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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: gh15 on April 29, 2011, 01:58:49 AM
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this is a 101 course in the influence of propioneta trenbolona and masterona on ones physiqe ,,gh15 keep getting repetetive question of what does the trenbolona ace do ,,this is a good prime example of fella that rely on low doses testosterona high doses trenbolona,, and some masterona,,there are peptides too but they come secondary to the propioneta trenbolona ace masterona and ofcourse final diuretic polish diazide
the fellas usually compete around 185-197lb when 5'10 or so the doses are low in relashion to us professoinals and they are not the level of top ifbb naturals who use just like us professionals but! the doses are decent,,
ofcourse the ester are always improving and the more smart the bodybuild the shorter he get the ester either cook it himself or in most case have close cook that is top notch who cook him esterless products,,
the gyno is small and progesterone gyno that can not be avoided and no it can not be avoided
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second picture is same fella ,,with actual flexing and you can see the type of condition trenbolona ace gives the physiqe ,,it harden it ,,eliminate water but due to use of proioneta and due to playing with esterless compounds hit and run as i call it with shock and awe operations.....folds are created down in the midsection that can not go away,,, those are skin folds that are due to hormonal usage include hgh ,,its from going on and off gh and manipulating the blood hormonal system to a higher degree inorder to cheat tests
gh15 approved
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is masteron enanthate any good?is it hard to acquire in Europe? The price? anybody,thanks
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Ah i see this a lot I thought it was just poor lower ab development
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who was better, dorian or ronnie?
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Here's something I just don't understand about testosterona. It's written everywhere that you should switch from enanthate to prop if you want to drop some water. The reason given is because it's a shorter ester. But if you are on any kind of test for at least two months and more blood levels will build and accumulate no matter what the ester. Say you are on 750 enanthate for two months compared to 750 prop for two months and get your levels tested. Won't they be just as high if not higher with the prop because you are actually getting more mgs of testosterona per cc than enanthate due to the shorter ester?
And if it's the shorter ester that somehow causes you to retain less water why does test base/TNE, the shortest ester -- actually no ester at all -- bloat the hell out of you?
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is masteron enanthate any good?is it hard to acquire in Europe? The price? anybody,thanks
Do you need a source buddy?.... :-\
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All natural hard work Layne. :D
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Ah i see this a lot I thought it was just poor lower ab development
Anyone will have those folds when bending the body forward,even at sub 5% BF.
I`ve seen it a zillion times on guys that are absoulutely shrinkwrapped.
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Anyone will have those folds when bending the body forward,even at sub 5% BF.
I`ve seen it a zillion times on guys that are absoulutely shrinkwrapped.
What folds? What poor "lower" ab development? What am I not seeing?
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Anyone will have those folds when bending the body forward,even at sub 5% BF.
I`ve seen it a zillion times on guys that are absoulutely shrinkwrapped.
no ,,its thickness of skin due to hgh ,,and testosterona ,,usualy in combo
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Here's something I just don't understand about testosterona. It's written everywhere that you should switch from enanthate to prop if you want to drop some water. The reason given is because it's a shorter ester. But if you are on any kind of test for at least two months and more blood levels will build and accumulate no matter what the ester. Say you are on 750 enanthate for two months compared to 750 prop for two months and get your levels tested. Won't they be just as high if not higher with the prop because you are actually getting more mgs of testosterona per cc than enanthate due to the shorter ester?
And if it's the shorter ester that somehow causes you to retain less water why does test base/TNE, the shortest ester -- actually no ester at all -- bloat the hell out of you?
