost, they had nothing but excuses ::)
Size matters when both opponents are skilled. But, size can be negated when one is significantly more skilled than the other. Look at Cain vs Lesnar. I bet Cain would demolish Big Foot, even though he is waaay smaller.
The bottom line is, Fedor was exposed for being an overrated can crusher. And now, he's running to a lower weight class (see my other thread).
How long would GSP last against Cain Velasquez? And would GSP even have the balls to fight someone that much bigger than him? You can answer those questions with a yes or no please.. ;D
And who were all these great fighters Fedor was avoiding back in his heyday 2002-08?? He was fighting some pretty dangerous fighters in that time period and I dont know who else there was to fight.. ???
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And LOL at Shane Carwin "demolishing" Fedor. I think Cain admitted himself a couple years ago he wasn't ready for that fight too. And Lesnar? Even now an old worn out Fedor would smash Brock square in the nose with a looping heymaker and drop him on his ass. Lesnar doesnt like getting hit, Fedor is a very bad fight for him.
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Serious question: how old are you?
Why are you asking this? What is the relevance of this? Let me take a guess: you are asking this in a "serious" tone to make it seem like you think I am childish, when in reality there is nothing childish in anything I said, but you just want to call me childish to insult me.
Size matters when both opponents are skilled. But, size can be negated when one is significantly more skilled than the other. Look at Cain vs Lesnar. I bet Cain would demolish Big Foot, even though he is waaay smaller.
Are you serious with this garbage? Cain was 245 lbs for his fight with Lesnar and Lesnar was 265 lbs - he was 290 lbs for his fight with Mir but lost a lot of weight after his diverticulitis. That is a 20 lbs difference which is far from 65 lbs. Secondly, Brock is a one-dimensional wrestler with no stand-up who can't take a punch. He basically crawled into the foetal position after Cain started hitting him in the second round. Fedor would have KOd him much sooner. Big Foot Silva has a giant head and the hardest chin in MMA. He ate Fedor's punches and kept on coming. Brett Rogers has a reputation for a tough chin and a single overhand made him go sleep. The power of Fedor's punches is legandary. Even Dana White said:"If you look at Fedor, he has a lot of power, he can knock you out, but I wouldn't say he has a great stand-up."
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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And LOL at Shane Carwin "demolishing" Fedor. I think Cain admitted himself a couple years ago he wasn't ready for that fight too. And Lesnar? Even now an old worn out Fedor would smash Brock square in the nose with a looping heymaker and drop him on his ass. Lesnar doesnt like getting hit, Fedor is a very bad fight for him.
So then you completely disagree with Suckmymuscle, who says that the only reason Fedor lost to Big Foot was due to the size disadvantage.
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Why are you asking this? What is the relevance of this? Let me take a guess: you are asking this in a "serious" tone to make it seem like you think I am childish, when in reality there is nothing childish in anything I said, but you just want to call me childish to insult me.
Are you serious with this garbage? Cain was 245 lbs for his fight with Lesnar and Lesnar was 265 lbs - he was 290 lbs for his fight with Mir but lost a lot of weight after his diverticulitis. That is a 20 lbs difference which is far from 65 lbs. Secondly, Brock is a one-dimensional wrestler with no stand-up who can't take a punch. He basically crawled into the foetal position after Cain started hitting him in the second round. Fedor would have KOd him much sooner. Big Foot Silva has a giant head and the hardest chin in MMA. He ate Fedor's punches and kept on coming. Brett Rogers has a reputation for a tough chin and a single overhand made him go sleep. The power of Fedor's punches is legandary. Even Dana White said:"If you look at Fedor, he has a lot of power, he can knock you out, but I wouldn't say he has a great stand-up."
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You sounds like you're about 16-17. Am I right?
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So then you completely disagree with Suckmymuscle, who says that the only reason Fedor lost to Big Foot was due to the size disadvantage.
Fedor lost to BigFoot due to a few reasons. Size, skill and Fedors age. Carwin isn't all that skilled IMO and doesnt possess enough hand speed or fighting intelligence to beat Fedor. Lesnar is even less skilled than Carwin, bigger and slower.
