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Upwards of 6500-7500 calories, 500 grams of protein, 1000 grams of carbs, 50-75 grams fat per day.
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Even with 75g of fat that is nearly 1000 calories short of 7500.
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What can I say... Jay Huge :o
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I call bullshit on his claims.
I stole this from somewhere, "a diet high in protein may lead to kidney stones because extra protein causes calcium to be excreted from the body, raising calcium levels in the urine."
That claim on protein sounds suspect! Hell, all of his claims sound like bullshit.
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What heinous crimes did those guys commit that they were forced to sit through that?
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What heinous crimes did those guys commit that they were forced to sit through that?
Epic failed hate post.
Those guys sitting there are the ones paying Jay's Ferrari, Porsche, Escalade, BMW, MB... LOL @ you 8)
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Upwards of 6500-7500 calories, 500 grams of protein, 1000 grams of carbs, 50-75 grams fat per day.
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That sounds about right for someone his size. Guys like Jim Quinn and other old-school monsters typically downed around 9000-10,000 calories per day.
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Epic failed hate post.
Those guys sitting there are the ones paying Jay's Ferrari, Porsche, Escalade, BMW, MB... LOL @ you 8)
How do you and Max decide which one of Jay's shriveled nuts you each get to hang from?
flip a coin? rock-paper-scissor?
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I call bullshit on his claims.
I stole this from somewhere, "a diet high in protein may lead to kidney stones because extra protein causes calcium to be excreted from the body, raising calcium levels in the urine."
That claim on protein sounds suspect! Hell, all of his claims sound like bullshit.
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How so? A guy his size can put away that much protein fairly easily. Heck, I tend to eat 275-300 grams of protein per day with little problem; and I'm nowhere near his size.
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How so? A guy his size can put away that much protein fairly easily. Heck, I tend to eat 275-300 grams of protein per day with little problem; and I'm nowhere near his size.
It's not whether or not he can eat that amount, it's whether or not his kidneys can survive on that amount in the long run.
As a matter of fact, I will retract my above statement and make it slightly more elaborate.
The human body isn't made to sustain a 5'8 300 pound man that eats like a morbidly obese human being. The Kidneys are pretty delicate in that large amounts of protein consumed can cause serious damage. I call bullshit on his claims, because most human beings would suffer from acute renal failure due to kidney stones following such a diet. At the very least, he is certainly in line for a kidney stone or two.
Have you every tried consuming 500 grams of protein daily for a year? Give that a try and let us know how that works out for you.
Also, I could be mistaken, but the common recognized value for caloric intake that translate into weight gain is 1 pound = 3,500 calories. Assuming Jay burns half of the calories he takes in daily (Highly doubt), can he be gaining a pound every day?
This is speculation on my part, but I still call bullshit.
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It's not whether or not he can eat that amount, it's whether or not his kidneys can survive on that amount in the long run.
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Look phag, decalcification is prevented by the amount of AAS that he is on... so protein will pretty much be used to rebuild muscle...
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Look phag, decalcification is prevented by the amount of AAS that he is on... so protein will pretty much be used to rebuild muscle...
what are you talking about? decalcification is what you would want, you do not want to prevent it. AAS has nothing to do with calcium homeostasis.
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Look phag, decalcification is prevented by the amount of AAS that he is on... so protein will pretty much be used to rebuild muscle...
You stupid idiot. You just proved my point.
If decalcification is prevented, then the calcium accumulates when trying to be expelled by the kidneys, which leads to calcium build up and ultimately forms kidney stones.
Fucking idiot.
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Upwards of 6500-7500 calories, 500 grams of protein, 1000 grams of carbs, 50-75 grams fat per day.
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Yeah, my fridge holds about that much too.
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what are you talking about? decalcification is what you would want, you do not want to prevent it. AAS has nothing to do with calcium homeostasis.
Thank you.
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You stupid idiot. You just proved my point.
If decalcification is prevented, then the calcium accumulates when trying to be expelled by the kidneys, which leads to calcium build up and ultimately forms kidney stones.
Fucking idiot.
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That is not what I said "navy boy"... ::) try to stop sucking cock for a minute and read my post again... Calcium will not leave the bones and its absortion will be just like any other nutrient on an extreme anabolic state. So you can swallow as many cum as you like that all calcium will be absorbed, phagboy...
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That is not what I said "navy boy"... ::) try to stop sucking cock for a minute and read my post again... Calcium will not leave the bones and its absortion will be just like any other nutrient on an extreme anabolic state. So you can swallow as many cum as you like that all calcium will be absorbed, phagboy...
Wrong.
I'm done talking to such a fool as yourself that thinks that picking on my sexual preference will somehow validate your faulty logic.
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I read him say a few times that nobody needs more than 5000 clean calories per day exept if you have tyroid problems
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I once read that kamali was eating about 800 grams of protein a day. Squad-father was having a field day with that information.
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I once read that kamali was eating about 800 grams of protein a day.
He was getting straight from the schmoe tap
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King kamai: quote he made her on getbig. Around 500 grams of protein daily. Approx. 8 - 10 oz. of meat per meal. Whey isolate after training and a blend before sleep.
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Cutler's feces have been feeding an impoverished Japanese family of 4 for many years now.
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I call bullshit on his claims.
i believe his caloric intake claims for sure.
i'm dieting on 3800cals, using at least half the gh he would a day, maybe a third even, plus at least half to 1/3rd the compounds, plus throw in there hes holding a shit ton more muscle than i am. its easy for me to believe he's around 6k a day in calories.
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Cutler's feces have been feeding an impoverished Japanese family of 4 for many years now.
Mr Turd Pro.
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Mr Turd Pro.
He won by a "Ughhhh!"
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King kamai: quote he made her on getbig. Around 500 grams of protein daily. Approx. 8 - 10 oz. of meat per meal. Whey isolate after training and a blend before sleep.
Kamali was all plazmosis and manmeat.
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I have consumed 5,000 calories in one sitting at the bar many times...
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the problemo is that you think that we eat the calories all clean ,, thats the problem you got friends,,those 5000 calorie a fella jason size take is NOT CLEAN CALORIES,,we dont use clean calories,,we eat almost anything within the border of what our body is adpating best to,,in jason case it is sushi and burgers ,,in my case it is jamaican and sushi,, when we talk 5k calories we talk about calories in egenral ,,,when you are on trenbolona and gh it DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU EAT as long as you keep the over all ratio of low fat...high carb and cycle them ...and high protien
we do not eat clean unless 6% and want to go down to 4% get it in your head already ,,
YES THAT MEANS IF WE ARE 6.43 % WE STILL EAT SUSHI GERMAN JAMAICAN AND ICECREAM
gh15 approved
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i believe his caloric intake claims for sure.
i'm dieting on 3800cals, using at least half the gh he would a day, maybe a third even, plus at least half to 1/3rd the compounds, plus throw in there hes holding a shit ton more muscle than i am. its easy for me to believe he's around 6k a day in calories.
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yep, sounds about right...someone with his lean body mass, gh and tren and all the other -onas has an absolutely sick metabolism...you know why you feel hot on tren? 'cos your body uses more calories to heat itself! the amount of fat probably is a bit higher but not a lot, imo androgenic hormones in general make you more carb sensitive and improve your body's ability to use big amounts of carbs as a primary source of energy...little amount of fats is only needed for general health, and because low fat ice-cream tastes like shit ;D
and to put things into perspective i'm nowhere near jay's size...yet 8)...and i'm currently consuming 3500-4000 kcals a day and burning fat like a mofo, bf% somewhere around 7-8 i guess 8)
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cant be good so much burgers
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yep, sounds about right...someone with his lean body mass, gh and tren and all the other -onas has an absolutely sick metabolism...you know why you feel hot on tren? 'cos your body uses more calories to heat itself! the amount of fat probably is a bit higher but not a lot, imo androgenic hormones in general make you more carb sensitive and improve your body's ability to use big amounts of carbs as a primary source of energy...little amount of fats is only needed for general health, and because low fat ice-cream tastes like shit ;D
and to put things into perspective i'm nowhere near jay's size...yet 8)...and i'm currently consuming 3500-4000 kcals a day and burning fat like a mofo, bf% somewhere around 7-8 i guess 8)
wtf I diet on like 2500 calories and I train twice a day
but I am a tiny tit too
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wtf I diet on like 2500 calories and I train twice a day
but I am a tiny tit too
maybe...but you look bigger than you are and that's all that matters, i might be a bit bigger than you but you're in that phase gh15 talks about when trying to get from 6% to 4 when diet starts to mean something...i will also need to adjust my eating a bit if want to get leaner...still eating ice-cream pre workout 8)
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i do 3500 cal a day easily, and i'm a 175 pound twink. i just have a high metabolism. McD Big breakfast every morning, 5 little meals with bread, meat, lettuce.
jay is nearly double my size. muslce takes a ton of calories to maintain. I assume he may have tried AAS at some point. Yes, 7000 a day sounds reasonable.
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i do 3500 cal a day easily, and i'm a 175 pound twink. i just have a high metabolism. McD Big breakfast every morning, 5 little meals with bread, meat, lettuce.
jay is nearly double my size. muslce takes a ton of calories to maintain. I assume he may have tried AAS at some point. Yes, 7000 a day sounds reasonable.
I think you may have diabetes, 240.
I'm not sure you've ever looked lean in any of your pictures. Guys with lightning metabolisms stay fairly lean.
I think you're just overeating.
