If Fedor wants to fight at the highest level he 'can't be rolling around fat'

[MindSpin]

http://videos.mmaweekly.com/videos/joe-rogan-on-fedor/

[Geo]

pretty sick and tired of hearing the name Fedor for now...


wake me up when he gets a "W' .

[MindSpin]

pretty sick and tired of hearing the name Fedor for now...


wake me up when he gets a "W' .

that's going to be a long nap....

[suckmymuscle]

http://videos.mmaweekly.com/videos/joe-rogan-on-fedor/

  So basically, one of your heroes just agreed with me that the reason Fedor is losing is because he is getting vastly outweighted by these guys and not because he is inferior in skills. Nice. Having Mr.UFC agree with me will shut you and your gimmick once and for all.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[WeightPSHR]

  So basically, one of your heroes just agreed with me that the reason Fedor is losing is because he is getting vastly outweighted by these guys and not because he is inferior in skills. Nice. Having Mr.UFC agree with me will shut you and your gimmick once and for all.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Not what Rogan said whatsoever. He said you can't roll in being FAT with a BELLY like Fedor and face these bigger monsters.

FYI...Cain and Dos Santos are 'small' HW's as well....but they actually have muscle to fill their frame.

Point: Can't be UNDERSIZED AS WELL AS FAT.

Roy Nelson does OK, but he is a fat 265, bot a fat 230-240.

[suckmymuscle]

Not what Rogan said whatsoever. He said you can't roll in being FAT with a BELLY like Fedor and face these bigger monsters.

FYI...Cain and Dos Santos are 'small' HW's as well....but they actually have muscle to fill their frame.

Point: Can't be UNDERSIZED AS WELL AS FAT.

Roy Nelson does OK, but he is a fat 265, bot a fat 230-240.

  No, he said you cannot fight opponents that carry a lot more lean body mass than you do. This is what is meant by Fedor being a fat 225 lbs compared to these guys who are a lean 290 lbs like Silva. He said that Fedor is not even a light-heavyweight, but a middleweight. He said Fedor should compete at 185 lbs. And Cain and JDS are a lean 245 lbs compared to Fedor's fat 225 lbs. You cannot compare them. When you adjust for bodyfat, both Cain as well as JDS have 40 lean pounds Fedor.

  Here is how I saw the Fedor vs Silva fight: Fedor went 1-1 on 2 rounds against a guy who had 65 lbs on him, much greater reach and is 5 years younger, and lost due to a doctor stoppage and not because he was KOd. Would Fedor have lost if Silva were his size or even 20 lbs heavier? No. I think Fedor is incredible, whilst you think he sucks. To me, that is fine. Frankly, I am sick of debating Fedor with you because you are too biased to give credit to the guy. Good bye.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[WeightPSHR]

 No, he said you cannot fight opponents that carry a lot more lean body mass than you do. This is what is meant by Fedor being a fat 225 lbs compared to these guys who are a lean 290 lbs like Silva. He said that Fedor is not even a light-heavyweight, but a middleweight. He said Fedor should compete at 185 lbs. And Cain and JDS are a lean 245 lbs compared to Fedor's fat 225 lbs. You cannot compare them. When you adjust for bodyfat, both Cain as well as JDS have 40 lean pounds Fedor.

  Here is how I saw the Fedor vs Silva fight: Fedor went 1-1 on 2 rounds against a guy who had 65 lbs on him, much greater reach and is 5 years younger, and lost due to a doctor stoppage and not because he was KOd. Would Fedor have lost if Silva were his size or even 20 lbs heavier? No. I think Fedor is incredible, whilst you think he sucks. To me, that is fine. Frankly, I am sick of debating Fedor with you because you are too biased to give credit to the guy. Good bye.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I think you misunderstood what I wrote in my last post.  I agree with you and Rogan. Fedor is FAT for sure. JDS and Cain are not fat and carry more LBM at HW which allows them to be competitive.

If Fedor could actually go on a diet, he may or may not be competitive. A lot of variables to a weight cut.  Think about it, there are guys a LW and WW with more LBM(muscle) than Fedor a HW. That's insane.

And lets not start getting crazy here...Bigfoot, although a big HW, is not top of the talent pool by any means.
 

[*ChuteBoxe*]

StoolPshr/Minspin why don't you permanently sticky a Fedor thread on the main MMA board?   Seeing you create thread after thread about the same shit is pretty annoying.  It would definitely give you TUF newbs and Fight Finder Fanatics a good place to go and cry and it will clean the repetitive crap off the board as well. 

[BILL ANVIL]

  So basically, one of your heroes just agreed with me that the reason Fedor is losing is because he is getting vastly outweighted by these guys and not because he is inferior in skills. Nice. Having Mr.UFC agree with me will shut you and your gimmick once and for all.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

no size doesn't make a difference.. 

[BILL ANVIL]

Lets see anybody else fight people that much bigger than him. Everyone else Fedors size is scared shitless to fight at their natural weight.

[WeightPSHR]

Lets see anybody else fight people that much bigger than him. Everyone else Fedors size is scared shitless to fight at their natural weight.

Cain fought Brock.
JDS fought Roy Nelson.

There are many others.

