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Title: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Wiggs on May 12, 2011, 08:12:31 PM
This can mean so many things I know but lets say American music in general including all popular genres.  

I guess one could say the major reason is today's music industry equates a good song as being a good beat and a catchy hook.

Oh yeah....in before GH15.
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Post by: Wiggs on May 12, 2011, 08:17:35 PM
I would also say that it's much easier to get into the music industry now vs back then where the talent pool was smaller but the quality was very high and now the talent pool is larger and the quality is low.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Game Time on May 12, 2011, 08:20:17 PM
It's a matter of opinion. Face the truth bud, you're getting old. My generation is no different then your's or the one before that. We are just younger.
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Post by: dj181 on May 12, 2011, 08:20:39 PM
Since about 83, the quality of music has plummeted :'(
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Post by: Rami on May 12, 2011, 08:21:25 PM
what's this "American music in general" thing you speak of?  bad luck I guess. to me music quality only increases! I listen to only awesome stuff.

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Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 08:21:42 PM
Music has been declining for certain.  
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 08:23:53 PM
A Master Ballad for you Wiggs.  Listen to the power of Tyler`s voice.


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Post by: Rami on May 12, 2011, 08:29:21 PM
This guy just got out of jail again. New album 2010 and 2011!

there are plenty of deranged individuals with great talent around in these times. we truly live in blessed ages! one man band, does all the instruments and lyrics

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Post by: PJim on May 12, 2011, 08:32:10 PM

1995
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Post by: outby43 on May 12, 2011, 08:32:51 PM
I hated 80's music like Devo, Men at Work, Cyndi Lauper, Billy Ocean,  etc..,  it was all gay.  Then Hair bands came back and it was great again.  Grunge replaced the hair bands and that was OK too.  Now we are at that weak point again where there is no front runner really.  Lady Gaga and that whole line of talentless hacks are not considered greatness IMO.
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Post by: dj181 on May 12, 2011, 08:36:05 PM
I hated 80's music like Devo, Men at Work, Cyndi Lauper, Billy Ocean,  etc..,  it was all gay.  Then Hair bands came back and it was great again.  Grunge replaced the hair bands and that was OK too.  Now we are at that weak point again where there is no front runner really.  Lady Gaga and that whole line of talentless hacks are not considered greatness IMO.

And when did they start up? Bout 83 :P
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 08:44:42 PM
 8)

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Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 08:52:57 PM
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Post by: Wiggs on May 12, 2011, 09:04:03 PM
Yes, Thank you Adam that is a classic. I've never seen the video.  That is music, she can sing!
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 09:11:24 PM
Yes, Thank you Adam that is a classic. I've never seen the video.  That is music, she can sing!
One of the craziest videos of all time.

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Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 09:12:36 PM
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Post by: Wiggs on May 12, 2011, 09:15:41 PM
Adam what genre is that Tom Waits song/album, some branch of the blues?
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 09:25:52 PM
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 09:36:12 PM
Adam what genre is that Tom Waits song/album, some branch of the blues?
I think he is in a category by himself "Waitsian Blues".  He has some really interesting lyrics and songs.
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on May 12, 2011, 09:37:47 PM
 ::)

Azathoth (USA)
Aurora Borealis
Thy Withering Orchard
Substance For God
Living Sorrow
Lestregus Nosferatus
Syn Ze Sase Tri
DragonhammeR
Labyrinthine
Horn
Aeon Noctis
Sycronomica
Amor E Morte (Bulgaria)
Dead Elizabeth
Menhir (Germany)
Amfate
Therion
Antestor
Whisper Of Soul
Astral Luminous
Summoning
Farmer Boys
Mundanus Imperium
Aeveron
Ea (USA)
Butterfly Temple
Antarhes
Of Celestial
7th Moon
Megasus
Wehrmacht
Oracle Of Fire
Falconer
Nightrealm (Finland)
Ikuinen Kaamos
Star One
Under The Scythe
Haggard
How Like A Winter
Me And Him Call It Us
Acolyte
Scythe Scar
T3CHN0PH0B1A
Amaseffer
Turisas
Lunatics Without Skateboards
Huntdown
Baldrs Draumar
Luna Mortis
Leprechaun
Kaamos (Finland)
Metallica
Dark Angel
Pantera
Possessed
Sodom
Devastation
Autopsy
Death
Metal Church
Venom
Anthrax
Megadeth
Slayer
D.R.I.
Blood Feast
Sacred Reich
Hallows Eve
Exumer
Exhorder
Morbid Saint
Morbid Angel
Ghoul
Mosh Angel
Death Angel
Forced Entry
Fueled by Fire
Voivod
Exodus
Testament
Mayhem
Bathory
Candlemass
Pentagram
Sabbat
Fatality
Annihilator
Incubus (Thrash/Death Metal band)
Accuser
Slaughter (Thrash Metal band)
Insane
Exciter
Deathrow
Carnivore
Suicidal Angels
National Suicide
Rigor Mortis
Triptykon
Celtic Frost
Hellhammer
Darkness
Assassin
Atrophy
Slaughterhouse
S.O.D
Overkill
Wehrmacht
Defiance
GWAR
Kreator
Destruction
Anvil Bitc*
Anihilated
Aggression
Razor
Gorguts
Agent Steel
Adrenicide
Laaz Rockit
Sadus
Nuclear Assault
Artillery
Satan
Vader
Vio-lence
Violator
Tankard
Whiplash
Cross Examination
Viking
Uncle Slam
Evildead
Amok
M.O.D
Obituary
Toxik
Sepultura
Wayne
Fastkill
Forbidden
Warbringer
Lich King
Evile
Dr. Livingdead
F.K.U
Cryptic Slaughter
Municipal Waste
Flotsam & Jetsam
Anvil
Toxic Holocaust
Merciless Death
Onslaught
Between The Buried And Me
August Burns Red
The Devil Wears Prada
Vanna
Protest the Hero
Oh Sleeper
Emarosa (This Your Way Out is their only good album)
A Hero A Fake
Sky Eats Airplane
Of Machines
Oceana
With Life In Mind
Texas In July
Parkway Drive
Whitechapel
Oceano
Killswitch Engage
Like Moths To Flames
An Open Ended Sky
For The Fallen Dreams
Call Me The Patriot
Amyst
Lower Definition
Alexisonfire
Miss May I
The Human Abstract
Architects
The Dillinger Escape Plan
As I Lay Dying
Bring Me The Horizon (Old stuff only)
I Killed The Prom Queen
Every Time I Die
Emmure
Carnifex
Glass Casket
From A Second Story Window
Discovery Of A Lifelong Error
Suicide Silence
Attack Attack!
The Color Morale
Misery Signals
Meshuggah
Periphery
Animals as Leaders
Saetia
Circle Takes The Square
Hot Cross
Soilwork
In Flames
Mastodon
Inhale/Exhale
Drop Dead Gorgeous
Here I Come Falling
Woe, Is Me
The Word Alive
Winds Of Plague
Of Mice and Men

Just to name a few. There are hundreds more.

There is more great music out now than ever before.

Radio and MTV = garbage.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 09:51:50 PM
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 09:54:26 PM
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 09:56:20 PM
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 09:59:23 PM
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 10:04:14 PM
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Post by: dj181 on May 12, 2011, 10:09:21 PM
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Post by: chunkramwell on May 12, 2011, 10:22:29 PM

Karen Carpenter achieved epic leans.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: dyslexic on May 12, 2011, 10:30:42 PM
"Quality of Music" is an interesting way of putting things.


Music theory within itself has never changed.


I think the loss is in the quality of qualified musicians and musicianship. Maybe throw in a little lack of creativity and a shitload of plagiarism...


Originality is hard to come by these days. Everyone is doing the same thing, but the irony lies in the fact that what makes a musician want to play in the first place is the desire to emulate.


Go figure.
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2011, 10:40:02 PM
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Post by: dj181 on May 12, 2011, 10:41:47 PM
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Post by: dj181 on May 12, 2011, 10:48:04 PM
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Post by: mass243 on May 12, 2011, 10:50:12 PM
Yeah, yeah...  ::)

Music, as bodybuilding, have decreased ever since days of Mozart  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Post by: chunkramwell on May 12, 2011, 10:55:20 PM
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Post by: Rami on May 12, 2011, 11:08:39 PM


Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: tu_holmes on May 12, 2011, 11:11:09 PM
20 years? Maybe 15 definitely... It's been going down hill since early 2000 easily.

Today it's all shit.

5 of the top 25 songs on iTunes yesterday were fucking remakes by the cast of glee... 20 of the songs were shit and there was maybe 1 ok track.

Music today is in the shitter.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: smoothasf on May 13, 2011, 12:34:20 AM
I thought this until literally a few months ago however its wrong.  Instead of 5 good artists releasing a song and another 5 rubbish releasing on in a week ones like the 80's..... we now have 200 songs released a week with 10 good ones. Too many songs saturatin the market is the problem.
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Post by: wes on May 13, 2011, 12:50:06 AM
In a word,todays music is shit.
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Post by: wes on May 13, 2011, 12:53:39 AM
I thought this until literally a few months ago however its wrong.  Instead of 5 good artists releasing a song and another 5 rubbish releasing on in a week ones like the 80's..... we now have 200 songs released a week with 10 good ones. Too many songs saturatin the market is the problem.
Too many talentless fucks trying to make a name and a dollar for themselves.


Kids who think it`s great,only think so because it`s all they`re used to.

Gimme` rock and soul from the 60`s-80`s (some 90`s too),anyday.

