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Title: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 09, 2011, 11:01:15 PM
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2011/05/...ers-cant-read/

Let's hear it for the Department if Retardation. The Department's mission is: to promote student achievement and preparation for global competitiveness by fostering educational excellence and ensuring equal access.


DETROIT (WWJ) – According to a new report, 47 percent of Detroiters are ”functionally illiterate.” The alarming new statistics were released by the Detroit Regional Workforce Fund on Wednesday.

WWJ Newsradio 950 spoke with the Fund’s Director, Karen Tyler-Ruiz, who explained exactly what this means
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“Not able to fill out basic forms, for getting a job — those types of basic everyday (things). Reading a prescription; what’s on the bottle, how many you should take… just your basic everyday tasks,” she said.

“I don’t really know how they get by, but they do. Are they getting by well? Well, that’s another question,” Tyler-Ruiz said.

Some of the Detroit suburbs also have high numbers of functionally illiterate: 34 percent in Pontiac and 24 percent in Southfield.

“For other major urban areas, we are a little bit on the high side… We compare, slightly higher, to Washington D.C.’s urban population, in certain ZIP codes in Washington D.C. and in Cleveland,” she said.

Tyler-Ruiz said only 10 percent of those who can’t read have gotten any help to resolve it.

The report will be used to provide better training for local workers.

Note: Illiteracy rates are from the National Institute for Literacy, as reported in a new study by the Detroit Regional Workforce Fund.
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: 240 is Back on May 10, 2011, 04:41:09 AM
dayum.
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: newmom on May 10, 2011, 04:44:56 AM
that's just sad
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Deicide on May 10, 2011, 04:51:56 AM
Why don't you just say it instead of writng it! I don't know how to read!
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 10, 2011, 04:58:32 AM
Quick - send more money to the nea and unions! 
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: andreisdaman on May 10, 2011, 06:03:43 AM
Quick - send more money to the nea and unions! 

I just knew you would show up in this thread
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 10, 2011, 06:07:00 AM
I just knew you would show up in this thread

And?   its another example of ghettoization of America thanks to the govt hacks and "teachers" who are nothing more than rapacious leeches to the taxpayers.     
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: whork25 on May 10, 2011, 06:09:20 AM
And?   its another example of ghettoization of America thanks to the govt hacks and "teachers" who are nothing more than rapacious leeches to the taxpayers.     

Dont your kids have teachers?

Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: newmom on May 10, 2011, 06:12:30 AM
And?   its another example of ghettoization of America thanks to the govt hacks and "teachers" who are nothing more than rapacious leeches to the taxpayers.     

I dunno. My little one's teacher is great. I'm in her class at least once a week as a parent volunteer. My daughter has grown so much since September. I'm so sad that she won't have her next year because she is a great teacher. She really seems to care about the progress of the kids. She can't be more than 26  either.
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 10, 2011, 06:19:35 AM
Dont your kids have teachers?



I don't have kids and see the trash on the corner when it comes out of school.   Disgusting.   I see these ghetto leeches and parasites every day bothering business people etc.  

For example - I have a pizza place across the street from me.   Small place.   There are 4 tables in there.  The owner is an albanian guy and most of the workers are mexis.  i have been going there for years.   The wife works in there, they bust their ass and dont make a ton of money.    

Other day, about 10 fat leeches come in and take up all the seats.   One girl ordered one slice and a soda.   $3.   They were cursing, loud, boisterous, etc.  The owner told them - "girls, I dont mind having you hear, but you have to order something".   These parasites launched into a tirade, refused to leave, called the owner racist, made fun of the mexican guy, etc.   The other customers on line were uncomfortable, etc.  I told one of these low lifes "have fun being on welfare the rest of your life, you fat mess."   They started with me and I just laughed at them and said - have fun being a welfare queen your entire life and walked out.    