the usage of propionate and phnyl propionate easter find itself best suited for the least amount of water weight if done right! done right meaning once every other day or once every 3 days..... if done every day you wil stil be bloated,,you need to reduce test to maintenance levels for a while as in 150-200mg a week for water to go down especialy with naturals and prolematic perma bulkers,,
tne and suspension bloat you out of this world because there is absolitly no easter and that menas it go to blood all at once so even when you take 50 mg it all at once float into the blood all of it hit at once! it also can be used perfectly fine btu the doses need to be very small and very accurate ,,IF you have legit products which 80% of peopel do not,,
the problem is you dont know what you get with many ug labs so you think you take 50mg and you actualy take 100mg ...if the lab is overdosing ,,or if the lab is cheap and the person who cook it wanna save a buck...he put very little in and you think you take 25mg since you want to be accurate...... yet you only inject 5 mg ..5 mg of suspension wont do nothing
gh15 approved
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by the way this is light case of a liar since nortom is realy not blessed with bodybuilding sucess ,,when you take the faildos,,and the skkipos thats where you see the big liars ,,thats where you really really see fellas who live from lie to lie and really know their body like a clock,,
remember what namat said here few days back ,,,the jap is MASTER OF TIMING!!
all those so call naturals ,,fake naturals ofcourse are MASTERS OF TIMING ,,THEIR ALL BODYBUILD IS BASED ON TIMING,,AND TRULY EVERY BODYBUILDER WHO IS SUCESS KNOWS HIS TIMING TO THE T ,,THATS ONLY THING WE DO WE THINK IN TERMS OF TIMING ,,OF EVERYTHING,, INJECTS,,TRAINING,,ETC
gh15 approved
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Do you need a source buddy?.... :-\
nope, trying to sell something buddy?
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the usage of propionate and phnyl propionate easter find itself best suited for the least amount of water weight if done right! done right meaning once every other day or once every 3 days..... if done every day you wil stil be bloated,,you need to reduce test to maintenance levels for a while as in 150-200mg a week for water to go down especialy with naturals and prolematic perma bulkers,,
tne and suspension bloat you out of this world because there is absolitly no easter and that menas it go to blood all at once so even when you take 50 mg it all at once float into the blood all of it hit at once! it also can be used perfectly fine btu the doses need to be very small and very accurate ,,IF you have legit products which 80% of peopel do not,,
the problem is you dont know what you get with many ug labs so you think you take 50mg and you actualy take 100mg ...if the lab is overdosing ,,or if the lab is cheap and the person who cook it wanna save a buck...he put very little in and you think you take 25mg since you want to be accurate...... yet you only inject 5 mg ..5 mg of suspension wont do nothing
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I see. I see. I've learned so much on this board that I'm actually starting to give advice to local bodybuilders here. We just had the Sting Ray Classic and I was telling one of the competitors about the "ona" cycle. You should start some online testing for your pupils so we can be accredited and earn degrees from the god of hormona academy. Maybe I can be a guru in my retirement.
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nope, trying to sell something buddy?
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is masteron enanthate any good?is it hard to acquire in Europe? The price? anybody,thanks
No source asking allowed on this board....now fuck off you lying kunt....hope this helps.... :)
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No source asking allowed on this board....now fuck off you lying kunt....hope this helps.... :)
where does it state that i'm looking for a source you idiot? if you ever bought it or heard someone close to you did, you'd know the price wouldn't you? dumbass, don't respond if the question doesn't apply to you.....oh and on the side note, would never consider getting stuff over the internet
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where does it state that i'm looking for a source you idiot? if you ever bought it or heard someone close to you did, you'd know the price wouldn't you? dumbass, don't respond if the question doesn't apply to you.....oh and on the side note, would never consider getting stuff over the internet
Thanks for clearing that up...you got me worried there for a minute stud... ::) :-\
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GH15 hitting the spell check these days.....syntax is improved too ::)
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whats the dose gh15 ?
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You are obviously a bitter broke ass drug dealing bodybuilder who as threatened by Layne Norton's magazine writing opportunities, forum exposure, following, and success.
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You are obviously a bitter broke ass drug dealing bodybuilder who as threatened by Layne Norton's magazine writing opportunities, forum exposure, following, and success.
Hi Layne :D
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by the way this is light case of a liar since nortom is realy not blessed with bodybuilding sucess ,,when you take the faildos,,and the skkipos thats where you see the big liars ,,thats where you really really see fellas who live from lie to lie and really know their body like a clock,,
remember what namat said here few days back ,,,the jap is MASTER OF TIMING!!
all those so call naturals ,,fake naturals ofcourse are MASTERS OF TIMING ,,THEIR ALL BODYBUILD IS BASED ON TIMING,,AND TRULY EVERY BODYBUILDER WHO IS SUCESS KNOWS HIS TIMING TO THE T ,,THATS ONLY THING WE DO WE THINK IN TERMS OF TIMING ,,OF EVERYTHING,, INJECTS,,TRAINING,,ETC
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You really can't argue with nutrient timing. That is one of the best tools of the trade!!!