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Fedor lost to BigFoot due to a few reasons. Size, skill and Fedors age. Carwin isn't all that skilled IMO and doesnt possess enough hand speed or fighting intelligence to beat Fedor. Lesnar is even less skilled than Carwin, bigger and slower.
Oh brother ::) Carwin has finished everyone of his fights in 1st round KOs, with the exception of Lesnar. And he has shown he can take a punch and still come back. Lesnar is a D1 wrestling phenom and you say he has no skills ::)
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You sounds like you're about 16-17. Am I right?
Ugh...no. And there is nothing in my post that would suggest that. For instance, I assumed at first you were retarded given your posts on Fedor, but since you are able to use a computer and access the internet, that told me otherwise. You should draw the same conclusions regarding your completely nonsensical assertion that I must be 16 to 17. By the way, moron, I have been posting here since 2004, so according to you I was 9 to 10 years old when I started posting here. Nice thinking!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ugh...no. And there is nothing in my post that would suggest that. For instance, I assumed at first you were retarded given your posts on Fedor, but since you are able to use a computer and access the internet, that told me otherwise. You should draw the same conclusions regarding your completely nonsensical assertion that I must be 16 to 17. By the way, moron, I have been posting here since 2004, so according to you I was 9 to 10 years old when I started posting here. Nice thinking!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You've been here since 2004? I never heard of you ???
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You've been here since 2004? I never heard of you ???
And you are the guy who criticizes others for being childish? The irony.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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And you are the guy who criticizes others for being childish? The irony.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
no. seriously. did you have a different name?
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Oh brother ::) Carwin has finished everyone of his fights in 1st round KOs, with the exception of Lesnar. And he has shown he can take a punch and still come back. Lesnar is a D1 wrestling phenom and you say he has no skills ::)
Those D1 skills only work for him when he's not getting punched in the face, which has been discovered previously.
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no. seriously. did you have a different name?
CockSpin, you are the most stupid and childish person to post in this board by far with the possible exception Of David Mirza and Johny Falcon. The fact that you created several gimmick accounts to agree with you on your retarded posts just goes to show how immature and insecure you truly are.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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CockSpin, you are the most stupid and childish person to post in this board by far with the possible exception Of David Mirza and Johny Falcon. The fact that you created several gimmick accounts to agree with you on your retarded posts just goes to show how immature and insecure you truly are.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Don't piss him off he might ban you lol
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CockSpin, you are the most stupid and childish person to post in this board by far with the possible exception Of David Mirza and Johny Falcon. The fact that you created several gimmick accounts to agree with you on your retarded posts just goes to show how immature and insecure you truly are.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Lol. Either you got your feelings hurt or you're on your period. Either way, meltdown. Lol.
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Lol. Either you got your feelings hurt or you're on your period. Either way, meltdown. Lol.
You are so stupid and childish. Like an adult toddler. The fact that you are middle aged and created several gimmicks to bash Fedor and PRIDE tells everything we need to know about you.
Let me ask you a question: Why are you a moderator at the MMA board? You know nothing about the topic. Second question: Do you think you are doing a good job as a mod? Here is a hint for ya: besides you gimmick, no one else does.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Lol. You resort to name calling and meltdown all over the board. You're taking it way to serious. Please let me know who my gimmicks are? I have none. Also, no MMA knowledge is required to be a mod here. I'm a mod because I am fair, never delete threads unless they contain child porn or people's private info. I could delete all your threads or modify them, but I don't. Most people who get mod powers end up abusing them. I never have.
I know your feelings are hurt because I have no idea who you are. Just get over it bro.
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Lol. You resort to name calling and meltdown all over the board. You're taking it way to serious. Please let me know who my gimmicks are? I have none. Also, no MMA knowledge is required to be a mod here. I'm a mod because I am fair, never delete threads unless they contain child porn or people's private info. I could delete all your threads or modify them, but I don't. Most people who get mod powers end up abusing them. I never have.
No, you couldn't. You would end up being demoded by Ron like four mods already have. Trust me. I am a mod and I know this.