Blues is still pumping out good shit.
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Post by: dj181 on May 13, 2011, 01:00:36 AM
Here ya go wes ;D

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Post by: wes on May 13, 2011, 01:04:52 AM
Awesome tune bro!  :)
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Post by: #1 Klaus fan on May 13, 2011, 01:08:14 AM
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Post by: dj181 on May 13, 2011, 01:10:32 AM
 ;)

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Post by: breakmore on May 13, 2011, 02:03:26 AM
You guys don't know where too look for real music.

Or for awesome music clips for that matter.  :)
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Post by: gcb on May 13, 2011, 02:14:27 AM
I don't know i kind of like this, released not too long ago
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Post by: muscularny on May 13, 2011, 02:21:47 AM
what we can say for sure is that every generation age 35+ thinks that the new generation is no good with nothing, food is bad, music bad, movies bad, comedy not as good, bodybuilders not as good etc etc

congrats on acting like an old complaining fart

Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: gh15 on May 13, 2011, 02:28:37 AM
;)



now! thats! music!

generation nothingess exact opposite,,this is what music should sound like ,,this is what REAL artist should do ,,write music and perform well to the music he or she write... now day music is over,,simply no more material to work with and especialy with generation that feel entitled its just nothign to do ,,they are just not talented in addition to the music finaly gettng to a saturation point where no more good melodies can be written ,,its just the way it is ,,generation nothingness main main problem 

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: gh15 on May 13, 2011, 02:46:17 AM
what we can say for sure is that every generation age 35+ thinks that the new generation is no good with nothing, food is bad, music bad, movies bad, comedy not as good, bodybuilders not as good etc etc

congrats on acting like an old complaining fart



no friend,,your generation is just a failure of geneeration ,,its not you specifically ,,its the way you were raised ,,the media mainly,,the advancment of technology that got your emotions and ability to interact none existant,, remember friend if you lose your cell phone ..you are lost...if a whore lose her cell phoen now day she is absolitly lost! she cant pay her bills ,,she cant text her weekly boyfriend or baby daddy because many of them are mix interecial couple due to rap that took control over white society in americnaa mainly because of the female whores who were afraid from black and were infatuated with wether big cock feel better ,,the dominanace of black fellas took control over them ,,the idea of jungle like mentality ,,the hood,,the roughness of life and the no fear attitude took control over the typical americano white 17 year old easy to impress whore that step daddy abused for 3 years back in texas...so those girls via rap through the radio...got connected into black mentality...but not good black ...HOOD BLACK,,but this is going off the subject a bit,,

as i said no cell phone yuo cant do ntohing,,you are lost,,,i give you paper work to fill in case theere is electronic malfunction ...99% of your generation look at it like its aliens ,,they dont knwo what to do ,,they get stressed ,,,they start getting high blood pressure,,and just lose it,,

so its a generation thing ,,specifically to this generation ,,

in addition...the type of individuals who are in the front.... all up for money and nothing but money ,,from labron james who doesnt know how to play basketball he just grew in the hood and went with it ya know...he is no where near michael jordan or larry bird,,same for kobe briant that never went to college and just easy everything came his way ,,but alone hecant do shit,,he neds his all team to be top to do anything,,,from those fellas to britney spears who completely failed music by having no talent ,,by fuckin everything in site ,,by being narcotic addict,,by being attention whore,,and doing all that by not even writing ONE SINGLE SONG,,she cant play any instrument,,just have no talent ,,and never really became musician or artist of any kind,,what she did do is get her tits out and opened legs to the right people who got her where she got...the right people in the micky mouse club  when she waas 16 ....,,she is not even bad example after her came disasters like lindsey lohen ,,like kimberyly kardshin ,,like paris hilton ,,all from rich spoild familys all no talent all got there by suckin cock and or by money that granpa and daddy had ,,,nothing based on talent what so ever,,it all started mid 90s with jenny macarthy ofcourse....that to this day i blame her for her child autism for she was one of the most whorish girls in americana and drank her life away with tons of meds while taking cocks from all sides ,,,then it was carmen electra that made it pupular to sleep with black fellas such as denis  the basket ball player or whatever his name was ,,,with all them came snoop dog dog and even worse puff daddy dad who abolitly had no talent they had no talent in music they had nothing but hate and gang mentality and achieved their icon status due to scared society that again was led by females that were afraid from black hood man to a point of later on being influenced by them and loving them ,,it started with ewww this is disgusting ...to ummmm yum he project strength and got big cock in that pants its like getting the cock of my step dad... but now it wont be my step dad it will be a black man that everyone respect me around him and ill have all stolen bling and wil be treated like princess for 2 months till he get me prego and abuse me and then shoot me


you see friend,,,this is the generation you are part of...it is failed one,,

even in bodybuild,,its all projected...look at the fella behin that character mike arnold on the muscular develp board,,arrogant but not like gh15 that has knowledge and hands on personal experience in pro competition since i have don eit at the top and done it on me,,,the mike arnold tell shit over there that is first 50% not true and is a hear say and board discussion talk that was create on internet,,and second even when he tell something right ...it is always with entitlement feeling,,like he is better than you ....i get many pms with mike arnold in the subject,,i keep avoiding them but that fella is very very prime example of generation nothingess ...be very careful from his advices,, just avoid

this all generation of yours is sadly a failure in many many ways,,it just life and it will pass too ,,but it is not going to a good place,,

face book ... ::)

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: gh15 on May 13, 2011, 02:53:59 AM
lastly ,,go to yahoo page on computer....do it at any given time...go look at those little windows that say the news sunjecfts with pictures it is in the center of the page....just look at each one of them ,,,palin daughter new chin surgery plastic,,,who is she? didnt do nothing in her life but yet she is there,, to all kind of things you would never see back 20 years ago because they were considerd really really dumb to put in a main stream media and internet is main stream media now day ,,but take a look at what i tell you 99% of the shit there is garbage ,,,its liker failed people couldnt get a job as a serious journalist so they became internt jounalists,,

just failed generation

gh15 approved
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Post by: smoothasf on May 13, 2011, 03:04:18 AM
Gh15 awesome taste. Dire straits one of my favourite bands. Though brothers in arms is better than this.  You play guitar? Most guitarist appreciate mark knopfler
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Post by: muscularny on May 13, 2011, 03:17:09 AM
lastly ,,go to yahoo page on computer....do it at any given time...go look at those little windows that say the news sunjecfts with pictures it is in the center of the page....just look at each one of them ,,,palin daughter new chin surgery plastic,,,who is she? didnt do nothing in her life but yet she is there,, to all kind of things you would never see back 20 years ago because they were considerd really really dumb to put in a main stream media and internet is main stream media now day ,,but take a look at what i tell you 99% of the shit there is garbage ,,,its liker failed people couldnt get a job as a serious journalist so they became internt jounalists,,

just failed generation

gh15 approved

Again read what I wrote, every generation makes the same claims about the up and coming generation, remember, at one point in the late 40's early 50's people where making fun of people who need a phone in their house.

So again, I ask you to educate yourself and not be late to the party all the time by simply stating what you think and feel for the moment, (remember it took you years to appreciate tren, all along stating what you felt based on nothing other than thinking you know it all). Study history and you will see the yelling and screaming about the new up and coming generation has been going on as long as humans have been around.

Last but not least, nothing is going to change back to how things where, people can cry kick and scream on blogs and on youtube. Things will get worse in the eyes of the older people while the younger people will just trek along and get with whatever new sites, programs and whatever else is thrown at them.

Adapting is better then turning stale, so people stop crying and get with the program, because AT the end of the day you will anyway have to get with it, you might as well do it from the get go.

Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: wes on May 13, 2011, 03:20:40 AM
Wrong muscularny,todays music really really does blow dead dogs.
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Post by: Cliff Clavin on May 13, 2011, 03:30:47 AM
yes we can say that...

i feel sorry for the youth thinking todays music is relevant or lasting...90-95% is garbage in every way...
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Post by: DroppingPlates on May 13, 2011, 03:39:59 AM
Regarding "hit music" absolutely, but not regarding electronic music

Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: muscularny on May 13, 2011, 03:42:11 AM
Wrong muscularny,todays music really really does blow dead dogs.
in 30 years from now people will praise todays music and bash whatever the music then will be

in 30 years from now all presidents of the past 10-15 years will be hailed as heros regardless of what people say of them now. Ever talk to a old fuck about Regan? Go back and see the bickering that was going on while he was in power, if you dont you will think his approval rating during his presidency was 150%.

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Post by: Parker on May 13, 2011, 03:53:42 AM
You guys don't know where too look for real music.

Or for awesome music clips for that matter.  :)

I was laughing my ass off with this crazy vid...


Quality of music just like the quality of everything has gone down. The quality of people as wellhas gone downhill as well.

Since the 80s, Corp. have been ever increasingly greedy and tryig to find the next best thing, they will sign and market people or create a new artist---and the fact that everyone wants to be a star doesn't help the situation...
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Post by: Palpatine Q on May 13, 2011, 04:16:18 AM
LOL @ DJ 181  posting his little mixtape of songs he thinks are "gems",trying to impress us.

they are actually middle of the road crap that we have ALL heard before. your taste in music sucks
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Post by: Roger Bacon on May 13, 2011, 04:38:19 AM
Yes, and on my way back from the gym I was thinking...