I see this crap day in and day out.   Sorry - "Teachers" and public school system is a joke in the country.  Teachers are given far too much respect and credence for the terrible product they are delivering.            
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: whork25 on May 10, 2011, 06:23:09 AM
Ahh okay but that does not make all teachers leaches does it?
Im sure there are bad apples i had some crappy teachers but some good ones also
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 10, 2011, 06:26:41 AM
Ahh okay but that does not make all teachers leaches does it?
Im sure there are bad apples i had some crappy teachers but some good ones also


Try getting an average teacher to work an extra day and see what happens.  I dont know about other places, but I know a lot of teachers, and most are grossly overpaid and underworked and do nothing but complain about pay and tell themselves how under appreciated they are.   

As for this story - I wonder who these 50% voted for last election?       
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: whork25 on May 10, 2011, 06:31:06 AM
I dont know many teachers so..

But if you are choosing a career and want to get wealthy the teachers profession isnt really the first that comes to mind...
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 10, 2011, 06:34:28 AM
I dont know many teachers so..

But if you are choosing a career and want to get wealthy the teachers profession isnt really the first that comes to mind...

 ::)  ::)

If you tally up the total compensation of the average teacher, in NY, CT, NJ, they are grossly overpaid.   Its not just salary, its the pension, time off, health benes for life, less than 8 hour work day, the colas and step ups, etc etc.   

Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: whork25 on May 10, 2011, 06:42:09 AM
::)  ::)

If you tally up the total compensation of the average teacher, in NY, CT, NJ, they are grossly overpaid.   Its not just salary, its the pension, time off, health benes for life, less than 8 hour work day, the colas and step ups, etc etc.   



Yeah those bastards ::)
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 10, 2011, 06:44:01 AM
Yeah those bastards ::)

No, I'm not calling them bastards, but am saying that for what they are paid, the work product sucks and is grossly over priced. 
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: whork25 on May 10, 2011, 06:47:50 AM
No, I'm not calling them bastards, but am saying that for what they are paid, the work product sucks and is grossly over priced. 

I agree.

However this was what you wrote earlier:
"teachers" who are nothing more than rapacious leeches to the taxpayers.   

There is a big difference   
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 10, 2011, 06:48:58 AM
I agree.

However this was what you wrote earlier:
"teachers" who are nothing more than rapacious leeches to the taxpayers.   

There is a big difference   

Ok, I should not have made such a broad statement, I'm only going by what I see in NYC, westchester, and people I know personally.   
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: whork25 on May 10, 2011, 06:50:41 AM
Ok, I should not have made such a broad statement, I'm only going by what I see in NYC, westchester, and people I know personally.   

Its cool we all do that myself included
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: MCWAY on May 10, 2011, 07:14:11 AM
That's exactly why my kids are either homeschooled or are in private school.
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 10, 2011, 10:24:28 AM
Crack Pipes Often Disguised As Novelty Items At Stores
May 10, 2011 5:45 AM

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2011/05/10/crack-pipes-often-disguised-as-novelty-items-at-stores



Crack pipes are disguised as novelties in some neighborhood stores. (Credit: David L. Malhalab – MNS Photo )

DETROIT (WWJ) – Be careful of what’s being sold under the counter.

Crack pipes are being sold at neighborhood stores from Detroit to the suburbs.

That’s according to  former Detroit police officer David Mahalab, who says the pipes are disguised as novelties.

“To avoid police detection and to try to avoid the law, they put a pen insert – (in) a glass tube, and try to evade the law, which talks about paraphernalia and stuff that has a second use,” says Mahalab.

Mahalab says they’re also disguised as a ballpoint pen or small glass vases with a rose sticking out of them.

Mahalab says people may be surprised where the pipes are being sold.

“Dollar stores, gas stations, liquor stores, virtually every store in the 6th Precinct that I did enforcement with, were given a ticket and found guilty. I’ve seen them in Allen Park, Dearborn Heights and Garden City,” says Mahalab.

Mahalab says the pipe sales are lucrative, but bring crack addicts and crime to neighborhoods.


________________________ ________

Palins' fault. 
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: newmom on May 10, 2011, 10:28:12 AM
33386 has a point about NYC schools. When I lived there, sometimes I'd walk my ex's niece and nephews to their school. First of all, I'd see the teachers in the playground area, swearing, yapping on their phones, dressed like god knows what. The first time I brought them, they didn't question who I was. I was able to walk right into the school. Not saying all schools are like this but seems pretty consistent in Manhattan and the Bronx
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: newmom on May 10, 2011, 10:30:02 AM
That's exactly why my kids are either homeschooled or are in private school.

