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Title: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: the trainer on April 13, 2011, 08:08:22 AM
I am trying to understand why there is so much phil heath hate on this board, he is a well spoken guy with a great physique, I can understand gh being jealous of phil because after all he is a washed up loser bodybuilder who never achieved anything, and his only joy in life is to talk crap on getbig, he knows a little bit about steroids i will give him that, but you cannot just look at a bodybuilder and know for sure what they are taking i mean come on.

Phil physique has weaknesses but so does every bodybuilder on the planet, Jay is mr o and you can say he is blocky and needs more shape, so whats the big deal, and every top pro bodybuilder takes insulin and gh so that is also not a big deal, fact remains phil heath is a future my O so deal with it.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: BayGBM on April 13, 2011, 08:12:03 AM
They don't like him because he is too small where it counts!  :D
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 13, 2011, 08:13:35 AM
They don't like him because he is too small where it counts!  :D

Exactly!

We like men with HUGE cocks!

Bring on Levrone, Centaponi, Branch!!
"1"
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Firemuscle on April 13, 2011, 08:16:13 AM
I am trying to understand why there is so much phil heath hate on this board, he is a well spoken guy with a great physique, I can understand gh being jealous of phil because after all he is a washed up loser bodybuilder who never achieved anything, and his only joy in life is to talk crap on getbig, he knows a little bit about steroids i will give him that, but you cannot just look at a bodybuilder and know for sure what they are taking i mean come on.
   Phil physique has weaknesses but so does every bodybuilder on the planet, Jay is mr o and you can say he is blocky and needs more shape, so whats the big deal, and every top pro bodybuilder takes insulin and gh so that is also not a big deal, fact remains phil heath is a future my O so deal with it.

 Hey phil, your arms look silly as hell. Too much synthol. Way too big and soft and oiley looking. Your muscles look bloated and 95% water.

 There ya go. If you need any training tips, please feel free to ask.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: MB on April 13, 2011, 08:19:55 AM
I don't think anyone here hates Phil.  There's a difference between critique and personal attacks. 
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: BayGBM on April 13, 2011, 08:19:59 AM
They don't like him because he can eat donuts and still look like that!

a ring on each hand
a watch
a bracelet and
an earring
bulging muscles and tight shirt
got his nails done too
LV manpurse

and because he is schmoe sponsored!  :D
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Bam-bam on April 13, 2011, 08:20:40 AM
They don't like him because he is too small where it counts!  :D


ROFLL, it took one fucking reply to this post backfire in a epic form .
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: el numero uno on April 13, 2011, 08:24:59 AM
I am trying to understand why there is so much phil heath hate on this board, he is a well spoken guy with a great physique, I can understand gh being jealous of phil because after all he is a washed up loser bodybuilder who never achieved anything, and his only joy in life is to talk crap on getbig, he knows a little bit about steroids i will give him that, but you cannot just look at a bodybuilder and know for sure what they are taking i mean come on.
   Phil physique has weaknesses but so does every bodybuilder on the planet, Jay is mr o and you can say he is blocky and needs more shape, so whats the big deal, and every top pro bodybuilder takes insulin and gh so that is also not a big deal, fact remains phil heath is a future my O so deal with it.

Phil you already have an account here, use that account :D
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: _bruce_ on April 13, 2011, 08:31:05 AM
Fuck you and your balloon "gay trainer".
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Game Time on April 13, 2011, 08:31:39 AM
They don't like him because he can eat donuts and still look like that!

a ring on each hand
a watch
a bracelet and
an earring
bulging muscles and tight shirt
got his nails done too
LV manpurse

and because he is schmoe sponsored!  :D
How do you notice all that? Now that you point it out, that's very gay.

Whats your deal Phil?
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: G_Thang on April 13, 2011, 08:36:25 AM
Phil you already have an account here, use that account :D

trainer is one of jay's fanboys sticking up for phil.

they're all over getbig.  someone loaded one of jay's videos on youtube, posted the link and youtube had a copyright violation within 10mins and took it down.

as for phil, the bitch posted, "he couldn't believe he was posting on this board."  i'm assuming he has evolved past the BS called GetBig since he got his procard and a decent paycheck. 
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: musclecenter on April 13, 2011, 08:50:06 AM
Why so much Phil Heath hate haters on this board  ::)

(and 99% of them NEVER post their pics ::) )
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 13, 2011, 08:55:36 AM
They don't like him because he can eat donuts and still look like that!

a ring on each hand
a watch
a bracelet and
an earring
bulging muscles and tight shirt
got his nails done too
LV manpurse

and because he is schmoe sponsored!  :D

Seriously, how the hell did you notice all that crap?  :-\
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Parker on April 13, 2011, 08:56:51 AM
Hey phil, your arms look silly as hell. Too much synthol. Way too big and soft and oiley looking. Your muscles look bloated and 95% water.

 There ya go. If you need any training tips, please feel free to ask.
Take a look at those arms pictured---those don't look "soft and oily'


As far as hate, he still gets the Getbig Stamp of Approval, it's just that we give him shit...sometimes the "newness" wears off, and the starry eyed soon recognize that a physique is more than big ass arms...
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 13, 2011, 08:58:09 AM
Seriously, how the hell did you notice all that carp?  :-\

It's right in front of you dude, you don't have to be GAY to notice it.

While I don't know about Phil's sexual preference, he sure seems to stay on top of his looks.

I will say that having met Phil before, he is a nice guy.  He comes off as a little arrogant, but if you talk to him about the IFBB, competitions or even other competitors, he will be straight with you.

"1"
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 13, 2011, 09:00:49 AM
It's right in front of you dude, you don't have to be GAY to notice it.

While I don't know about Phil's sexual preference, he sure seems to stay on top of his looks.

I will say that having met Phil before, he is a nice guy.  He comes off as a little arrogant, but if you talk to him about the IFBB, competitions or even other competitors, he will be straight with you.

"1"

I keep on top of mine, but rings, earrings, Bracelets, a purse.  :-\ And how the hell would you even know that he had a Manicure? I mean, i do not even notice that shit when i am dating a girl.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Parker on April 13, 2011, 09:03:40 AM
It's right in front of you dude, you don't have to be GAY to notice it.

While I don't know about Phil's sexual preference, he sure seems to stay on top of his looks.

I will say that having met Phil before, he is a nice guy.  He comes off as a little arrogant, but if you talk to him about the IFBB, competitions or even other competitors, he will be straight with you.

"1"
From what I've read and his vids, he comes across as pretty cool...he might have that "I'm pretty" vibe, but he seems like a okay dude...

So basically that pic to y'all goes like this:" Hair done, Nails done, everything did"
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 13, 2011, 09:05:17 AM
I keep on top of mine, but rings, earrings, Bracelets, a purse.  :-\ And how the hell would you even know that he had a Manicure? I mean, i do not even notice that shit when i am dating a girl.

Why wouldn't you pay attention to that when dating a woman?

I think that should be a deal breaker.  If a woman doesn't take care of her hands/nails and also her toenails, I think that should automatically disqualify her from any long term potential.

When people fail to care for the little things that are so apparent to the naked eye, imagine how much they probably neglect the bigger things (vaginal hygiene, rectal cleansings, STD checks etc..).

This is just one GAY man's opinion Doug, I'm not saying it's right..
"1"
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: BayGBM on April 13, 2011, 09:06:06 AM
Seriously, how the hell did you notice all that crap?  :-\

Connecting... the... dots 101   ;)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248135.0
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 13, 2011, 09:08:44 AM
Connecting... the... dots 101   ;)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248135.0

Regardless of how many times I see this picture, it never gets old!

Lonnie for the WIN!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=248135.0;attach=288490;image)

"1"
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 13, 2011, 09:08:53 AM
Why wouldn't you pay attention to that when dating a woman?

I think that should be a deal breaker.  If a woman doesn't take care of her hands/nails and also her toenails, I think that should automatically disqualify her from any long term potential.

When people fail to care for the little things that are so apparent to the naked eye, imagine how much they probably neglect the bigger things (vaginal hygiene, rectal cleansings, STD checks etc..).

This is just one GAY man's opinion Doug, I'm not saying it's right..
"1"

I can respect that. Woman get pissed when you do not notice that they got their hair done, nails, clothes, feet, tan,..etc. I just never pay any attention to that crap. I just love a lady for her and it would not matter if she just woke up in the morning and had no make up on. I still would love her or take care of her.  :)
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Mr. Magoo on April 13, 2011, 09:10:35 AM
I can respect that. Woman get pissed when you do not notice that they got their hair done, nails, clothes, feet, tan,..etc. I just never pay any attention to that crap. I just love a lady for her and it would not matter if she just woke up in the morning and had no make up on. I still would love her or take care of her.  :)

your girlfriend must read the boards too?
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Meso_z on April 13, 2011, 09:10:53 AM
I am trying to understand why there is so much phil heath hate on this board, he is a well spoken guy with a great physique, I can understand gh being jealous of phil because after all he is a washed up loser bodybuilder who never achieved anything, and his only joy in life is to talk crap on getbig, he knows a little bit about steroids i will give him that, but you cannot just look at a bodybuilder and know for sure what they are taking i mean come on.

Phil physique has weaknesses but so does every bodybuilder on the planet, Jay is mr o and you can say he is blocky and needs more shape, so whats the big deal, and every top pro bodybuilder takes insulin and gh so that is also not a big deal, fact remains phil heath is a future my O so deal with it.
Whenever Phils name pops up..you always see comments about his "width" and "weak" chest, usually from permabulkers thinking that "width" is something, because themselves are fat as fuck they think they are "wide" lol, fools. Heath has NO weak points and will become Mr Olympia.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: BayGBM on April 13, 2011, 09:11:30 AM
Why wouldn't you pay attention to that when dating a woman?

I think that should be a deal breaker.  If a woman doesn't take care of her hands/nails and also her toenails, I think that should automatically disqualify her from any long term potential.

When people fail to care for the little things that are so apparent to the naked eye, imagine how much they probably neglect the bigger things (vaginal hygiene, rectal cleansings, STD checks etc..).

This is just one GAY man's opinion Doug, I'm not saying it's right..
"1"

For some people it is not important, but to me personal grooming is a very important criteria.  I am not the sort to get a manicure, but I do think combing your hair, shaving (or trimming a beard), cutting nails regularly, clipping ear/nose hair, etc. is something people should pay attention to--especially as you get older.  Being 22 and disheveled can be sexy.  Being old and disheveled just makes you a troll.  This is true for men and women!

Phil sets a high bar!  :D
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: BayGBM on April 13, 2011, 09:12:17 AM
Regardless of how many times I see this picture, it never gets old!

Lonnie for the WIN!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=248135.0;attach=288490;image)

"1"

Wipe that drool of your mouth!  :D
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 13, 2011, 09:12:48 AM
Connecting... the... dots 101   ;)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248135.0

I will try and debate this when my brain starts function this afternoon. I see that there is Ten pages and not sure that i will be able to offer more. I just saw some Dude posing with tires and in some jeans or something...so, i see a dude that i would like to look like taking pix for a mag and some tires in the background.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: the trainer on April 13, 2011, 09:42:00 AM
Whenever Phils name pops up..you always see comments about his "width" and "weak" chest, usually from permabulkers thinking that "width" is something, because themselves are fat as fuck they think they are "wide" lol, fools. Heath has NO weak points and will become Mr Olympia.



Exactly, He has a full chest but its not very wide, but if you look at him he is as close to perfection as a bodybuilder could be, beautiful shape, freaky with no gh gut hanging out.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 13, 2011, 10:08:06 AM
your girlfriend must read the boards too?

Nope. Many women that i have dated believes that Bodybuilding is very gay. Women cannot understand why any man would read Flex, MD, Muscle Mag,..etc or read on Getbig.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: BayGBM on April 13, 2011, 10:22:02 AM
Nope. Many women that i have dated believes that Bodybuilding is very gay. Women cannot understand why any man would read Flex, MD, Muscle Mag,..etc or read on Getbig.

Listen to those women.  ;)
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Disgusted on April 13, 2011, 10:28:43 AM
I actually think that Phil has an excellent physique and more than anything I am impressed with his conditioning. Of course he does have his flaws as everyone does. I personally don't care about how much drugs he took to get where he is. From the looks of it he started using right around the time he started lifting and again I couldn't care less if he did or not. He is doing what all the rest do and anyone who says he isn't is either a liar or hasn't a clue about pro bodybuilding. He gets very pufffy looking in the off season as do a lot of guys, but he seems to get so more than most and I think this is why he gets criticized. He has good separation on stage with very thin skin which in part is due to his genetics, but because of the slin use he lacks some striations within the muscle itself, but so do all the rest of these guys so he is on an even playing field when it comes to that aspect. As far as Phil the man I do not know him at all. He did seem a little cocky when he first burst on to the scene, but this seems to have settled down some especially after a few losses.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: HUGEPECS on April 13, 2011, 10:36:39 AM
They don't like him because he is too small where it counts!  :D


I guest you like it big where it counts, Bay?
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: BayGBM on April 13, 2011, 10:49:05 AM
I will try and debate this when my brain starts function this afternoon. I see that there is Ten pages and not sure that i will be able to offer more. I just saw some Dude posing with tires and in some jeans or something...so, i see a dude that i would like to look like taking pix for a mag and some tires in the background.

DK II or Dr. Chimps (I always get them confused) has explicated this very clearly in the past; perhaps he will repost is thoughts on the subject for your edification.  There are college classes and books devoted to the subject of image consumption or art appreciation.  The ability to see what is obvious (or less obvious) in images is a skill.  It is taught, one can learn it and improve the skill with time and experience.  Here are some books to get you started.