[WeightPSHR]

StoolPshr/Minspin why don't you permanently sticky a Fedor thread on the main MMA board?   Seeing you create thread after thread about the same shit is pretty annoying.  It would definitely give you TUF newbs and Fight Finder Fanatics a good place to go and cry and it will clean the repetitive crap off the board as well. 

You have a couple options here Chumpbox....

1. Start your own threads with the topics of your choice.

2. Ignore the threads that you don't want to read.

Simple really. Most children learn these skills in preschool.

[BILL ANVIL]

Cain fought Brock.
JDS fought Roy Nelson.

There are many others.

Fedor is shorter, smaller and has never had a reach advantage when he fought bigger guys. You know this...

[MindSpin]

Fedor never had a problem beating larger men when they were cans like Hong man Choi. Now that he is fighting slightly better opposition, he has been exposed. I agree with Rogan. If Fedor wants to be competitive today, he can no longer get by fighting heavy weight cans. He's going to have to drop to 205 or even 185 to stand a chance. Even then, I don't think he has the speed.

[BILL ANVIL]

Fedor never had a problem beating larger men when they were cans like Hong man Choi. Now that he is fighting slightly better opposition, he has been exposed. I agree with Rogan. If Fedor wants to be competitive today, he can no longer get by fighting heavy weight cans. He's going to have to drop to 205 or even 185 to stand a chance. Even then, I don't think he has the speed.

Lets see Anderson beat HMC in the first round.

[WeightPSHR]

Lets see Anderson beat HMC in the first round.

Come on here...HMC was fighting Canseco.  If that doesn't say enough, I don't know what to tell you.

[suckmymuscle]

Fedor never had a problem beating larger men when they were cans like Hong man Choi. Now that he is fighting slightly better opposition, he has been exposed. I agree with Rogan. If Fedor wants to be competitive today, he can no longer get by fighting heavy weight cans. He's going to have to drop to 205 or even 185 to stand a chance. Even then, I don't think he has the speed.

  Lol, dude, the only way for you to defeat opponents that are 50+ lbs heavier than you is if they are either completely unskilled or very slow/uncoordinated. You make it seem like there are fighters out there who defeat opponents who outweight them by 50+ lbs and are highly skilled, when there aren't any. You also make it seem like it's easy to defeat opponents who have 65 lean lbs on you, much greater reach and who are 5 years younger and into their primes. Silva is not even close to being as good as Fedor. He just layed on top of Fedor with his ridiculous 130 kg(same weight as Ronnie in the off-season) and pounded Fedor's face in. Fedor simply didn't have the strength to remove the 130 kg weight from off him, just like GSP wouldn't have the strength to remove Cain from off him if they fought - same 65 lbs weight difference. Yet, Fedor still held his own and went 1-1 on 2 rounds and lost due to a doctor's stoppage. If they were the same weight, or even if Silva enjoyed a 20 lbs weight advantage over him, Fedor would have destroyed him. Silva only won due to the ridiculous weight advantage of 65 lbs, or 4 weight classes!!!!!!!!!! Do you really think that Silva would have won if they were the same size or even if Silva were slightly bigger? C'mon...even with the reach and gigantic weight advantage, Fedor still won one of two rounds according to the judges cards. At the same weight, Fedor would have destroyed him. Lol.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[BILL ANVIL]

Fact is, any other fighter Fedor's size wouldn't have made it through half of his opponents. Like I said, Anderson Silva would not beat HMC in the first round, if at all. Nobody does or did what Fedor did.

[kevcat]

Fact is, any other fighter Fedor's size wouldn't have made it through half of his opponents. Like I said, Anderson Silva would not beat HMC in the first round, if at all. Nobody does or did what Fedor did.

And that is the most sensible thing anyones said in this thread

[WeightPSHR]

Fact is, any other fighter Fedor's size wouldn't have made it through half of his opponents. Like I said, Anderson Silva would not beat HMC in the first round, if at all. Nobody does or did what Fedor did.

You can't seriously be telling me that Anderson Silva couldn't beat Hong Man Choi are you?  His last victory was over Jose Canseco.  HMC is a talentless freakshow fighter.

[*ChuteBoxe*]

You have a couple options here Chumpbox....

1. Start your own threads with the topics of your choice.

2. Ignore the threads that you don't want to read.

Simple really. Most children learn these skills in preschool.

I think I'll go with 3.  Continue to reply to your dumb ass anti everything not
ufc and anti fedor comments.  You literally bring nothing else
to the table
at all, with the exception of the
occasional "so and so can beat so and
so because of his record".  I will start

posting more topics though, this place
is needs a break from the usual two
topic spam that you pollute this board with.

[WeightPSHR]

In all seriousness, I would welcome the posting of more topics. Have at it.

You talk of me hating anything that isn't the UFC, but that's a rather silly statement these days don't you think?

[BILL ANVIL]

You can't seriously be telling me that Anderson Silva couldn't beat Hong Man Choi are you?  His last victory was over Jose Canseco.  HMC is a talentless freakshow fighter.

Ok then, take me through the fight..

[WeightPSHR]

Ok then, take me through the fight..

Anderson by whatever way he wants RD.1.

[BILL ANVIL]

Lol hell no