I don't care for how the middle school is in my town, it's the only one. Grant it I have 6 years before that happens and perhaps it will get better, but will look into going into private school.
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: MCWAY on May 10, 2011, 11:03:29 AM
I don't care for how the middle school is in my town, it's the only one. Grant it I have 6 years before that happens and perhaps it will get better, but will look into going into private school.

You may want to consider homeschooling. A number of parents find themselves in your predicament. The public schools sucks but they may not be able to afford private school.
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Dos Equis on May 10, 2011, 11:34:45 AM
Holy smokes.   :o   :-\
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 10, 2011, 11:42:14 AM
Holy smokes.   :o   :-\

And guess who they all vote for?   
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: SAMSON123 on May 10, 2011, 11:50:21 AM
I just knew you would show up in this thread

With GETBIG being his job, what do you expect!!!!

Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 10, 2011, 11:59:22 AM
With GETBIG being his job, what do you expect!!!!



I'm CIA didnt you know? 
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Dos Equis on May 10, 2011, 12:00:49 PM
And guess who they all vote for?   

I doubt most of them vote.
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 10, 2011, 12:02:54 PM
I doubt most of them vote.

Wrong! 

I do vote fraud for elections every few years.   You would not believe what occurs on election day.

I'll pm you my crednetials on this.   I have done vote fraud stuff every year since 2000 and you would not believe what goes on.   

   
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Dos Equis on May 10, 2011, 12:16:51 PM
Wrong! 

I do vote fraud for elections every few years.   You would not believe what occurs on election day.

I'll pm you my crednetials on this.   I have done vote fraud stuff every year since 2000 and you would not believe what goes on.   

   

I'll take your word for it.  I work the polls sometimes, but mainly to answer phones and try to resolve voting problems. 
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: andreisdaman on May 10, 2011, 09:31:07 PM
That's exactly why my kids are either homeschooled or are in private school.

what are you teaching them at home?..how to spot deals for cell-tech and NO shotgun???
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: andreisdaman on May 10, 2011, 09:32:56 PM
I don't have kids and see the trash on the corner when it comes out of school.   Disgusting.   I see these ghetto leeches and parasites every day bothering business people etc.  

For example - I have a pizza place across the street from me.   Small place.   There are 4 tables in there.  The owner is an albanian guy and most of the workers are mexis.  i have been going there for years.   The wife works in there, they bust their ass and dont make a ton of money.    

Other day, about 10 fat leeches come in and take up all the seats.   One girl ordered one slice and a soda.   $3.   They were cursing, loud, boisterous, etc.  The owner told them - "girls, I dont mind having you hear, but you have to order something".   These parasites launched into a tirade, refused to leave, called the owner racist, made fun of the mexican guy, etc.   The other customers on line were uncomfortable, etc.  I told one of these low lifes "have fun being on welfare the rest of your life, you fat mess."   They started with me and I just laughed at them and said - have fun being a welfare queen your entire life and walked out.    

I see this crap day in and day out.   Sorry - "Teachers" and public school system is a joke in the country.  Teachers are given far too much respect and credence for the terrible product they are delivering.            

has nothing to do with the teachers///its the parents
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: andreisdaman on May 10, 2011, 09:35:11 PM
Wrong! 

I do vote fraud for elections every few years.   You would not believe what occurs on election day.

I'll pm you my crednetials on this.   I have done vote fraud stuff every year since 2000 and you would not believe what goes on.   

   

I'm sure you are also a notary public, travel agent, insurance salesman, and part-time chiropractor as well??? 
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: MCWAY on May 11, 2011, 08:55:45 AM
what are you teaching them at home?..how to spot deals for cell-tech and NO shotgun???

My little one doesn't need to know how to do that yet. Besides, I don't need the help anyway (and apparently, neither do you, Mr. 14-pounds-of-Cell-Tech).
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 11, 2011, 08:59:10 AM
I'm sure you are also a notary public, travel agent, insurance salesman, and part-time chiropractor as well??? 

