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Title: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on May 03, 2011, 08:05:26 PM
I'm really not sure where or when this nonsense of paying some half-a-fag fifty bucks an hour to teahc you how to curl a five pound dumbell while standing on a big red ball.  In fifteen minutes I can give you all the info you need to know on how to lift weights, eat and look like a man.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Howard on May 03, 2011, 08:07:21 PM
I'm really not sure where or when this nonsense of paying some half-a-fag fifty bucks an hour to teahc you how to curl a five pound dumbell while standing on a big red ball.  In fifteen minutes I can give you all the info you need to know on how to lift weights, eat and look like a man.
BINGO!

If you are going to pay someone 50 bucks an hr I don't want to  stand on some big balls...they need to suck my balls
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on May 03, 2011, 08:09:27 PM
Paying for sex is like paying to take a dump.  You'd have to be a real dud to reach in the pocket just to get some snatch.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Doug_Steele on May 03, 2011, 08:09:45 PM
I'm really not sure where or when this nonsense of paying some half-a-fag fifty bucks an hour to teahc you how to curl a five pound dumbell while standing on a big red ball.  In fifteen minutes I can give you all the info you need to know on how to lift weights, eat and look like a man.

But see, that is the beauty of doing personal training and making $50 a session.  8) How hard is it to Lift weights and eat right?  :D
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Howard on May 03, 2011, 08:13:47 PM
Paying for sex is like paying to take a dump.  You'd have to be a real dud to reach in the pocket just to get some snatch.
When I was a marine I went to a hooker and walked out without banging her.
I let her keep the 20 bucks and laughed about it.
I have no moral hang ups on sex or hookers.
For whatever reason I had no interest in screwing a hooker.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on May 03, 2011, 08:15:25 PM
I was thinking that when you handed her the twenty.  You got beat, son.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: dyslexic on May 03, 2011, 08:57:04 PM
Glorified Cheerleader.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 03, 2011, 09:13:22 PM
send me massive tons of cash to my po box man.I'll get you prepped for the o dawg.
Would you recommend seated calf raises to hit the Soleus area BDB?
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2011, 09:13:24 PM
I like my job.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on May 04, 2011, 05:00:59 AM
I like my job.

But you don't like Obama. You are a very complex man Coach.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Devon97 on May 04, 2011, 05:04:37 AM
Paying for sex is like paying to take a dump.  You'd have to be a real dud to reach in the pocket just to get some snatch.


It's not the sex you're paying for---you're paying for her to LEAVE after the sex.  8)

You need to start taking notes my young friend.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: D-bol on May 04, 2011, 05:13:12 AM
Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on a mission against supplements, personal trainers and pro bbers!

Bro, don't really understand what your rage is all about...Its all personal choices that people make. For example, I don't get why people pay $3 for a small can of bad tasting energy drink with some red cows on the logo, or why would anyone pay a doctor to tell them that in order to cure the flu they need to keep warm and rest for 7 days...

This is how markets are, bro...If you don't appreciate certain markets (e.g., market for freakish pro bbers, that drivers the market for supplements, etc) then you have a personal choice not to participate in that market and, perhaps, encourage your kids to do the same....

But why go on a hate runt?
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Tito24 on May 04, 2011, 05:20:32 AM
i never understood people who payed money to have someone training them
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: musclecenter on May 04, 2011, 05:26:12 AM
No such thing!
Does Arnold, Frank,Franco,Lee Haney,.......has trainer or guru?
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Cleanest Natural on May 04, 2011, 05:39:19 AM
There are guys who know their shit. Do you think MMA guys pay The Coach by accident?
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on May 04, 2011, 07:55:17 AM
"Know their shit", huh?  I see these wimps in the gym, these "personal trainers".  Typically weigh about a hundred and forty pounds, have twelve inch arms, and dress like fags.  Never see them benching or squatting.  Always with a big round ball or a princess dumbell.  You can learn to squat, bench press, and chin up for free.  Or you can pay some wimp and continue to look like something other than a man.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Meso_z on May 04, 2011, 08:09:18 AM
i never understood people who payed money to have someone training them
lol..me neither..seems like they want a babysitter.

The chategory of "personal trainers" I hate the most are the "kettlebel" ones...so disturbing, as if they have discovered something groundbreaking..swinging a giant testicle-looking ball up and down.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: BayGBM on May 04, 2011, 08:12:08 AM
BINGO!