If I get in a fucking wreck because I'm frantically searching for a song that's not annoying as piss I'm going to sue the fuck out of all these fucking radio stations.
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Post by: ManBearPig... on May 13, 2011, 04:45:03 AM
for every type of music you used to like or that you think is "awesomes and todayz suckz", there's a present day equivalent that's going to be just as praised.

for example:  the talking heads were awesome because they had a lot of awesome songs, but some of their songs just suck shit and are painful to listen to.

hell, if anything today's music is better because it is so competitive, and no one's buying records anymore, so live performance is just as, if not more important than it used to be.  the last concert i saw was kings of leon, and even though they have ZERO personality (didn't say hi or bye, never spoke between songs, just rifled off their set and left), their sound was spot on.  and you old farts all must have stories of horrible stage performances by bands you worshipped as a kid.  "back then", you were told that bands were awesome and you took it as granted.  now , if you have 5,000 bands that you are told are awesome, your bullshit detector will go off and you'll listen to what you like.

example: most of us can agree that neil young is a rock icon for many reasons; but his last performance i saw he was just walking around and playing his one note solos and letting the amp's feedback do most of the work.  time to hang it up stud, you ain't what you used to be.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on May 13, 2011, 04:47:56 AM
LOL @ DJ 181  posting his little mixtape of songs he thinks are "gems",trying to impress us.

they are actually middle of the road crap that we have ALL heard before. your taste in music sucks

Meltdown.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Griffith on May 13, 2011, 04:56:07 AM
The main difference is that before, you needed a really good voice.

Today that's not always important if you have the looks or image that can be promoted, or more importantly just a good team behind you, writing the songs, creating the music, creating your image and promoting you.
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Post by: Jussup on May 13, 2011, 04:59:08 AM
I share the overall impression of "music" going downhill, particularly when it comes to mainstream music.
Having said, awesome "subgenres" have evolved that didn't exist 20 years ago. For me, being a metal head  - with much appreciation for the "classics" like Priest, Maiden - "symphonic metal" is one of those new most awesome subgenres with bands like Therion, Haggard, Epica - true art.
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Post by: dj181 on May 13, 2011, 05:09:48 AM
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: gh15 on May 13, 2011, 05:13:16 AM
Again read what I wrote, every generation makes the same claims about the up and coming generation, remember, at one point in the late 40's early 50's people where making fun of people who need a phone in their house.

So again, I ask you to educate yourself and not be late to the party all the time by simply stating what you think and feel for the moment, (remember it took you years to appreciate tren, all along stating what you felt based on nothing other than thinking you know it all). Study history and you will see the yelling and screaming about the new up and coming generation has been going on as long as humans have been around.

Last but not least, nothing is going to change back to how things where, people can cry kick and scream on blogs and on youtube. Things will get worse in the eyes of the older people while the younger people will just trek along and get with whatever new sites, programs and whatever else is thrown at them.

Adapting is better then turning stale, so people stop crying and get with the program, because AT the end of the day you will anyway have to get with it, you might as well do it from the get go.



very very good posting,,i wish it was true...

see the problem is this generation is not like the others before it ,,the others before it had their problems and were nto accepted by the oldies to begin with ...but! every generation brought something to the world...this one brought nada..remember im talking about something you can feel touch emotional something that can touch your spirit ...this generation did nothing of the such ...absolitly nothing of the such

your post is very nice and i like it ,,but! i wish it was true i realy do ,,nothing to do with trenbolona,,i always knew it was amazing drug but i decided not to give it out at the beggining due to personal reasons same as with insulina...i just didnt want newbes to do stupid shit until i said fuck it ill say it just as it is ...and wotn hide a thing,,

now..  this generation not only did nothing but it also regressed our world backwords...yes we are more advanced in electronics...but we are very very seperated mentally and emotionally ,, not too many friends and im not talking buds here im talkin friends,,everyone to his own ,,just drive on the road and you will see how fucked up people became..alot diff than what it used to be alot diff,,

things like face book ruined familys ,,girls cheated guys cheated ,,people just want sex ,,all materialistic,,and no it wsnt always like this,,its been like this only last 15 years..since 1993-1994 it started to penetrate and 1995-96 its hen the cancer started to spread...  

all the advancement are not real advancments...they are just easy way to lve life for humans ,,,it doesnt advance us ,,we are still dot in space ,,only very emotionless money hungry islolated dot in space,,

its really hard to explain it on here ,,much easier in real life when you with me and i can show you this,,

why would a fella like palin daughter want to change her pretty face and cut her chin bone? why? because looks is only thing that matters,,

why rodrigez want to be bodybuilder and lie about natural status to achieve something? becauss look is only thing that matters

why is dj from this boarding going on the nerves of groink from this boarding and talking ebonics every single time? because thats what he knows from this fucked up generation of wanna be hood getto gangster shit,,he wasnt born like this ,,he was born into this generation!  thats the reason groink doesnt like him becaus of this way he talk not becauses of his physiqe...you fellas dont get it

why do you think brian williams is the joke of tv when tom brokow was the master of tv....? because people lost respect to the news....because they see unqualified whores on fox news that have no idea about news making and only thing how good their fake push up bra cleavage look on tv and if they mentioned their local dat football payer or hocky player that they about to marry and then divorce after 6 months of fucked up marriage since they didnt know eachother and didnt marry from love....

you see where im geeting at?

there are so many examples its not even funny,,if it was funny i would laugh but its very sad,,we are going backwords...yes electronicaly we advance yes you can post online in a second ,,but! the teens of today are emotionless creaturs,,they have crocodile tears,,they do not enjoy sex ,,they just cum! they do not thikn about anything but how to lose weight when it come to girls and how to fit in with generation nothingness that is all about how much more fake one can look,,it goes for guys too ...and they do hormones not for bodybuild but for look ,,,

it is way more complicated than just generational differences and old people thing this and that,,im young,,im young  in age and atleast 20 years younger in my mental age and spirit ,,im stuck at 19-20 so im young when it comes to  spirit so this is just how it is ,,i was there in the 80s and i am here in 2011 and 2011 is very very bad,,very very very bad,,really nothign to write home about ...about anything

and i garentee you this generation will go down as the worst generation in history

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Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: gh15 on May 13, 2011, 05:16:13 AM
LOL @ a drug dealer steroid guru gimmick being all high and mighty branding the entire generation after him as if he himself is a huge success and we should all follow his example

lol at the retard that thought he was 14% when he was 9-10....

you lol for many reasons in life,,

i state truth and it sometimes hurts ,,but you are part of this generation fo losers that even when i told you the truth about how low bodyfat you were you still didnt think you were less than 14% ,,why? because your generation is so fucked ,,so plastic surgery fucked,, so hormonal fucked,,so look fucked that you really only look at perfect air brush magazine as reality and really dont think they are decent unless they look like the magazine to the t ....see sarah palinfucked up daughter and any other americano whore around ,,most of them atleast

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Post by: oldtimer1 on May 13, 2011, 05:17:43 AM
Yes the quality has gone down hill.  Music is engineered in the studio.  A real band can't reproduce it live.  That's why all these pop stars sing with a "band" that's playing along to tracks.  They could never sing live without their voice auto tuned adjusted with a reverb.  When you see the current pop stars sing it is lip synced to about 80% of the song.  

Real music coming from a real band sounds fantastic but people are so use to factory engineered music that it sounds bad to them.  Even wedding bands are playing to recorded tracks.  The drums are real and the singing.  Everything else is mainly for show.

Where are the new rock bands today?  They are few and hard to find.  In the 60's, 70's and part of the 80's there were still exciting rock bands breaking on the scene.  Now fast forward to 2000's they are practically non existent.

When I go to hear live music now I go to see a Jazz icon like David Sanborn.  All of the music is live and from real muscians.  I wouldn't pay a penny to see someone like Usher lip sych to factory recorded engineered band playing.

I will say one thing about American Idol love the show or hate it.  It shows kids that really can sing.  The pop stars of today would be embarrashed to sing next to one of these kids.  Could you imagine a current pop star singing live with just an acoustic guitar?  I bet  two out of the current 25 pop stars could do that.
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Post by: gh15 on May 13, 2011, 05:20:20 AM
The main difference is that before, you needed a really good voice.

Today that's not always important if you have the looks or image that can be promoted, or more importantly just a good team behind you, writing the songs, creating the music, creating your image and promoting you.

thats why....nothign is memorable,,thats why song doesnt stay on top long,,thats why i cant name even one song of puff dady beside his remake of every breath you take which is not his....and wass horrible by the way...thats why i cant name any song of anyone now day ,,and trust me i follow and try to follow ,,its just garbage ,,

you got 1 thats is decent on 1000 that are horrid!  ,,pink is decent,,she can write and play and write decent songs,,but in the 80s she wouldnt even make top 10,,still she is ok for this generation ,,she got talent,,not even close to the masterpiecs of the past but for this generation its ok

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Post by: gh15 on May 13, 2011, 05:21:17 AM
hahaha meltdown

FYI I said 11% not 14, and I dont give a fuck about palin or magazines or plastic surgery, you're talking random gibberish and I give it as much weight as I give a fly

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thats the problem ,,you dont know right from left,,you are delusional,,the exact definition of one! part of generation nothingness,,thats just how it is

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Post by: gh15 on May 13, 2011, 05:24:49 AM
I know right from left, I am not delusional in any way shape of form. You are talking out of your ass and expect me to be bothered because you have a "cult following" here, rofl

I hope that one day, I can be a former thong wearing oiled up drug dealing steroid addict like you

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lol,, i dont expect youi to be bothered thats the thing!!,, this generation is not bothered by anything lol thats the exact problem lol dont you get it

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Post by: _bruce_ on May 13, 2011, 05:41:30 AM
Music is dying!
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Post by: Ex Coelis on May 13, 2011, 05:43:57 AM
a lot of overweight old men lamenting their growing irrelevance to the world
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Post by: dj181 on May 13, 2011, 05:50:51 AM
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on May 13, 2011, 05:58:58 AM
for every type of music you used to like or that you think is "awesomes and todayz suckz", there's a present day equivalent that's going to be just as praised.

for example:  the talking heads were awesome because they had a lot of awesome songs, but some of their songs just suck shit and are painful to listen to.

hell, if anything today's music is better because it is so competitive, and no one's buying records anymore, so live performance is just as, if not more important than it used to be.  the last concert i saw was kings of leon, and even though they have ZERO personality (didn't say hi or bye, never spoke between songs, just rifled off their set and left), their sound was spot on.  and you old farts all must have stories of horrible stage performances by bands you worshipped as a kid.  "back then", you were told that bands were awesome and you took it as granted.  now , if you have 5,000 bands that you are told are awesome, your bullshit detector will go off and you'll listen to what you like.

example: most of us can agree that neil young is a rock icon for many reasons; but his last performance i saw he was just walking around and playing his one note solos and letting the amp's feedback do most of the work.  time to hang it up stud, you ain't what you used to be.