No hate :D
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who cares what jay is eating
pictures in thongs or gtfo
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It's not whether or not he can eat that amount, it's whether or not his kidneys can survive on that amount in the long run.
As a matter of fact, I will retract my above statement and make it slightly more elaborate.
The human body isn't made to sustain a 5'8 300 pound man that eats like a morbidly obese human being. The Kidneys are pretty delicate in that large amounts of protein consumed can cause serious damage. I call bullshit on his claims, because most human beings would suffer from acute renal failure due to kidney stones following such a diet. At the very least, he is certainly in line for a kidney stone or two.
Have you every tried consuming 500 grams of protein daily for a year? Give that a try and let us know how that works out for you.
Also, I could be mistaken, but the common recognized value for caloric intake that translate into weight gain is 1 pound = 3,500 calories. Assuming Jay burns half of the calories he takes in daily (Highly doubt), can he be gaining a pound every day?
This is speculation on my part, but I still call bullshit.
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Y0U HAVE N0 IDEA WHAT Y0U ARE TALKING AB0UT. THERE IS N0 PR00F IN THE MEDICAL LITERATURE THAT HIGH PR0TEIN CAUSES KIDNEY DAMAGE IN HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS. 0N THE C0NTRARY, IT ACTUALLY STRENGTHEN THE KIDNEYS AND THE KINDEYS ARE DAMAGED WITH L0W PR0TEIN INTAKE. Y0U PULLED THAT 0NE RIGHT 0UT 0F Y0UR ASS. ALS0, WHY ARE Y0U C0MPARING HIM T0 JAY? JAY IS 0N EVERY DRUG P0SSIBLE AND HIS B0DY GLADLY ABS0RBS ALL THAT PR0TEIN.
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the problemo is that you think that we eat the calories all clean ,, thats the problem you got friends,,those 5000 calorie a fella jason size take is NOT CLEAN CALORIES,,we dont use clean calories,,we eat almost anything within the border of what our body is adpating best to,,in jason case it is sushi and burgers ,,in my case it is jamaican and sushi,, when we talk 5k calories we talk about calories in egenral ,,,when you are on trenbolona and gh it DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU EAT as long as you keep the over all ratio of low fat...high carb and cycle them ...and high protien
we do not eat clean unless 6% and want to go down to 4% get it in your head already ,,
YES THAT MEANS IF WE ARE 6.43 % WE STILL EAT SUSHI GERMAN JAMAICAN AND ICECREAM
gh15 approved
do protein powders really work or am i wasting my $$ and should just stick with eggwhites
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He's a glutton who steps on the scale everyday because he has to
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Y0U HAVE N0 IDEA WHAT Y0U ARE TALKING AB0UT. THERE IS N0 PR00F IN THE MEDICAL LITERATURE THAT HIGH PR0TEIN CAUSES KIDNEY DAMAGE IN HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS. 0N THE C0NTRARY, IT ACTUALLY STRENGTHEN THE KIDNEYS AND THE KINDEYS ARE DAMAGED WITH L0W PR0TEIN INTAKE. Y0U PULLED THAT 0NE RIGHT 0UT 0F Y0UR ASS. ALS0, WHY ARE Y0U C0MPARING HIM T0 JAY? JAY IS 0N EVERY DRUG P0SSIBLE AND HIS B0DY GLADLY ABS0RBS ALL THAT PR0TEIN.
Before you attempt to type out a mediocre response filled with caps and zeros in place of the letter "O" check your facts moron..
You are DEAD wrong.
Here are a couple of articles from refutable sources:
Straight from Harvard:
"Too much protein may cause reduced kidney function"
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2003/03.13/09-kidney.html (http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2003/03.13/09-kidney.html)
Cleveland Clinic:
http://www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/114/cleveland_clinic.htm (http://www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/114/cleveland_clinic.htm)
From the Mayo Clinic:
"A high-protein diet may cause or worsen liver or kidney problems "
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/high-protein-diets/AN00847
http://www.bmj.com/content/325/7361/408.5.extract
Effect of high protein diet on stone-forming propensity and bone loss in rats.Amanzadeh J, Gitomer WL, Zerwekh JE, Preisig PA, Moe OW, Pak CY, Levi M.
Center for Mineral Metabolism and Clinical Research and Department of Internal Medicine, University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, Dallas, Texas 75390-8885, USA.
Comment in:
Kidney Int. 2004 May;65(5):1970; author reply 1970.
Abstract
BACKGROUND: High protein diets are believed to cause kidney stone formation and bone loss, but the mechanisms mediating these changes are unknown. The purpose of this study was to create an animal model of animal protein excess and to evaluate the response of kidney and bone to the dietary protein load.
METHODS: Rats (12 per group) were pair-fed with a high (48%) and low (12%) casein diets that were otherwise identical in their content of sodium, potassium, calcium, phosphorus, and magnesium.
RESULTS: Compared with the low casein group, the high casein group delivered a substantial acid load during 59 days of study, since it significantly decreased urinary pH, and increased urinary ammonium, titratable acidity, and net acid excretion. Animals on high casein diet also had higher urinary volumes. On the high casein diet, urinary calcium excretion was significantly higher and urinary citrate excretion and concentration was significantly lower. On the high casein diet, urinary saturation of calcium phosphate was higher. Serum calcitriol concentration did not significantly differ between the two groups. Histomorphometric analysis of femur procured after 59 days on the diet showed marked increase in bone resorption in the high casein group. Hypocitraturia was associated with increased activity of sodium-citrate cotransporter in renal cortical brush-border membranes (BBM) in the high casein group.
CONCLUSION: Both the kidney and bone contribute to the pathogenesis of hypercalciuria during high casein diet in rats. Hypocitraturia is probably renal in origin. This rat model will be useful in elucidating the mechanisms by which high protein intake increases the risk of nephrolithiasis and bone loss in human beings.
This piece: "Kidney failure. Consuming too much protein puts a strain on the kidneys, which can make a person susceptible to kidney disease."
~ obtained from: http://www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/114/cleveland_clinic.htm (http://www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/114/cleveland_clinic.htm)
Another refutable source: Brenner, B. Dietary protein intake and the progressive nature of kidney disease. N. Engl. J. Med. 307:652, 1982
Now shut the fuck up and go crawl under that rock you came out of, I love how these little pussies always like to talk without any backing of their claims.
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It helps out alot. 8)
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Before you attempt to type out a mediocre response filled with caps and zeros in place of the letter "O" check your facts moron..
You are DEAD wrong.
Here are a couple of articles from refutable sources:
Straight from Harvard:
"Too much protein may cause reduced kidney function"
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2003/03.13/09-kidney.html (http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2003/03.13/09-kidney.html)
Cleveland Clinic:
http://www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/114/cleveland_clinic.htm (http://www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/114/cleveland_clinic.htm)
From the Mayo Clinic:
"A high-protein diet may cause or worsen liver or kidney problems "
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/high-protein-diets/AN00847
http://www.bmj.com/content/325/7361/408.5.extract
Effect of high protein diet on stone-forming propensity and bone loss in rats.Amanzadeh J, Gitomer WL, Zerwekh JE, Preisig PA, Moe OW, Pak CY, Levi M.
Center for Mineral Metabolism and Clinical Research and Department of Internal Medicine, University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, Dallas, Texas 75390-8885, USA.
Comment in:
Kidney Int. 2004 May;65(5):1970; author reply 1970.
Abstract
BACKGROUND: High protein diets are believed to cause kidney stone formation and bone loss, but the mechanisms mediating these changes are unknown. The purpose of this study was to create an animal model of animal protein excess and to evaluate the response of kidney and bone to the dietary protein load.
METHODS: Rats (12 per group) were pair-fed with a high (48%) and low (12%) casein diets that were otherwise identical in their content of sodium, potassium, calcium, phosphorus, and magnesium.
RESULTS: Compared with the low casein group, the high casein group delivered a substantial acid load during 59 days of study, since it significantly decreased urinary pH, and increased urinary ammonium, titratable acidity, and net acid excretion. Animals on high casein diet also had higher urinary volumes. On the high casein diet, urinary calcium excretion was significantly higher and urinary citrate excretion and concentration was significantly lower. On the high casein diet, urinary saturation of calcium phosphate was higher. Serum calcitriol concentration did not significantly differ between the two groups. Histomorphometric analysis of femur procured after 59 days on the diet showed marked increase in bone resorption in the high casein group. Hypocitraturia was associated with increased activity of sodium-citrate cotransporter in renal cortical brush-border membranes (BBM) in the high casein group.
CONCLUSION: Both the kidney and bone contribute to the pathogenesis of hypercalciuria during high casein diet in rats. Hypocitraturia is probably renal in origin. This rat model will be useful in elucidating the mechanisms by which high protein intake increases the risk of nephrolithiasis and bone loss in human beings.
This piece: "Kidney failure. Consuming too much protein puts a strain on the kidneys, which can make a person susceptible to kidney disease."
~ obtained from: http://www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/114/cleveland_clinic.htm (http://www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/114/cleveland_clinic.htm)
Another refutable source: Brenner, B. Dietary protein intake and the progressive nature of kidney disease. N. Engl. J. Med. 307:652, 1982
Now shut the fuck up and go crawl under that rock you came out of, I love how these little pussies always like to talk without any backing of their claims.
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Y0U ARE A FUCKING M0R0N AND D0 N0T UNDERSTAND WHAT MEDICAL LITERATURE IS.