The Matter of Images: Essays on Representations by Richard Dyer
http://www.amazon.com/Matter-Images-Essays-Representations/dp/0415254957/ref=dp_ob_title_bk

White: Essays on Race and Culture By Richard Dyer
http://www.amazon.com/White-Essays-Culture-Richard-Dyer/dp/0415095379/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_4

This latter book is really about film and still photography; chapter 4 is devoted to bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Dr Dutch on April 13, 2011, 10:49:47 AM
Anyway, I still wouldn't mind having Heath's fysique.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: BayGBM on April 13, 2011, 10:51:27 AM

I guest you like it big where it counts, Bay?

I've got it big where it counts! Bodybuilders and getbiggers are not flirting with me because of my charming personality?  ;)
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 13, 2011, 10:55:52 AM
I've got it big where it counts! Bodybuilders and getbiggers are not flirting with me because of my charming personality?  ;)


Do they want your credit score?  :D It has to be Methyl Mike.  :o
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Emmortal on April 13, 2011, 11:02:58 AM
I actually think that Phil has an excellent physique and more than anything I am impressed with his conditioning. Of course he does have his flaws as everyone does. I personally don't care about how much drugs he took to get where he is. From the looks of it he started using right around the time he started lifting and again I couldn't care less if he did or not. He is doing what all the rest do and anyone who says he isn't is either a liar or hasn't a clue about pro bodybuilding. He gets very pufffy looking in the off season as do a lot of guys, but he seems to get so more than most and I think this is why he gets criticized. He has good separation on stage with very thin skin which in part is due to his genetics, but because of the slin use he lacks some striations within the muscle itself, but so do all the rest of these guys so he is on an even playing field when it comes to that aspect. As far as Phil the man I do not know him at all. He did seem a little cocky when he first burst on to the scene, but this seems to have settled down some especially after a few losses.

Not winning a show since 2008 tends to settle down the cockiness ;)
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: MB on April 13, 2011, 11:09:36 AM


Exactly, He has a full chest but its not very wide, but if you look at him he is as close to perfection as a bodybuilder could be, beautiful shape, freaky with no gh gut hanging out.

Mrs. Heath?
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: BayGBM on April 13, 2011, 11:11:12 AM

Do they want your credit score?  :D It has to be Methyl Mike.  :o

He will never have my credit score... nor my earbuds!  ;D
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=354714.msg5004000#msg5004000
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 13, 2011, 11:12:10 AM
(http://images.quickblogcast.com/9/1/0/1/1/118998-111019/Heathmarweb.JPG)


Sorry Homosexuals, he is married to a fine hoe.  8)
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Nails on April 13, 2011, 11:15:38 AM
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Meso_z on April 13, 2011, 11:17:46 AM
(http://images.quickblogcast.com/9/1/0/1/1/118998-111019/Heathmarweb.JPG)


Sorry Homosexuals, he is married to a fine hoe.  8)
Insane arms and forearms..
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 13, 2011, 11:19:03 AM
Insane Titties and ass.. on his wife.  8)


:D


Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Game Time on April 13, 2011, 11:27:21 AM
Personally, I like the look of Heath, I think he flows well. Off season is another story, but that goes to say with many BB'ers.

Do I care what drugs he used/uses to maintain his physique? No.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 13, 2011, 11:31:57 AM
(http://images.quickblogcast.com/9/1/0/1/1/118998-111019/Heathmarweb.JPG)


Sorry Homosexuals, he is married to a fine hoe.  8)

As are many homosexuals, thode ladies are called beards.

"1"
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: gh15 on April 13, 2011, 11:40:24 AM
I am trying to understand why there is so much phil heath hate on this board, he is a well spoken guy with a great physique, I can understand gh being jealous of phil because after all he is a washed up loser bodybuilder who never achieved anything, and his only joy in life is to talk crap on getbig, he knows a little bit about steroids i will give him that, but you cannot just look at a bodybuilder and know for sure what they are taking i mean come on.

Phil physique has weaknesses but so does every bodybuilder on the planet, Jay is mr o and you can say he is blocky and needs more shape, so whats the big deal, and every top pro bodybuilder takes insulin and gh so that is also not a big deal, fact remains phil heath is a future my O so deal with it.

listen retard,,you assume thing,,i state facts about your physiqe,,now philip i will explain to you theproblem you have which has ntohing to do to my placings as pro,,has nothing to do to how good of bodybuild i am ,,i actually placed better than you in a harder era to place and since you have not won o yet multiple times you are not better ...not even on the paper my friend,,,

now! your problem is WIDTH OF CALVICLES,, this is about 60-70% of being a bodybuildrer at the top ,,used to be atleast,,it is eriously 60% ,,take a look at the picture of you with the girl they posted,,your wife whomever she is ,,that female is trying!! to be tiny and small and thin she has no width and guess what? look at her next to you you look like twins in the width department,,its almost like you took picture on the beach and you are the beach body,,

do you think a beach body type of physiqe should become mr o? many fellas on the beach are sliced and seperated...yes they are not blown up but they also do not use insulina and gh out of their ears on a daily basis for years,, so friend you are exactly their width ...

what in your right mind make you think that you can be mr o ? the fact you got good skin ? the fact you got good muscle belloes of the arms ? the fact your delts blew up well on hgh and insulina? the main thing that should be ther eis no there,,,its like house with no underground bunker in ww2 in england where the natzis threw boms right and left,,,what happened to those houses? they were destroyed,,

your luick is this ,,you are competing in an era where the judges dont give a fuck ,,they dont care much for symetry ,,they dont care much for proportions,,they only care about CONDITION AND SHEAR SIZE,,that is your luck my friend,,

i do not hate you ,,not at all ,,i just think you are a wanna be,,a wanna be is a fella that well...want to be a bodybuildr but doesnt have all the tools so he count on outside factors to pull him ahead...its just how you think and how you are my friend,,not hate twards you its more critesizm of the whole system of ifbb today ,,

you dont have much to compete against ,,if denise came up sharp you would be wiped ,,you are not even the ken wheeler of this generation ,,look at ken wheeler HE HAD FOUNDATION to some degree,,he wasnt all fuckin hgh and insulina,,

you are ALL HGH AND INSULINA,, personaly i would put you at 200lb competition weight,,you do know that 5'9 200lb competition weight is pretty much what  you are foundation wize with aas and gh

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: gh15 on April 13, 2011, 11:42:42 AM
when i wrote width i meant the width of her calvicles compare to phillips,,the chest area,,the part of the actual chest from side to side,,TWINS,, 110lb female and 230? lb bodybuild ,,thisi is beyond joke

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: dr.chimps on April 13, 2011, 11:47:11 AM
DK II or Dr. Chimps (I always get them confused) has explicated this very clearly in the past; perhaps he will repost is thoughts on the subject for your edification.  There are college classes and books devoted to the subject of image consumption or art appreciation.  The ability to see what is obvious (or less obvious) in images is a skill.  It is taught, one can learn it and improve the skill with time and experience.  Here are some books to get you started.
Ha! Drag me into this. Yup. That was me. Despite Chickster's protests to the contrary, there does exist a homo-erotic aesthetic defined by a class of signifiers, just like there exist various other artistic aesthetics characterized by concomitant signifiers. A casual grasp of art will inform you of this - you don't have to be Sister Wendy. Someone post up that pic of the army Chickster with the huge chain links, dirtied up a bit  and the 'come hither' look and compare it with anything Herb Ritts has done. It's not rocket surgery.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: tbombz on April 13, 2011, 11:59:39 AM
there does exist

great writing mister college professor  ::)
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: MB on April 13, 2011, 12:09:38 PM
Quote
now! your problem is WIDTH OF CALVICLES,, this is about 60-70% of being a bodybuildrer at the top ,,used to be atleast,,it is eriously 60% ,,take a look at the picture of you with the girl they posted,,your wife whomever she is ,,that female is trying!! to be tiny and small and thin she has no width and guess what? look at her next to you you look like twins in the width department,,its almost like you took picture on the beach and you are the beach body,,

This is important for everyone to know.  The number one asset for bodybuilding potential is shoulder width.  After that is structural proportion (torso, leg, arm length), small waist, and full muscle bellies.  That's why anyone who says "all bodybuilders are flawed, what's the big deal" doesn't know what they're talking about.  Not all flaws are the same.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Parker on April 13, 2011, 12:24:20 PM
Listen to those women.  ;)
The same women will go and grope a muscular man's chest and arms like that "gropey chest guy"...
Or go as far as slapping one's ass to see the tightness...
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: 225for70 on April 13, 2011, 12:29:44 PM
I heard Heath Buy this 50 gallon container worth of insulin at a time.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Meso_z on April 13, 2011, 12:37:05 PM
great writing mister college professor  ::)
rofl
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: affeman on April 13, 2011, 01:36:25 PM
I am trying to understand why there is so much phil heath hate on this board

What are u talkin' about, we love Phil :-X
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 13, 2011, 01:37:18 PM
What are u talkin' about, we love Phil :-X

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=372914.0;attach=409995;image)

Who is that young man? Does he post here?

He looks as if he is in heaven, good for him!  He will never wash that sweater again, guaranteed!

"1"
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: obtuse_waiter on April 13, 2011, 01:37:58 PM
who?

how short? 5-8?
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: affeman on April 13, 2011, 01:38:51 PM
Who is that young man? Does he post here?

He looks as if he is in heaven, good for him!  He will never wash that sweater again, guaranteed!

"1"

Yeah, he goes by the name "kyomu"
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 13, 2011, 01:40:00 PM
I am trying to understand why there is so much phil heath hate on this board, he is a well spoken guy with a great physique, I can understand gh being jealous of phil because after all he is a washed up loser bodybuilder who never achieved anything, and his only joy in life is to talk crap on getbig, he knows a little bit about steroids i will give him that, but you cannot just look at a bodybuilder and know for sure what they are taking i mean come on.

Phil physique has weaknesses but so does every bodybuilder on the planet, Jay is mr o and you can say he is blocky and needs more shape, so whats the big deal, and every top pro bodybuilder takes insulin and gh so that is also not a big deal, fact remains phil heath is a future my O so deal with it.

I think Heath is outstanding
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: BayGBM on April 13, 2011, 03:08:13 PM
How do you notice all that? Now that you point it out, that's very gay.

Whats your deal Phil?

Seriously, how the hell did you notice all that crap?  :-\


It's right in front of you dude, you don't have to be GAY to notice it.

Exactly.  How do you not notice it?  Remember, people wear those accoutrements specifically because they want you to notice it; I believe today's young people call it “bling.”  This is an example of people not seeing what they don’t want to see/know.  These kinds of shall we say, “pregnant” images are all over bodybuilding.  It does not take a genius to notice them or decode them.  As Dr.Chimps said, "It's not rocket surgery."   ::)
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: the trainer on April 13, 2011, 03:38:06 PM
listen retard,,you assume thing,,i state facts about your physiqe,,now philip i will explain to you theproblem you have which has ntohing to do to my placings as pro,,has nothing to do to how good of bodybuild i am ,,i actually placed better than you in a harder era to place and since you have not won o yet multiple times you are not better ...not even on the paper my friend,,,

now! your problem is WIDTH OF CALVICLES,, this is about 60-70% of being a bodybuildrer at the top ,,used to be atleast,,it is eriously 60% ,,take a look at the picture of you with the girl they posted,,your wife whomever she is ,,that female is trying!! to be tiny and small and thin she has no width and guess what? look at her next to you you look like twins in the width department,,its almost like you took picture on the beach and you are the beach body,,

do you think a beach body type of physiqe should become mr o? many fellas on the beach are sliced and seperated...yes they are not blown up but they also do not use insulina and gh out of their ears on a daily basis for years,, so friend you are exactly their width ...

what in your right mind make you think that you can be mr o ? the fact you got good skin ? the fact you got good muscle belloes of the arms ? the fact your delts blew up well on hgh and insulina? the main thing that should be ther eis no there,,,its like house with no underground bunker in ww2 in england where the natzis threw boms right and left,,,what happened to those houses? they were destroyed,,

your luick is this ,,you are competing in an era where the judges dont give a fuck ,,they dont care much for symetry ,,they dont care much for proportions,,they only care about CONDITION AND SHEAR SIZE,,that is your luck my friend,,

i do not hate you ,,not at all ,,i just think you are a wanna be,,a wanna be is a fella that well...want to be a bodybuildr but doesnt have all the tools so he count on outside factors to pull him ahead...its just how you think and how you are my friend,,not hate twards you its more critesizm of the whole system of ifbb today ,,

you dont have much to compete against ,,if denise came up sharp you would be wiped ,,you are not even the ken wheeler of this generation ,,look at ken wheeler HE HAD FOUNDATION to some degree,,he wasnt all fuckin hgh and insulina,,

you are ALL HGH AND INSULINA,, personaly i would put you at 200lb competition weight,,you do know that 5'9 200lb competition weight is pretty much what  you are foundation wize with aas and gh

gh15 approved


 First to begin with you are not in phil heath class, good try on the excuse that you where completing in a hard era, the fact is you where a crappy bodybuilder that is why you did not achieve anything in bodybuilding so i can understand you being bitter. in the early days phil was natural, but then he had to step up the game and take what is necessary just like any body who wants to earn a living as a bodybuilder.

 Bodybuilding is an illusion and the fact is phil does not have any weak bodyparts, some bodybuilders might be wider then him but he beats them on size, shape and just being a sheer freak its not phil fault that his genes is so good that it took him a few years to get to the top of the bodybuiding world.