Good post. Most here don't seem to get that the music industry is dead, but music is thriving. The internet killed off the corporations and corporate music, but saved music itself by letting millions of musicians have a voice that would have until now, remained virtually unheard. The quality of musicians and musicianship out there is incredible. Today's musicians can get their music out to a large number of listeners without having to have corporate backing.

The net is the place to find quality music, period. Live shows have increased a thousandfold as that is how musicians currently make their living. Pop is, and always will be garbage. It's dumbed down music for women, mostly.

I'm one of the 'old farts' who happens to be very active in the current music scene. Like it or not, the music industry has evolved due to file sharing and the ease of access of new music. I for one, speaking as a working musician, think  that's a good thing.
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Post by: gh15 on May 13, 2011, 06:06:41 AM
Good post. Most here don't seem to get that the music industry is dead, but music is thriving. The internet killed off the corporations and corporate music, but saved music itself by letting millions of musicians have a voice that would have until now, remained virtually unheard. The quality of musicians and musicianship out there is incredible. Today's musicians can get their music out to a large number of listeners without having to have corporate backing.

The net is the place to find quality music, period. Live shows have increased a thousandfold as that is how musicians currently make their living. Pop is, and always will be garbage. It's dumbed down music for women, mostly.

I'm one of the 'old farts' who happens to be very active in the current music scene. Like it or not, the music industry has evolved due to file sharing and the ease of access of new music. I for one, speaking as a working musician, think  that's a good thing.


you know why live shows increased? because no one make records anymore lol ,,its waste no one buy it ,,the all record busines changed to gettign money from some moron of generation nothingess listen to you for 24 second before he get distructed by his weekly girl changing the chanel of tv to jersy licous or something,, people dont buy music ,,very very rare are the ones hwo buy cds,,there are some but minority and also not on regular basis ,, thats why live show because thats the only way to make money now day ,,since no one make record and no one has new material that is worth something,,every one rerun what they had before in a live show to make money becausee generation nothingess do like its beers and booz and they do like live shows because whores are there and its hook up place or place to go with the whore so later you come and nail her in the car after the live show ...if you listen to those shows though,,majority of the new bands cant even play ,,they just dont play well together ,,threy know 3 chords ,,they just having a show lol

what happened to music is shamful and disgusting ,,
ofcourse there is always diamonds among the shit but thsoe diamonds are very very rare now day and they are in a silent over kill minority ,,and even they dont have anymore music to play with ,,

music is dyin g,,been dying 15 years ,,final death will happen within 10 years ,,all will be remake like today only to a larger degree,,music is truly on the verge of death,,it alwys will be around...but it will be like the ring on the door ,,the dorr bell  ,,just something you walk around and listen to ,,,kinda like you hear the song friday im inlove in fridays restaurants all the time,,thats what music will become ,,elevator crap...and friday im inlove is great song BUT i jsut gave example for what music will become as in approach ,,elevator  attention type


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Post by: YngiweRhoads on May 13, 2011, 06:12:26 AM

you know why live shows increased? because no one make records anymore lol ,,its waste no one buy it ,,the all record busines changed to gettign money from some moron of generation nothingess listen to you for 24 second before he get distructed by his weekly girl changing the chanel of tv to jersy licous or something,, people dont buy music ,,very very rare are the ones hwo buy cds,,there are some but minority and also not on regular basis ,, thats why live show because thats the only way to make money now day ,,since no one make record and no one has new material that is worth something,,every one rerun what they had before in a live show to make money becausee generation nothingess do like its beers and booz and they do like live shows because whores are there and its hook up place or place to go with the whore so later you come and nail her in the car after the live show ...if you listen to those shows though,,majority of the new bands cant even play ,,they just dont play well together ,,threy know 3 chords ,,they just having a show lol

what happened to music is shamful and disgusting ,,
ofcourse there is always diamonds among the shit but thsoe diamonds are very very rare now day and they are in a silent over kill minority ,,and even they dont have anymore music to play with ,,

music is dyin g,,been dying 15 years ,,final death will happen within 10 years ,,all will be remake like today only to a larger degree,,music is truly on the verge of death,,it alwys will be around...but it will be like the ring on the door ,,the dorr bell  ,,just something you walk around and listen to ,,,kinda like you hear the song friday im inlove in fridays restaurants all the time,,thats what music will become ,,elevator crap...and friday im inlove is great song BUT i jsut gave example for what music will become as in approach ,,elevator  attention type


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Bullshit. You're on the money about touring to make a living but the rest of your post implies you don't attend many live shows and have no idea of the great music that's out there these days.

Now we have to work like everyone else, instead of sitting back and selling a bunch of records we have to play live to make a living. Wah wah wah.

The era of the mega band is over. The era of the working musician is here.
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Post by: Tom on May 13, 2011, 07:07:13 AM
the big money nowadays at least for the major superstars isn't record/dvd sales, it's all about concerts and tours.

every generation has good music and crap music, i just hate now that the standard "pop" music on radio stations is either loud screaming and not even singing ( what happened to just standing there and singing and telling a story?) or it's "so called catchy hooks/beat" where it all sounds the same and you can't make out the words!
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on May 13, 2011, 07:30:07 AM
the big money nowadays at least for the major superstars isn't record/dvd sales, it's all about concerts and tours.

every generation has good music and crap music, i just hate now that the standard "pop" music on radio stations is either loud screaming and not even singing ( what happened to just standing there and singing and telling a story?) or it's "so called catchy hooks/beat" where it all sounds the same and you can't make out the words!


Turn off the radio. Get yourself satellite radio at the very least.





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Post by: ManBearPig... on May 13, 2011, 09:51:27 AM
Bullshit. You're on the money about touring to make a living but the rest of your post implies you don't attend many live shows and have no idea of the great music that's out there these days.

Now we have to work like everyone else, instead of sitting back and selling a bunch of records we have to play live to make a living. Wah wah wah.

The era of the mega band is over. The era of the working musician is here.


Yes, thanks for phrasing what i meant to say.  The days of Kirk Hammett being picked up by a jet so he can go play off key for 2 hours for $100,000 are over, but it's not necessarily a bad thing.

The working musician can still make a very handsome living and live in a mansion and have whores do coke off his penis, he'll just have to work harder for it and put out better product.

I mean jesus, look at some of that 80's glam rock bullshit that was put out.  I was just reading at another forum that there were a handful of studio musicians that recorded so many of those glam rock tracks, either due to lack of talent or "stars" being too fucked up to show up to the studio, but never got credit for it.

At least now when i see someone live, i know it's them playing it.

yes gh15, like most others on here, get panic attacks at the mere thought of comingling with normal society at concert venues, so they'll just convince themselves the music sucks and it's not worth going out there and listening to it.

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Post by: Palpatine Q on May 13, 2011, 10:15:50 AM
The problem with music nowadays is that it has no value to the big corporations...people steal it more then they buy it.

so if there is no money to be made developing new artists, the major labels don't dump any money into young bands any more, and the industry suffers...and that's why you have to look to Indie labels for the good stuff these days. Major labels used to have hundreds of a+r guys out there looking for the next big thing, those budgets have been slashed, if not eliminated altogether.
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Post by: ManBearPig... on May 13, 2011, 11:56:20 AM
The problem with music nowadays is that it has no value to the big corporations...people steal it more then they buy it.

so if there is no money to be made developing new artists, the major labels don't dump any money into young bands any more, and the industry suffers...and that's why you have to look to Indie labels for the good stuff these days. Major labels used to have hundreds of a+r guys out there looking for the next big thing, those budgets have been slashed, if not eliminated altogether.

exactly, which is great for us (the consumer / music fan) and mostly shitty for the stars / managers.
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Post by: jedibrat on May 13, 2011, 12:00:32 PM
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Post by: FREAKgeek on May 13, 2011, 01:00:32 PM
This can mean so many things I know but lets say American music in general including all popular genres.  

I guess one could say the major reason is today's music industry equates a good song as being a good beat and a catchy hook.

Oh yeah....in before GH15.

Definitely. It's very hard to be good and original.
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 13, 2011, 02:19:56 PM
the major labels don't dump any money into young bands any more, and the industry suffers...and that's why you have to look to Indie labels for the good stuff these days.

There is a lot of great music made still and most of it is in the so-called indie scene.

The lust for money ruins everything artistic eventually. Instead of the artist focusing on his art he is pressured, either by himself or by the labels, to MAKE MONEY as first priority.  The goal is not the art itself but making money. What sells best and easiest to a wide audience? "Fast food". Easily palatable crap.

Examples everyone knows: Metallica. Young hungry guys making good metal. Now let's sell this shit to an even wider audience to make big bucks and the result is... well, complete garbage.
Michael Jackson during the Thriller days was magnificent. But huge success like this is still not enough and he releases a huge amont of garbage. Listen to "Black or white". LOL, with the shitty rap in the middle. Dirty Diana, Beat It, etc was fantastic pop music.
There are so many artists who should have quit decades ago.