I am a notary public.   Do you want me to post my credentials as a vote fraud monitor for the RNC?   If so, will you delete your account and come by my office (only ten minutes away) with a case of beer? 
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: andreisdaman on May 11, 2011, 09:18:16 AM
I am a notary public.   Do you want me to post my credentials as a vote fraud monitor for the RNC?   If so, will you delete your account and come by my office (only ten minutes away) with a case of beer? 

I won't delete my account..its not that serious....I was saying that stuff in jest..I figure you would be a Notary if you are a lawyer..but I'm sure you do the other stuff I mentioned as well on the side :D
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 11, 2011, 09:19:36 AM
I won't delete my account..its not that serious....I was saying that stuff in jest..I figure you would be a Notary if you are a lawyer..but I'm sure you do the other stuff I mentioned as well on the side :D

How about the case of beer then?   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 12, 2011, 10:00:50 AM
http://www.freep.com/article/20110512/NEWS01/105120535/Money-help-poor-people-buys-furniture-Detroit-department?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE



This is why I loathe and left wing do gooders.

LMFAO. 
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: andreisdaman on May 12, 2011, 01:56:25 PM
How about the case of beer then?   ;D  ;D

WHAT KIND OF BEER DO YOU DRINK?
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 12, 2011, 01:57:32 PM
WHAT KIND OF BEER DO YOU DRINK?

Any kind but malt or guiness.   That shit is nasty.     
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: andreisdaman on May 12, 2011, 02:03:03 PM
Any kind but malt or guiness.   That shit is nasty.     

I usually drink Heineken, but I really like red and dark beers which they seldom sell in the corner stores here in the Bronx..I love to go to restaurants where I can get Killian's Red, and I like some Sam Adams beers as well.....I also like Negra Modelo which is a very dark Mexican beer......and I'll drink Foster's in big blue can during football season...Guiness has grown on me..I actually like it now...

Malt is disgusting..don't know how spanish people and caribbean people drink that stuff..but the worst beer I ever tasted in my life is Rolling Rock which I only see young white college students drinking
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 12, 2011, 02:14:11 PM
I usually drink Heineken, but I really like red and dark beers which they seldom sell in the corner stores here in the Bronx..I love to go to restaurants where I can get Killian's Red, and I like some Sam Adams beers as well.....I also like Negra Modelo which is a very dark Mexican beer......and I'll drink Foster's in big blue can during football season...Guiness has grown on me..I actually like it now...

Malt is disgusting..don't know how spanish people and caribbean people drink that stuff..but the worst beer I ever tasted in my life is Rolling Rock which I only see young white college students drinking

If I am at a bar - I like Sam Draft or Heinkens.    If I am with the boys - I'll down Miller Lites or Bud Lites.     
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: andreisdaman on May 12, 2011, 02:15:52 PM
If I am at a bar - I like Sam Draft or Heinkens.    If I am with the boys - I'll down Miller Lites or Bud Lites.    

Are you a homo??? :D..only metrosexuals drink that stuff
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: 225for70 on May 12, 2011, 02:17:37 PM
I usually drink Heineken, but I really like red and dark beers which they seldom sell in the corner stores here in the Bronx..I love to go to restaurants where I can get Killian's Red, and I like some Sam Adams beers as well.....I also like Negra Modelo which is a very dark Mexican beer......and I'll drink Foster's in big blue can during football season...Guiness has grown on me..I actually like it now...

Malt is disgusting..don't know how spanish people and caribbean people drink that stuff..but the worst beer I ever tasted in my life is Rolling Rock which I only see young white college students drinking

Modelo is a good beer..

Rolling rock is the absolute worse beer for me. :-X
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Parker on May 12, 2011, 05:25:10 PM
You may want to consider homeschooling. A number of parents find themselves in your predicament. The public schools sucks but they may not be able to afford private school.
The problem with Homeschooling is that the kids are smart as hell, but are socially stunted...I went to HS with several, and that was the case..I also know of 4 others, all socially stunted adults...
You may counter with "the parents try and ________", but believe you me, parents today, are not parents, and cannot teach children how to deal with today's social settings....most parents today don't even know good table etiquette. Kids have been taught in social settings with other kids since there was school for a reason... 
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: tu_holmes on May 12, 2011, 05:52:08 PM
This is not a fault of the teachers or any education entity... This is the parents fucking fault.