 No average joe off the street can train for a few years take so juice and be a top bodybuilder, you and i both know that so get real, like i said phil is a future mr o so just deal with it.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: 225for70 on April 13, 2011, 04:13:55 PM

 First to begin with you are not in phil heath class, good try on the excuse that you where completing in a hard era, the fact is you where a crappy bodybuilder that is


Hi the gift, aka Phil
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Shockwave on April 13, 2011, 04:16:23 PM

 First to begin with you are not in phil heath class, good try on the excuse that you where completing in a hard era, the fact is you where a crappy bodybuilder that is why you did not achieve anything in bodybuilding so i can understand you being bitter. in the early days phil was natural, but then he had to step up the game and take what is necessary just like any body who wants to earn a living as a bodybuilder.

 Bodybuilding is an illusion and the fact is phil does not have any weak bodyparts, some bodybuilders might be wider then him but he beats them on size, shape and just being a sheer freak its not phil fault that his genes is so good that it took him a few years to get to the top of the bodybuiding world.

 No average joe off the street can train for a few years take so juice and be a top bodybuilder, you and i both know that so get real, like i said phil is a future mr o so just deal with it.

Go fucking kill yourself, bitch
Unless of course, youre actually Phil Heath.
In that case, quit being a pussy #girl and post under your real acct, otherwise, you should go fucking kill yourself, bitch.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: dyslexic on April 13, 2011, 04:30:42 PM
Wipe that drool of your mouth!  :D

At least tha'ts the only "drool" you can see...
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: BayGBM on April 13, 2011, 04:35:51 PM
At least tha'ts the only "drool" you can see...

ha ha ha ha!  let's keep this rated PG-13!  Remember, body building is a family friendly sport.  ;D
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Bad News Brown on April 13, 2011, 05:00:02 PM

 First to begin with you are not in phil heath class, good try on the excuse that you where completing in a hard era, the fact is you where a crappy bodybuilder that is why you did not achieve anything in bodybuilding so i can understand you being bitter. in the early days phil was natural, but then he had to step up the game and take what is necessary just like any body who wants to earn a living as a bodybuilder.

 Bodybuilding is an illusion and the fact is phil does not have any weak bodyparts, some bodybuilders might be wider then him but he beats them on size, shape and just being a sheer freak its not phil fault that his genes is so good that it took him a few years to get to the top of the bodybuiding world.

 No average joe off the street can train for a few years take so juice and be a top bodybuilder, you and i both know that so get real, like i said phil is a future mr o so just deal with it.


Want some cheese with that WHINE?  :D
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: the_swami on April 13, 2011, 05:28:24 PM
the Hate has obviously got to " The Trainer"
and so has GH 15
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: MB on April 13, 2011, 06:15:21 PM
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like i said phil is a future mr o so just deal with it.

Ask Shawn, Kevin, Flex, and Victor about being next in line.  If anyone comes along with a shred of talent after Jay retires, Phil will not win an Olympia. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: gh15 on April 13, 2011, 06:55:29 PM

 First to begin with you are not in phil heath class, good try on the excuse that you where completing in a hard era, the fact is you where a crappy bodybuilder that is why you did not achieve anything in bodybuilding so i can understand you being bitter. in the early days phil was natural, but then he had to step up the game and take what is necessary just like any body who wants to earn a living as a bodybuilder.

 Bodybuilding is an illusion and the fact is phil does not have any weak bodyparts, some bodybuilders might be wider then him but he beats them on size, shape and just being a sheer freak its not phil fault that his genes is so good that it took him a few years to get to the top of the bodybuiding world.

 No average joe off the street can train for a few years take so juice and be a top bodybuilder, you and i both know that so get real, like i said phil is a future mr o so just deal with it.


if you think you are better than me you sholudl atleast look it,,YOU HAVE NO FUCKIN CALVICLES,,do you understand you look like 17 year old girl in the torse,,as i said before 175lb fellas dont feel small next to you do you know what it means? they see jason ,,they see ron ,,they se dorian they all feel small next to them ,,you just dont have a big big part of the torse which is calvicle width ,,it is not only narrow it is extremly narrow and due to arms being bigger than what they should be DUE TO OIL INSULINA AND GH ...you look like a weird version fo victor richards only vic richards was better proportionate and more symetric ,,

you are a baloon doll my friend,,BALOOONED UP ,,yes you are balooned in the way jason is balooned but! you have no foundation under UNLIKE jason who has it,,the fact you talk abotu you training natural when started lol ,,yes natural fror 5 motnhs on ymca doesnt count ,,and natural is not what im talkin about when i talk foundation ,,when i talk foundation i mean core exercises and long time of doing them and actual serious going into the gym just for the enjoyment of training and just to train inorder to grow,,not with any other purpose in mind,,you just didnt do it and thus didnt built foundation ,,

explanation : you were told you had potential ,,,it got to your head,,you follow like a good fella everything the guru told you about what and how,,you responded well but! you had nothign to build on!!

you are no where near mike francuis ,,no where near dexter jackson ,,no where near lee labrada which was 175lb....no where near gaspari ,,no where near haney ,,no where near levrone ,,no where near dorian ,,no where even remotely close to ron ,,and if you take a look and want to see what foundation is you shoudl look at the lebanon lion called samir...THAT! is foundation my friend,,it doesnt go away ,,you dont train or take hormones for 6 months you become a girly man at 175 lb ,,and not 6% anything ,,

you got good skin tone ,,you got good arms ,,thats where it end with foundation ,,you lack in every other aspect,,and the only reason you wil have chance to hold title is because you belong in generation where drugs is everything and anything,,and when i say that i mean that..so you are one of a pack of fellas who are really not impressive,,take aside a few that need tune ups like denise wolf whi coudl wipe the floor with you if came on spot and he HAS FOUNDATION!

you are now marketded as product ,,they wil use you and abuse you and moment you show weakness they wil drop you ,,the problem is with you weakness will come fast because you have no calvicles width and you only rsespond well if the exact hormones are in the system because NO FOUNDATION,,all th eothers branch jason they all have years of foundation under them ,,yes they suck due to insulina and hgh abuse but! they have foundation under,,you take your cookies out my friend and you are left with no air in the muscle ,,because you are blown with air in the muscle ,,it is not real muscle i keep tellin it  here over and over,,
bodybuilding is indeed illusion but you have to have the MUSCLE ,,in your case it is insulina and gh that blew you up from lean size but it was doen so fast that the muscle didnt get there ,,it is  basically like mishko fellas that he trained with better muscle shape,,


you are right about the illusion ...you are illusion and this is why the judges are fucked,,many of them see you are a bad version of flex wheeler....but in reality they cant do anything when they have kai green coming in with 38 inch bloated waist,,


gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: the trainer on April 14, 2011, 10:22:25 AM
if you think you are better than me you sholudl atleast look it,,YOU HAVE NO FUCKIN CALVICLES,,do you understand you look like 17 year old girl in the torse,,as i said before 175lb fellas dont feel small next to you do you know what it means? they see jason ,,they see ron ,,they se dorian they all feel small next to them ,,you just dont have a big big part of the torse which is calvicle width ,,it is not only narrow it is extremly narrow and due to arms being bigger than what they should be DUE TO OIL INSULINA AND GH ...you look like a weird version fo victor richards only vic richards was better proportionate and more symetric ,,

you are a baloon doll my friend,,BALOOONED UP ,,yes you are balooned in the way jason is balooned but! you have no foundation under UNLIKE jason who has it,,the fact you talk abotu you training natural when started lol ,,yes natural fror 5 motnhs on ymca doesnt count ,,and natural is not what im talkin about when i talk foundation ,,when i talk foundation i mean core exercises and long time of doing them and actual serious going into the gym just for the enjoyment of training and just to train inorder to grow,,not with any other purpose in mind,,you just didnt do it and thus didnt built foundation ,,

explanation : you were told you had potential ,,,it got to your head,,you follow like a good fella everything the guru told you about what and how,,you responded well but! you had nothign to build on!!

you are no where near mike francuis ,,no where near dexter jackson ,,no where near lee labrada which was 175lb....no where near gaspari ,,no where near haney ,,no where near levrone ,,no where near dorian ,,no where even remotely close to ron ,,and if you take a look and want to see what foundation is you shoudl look at the lebanon lion called samir...THAT! is foundation my friend,,it doesnt go away ,,you dont train or take hormones for 6 months you become a girly man at 175 lb ,,and not 6% anything ,,

you got good skin tone ,,you got good arms ,,thats where it end with foundation ,,you lack in every other aspect,,and the only reason you wil have chance to hold title is because you belong in generation where drugs is everything and anything,,and when i say that i mean that..so you are one of a pack of fellas who are really not impressive,,take aside a few that need tune ups like denise wolf whi coudl wipe the floor with you if came on spot and he HAS FOUNDATION!

you are now marketded as product ,,they wil use you and abuse you and moment you show weakness they wil drop you ,,the problem is with you weakness will come fast because you have no calvicles width and you only rsespond well if the exact hormones are in the system because NO FOUNDATION,,all th eothers branch jason they all have years of foundation under them ,,yes they suck due to insulina and hgh abuse but! they have foundation under,,you take your cookies out my friend and you are left with no air in the muscle ,,because you are blown with air in the muscle ,,it is not real muscle i keep tellin it  here over and over,,
bodybuilding is indeed illusion but you have to have the MUSCLE ,,in your case it is insulina and gh that blew you up from lean size but it was doen so fast that the muscle didnt get there ,,it is  basically like mishko fellas that he trained with better muscle shape,,


you are right about the illusion ...you are illusion and this is why the judges are fucked,,many of them see you are a bad version of flex wheeler....but in reality they cant do anything when they have kai green coming in with 38 inch bloated waist,,


gh15 approved


What is your obsession with calvicles, kevin levrone was not a wide bodybuilder so he made up for that by building freaky delts and he was a mr o runner up many times, every bodybuilder on the planet has a weakness so i do not think that is the issue, the issue is phil heath did not spend years training away in the gym and slowly work his way up, he was so gifted that it took him only a few years to get to the top.

   Now that pissed off a lot of bodybuilders who spent years training and take the same things that phil is taking and cannot even place in a bodybuilding show and the fans for those bodybuilders are pissed off as well. So the only thing left to do is to hate on phil and bash phil.
   When dorian was on top people where bashing him, when ronnie was on top people where bashing him, so maybe phil should start taking it as a complement that he is getting bashed by the haters because he is on top number 2 in the world and the future mr o.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Dr Dutch on April 14, 2011, 10:24:28 AM
Who is that young man? Does he post here?

He looks as if he is in heaven, good for him!  He will never wash that sweater again, guaranteed!

"1"
It matches perfectly with the underwear he bought from Nasser.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: gh15 on April 14, 2011, 10:30:07 AM

What is your obsession with calvicles, kevin levrone was not a wide bodybuilder so he made up for that by building freaky delts and he was a mr o runner up many times, every bodybuilder on the planet has a weakness so i do not think that is the issue, the issue is phil heath did not spend years training away in the gym and slowly work his way up, he was so gifted that it took him only a few years to get to the top.

   Now that pissed off a lot of bodybuilders who spent years training and take the same things that phil is taking and cannot even place in a bodybuilding show and the fans for those bodybuilders are pissed off as well. So the only thing left to do is to hate on phil and bash phil.
   When dorian was on top people where bashing him, when ronnie was on top people where bashing him, so maybe phil should start taking it as a complement that he is getting bashed by the haters because he is on top number 2 in the world and the future mr o.

did you just compare phiilip heath to dorian yates? maybe i didnt read it right since you know english not my stronger side... you just fuckin compared phil heath to dorian yates lol,,phillip heath is not even in the sphere of dorian yates not even in the same leage it is liek 3 leagues under  its just not comparable ,,not to dorian and nto to ron and nto to levron eiehter,,go take a look at levrone pecs...chest...he didnt have wide calvicles but he made heath look like a kid  lol phil heath has GIRL CALVICLES,,levrone just had narrower but not girl calvicles,,kevin was proportionate yes his calvicles were not wide as much as wider bodybuilders but they were nto extremly narrow,,

phil heath calvicles match a 5'3 liar priest do you get it? i think even priest has wider calvicles the diff is phiilip heath is 5'10 or 5'9 or inbetween there


gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: MB on April 14, 2011, 10:45:25 AM

What is your obsession with calvicles, kevin levrone was not a wide bodybuilder so he made up for that by building freaky delts and he was a mr o runner up many times, every bodybuilder on the planet has a weakness so i do not think that is the issue, the issue is phil heath did not spend years training away in the gym and slowly work his way up, he was so gifted that it took him only a few years to get to the top.

   Now that pissed off a lot of bodybuilders who spent years training and take the same things that phil is taking and cannot even place in a bodybuilding show and the fans for those bodybuilders are pissed off as well. So the only thing left to do is to hate on phil and bash phil.
   When dorian was on top people where bashing him, when ronnie was on top people where bashing him, so maybe phil should start taking it as a complement that he is getting bashed by the haters because he is on top number 2 in the world and the future mr o.

Not all issues are the same.  I can't think of one pro who is narrower than Heath.  Girl clavicles. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: smoothasf on April 14, 2011, 11:05:42 AM
I think a Mr o with big muscles on a small frame is what is needed instead of these big block chunks of unproportionate meat.3-5 years and heath will have mature muscle and look insane. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Shockwave on April 14, 2011, 11:09:23 AM

What is your obsession with calvicles, kevin levrone was not a wide bodybuilder so he made up for that by building freaky delts and he was a mr o runner up many times, every bodybuilder on the planet has a weakness so i do not think that is the issue, the issue is phil heath did not spend years training away in the gym and slowly work his way up, he was so gifted that it took him only a few years to get to the top.