If you are going to pay someone 50 bucks an hr I don't want to  stand on some big balls...they need to suck my balls

x2  ;D
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: chunkramwell on May 04, 2011, 09:55:15 AM
"Know their shit", huh?  I see these wimps in the gym, these "personal trainers".  Typically weigh about a hundred and forty pounds, have twelve inch arms, and dress like fags.  Never see them benching or squatting.  Always with a big round ball or a princess dumbell.  You can learn to squat, bench press, and chin up for free.  Or you can pay some wimp and continue to look like something other than a man.

I hope you continue to spread your views on the bodybuild and fitness industries and would really enjoy hearing your deconstruction of crossfit.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on May 06, 2011, 05:39:47 PM
Well, the only thing I know about a cross is that The Lord And Savior carried one up to calvary.  Other than that all I can tell you is about barbells and dumbells.  Why the hell anyone would pay a 135 lb weakling for exercise advice is one of the great mysteries of the world.  I'll turn anyone here into an old school musclehead for free.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Dokey111 on May 06, 2011, 05:44:21 PM
I gotta tell you, something tells me you could tell some stories about some exploits with teh fair sex!  Let's hear our all ears...  this is gonna be great feallas and you can thank me latter...
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Natural Man on May 06, 2011, 05:44:46 PM
there are good inexpensive PTs... and expensive, shitty ones. There are good pts and bad pts...

most are bad due to the fact most people in this business are assholes.



My real problem with ptraining is that you can learn everything you need on the internet for free nowadays. There is no doubt in my mind that for one person believing he/she needs a pt, there are 10 smarter people -often young ones- learning everything from the internet.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 06, 2011, 06:09:10 PM
Well, the only thing I know about a cross is that The Lord And Savior carried one up to calvary.  Other than that all I can tell you is about barbells and dumbells.  Why the hell anyone would pay a 135 lb weakling for exercise advice is one of the great mysteries of the world.  I'll turn anyone here into an old school musclehead for free.

I'll humor this gimmick. Different trainers sometimes specialize in different demographics the public. Not everyone wants to be a "musclehead". Some trainers specialize in working with cardiac clientele some specialize in working with Alzheimers clientele, some sports specific, some with the elderly and so on and so on. get it?
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Hulkotron on May 06, 2011, 06:11:26 PM
People who get personal trainers come in three varieties:

(1) Clueless people who have never been in shape in their lives and think becoming so requires some sort of secret
(2) People who use it as a status symbol ("Yeah I was working with my trainer today and...") and don't actually have any interest in improving their fitness
(3) Serious athletes who can afford to pay someone to come up with a specialized program for their goals

Trainers who work with (1) and (2) are generally losers and scammers.  Trainers who work with (3) are good folks.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 06, 2011, 06:18:49 PM
I like threads like this especially when I read that personal training is a scam then I read some of the training shit on here about how people train and their training routines and wonder who really knows more...LOL.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: chunkramwell on May 06, 2011, 06:53:39 PM
I like threads like this especially when I read that personal training is a scam then I read some of the training shit on here about how people train and their training routines and wonder who really knows more...LOL.

How do you really feel about three full body workouts three times a week Coach?
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 06, 2011, 07:18:18 PM
One of our training systems is a full body three days per week system. Done right, there's nothing better!
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 06, 2011, 07:21:37 PM
I like threads like this especially when I read that personal training is a scam then I read some of the training shit on here about how people train and their training routines and wonder who really knows more...LOL.

Coach you're a good guy and a good businessman, but any jerkoff can become a PT....you can literally walk off the street and interview for the job at a gym, without ever training a person in your life and having no credentials. And if the fitness director thinks you can sell packages and make him money, he will hire you on the spot
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: chunkramwell on May 06, 2011, 07:21:45 PM
Sounds like a glowing, yet conditional, endorsement. Thanks Coach!
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 06, 2011, 07:28:22 PM
Not disagreeing you groink.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Firemuscle on May 06, 2011, 07:29:31 PM
I'm really not sure where or when this nonsense of paying some half-a-fag fifty bucks an hour to teahc you how to curl a five pound dumbell while standing on a big red ball.  In fifteen minutes I can give you all the info you need to know on how to lift weights, eat and look like a man.

 There's your answer.

 Idiots will pay the money. So people are there to capitalize.