Y0U FIRST STUDY LET'S SEE. Researchers at Brigham and Women’s Hospital (BWH) have found that high-protein diets may be associated with kidney function decline in women who already have mildly reduced kidney function. IN MIDLY REDUCED KIDNEY FUNCTI0N. D0 Y0U UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS? THIS MEANS THEIR KIDNEYS ARE ALREADY DAMAGED. I'M TALKING AB0UT HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS. Y0U SEC0ND ARTICLE. DR GRAYS0N CLEVELAND CLINIC GIVING HIS FALSE 0PINI0N WITH N0 STUDY D0NE? ARE Y0U SERI0US. GTF0 0UT HERE WITH THAT 0NE. Y0UR LAST 0NE. DR GRAYS0N SH0ULD N0T EVEN BE A D0CT0R BECAUSE HE HAS N0 IDEA WHAT KET0SIS IS.
L0L AT KET0SIS BEING DANGER0US IN HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS. KET0SIS IS N0T DANGER0US AT ALL AND THE BRAINS L0VES KET0NES 0NCE ADAPTED T0 THEM. LET'S SEE WHAT R0BERT VEECH AN ACTUAL MEDICAL D0CT0R HAD T0 SAY AB0UT THIS. VEECH IS THE W0RLD'S LEADING RESEARCHER 0N KET0NES.
I quote the article: " 'Doctors are scared of ketosis,' says Richard Veech, an N.I.H. [National Institutes of
Health]researcher who studied medicine at Harvard and then got his doctorate at Oxford University with
the Nobel Laureate Hans Krebs. ''They're always worried about diabetic ketoacidosis. But ketosis is a normal
physiologic state."
"Simply put, ketosis is evolution's answer to the thrifty gene. We may have evolved to efficiently store fat for
times of famine, says Veech, but we also evolved ketosis to efficiently live off that fat when necessary. Rather
than being poison, which is how the press often refers to ketones, they make the body run more efficiently
and provide a backup fuel source for the brain. Veech calls ketones ''magic'' and has shown that both the
heart and brain run 25 percent more efficiently on ketones than on blood sugar."
http://www.medicalvitadiet.com.au/docs/vita_ketosis.pdf
High protein diet brings risk of kidney stones
Scott Gottlieb
+ Author Affiliations
New York
Diets heavy on foods that are high in protein and low in carbohydrates can increase the risk of kidney stones and reduce the body's ability to absorb calcium after just six weeks.
INCREASE THE RISK FR0M KIDNEY ST0NES AFTER 6 WEEKS? L0L. IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN EVERY0NE HERE AND EVERY B0DYBUILDER SH0ULD HAVE 0NE KIDNEY REMAINING. IN DAMAGED KIDNEYS, YES IT CAN. IN HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS? N0 IT CAN'T.
These findings from a new study come at a time when an increasing number of Americans, seduced by anecdotal accounts of fast weight loss, are turning to low carbohydrate, high protein diets. Popularised by Dr Robert Atkins, these diets are having a revival after a recent cover story in the New … CAN'T EVEN SEE THE FULL TEXT. I'M BETTING THEY ARE D0NE 0N PE0PLE WITH REDUCED KIDNEY FUNCTI0N AGAIN. I'M STILL WAITING F0R Y0U T0 SH0W ME A STUDY D0NE 0N HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS AND N0T PE0PLE WITH REDUCED KIDNEY FUNCTI0NS. Y0U DUMB FUCK. TYPICAL 0F UNEDUCATED PE0PLE P0STING AN 0PINI0N 0F A D0CT0R WITH N0 STUDY T0 BACK IT UP FR0M THE CLEVELAND CLINIC. IN FACT EVERY STUDY THAT WAS D0NE 0N A HIGH PR0TEIN HIGH FAT L0W CARB DIET IMPR0VED BL00D LIPIDS AND DECREASED B0DY FAT. HIGH GLUC0SE LEVELS 0N THE 0THER HAND FR0M EXCESSIVE INTAKE 0F SUGAR AND CARBS HAVE BEEN SH0WN T0 DAMAGE THE KIDNEYS.
REGARDING THE RATS. THAT IS JUST T00 FUNNY. AN INCREASE IN ACID LEVELS. W0RKING 0UT CAUSE THE M0ST AM0UNT 0F ACID IN Y0UR B0DY. THAT STUDY DID N0T PR0VE ANYTHING AB0UT CERTAIN PR0TEIN LEVELS DAMAGING HUMAN KIDNEYS IN HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS. TRY AGAIN. VERY P00R STUDY 0N THE RATS. HERE LET ME SH0W Y0U 0NE.
http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/287/4/R934.short
A long-term high-protein diet markedly reduces adipose tissue without major side effects in Wistar male rats
Magali Lacroix,1 Claire Gaudichon,1 Antoine Martin,2 Céline Morens,1 Véronique Mathé,1 Daniel Tomé,1 and Jean-François Huneau1
1Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, Unité de Physiologie de la Nutrition et du Comportement alimentaire, Institut National Agronomique Paris-Grignon, 75231 Paris cedex 05; and 2Service d'Anatomie Pathologique, Hôpital Avicenne, 93000 Bobigny, France
Submitted 13 February 2004 ; accepted in final form 14 May 2004
Although there is a considerable interest of high-protein, low-carbohydrate diets to manage weight control, their safety is still the subject of considerable debate. They are suspected to be detrimental to the renal and hepatic functions, calcium balance, and insulin sensitivity. However, the long-term effects of a high-protein diet on a broad range of parameters have not been investigated. We studied the effects of a high-protein diet in rats over a period of 6 mo. Forty-eight Wistar male rats received either a normal-protein (NP: 14% protein) or high-protein (HP: 50% protein) diet. Detailed body composition, plasma hormones and nutrients, liver and kidney histopathology, hepatic markers of oxidative stress and detoxification, and the calcium balance were investigated. No major alterations of the liver and kidneys were found in HP rats, whereas NP rats exhibited massive hepatic steatosis. The calcium balance was unchanged, and detoxification markers (GSH and GST) were enhanced moderately in the HP group. In contrast, HP rats showed a sharp reduction in white adipose tissue and lower basal concentrations of triglycerides, glucose, leptin, and insulin. Our study suggests that the long-term consumption of an HP diet in male rats has no deleterious effects and could prevent metabolic syndrome.
hormones; glucose; body composition; histology
THEY ATE A DIET 0F 50 PERCENT PR0TEIN WITH N0 SIDE EFFECTS F0R 6 FUCKING M0NTHS. 50 FUCKING PERCENT. D0 Y0U KN0W H0W MUCH PR0TEIN THAT IS? EVERYTHING DECREASED FR0M BL00D LEVELS T0 GLUC0SE LEVELS WITH N0 KIDNEY DAMAGE.THIS IS AN ACTUAL STUDY THAT MEASURED L0NG TERM RESULTS AND DIDN'T TALK AB0UT RISKS WHICH ARE ALL BASELESS. Y0U ARE JUST A PLAIN ZEAL0T THAT'S ALL. D0N'T TRY T0 DEBATE WITH ME 0N THIS T0PIC 0R ANYTHING AB0UT NUTRITI0N. I KN0W M0RE AB0UT THIS THEN M0ST PE0PLE.
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It's not whether or not he can eat that amount, it's whether or not his kidneys can survive on that amount in the long run.
As a matter of fact, I will retract my above statement and make it slightly more elaborate.
The human body isn't made to sustain a 5'8 300 pound man that eats like a morbidly obese human being. The Kidneys are pretty delicate in that large amounts of protein consumed can cause serious damage. I call bullshit on his claims, because most human beings would suffer from acute renal failure due to kidney stones following such a diet. At the very least, he is certainly in line for a kidney stone or two.
Have you every tried consuming 500 grams of protein daily for a year? Give that a try and let us know how that works out for you.
Also, I could be mistaken, but the common recognized value for caloric intake that translate into weight gain is 1 pound = 3,500 calories. Assuming Jay burns half of the calories he takes in daily (Highly doubt), can he be gaining a pound every day?
This is speculation on my part, but I still call bullshit.
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Why would I eat 500 grams of protein a day for a year, when I'm not Cutler's size? I eat closer to 300 grams of protein, which isn't that hard when half of it comes from protein shakes. Cutler can just as easily ingest 500 grams, given that he eats way more regular food than I do and likely takes in more protein per shake (probably around the 80-90 gram mark).
Plenty of bodybuilders his size (or larger) ingest that much protein. Yet, for some reason, they aren't all on dialysis. We don't see legions of bodybuilders or powerlifters on waiting lists for kidney donations.
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Why would I eat 500 grams of protein a day for a year, when I'm not Cutler's size? I eat closer to 300 grams of protein, which isn't that hard when half of it comes from protein shakes. Cutler can just as easily ingest 500 grams, given that he eats way more regular food than I do and likely takes in more protein per shake (probably around the 80-90 gram mark).
Plenty of bodybuilders his size (or larger) ingest that much protein. Yet, for some reason, they aren't all on dialysis. We don't see legions of bodybuilders or powerlifters on waiting lists for kidney donations.
S0ME 0F TH0SE STUDIES WERE ALS0 D0NE 0N 0BESE INDIVIDUALS WH0 EAT A T0N 0F PR0CESSED F00DS AND TRANS FAT AND ALL THE BLAME WAS PUT 0N HIGH PR0TEIN. 0N T0P 0F THAT, THEY ALREADY HAD KIDNEYS THAT WERE DAMAGED. IT'S AN EASY WAY T0 SKEW A STUDY BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY PR0VING IT DEADLY.