   Now that pissed off a lot of bodybuilders who spent years training and take the same things that phil is taking and cannot even place in a bodybuilding show and the fans for those bodybuilders are pissed off as well. So the only thing left to do is to hate on phil and bash phil.
   When dorian was on top people where bashing him, when ronnie was on top people where bashing him, so maybe phil should start taking it as a complement that he is getting bashed by the haters because he is on top number 2 in the world and the future mr o.
Hahahah.
Heath looks good yes, but has the width of a 5yr old girl, and it shows whenever he stands next to others.
As of right now, Heath is destined to be a bridesmaid, the next Flex in the making. And reading posts like this, I hope he is destined to be damned to 2nd place for his career. I would laugh so f'in hard.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: smoothasf on April 14, 2011, 11:27:29 AM
Easy gh15 your giving your identity away blatantly, you always do this when you get carried away talking to other pros. Remember there have only been 4 o's in the last 20 years.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: socalfit24 on April 14, 2011, 11:32:20 AM
GH15-

You do make some points and Heath does have narrow clavicles but one thing for sure he is a top bodybuilder and will win the Mr. Olympia weak field or not.  He should have won this year.  I am up front and close at the Olympia every year and when Phil came out this year he dominated.  His muscle pops and is overpowering so for all that narrow clavicle talk it doesnt prevent him from having great stage presence.  Nooone on the Olympia stage has that overpowering pop to their muscle.  The exact opposite of a Dillett that flexes and has nothing Phil's muscle onstage looks like it is going to explode.  He is conditioned and the muscles are overpowering.  Yes he does look like crap as a puffy bloated offseason bodybuilder that is blown up on gh and insulin but on stage at the O he looks great and anyone that denies that does not know bodybuilding period.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: gh15 on April 14, 2011, 11:53:02 AM
GH15-

You do make some points and Heath does have narrow clavicles but one thing for sure he is a top bodybuilder and will win the Mr. Olympia weak field or not.  He should have won this year.  I am up front and close at the Olympia every year and when Phil came out this year he dominated.  His muscle pops and is overpowering so for all that narrow clavicle talk it doesnt prevent him from having great stage presence.  Nooone on the Olympia stage has that overpowering pop to their muscle.  The exact opposite of a Dillett that flexes and has nothing Phil's muscle onstage looks like it is going to explode.  He is conditioned and the muscles are overpowering.  Yes he does look like crap as a puffy bloated offseason bodybuilder that is blown up on gh and insulin but on stage at the O he looks great and anyone that denies that does not know bodybuilding period.

i kept saying he will win a title,,i dont thikn he deserve it ...but he wil win it due to the generation he competes in ,,it is not because of amazing physiqe,,if you take a line of ron dorian haney arnold zane sergio and samir....phil would not make it in that line ,,his physiqe is as good as kim hardashian behinds....it is good for this generation of nothignness .... but its not good enough in the over all comparison to past generations aka ron colman dorian franz zane sergio arnold,,

the reason i say kim kardershian is because i dont even know who she is ,,the name is just catchy and its easy to say lol ,,its like generation of nothings ,,no one does nothing to get anywhere you just knwo names with out actualy what the fella did to get where he is ,,,its a generation thing  friend

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 14, 2011, 01:23:14 PM
GH15-

You do make some points and Heath does have narrow clavicles but one thing for sure he is a top bodybuilder and will win the Mr. Olympia weak field or not.  He should have won this year.  I am up front and close at the Olympia every year and when Phil came out this year he dominated.  His muscle pops and is overpowering so for all that narrow clavicle talk it doesnt prevent him from having great stage presence.  Nooone on the Olympia stage has that overpowering pop to their muscle.  The exact opposite of a Dillett that flexes and has nothing Phil's muscle onstage looks like it is going to explode.  He is conditioned and the muscles are overpowering.  Yes he does look like crap as a puffy bloated offseason bodybuilder that is blown up on gh and insulin but on stage at the O he looks great and anyone that denies that does not know bodybuilding period.
phil heath without those arms?
= nothing... everyone is just mesmerized by his arms and thats it ....
personally and on wolf dexter victor zillion times better
leverone good shouders tris abs
coleman good chest back greatest ams ever insane legs
phill heath arms? thats it
if his arms were in propostion to his torso we wouldnt even know who he is
lets be real
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Parker on April 14, 2011, 01:28:43 PM
phil heath without those arms?
= nothing... everyone is just mesmerized by his arms and thats it ....
personally and on wolf dexter victor zillion times better
leverone good shouders tris abs
coleman good chest back greatest ams ever insane legs
phill heath arms? thats it
if his arms were in propostion to his torso we wouldnt even know who he is
lets be real
Phil Heath has exceptional back detail, and one of the few that can actually do a X-mas tree pose and look good. His BDB pose is about the best out there today.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: tbombz on April 14, 2011, 01:30:10 PM
phil is complete from head to toe; with insane size, fullness, roundness, striations, detail and aesthetics.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 14, 2011, 01:32:51 PM
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_O5C0240.jpg)

these two pics below is what a MM shot should look like notice
A CHEST is involved and is a rquisite

(http://g.imagehost.org/0448/Dennis_Wolf.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/thita16/RonnieColeman36.jpg)
what annoys me is when you hear judges say heaths most muscular is amazing when his arms completley over power his chest...
 ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: TRIX on April 14, 2011, 01:33:34 PM
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_P8C3559wtmk.JPG)
(http://www.nationnews.com/images/cached/inc/uploads/articles/jay_and_phil-450x350.jpg)
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/vlcsnap-2010-09-25-15h34m57s45.png)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/vlcsnap-2010-09-25-15h34m45s183.png)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/vlcsnap-2010-09-25-15h34m02s12.png)
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 14, 2011, 01:34:41 PM
Phil Heath has exceptional back detail, and one of the few that can actually do a X-mas tree pose and look good. His BDB pose is about the best out there today.

deoes he have a better back than an on victor or dexter?/???????? no
so why is he a gift because he has huge arms...
i keep saying bbing needs to get over its arm fixation...
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: gh15 on April 14, 2011, 02:01:47 PM
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_P8C3559wtmk.JPG)
(http://www.nationnews.com/images/cached/inc/uploads/articles/jay_and_phil-450x350.jpg)
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take a look in that stage,,,look at dexter! this is what bodybuild look like,,even jason that look horrid but still got foundation ,,take a look at phillip heath though...muscle is not there...BALOOONED UP it is blown up from within ,,even the arms are not big muscle wize they are seo enhanced,,this fella if win o will be a joke for generations really ,,if judges really will let him win it will be spit int he face of better way better than him who came before,,this is not sean ray vs jason cutler here,,this is someone who doesnt have foundation ,,look at the blow up points...it is marshmelow blow up insulina like,,yes he is low bodyfat and thats why you see the seperation and some hardness because hardness will come if you put in conditioon ,,but what he has as condition there IS NOT REAL MUSCLE ,,it is blow up air into skin and pretty small muscles,,

this is fake ,,this is not real this is a combo between brazilian fellas with synthol and bodybuild ,,he look weak,,he IS weak ,,he cant lift for shit,,i would give lot of money if i see this fella EVER squat 6 plates 45s each side of a bar for 10 reps,,but yes bodybuild dont squat ok ,,

he look weak ,,he look fake,,he look like small godo muscle shape was blown up with air seo and insulina gh combos to be this balooned up shiney material ,,it just doesnt look right ,, judges shoudl not be blind ,,this does not look right,,

s e p e r a t i o n is genetics andalso a dependent of low bodyfat!

his diamaeter of muscle is a result of blow up gh insulina seo combos and not absolitly not gym time


gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Nails on April 14, 2011, 02:23:35 PM
(http://www.muscle-build.com/images/dexter-jackson.jpg)


Phil will be the Next Mr O, if not this year then next


(http://www.muscletech.com/images/homepage/phil_signs/ath_phil_heath_img2.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: MB on April 14, 2011, 02:40:55 PM
Phil will be the Next Mr O, if not this year then next

I'm not seeing it, too narrow up top.  Especially poor in the FDB and RLS. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: the trainer on April 14, 2011, 03:22:55 PM
did you just compare phiilip heath to dorian yates? maybe i didnt read it right since you know english not my stronger side... you just fuckin compared phil heath to dorian yates lol,,phillip heath is not even in the sphere of dorian yates not even in the same leage it is liek 3 leagues under  its just not comparable ,,not to dorian and nto to ron and nto to levron eiehter,,go take a look at levrone pecs...chest...he didnt have wide calvicles but he made heath look like a kid  lol phil heath has GIRL CALVICLES,,levrone just had narrower but not girl calvicles,,kevin was proportionate yes his calvicles were not wide as much as wider bodybuilders but they were nto extremly narrow,,

phil heath calvicles match a 5'3 liar priest do you get it? i think even priest has wider calvicles the diff is phiilip heath is 5'10 or 5'9 or inbetween there

  
gh15 approved

You must be blind or in your years of completing you fail to understand what bodybuilding it all about, its about filling out your structure with freaky size and shape without destroying your lines and no gh gut, no human being can make their structure wider but you can make it big and freaky. look at phil physique he has no weak bodyparts and no nasty gh gut hanging out like some other bodybuilders. His physique is about as perfect as a bodybuilder can be and that is why he is the next mr o.
 And for your info phil can stand next to any bodybuilder from any age and hold his own.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Parker on April 14, 2011, 03:33:51 PM

deoes he have a better back than an on victor or dexter?/???????? no
so why is he a gift because he has huge arms...
i keep saying bbing needs to get over its arm fixation...

Vic of today is not the Vic of 2007, and Dex, well has lost his razor sharpness,
so, yes Phil has a better back...

I can't post up the pics, but Phil has a better back, I think the 2010 Arnold and Mr. O showed this.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 14, 2011, 03:37:01 PM
They don't like him because he is too small where it counts!  :D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=372914.0;attach=409966;image)

His chest is like a FBB with implants
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 14, 2011, 03:38:29 PM
You must be blind or in your years of completing you fail to understand what bodybuilding it all about, its about filling out your structure with freaky size and shape without destroying your lines and no gh gut, no human being can make their structure wider but you can make it big and freaky. look at phil physique he has no weak bodyparts and no nasty gh gut hanging out like some other bodybuilders. His physique is about as perfect as a bodybuilder can be and that is why he is the next mr o.
 And for your info phil can stand next to any bodybuilder from any age and hold his own.
hold his own against a prime ronnie..dillet nasser.... cormier or wheeler...
no...
for the record no one held their own against a prime ronnie... and still no one has come since to do so...
take away the arms...
and?
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 14, 2011, 03:40:44 PM
hold his own against a prime ronnie..dillet nasser.... cormier or wheeler...
no...
for the record no one held their own against a prime ronnie... and still no one has come since to do so...
take away the arms...
and?

Bullshit , Flex gave prime Ronnie ( 1998 ) a real run for his money and we're not talking Flex 1993 either
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 14, 2011, 03:40:45 PM
(http://www.muscle-build.com/images/dexter-jackson.jpg)


Phil will be the Next Mr O, if not this year then next


(http://www.muscletech.com/images/homepage/phil_signs/ath_phil_heath_img2.jpg)
I've lost my faith in the IFBB, well I never had it LOL, so I guess you're correct
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: kiwiol on April 14, 2011, 03:49:05 PM
Vic of today is not the Vic of 2007, and Dex, well has lost his razor sharpness,
so, yes Phil has a better back...

I can't post up the pics, but Phil has a better back, I think the 2010 Arnold and Mr. O showed this.

Spot on. Dex hit his peak a few years ago and has been on the decline since then. Same goes for Vic.

Phil's physique is far superior to both of theirs, esp. in the back poses.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 14, 2011, 03:50:25 PM
Spot on. Dex hit his peak a few years ago and has been on the decline since then. Same goes for Vic.

Phil's physique is far superior to both of theirs, esp. in the back poses.

Other than clavicle width he has the least amount of flaws out of them as well
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 14, 2011, 03:52:19 PM
Bullshit , Flex gave prime Ronnie ( 1998 ) a real run for his money and we're not talking Flex 1993 either
our opinion of prime ronnie differs.. i dont think its 1998 your intotled to having your opinion
but im not gonna get drawn into a debate about it.... but the videos show ronnie completely blowing flex away 98 99 and so on
but flex would give 90% of  bbers in his prime problems....
personally i dont think phil is anywhere close to flex anyway
....
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: che on April 14, 2011, 03:56:17 PM
your intotled

 ???
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 14, 2011, 03:56:33 PM
our opinion of prime ronnie differs.. i dont think its 1998 your intotled to having your opinion
but im not gonna get drawn into a debate about it.... but the videos show ronnie completely blowing flex away 98 99 and so on
but flex would give 90% of  bbers in his prime problems....
personally i dont think phil is anywhere close to flex anyway
....