 Cash in on people's ignorance. Nothing wrong with that really.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 06, 2011, 07:53:53 PM
Again, lots of people on here dogging trainers. So here's a challenge for all of you who think you really think its easy. Design a 12 week periodized program from beginning to end.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: che on May 06, 2011, 08:01:30 PM
Again, lots of people on here dogging trainers. So here's a challenge for all of you who think you really think its easy. Design a 12 week periodized program from beginning to end.
I can copy and paste it from Berardi's site , just like you do.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: chunkramwell on May 06, 2011, 08:02:48 PM
Again, lots of people on here dogging trainers. So here's a challenge for all of you who think you really think its easy. Design a 12 week periodized program from beginning to end.

Coach, I have a question, with all of the copy written about new exercise plans and strategies, how do you separate the wheat from the chaff? Is there any practical way to test out the theories of the myriad of professional writers without making your test subject suffer from sub optimal results? It seems like perhaps certain plans succeed not because of their efficacy, but due to their marketing budget and seminar schedule.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Firemuscle on May 06, 2011, 08:08:05 PM
Again, lots of people on here dogging trainers. So here's a challenge for all of you who think you really think its easy. Design a 12 week periodized program from beginning to end.

 Incredibly easy.
 
 I could make a plan like that in 15 minutes.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Hulkotron on May 06, 2011, 08:09:28 PM
Working out is very complicated.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: BradleyBryant on May 06, 2011, 08:13:58 PM
Personally, I believe that most people could get a good program from any old muscle mag without paying somebody and just experimenting.  There are a few demographics requiring special needs that I truly believe trainers can help.

Sadly, thanks to YMCAs and LA Fitness Clubs all over, the 'real' trainers out there get a bad rep.  

Anybody with fifty bucks and an internet connection can get 'certified' nowadays
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: TacoBell on May 06, 2011, 08:25:11 PM
Again, lots of people on here dogging trainers. So here's a challenge for all of you who think you really think its easy. Design a 12 week periodized program from beginning to end.

Week 1:  Sex
Week 2:  Sex
Week 3:  Sex
week 4:  Blowjob
Week 5:  Sex
Week 6:  Sex
Week 7:  Sex
Week 8:  Blowjob
Week 9:  Sex
Week 10:  Sex
Week 11:  Sex
Week 12:  Blowjob

Fucking Periodized
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Dokey111 on May 06, 2011, 08:31:02 PM
Most people 95% dont or cant understand that all you really have to do is exert yourself.  Most people just can't do it.  Exert as in Exercise.  Duh fucking idiots.  If you're not gasping for breath, you're not exerting.  and Exerting = stimulus and stimulus = results.  Jesus great society we built here.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: AngrySOB on May 06, 2011, 08:34:09 PM
I'm really not sure where or when this nonsense of paying some half-a-fag fifty bucks an hour to teahc you how to curl a five pound dumbell while standing on a big red ball.  In fifteen minutes I can give you all the info you need to know on how to lift weights, eat and look like a man.

I learned how to lift by watching videos of Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, Victor Martinez and Branch Warren on youtube... I kept seeing them do certain exercises - squats, deads, bench, rows... so I looked up videos on how to do those. Taught myself everything I know! Perfected it though with help from some of the guys in my gym and some of the info on the boards... Don't get the personal trainer thing. They slap you on a bosu ball and hand you 5 pound dumbbells. And the idea of unstable platform training and "training the core" has been shot to shit as far as injury prevention goes.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: chunkramwell on May 06, 2011, 08:44:38 PM
I think the people that want to train their "core" need to get a part time job doing manual labor. I got more core training in today chopping and hauling two trees that fell over my branch than they are likely to get in two weeks training in a gym. Go get a job changing tires, castrating cattle, digging ditches, whatever.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Hulkotron on May 06, 2011, 08:50:46 PM
I think the people that want to train their "core" need to get a part time job doing manual labor. I got more core training in today chopping and hauling two trees that fell over my branch than they are likely to get in two weeks training in a gym. Go get a job changing tires, castrating cattle, digging ditches, whatever.

No chunkramwell, the only way to train your core is with a 12-week periodization program and obtuse fitness equipment.  I will reveal these secrets to you for only $45/hour.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: chunkramwell on May 06, 2011, 08:52:01 PM
No chunkramwell, the only way to train your core is with a 12-week periodization program and obtuse fitness equipment.  I will reveal these secrets to you for only $45/hour.

Where do I send my money Hulkotron!!!
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: wavelength on May 06, 2011, 08:56:28 PM
It's the consulting principle. It's about transferring responsibility, not information.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Hulkotron on May 06, 2011, 08:57:27 PM
It's the consulting principle. It's about transferring responsibility, not information.