I know your feelings are hurt because I have no idea who you are. Just get over it bro.
Lol, dude, I don't give a shit that you don't know who I am. I just think it's strange for you to say that since you have quoted so many of my posts in the truce thread since it started in 2006 until I stopped posting there about two years ago.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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The truce thread? What is that? And, if wanted to I could ban you. But, there's no reason to. That is unless, you break my rules :)
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The truce thread? What is that? And, if wanted to I could ban you. But, there's no reason to. That is unless, you break my rules :)
No, you can't. Only Ron can put people in time out or delete accounts.
You = powerless. :)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Fedor still owning minds around here
some things never change
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No, you can't. Only Ron can put people in time out or delete accounts.
You = powerless. :)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Again, what is the truce thread. Also, you said Lasnar fought Cain weighing 260. I owned you by proving otherwise. And, if you don't believe I can have you banned, just break one of my rules.
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You've been here since 2004? I never heard of you ???
Mindspin pulling the time tested "I've never heard of you even though we have had 27 different drag out, multiple page arguments and I have replied to several hundred of your quotes" angle he has pulled countless times before....90% of the G&O knows who suckmymuscle is and yet you, a moderator doesn't....Good to know you are running this over there... ::)
"Dude, I don't even know who you are"
"Truth be told I only read the first word of your last message but I am going to write a 3 paragraph meltdown response to it" ::)
All he seems to care about is posting new Fedor threads every other day to achieve his little 3 inch wood and cut and pasting a few crappy Sherdog articles...
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Again, what is the truce thread. Also, you said Lasnar fought Cain weighing 260. I owned you by proving otherwise. And, if you don't believe I can have you banned, just break one of my rules.
Suckmymuscle needs the old sarcasm treatment. He's getting too big for his little britches.
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Suckmymuscle needs the old sarcasm treatment. He's getting too big for his little britches.
I think you need to take it up the ass really soon. Your prostate is itching and that is making you act like a school girl having her menses.
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I think you need to take it up the ass really soon. Your prostate is itching and that is making you act like a school girl having her menses.
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Lol, nice try at deflecting your frustration with mindspin. I thought you were going to show mindspin what a big man you are, sucky.
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Mindspin pulling the time tested "I've never heard of you even though we have had 27 different drag out, multiple page arguments and I have replied to several hundred of your quotes" angle he has pulled countless times before....90% of the G&O knows who suckmymuscle is and yet you, a moderator doesn't....Good to know you are running this over there... ::)
"Dude, I don't even know who you are"
"Truth be told I only read the first word of your last message but I am going to write a 3 paragraph meltdown response to it" ::)
All he seems to care about is posting new Fedor threads every other day to achieve his little 3 inch wood and cut and pasting a few crappy Sherdog articles...
I rarely look at the names of the people on here. It's a bunch of anonymous people so there is no point. The only people I remember are those that write truly insightful or hilarious things or those that I know in real life. So, who are you?
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Again, what is the truce thread. Also, you said Lasnar fought Cain weighing 260. I owned you by proving otherwise.
You have done nothing to prove that otherwise. So he gained 15 lbs in one day? That is what I call a carb-up! He looked much, much smaller than he was for his fight with Mir. I think he was barely 260 lbs. In any case, Cain and Fedor are not comparable. Cain is a lean 245 lbs compared to Fedor who is a fat 225 lbs. When you take into consiideration bodyfat, Cain has 40 lbs of muscle on Fedor.
And, if you don't believe I can have you banned, just break one of my rules.
Ha ha ha ha ha ah...go fuck yourself. How is that for breaking your rules? Go ahead and ban me, you phaggot. You are the guy who calls posters "turds", "horse faces" and other insults and you think you have any moral authority to do shit? And you can't ban me since only Ron can do that. But I am willing to bet that you will beg to him like his bitch to ban me just so that you can boast that you did it.
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ya'll are losers for arguing over internet superiority.
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No, you can't. Only Ron can put people in time out or delete accounts.