Ronnie himself said 1998 was his best and Ronnie did NOT blow away Flex in 98 , maybe 1999 but please don't try and rewrite history

Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Parker on April 14, 2011, 03:58:51 PM
Just noticed that Jay and Phil do their lat spreads diff (at least in that pic)...Jay does his staight up, which washes his lower (and subpar) back detail out. Phil rounds his back, which causes him to lose about a inch in height, but shows lower back thickness.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 14, 2011, 04:06:38 PM
Ronnie himself said 1998 was his best and Ronnie did NOT blow away Flex in 98 , maybe 1999 but please don't try and rewrite history


please refer to previous post no debate
bbing is about opinion...
you keep yours.... and ill keep mine...
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Parker on April 14, 2011, 04:07:17 PM
our opinion of prime ronnie differs.. i dont think its 1998 your intotled to having your opinion
but im not gonna get drawn into a debate about it.... but the videos show ronnie completely blowing flex away 98 99 and so on
but flex would give 90% of  bbers in his prime problems....
personally i donta think phil is anywhere close to flex anyway
....

Ronnie blew people away in 98 with his conditioning, Flex was a tad off, but Flex's shape is what carries him thru...had Flex been in his 98 Arnold shape, he probably would have won. As Chris Cormier had said, Flex has a mystique about him, he called it the "Flex Wheeler mystique" back in 2000, when he lost to Flex at the 2000 Arnold.
This "mystique" carries Flex, as well as his shape...when you look at the 98 vid, Ronnie had detail popping out all over the place, but Flex who did had detail, was softer in te lower back, glutes, and hams, and that was his deathknell, plus his ass cheated on his diet...
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 14, 2011, 04:11:48 PM
flex just always look soft compared to ronn
abd ron was quite bigger...
flex had greats hape though...
i know your an arm guy parker... and a phil fan but for me a lot of the phill hype is just due to his arms
ronne had the greatest arms imo  greatest back plus super delts chest and legs...
take the arms away and phil is a middle weight....

Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Parker on April 14, 2011, 04:36:53 PM
flex just always look soft compared to ronn
abd ron was quite bigger...
flex had greats hape though...
i know your an arm guy parker... and a phil fan but for me a lot of the phill hype is just due to his arms
ronne had the greatest arms imo  greatest back plus super delts chest and legs...
take the arms away and phil is a middle weight....


True, Flex was pretty much softer than Ronnie, it pretty much started back in 96, when Flex lost to Ronnie at the Canadian Cup, then Flex won at the NOC...this was a harbinger of things to come. Flex's best weapon was his shape, it carried him thru, like Melvin Anthony after him, both when they were not on the mark, their shape brought them thru.

True, I am a arm guy, and Phil fan, and true, the hype is is arms, which are not as big they seem, but due to their detail and full Levrone-like tris, that is his calling card...but, has striated full quads, good hams, great calves, awesome forearms, good lats for his width, great delts and traps, okay, but striated chest, decent (4 pack) abs.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Secret Stack on April 15, 2011, 11:31:23 AM
this clip from 1:47 has this very thread written all over it.

gh15: i dont mean to cut you off,,,but i mean you lookin pretty swole these days,,,what you weighing at?

phil heath: nah...im small compared to some of these other cats from what they say on the internet.

gh15: nah,,,don't listen to them,,,i know what im lookin at! what do you weigh in right now?

phil heath: 265...

gh15: 265! and thats like,,,you look like you a few weeks out bro,,

(take a look at phil's condition in the clip and you will see gh15 is poking fun at him)

phil heath: no!!

gh15: ,,,well you dont look like the phil heath were used to seein in the offseason,,thats for sure

phil heath: hell no, those days are done! alot of people are like "oh yeah he gets so puffy" and this and that in the offseason...those days are done.

gh15 continues to question phil and go on to talk about the olympia.
 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Shockwave on April 15, 2011, 11:39:34 AM
All internet trolling aside,
Heath is a likeable guy, has IMHO top 2 physiques AT THE CURRENT TIME, and should be Mr Olympia.
Its just too bad he has the extreme insulin abuse look, the muscles looking like there ballooned out from the inside even when hes shredded, but hell, I guess its just the times were in now.
The Trainer is a fag though.
If its Heath, he should quit being a pussy and actually post under his own account, as it is now, "The Trainer" is either the gayest fanboy of all time, or if its really Heath, makes him look like a freakishly insecure d-bag with NO confidence in himself.
Hopefully its just a flamboyantly gay fanboy.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: el numero uno on April 15, 2011, 12:03:36 PM
All internet trolling aside,
Heath is a likeable guy, has IMHO top 2 physiques AT THE CURRENT TIME, and should be Mr Olympia.
Its just too bad he has the extreme insulin abuse look, the muscles looking like there ballooned out from the inside even when hes shredded, but hell, I guess its just the times were in now.
The Trainer is a fag though.
If its Heath, he should quit being a pussy and actually post under his own account, as it is now, "The Trainer" is either the gayest fanboy of all time, or if its really Heath, makes him look like a freakishly insecure d-bag with NO confidence in himself.
Hopefully its just a flamboyantly gay fanboy.

IMO the trainer sounds more like a schmoe, I don't think is Heat, he reminds me of ND, Hulkster and team nasser  :D
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: el numero uno on April 15, 2011, 12:06:01 PM
this clip from 1:47 has this very thread written all over it.

gh15: i dont mean to cut you off,,,but i mean you lookin pretty swole these days,,,what you weighing at?

phil heath: nah...im small compared to some of these other cats from what they say on the internet.

gh15: nah,,,don't listen to them,,,i know what im lookin at! what do you weigh in right now?

phil heath: 265...

gh15: 265! and thats like,,,you look like you a few weeks out bro,,

(take a look at phil's condition in the clip and you will see gh15 is poking fun at him)

phil heath: no!!

gh15: ,,,well you dont look like the phil heath were used to seein in the offseason,,thats for sure

phil heath: hell no, those days are done! alot of people are like "oh yeah he gets so puffy" and this and that in the offseason...those days are done.

gh15 continues to question phil and go on to talk about the olympia.
 ;D ;D ;D




He looks pissed off at the beginning of the vid, it's almost like he is talking with someone from getbig   ;D
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 15, 2011, 12:09:31 PM
He looks pissed off at the beginning of the vid, it's almost like he is talking with someone from getbig   ;D


Is the guy interviewing him this guy?

(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/marcello.jpg)


Ohh shit, this is was too funny. He is a Nasser Schmoe.  :D

Hi Nasser! how are you?
Do not write in English, is that you know to speak several languages, I hope one of them is Spanish.
First of all I want you to know I am a great admirer of yours, I'm Marcelo de Buenos Aires, I have 41 years and trained for 10 years. I am a firm admirer of yours, would give anything to meet you personally, to shake your hand and touch those biceps so big that you have. Know that it's persona non grata to me you're not. To me you are a very cool and honest.
I would like to see how you train, I have some of your videos and they're great.
You know, I love you, but do not know me personally realize the kind of person you are. Nasser Please take care of people because a lot of envy.
I want you to know that here in Buenos Aires (CHIVILCOY) have a friend for what you need, count on me for whatever you want. I love you and buttonhole to meeting you and shaking our hands, I congratulate you on your career, your fitness is impressive, I like to see more and more strong and big, my dream is to meet and hug.
Thanks for your time if you get to read this letter, if you were to write me would die with excitement.
I will scratch out this dude's name because this is just weird.  :-\
Chivilcoy - Buenos Aires - Argentina.

PD. I know that I send a picture of me.
 :D :D

For you spanish speaking folks.  :D :D
Hola Nasser! como estas?
No se escribir en ingles, se que tu sabes hablar varios idiomas, espero que uno de ellos sea el espańol.
Antes que nada quiero que sepas que soy un gran admirador tuyo, soy Marcelo de Buenos Aires , tengo 41 ańos y entreno desde hace 10 ańos. Soy un fiel admirador tuyo, daria lo que fuera para conocerte personalmente, poder darte la mano y tocar esos biceps que tan grandes tienes. Quiero que sepas que eso de Persona no Grata para mi no lo eres. Para mi eres una persona muy cool y honesto.
Me gustaria ver como entrenas, tengo algunos de tus videos y son geniales.
Sabes una cosa, te quiero mucho , aunque no te conozca en persona me doy cuenta de la clase de persona que eres. Por favor Nasser cuidate de la gente porque hay mucha envidia.
Quiero que sepas que aqui en Buenos Aires (CHIVILCOY) tienes un amigo para lo que necesites, cuenta conmigo para lo que quieras. Te quiero mucho y hojala pueda conocerte en persona y estrechar nuestras manos, te felicito por tu carrera, es impresionante tu forma fisica, me gusta verte cada vez mas fuerte y grandote, mi sueńo es conocerte y abrazarte.
Gracias por tu tiempo si llegas a leer esta carta, si me llegaras a escribir moriria de la emocion.

Chivilcoy – Buenos Aires – Argentina.

PD. para que me conozcas te envio una foto mia.

I cannot even the shit that Bay knows.  :-\

Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Shockwave on April 15, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
He looks pissed off at the beginning of the vid, it's almost like he is talking with someone from getbig   ;D
You can tell he reads getbig. Hahaha. From his body language when he talks about being puffy, you can tell that the shit he reads gets to him.
If I was a Pro, I would definatley NOT get on these boards if things people said got to me at all, asking for nothing but problems. Especially the amount of people that will tear someone apart simply because its the internet and they can get away with it, or because it makes them laugh to see someone have an emotional breakdown from things that they said. (Of which Im guilty, its really pretty fucked up when you think about it.)

The internet has created a fucked up society.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: dr.chimps on April 15, 2011, 12:22:16 PM

Is the guy interviewing him this guy?

(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/marcello.jpg)

 :D :D
You laugh, but someone here is gonna download this pic to their hard drive. Oh, wait.    ;D
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: G_Thang on April 15, 2011, 12:53:25 PM
The Trainer is a fag though.

one of jay's fan boys.  post one of jay's complete vids on youtube, post the link on this board,  and see how fast it is reported.  these guys go back to jay and say what we post.  in a vid jay says he doesn't go to this site because the users talk about how.  how would he know about the frig stuff? 
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: smoothasf on April 15, 2011, 02:06:18 PM
Id rather Phil or a conditioned dexter win every day of the week over the other train wrecks. At least they have symmetry and proportion
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: the trainer on April 15, 2011, 02:40:24 PM
All internet trolling aside,
Heath is a likeable guy, has IMHO top 2 physiques AT THE CURRENT TIME, and should be Mr Olympia.
Its just too bad he has the extreme insulin abuse look, the muscles looking like there ballooned out from the inside even when hes shredded, but hell, I guess its just the times were in now.
The Trainer is a fag though.
If its Heath, he should quit being a pussy and actually post under his own account, as it is now, "The Trainer" is either the gayest fanboy of all time, or if its really Heath, makes him look like a freakishly insecure d-bag with NO confidence in himself.
Hopefully its just a flamboyantly gay fanboy.

 I am not phil i am just a dude around the bodybuilding scene, met phil a few times and he is a cool guy and a great bodybuilder, nothing is wrong with making some constructive criticism but gh and some of his followers go overboard on bashing phil, now i know he is jealous of phil because he feels that phil did not pay his dues by training for years without getting anywhere. but if the guy has the talent to be a top bodybuilder in a few years why hate on him.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: gh15 on April 15, 2011, 04:18:55 PM

I am not phil i am just a dude around the bodybuilding scene, met phil a few times and he is a cool guy and a great bodybuilder, nothing is wrong with making some constructive criticism but gh and some of his followers go overboard on bashing phil, now i know he is jealous of phil because he feels that phil did not pay his dues by training for years without getting anywhere. but if the guy has the talent to be a top bodybuilder in a few years why hate on him.

i keep teling you i dont hate the fella,,if its you or not dont matterr to me,,what i say is critisizm on profesional level,,he is what we call all drugs,,

i devide the bodybuilding to 3 groups ,,

hard working with foundation and with drugs  group 1


easy working with no foundation and with drugs group 2


drug addicts with no foundation what so ever that respond well or nto well dont matter they never make it group 3


group 1 = ron and dorian


group 2 = mustaf and putnam etc

group 3 = palumbo,,kovaks,,trey brewer,,etc

philip heath belong in group 2,,he will do well due to the generation he is part of not because he himself is outstanding bodybuilder because he is t! he has no foundation he has no calvicles,,his pecs width resembelea girl ,,do you wanna stand infront of your mr o and hide him? dont think so ,,

never the less i said before he will be rewarded because of the genration he is part of

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Lift Studios on April 15, 2011, 04:43:49 PM
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Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: tendonitis on April 15, 2011, 04:59:41 PM
Yes, calling oneself "The Gift" is the height of doucheness.
Yes, posing with some money is also high on the douchebag scale.
Being chosen by the industry as the next big thing before even winning your pro card always pisses some people off too.

But I don't think people really hate Phil, they hate what bodybuilding has become and he's sort of the posterboy for it.
He's a guy who started lifting weights 15 minutes ago, jumped on the ENTIRE stack of every PED known to man from the get-go and piled a ton of DRUG muscle onto a small frame. To a lot of people that's not bodybuilding. To the IFBB it is.

Phil's physique isn't what I want in a Mr. Olympia, those fucked up pecs and narrow clavicles ruin too many of the front poses for me, but in the current shit crop of competitors we have today he's certainly one of the best and will be Mr. Olympia very soon.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Nails on April 15, 2011, 05:05:43 PM
Yes, calling oneself "The Gift" is the height of doucheness.
Yes, posing with some money is also high on the douchebag scale.
Being chosen by the industry as the next big thing before even winning your pro card always pisses some people off too.

But I don't think people really hate Phil, they hate what bodybuilding has become and he's sort of the posterboy for it.
He's a guy who started lifting weights 15 minutes ago, jumped on the ENTIRE stack of every PED known to man from the get-go and piled a ton of DRUG muscle onto a small frame. To a lot of people that's not bodybuilding. To the IFBB it is.