Yes, very good point.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: AngrySOB on May 06, 2011, 08:59:19 PM
No chunkramwell, the only way to train your core is with a 12-week periodization program and obtuse fitness equipment.  I will reveal these secrets to you for only $45/hour.

lol
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 06, 2011, 09:33:04 PM
All of the answers in this thread proves my point. Especially the dude that said all you have to do is exert yourself. Hahahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Dokey111 on May 06, 2011, 09:48:59 PM
You should clarify Coach.. 'cuz I'm not sure what you're getting at..?  Explain please.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 06, 2011, 09:53:37 PM
Explain what?
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Dokey111 on May 06, 2011, 09:55:00 PM
All of the answers in this thread proves my point. Especially the dude that said all you have to do is exert yourself. Hahahahahahahaha!

... this..?
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 06, 2011, 11:14:48 PM
... this..?

There are a few people on here who know what I'm talking about, know to train and know how to program a training routine. Unless I missed something, those people are not in this thread, as a matter of fact there is only one other person on here that I will ask his opinion on because quite frankly, he knows just as much if not more than I do. I'm not saying I know it all, I don't. But I do know when someone knows what they're talking about and when they don't. When I see someone write "I could put a routine together in 15min" or "all you have to do is exert yourself" that tells me they're clueless on training and they only routine they put together are the one's they copy out of a magazine.

Not everything works for everyone, people are different. If you train someone who doesn't know how to squat for example... and his/her heels come up when they come down (I'm just referring to a body weight squat btw) can you figure out the problem? Most of the time it's not as simple as you might think. If a person is squatting with a valgum, do know what to do to correct that? 99% of the time it takes few weeks or more to correct. Simple right?

Most people who put together routines don't know the reasons why they put their exercise selections in they way they do, they just know thats what it said in muscle and fitness or flex. So when I ask to periodize a 12 week program, most can't do it.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: maxkane69 on May 07, 2011, 12:24:54 AM
"Know their shit", huh?  I see these wimps in the gym, these "personal trainers".  Typically weigh about a hundred and forty pounds, have twelve inch arms, and dress like fags.  Never see them benching or squatting.  Always with a big round ball or a princess dumbell.  You can learn to squat, bench press, and chin up for free.  Or you can pay some wimp and continue to look like something other than a man.
Quoted for truth!
Only generation nothingness pay for personal training!
How fucking difficult it is to learn how to squat ,bench press,deadlift,row or pull-up that you have to pay sameone!
You have to be a moron without any willpower if you pay a personal trainer!
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: wes on May 07, 2011, 12:38:29 AM
There are a few people on here who know what I'm talking about, know to train and know how to program a training routine. Unless I missed something, those people are not in this thread, as a matter of fact there is only one other person on here that I will ask his opinion on because quite frankly, he knows just as much if not more than I do. I'm not saying I know it all, I don't. But I do know when someone knows what they're talking about and when they don't. When I see someone write "I could put a routine together in 15min" or "all you have to do is exert yourself" that tells me they're clueless on training and they only routine they put together are the one's they copy out of a magazine.

Not everything works for everyone, people are different. If you train someone who doesn't know how to squat for example... and his/her heels come up when they come down (I'm just referring to a body weight squat btw) can you figure out the problem? Most of the time it's not as simple as you might think. If a person is squatting with a valgum, do know what to do to correct that? 99% of the time it takes few weeks or more to correct. Simple right?

Most people who put together routines don't know the reasons why they put their exercise selections in they way they do, they just know thats what it said in muscle and fitness or flex. So when I ask to periodize a 12 week program, most can't do it.
Good post Joe.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 07, 2011, 12:45:11 AM

It's not the sex you're paying for---you're paying for her to LEAVE after the sex.  8)

You need to start taking notes my young friend.
;D
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: kiwiol on May 07, 2011, 12:52:06 AM
It's the consulting principle. It's about transferring responsibility, not information.

Exactly. Not everyone has the time and inclination to wade through tons and tons of info in the web or books and learn about proper lifting/exercising. And many people do it because they like the idea of someone more experienced taking them through their workouts.

There are plenty of good trainers everywhere, worth every penny, but unfortunately, they are outnumbered by the more common bullshitters who scam dumb people and taint the whole industry's name/reputation.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 07, 2011, 01:14:31 AM
Exactly. Not everyone has the time and inclination to wade through tons and tons of info in the web or books and learn about proper lifting/exercising. And many people do it because they like the idea of someone more experienced taking them through their workouts.