Jennifer Lopez and her "macarena" song? My god. ::) The Whip my hair song  by Will Smith kid, don't think I ever heard worse shit.  :D

Money = root of all evil  :D

Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 13, 2011, 07:57:25 PM

Pure Garbage.  What is it with you people that like this horrible, discordant nonsense?
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Post by: jaejonna on May 13, 2011, 08:03:30 PM

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Post by: Captain Equipoise on May 13, 2011, 08:07:00 PM
Yes, thanks for phrasing what i meant to say.  The days of Kirk Hammett being picked up by a jet so he can go play off key for 2 hours for $100,000 are over, but it's not necessarily a bad thing.

The working musician can still make a very handsome living and live in a mansion and have whores do coke off his penis, he'll just have to work harder for it and put out better product.

I mean jesus, look at some of that 80's glam rock bullshit that was put out.  I was just reading at another forum that there were a handful of studio musicians that recorded so many of those glam rock tracks, either due to lack of talent or "stars" being too fucked up to show up to the studio, but never got credit for it.

At least now when i see someone live, i know it's them playing it.

yes gh15, like most others on here, get panic attacks at the mere thought of comingling with normal society at concert venues, so they'll just convince themselves the music sucks and it's not worth going out there and listening to it.



Can you believe that atonal fucker won every  major guitarist poll since 1988 , lol somehow hamster always got no.1 even though guys like Friedman, Skolnick , Petrucci and Romeo ran circles around him, it's funny hearing him talk about his inspirations for his solo's he's never ventured out of pentatonic E minor, add a wah and you have a hammet-esque solo full of cheese.
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 13, 2011, 08:07:55 PM
I don't know i kind of like this, released not too long ago

Music for dunderheads.  You can get the same effect and enjoyment by listening to a construction crew fixing potholes on the roadside.
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 13, 2011, 08:12:10 PM
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 13, 2011, 08:18:59 PM
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Post by: Palpatine Q on May 13, 2011, 08:20:01 PM
Can you believe that atonal fucker won every  major guitarist poll since 1988 , lol somehow hamster always got no.1 even though guys like Friedman, Skolnick , Petrucci and Romeo ran circles around him, it's funny hearing him talk about his inspirations for his solo's he's never ventured out of pentatonic E minor, add a wah and you have a hammet-esque solo full of cheese.


I'm not a guitarist but i have a pretty good ear.

Kirk Hammet is a hack....I never got what the big deal about Metallica was in general.  stiff, boring, unimaginative garbage
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 13, 2011, 08:21:46 PM
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 13, 2011, 08:33:51 PM
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 13, 2011, 08:44:05 PM
Some of you were talking about being "working musicians" and about how today you have to "work" for your money in the music industry. HA HA HA

Since when has any musician worked as hard as this in a Live performance:

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Post by: The True Adonis on May 13, 2011, 09:56:06 PM
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Post by: Doug_Steele on May 13, 2011, 09:56:31 PM
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Post by: jedibrat on May 13, 2011, 11:20:07 PM
Pure Garbage.  What is it with you people that like this horrible, discordant nonsense?

Everything else has been done. This is the only place left to go.
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Post by: calfzilla on March 25, 2017, 10:13:59 PM
I couple songs that makes me realize how shit today's music is.


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Post by: calfzilla on March 25, 2017, 10:16:18 PM
..and

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Post by: HTexan on March 25, 2017, 11:11:49 PM
This can mean so many things I know but lets say American music in general including all popular genres.  

I guess one could say the major reason is today's music industry equates a good song as being a good beat and a catchy hook.

Oh yeah....in before GH15.
You can chart the birth and use of auto tune and the decline of music on the same graph.
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Post by: Core on March 26, 2017, 02:52:23 AM
Music has greatly evolved in the last twenty or so years. Pop music is laughable these day bs untalented to say the least. It is that and it is also degenerate in nature encouraging all kinds of loathsome behaviour. Look to underground artists to find the real talent in today's musical world. I've been listening to a ton of 'film trailer' type artists and the production is fantastic on all of these tracks. Check out Ivan Torrent' album Reverie to see what I mean. Fucking amazing soaring ascendant music that will hit you hard. This is just one example. There are a ton of great electronic artists out there that convey feelings and thoughts with mere sound itself. The talent never went away in music, it just changed where it was being applied I say
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Post by: Hack Benchers on March 26, 2017, 03:37:02 AM
You are living in the past. If you only listen to mainstream music you are missing the real music / good stuff. Look up ANBU NEVLO on youtube.
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Post by: DroppingPlates on March 26, 2017, 03:44:55 AM
You are living in the past. If you only listen to mainstream music you are missing the real music / good stuff. Look up ANBU NEVLO on youtube.

What the cluster fuck :-X

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Post by: Hack Benchers on March 26, 2017, 07:24:21 AM
What the cluster fuck :-X



There yiu go, thats what I am talking about  8)
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Post by: johnnynoname on March 26, 2017, 07:26:58 AM
the music didn't get worse

we all just got older

it's a cycle that will continue to repeat itself


in closing, the OP is the N-word
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Post by: DroppingPlates on March 26, 2017, 07:31:08 AM
There yiu go, thats what I am talking about  8)

So a bunch of low life druggies, rapping about their depressed inner world represents 'quality music'? 
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Post by: johnnynoname on March 26, 2017, 07:32:25 AM
the "-er" one btw

...not the "-a" one
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Post by: falco on March 26, 2017, 08:00:05 AM
[youtube]http://youtu.be/Xz8eu-KEaDI/youtube]
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Post by: DroppingPlates on March 26, 2017, 08:04:01 AM


There you go
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Post by: falco on March 26, 2017, 08:08:24 AM
Thanks. Pig fingers and smart phones dont mix.
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Post by: DroppingPlates on March 26, 2017, 08:14:07 AM
Thanks. Pig fingers and smart phones dont mix.

You're welcome, I'm pretty sure that this Casanova is pounding quality Portuguese brunettes on a day-lee-basis
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Post by: dj181 on March 26, 2017, 08:30:09 AM
Well, make a wish, baby
And I will make it come true

Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: HTexan on March 26, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
the music didn't get worse

we all just got older
No many genres of music have got worst. Auto tune makes everything sound the same and too prefect and lifeless. Plus the current music industry, streaming and internet consumption force a devaluation in music quality. Where quickness and fads are more important then art and substance.
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Post by: Hack Benchers on March 26, 2017, 10:57:38 AM
So a bunch of low life druggies, rapping about their depressed inner world represents 'quality music'? 

Settle down nancy dont get your pantys in a bunch. Got go get with the times bro! Dont hate, appriciate  8)
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Post by: DroppingPlates on March 26, 2017, 11:19:49 AM
Settle down nancy dont get your pantys in a bunch. Got go get with the times bro! Dont hate, appriciate  8)

Nice one liner, from which movie was that?
There's* plenty of good stuff these days, but there's nothing to appreciate about these wannabe thugs.






* but not on the gaystream media
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Post by: Pray_4_War on March 26, 2017, 11:20:44 AM
Music today is unquestionably worse that it was in past years.  No heart, no soul, almost everything is an imitation or re-tread of something else.  

The rappers don't even rap anymore, they just fucking talk.  Everything sucks.
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Post by: Kwon on March 26, 2017, 11:58:37 AM
What the cluster fuck :-X



Studio "sessie" of Peas
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Hack Benchers on March 26, 2017, 12:46:51 PM
Nice one liner, from which movie was that?
There's* plenty of good stuff these days, but there's nothing to appreciate about these wannabe thugs.

* but not on the gaystream media

Not a movie. Got it from GET BIG.
Music is like art, were beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Just watched Boer Zoekt Vrouw (farmer needs a wife). Thats quality TV in my eyes right there. Top notch TV for me.
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Post by: HTexan on March 26, 2017, 12:49:19 PM
Music today is unquestionably worse that it was in past years.  No heart, no soul, almost everything is an imitation or re-tread of something else.  

The rappers don't even rap anymore, they just fucking talk.  Everything sucks.
This. When did rap become spoken word?
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Post by: DroppingPlates on March 26, 2017, 12:52:47 PM
Not a movie. Got it from GET BIG.
Music is like art, were beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Just watched Boer Zoekt Vrouw (farmer needs a wife). Thats quality TV in my eyes right there. Top notch TV for me.

It's personal taste, but it kinda annoying that I hear crap 'music' most of the time when I visit public places.
Well, I ditched the TV many years ago, so don't let me start about that :-\
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Post by: Hack Benchers on March 26, 2017, 01:02:05 PM
It's personal taste, but it kinda annoying that I hear crap 'music' most of the time when I visit public places.
Well, I ditched the TV many years ago, so don't let me start about that :-\

I got a solution. Avoid public places. Dont leave the house, dont interact with anyone..You will have no frustrations  ;D
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Post by: DroppingPlates on March 26, 2017, 01:05:52 PM
I got a solution. Avoid public places. Dont leave the house, dont interact with anyone..You will have no frustrations  ;D

Work, supermarket, gym, etc... Man, if I were a millionaire...
Plenty of decent folks left, but you've got to be selective in this fucked up society...
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Post by: oldtimer1 on March 26, 2017, 01:07:52 PM
Listening to the current hits channel on satellite radio it's become obvious to me the music is coming out of one or two production companies. It all has the same 10 feels. Many of the artists I suspect are Disney owned. In the past a band created a song in a basement or garage then polished it in a recording studio. Now the artist is picked with no original work and their music is a complete team production including auto tune vocals. The music has no real soul because it's made with a computer. No one is recording a bass, drum, guitar and others instruments. It comes out a computer program. Many of the artists can't sing live because it would be a disaster.
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Post by: Hack Benchers on March 26, 2017, 01:13:33 PM
Work, supermarket, gym, etc... Man, if I were a millionaire...
Plenty of decent folks left, but you've got to be selective in this fucked up society...