Phil's physique isn't what I want in a Mr. Olympia, those fucked up pecs and narrow clavicles ruin too many of the front poses for me, but in the current shit crop of competitors we have today he's certainly one of the best and will be Mr. Olympia very soon.

Like the self proclaimed BLACK MAMBA  ::)


and calling a ref a FU CKING F A G G O T   ::) ::) ::)

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Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: mrco95 on April 15, 2011, 05:49:07 PM
Ok this is so ludicrous the way GH-15 and others put Phil down??
Look at what you are saying and if you are such an expert then critique and say things that are true and relevant!!! He is not a terrible BB! He is one of the best today and from the past!!

Phil is a great BB no matter how you judge him! Does he have a weak chest? Maybe so compared to other body parts! You say Wolf and Vic and Samir and others are way better?? Really?? Come on!! Samir?? would or should wipe Phil up!!!! What about Wolfs calves? Back insertions? lack of size at some shows? Does that make him a shitty BB? No way he is one of the top Pros! They all have weakness's but don't put Phil down and overlook all the other BB with weak parts also! Last time I checked Phil is still winning or beating most of the others at every show! Jays back is weak in the detail and waist is blocky! Vic? Terrible calves, conditioning sucks, legs are weak etc etc!!! Samir? He was all back and when I trained next to him for a cpl years in late 80s and early 90's he trained like a pussy!! He was not even close to Phil or most of the top BB today! That doesn't make him a a bad BB tho! He was good BB with some weak parts but put it all together one time and it paid off! Its a competition! Some days you have it and other days you don't! Phil is not all arms either! has great legs, shoulders, calves, great back dbl Bi, smaller chest yes!! But better then most overall!! What about guys like Lee Labrada/ he was great but small! Ray was great but he wasn't huge either and he was not that wide!Anyways phil is not all drugs! I saw him train over his first 2-3 years  and he was always solid and trained hard and grew fast but not any different then the top guys from the last 10 years! He did respond and move up faster then most and i think that is why people are so jealous i guess! Give him a break! he is great BB and is not a drugged out loser, weirdo like alot of the past and current pros! He works hard and promotes himself and earns a great living, trying to do it the right way! unlike alot of them that are total IV druggies, closet sell outs, living the dream in some run down Venice Apartment spending there every last dime on Narcotics and Roids, or so strung out there killing people and dumping there bodies in the desert!! In my opinion Phil heath is a great face for the BB world and everyone knows that and he will be Mr O and he deserves it and has moved up through the ranks fast but who the hell gives a shit! He looks good and obviously has had a great career so far and I have a feeling much better success all around then GH-15 or most of the other has been washed up BB on here whose whole life is finding ways to bash Phil and the other top guys cause they never made it or are just so insecure about there pathetic lives that they have to post negative shit to make themselves feel better! Anyways im an old washed up, never made it BB but at least I moved on when I realized I wasnt going to be a Pro BB or able to make a living directly, so I made a life! Get over it, Phil is the next Mr O and rightfully deserves it!!! So GH-15 show us who you really are and lets see if you were anyone that was anywhere near the top of the BB world in your time!! You obviously are very knowledgeable and have a following but in my opinion you are way off about Phil and Im sure you will call me a retard and move on, but lets really see who you are and let the Get big Board judge you!! I have a feeling you will never show your face and will just keep spewing your faceless knowledge and opinions without admitting who you are and taking the critique for yourself like you so do to so many others!!!
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: dr.chimps on April 15, 2011, 05:54:56 PM
Wall of retard.^     

/hi phil
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: tendonitis on April 15, 2011, 06:02:44 PM
Ok this is so ludicrous the way GH-15 and others put Phil down??
Look at what you are saying and if you are such an expert then critique and say things that are true and relevant!!! He is not a terrible BB! He is one of the best today and from the past!!

Phil is a great BB no matter how you judge him! Does he have a weak chest? Maybe so compared to other body parts! You say Wolf and Vic and Samir and others are way better?? Really?? Come on!! Samir?? would or should wipe Phil up!!!! What about Wolfs calves? Back insertions? lack of size at some shows? Does that make him a shitty BB? No way he is one of the top Pros! They all have weakness's but don't put Phil down and overlook all the other BB with weak parts also! Last time I checked Phil is still winning or beating most of the others at every show! Jays back is weak in the detail and waist is blocky! Vic? Terrible calves, conditioning sucks, legs are weak etc etc!!! Samir? He was all back and when I trained next to him for a cpl years in late 80s and early 90's he trained like a pussy!! He was not even close to Phil or most of the top BB today! That doesn't make him a a bad BB tho! He was good BB with some weak parts but put it all together one time and it paid off! Its a competition! Some days you have it and other days you don't! Phil is not all arms either! has great legs, shoulders, calves, great back dbl Bi, smaller chest yes!! But better then most overall!! What about guys like Lee Labrada/ he was great but small! Ray was great but he wasn't huge either and he was not that wide!Anyways phil is not all drugs! I saw him train over his first 2-3 years  and he was always solid and trained hard and grew fast but not any different then the top guys from the last 10 years! He did respond and move up faster then most and i think that is why people are so jealous i guess! Give him a break! he is great BB and is not a drugged out loser, weirdo like alot of the past and current pros! He works hard and promotes himself and earns a great living, trying to do it the right way! unlike alot of them that are total IV druggies, closet sell outs, living the dream in some run down Venice Apartment spending there every last dime on Narcotics and Roids, or so strung out there killing people and dumping there bodies in the desert!! In my opinion Phil heath is a great face for the BB world and everyone knows that and he will be Mr O and he deserves it and has moved up through the ranks fast but who the hell gives a shit! He looks good and obviously has had a great career so far and I have a feeling much better success all around then GH-15 or most of the other has been washed up BB on here whose whole life is finding ways to bash Phil and the other top guys cause they never made it or are just so insecure about there pathetic lives that they have to post negative shit to make themselves feel better! Anyways im an old washed up, never made it BB but at least I moved on when I realized I wasnt going to be a Pro BB or able to make a living directly, so I made a life! Get over it, Phil is the next Mr O and rightfully deserves it!!! So GH-15 show us who you really are and lets see if you were anyone that was anywhere near the top of the BB world in your time!! You obviously are very knowledgeable and have a following but in my opinion you are way off about Phil and Im sure you will call me a retard and move on, but lets really see who you are and let the Get big Board judge you!! I have a feeling you will never show your face and will just keep spewing your faceless knowledge and opinions without admitting who you are and taking the critique for yourself like you so do to so many others!!!

Calm down Phil. Load up a Cutler sized shot of insulin, pour a big ole cup of Cell Tech and relax and watch some BET.

It ain't that serious.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Shockwave on April 15, 2011, 06:07:16 PM
Ok this is so ludicrous the way GH-15 and others put Phil down??
Look at what you are saying and if you are such an expert then critique and say things that are true and relevant!!! He is not a terrible BB! He is one of the best today and from the past!!

Phil is a great BB no matter how you judge him! Does he have a weak chest? Maybe so compared to other body parts! You say Wolf and Vic and Samir and others are way better?? Really?? Come on!! Samir?? would or should wipe Phil up!!!! What about Wolfs calves? Back insertions? lack of size at some shows? Does that make him a shitty BB? No way he is one of the top Pros! They all have weakness's but don't put Phil down and overlook all the other BB with weak parts also! Last time I checked Phil is still winning or beating most of the others at every show! Jays back is weak in the detail and waist is blocky! Vic? Terrible calves, conditioning sucks, legs are weak etc etc!!! Samir? He was all back and when I trained next to him for a cpl years in late 80s and early 90's he trained like a pussy!! He was not even close to Phil or most of the top BB today! That doesn't make him a a bad BB tho! He was good BB with some weak parts but put it all together one time and it paid off! Its a competition! Some days you have it and other days you don't! Phil is not all arms either! has great legs, shoulders, calves, great back dbl Bi, smaller chest yes!! But better then most overall!! What about guys like Lee Labrada/ he was great but small! Ray was great but he wasn't huge either and he was not that wide!Anyways phil is not all drugs! I saw him train over his first 2-3 years  and he was always solid and trained hard and grew fast but not any different then the top guys from the last 10 years! He did respond and move up faster then most and i think that is why people are so jealous i guess! Give him a break! he is great BB and is not a drugged out loser, weirdo like alot of the past and current pros! He works hard and promotes himself and earns a great living, trying to do it the right way! unlike alot of them that are total IV druggies, closet sell outs, living the dream in some run down Venice Apartment spending there every last dime on Narcotics and Roids, or so strung out there killing people and dumping there bodies in the desert!! In my opinion Phil heath is a great face for the BB world and everyone knows that and he will be Mr O and he deserves it and has moved up through the ranks fast but who the hell gives a shit! He looks good and obviously has had a great career so far and I have a feeling much better success all around then GH-15 or most of the other has been washed up BB on here whose whole life is finding ways to bash Phil and the other top guys cause they never made it or are just so insecure about there pathetic lives that they have to post negative shit to make themselves feel better! Anyways im an old washed up, never made it BB but at least I moved on when I realized I wasnt going to be a Pro BB or able to make a living directly, so I made a life! Get over it, Phil is the next Mr O and rightfully deserves it!!! So GH-15 show us who you really are and lets see if you were anyone that was anywhere near the top of the BB world in your time!! You obviously are very knowledgeable and have a following but in my opinion you are way off about Phil and Im sure you will call me a retard and move on, but lets really see who you are and let the Get big Board judge you!! I have a feeling you will never show your face and will just keep spewing your faceless knowledge and opinions without admitting who you are and taking the critique for yourself like you so do to so many others!!!
Oh brother.
This guy sounds like the kind of guy who hangs out in the gym locker room naked, and makes sure to be on all 4's when Phil walks by, in hope that "the gift" will trip over his strategically placed pile of clothes and land cock first in his ass.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: MB on April 15, 2011, 06:08:45 PM
I like how several people say Phil will be the next Mr. O like it or not.  He may get an Olympia or two, but it's by no means a sure thing.  He has a structural deficiency that is easily exposed, so there's no guarantee of anything. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: gh15 on April 15, 2011, 08:19:52 PM
Ok this is so ludicrous the way GH-15 and others put Phil down??
Look at what you are saying and if you are such an expert then critique and say things that are true and relevant!!! He is not a terrible BB! He is one of the best today and from the past!!

Phil is a great BB no matter how you judge him! Does he have a weak chest? Maybe so compared to other body parts! You say Wolf and Vic and Samir and others are way better?? Really?? Come on!! Samir?? would or should wipe Phil up!!!! What about Wolfs calves? Back insertions? lack of size at some shows? Does that make him a shitty BB? No way he is one of the top Pros! They all have weakness's but don't put Phil down and overlook all the other BB with weak parts also! Last time I checked Phil is still winning or beating most of the others at every show! Jays back is weak in the detail and waist is blocky! Vic? Terrible calves, conditioning sucks, legs are weak etc etc!!! Samir? He was all back and when I trained next to him for a cpl years in late 80s and early 90's he trained like a pussy!! He was not even close to Phil or most of the top BB today! That doesn't make him a a bad BB tho! He was good BB with some weak parts but put it all together one time and it paid off! Its a competition! Some days you have it and other days you don't! Phil is not all arms either! has great legs, shoulders, calves, great back dbl Bi, smaller chest yes!! But better then most overall!! What about guys like Lee Labrada/ he was great but small! Ray was great but he wasn't huge either and he was not that wide!Anyways phil is not all drugs! I saw him train over his first 2-3 years  and he was always solid and trained hard and grew fast but not any different then the top guys from the last 10 years! He did respond and move up faster then most and i think that is why people are so jealous i guess! Give him a break! he is great BB and is not a drugged out loser, weirdo like alot of the past and current pros! He works hard and promotes himself and earns a great living, trying to do it the right way! unlike alot of them that are total IV druggies, closet sell outs, living the dream in some run down Venice Apartment spending there every last dime on Narcotics and Roids, or so strung out there killing people and dumping there bodies in the desert!! In my opinion Phil heath is a great face for the BB world and everyone knows that and he will be Mr O and he deserves it and has moved up through the ranks fast but who the hell gives a shit! He looks good and obviously has had a great career so far and I have a feeling much better success all around then GH-15 or most of the other has been washed up BB on here whose whole life is finding ways to bash Phil and the other top guys cause they never made it or are just so insecure about there pathetic lives that they have to post negative shit to make themselves feel better! Anyways im an old washed up, never made it BB but at least I moved on when I realized I wasnt going to be a Pro BB or able to make a living directly, so I made a life! Get over it, Phil is the next Mr O and rightfully deserves it!!! So GH-15 show us who you really are and lets see if you were anyone that was anywhere near the top of the BB world in your time!! You obviously are very knowledgeable and have a following but in my opinion you are way off about Phil and Im sure you will call me a retard and move on, but lets really see who you are and let the Get big Board judge you!! I have a feeling you will never show your face and will just keep spewing your faceless knowledge and opinions without admitting who you are and taking the critique for yourself like you so do to so many others!!!