There are plenty of good trainers everywhere, worth every penny, but unfortunately, they are outnumbered by the more common bullshitters who scam dumb people and taint the whole industry's name/reputation.
X2.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: dj181 on May 07, 2011, 02:15:47 AM
We need Arthur Jones here to clear things up a bit ;)
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: wavelength on May 07, 2011, 02:55:12 AM
Exactly. Not everyone has the time and inclination to wade through tons and tons of info in the web or books and learn about proper lifting/exercising. And many people do it because they like the idea of someone more experienced taking them through their workouts.

There are plenty of good trainers everywhere, worth every penny, but unfortunately, they are outnumbered by the more common bullshitters who scam dumb people and taint the whole industry's name/reputation.

What I mean is more that it's easier for people to follow a program when they can let go of their responsibility for it. I don't mean this in a negative way, that's what a good trainer does: freeing his client of responsibility and constantly affirming what he or she already knows anyway.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: tlc on May 07, 2011, 03:22:09 AM
Most people 95% dont or cant understand that all you really have to do is exert yourself.  Most people just can't do it.  Exert as in Exercise.  Duh fucking idiots.  If you're not gasping for breath, you're not exerting.  and Exerting = stimulus and stimulus = results.  Jesus great society we built here.

Couldn't agree more.  If you're fat and weak it's because you're lazy. Get off your arse and stop shovelling pies down your face, it's not rocket science.

People would rather pay $$$ for a pat on the back than actually achieve something for free with a bit of actual discipline.

I keep getting asked (well, occasionally) what supplements I take to look good and folk get all  ???  :( when I laugh at them.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: pellius on May 07, 2011, 04:01:40 AM
People who get personal trainers come in three varieties:

(1) Clueless people who have never been in shape in their lives and think becoming so requires some sort of secret
(2) People who use it as a status symbol ("Yeah I was working with my trainer today and...") and don't actually have any interest in improving their fitness
(3) Serious athletes who can afford to pay someone to come up with a specialized program for their goals

Trainers who work with (1) and (2) are generally losers and scammers.  Trainers who work with (3) are good folks.


Coach is obviously #3. That's why I don't understand why people give Coach a hard time and tell him to get a real job. I could only wish I could get a gig like him.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: pellius on May 07, 2011, 04:11:28 AM
Again, lots of people on here dogging trainers. So here's a challenge for all of you who think you really think its easy. Design a 12 week periodized program from beginning to end.

Better yet, just watch people train at any public gym. It always amazes me how people can do presumably very simple movements so very, very wrong. A very typical example is that tricep machine where you sit in it and do sort of a dipping movement. I see the shoulders going up and down like a shrugging movement and I see the arm bend maybe 10 degrees. So little range of motion for the tricep as to make it virtually useless. Part of the reason for machines to is take out the idiot factor. To make it easier to do a movement correctly. No concerned about balancing and controlling the weight and taking it through the proper plan of motion. But some how some way they will always find a way to do a very simple movement wrong. Horribly wrong
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: dustin on May 07, 2011, 04:48:58 AM
I like my job.

Yeah but don't you train athletes? We're taking about studly men in thongs and lifting for vanity purposes. Please stay on topic.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 07, 2011, 08:37:48 AM
Couldn't agree more.  If you're fat and weak it's because you're lazy. Get off your arse and stop shovelling pies down your face, it's not rocket science.

People would rather pay $$$ for a pat on the back than actually achieve something for free with a bit of actual discipline.

I keep getting asked (well, occasionally) what supplements I take to look good and folk get all  ???  :( when I laugh at them.

For the most part you're right, but when they go the doc and get a prescription of "do this or else" because they back a messed up blood panel it's usually a wake up call for most so they start seeking out a solution and now a days going to a competent trainer is usually the way. You say it's not rocket science and it isn't, but you have to make a long term plan for this person for them to succeed and to make you look like a super trainer. So if you have lets say 12-16 weeks before this person goes back to the doc for a follow up blood panel how are YOU going to plan this. Are you going to wing it day by day and HOPE it works or is it best to plan a program that WILL work?

Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: chunkramwell on May 07, 2011, 08:41:32 AM
Coach, I do respect what you do brother. The most I'll ever know is what works and what doesn't for me. You seem like the kind of dude who's successful for a reason and brought great results to many.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on May 07, 2011, 09:08:15 AM
The only guys worth taking advice from will break it down for you in fifteen minutes and they will do it for free.  Physical Culture is a spiritual way of life.  Watch Jack LaLanne on youtube for free and you'll learn the Truth.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 07, 2011, 09:14:07 AM
Coach, I do respect what you do brother. The most I'll ever know is what works and what doesn't for me. You seem like the kind of dude who's successful for a reason and brought great results to many.