Not at all bro its a great world out there just go and enjoy it.
You are stuck in bit of negativity (I have been there many moons ago) it seems.
This way of thinking is (cock) blocking your goals..
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Post by: mazrim on March 26, 2017, 01:16:57 PM
Didn't read the whole thread but I don't think it has. Problem is what is played on the radio is the same thing over and over again and it often isn't even the best song on that particular album so that is odd to me.

I imagine 20 years ago the same question was asked.

There are very good singers/groups today and very bad ones as it has been throughout time. I hate 80's music myself.
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Post by: DroppingPlates on March 26, 2017, 01:19:10 PM
Not at all bro its a great world out there just go and enjoy it.
You are stuck in bit of negativity (I have been there many moons ago) it seems.
This way of thinking is (cock) blocking your goals..

It's a great world for those who prefer to deny the reality. 'Negativity' is nothing more than a subjective judgement. Like I just said, there are still plenty of decent folks, but that's not the whole story.
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Post by: DroppingPlates on March 26, 2017, 02:00:15 PM
Run into this problem when driving in the car, as well as finding music to train to. It all sounds stupid and silly now. The stuff i listened to 10yrs ago is embarrassing now. Doesnt matter if its rap or rock, the lyrics are foolish.

Rappers rapping about "bustin guns" & expensive cars when you realize the guys who've actually fired a weapon, dont sing about it... And the guys rapping about a rolls royce ghost, dont own a ghost and if they drive one, its a rental... Not to mention the guy in a 2012 honda accord rapping along to the lyrics with a $99 sub/amp combo he bought from Fry's wearing a $45 sterling silver chain and cz-"encrusted" "jesus- piece" (prolly not even cz's), and giant princess-cut glass studs in their ears that, if they were real, would cost $12k each (6ct stud, even with dirty diamond @ $2k/ct would be $12k ffs).

And "rockers", even then hardcore tough-guys, wearing tight jeans, giant nickle skull rings, long hair, eye-liner, nail polish.... Grown men singing (which is feminine enough) about being heartbroken/a cowboy/a lone wolf/not somebody to mess with/etc... Its all just silly sounding

While driving ive been listening to talk radio for years now.

Just think about how silly & feminine it is to decide "im gonna say some clever rhyming words and im gonna aingnthem in a melody".

Which station? We used to have a station like that over here with literally that name. It was a lack of advertisers that made them ran out of business after 2-3 years..
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Post by: FREAKgeek on March 26, 2017, 02:19:33 PM
Run into this problem when driving in the car, as well as finding music to train to. It all sounds stupid and silly now. The stuff i listened to 10yrs ago is embarrassing now. Doesnt matter if its rap or rock, the lyrics are foolish.

Rappers rapping about "bustin guns" & expensive cars when you realize the guys who've actually fired a weapon, dont sing about it... And the guys rapping about a rolls royce ghost, dont own a ghost and if they drive one, its a rental... Not to mention the guy in a 2012 honda accord rapping along to the lyrics with a $99 sub/amp combo he bought from Fry's wearing a $45 sterling silver chain and cz-"encrusted" "jesus- piece" (prolly not even cz's), and giant princess-cut glass studs in their ears that, if they were real, would cost $12k each (6ct stud, even with dirty diamond @ $2k/ct would be $12k ffs).

And "rockers", even then hardcore tough-guys, wearing tight jeans, giant nickle skull rings, long hair, eye-liner, nail polish.... Grown men singing (which is feminine enough) about being heartbroken/a cowboy/a lone wolf/not somebody to mess with/etc... Its all just silly sounding

While driving ive been listening to talk radio for years now.

Just think about how silly & feminine it is to decide "im gonna say some clever rhyming words and im gonna aingnthem in a melody".

Similar experiences.

You're getting older. I'm Listening to too much Hannity and Limbaugh too.

Need testosterone :)
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Post by: Yamcha on March 26, 2017, 02:34:58 PM
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on March 26, 2017, 09:01:07 PM
i am a hard rock dude but not really into the new hard rock stuff. I like atreyu as far of recent bands, but over the last few years ive moved onto punk rock. not new punk stuff but just opened a window for me.

Rancid, misfits, tiger army, horrorpops, social distortion etc
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Post by: JBGRAY on March 26, 2017, 09:58:25 PM
Music today is great. The popular shit in the 90's and 80's was bad too.
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Post by: FREAKgeek on March 27, 2017, 04:32:59 AM

Problem i have with the conservative radio/tv folks isnt with what they say, its how they say it. Like Oreily and Hannity, theyre as pompous and smug as rachel madcow, though hannity isnt near as bad as oreily

Michael Savage is as arrogant as it gets, he can't go 10 min without patting himself on the back - the number of listeners he has, his book sales, how bright he is,  :P. Mark Levin is getting the same way. I used to like his show years back but now he's just angry all the time.
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Post by: Hack Benchers on March 27, 2017, 06:23:16 AM
It's a great world for those who prefer to deny the reality. 'Negativity' is nothing more than a subjective judgement. Like I just said, there are still plenty of decent folks, but that's not the whole story.
Fair enough. Please carry on.
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Post by: ilalin on March 27, 2017, 02:03:09 PM
I actually agree with GH15, whoever the fuck he is...today in the Western world children are born and raised with a notion that society and the world owes you, just like a child from a single parent. Senses are so saturated that feelings are brought to the lowest level, violence in the media is rampant but to see or spell titty in a forum is fcken forbidden.
Everything needs to be done with empathy for each other, they  post, while fcking you in the ass and taking your hard earned $$$. For kids nowadays that's normal, they'll slaughter you for money, just like Anthony Robbins slaughters pour soul's wallets with his nonsense programs. Majority of music is over compressed and hard to listen to, literally hard on your ears, Google compression wars.
Of course, there is talent everywhere, but there is also so much garbage that you have to be informed properly in order to find it. But you cannot, because if you open up a page thousands of links pop by and you get saturated. They want you to do that and at the same time serve personalized ads so you spend your fckn $$$ unnecessarily. Brainwashed slaves. Only a good, rough to the balls conflict (war) will cleanse this planet.
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Post by: Fortress on March 27, 2017, 07:39:20 PM
I'm a hard rock/metal head.

Been since 1982.

Have never wavered, lost interest or stopped buying music.

As of this week, I have over 25 CDs on order through various online sources. Two arrived today.

My collection is several-thousand deep. One whole room in my condo. Hell, my music DVD collection is over one thousand units.

There is always high quality music being written, recorded and performed.

A majority of people are/were never into music in the first place. Not really.
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Post by: FREAKgeek on March 28, 2017, 06:39:47 AM
I'm a hard rock/metal head.

Been since 1982.

Have never wavered, lost interest or stopped buying music.

As of this week, I have over 25 CDs on order through various online sources. Two arrived today.

My collection is several-thousand deep. One whole room in my condo. Hell, my music DVD collection is over one thousand units.

There is always high quality music being written, recorded and performed.

A majority of people are/were never into music in the first place. Not really.

That's an impressive collection. Do you abhor the whole mp3 scene?

I like it cause I tend to get lazy with CDs, they always manage to stay out of their sleeves and collect stacks and get scratched. You can't beat it for the car too.

But then there's the whole collector's side to it, were you get an album with its art and what not. I sold most of my CDs when I was younger. I got rid of the cardboard too back when they used to have them in cardboard, regret it.
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Post by: Fortress on March 28, 2017, 05:02:34 PM
That's an impressive collection. Do you abhor the whole mp3 scene?

I like it cause I tend to get lazy with CDs, they always manage to stay out of their sleeves and collect stacks and get scratched. You can't beat it for the car too.

But then there's the whole collector's side to it, were you get an album with its art and what not. I sold most of my CDs when I was younger. I got rid of the cardboard too back when they used to have them in cardboard, regret it.


I dislike digital downloads only so much as the technology has (more easily) allowed thieves to steal and, in doing, collapsed the industry. Now the industry deserves a lot of the suffering it's now experiencing, yes, but there has to be a balance.

I am a collector (obviously) and just cannot see computer files as being anywhere near as satisfying and badass.

A physical format, with all the trimmings, is the rock that makes Fortress roll.

However, if someone prefers BUYING a download, more power to him.

But stealing another's work is wrong, wrong, wrong.

My collection brings me great joy.

And I NEVER leave my home without a CD for my Jeep. Never. Ever.
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Post by: HTexan on March 28, 2017, 07:57:50 PM
I dislike digital downloads only so much as the technology has (more easily) allowed thieves to steal and, in doing, collapsed the industry. Now the industry deserves a lot of the suffering it's now experiencing, yes, but there has to be a balance.

I am a collector (obviously) and just cannot see computer files as being anywhere near as satisfying and badass.

A physical format, with all the trimmings, is the rock that makes Fortress roll.

However, if someone prefers BUYING a download, more power to him.

But stealing another's work is wrong, wrong, wrong.

My collection brings me great joy.

And I NEVER leave my home without a CD for my Jeep. Never. Ever.
CDs suck. Lossless audio is the only way to go or streaming if listening from headphones.
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Post by: Fortress on March 28, 2017, 07:59:34 PM
CDs suck. Lossless audio is the only way to go or streaming if listening from headphones.

Thanks for that.  ::)
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Post by: HTexan on March 28, 2017, 08:02:18 PM
Thanks for that.  ::)
You're welcome. Stop being a hipster douche and get lossless files already.  ;)
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Post by: ESFitness on March 28, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
I havent paid for music since 2000 when i bought PaulnOakenfold Tranceport..... And i dont imagine ill ever pay for music again in my life. Even if i had $30mil in the bank id still be downloading the shit.
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Post by: The Ugly on March 28, 2017, 08:34:42 PM
You're welcome. Stop being a hipster douche and get lossless files already.  ;)

CDs were here long before hipsters. I hate the scratching/skipping, but I'm all CD, too. But I got two of those envelope storage things in my car. Never drive anywhere without 80+ discs.
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Post by: Notomorrow on March 28, 2017, 08:58:07 PM
Hard rock...even some pop rock was a celebration of the alpha male. People think rap shit is alpha but if you have to scowl and wear a bunch of gold chains to look tough and important...its PURE beta male. Notice how they all rap about being up in some vip club...getting noticed...getting laid...this is all beta. If ya have to prove it...you're beta.