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do protein powders really work or am i wasting my $$ and should just stick with eggwhites
waisting money,,all bodybuildr need is real food and drinkable eggwhites,,poweder make you retain water that you think is size but its not,,water shoud be inside the muscle and not out....if its outside muscle no matter how big you are its not lean size it,,,thats why you see 200lb fellas wipe floor with 260 lb fellas...ask yourself this friend,,why do you see fellas 260lb walking in gym then come competition they go on stage 201lb...and look leik shit! ask yourself why,,they are 260 8% right? so why losing so much ? the answer is WATER,,THE WAY THEY HOLD THE WATER!..the reason frank zane was one of the greatest bodybuildrs is because he just held the weight in the right zone,,,he had water between muscle and skin and ofcourswe in the muscle...but! he didnt have too much of it to create the illusion he was huge...just later to find out he was nothign but big gut....
the hardest thing is to walk around truly 30-32 inch waist and be a bodybuildr,,thats the thing most generation nothingess fail at and the reason they can not match us from 80s and 90s....
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7k cals easily for a pro of Jay's size.
I get down at least 5k every day when Im bulking.
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He`d have a smaller waist,look more streamlined,have a better V-shape,if he ate far less.
Never cared for his physique.
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I think you may have diabetes, 240.
I'm not sure you've ever looked lean in any of your pictures. Guys with lightning metabolisms stay fairly lean.
I think you're just overeating.
No hate :D
he has no diabeters what he suffer from is thick skin that can come due to few reasons! ,,1 is from being fat as in skinny fat from eating too much chinese and mcdonalds back in the day,,2 genetic in the family or of his people aka middle east etc,, those fellas can be lean but dont always see how ripped they are ONLY due to water held on the physiqe between skin and muscle,,for that you have what we call diazide and aldactazide that bodybuild use right and left ...all of us use it !,,the ones with thick skin aka mr dan hill HAVE TO USE IT,,
ofcourse fellas of the such can be very lean and ripped by just only using the trenbolona ace for months and some prop...with gh they become very very lean and the trenbolona get them ripped with no need for cardio ,,no one does cardio on trenbolonsa simply because therer is no need for cardio ,,infact i recomend eating more icecream on trenbolona and gh ...
so overall those fellas can be lean and ripped but! for shredded they wil have to find a solution for their water problem ,,it is a problem of about 10 lb 5-15 somewhere around there,,you can do it naturaly by malipulating sodium and carbs ...i ofcourse do not recomend it because those fellas are highly sensetive and will drop lean mass if playing too much with natural shit,,soooooo we are left with the drugs,,and the drugs should be higher doses of trenbolona ace,, reduction of testosterona,, elimination of gh for number of weeks,,and! increaee in the masteron doses while trying out a diuretic when 6%,,again the key is duration of trenbolona and masterona and last thing adding the POTASSIUM SPARING DIURETIC! then the fella wil walk around 5-6% with the sucktion phenomena you fellas like to be infatuated with and when you see it in gym you stand in awe and give the bodybuilder respect even if he has 38 inch gut ....
try do it all 30-34 inch waist it is much much better for bodybuild before jumping on insulina ,,
the failed bodybuilders who hate bodybuilding today are the coach types who were playing around with 225 5;6 yada dee yada daa,,,had abs but ofcourse were water fountain from within and from without,, soooo when they go on stage they had to lose tons of weight....not the right way friends,,try to do it the frank zane way,,the 80s way ,,much better and healthier way to become sucesful bodybuilr,,
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Nothing you have said disputes what I posted. I will leave it at that, because any MED student, Doctor or even A&P professor will tell you that prolonged consumption of large amounts of protein will cause inevitable kidney damage, be it by the formation of stones that leads to acute renal failure or otherwise.
Again, you're not worth debating with, because you are clearly not that smart.
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Nothing you have said disputes what I posted. I will leave it at that, because any MED student, Doctor or even A&P professor will tell you that prolonged consumption of large amounts of protein will cause inevitable kidney damage, be it by the formation of stones that leads to acute renal failure or otherwise.
Again, you're not worth debating with, because you are clearly not that smart.
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A PERFECT RESP0NSE FR0M S0ME0NE WH0 G0T 0WNED. EVERYTHING I SAID DISPUTES WHAT Y0U SAID. YET Y0U C0ULDN'T NAME 0NE STUDY THAT SH0WS HIGH PR0TEIN DANGER0US IN HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS AND Y0U CITED QUAKADEMICS T0 PR0VE Y0UR P0INT WH0 THINK KET0SIS IS DANGER0US IN HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS AND YET Y0U STILL CLAIM THAT HIGH PR0TEIN IS DANGER0US WITH N0 PR00F. Y0U PR0VED 0NCE AGAIN Y0U ARE A ZEAL0T. Y0U CAN LEAVE N0W THANKS AND CHANGE Y0UR 1 T0 ZER0. I'M D0NE DEBATING WITH KIDS.
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Nothing you have said disputes what I posted. I will leave it at that, because any MED student, Doctor or even A&P professor will tell you that prolonged consumption of large amounts of protein will cause inevitable kidney damage, be it by the formation of stones that leads to acute renal failure or otherwise.
Again, you're not worth debating with, because you are clearly not that smart.
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I've mentioned this before but there was this program on National Geographic about this tribe in the Artic or Anartic. I forget which. They theorized that they got stranded during the migration during the ice age. Anyway, all they do do they follow the Caribou where they get everything they need to survive. Their clothes, tents, candles and food. They get virtually no, or just no, carbohydrates. Only protein and fat from Caribou meat. Assuming they consume 2,500 calories to survive and the meat is say 20% fat they would still be consuming 500 grams of protein/day.
Of course, I don't know how long their average life span is of any disease that predominate. But amino acids can be converted to glucose for energy whereas carbs/glucose cannot be converted to amino acids.
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When he plans his trips he must need to ring ahead to verify he is never more than 200yrds from a toilet. His wife must lie on the hotel bed and turn up the TV in order to block out the explosive fart-echo coming from the toilet bowl as she listens to her husband empty his bowels and pray that the extraction fan is working this time..
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I've mentioned this before but there was this program on National Geographic about this tribe in the Artic or Anartic. I forget which. They theorized that they got stranded during the migration during the ice age. Anyway, all they do do they follow the Caribou where they get everything they need to survive. Their clothes, tents, candles and food. They get virtually no, or just no, carbohydrates. Only protein and fat from Caribou meat. Assuming they consume 2,500 calories to survive and the meat is say 20% fat they would still be consuming 500 grams of protein/day.
Of course, I don't know how long their average life span is of any disease that predominate. But amino acids can be converted to glucose for energy whereas carbs/glucose cannot be converted to amino acids.
I'M AWARE 0F TH0SE TRIBES. IN THE RAT STUDY I P0STED DET0XIFICATI0N LEVELS WENT UP. L0W PR0TEIN ACTUALLY DAMAGES AND WEAKENS THE KIDNEYS.
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I'm curious what a typical eating day is like for Jay off-season. Can't imagine how much that fucker can put down in a day. Whew !
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Nothing you have said disputes what I posted. I will leave it at that, because any MED student, Doctor or even A&P professor will tell you that prolonged consumption of large amounts of protein will cause inevitable kidney damage, be it by the formation of stones that leads to acute renal failure or otherwise.
Again, you're not worth debating with, because you are clearly not that smart.
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bro, c'mon. seriously??????...... You can't possibly believe this shit. Studies you are reading aren't' meant in the real world their meant for average, conservative, timid masses and only for show. Off course if an average 145 lb collage students eats 500 grams of protein a day, their may be a problem, but we are talking about bodybuilders who have built tolerance and have gradually increase their protein intake throughout the years.. There are sumo wrestles that drink a case of beer a day for years. I know a guy who smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day and has for the last 25 years, according to studies he should have had cancer 15 years a go. studies mean nothing in the real world, stop being so gullible. 500 grams of protein a day is no big deal in fact i think he is lying and just being conservative with these figure. 600-800 is what I would've guessed
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I've mentioned this before but there was this program on National Geographic about this tribe in the Artic or Anartic. I forget which. They theorized that they got stranded during the migration during the ice age. Anyway, all they do do they follow the Caribou where they get everything they need to survive. Their clothes, tents, candles and food. They get virtually no, or just no, carbohydrates. Only protein and fat from Caribou meat. Assuming they consume 2,500 calories to survive and the meat is say 20% fat they would still be consuming 500 grams of protein/day.
Of course, I don't know how long their average life span is of any disease that predominate. But amino acids can be converted to glucose for energy whereas carbs/glucose cannot be converted to amino acids.
carbs are amino acids asshole
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All cornfed.
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he's a fucking pig
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What's funny is that this same debate between asbrus and I is typical of the type of debates that I have had before with Palumbo and Collete in person.
They would always jump into the entire talk about Ketosis and it's role in diets.
I say this again and for the last time, the same theories and views that I expressed here are the views that every single doctor holds true to based on what they are taught in med school.
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There actually isn't any conclusive scientific evidence that protein intake induces kidney damage in otherwise healthy kidneys.
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What's funny is that this same debate between asbrus and I is typical of the type of debates that I have had before with Palumbo and Collete in person.
They would always jump into the entire talk about Ketosis and it's role in diets.
I say this again and for the last time, the same theories and views that I expressed here are the views that every single doctor holds true to based on what they are taught in med school.