You know yourself better than anyone, if it works for you, you can't ask for much more.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: HTexan on May 07, 2011, 09:48:57 AM
I'm really not sure where or when this nonsense of paying some half-a-fag fifty bucks an hour to teahc you how to curl a five pound dumbell while standing on a big red ball.  In fifteen minutes I can give you all the info you need to know on how to lift weights, eat and look like a man.
some  people need motivation. but they can always just get a buddy to lift with tho.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Natural Man on May 07, 2011, 12:55:15 PM
learn some basic exercises watching vids and schematics on the internet. Train 3 to 4 hours a week. Lift the weights to failure, repeat, until the end of the workout, which should last aproximatively 45 to 60 min a day. Either train in a gym or buy yourself a rack and some barbells and dumbells and a solid bench to train at home.

Repeat the same routine every week. Increase weights progressively until you reach your natural plateau.


Nutrition; drink enough water, mostly eat chicken, tuna, some vegatables ,beef and pork once in a while. If you re an ecto or meso you can have as many cheatmeals as you want. if you re an endomorph skips cheatmeals and snacks. reduce your fat and carbs intakes. Run. You cannot target fat loss if you re a woman, you ll have to do lipo. Dont empty your wallers on supplements/fat burners -which arent steroids- they re useless...


Repeat, repeat, repeat... for weeks, months, years. and voila.


OMG! I gave up the ultimate secrets about building muscles the natural way!
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 07, 2011, 02:34:04 PM
learn some basic exercises watching vids and schematics on the internet. Train 3 to 4 hours a week. Lift the weights to failure, repeat, until the end of the workout, which should last aproximatively 45 to 60 min a day. Either train in a gym or buy yourself a rack and some barbells and dumbells and a solid bench to train at home.

Repeat the same routine every week.


Nutrition; drink enough water, mostly eat chicken, tuna, some vegatables ,beef and pork once in a while. If you re an ecto or meso you can have as many cheatmeals as you want. if you re an endomorph skips cheatmeals and snacks. reduce your fat and carbs intakes. Dont empty your wallers on supplements...


Repeat, repeat, repeat... for weeks, months, years. and voila.


OMG! I gave up the ultimate secrets about building muscles the natural way!

How do you expect to improve if you do the same thing all the time.......without drugs?
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: maxkane69 on May 07, 2011, 02:40:29 PM
The only guys worth taking advice from will break it down for you in fifteen minutes and they will do it for free.  Physical Culture is a spiritual way of life.  Watch Jack LaLanne on youtube for free and you'll learn the Truth.

Bodybuilder Lex Reeves spreading the truth an common sense in this tread!
Keep posting Lex!
You are an asset for this board!
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 07, 2011, 02:44:03 PM
Bodybuilder Lex Reeves spreading the truth an common sense in this tread!
Keep posting Lex!
You are an asset for this board!

Only for the clueless.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on May 07, 2011, 02:49:04 PM
Sounds as if the coach is getting a little nervous.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 07, 2011, 02:56:55 PM
Sounds as if the coach is getting a little nervous.

LOL...of what?









Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Natural Man on May 07, 2011, 03:20:31 PM
How do you expect to improve if you do the same thing all the time.......without drugs?
oh yeah sorry i forgot one important point; increase the weights until you reach your natural plateau.

Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Natural Man on May 07, 2011, 03:21:21 PM
Sounds as if the coach is getting a little nervous.
There will always be morons who ll pay him even if they alrdy know eveything they need to know. They re basically paying to use his gym, the equipment. The guy is a salesman tho. It has nothing to do with the content, it's all about the looks, and he sure knows how to portray himself as a jesus believer who knows it all - while being on steroids-.

Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 07, 2011, 03:45:04 PM
Until you reach your natural plateu? Then what?
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Natural Man on May 07, 2011, 03:52:42 PM
Until you reach your natural plateu? Then what?

then you re supposed to have a family, a wife, kids and a socio profesionnal status that will make you feel being part of something bigger than you.

You re not suposed to inject steroids to get bigger when you reach your plateau. Only if you have something to prove to others because you werent loved enough in your childhood and have deeply rooted self esteem issues. Only people who are in love with themselves and cannot truly love someone else -because they werent loved enough- push the limits even further and need the artificial feeling produced by the use of hormones to stay alive. Like any other addiction, it only serves the purpose to compensate for underachievments in other areas of life you didnt find any way to solve but running away from them. 