You = powerless. :)
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Hahaha, mindspun owned by the truth
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Fedor has been a fantastic fighter and no loss can nullify his record .. so fucking what if he's been beaten .. NOBODY is perfect
He is a great fighter and has had more success than other's will have ... anyone is entitled to their own opinion and allowed to disagree
but facts are facts ... he earned mountains of respect in the years he's been fighting and it wasn't for nothing :)
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Fedor has been a fantastic fighter and no loss can nullify his record .. so fucking what if he's been beaten .. NOBODY is perfect
you're *like* extra hotness when you use your potty mouth !
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You have done nothing to prove that otherwise. So he gained 15 lbs in one day? That is what I call a carb-up! He looked much, much smaller than he was for his fight with Mir. I think he was barely 260 lbs. In any case, Cain and Fedor are not comparable. Cain is a lean 245 lbs compared to Fedor who is a fat 225 lbs. When you take into consiideration bodyfat, Cain has 40 lbs of muscle on Fedor.
Ha ha ha ha ha ah...go fuck yourself. How is that for breaking your rules? Go ahead and ban me, you phaggot. You are the guy who calls posters "turds", "horse faces" and other insults and you think you have any moral authority to do shit? And you can't ban me since only Ron can do that. But I am willing to bet that you will beg to him like his bitch to ban me just so that you can boast that you did it.
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I posted a video of the weightins. Lesnar was 264. And yes. You may not know this, but 15lbs in one day is nothing. And it would not be "carb up" lol. It would be rehydration ::) You really don't know shit do you ???
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Fedor has been a fantastic fighter and no loss can nullify his record .. so fucking what if he's been beaten .. NOBODY is perfect
He is a great fighter and has had more success than other's will have ... anyone is entitled to their own opinion and allowed to disagree
but facts are facts ... he earned mountains of respect in the years he's been fighting and it wasn't for nothing :)
Hmmm...you can in fact nullify his record. Please take a close look at the majority of the opponents he faced. Most had less than 5 fights (some only 1!) and/or way more losses than wins. Then, of course, there are the sideshow freaks like Hong Man Choi, or undersized opponents like Lindland (which he cheated to win) or Babalu (which went to decision).
Yes, Fedor's record looks impressive at first glance. But, aside from some epic wins of Big Nog & Crop Cop, it's really not that impressive...
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potty mouth !
I'm trying to be better about that :)
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Hmmm...you can in fact nullify his record. Please take a close look at the majority of the opponents he faced. Most had less than 5 fights (some only 1!) and/or way more losses than wins. Then, of course, there are the sideshow freaks like Hong Man Choi, or undersized opponents like Lindland (which he cheated to win) or Babalu (which went to decision).
Yes, Fedor's record looks impressive at first glance. But, aside from some epic wins of Big Nog & Crop Cop, it's really not that impressive...
I'm not buying into that cheating theory .. unless every fighter in the octagon that's been told about hanging on to the fence is given the same rap .. the supposed "holding" of the ropes had no direct relation to how the fight ended
He wasn't the one in charge of picking his opponents so he fought who he was put up against .. he's had more fights than Couture .. and I'm not slamming Couture .. I really like him too .. I'm just not going to be swayed into thinking Fedor's career was a joke .. and I'm real sorry that people want to do so
If his opponents were all supposed to be high ranking in order to be seen as worthy .. then that should be done for every fighter
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Hmmm...you can in fact nullify his record. Please take a close look at the majority of the opponents he faced. Most had less than 5 fights (some only 1!) and/or way more losses than wins. Then, of course, there are the sideshow freaks like Hong Man Choi, or undersized opponents like Lindland (which he cheated to win) or Babalu (which went to decision).
Yes, Fedor's record looks impressive at first glance. But, aside from some epic wins of Big Nog & Crop Cop, it's really not that impressive...
thats because you've only looked at fight finder and havent seen most of his fights. Fedor destroys cans with ease unlike GSP who cant even finish them.
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you're *like* extra hotness when you use your potty mouth !
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Fedor and his management dodged the fights that people wanted to see in recent years. Overeem even asked to fight Fedor and was declined twice.