Real rock stars grew their hair long...a typically feminine trait...to show that they are so fucking alpha they can dress and look however they want and EVERYONE still knows they are the man.

The decline of music coincides with the decline of the American man.

Its why most young girls worship classic rock...go to any young female...she's into Zepplin....Hendricks and Nirvana. She could give a shit about the beta males like Justin Bieber being thrown at her.

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Post by: Fortress on March 28, 2017, 09:10:40 PM
I havent paid for music since 2000 when i bought PaulnOakenfold Tranceport..... And i dont imagine ill ever pay for music again in my life. Even if i had $30mil in the bank id still be downloading the shit.

Hopefully you'll do some intensive work for someone at some point and that someone will tell you he simply doesn't wanna pay you for it.
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Post by: The Ugly on March 28, 2017, 09:13:49 PM
I remember getting into my car one sunday morning back in 2000 and when i went to turn the radio up, there was no head-unit lol. (they got everything. Head unit, eq, capacitor, amps, 2 JL W7's... At least they disconnected everything and didnt rip anything out. And they left the remote!)

Anyways..... The worst part of it all was realizing they took my cd cases. Well over 150 cds gone. Lots of $30 imported singles from europe and Japan. Lots of white-label records (house and trance.."techno" stuff) that were ripped and burned to cdr that couldnt be replaced. Think i estimated the loss on those cds alone was $6k.

I got ya one-upped: '88 or so, fuckers stole the car and stripped EVERYTHING. Only thing they didn't take was my Rod Stewart tickets (@ LA Forum). Insult to injury, they MFed my music.
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Post by: Fortress on March 28, 2017, 09:14:16 PM
You're welcome. Stop being a hipster douche and get lossless files already.  ;)

Yes, I'm 47, buy a tonne of music from, say, Unique Leader, Nuclear Blast, Metal Blade, etc., have been buying vinyl and (then) CDs since 1982, and I'm a "hipster".

 ::)
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Post by: ESFitness on March 29, 2017, 01:05:56 AM
I got ya one-upped: '88 or so, fuckers stole the car and stripped EVERYTHING. Only thing they didn't take was my Rod Stewart tickets (@ LA Forum). Insult to injury, they MFed my music.

Wish they would've stolen the car. Insurance would've paid.didn't really care bout the stereo shit. Had hookups for that,but the cds were gone.
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Post by: Tapeworm on March 29, 2017, 04:49:52 AM
I got ya one-upped: '88 or so, fuckers stole the car and stripped EVERYTHING. Only thing they didn't take was my Rod Stewart tickets (@ LA Forum). Insult to injury, they MFed my music.

At least they thought everything else was sexy.
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Post by: falco on March 29, 2017, 06:07:28 AM
This was music and this was presentation:

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Post by: HTexan on March 29, 2017, 06:11:53 AM
Yes, I'm 47, buy a tonne of music from, say, Unique Leader, Nuclear Blast, Metal Blade, etc., have been buying vinyl and (then) CDs since 1982, and I'm a "hipster".

 ::)
old ass hipster.
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Post by: The Ugly on March 29, 2017, 12:28:51 PM
At least they thought everything else was sexy.

 :)
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Post by: Fortress on March 29, 2017, 02:40:13 PM
old ass hipster.

 ;D
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Post by: TheGrinch on March 29, 2017, 05:12:07 PM
People need to start writing classical music again







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Post by: NelsonMuntz on March 29, 2017, 11:00:37 PM
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Post by: falco on March 30, 2017, 05:09:13 AM
I listen to this after leg day:

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Post by: The Ugly on March 30, 2017, 07:44:54 PM
We get what we deserve. Music's only shitty to the extent that popular taste has gone to shit. Good stuff is always available, just ain't getting played anymore. Folks prefer dogshit is all.

If you listen to EDM/trance/dubstep, shitty rap, or pop-country, pat yourself on the back. Well done.

Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: gh15 on October 21, 2017, 04:31:13 AM
This can mean so many things I know but lets say American music in general including all popular genres.  

I guess one could say the major reason is today's music industry equates a good song as being a good beat and a catchy hook.

Oh yeah....in before GH15.

lol! wigss lol i forgot about wigs,, hwo you been lol

im posting lke crazy about this subject now days lol i fucking despize what they did to music,, de fucking spize,, music was gone anyway you look at it nothing was good since nirvana and peark jam.. i mean nothing was great,, it went down hill from there but still the getto thugs ruined steveie wonder,, ruined lionel Richie,, ruined marvin,, ruined Michael,, ruined ray chales and ruined every quality music humans used to be known for,,

gh15 approved
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Post by: dj181 on October 21, 2017, 05:23:04 AM
i will say it once again....

BEST MUSIC.... 1967-1975

FACT
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Post by: Chidoman on October 21, 2017, 07:58:36 AM
i will say it once again....

BEST MUSIC.... 1967-19751980-1992

FACT

Fixed ;D
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Post by: DroppingPlates on October 21, 2017, 08:11:07 AM
Fixed ;D

The nineties were horrible, some grunch bands like Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam & Alice in Chains excluded
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Post by: Pray_4_War on October 21, 2017, 08:12:18 AM
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Post by: dj181 on October 21, 2017, 08:30:04 AM
started when the shitles released revolver in 66 and ended after floyd released animals in 75
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Post by: delta9mda on October 21, 2017, 09:46:50 AM

utter garbage.
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Post by: HTexan on October 21, 2017, 10:00:23 AM
The nineties were horrible, some grunch bands like Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam & Alice in Chains excluded
The 90’s were great. The last real decade before auto tune, release in 97, come out and fucked music in the ass with no Vaseline.  >:(
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Post by: gh15 on October 21, 2017, 02:47:25 PM
Fixed ;D

yes!

also 1967-1980 is very very very very and then some more very good music,, it was amazing the 1960 to early 1990s

then 1994-1995 and on pretty much all went down the drain,, its as if music is done,, I haven't heard good thing that can last or become masterpiece for a very lng time and I wont hear it,, music is done

gh15 approved
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Post by: dj181 on October 21, 2017, 02:52:03 PM
even black music kicked ass in the 70s 80s

Low Rawls baby!
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Post by: Kwon on October 21, 2017, 02:57:12 PM


That's what we get these days

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Post by: Costanza on October 21, 2017, 03:31:37 PM


 
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Post by: DroppingPlates on October 21, 2017, 03:39:15 PM
That's what we get these days



I'm pretty sure that drama jane makes shadow boxing moves on these thug songs from the ghetto
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Post by: rangerwil on October 21, 2017, 03:40:11 PM

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Post by: dj181 on October 21, 2017, 03:44:10 PM
I'm pretty sure that drama jane makes shadow boxing moves on these thug songs from the ghetto

too bad i didnt save your contest pics that analballs posted

notice how you had them removed each time he did so lulz
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Post by: DroppingPlates on October 21, 2017, 03:49:37 PM
too bad i didnt save your contest pics that analballs posted

notice how you had them removed each time he did so lulz

As always you're lost for counter arguments right from the start :D
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Post by: ratherbebig on October 21, 2017, 04:11:35 PM
how many good songs you need? not a whole lot
so who cares if there's no good new music when there is no need for good new music

thats like saying "well there are no good books written anymore, ive read them all! i need new books!"

Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 21, 2017, 05:30:31 PM
The 90’s were great. The last real decade before auto tune, release in 97, come out and fucked music in the ass with no Vaseline.  >:(



Most "new rock" format rock stations have kept a large part of the rotation from the 90s. In the early/mid 90s you would hear the occasional Zep or Sabbath song but they weren't playing half 70s music on rock stations.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 21, 2017, 06:49:44 PM
Music today is coming out of the same three factories. I suspect one is owned by Disney. Gone are the days where a band was formed in a basement or a garage then appeared in small clubs. People are now hired for their looks and dance moves. Vocal talent is a secondary thought. Any voice problems can be fixed by engineering. Seems like every hit today is a variation of the same 5 songs. What happened to rock? What happened to MoTown?  Any black male singers today?  Almost every pop act appears with a band on stage that is playing to prerecorded tracks. So many lip sync. Back in the day a band could play their songs with two guitars, bass and drums. The music sounded real and from the soul.  Now every hit is something to throw away after a year.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 21, 2017, 06:59:00 PM
A Master Ballad for you Wiggs.  Listen to the power of Tyler`s voice.




This song, written by Jim Steinman was supposed to go to Meatloaf. Meatloafs label refused to pay Jim so he gave it to Tyler. Same with LOve out of nothing at all with Air Supply.. supposed to go to Meatloaf... Steinman is a musical genius
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 21, 2017, 07:37:56 PM
where is wiggs or is he just exclusively using his rangerwill account now?
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: HTexan on October 21, 2017, 10:04:26 PM
where is wiggs or is he just exclusively using his rangerwill account now?
Wigs is this guys main account? I didn’t know wiggs played on the other team. Makes sense though.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Derrick Rigg on October 23, 2017, 05:20:53 AM
I think bad music goes in cycles. There's been alot of shit around the past 6-8 years but the 1970s probably had the most shit music I've ever heard.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Notomorrow on October 23, 2017, 02:49:41 PM
The decline of modern music resulted from slavery. In traditional classical/baroque or "white" music, there was complex melody and harmony...counterpoint. While rythm existed, it was only part of a songs whole.