(http://my-ecoach.com/online/resources/4932/maslow1.jpg)
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: pellius on May 07, 2011, 03:53:43 PM
Also, there is a difference between personal trainers that you find at your local club and what someone like Coach does. Coach is more of a, well, coach. There is not a single successful athlete at any level that has not had the help of a coach. And that includes a coach that specializes in athletic conditioning. As far as I know, Coach has little or no experience in MMA, yet some of the top fighters go to him for training. Why is that? Because someone of Coach's background can see what kind of activity an athlete participates in, and that can be football, basketball, volleyball or MMA and determine the type of conditioning program that would be optimal. A conditioning program for a baseball player I imagine would be markedly different from a cage fighter.

Also, I don't like to diminish the role of personal trainers you see at the gym. We take so much for granted because we've been at this for a while. But imagine someone who has never exercised a day in their lives walking into a modern commercial gym? You think they would have a clue of even where to start. How to properly set up and use a machine or barbell? Do you think they have even the slightest clue about what muscles do what or even what they're called? For some it's necessary to have someone with proper training and experience to walk them through.  
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 07, 2011, 03:57:36 PM
Who said anything about getting bigger? This is the problem, most have one track mind when it comes to training, you only know what you read in your favorite muscle magazine, your knowledge is limited to a few articals you might have read and you think that translates into you being an expert about training.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Natural Man on May 07, 2011, 04:04:41 PM
Who said anything about getting bigger? This is the problem, most have one track mind when it comes to training, you only know what you read in your favorite muscle magazine, your knowledge is limited to a few articals you might have read and you think that translates into you being an expert about training.

I dont give a damn about being an athlete. I lift weights 4 hours a week since 12 years, play basketball, am an ectomorph i know all i need to know about physical conditionning. I could teach anyone in one hour everything i know about weight lifting, how to get lean and muscular.

BUT...

i couldnt teach anyone how to shoot a basketball in one hour,
nor could i teach an endomorph or a fat mesomorph how to lose weights quickly. It would need long time monitoring.
But even this is debattable as i see more and more women and men learning how to seriously lose weights all by themselves just from reading stuff from the internet.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Cornelius Funk on May 07, 2011, 05:35:23 PM
When I was a marine I went to a hooker and walked out without banging her.
I let her keep the 20 bucks and laughed about it.
I have no moral hang ups on sex or hookers.
For whatever reason I had no interest in screwing a hooker.
Once a marine always a marine. That's learned in bootcamp. You, Sir, are full of shit.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: dj181 on May 07, 2011, 11:57:26 PM
Good post uber, especially the training part of it ;D
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: WillGrant on May 08, 2011, 12:07:43 AM
they need to suck my balls
Isn't this why you got fired and are now not allowed to teach small boys ? ???
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 08, 2011, 10:28:04 AM
I dont give a damn about being an athlete. I lift weights 4 hours a week since 12 years, play basketball, am an ectomorph i know all i need to know about physical conditionning. I could teach anyone in one hour everything i know about weight lifting, how to get lean and muscular.

BUT...

i couldnt teach anyone how to shoot a basketball in one hour,
nor could i teach an endomorph or a fat mesomorph how to lose weights quickly. It would need long time monitoring.
But even this is debattable as i see more and more women and men learning how to seriously lose weights all by themselves just from reading stuff from the internet.

You're posts as well as others were referring to trainers, you didn't specify what kind of trainers. Although 90% of my clientele are athletes, I'm still a trainer, yours, as well as others made it blanket statement. As far as the losing weight part, not every can be learned on the internet, they learn the different gimmicks associated with "weight loss" as do it and when it doesn't work out, they go on to the next gimmick and so on and so. Despite what people say on here and other places, it's just not a matter of just cutting calories, to do it RIGHT there's quite a bit involved. This is where people ON HERE read something on the internet and preach on here "this is the best way" then consider themselves
"experts."
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Hulkotron on May 08, 2011, 11:03:12 AM
Although 90% of my clientele are athletes, I'm still a trainer, yours, as well as others made it blanket statement.
"experts."

Most people posting in this thread are actually clearly distinguishing between useful trainers like you and the worthless type.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Crossbow on May 08, 2011, 12:15:34 PM
As somebody who regularly takes personal training sessions with different personal trainers (one for weights, one for boxing, one for swimming), I dare say that a good trainer can make a big difference and can be well worth the money.