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Growth whoremona
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GH15 what is this guy using? ???
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2010/12/12/18553342/gallerypic/1GJV9TiXWafGdaTbVCnv8G46BNXCL0813.jpeg)
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/04/29/18553342/gallerypic/1UAv2CBNJqJsSx6VNzK06NtD9hnetp435e.jpeg)
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second picture is same fella ,,with actual flexing and you can see the type of condition trenbolona ace gives the physiqe ,,it harden it ,,eliminate water but due to use of proioneta and due to playing with esterless compounds hit and run as i call it with shock and awe operations.....folds are created down in the midsection that can not go away,,, those are skin folds that are due to hormonal usage include hgh ,,its from going on and off gh and manipulating the blood hormonal system to a higher degree inorder to cheat tests
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Dear lord you are a fucking moron twat. Stick to what you know.....sucking cock for drugs/drug money
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GH15 what is this guy using? ???
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2010/12/12/18553342/gallerypic/1GJV9TiXWafGdaTbVCnv8G46BNXCL0813.jpeg)
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/04/29/18553342/gallerypic/1UAv2CBNJqJsSx6VNzK06NtD9hnetp435e.jpeg)
if he is 6'4 then no .... ::)
ofcourse he does,,anyone under 6 feet who look like this with this kind of thickness is using,,he has the damn shelve on the delt pec conection,,fibers running all through,,fella is 6-7% holding very little water,,somwhere at the 4-5lb water
this is typical 190lb 5'10 ...7lb per inch of height give or take ,,on stage fellas that are on smaller cycles due to financial reasons and due to average respond,,many locals like this ,,very good phyisqe at 6-7% that hold 4-5 lb of water on it
gh15 approved
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using short esters,,propionate ,,npp,,trenbolona ace,,,var,, and the such
gh15 approved
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if he is 6'4 then no .... ::)
ofcourse he does,,anyone under 6 feet who look like this with this kind of thickness is using,,he has the damn shelve on the delt pec conection,,fibers running all through,,fella is 6-7% holding very little water,,somwhere at the 4-5lb water
this is typical 190lb 5'10 ...7lb per inch of height give or take ,,on stage fellas that are on smaller cycles due to financial reasons and due to average respond,,many locals like this ,,very good phyisqe at 6-7% that hold 4-5 lb of water on it
gh15 approved
He calls himself 'Naturalgraham4' and as the nicknames says he's claiming to be lifetime natty
claim to train for 15 years
he's 6"0'
202pounds (seems like he really like tren tho...)
and ~18" arms stage condition
His traps, his bloofy upper abs ( like in this pic)
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2010/10/20/18553342/gallerypic/1MjdKHqrHF2ggmbBkGPg2H9TSPE5zj017e.jpeg)
all scream it.
the only thing i wonder is how he doesn't get the oily skin look.
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He calls himself 'Naturalgraham4' and as the nicknames says he's claiming to be lifetime natty
claim to train for 15 years
he's 6"0'
202pounds (seems like he really like tren tho...)
and ~18" arms stage condition
His traps, his bloofy upper abs ( like in this pic)
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2010/10/20/18553342/gallerypic/1MjdKHqrHF2ggmbBkGPg2H9TSPE5zj017e.jpeg)
all scream it.
the only thing i wonder is how he doesn't get the oily skin look.