Fedor had the window of opportunity to show the world that he could beat the current biggest names and perhaps the biggest HW talent in the world. He decided to accept fights that people really didn't care about, and got humiliated in defeat. These were fights he was SUPPOSED to win. The odds were at least 5-1 in his favor in both of his losses.
This is what ruined Fedor and his legacy and made many question how good he really is in today's MMA.
If you want a legacy, you got to fight the fights people want to see. Win or Lose.
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Fedor and his management dodged the fights that people wanted to see in recent years. Overeem even asked to fight Fedor and was declined twice.
Fedor had the window of opportunity to show the world that he could beat the current biggest names and perhaps the biggest HW talent in the world. He decided to accept fights that people really didn't care about, and got humiliated in defeat. These were fights he was SUPPOSED to win. The odds were at least 5-1 in his favor in both of his losses.
This is what ruined Fedor and his legacy and made many question how good he really is in today's MMA.
If you want a legacy, you got to fight the fights people want to see. Win or Lose.
Then apply that same logic to every single UFC fighter and you can come up with plenty of fighters to stand aside Fedor .. I actually LMAO at the way some people will rip apart a guy's fights / stats in order to make them look like a loser .. I'm sick and tired of seeing the same people fight over and over so unless there's going to be a new slew of guys fighting .. WHEN will we see the fights people want to see ? Hasn't the whole thing become pretty close to recycling the same fights ?
Lesnar can crawl back to wrestling for all I care .. I despise the arrogant fuckwit and would be happy to see him go and never fight again
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You could make the same argument with any fighter, easy fights, undersized opponents, rubber matches ect GSP and Silva both have loses to cans on their record. And so what if Fedor fought an undersized Lindland Anderson and GSP fight smaller opponents with less reach than them most of the time and dont get any flack for it. And how many more times is GSP gonna fight guys the UFC know he can beat to build his status and "legacy"? UFC cares more about GSPs image and padding his record than challenging him with a fight he might actually lose.
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Then apply that same logic to every single UFC fighter and you can come up with plenty of fighters to stand aside Fedor .. I actually LMAO at the way some people will rip apart a guy's fights / stats in order to make them look like a loser .. I'm sick and tired of seeing the same people fight over and over so unless there's going to be a new slew of guys fighting .. WHEN will we see the fights people want to see ? Hasn't the whole thing become pretty close to recycling the same fights ?
Lesnar can crawl back to wrestling for all I care .. I despise the arrogant fuckwit and would be happy to see him go and never fight again
We both agree about Lesnar. And we both agree that there are some guys whose records are also unimpressive because of too many can crushing wins. But, there are guys who have truly cleaned out their division against high caliber opposition. And, they may have more losses on their record than Fedor, but that is what happens when you are consistently fighting the best.
What fights do you want to see that aren't happening? Aside from some of the top Strikeforce guys, the elite fighters have all been facing each-other in the UFC. And in less than a year, we will get to see Alistar, Diaz, Melendez, etc. square off against the top UFC guys....
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You could make the same argument with any fighter, easy fights, undersized opponents, rubber matches ect GSP and Silva both have loses to cans on their record. And so what if Fedor fought an undersized Lindland Anderson and GSP fight smaller opponents with less reach than them most of the time and dont get any flack for it. And how many more times is GSP gonna fight guys the UFC know he can beat to build his status and "legacy"? UFC cares more about GSPs image and padding his record than challenging him with a fight he might actually lose.
It's not GSPs fault that he has beaten EVERY top welterweight. Is there anyone out there that he is ducking? The answer is no. And, GSP is not a huge welterweight. He is the perfect size for his division. Fedor was a heavyweight and Matt Lindland was a middle weight. That two weight classes...
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They could of found better opponents for him than Dan Hardy and Koscheck twice like Koscheck gave him a fight the first time. There are dangerous fighters out there that the UFC doesnt want fighting their champion. I mean your telling me he had to fight Koscheck twice!!? What was that supposed to prove?? They knew he would beat the shit out of him easier than he did the first time, so that made Josh the perfect fight for him.