In contrast, the traditional music of Africa was mostly centered ONLY on rythm and the banging of the drum.Watch several traditional African dances and there is ONLY banging on the drum..no song to be found.

American pop music tried to mix the two musical cultures...first in jazz and big band then of course rock

Whites would write melody and harmony...but the accentuated drum beat would still be the basis for the song. Some artists could blend the two styles quite well ala Billy Joel for an example

Yet the last 20 years has realized that idiot American youths ..the main buyees of pop music...really are too stupid to look for Melody or harmony...so modern artists no longer look for song writers...they look for someone to create a "beat"...Its reverted to basically banging on a drum repetitively while aomeone raps or some shit over it...notice the emphasis on girls with big butts..girls with the biggest butt would show it off in Traditional African dances in the fucking Safari while a drum was banged...were going back to that

No bridges..melodies..its sad...now major producers like Dre Or Diddy can shell out catchy idiot beats for hit after hit after hit

In the old days they had to work with songwriters like Burt Bacharach..Marvin Hamlish,etc

No more...its "de" evolution at its finest.



Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Shizzo on October 23, 2017, 05:30:35 PM
I miss my buddy Wiggs.... :'(

Has anyone heard from him? Tommywishbone, when was the last time you saw him?

It's almost like he has fallen off the edge of the flat earth.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on October 24, 2017, 04:04:14 PM
just discover new genre?

for me i love female punk rocker bands this year (Distellers #1) and classic music (Mozart etc)

Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Gregzs on March 21, 2021, 09:45:09 PM
New Rule: Equality of Outcomes

Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Gregzs on January 09, 2023, 05:45:51 PM
Everything But The Girl tease return with first new music in 24 years

(https://www.nme.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Everything-But-The-Girl-1392x884.jpg)

Everything But The Girl have shared a short video teasing their first new music in 24 years – check it out below.

Last year, Everything But The Girl confirmed they would be reuniting to record a new album – their first since 1999’s ‘Temperamental’.

“Just thought you’d like to know that Ben (Watt) and I have made a new Everything But The Girl album. It’ll be out next spring,” the band’s Tracey Thorn wrote on Twitter.

Today (January 6) the band shared a short video teasing the upcoming album. “Get ready for the kiss,” Everything But The Girl wrote alongside hashtags confirming both a “new single” and a “new album”.

The clip itself features spoken word poetry over industrial buzzing. “What is left to lose? Nothing left to lose. Kiss me while the world decays. Kiss me while the music plays. What is left to lose? Nothing left to lose,” says the mysterious voice in the teaser before a “coming soon” message appears. Check it out

Formed in 1982 by Tracey Thorn and Ben Watt, Everything But The Girl went on to release eleven studio albums alongside collaborations with Massive Attack.

The duo racked up twelve Top 40 singles in the UK including hit single ‘Missing’, which peaked at Number Three while a remix by Todd Terry helped the track earn a BRIT nomination for Best Single.

https://www.nme.com/news/music/everything-but-the-girl-tease-return-with-first-new-music-in-24-years-3376214?fbclid=IwAR1ywjJpjLxTpZqiSUhTQZ6UfePNpblz4T8PhVBV7ACqHyToO_U7uTlg8Yc
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: wes on January 09, 2023, 06:08:22 PM


Here`s some bluesy shit from the man.....enlighten yourselves you unwashed heathens!  :)
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Moontrane on January 09, 2023, 07:20:37 PM
Everything But The Girl tease return with first new music in 24 years

(https://www.nme.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Everything-But-The-Girl-1392x884.jpg)

Everything But The Girl have shared a short video teasing their first new music in 24 years – check it out below.

Last year, Everything But The Girl confirmed they would be reuniting to record a new album – their first since 1999’s ‘Temperamental’.

“Just thought you’d like to know that Ben (Watt) and I have made a new Everything But The Girl album. It’ll be out next spring,” the band’s Tracey Thorn wrote on Twitter.

Today (January 6) the band shared a short video teasing the upcoming album. “Get ready for the kiss,” Everything But The Girl wrote alongside hashtags confirming both a “new single” and a “new album”.

The clip itself features spoken word poetry over industrial buzzing. “What is left to lose? Nothing left to lose. Kiss me while the world decays. Kiss me while the music plays. What is left to lose? Nothing left to lose,” says the mysterious voice in the teaser before a “coming soon” message appears. Check it out

Formed in 1982 by Tracey Thorn and Ben Watt, Everything But The Girl went on to release eleven studio albums alongside collaborations with Massive Attack.

The duo racked up twelve Top 40 singles in the UK including hit single ‘Missing’, which peaked at Number Three while a remix by Todd Terry helped the track earn a BRIT nomination for Best Single.

https://www.nme.com/news/music/everything-but-the-girl-tease-return-with-first-new-music-in-24-years-3376214?fbclid=IwAR1ywjJpjLxTpZqiSUhTQZ6UfePNpblz4T8PhVBV7ACqHyToO_U7uTlg8Yc

Wonderful solo by the late, great Michael Brecker.

Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: delon on January 10, 2023, 02:47:56 AM
Another bit of collateral damage of the Internet Revolution:

a) The direct overt implications on the business model collapsing and struggling to re-group, as mentioned by others 

b) Young people dreaming of fame and all its attendant rewards previously saw music as one of the three primary avenues. And the other 2 were exclusionary largely based on genetic lottery (film star looks and athletic ability). Now you can basically get all the superficial rewards of fame via the internet Influencer route (if you have looks/charm) or personality/app route (if you are introverted/geekier). In other words, you don't need to do so via music. Many kids used to list 'being a rock/pop star' as their dream, I can guarantee that ratio has declined dramatically correlating with the rise of the net /smart phones

c) Lack of boredom
Teenagers used to get together and form groups or tinker around in their bedroom with their guitar or practice singing or stare at exotic record covers for hours dreaming of stardom, and going out to see performers frequently
Since the late 90s with the nascent internet revolution, and escalating exponentially since the smart phone circa 2007 onwards, kids aren't bored anymore (which in turn would lead to the above), they are on their phones
So a huge amount of kids with latent music talent or had been drenched and obsessed and absorbed with music (and would as a consequence spend hours practising and copying and finding their own musical feet) that then results in era defining music are simply not happening now to the same scale




Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 10, 2023, 03:02:00 AM
The decline of modern music resulted from slavery. In traditional classical/baroque or "white" music, there was complex melody and harmony...counterpoint. While rythm existed, it was only part of a songs whole.

In contrast, the traditional music of Africa was mostly centered ONLY on rythm and the banging of the drum.Watch several traditional African dances and there is ONLY banging on the drum..no song to be found.

American pop music tried to mix the two musical cultures...first in jazz and big band then of course rock

Whites would write melody and harmony...but the accentuated drum beat would still be the basis for the song. Some artists could blend the two styles quite well ala Billy Joel for an example

Yet the last 20 years has realized that idiot American youths ..the main buyees of pop music...really are too stupid to look for Melody or harmony...so modern artists no longer look for song writers...they look for someone to create a "beat"...Its reverted to basically banging on a drum repetitively while aomeone raps or some shit over it...notice the emphasis on girls with big butts..girls with the biggest butt would show it off in Traditional African dances in the fucking Safari while a drum was banged...were going back to that

No bridges..melodies..its sad...now major producers like Dre Or Diddy can shell out catchy idiot beats for hit after hit after hit

In the old days they had to work with songwriters like Burt Bacharach..Marvin Hamlish,etc

No more...its "de" evolution at its finest.

This is a great summary
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 10, 2023, 03:03:54 AM
This is a great summary
Yes, it is.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Gym Rat on January 10, 2023, 08:55:53 AM
Music has been declining since the early 80's. Think MTV era, synth (flock of seagulls) rap (Run DMC) etc.
Think about rap for a second. Programmed sequencers/samplers while "talking" nonsense along side it.
Flock of Seagulls and other synth-pop (just horrible nonsense).

Actual hard-rock / analog playing started to go out the window, now anyone can be a "star" and not know a lick of music theory, or never touch and instrument.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: joswift on January 10, 2023, 10:19:45 AM
Quote
The duo racked up twelve Top 40 singles in the UK including hit single ‘Missing’, which peaked at Number Three while a remix by Todd Terry helped the track earn a BRIT nomination for Best Single.

classic track, remixed multiple times

Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 11, 2023, 12:35:00 AM
Music has been declining since the early 80's. Think MTV era, synth (flock of seagulls) rap (Run DMC) etc.
Think about rap for a second. Programmed sequencers/samplers while "talking" nonsense along side it.
Flock of Seagulls and other synth-pop (just horrible nonsense).

Actual hard-rock / analog playing started to go out the window, now anyone can be a "star" and not know a lick of music theory, or never touch and instrument.
Yeah, hip hop took over and everything today is shit. The advantage we have today though is we can always listen to older music.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: IroNat on January 11, 2023, 08:33:24 AM
Music went down the tubes when rap and hip hip were invented.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 11, 2023, 08:39:08 AM
Music went down the tubes when rap and hip hip were invented.

I've always wondered what music we would have if they never brought any slaves from Africa to the US

Lets say they used Native Americans and Asians instead for Cottonpicking
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: IroNat on January 11, 2023, 09:21:23 AM
I've always wondered what music we would have if they never brought any slaves from Africa to the US

Lets say they used Native Americans and Asians instead for Cottonpicking

Those people like lots of drumming but they use a different musical scale.
Title: Re: Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 12, 2023, 02:21:21 AM
I've always wondered what music we would have if they never brought any slaves from Africa to the US

Lets say they used Native Americans and Asians instead for Cottonpicking
Natives couldn't be used as slaves as they would either escape or team up to kill the slave owner. They did own slaves though.