As Chris Rock said... If your kids can't read it's momma's fault... if the kids can't read cause there's no lights on in the house that's daddy's fault.

If kids can't read it's their god damn parents fault for letting them not know how to read... It's not the government's fault that a kid can't read, nor a teacher's fault... It's the damn teacher's fault if they pass the damn kid who can't read, but that's all.

This is just putting the blame and pointing fingers... Isn't that what liberals do?
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2011, 06:18:22 PM
This is not a fault of the teachers or any education entity... This is the parents fucking fault.

As Chris Rock said... If your kids can't read it's momma's fault... if the kids can't read cause there's no lights on in the house that's daddy's fault.

If kids can't read it's their god damn parents fault for letting them not know how to read... It's not the government's fault that a kid can't read, nor a teacher's fault... It's the damn teacher's fault if they pass the damn kid who can't read, but that's all.

This is just putting the blame and pointing fingers... Isn't that what liberals do?


It's a shared responsibility.  Our tax dollars pay public school teachers to teach kids how to read. 

Parents should know whether their kids are literate. 

If someone makes it through school without learning how to read, then both the teachers and the parents have failed. 
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: tu_holmes on May 12, 2011, 06:28:14 PM
It's a shared responsibility.  Our tax dollars pay public school teachers to teach kids how to read. 

Parents should know whether their kids are literate. 

If someone makes it through school without learning how to read, then both the teachers and the parents have failed. 

Thank you for simply re-stating what I said in my previous post.
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2011, 06:40:53 PM
Thank you for simply re-stating what I said in my previous post.

Except I said it much better than you.   :)
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: tu_holmes on May 12, 2011, 06:41:32 PM
Except I said it much better than you.   :)

Dream on.
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: andreisdaman on May 12, 2011, 07:39:04 PM
This is not a fault of the teachers or any education entity... This is the parents fucking fault.

As Chris Rock said... If your kids can't read it's momma's fault... if the kids can't read cause there's no lights on in the house that's daddy's fault.

If kids can't read it's their god damn parents fault for letting them not know how to read... It's not the government's fault that a kid can't read, nor a teacher's fault... It's the damn teacher's fault if they pass the damn kid who can't read, but that's all.

This is just putting the blame and pointing fingers... Isn't that what liberals do?


er....no..this is not what liberals do....Liberals simply point out the mitigating circumstances  and don't try to stick their head in the sand and pretend that everyone is the same and that all you have to do is pull yourself up through your bootstraps....

some supposed liberals go overboard and start making excuses for people but the vast majority don't and just acknowledge that society does not treat everyone equally which should be the goal
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Fury on May 12, 2011, 07:45:02 PM
Quick, throw more money at it!!!!!
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: Skip8282 on May 12, 2011, 08:09:58 PM
This is just putting the blame and pointing fingers...






Seems to me that's all that ever goes on in the educational debate.  Teachers blame administrators and parents, administrators blame teachers and parents, parents blame administrators and teachers  (at least it appears to me that way sometimes).

And, they've all got the solution!  I've yet to talk with someone in education who doesn't know how to fix the problems.  And yet, they never get resolved...
Title: Re: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read
Post by: andreisdaman on May 13, 2011, 07:23:15 AM


Seems to me that's all that ever goes on in the educational debate.  Teachers blame administrators and parents, administrators blame teachers and parents, parents blame administrators and teachers  (at least it appears to me that way sometimes).

And, they've all got the solution!  I've yet to talk with someone in education who doesn't know how to fix the problems.  And yet, they never get resolved...

thats because everyone is afraid to stick their necks out...and no one wants to work harder....kids don't want to work harder...they would rather just get by and play video games and text their friends ll day....parents so don't want to work harder because that would mean they would actually have to parent and deny their kids their goodies and they don't want to be the bad guys..teachers don't want to do more because its not in their contract