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They could of found better opponents for him than Dan Hardy and Koscheck twice like Koscheck gave him a fight the first time. There are dangerous fighters out there that the UFC doesnt want fighting their champion. I mean your telling me he had to fight Koscheck twice!!? What was that supposed to prove?? They knew he would beat the shit out of him easier than he did the first time, so that made Josh the perfect fight for him.
Please let me know who some of these "dangerous" fighters are ::) And KOS lost to GSP and then worked his way back up to a title. That's just the way it goes.
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Then apply that same logic to every single UFC fighter and you can come up with plenty of fighters to stand aside Fedor .. I actually LMAO at the way some people will rip apart a guy's fights / stats in order to make them look like a loser .. I'm sick and tired of seeing the same people fight over and over so unless there's going to be a new slew of guys fighting .. WHEN will we see the fights people want to see ? Hasn't the whole thing become pretty close to recycling the same fights ?
Lesnar can crawl back to wrestling for all I care .. I despise the arrogant fuckwit and would be happy to see him go and never fight again
I'm not talking about just records here. Tell me why Fedor had any business fighting Werdum, when Allistar had the belt? Fedor ducked Overeem twice. Fedor was ranked #1HW in the world at the time.
The thing with UFC fighters has been that they are in the biggest pool of top talent and they have to fight the fights people want to see, like it or not.
Jones vs Rashad is a great example. Now that we are closer to having one unified org, the antics that Fedor pulled are close to not ever happening again.
We all know it, Fedor should have signed with the UFC when he had the chance, then there would be no room for argument from anyone.
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Hmmm...you can in fact nullify his record. Please take a close look at the majority of the opponents he faced. Most had less than 5 fights (some only 1!) and/or way more losses than wins. Then, of course, there are the sideshow freaks like Hong Man Choi, or undersized opponents like Lindland (which he cheated to win) or Babalu (which went to decision).
Yes, Fedor's record looks impressive at first glance. But, aside from some epic wins of Big Nog & Crop Cop, it's really not that impressive...
and you still can't name a fighter with a more impressive record ::)
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Please let me know who some of these "dangerous" fighters are ::) And KOS lost to GSP and then worked his way back up to a title. That's just the way it goes.
worked his way back up to a title by getting KO's by Paulo Thiago??
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worked his way back up to a title by getting KO's by Paulo Thiago??
He had 6 wins after his 1st loss to GSP. So, who are these "dangerous" fighters that GSP is ducking ???
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He had 6 wins after his 1st loss to GSP. So, who are these "dangerous" fighters that GSP is ducking ???
you know, all those 185ers hes ducking..
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you know, all those 185ers hes ducking..
lol
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and you still can't name a fighter with a more impressive record ::)
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Jeremy Horn.
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and you still can't name a fighter with a more impressive record ::)
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There are PLENTY! Some may have more losses, but they were wars against top competition. I'd rather be 1-99 if those 99 losses were competitive battles against the best in the world.
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There are PLENTY! Some may have more losses, but they were wars against top competition. I'd rather be 1-99 if those 99 losses were competitive battles against the best in the world.
so name "plenty"
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so name "plenty"
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GSP, BJ Pen, Anderson Silva, etc. all have more impressive records. But, if you want to go strictly by numbers without looking at the opponents, how about Miguel Torres.
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GSP, BJ Pen, Anderson Silva, etc. all have more impressive records. But, if you want to go strictly by numbers without looking at the opponents, how about Miguel Torres.
lol!
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GSP, BJ Pen, Anderson Silva, etc. all have more impressive records. But, if you want to go strictly by numbers without looking at the opponents, how about Miguel Torres.
The difference is GSP and Anderson have been beaten convincingly by cans that were smaller than them. Fedor destroyed cans 50lbs heavier, violently and abruptly.
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So I guess Jeremy Horn would beat Fedor then too huh,? just like everyone else lol ::)
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The difference is GSP and Anderson have been beaten convincingly by cans that were smaller than them. Fedor destroyed cans 50lbs heavier, violently and abruptly.
lol. you got me there.
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Jeremy Horn is def underrated though. Solid fighter.