my friend,,
CALVES ARE NOT CHEST AND NOT CALVICLES,, calvicles are as important in bodybuild as back ,, you have to have thick wide full pecs inorder to be dominent mr o or any mr o o...it got to be there along with the back and the delts and the all package,,what phil heath did was improve eveyrthing via hormones and saturation of hormones and he coudnt do it to the calvicles thus the chest look awekward and just since there are no other words to describe it i will call it small and narrow due to calvicle that are the narowest i have ever seen ,,


now! im nto jelous of phil heath ,,i am not jelous of any of bodybuilders right now because majority of them have no foundation ,,


if you just compared in your posting phil to samir.... lol thats show how misgusded and washed ,,brain washed your head is from the last 4-5 years of disusterous bodybuild,,

the proof will be in the pudding,,you will wait and see philllip heath fall like a domino building ,,it wont be a long process because noooo foundation ....unlike the example youi gave that have solid foundation like samir ,,like wolfe,,like many others he does not! he will shirnk worse than levrone actually very similar to levrone ONLY he will not be muscle when shrink ,,he will be more of a umm what we call soft mooshy version of a current ken wheeler but with out the ken wheeler size lol and its sad because ken wheeler HAS NO size,,


i suggest before you talk abotu lee labrada or any other greats to check their physiqe ,,they all have everything tip top,,no one care about calves ,,it is a little tiny muscle at the buttom of the leg that you can blow up to some degree with seo and it doesnt involve CALVICLES,,calvicles is like arms ,,its like delts,,its like everything,,a fella with normal calviocles a fella with wide calvicles will ALWAYS LOOK MUCH BIGGER THAN A FELLA WITH NARROW ONES if both stand same weight and many times even if the fella with wide calvicles weigh les he will LOOK bigger....

now,,i said here over and over the philip heath will most likley be mr o but i do not thjink he deserve it ,,not out of jelousy but out of being knowing what bodybuildign is lal about,,

it is not about who can blow themselves up from within the fastest while keeping the lines... it is abotu who can develop the best physiqe as in SYMETRYYYYYYYYYYYY which feel doesnt have,,balance which phil does not have,, and over all powerfull pyhysiqe,,any mr o look powerfull ANY one of them look powerful ...it is only th elast 5 years that bodybuilder champion started to look like fake size big  and looking like balerina type of strength ,,the physiqe do not look STRONG BECAUSE OF THE ABUSE OF INSULINA AND GH..... then again every one is like that now and the generation is of failures so as i said AGAIN he will most likley will get a title ,,

have no doubt about it ,,sean ,,kevin ,,chris,,ken,,all would wipe him into no where if he competed back in 90s,,he is the result of the SINS OF KEN WHEELER! thats why he shoudl never be mr o because PHILLIP HEATH IS THE NEW BORN OUT OF THE SINS OF KEN WHEELER,,

generation nothingess prime time baby,,right there n ext to kobe bryant ,,,but! kobe atleast has the foundation of playing basketball....

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: alnassak on April 16, 2011, 02:30:27 AM
my friend,,
CALVES ARE NOT CHEST AND NOT CALVICLES,, calvicles are as important in bodybuild as back ,, you have to have thick wide full pecs inorder to be dominent mr o or any mr o o...it got to be there along with the back and the delts and the all package,,what phil heath did was improve eveyrthing via hormones and saturation of hormones and he coudnt do it to the calvicles thus the chest look awekward and just since there are no other words to describe it i will call it small and narrow due to calvicle that are the narowest i have ever seen ,,


now! im nto jelous of phil heath ,,i am not jelous of any of bodybuilders right now because majority of them have no foundation ,,


if you just compared in your posting phil to samir.... lol thats show how misgusded and washed ,,brain washed your head is from the last 4-5 years of disusterous bodybuild,,

the proof will be in the pudding,,you will wait and see philllip heath fall like a domino building ,,it wont be a long process because noooo foundation ....unlike the example youi gave that have solid foundation like samir ,,like wolfe,,like many others he does not! he will shirnk worse than levrone actually very similar to levrone ONLY he will not be muscle when shrink ,,he will be more of a umm what we call soft mooshy version of a current ken wheeler but with out the ken wheeler size lol and its sad because ken wheeler HAS NO size,,


i suggest before you talk abotu lee labrada or any other greats to check their physiqe ,,they all have everything tip top,,no one care about calves ,,it is a little tiny muscle at the buttom of the leg that you can blow up to some degree with seo and it doesnt involve CALVICLES,,calvicles is like arms ,,its like delts,,its like everything,,a fella with normal calviocles a fella with wide calvicles will ALWAYS LOOK MUCH BIGGER THAN A FELLA WITH NARROW ONES if both stand same weight and many times even if the fella with wide calvicles weigh les he will LOOK bigger....

now,,i said here over and over the philip heath will most likley be mr o but i do not thjink he deserve it ,,not out of jelousy but out of being knowing what bodybuildign is lal about,,

it is not about who can blow themselves up from within the fastest while keeping the lines... it is abotu who can develop the best physiqe as in SYMETRYYYYYYYYYYYY which feel doesnt have,,balance which phil does not have,, and over all powerfull pyhysiqe,,any mr o look powerfull ANY one of them look powerful ...it is only th elast 5 years that bodybuilder champion started to look like fake size big  and looking like balerina type of strength ,,the physiqe do not look STRONG BECAUSE OF THE ABUSE OF INSULINA AND GH..... then again every one is like that now and the generation is of failures so as i said AGAIN he will most likley will get a title ,,

have no doubt about it ,,sean ,,kevin ,,chris,,ken,,all would wipe him into no where if he competed back in 90s,,he is the result of the SINS OF KEN WHEELER! thats why he shoudl never be mr o because PHILLIP HEATH IS THE NEW BORN OUT OF THE SINS OF KEN WHEELER,,

generation nothingess prime time baby,,right there n ext to kobe bryant ,,,but! kobe atleast has the foundation of playing basketball....

gh15 approved

Get a life man.  Phil is the 2nd best bodybuilder right now and your $hits will never ever change the facts.

I feel sorry for you  :(
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 16, 2011, 02:43:00 AM
Get a life man.  Phil is the 2nd best bodybuilder right now and your $hits will never ever change the facts.

I feel sorry for you  :(
Hold on, there's a big difference between placing 2nd and being the 2nd "best". The judgement qualities of the IFBB are a big joke. Just look at the countless robberies over the last 40 years.
If you believe in those big jokes, you need to get a life.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: kiwiol on April 16, 2011, 03:41:04 AM
Get a life man.  Phil is the 2nd best bodybuilder right now and your $hits will never ever change the facts.

I feel sorry for you  :(

Do you think Phil is better than Nassir?
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Parker on April 16, 2011, 04:02:04 AM
Born out of the Sins of Ken Wheeler, actually that is a interesting concept. Flex won his first 4 Pro shows, placed second at the Mr. O his rookie yr. Phil won his first 2 pro shows his rookie yr, and everybody compared his to Flex...both had great arms, and at the time, Phil had great shape and symmetry, his was quite light back then....both were kinda narrow, and both have that excellent back detailing...both were/are kinda shallow in the chest...

So basically, Phl is the new Flex, without Flex's shape...
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Tito24 on April 16, 2011, 04:41:52 AM
i think a good v taper is crucial for having an impressive physique.
you can have tons of muscle like heath (dont know how much of it is real muscle) but its looks hobbitial when its build on a narrow frame. he for certain ain no orville burke.


compare that little bitch to this

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/148/images/Orville_Burke%20(42).jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/TCDpRsSICjI/AAAAAAAALgM/ZHgOJPuFShI/s1600/Freeman+getting+weighed+and+measured.+The+X-Man+was+a+shade+under+300+pounds+at+6+2+-+www.Musclebase.Blogspot.com.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: asbrus on April 17, 2011, 09:05:55 PM
my friend,,
CALVES ARE NOT CHEST AND NOT CALVICLES,, calvicles are as important in bodybuild as back ,, you have to have thick wide full pecs inorder to be dominent mr o or any mr o o...it got to be there along with the back and the delts and the all package,,what phil heath did was improve eveyrthing via hormones and saturation of hormones and he coudnt do it to the calvicles thus the chest look awekward and just since there are no other words to describe it i will call it small and narrow due to calvicle that are the narowest i have ever seen ,,


now! im nto jelous of phil heath ,,i am not jelous of any of bodybuilders right now because majority of them have no foundation ,,


if you just compared in your posting phil to samir.... lol thats show how misgusded and washed ,,brain washed your head is from the last 4-5 years of disusterous bodybuild,,

the proof will be in the pudding,,you will wait and see philllip heath fall like a domino building ,,it wont be a long process because noooo foundation ....unlike the example youi gave that have solid foundation like samir ,,like wolfe,,like many others he does not! he will shirnk worse than levrone actually very similar to levrone ONLY he will not be muscle when shrink ,,he will be more of a umm what we call soft mooshy version of a current ken wheeler but with out the ken wheeler size lol and its sad because ken wheeler HAS NO size,,


i suggest before you talk abotu lee labrada or any other greats to check their physiqe ,,they all have everything tip top,,no one care about calves ,,it is a little tiny muscle at the buttom of the leg that you can blow up to some degree with seo and it doesnt involve CALVICLES,,calvicles is like arms ,,its like delts,,its like everything,,a fella with normal calviocles a fella with wide calvicles will ALWAYS LOOK MUCH BIGGER THAN A FELLA WITH NARROW ONES if both stand same weight and many times even if the fella with wide calvicles weigh les he will LOOK bigger....

now,,i said here over and over the philip heath will most likley be mr o but i do not thjink he deserve it ,,not out of jelousy but out of being knowing what bodybuildign is lal about,,

it is not about who can blow themselves up from within the fastest while keeping the lines... it is abotu who can develop the best physiqe as in SYMETRYYYYYYYYYYYY which feel doesnt have,,balance which phil does not have,, and over all powerfull pyhysiqe,,any mr o look powerfull ANY one of them look powerful ...it is only th elast 5 years that bodybuilder champion started to look like fake size big  and looking like balerina type of strength ,,the physiqe do not look STRONG BECAUSE OF THE ABUSE OF INSULINA AND GH..... then again every one is like that now and the generation is of failures so as i said AGAIN he will most likley will get a title ,,

have no doubt about it ,,sean ,,kevin ,,chris,,ken,,all would wipe him into no where if he competed back in 90s,,he is the result of the SINS OF KEN WHEELER! thats why he shoudl never be mr o because PHILLIP HEATH IS THE NEW BORN OUT OF THE SINS OF KEN WHEELER,,

generation nothingess prime time baby,,right there n ext to kobe bryant ,,,but! kobe atleast has the foundation of playing basketball....

gh15 approved

I GET WHAT Y0U'RE SAYING T0 AN EXTENT BUT DIDN'T Y0U SAY THE GAME 0F B0DYBUILDING N0W IS ALL INSULIN AND GH S0 THAT MEANS EVERY0NE IS D0ING IT RIGHT? S0 WHY IS PHIL HEATH FAKE AND ALL THE 0THERS REAL IF THEY ARE ALL USING THE SAME D0SAGES? IF B0DYBUILDING IS ALL AB0UT H0RM0NES AND H0W Y0U RESP0ND T0 THEM THEN WH0 CARES WHAT F0UNDATI0N Y0U HAVE IF N0W THE INSULIN AND GH D0ES THE J0B. ALS0, H0W MUCH SE0 D0 Y0U THINK PHIL HAS 0N HIS DELTS AND ARMS? ALS0, 0FF T0PIC QUESTI0N KIND 0F BUT D0 Y0U BELIEVE THAT THE WIDER S0ME0Ne'S CLAVICLES ARE THE M0RE MASS THEY CAN PUT 0N THEIR FRAME 0R IT D0SEN'T MATTER.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: obtuse_waiter on April 18, 2011, 12:20:43 AM
hobbitial
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 18, 2011, 01:39:59 AM
I GET WHAT Y0U'RE SAYING T0 AN EXTENT BUT DIDN'T Y0U SAY THE GAME 0F B0DYBUILDING N0W IS ALL INSULIN AND GH S0 THAT MEANS EVERY0NE IS D0ING IT RIGHT? S0 WHY IS PHIL HEATH FAKE AND ALL THE 0THERS REAL IF THEY ARE ALL USING THE SAME D0SAGES? IF B0DYBUILDING IS ALL AB0UT H0RM0NES AND H0W Y0U RESP0ND T0 THEM THEN WH0 CARES WHAT F0UNDATI0N Y0U HAVE IF N0W THE INSULIN AND GH D0ES THE J0B. ALS0, H0W MUCH SE0 D0 Y0U THINK PHIL HAS 0N HIS DELTS AND ARMS? ALS0, 0FF T0PIC QUESTI0N KIND 0F BUT D0 Y0U BELIEVE THAT THE WIDER S0ME0Ne'S CLAVICLES ARE THE M0RE MASS THEY CAN PUT 0N THEIR FRAME 0R IT D0SEN'T MATTER.

Listen, capslock bitch, it's not only about doing the right thing hormonal wise, but also about having a foundation (large frame) to make the difference. Phil is fake because without all those hormones he would look like Harry Belafonte.
Look -for example- at Lee Haney, he's got that foundation, no matter how old he is.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Firemuscle on April 18, 2011, 01:47:26 AM
 I just think Phil's huge arms look stupid. Just too big, especially alongside his narrow chest, the symettry and balance is really fucked up.

 I don't think the best bodybuilder in the world should have such an unbalanced physique. The symettry is so fucked up. He should be like a Kovacs, a guy who's impressive, but doesn't place high.

 He is impressive as far as sheer size and freakshow factor. But is this really what bodybuilding is all about? Just maximum size with absolutely no regard for symetry and balance? Arms that overpower everything.

 Why didn't they make RUHL Mr. Olympia then if size is all that matters? Because he ain't American and he ain't marketable, that's why.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: asbrus on April 18, 2011, 02:04:45 AM
I just think Phil's huge arms look stupid. Just too big, especially alongside his narrow chest, the symettry and balance is really fucked up.