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WHERE D0 Y0U GET THIS VIEW THAT EVERY SINGLE D0CT0R H0LDS THIS BELIEF AS TRUE? 0NLY QUACKADAMECIS D0. A RESPECTABLE D0CT0R AND 0NE WH0 ACTUALLY G0ES BY FACTS AND N0T 0PINI0NS DISAGREES WITH EVERYTHING Y0U SAY BECAUSE THEY ARE THE FACTS AND N0T BELIEFS. ACTUALLY IN MEDICAL SCH00L THEY G0 BY FACTS RATHER THAN BELIEFS. IF Y0U D0N'T HAVE A STUDY PR0VING Y0UR P0INT Y0U ARE A QUAKADEMIC. A ZEAL0T IS A PERS0N WH0 HAS A STR0NG BELIEF 0R THE0RY REGARDLESS 0F THE FACTS PRESENTED T0 HIM. FACTS>THE0RIES,VIEWS 0R BELIEFS
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WHERE D0 Y0U GET THIS VIEW THAT EVERY SINGLE D0CT0R H0LDS THIS BELIEF AS TRUE? 0NLY QUACKADAMECIS D0. A RESPECTABLE D0CT0R AND 0NE WH0 ACTUALLY G0ES BY FACTS AND N0T 0PINI0NS DISAGREES WITH EVERYTHING Y0U SAY BECAUSE THEY ARE THE FACTS AND N0T BELIEFS. ACTUALLY IN MEDICAL SCH00L THEY G0 BY FACTS RATHER THAN BELIEFS. IF Y0U D0N'T HAVE A STUDY PR0VING Y0UR P0INT Y0U ARE A QUAKADEMIC. A ZEAL0T IS A PERS0N WH0 HAS A STR0NG BELIEF 0R THE0RY REGARDLESS 0F THE FACTS PRESENTED T0 HIM. FACTS>THE0RIES,VIEWS 0R BELIEFS
Dude,
Next time you pass by Barnes N Nobles pick up a copy of Harrison's Internal Medicine and you will see that some of the causes for acute renal failure and also kidney stones includes large consumption of animal protein.
It's a common fact shared by most internists.
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Dude,
Next time you pass by Barnes N Nobles pick up a copy of Harrison's Internal Medicine and you will see that some of the causes for acute renal failure and also kidney stones includes large consumption of animal protein.
It's a common fact shared by most internists.
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0KAY WELL I'D BE GLAD F0R Y0U T0 P0ST 0NE STUDY 0F THIS.
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0KAY WELL I'D BE GLAD F0R Y0U T0 P0ST 0NE STUDY 0F THIS.
I'm telling you what the bible of internal medicine states. The same textbook that is used by practically every MED student.
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..But again, I don't really care too much either way. If you think that proving me wrong either way makes a difference, it doesn't.
I don't consume over 100 grams of protein daily. I honestly don't think it's necessary.
My opinion is that Cutler is not being truthful about his true intake.
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I'm telling you what the bible of internal medicine states. The same textbook that is used by practically every MED student.
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RENAL FAILURE IS N0T CAUSED BY ANIMAL PR0TEIN. IT IS CAUSED BY GLYCATI0N AND GLYCATED HEM0GL0BINS WHICH RESULT IN HIGH BL00D SUGAR AND GLUC0SE LEVELS. CHECK THE BIBLE AGAIN. Y0U'RE MISINF0RMED.
Modification of low density lipoprotein by advanced glycation end products contributes to the dyslipidemia of diabetes and renal insufficiency
http://www.pnas.org/content/91/20/9441.short
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..But again, I don't really care too much either way. If you think that proving me wrong either way makes a difference, it doesn't.
I don't consume over 100 grams of protein daily. I honestly don't think it's necessary.
My opinion is that Cutler is not being truthful about his true intake.
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CUTLER EASILY TAKES IN 500 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN A DAY. WHEN Y0U ARE THAT BIG 300 LBS 0F MUSCLE MASS AND ARE TAKING THAT MANY DRUGS, Y0UR B0DY CAN ABS0RB THE PR0TEIN.
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if hes 300 ronnie is 400lbs and gunter was 450 and kovakas 900
he dont eat that much and he dont spend 2hrs a day in a gym on avg
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5000-6000 calories is not that much,,for the 250lb lean muscle bodybuilder on so omuch hormones its ok ,,you get there very easily by eating ice cream ,,eggwhites,,pasta or rice with sushi ,,no gluten pizzas,,german ,,jamaican ,,burgers,, you get there very easily ,,he take between 4500-6000 a day ,,
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he's a fucking pig
that must spend a whole lotta time poopin...
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Is it worth it?
To eat like a fucking pig and inject chemicals constantly.
Just for the muscles?
I don't think so.
Some people are just obsessed and wrecklessly dive into it head first though.
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Is it worth it?
To eat like a fucking pig and inject chemicals constantly.
Just for the muscles?
I don't think so.
Some people are just obsessed and wrecklessly dive into it head first though.
THE WAY I SEE IT IS Y0U CAN HAVE L0TS 0F MUSCLES NATURALLY AND SEEM BIG T0 THE AVERAGE PERS0N.
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THE WAY I SEE IT IS Y0U CAN HAVE L0TS 0F MUSCLES NATURALLY AND SEEM BIG T0 THE AVERAGE PERS0N.
That's how I see it too.
There's nothing wrong with using some gear and eating a healthy high-protien diet. But the force feeding and the megadosing is some fucked up shit.
Michael Phelps eat 10,000 calories per day, but he's burning up those cals. These bodybuilders just eat like that and sit around getting bloated.
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What's funny is that this same debate between asbrus and I is typical of the type of debates that I have had before with Palumbo and Collete in person.
They would always jump into the entire talk about Ketosis and it's role in diets.
I say this again and for the last time, the same theories and views that I expressed here are the views that every single doctor holds true to based on what they are taught in med school.
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Youa are a spoiled phag aren't you? You do not master reason, the only thing you master is somebody's cock!
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One more - the studies you posted were conducted on people with ailing kidneys and lab rats. Also, notice that their conclusions contain the words "may" and "could" cause... There is no definitive proof it causes kidney failure.
I do agree though that it is most certainly not necessary to eat that much protein, especially if not a major drug abuser.
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It's not whether or not he can eat that amount, it's whether or not his kidneys can survive on that amount in the long run.
As a matter of fact, I will retract my above statement and make it slightly more elaborate.
The human body isn't made to sustain a 5'8 300 pound man that eats like a morbidly obese human being. The Kidneys are pretty delicate in that large amounts of protein consumed can cause serious damage. I call bullshit on his claims, because most human beings would suffer from acute renal failure due to kidney stones following such a diet. At the very least, he is certainly in line for a kidney stone or two.
Have you every tried consuming 500 grams of protein daily for a year? Give that a try and let us know how that works out for you.
Also, I could be mistaken, but the common recognized value for caloric intake that translate into weight gain is 1 pound = 3,500 calories. Assuming Jay burns half of the calories he takes in daily (Highly doubt), can he be gaining a pound every day?
This is speculation on my part, but I still call bullshit.
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I'm in late on this thread but want to comment on this. It may have already been address and I'm just repeating what already have been stated. I come from a family of 7 kids and I easily eat more than double the amount of protein than anyone in my family and have done so for decades. I've cut back a lot recently but still probably get 200 grams/day. I use to shoot for at least 300 grams but routinely went well over.
Two of my brothers have had kidney stones and one seriously and more than once. They both described it as the most painful experience they ever had. I've never had any kidney problems. So there are many factors involve with kidney problems. Both of these brothers are over weight and not exactly health nuts.
Having said that I absolutely, positively agree that the human body was never meant to carry the amount of weight and certainly not the amount of muscle mass as a Jay Cutler at his height. It should be painfully obvious when you consider what a person must do, what Jay must do, to develop and maintain such an enormous amount of muscle mass. I believe that their health problems do not mostly come from anabolics and peptides (rec drugs/diuretics are a different story) per se. Nor does it come from the huge amount of food they eat (I believe that Michael Phelps eat as much as he says he does but is able to burn off those calories). I believe their health problems come from simply being so big. Carrying so much muscle. There's a reason why it's so hard to build muscle beyond normal levels. Your body doesn't want it and will fight it every step of the way and given the slightest excuse will shed muscle quickly. Ever had your arm or leg in a cast of six weeks? The amount of atrophy makes your limb almost unrecognizable.
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if hes 300 ronnie is 400lbs and gunter was 450 and kovakas 900
he dont eat that much and he dont spend 2hrs a day in a gym on avg
LOL @ you, son.
You think Jay holds dumbbells in his hands when he steps on scale? You idiot. We have seen many times him stepping on scale in videos and readings were approximately 300 lbs. Clothes on but they don't weigh much. For you, let's say ok he weighs about 295 without clothes and with less fat in his body than you can ever dream. Happy?
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I believe he eats more than that....whats so hard to believe.. ???
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I believe he eats more than that....whats so hard to believe.. ???
I don't know.
These morons believe with bright eyes that some twink Phelps consumes 100 000 000 calories a day but not that 300 pound muscle monster eats 7000 a day.. ::)
Huh. There is no logic. SOme here just argue about everything said about pros LOL
Yes, there is lot to criticize but still... it must hurt to some to realize they never will grow significant muscle mass themselves no matter what...
Now this one moron above claimed Jay is not weighing about 300 pounds :D MORONMORONMORONMORON ;D
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Where's the problem, the average american eats 7000 calories a day.