first of he is 6-7% bodyfat,,,what he hold is mainly water,,his bodyfat is at 6-7% he hold water due to continous hormonal usage,,his arms are 18 inch maybe in this condition not stage,,stage is little less bodyfat minus the 4-5 lb of water he hold on him ,,so his stage condition is about 8-10 lb less than this picture
also pictures are illusuion he has oily skin ,,it is not as much as the fellas who use long esters at very high doses,,but the oily skin is there,,once in a while he will get that bothering pimple on the face that wont go away for 3-4 days when hormones are not stable to the t in blood ,,,if the hormal injects is consistent and stabe the sides effect will always be minimized,,
remember friends,,all of us never go off hormones,,we just tell you we do but we do not,,we never get off,,2-3 weeks is not off,,and also we dont even go off for 3 weeks,,always something in system many somethings
i keep tellin you again and again ,,bodybuilder = liar ,,moment bodybuilder is off hormones he has no muscle to talk about,,the higher you get in bodybuild the more dependent you are on the hoormones,,and this fella seem to know what he is doing,,his timing is most likley to the t ,,
but ! many physiqes resemble this in the locals,,this is good local physiqe but if want next level in today bodybuild got to have gh and insulina,,you cant avoid it,,,but then.....you end up looking like marcus haily ...and to be honest looking like marcus haily is alot less impressive than looking like this fella in those pictures...
gh15 approved
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by the way this is very good example to my recent lessons about bodyfat % and the mistake you do in calculations of bodyfat and observation of bodyfat,,most guros would give this fella 8-9% but im telling you here he is 6-7% ,,,always look twards obliqes and sides of the midsection ,,this fella has all the abs there only covered by thin layer of water around 4-5 lb ,,some fellas hold even more water as in 5-10lb ...and still same bodyfat like him,,
this is a good example of fella that hold mostly water from hormonal usage of chinease substances,,
gh15 approved
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i keep tellin you again and again ,,bodybuilder = liar ,,moment bodybuilder is off hormones he has no muscle to talk about,,the higher you get in bodybuild the more dependent you are on the hoormones,,and this fella seem to know what he is doing,,his timing is most likley to the t ,,
gh15 approved
Nice Post man, you are the one who made me hate "bodybuilde" and never think of injecting myself with a nedle ;)
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it's also important to inject BEFORE BED right gh15 ???
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He calls himself 'Naturalgraham4' and as the nicknames says he's claiming to be lifetime natty
claim to train for 15 years
he's 6"0'
202pounds (seems like he really like tren tho...)
and ~18" arms stage condition
His traps, his bloofy upper abs ( like in this pic)
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2010/10/20/18553342/gallerypic/1MjdKHqrHF2ggmbBkGPg2H9TSPE5zj017e.jpeg)
all scream it.
the only thing i wonder is how he doesn't get the oily skin look.
almost looks like someone photoshopped 2 humans into one photo
some possibilities
he took this photo right after training arms
def not natural thou
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it's also important to inject BEFORE BED right gh15 ???
that is correct,,you can injectbefore training too and in the morning but just dont complain when you look in the mirror and see blurded lines especialy abdominal and lower back,,inject need to settle down and be done at night so you have 8-10 hour sleep wake up and then hit the weights number of hours later,,and so on and on repeted all the time ,,im talking aas injects here!
the most important thing is to do exactly THE OPPOSITE of what you read on most steroid board,,they say pct...you dont do pct... they say no food within hour past or before hgh inject ....you take food right after inject...always do opposite of what you read on most steorid board and you willl be top competitor,,in most cases
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almost looks like someone photoshopped 2 humans into one photo
some possibilities
he took this photo right after training arms
def not natural thou
average genetic respond,,very lean fella,, on gear.. simple..also been to hgh but again this is not higher doses of gh and slin ,,
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that is correct,,you can injectbefore training too and in the morning but just dont complain when you look in the mirror and see blurded lines especialy abdominal and lower back,,inject need to settle down and be done at night so you have 8-10 hour sleep wake up and then hit the weights number of hours later,,and so on and on repeted all the time ,,im talking aas injects here!
the most important thing is to do exactly THE OPPOSITE of what you read on most steroid board,,they say pct...you dont do pct... they say no food within hour past or before hgh inject ....you take food right after inject...always do opposite of what you read on most steorid board and you willl be top competitor,,in most cases
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They also say to make sure the test dose is always the higher
and when taking tren/deca make sure it's at least 1:2 ratio for tren/deca:test
is it wrong? and in what cases?
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it is wrong...always