 I don't think the best physique in the world should have such an unbalanced physique. The symettry is so fucked up. He should be like a Kovacs, a guy who's impressive, but doesn't place high.

 He is impressive as far as sheer size and freakshow factor. But is this really what bodybuilding is all about? Just maximum size with absolutely no regard for symetry and balance? Arms that overpower everything.

 Why didn't they make RUHL Mr. Olympia then if size is all that matters? Because he ain't American and he ain't marketable, that's why.

 MY P0INT IS IF B0DYBUILDING IS ALL DRUGS LIKE GH15 SAYS THEN WHAT DIFFERENCE D0ES IT MAKE IF Y0U HAVE A F0UNDATI0N 0R N0T. 0N STAGE THE JUDGES L00K AT THE PHYSIQUES AND THEY D0N'T ASK Y0U H0W L0NG Y0U TRAINED F0R BEF0RE TAKING INSULIN.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Firemuscle on April 18, 2011, 02:07:16 AM
MY P0INT IS IF B0DYBUILDING IS ALL DRUGS LIKE GH15 SAYS THEN WHAT DIFFERENCE D0ES IT MAKE IF Y0U HAVE A F0UNDATI0N 0R N0T. 0N STAGE THE JUDGES L00K AT THE PHYSIQUES AND THEY D0N'T ASK Y0U H0W L0NG Y0U TRAINED F0R BEF0RE TAKING INSULIN.

 Because when someone doesn't have a foundation you can see it. It does look worse, looks softer, looks more balloonish.

 Of course you need to know about bodybuilding to recognize it. The average person on the street can't tell the difference.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: asbrus on April 18, 2011, 02:11:27 AM
Because when someone doesn't have a foundation you can see it. It does look worse, looks softer, looks more balloonish.

 Of course you need to know about bodybuilding to recognize it. The average person on the street can't tell the difference.

YAH N0 W0NDER PHIL L00KS PUFFY EVERYWHERE. 0N THE 0THER HAND S0ME0NE LIKE JAY AND DENNIS W0LF IS M0RE DENSE.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 18, 2011, 02:19:59 AM
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Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: asbrus on April 18, 2011, 02:23:36 AM
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G0T A CASE 0F FEMALE PMS I SEE. G00D LUCK WITH THAT.
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 18, 2011, 03:48:21 AM
It's right in front of you dude, you don't have to be GAY to notice it.

While I don't know about Phil's sexual preference, he sure seems to stay on top of his looks.

I will say that having met Phil before, he is a nice guy.  He comes off as a little arrogant, but if you talk to him about the IFBB, competitions or even other competitors, he will be straight with you.

"1"

your quite a good blogger but try be 4% bodyfat at a contest n try be nice , ppls expect a pro to be social when he' eat tuna since 12 weeks at near death body fat level

once you get striated glutes once in life you respect any disturbing behavior for someone in tha situation

take tren halo clen wintab t3 masteron til your dry condition n go hangout socially it' will run to a disaster !
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: the trainer on April 18, 2011, 09:33:39 AM
my friend,,
CALVES ARE NOT CHEST AND NOT CALVICLES,, calvicles are as important in bodybuild as back ,, you have to have thick wide full pecs inorder to be dominent mr o or any mr o o...it got to be there along with the back and the delts and the all package,,what phil heath did was improve eveyrthing via hormones and saturation of hormones and he coudnt do it to the calvicles thus the chest look awekward and just since there are no other words to describe it i will call it small and narrow due to calvicle that are the narowest i have ever seen ,,


now! im nto jelous of phil heath ,,i am not jelous of any of bodybuilders right now because majority of them have no foundation ,,


if you just compared in your posting phil to samir.... lol thats show how misgusded and washed ,,brain washed your head is from the last 4-5 years of disusterous bodybuild,,

the proof will be in the pudding,,you will wait and see philllip heath fall like a domino building ,,it wont be a long process because noooo foundation ....unlike the example youi gave that have solid foundation like samir ,,like wolfe,,like many others he does not! he will shirnk worse than levrone actually very similar to levrone ONLY he will not be muscle when shrink ,,he will be more of a umm what we call soft mooshy version of a current ken wheeler but with out the ken wheeler size lol and its sad because ken wheeler HAS NO size,,


i suggest before you talk abotu lee labrada or any other greats to check their physiqe ,,they all have everything tip top,,no one care about calves ,,it is a little tiny muscle at the buttom of the leg that you can blow up to some degree with seo and it doesnt involve CALVICLES,,calvicles is like arms ,,its like delts,,its like everything,,a fella with normal calviocles a fella with wide calvicles will ALWAYS LOOK MUCH BIGGER THAN A FELLA WITH NARROW ONES if both stand same weight and many times even if the fella with wide calvicles weigh les he will LOOK bigger....

now,,i said here over and over the philip heath will most likley be mr o but i do not thjink he deserve it ,,not out of jelousy but out of being knowing what bodybuildign is lal about,,

it is not about who can blow themselves up from within the fastest while keeping the lines... it is abotu who can develop the best physiqe as in SYMETRYYYYYYYYYYYY which feel doesnt have,,balance which phil does not have,, and over all powerfull pyhysiqe,,any mr o look powerfull ANY one of them look powerful ...it is only th elast 5 years that bodybuilder champion started to look like fake size big  and looking like balerina type of strength ,,the physiqe do not look STRONG BECAUSE OF THE ABUSE OF INSULINA AND GH..... then again every one is like that now and the generation is of failures so as i said AGAIN he will most likley will get a title ,,

have no doubt about it ,,sean ,,kevin ,,chris,,ken,,all would wipe him into no where if he competed back in 90s,,he is the result of the SINS OF KEN WHEELER! thats why he shoudl never be mr o because PHILLIP HEATH IS THE NEW BORN OUT OF THE SINS OF KEN WHEELER,,

generation nothingess prime time baby,,right there n ext to kobe bryant ,,,but! kobe atleast has the foundation of playing basketball....

gh15 approved


 The problem is you keep singling out phil when every top bodybuilder is taking a lot of gh and insulin, look at all the past mr o, dorian had shitty arms and a gh gut in the later part of this career, ronnie was a freak but his gh gut was horrible, so if you do not like the current state of bodybuilding then bash the system not phil he is doing what everbody else is doing. And like i said bodybuilding is about packing on as much muscle on your frame as possible with balance and shape and phil has done that.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: smoothasf on April 18, 2011, 09:51:56 AM
I wouldn't take it personal you could post pics of a Victoria secret model and these guys would rip her. Too skinny no ass ugly face. This is theother end of the gender spectrum.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: _bruce_ on April 18, 2011, 12:22:55 PM
Bump fot the mighty Queaf  :D
Title: Re: Why so much Phil Heath hate on this board
Post by: Deicide on April 18, 2011, 12:27:02 PM
great writing mister college professor  ::)

It is good writing, just most people don't write like that usually. It's high style.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: gh15 on April 18, 2011, 01:30:39 PM

 The problem is you keep singling out phil when every top bodybuilder is taking a lot of gh and insulin, look at all the past mr o, dorian had shitty arms and a gh gut in the later part of this career, ronnie was a freak but his gh gut was horrible, so if you do not like the current state of bodybuilding then bash the system not phil he is doing what everbody else is doing. And like i said bodybuilding is about packing on as much muscle on your frame as possible with balance and shape and phil has done that.


are you about to propose? dont invite me to wedding ill send cash in mail,, i dont hate him ,,everything i say is from bodybuild perspective nothing personal agsint any bodybuildr it is knwon and clear

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Secret Stack on April 18, 2011, 10:39:23 PM
actually this is a good point. if you think about it, phil didnt place himself 2nd in the olympia, those names at the judges table did.

gh15 points out all of phils flaws and how the short cut he has taken is showing in his look to his physqiue, but the names we should be bashing are the ones on the judges table!!

gh15, you have a strong voice and i beleive you know the names of those sitting at the judges tables...these are the names we should be bringing forward. this is where it starts to get rid of the branchs, phils and kai greene guts out from the top places and into the places they belong.

what good do we do keep bashing someone like phil, as bad as his overall structure is, if he cant do anything about placing 2nd at the olympia? unless we talki him into saying "no no, actually i woul dlike to hand my runner up placing to someone else and i would like to drop down to around 8th if you wouldnt mind judges?"

never going to happen!

judges names is what this thread should be about! gh15, ur in the industry, u would know every single one of them siting there....they are the ones placing the guts and the smooth insulin condition in first.

getbig is read by them too!

judges names is how you fix this.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: asbrus on April 18, 2011, 11:27:31 PM
actually this is a good point. if you think about it, phil didnt place himself 2nd in the olympia, those names at the judges table did.

gh15 points out all of phils flaws and how the short cut he has taken is showing in his look to his physqiue, but the names we should be bashing are the ones on the judges table!!

gh15, you have a strong voice and i beleive you know the names of those sitting at the judges tables...these are the names we should be bringing forward. this is where it starts to get rid of the branchs, phils and kai greene guts out from the top places and into the places they belong.

what good do we do keep bashing someone like phil, as bad as his overall structure is, if he cant do anything about placing 2nd at the olympia? unless we talki him into saying "no no, actually i woul dlike to hand my runner up placing to someone else and i would like to drop down to around 8th if you wouldnt mind judges?"

never going to happen!

judges names is what this thread should be about! gh15, ur in the industry, u would know every single one of them siting there....they are the ones placing the guts and the smooth insulin condition in first.

getbig is read by them too!

judges names is how you fix this.

HE RISKS HIS 0WN CAREER IF HE NAMES JUDGES AS S0ME PE0PLE KN0W HIS IDENTITY 0N HERE.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Firemuscle on April 18, 2011, 11:37:25 PM
are you about to propose? dont invite me to wedding ill send cash in mail,, i dont hate him ,,everything i say is from bodybuild perspective nothing personal agsint any bodybuildr it is knwon and clear

gh15 approved

 How's it going Nasser. You still wokring at the Men's Warehouse? How much for a tailor made suit?
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Secret Stack on April 18, 2011, 11:55:16 PM
HE RISKS HIS 0WN CAREER IF HE NAMES JUDGES AS S0ME PE0PLE KN0W HIS IDENTITY 0N HERE.
he outs and says all these things about other bodybuilders but now hes scared of the judges?
in comparison...i dont htink so!
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: LurkyLurker on April 19, 2011, 01:22:14 AM
HE RISKS HIS 0WN CAREER IF HE NAMES JUDGES AS S0ME PE0PLE KN0W HIS IDENTITY 0N HERE.

D0 Y0U PURP0SELY TYPE THE NUMBER ZER0 RATHER THAN THE LETTER "O", 0R IS THERE S0METHING WR0NG WITH Y0UR KEYB0ARD?
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Boost on April 19, 2011, 01:34:21 AM
He's more complete with better separation than anyone currently competing.

He's also never "Off". Kai and Phil are close, but Phil nails his conditioning more often.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: asbrus on April 19, 2011, 02:52:25 AM
D0 Y0U PURP0SELY TYPE THE NUMBER ZER0 RATHER THAN THE LETTER "O", 0R IS THERE S0METHING WR0NG WITH Y0UR KEYB0ARD?

LETTER 0 D0ES N0T W0RK. KEYB0ARD NEEDS FIXING.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 19, 2011, 04:08:21 AM
LETTER 0 D0ES N0T W0RK. KEYB0ARD NEEDS FIXING.
Wrong, your brain does
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: gh15 on April 19, 2011, 12:00:19 PM
He's more complete with better separation than anyone currently competing.

He's also never "Off". Kai and Phil are close, but Phil nails his conditioning more often.

seperation is big part of bodybuild in highest level but! it is not all,,you need to have symetry proportion and all major bodypart of upper torse need be up to par,,

major bodypart = chest ,,back,, delts,, notice i dont say biceps....because bicep can be taken to the next level with good tricep

chest
back
delts

those 3 got to be there !

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: asbrus on April 19, 2011, 01:38:00 PM
Wrong, your brain does

I KN0W MY BRAIN D0ES W0RK. N0 P0INT IN C0NFIRMING IT.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 19, 2011, 01:47:07 PM
I KN0W MY BRAIN D0ESN'T W0RK. N0 P0INT IN C0NFIRMING IT.
I told you, it needs some fixing
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: asbrus on April 19, 2011, 02:29:37 PM
I told you, it needs some fixing

I THINK Y0U HAD A PLATE DR0PPED 0N Y0UR HEAD. IT MATCHES Y0UR NAME.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 19, 2011, 02:33:33 PM
I THINK Y0U HAD A PLATE DR0PPED 0N Y0UR HEAD. IT MATCHES Y0UR NAME.
That was a no brainer response of you  ;D
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Papper on April 19, 2011, 02:42:03 PM
why are you mimicking a user from bb.com?
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 19, 2011, 02:43:12 PM
once Kai nails his conditioning, Phil will be a non-issue
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: asbrus on April 19, 2011, 02:43:45 PM
why are you mimicking a user from bb.com?

I'M N0T. I'M THE USER.
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: Papper on April 19, 2011, 02:47:51 PM
I'M N0T. I'M THE USER.

You typed with regular O's before you got banned, so you broke your O-key again?
Title: Re: Phil Heath - like him or not?
Post by: asbrus on April 19, 2011, 02:52:29 PM
You typed with regular O's before you got banned, so you broke your O-key again?

I NEVER TYPED WITH REGULAR 0'S. IT WAS CAPS L0CK AT TIMES.