With all that HGH, roids, T3, ECA, Clen, DNP he surely can eat that much.
Probably supplements with this as well:
(http://www.evitamins.com/images/products/1400/20100514_27.jpg)
(http://www.evitamins.com/images/products/1400/20100514_28.jpg)
Serving Size5Scoops(approx. 635gm)
Servings Per Container~3
Calories 2600
Protein 184GM
Carbohydrates 391GM
Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCT) 46GM
Fat 0GM
Directions For Vitol Russian Bear 5000 Weight Gainer: As a dietary food supplement, mix one serving together with one gallon of whole milk and drink throughout the day.
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I don't know.
These morons believe with bright eyes that some twink Phelps consumes 100 000 000 calories a day but not that 300 pound muscle monster eats 7000 a day.. ::)
Huh. There is no logic. SOme here just argue about everything said about pros LOL
Yes, there is lot to criticize but still... it must hurt to some to realize they never will grow significant muscle mass themselves no matter what...
Now this one moron above claimed Jay is not weighing about 300 pounds :D MORONMORONMORONMORON ;D
did i kill some sorta sexual fantasy off for ya? ya sound like a cry baby that finds out that the girls hes jerking off too has a push up bra or something.
In the current shape hes in hes no 300, sorry for killing off your early AM stroke session but it is what it is.
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did i kill some sorta sexual fantasy off for ya? ya sound like a cry baby that finds out that the girls hes jerking off too has a push up bra or something.
In the current shape hes in hes no 300, sorry for killing off your early AM stroke session but it is what it is.
WTF epic back peddling :D
His weight fluctuates a lot because of all the travelling etc.
It was not too long ago we saw him weighing about 300 pounds... in good shape.
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That's how I see it too.
There's nothing wrong with using some gear and eating a healthy high-protien diet. But the force feeding and the megadosing is some fucked up shit.
Michael Phelps eat 10,000 calories per day, but he's burning up those cals. These bodybuilders just eat like that and sit around getting bloated.
Yeh he's burning up those calories from swimming (highly doubt it's 10,000 anyway) and he's on a shitload of GH and gear too.
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Yeh he's burning up those calories from swimming (highly doubt it's 10,000 anyway) and he's on a shitload of GH and gear too.
this.
But no way he eats that much, he doesn't have the time for it as he is training all day.
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this.
But no way he eats that much, he doesn't have the time for it as he is training all day.
10,000 is ridiculous, maybe 1 day he might have done that if he'd been training a week straight and had a day off.
But if he ate 6 times a day at 2,000 cals or so a time it would take hours to digest and he would never do anything else let alone swim.
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Possible.
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Possible.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=373636.0;attach=410685;image)
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Phelps said he ate approximately 12,000 calories per day during the 2008 Summer Olympics.
This included a breakfast of three fried egg sandwiches, a five-egg omelet, three pieces of French toast, three pancakes and grits. Lunch was typically a pound of pasta and two sandwiches. For dinner, he would eat an entire large pizza and a pound of pasta... basically whatever crap he could get ahold of.
He weighed 165 lbs.
Just how many calories do you think it takes to swim? Even if you could swim all day, could you do it with a stomach full of food?
Competitive swimmers can only race well on an empty stomach, otherwise they get exactly the same results as a long distance runner gets : The shits.
You would get such a fucking nasty stomach ache along with some nasty cramping if you tried to eat that much and swim. Phelps would have been shitting all day long.
I do believe that at times (when he was stoned) he would put down a ton of junk food calories. I doubt very much that he could have accurately counted them and I also doubt that he did this very often.
Do the math on that many calories vs. the metabolism of a guy that weighs 165. Even if he burned 750 an hour (swimming "butterfly")-- how long do you think he could keep it going?
Been there, did that. It's all bullshit.
No, I wasn't an Olympic Swimmer (obviously)- but I swam Far Western and 10 best cut-off right along side them for many years. All I did was swim Butterfly and Freestyle. My times were nothing to laugh at, after all, we are only talking milliseconds that separate the men from the boys here.
Even if Jay Cutler tried to eat that much every day he would just get sick. Real sick.
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Phelps said he ate approximately 12,000 calories per day during the 2008 Summer Olympics.
This included a breakfast of three fried egg sandwiches, a five-egg omelet, three pieces of French toast, three pancakes and grits. Lunch was typically a pound of pasta and two sandwiches. For dinner, he would eat an entire large pizza and a pound of pasta... basically whatever crap he could get ahold of.
He weighed 165 lbs.
Just how many calories do you think it takes to swim? Even if you could swim all day, could you do it with a stomach full of food?
Competitive swimmers can only race well on an empty stomach, otherwise they get exactly the same results as a long distance runner gets : The shits.
You would get such a fucking nasty stomach ache along with some nasty cramping if you tried to eat that much and swim. Phelps would have been shitting all day long.
I do believe that at times (when he was stoned) he would put down a ton of junk food calories. I doubt very much that he could have accurately counted them and I also doubt that he did this very often.
Do the math on that many calories vs. the metabolism of a guy that weighs 165. Even if he burned 750 an hour (swimming "butterfly")-- how long do you think he could keep it going?
Been there, did that. It's all bullshit.
No, I wasn't an Olympic Swimmer (obviously)- but I swam Far Western and 10 best cut-off right along side them for many years. All I did was swim Butterfly and Freestyle. My times were nothing to laugh at, after all, we are only talking milliseconds that separate the men from the boys here.
Even if Jay Cutler tried to eat that much every day he would just get sick. Real sick.
Hardly!!
Again, my diet is arond 3000-3500 calories and 270-300 grams or protein. On average, it's something like this:
Morning shake - 120 calories; 24 grams protein
Breakfast - 400 calories; 35-40 grams protein
Weight Gainer (Mass Fuel Extreme) - 600 calories; 50 grams protein
Lunch - 500 calories; 40 grams protein
Weight Gainer (Mass Fuel Extreme) - 600 calories; 50 grams protein
Post workout shake (Designer whey & Gatorade) - 350 calories; 30 grams protein
Dinner - 450 calories; 40 grams protein
Nighttime snack - 100 calories; 20 grams protein
Total (approximately) - 3,120 calories; 294 grams of protein.
And, I'm nowhere near a pro bodybuilder (or even a top NPC amateur). Yet, we're supposed to think that Jay Cutler can't possibly down much more than that. Also, I'm in my late 30s now; 15 years ago, I could eat considerably more than this.
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I'M AWARE 0F TH0SE TRIBES. IN THE RAT STUDY I P0STED DET0XIFICATI0N LEVELS WENT UP. L0W PR0TEIN ACTUALLY DAMAGES AND WEAKENS THE KIDNEYS.
Do you own or work for a protein supplement company by any chance?
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CUTLER EASILY TAKES IN 500 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN A DAY. WHEN Y0U ARE THAT BIG 300 LBS 0F MUSCLE MASS AND ARE TAKING THAT MANY DRUGS, Y0UR B0DY CAN ABS0RB THE PR0TEIN.
But he's also a diabetic.
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Where's the problem, the average american eats 7000 calories a day.
With all that HGH, roids, T3, ECA, Clen, DNP he surely can eat that much.
Probably supplements with this as well:
(http://www.evitamins.com/images/products/1400/20100514_27.jpg)
(http://www.evitamins.com/images/products/1400/20100514_28.jpg)
Serving Size5Scoops(approx. 635gm)
Servings Per Container~3
Calories 2600
Protein 184GM
Carbohydrates 391GM
Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCT) 46GM
Fat 0GM
Directions For Vitol Russian Bear 5000 Weight Gainer: As a dietary food supplement, mix one serving together with one gallon of whole milk and drink throughout the day.
Holy shit! :o
A sure fire recipe to became a fat pile of shit in the least time possible!
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clearly off-season
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Holy shit! :o
A sure fire recipe to became a fat pile of shit in the least time possible!
I don't think that's supposed to be consumed at one shot. It does say "drink throughout the day".
From the looks of this, you should divide this into three servings. That would yield approximately 867 calories, 61 grams of protein, 130 grams of carbs, and 15 grams of MCTs per serving.
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Phelps said he ate approximately 12,000 calories per day during the 2008 Summer Olympics.
This included a breakfast of three fried egg sandwiches, a five-egg omelet, three pieces of French toast, three pancakes and grits. Lunch was typically a pound of pasta and two sandwiches. For dinner, he would eat an entire large pizza and a pound of pasta... basically whatever crap he could get ahold of.
He weighed 165 lbs.
Just how many calories do you think it takes to swim? Even if you could swim all day, could you do it with a stomach full of food?
Competitive swimmers can only race well on an empty stomach, otherwise they get exactly the same results as a long distance runner gets : The shits.
You would get such a fucking nasty stomach ache along with some nasty cramping if you tried to eat that much and swim. Phelps would have been shitting all day long.
I do believe that at times (when he was stoned) he would put down a ton of junk food calories. I doubt very much that he could have accurately counted them and I also doubt that he did this very often.
Do the math on that many calories vs. the metabolism of a guy that weighs 165. Even if he burned 750 an hour (swimming "butterfly")-- how long do you think he could keep it going?
Been there, did that. It's all bullshit.
No, I wasn't an Olympic Swimmer (obviously)- but I swam Far Western and 10 best cut-off right along side them for many years. All I did was swim Butterfly and Freestyle. My times were nothing to laugh at, after all, we are only talking milliseconds that separate the men from the boys here.
Even if Jay Cutler tried to eat that much every day he would just get sick. Real sick.