Yes, I know how to perform almost all exercises with good technique, but I have made the experience that often when I hit the gym after a long and stressful working day I just perform the same basic exercises, go through the motions, while my mind is still at work.

Having a trainer structure my workouts, mix things up, push me to my limits and teach me new things is very helpful.

Does this mean, that everybody would benefit from a good trainer ? Maybe, maybe not. We are all different. But in my case (maybe because I managed to find very good trainers), I learn something new in every workout and I can definitely see improvements that I would not have if I only worked out on my own.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Dokey111 on May 08, 2011, 12:24:16 PM
Shut up.  This is Getbig.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 08, 2011, 12:26:22 PM
Great post crossbow.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Devon97 on May 08, 2011, 12:39:31 PM
I can copy and paste it from Berardi's site , just like you do.

Berardi's a nutritionist & professor in academia, not a strength trainer/coach
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 08, 2011, 01:37:47 PM
Che's never seen the site and knew nothing of Berardi until I mentioned him. But Che's the expert.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Boost on May 08, 2011, 01:51:01 PM
I've trained under Lyle McDonald. Love his no "Broscience" attitude. Dispelling myths and bodybuilding Dogma.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 08, 2011, 02:03:08 PM
Personal Trainers come in a very wide variety from your hourly paid club trainer that just shows someone how to use the equipment in the gym to more specialized trainers that take care of a wide variety of things.  No trainer is alike so you simply can't group them all into one category.  Dr. Berardi and Dr. Layne Norton for example are not personal trainers but are folks that work in maximizing human performance and development which entails a lot more stuff than just personal training  


Despite the "criticism" of the PT industry, its at least an honest means of making a living and very easy to do if you're willing to listen and learn.  
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: che on May 08, 2011, 02:13:17 PM
Berardi's a nutritionist & professor in academia, not a strength trainer/coach

STFU if you don't know what you're talking about .
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: che on May 08, 2011, 02:14:10 PM
Che's never seen the site and knew nothing of Berardi until I mentioned him. But Che's the expert.
Where did I say I was an expert  ???
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Hulkotron on May 08, 2011, 02:43:58 PM
John Berardi is not a professor.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 08, 2011, 03:39:11 PM
Che, Devon97 was the one other I was talking about.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 08, 2011, 05:10:22 PM
@ Hulkotron, yes he is. He's the adjunct Professor at the University Of Texas.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Hulkotron on May 08, 2011, 05:16:31 PM
@ Hulkotron, yes he is. He's the adjunct Professor at the University Of Texas.

"Professor" and "adjunct professor" are two very different things.

Adjunct is basically a part time employee who has no formal role with the rest of the full-time faculty and may or may not actually do anything on a regular basis.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Dokey111 on May 08, 2011, 05:17:36 PM
"Professor" and "adjunct professor" are two very different things.

Not when you're short!
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Ursus on May 08, 2011, 05:31:47 PM
Again, lots of people on here dogging trainers. So here's a challenge for all of you who think you really think its easy. Design a 12 week periodized program from beginning to end.

TBH I could do that very easily.

It is more important to be good at marketing to be a good trainer. The majority of famous trainers are the former.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 08, 2011, 06:05:41 PM
TBH I could do that very easily.

It is more important to be good at marketing to be a good trainer. The majority of famous trainers are the former.

Exactly.

Anyone with a good grasp of diet and fitness can get somebody in shape....It's REALLY NOT that complex, as much as these trainers want you to think it is.

Dieting is 85% of achieved lean body composition , and you are the one who has to accomplish that, a trainer can't make you eat right.

as far as exercise...any sound workout plan will do....and there are a ZILLION of them at your fingertips
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Yev33 on May 08, 2011, 10:38:59 PM
I watch people in the gym time and time again doing the same stupid shit they always do and keep looking the same way year after year. So yeah while there is some good information out there , there is also a ton of garbage. I think that almost anyone can get in shape on their own without the help of a trainer just by being consistent and putting forth the effort when it comes to training and diet. But there is a big difference between getting in shape and putting on a significant amount of muscle and strength, and/or drastically improving your speed and explosiveness. That requires that either YOU know what the hell you are doing or you have someone train you that knows what the hell they are doing. Because at that point it's not just about hard work and effort, you actually have to KNOW where, when, and how to channel your energy and motivation. This is why beginners don't train the same way as advanced athletes.
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: dyslexic on May 09, 2011, 12:07:52 AM
Is this thread worth anything?
Title: Re: "Personal Training"??
Post by: Yev33 on May 09, 2011, 12:15:35 AM
Not really...