HE D0SEN'T EAT AND G0 SWIM RIGHT AWAY. HE EATS AND WAIT A C0UPLE 0F H0URS AND THE G0ES T0 SWIM. WHAT'S HARD T0 BELIEVE AB0UT THAT? AFTER HIS TRAINING SESSI0N HE G0ES H0ME AND EATS S0ME M0RE. THEY BURN A L0T 0F CAL0RIES AND 7,000 CALS IS N0T HARD T0 BELIEVE. ALS0 THEY JUST D0N'T SWIM SPRINTS N0N ST0P. THEY'LL TRAIN F0R 6 H0URS A DAY WITH DIFFERENT SESSI0NS W0RKING 0N DIFFERENT ASPECTS 0F SWIMMING AND N0T ALWAYS G0ING FULL BURST. THEY VARY THEIR INTENSITY.
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HE D0SEN'T EAT AND G0 SWIM RIGHT AWAY. HE EATS AND WAIT A C0UPLE 0F H0URS AND THE G0ES T0 SWIM. WHAT'S HARD T0 BELIEVE AB0UT THAT? AFTER HIS TRAINING SESSI0N HE G0ES H0ME AND EATS S0ME M0RE. THEY BURN A L0T 0F CAL0RIES AND 7,000 CALS IS N0T HARD T0 BELIEVE. ALS0 THEY JUST D0N'T SWIM SPRINTS N0N ST0P. THEY'LL TRAIN F0R 6 H0URS A DAY WITH DIFFERENT SESSI0NS W0RKING 0N DIFFERENT ASPECTS 0F SWIMMING AND N0T ALWAYS G0ING FULL BURST. THEY VARY THEIR INTENSITY.
With that many calories ingested, he is always going to have a shit-load of food in his stomach regardless. Get it?
It's not feasible...
Try it yourself and then get back to me. Kill the CAPS while your'e at it, Beavis.
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carbs are amino acids asshole
You've got to be kidding? Carbs are broken down into glucose to be used as energy. Protein is broken down into amino acids.
I'm surprised at you Falcon man. This is pretty elementary stuff.
Amino acids are the building blocks of protein. Amino acids join together and form short chains (peptides) or much longer chains (polypeptides). Over 80 amino acids are known to occur naturally,with 20 found commonly in protein polypeptides.
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I don't think that's supposed to be consumed at one shot. It does say "drink throughout the day".
From the looks of this, you should divide this into three servings. That would yield approximately 867 calories, 61 grams of protein, 130 grams of carbs, and 15 grams of MCTs per serving.
You forgot to read the direction how to use that weight gainer because you shoud add the powder to one gallon of whole milk.
That would add another 2400 calorie to the drink upping the dose to 5000 a day to be drinked trought the the day!
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Swimming does not burn THAT many calories off. There are much harder sports which wouldn't require near 5,000 calories a day.
I remember hearing some female radio personality describe Phelps body as 'unreal'. Makes you wonder what she's been used to.......
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I cant believe all these sissies on this board who cant wolf down 5000 cal in a day. I can do 5000 in a meat at a buffet.
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With that many calories ingested, he is always going to have a shit-load of food in his stomach regardless. Get it?
It's not feasible...
Try it yourself and then get back to me. Kill the CAPS while your'e at it, Beavis.
H0LY SHIT Y0U ARE A RETARD. AM I MICHEAL PHELPS? AM I SWIMMING 6 H0URS A DAY AND 0N T0P 0F THAT LIFTING WEIGHTS T00? I'M N0T AN 0LYMPIC ATHLETE Y0U M0R0N AND I D0N'T BURN 7500 CALS A DAY. PHELPS D0ES.
N0 BECAUSE HE'S BURNING THAT MANY CAL0RIES S0 HIS B0DY IS TAKING ALL TH0SE CAL0RIES IN GLADLY. Y0U HAVE N0 IDEA WHAT IT'S LIKE T0 TRAIN AT THAT LEVEL AND H0W HARD IT IS. WHEN Y0U ARE LIFTING 1 H0UR A DAY SURE BUT WHEN Y0U TRAIN 6 H0URS A DAY AND BURN 7500 CALS Y0U W0N'T BE SHITTING IT ALL DAY BECAUSE Y0UR B0DY CAN ABS0RB IT.
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Swimming does not burn THAT many calories off. There are much harder sports which wouldn't require near 5,000 calories a day.
I remember hearing some female radio personality describe Phelps body as 'unreal'. Makes you wonder what she's been used to.......
L0L Y0U HAVE N0 IDEA H0W 0LYMPIAN SWIMMERS TRAIN. Y0U'LL BE CRYING AND BEGGING F0R AIR AFTER A C0UPLE 0F MINUTES TRAINING WITH THEM. SWIMMING BURNS M0RE CAL0RIES THAN RUNNING. THEY D0N'T JUST SWIM SPRINTS AT MAXIMUM INTENSITY.
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L0L Y0U HAVE N0 IDEA H0W 0LYMPIAN SWIMMERS TRAIN. Y0U'LL BE CRYING AND BEGGING F0R AIR AFTER A C0UPLE 0F MINUTES TRAINING WITH THEM. SWIMMING BURNS M0RE CAL0RIES THAN RUNNING.
Actually i do know and no i wouldn't be sore. But i can't be fucked going into it. Swimming might be hard to you.
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micheals phelps probably started off with a super fast metabolism, the type that anything less then 4 000 and he would probably lose weight, a hard gainer or so. Add olympic training to that and you have 10 000 cal no problem. If your stomach is used to mega eating since young age then it won't be a problem. I eat everything in site, junk food included and i can count in 1 hand how many times a year i have diarrhea.
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H0LY SHIT Y0U ARE A RETARD. AM I MICHEAL PHELPS? AM I SWIMMING 6 H0URS A DAY AND 0N T0P 0F THAT LIFTING WEIGHTS T00? I'M N0T AN 0LYMPIC ATHLETE Y0U M0R0N AND I D0N'T BURN 7500 CALS A DAY. PHELPS D0ES.
N0 BECAUSE HE'S BURNING THAT MANY CAL0RIES S0 HIS B0DY IS TAKING ALL TH0SE CAL0RIES IN GLADLY. Y0U HAVE N0 IDEA WHAT IT'S LIKE T0 TRAIN AT THAT LEVEL AND H0W HARD IT IS. WHEN Y0U ARE LIFTING 1 H0UR A DAY SURE BUT WHEN Y0U TRAIN 6 H0URS A DAY AND BURN 7500 CALS Y0U W0N'T BE SHITTING IT ALL DAY BECAUSE Y0UR B0DY CAN ABS0RB IT.
Stop being so fucking rude to members on this site. That kind of behavior will only get you ass fucked.
Relax, breathe a little, no one truly believes Jay Cutler anyway.
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Stop being so fucking rude to members on this site. That kind of behavior will only get you ass fucked.
Relax, breathe a little, no one truly believes Jay Cutler anyway.
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I DIDN'T THR0W THE FIRST INSULT. I NEVER D0.
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I DIDN'T THR0W THE FIRST INSULT. I NEVER D0.
Stop calling people morons and having that kind of attitude. We don't care about Cutler anymore than we care about world peace or any other make believe topic for that matter.
Every one has their opinions on what is feasible by way of dietary intake. While I might claim bullshit on folks that say they can consume 7,000 - 10,000 calories a day, I'm sure out there somewhere is a skinny, Japanese man who can do so in less than 1 hour.
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jay did 50 pullups today unassisted i beleive
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Stop calling people morons and having that kind of attitude. We don't care about Cutler anymore than we care about world peace or any other make believe topic for that matter.
Every one has their opinions on what is feasible by way of dietary intake. While I might claim bullshit on folks that say they can consume 7,000 - 10,000 calories a day, I'm sure out there somewhere is a skinny, Japanese man who can do so in less than 1 hour.
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I JUST T0LD Y0U I DIDN'T THR0W THE FIRST INSULT.
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I JUST T0LD Y0U I DIDN'T THR0W THE FIRST INSULT.
Alright man...just...just pull up a chair and take a breather..
The first blowjob is on the house around here. I'll have Ron send you the necessary paperwork to make you an official member. A welcome packet along with a decoder ring will be on its way.
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jay is laughing and doing unassisted pullups at this time
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jay is laughing and doing unassisted pullups at this time
You sure he is not doing assisted "pulldowns"?
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I doubt Jay has ever eaten 7,500 calories a single day of his life. Sorry. I know positively that Michael Phelps has never eaten 12,000 calories in a single day.
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I doubt Jay has ever eaten 7,500 calories a single day of his life. Sorry. I know positively that Michael Phelps has never eaten 12,000 calories in a single day.
you must be one of those guys that throws a michealina in the microwave and a protein shake and is full and you probably think they only take a couple d-bols to look this way ;D C'mon now 7500 is easy especially for a guy that size. A lot of people here have no clue what it takes to be this big, everything has to be extreme otherwize there would be more people this size. BTW I can eat double that in a single day, want to make a wager? 8)
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you must be one of those guys that throws a michealina in the microwave and a protein shake and is full and you probably think they only take a couple d-bols to look this way ;D C'mon now 7500 is easy especially for a guy that size. A lot of people here have no clue what it takes to be this big, everything has to be extreme otherwize there would be more people this size. BTW I can eat double that in a single day, want to make a wager? 8)
OK, perhaps he has eaten 7,500 calories on a few off season days.
Regarding you eating "double that in a single day." Yes, I'll accept that bet. I'm in Venice and Vegas fairly often- I'll gladly make a friendly $100 bet with you or anybody eating 15,000 calories in a single day. I suppose we could fly to Japan and find a pro sumo cat who could do it on a bet, one time, but nobody else anywhere could eat 15,000 calories in 24 hours.
And what the hell is a Michealina? ;D Stay cool.
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I doubt Jay has ever eaten 7,500 calories a single day of his life. Sorry. I know positively that Michael Phelps has never eaten 12,000 calories in a single day.
THE AVERAGE MALE EATS AB0UT 3,000 CALS A DAY IN AMERICA WITH A LEAN MUSCLE MASS 0F LESS THAN 150 LBS. JAY CUTLER IS 300 LBS 0F LEAN MUSCLE MASS AND 0N EVERY DRUG 0UT THERE. 0F C0URSE THE GUY EATS 7500 CAL0RIES A DAY. Y0U NEED T0 EAT THE MUCH T0 MAINTAIN THAT MUCH MUSCLE MASS. PRE C0NTEST THE PR0S EAT 3500-4,500 CAL0RIES.
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H0LY SHIT Y0U ARE A RETARD. AM I MICHEAL PHELPS? AM I SWIMMING 6 H0URS A DAY AND 0N T0P 0F THAT LIFTING WEIGHTS T00? I'M N0T AN 0LYMPIC ATHLETE Y0U M0R0N AND I D0N'T BURN 7500 CALS A DAY. PHELPS D0ES.
N0 BECAUSE HE'S BURNING THAT MANY CAL0RIES S0 HIS B0DY IS TAKING ALL TH0SE CAL0RIES IN GLADLY. Y0U HAVE N0 IDEA WHAT IT'S LIKE T0 TRAIN AT THAT LEVEL AND H0W HARD IT IS. WHEN Y0U ARE LIFTING 1 H0UR A DAY SURE BUT WHEN Y0U TRAIN 6 H0URS A DAY AND BURN 7500 CALS Y0U W0N'T BE SHITTING IT ALL DAY BECAUSE Y0UR B0DY CAN ABS0RB IT.
You just contradicted yourself...
and now you are calling ME a retard?
I guess I'm done with you.
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THE AVERAGE MALE EATS AB0UT 3,000 CALS A DAY IN AMERICA WITH A LEAN MUSCLE MASS 0F LESS THAN 150 LBS. JAY CUTLER IS 300 LBS 0F LEAN MUSCLE MASS AND 0N EVERY DRUG 0UT THERE. 0F C0URSE THE GUY EATS 7500 CAL0RIES A DAY. Y0U NEED T0 EAT THE MUCH T0 MAINTAIN THAT MUCH MUSCLE MASS. PRE C0NTEST THE PR0S EAT 3500-4,500 CAL0RIES.
Yeh and the average male in America is fucking fat
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Yeh and the average male in America is fucking fat
YAH SURE I AM AT 6 PERCENT B0DY FAT ::)
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I agree with Tommy and a few others. I'd shave the given figure by 1500 - 2000 kcals. He may get into that range a few times a week, but not day in, day out. I've been around SHW lifters and Strongmen and none get into that range on a constant basis, so I doubt he is.
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I agree with Tommy and a few others. I'd shave the given figure by 1500 - 2000 kcals. He may get into that range a few times a week, but not day in, day out. I've been around SHW lifters and Strongmen and none get into that range on a constant basis, so I doubt he is.
THEY D0N'T CARRY AS MUCH LEAN MUSCLE MASS AS JAY. M0ST SHW HAVE GUTS. SC0TT MENDELS0N SAYS HE EATS 10,000 CALS A DAY IN HIS D0CUMENTARY.
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Meh, they are close enough, and these are guys eating fun foods not following some bodybuilding retardedness, and they are still under the quoted figure most days. But, please, feel free to believe whatever hokum you wish:).
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Jay Cutler can only eat 1500 calories a day! And that's a fact :D
He trains 5 minutes three times a week so he needs no more. Actually he took so much drugs that the energy in them were what made Jay grow in his early days and what now keeps his 300 pounds of muscle - he just doesn't need food 8)
Kenyan runners on the other hand!!! WOW! These guys are true athletes and monsters!!! They eat 20 000 calories a day and train about 15 hours a day! Never touch any drugs except purified sperm of rhinos. TRUE MONSTERS, baby!!!
Because Kenya is such a rich country and there is almost too much food there, they produce the best runners in world :D :D
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I agree with Tommy and a few others. I'd shave the given figure by 1500 - 2000 kcals. He may get into that range a few times a week, but not day in, day out. I've been around SHW lifters and Strongmen and none get into that range on a constant basis, so I doubt he is.
Thank you sir for a moment of sanity. 7,500 calories per day is absurd.
I knew Rory fairly well in the mid 90's when i watched him eat 10,000 calories one day- cat did not eat for 36 hours after that. The 10,000 cals was from pizza, steak, french fries, MetRX, grits w/butter, toast & jam, Tariaki chicken, etc.
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Team Grow huge with 1500 cals a day 8)
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HERE I'LL END THIS DEBATE 0NCE AND F0R ALL. JAY WEIGHS 300 LBS. 500 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN IS EASY F0R S0ME0NE THAT BIG AND LEAN AND 0N DRUGS. 500 X 4= 2,000 CAL0RIES. CARBS 1,000 GRAMS IS N0T FAR 0FF F0R JAY. 1,000 X 4 = 4,000 CAL0RIES
FATS 100 GRAMS A DAY MAKES T0TAL SENSE F0R S0ME0NE THAT BIG. 100X9=900 CAL0RIES. IT C0MES 0UT T0 6,900 CAL0RIES A DAY. S0 YES JAY CAN GET 7500 IF HE INCREASES HIS PR0TEIN INTAKE WHICH I'M SURE HE EATS AB0UT 600 GRAMS A DAY S0METIMES.
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HERE I'LL END THIS DEBATE 0NCE AND F0R ALL. JAY WEIGHS 300 LBS. 500 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN IS EASY F0R S0ME0NE THAT BIG AND LEAN AND 0N DRUGS. 500 X 4= 2,000 CAL0RIES. CARBS 1,000 GRAMS IS N0T FAR 0FF F0R JAY. 1,000 X 4 = 4,000 CAL0RIES
FATS 100 GRAMS A DAY MAKES T0TAL SENSE F0R S0ME0NE THAT BIG. 100X9=900 CAL0RIES. IT C0MES 0UT T0 6,900 CAL0RIES A DAY. S0 YES JAY CAN GET 7500 IF HE INCREASES HIS PR0TEIN INTAKE WHICH I'M SURE HE EATS AB0UT 600 GRAMS A DAY S0METIMES.
THANKS FOR THAT ANALYSIS, ASSHOLE.
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No one has answered my question about how many calories it takes to gain 1 pound of lean muscle... ::)
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they still make that cheap shit..... :D
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they still make that cheap shit..... :D
what cracks me up every time is that one container has only 3 servings, LOL!!!
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it has Anabolic Growth Formula it must be good ::) ::)
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Thank you sir for a moment of sanity. 7,500 calories per day is absurd.
I knew Rory fairly well in the mid 90's when i watched him eat 10,000 calories one day- cat did not eat for 36 hours after that. The 10,000 cals was from pizza, steak, french fries, MetRX, grits w/butter, toast & jam, Tariaki chicken, etc.
Alright tommy your a good sport. Give me a couple weeks and you're on for 15 000 cal 24hours. i have an idea.....I get the paper at 4 am at my door step, it has the date on it; so i will video tape myself eating periodacally showing the front page everytime I eat. When its all said and done i will download the video on youtube before 4 am. 8)We will bet only 50 bucks cause I am a cheapskate.
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Alright tommy your a good sport. Give me a couple weeks and you're on for 15 000 cal 24hours. i have an idea.....I get the paper at 4 am at my door step, it has the date on it; so i will video tape myself eating periodacally showing the front page everytime I eat. When its all said and done i will download the video on youtube before 4 am. 8)We will bet only 50 bucks cause I am a cheapskate.
Sounds great!! Do it!
"Tommywishmusclebyeating1 500calsaday " will eat his words next and bulk up to 300 pounds from it 8)
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what cracks me up every time is that one container has only 3 servings, LOL!!!
lol
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HERE I'LL END THIS DEBATE 0NCE AND F0R ALL. JAY WEIGHS 300 LBS. 500 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN IS EASY F0R S0ME0NE THAT BIG AND LEAN AND 0N DRUGS. 500 X 4= 2,000 CAL0RIES. CARBS 1,000 GRAMS IS N0T FAR 0FF F0R JAY. 1,000 X 4 = 4,000 CAL0RIES
FATS 100 GRAMS A DAY MAKES T0TAL SENSE F0R S0ME0NE THAT BIG. 100X9=900 CAL0RIES. IT C0MES 0UT T0 6,900 CAL0RIES A DAY. S0 YES JAY CAN GET 7500 IF HE INCREASES HIS PR0TEIN INTAKE WHICH I'M SURE HE EATS AB0UT 600 GRAMS A DAY S0METIMES.
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I think "Assbruise" is a professor. ::) ::)
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Do you buy this shit?
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Do you buy this shit?
LOL, am i stupid??
No way.
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without a drink (we could assume 300 calories of orange juice + a bottled water), the mcd deluxe breakfast is 1200 calories alone.
You eat, you drop a deuce and post on getbig for an hour, and youre ready to lift.