Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?

[DroppingPlates]

Run into this problem when driving in the car, as well as finding music to train to. It all sounds stupid and silly now. The stuff i listened to 10yrs ago is embarrassing now. Doesnt matter if its rap or rock, the lyrics are foolish.

Rappers rapping about "bustin guns" & expensive cars when you realize the guys who've actually fired a weapon, dont sing about it... And the guys rapping about a rolls royce ghost, dont own a ghost and if they drive one, its a rental... Not to mention the guy in a 2012 honda accord rapping along to the lyrics with a $99 sub/amp combo he bought from Fry's wearing a $45 sterling silver chain and cz-"encrusted" "jesus- piece" (prolly not even cz's), and giant princess-cut glass studs in their ears that, if they were real, would cost $12k each (6ct stud, even with dirty diamond @ $2k/ct would be $12k ffs).

And "rockers", even then hardcore tough-guys, wearing tight jeans, giant nickle skull rings, long hair, eye-liner, nail polish.... Grown men singing (which is feminine enough) about being heartbroken/a cowboy/a lone wolf/not somebody to mess with/etc... Its all just silly sounding

While driving ive been listening to talk radio for years now.

Just think about how silly & feminine it is to decide "im gonna say some clever rhyming words and im gonna aingnthem in a melody".

Which station? We used to have a station like that over here with literally that name. It was a lack of advertisers that made them ran out of business after 2-3 years..

[FREAKgeek]

Run into this problem when driving in the car, as well as finding music to train to. It all sounds stupid and silly now. The stuff i listened to 10yrs ago is embarrassing now. Doesnt matter if its rap or rock, the lyrics are foolish.

Rappers rapping about "bustin guns" & expensive cars when you realize the guys who've actually fired a weapon, dont sing about it... And the guys rapping about a rolls royce ghost, dont own a ghost and if they drive one, its a rental... Not to mention the guy in a 2012 honda accord rapping along to the lyrics with a $99 sub/amp combo he bought from Fry's wearing a $45 sterling silver chain and cz-"encrusted" "jesus- piece" (prolly not even cz's), and giant princess-cut glass studs in their ears that, if they were real, would cost $12k each (6ct stud, even with dirty diamond @ $2k/ct would be $12k ffs).

And "rockers", even then hardcore tough-guys, wearing tight jeans, giant nickle skull rings, long hair, eye-liner, nail polish.... Grown men singing (which is feminine enough) about being heartbroken/a cowboy/a lone wolf/not somebody to mess with/etc... Its all just silly sounding

While driving ive been listening to talk radio for years now.

Just think about how silly & feminine it is to decide "im gonna say some clever rhyming words and im gonna aingnthem in a melody".

Similar experiences.

You're getting older. I'm Listening to too much Hannity and Limbaugh too.

Need testosterone

[Yamcha]

[tres_taco_combo]

i am a hard rock dude but not really into the new hard rock stuff. I like atreyu as far of recent bands, but over the last few years ive moved onto punk rock. not new punk stuff but just opened a window for me.

Rancid, misfits, tiger army, horrorpops, social distortion etc

[JBGRAY]

Music today is great. The popular shit in the 90's and 80's was bad too.

[FREAKgeek]

Problem i have with the conservative radio/tv folks isnt with what they say, its how they say it. Like Oreily and Hannity, theyre as pompous and smug as rachel madcow, though hannity isnt near as bad as oreily

Michael Savage is as arrogant as it gets, he can't go 10 min without patting himself on the back - the number of listeners he has, his book sales, how bright he is,  . Mark Levin is getting the same way. I used to like his show years back but now he's just angry all the time.

[Hack Benchers]

It's a great world for those who prefer to deny the reality. 'Negativity' is nothing more than a subjective judgement. Like I just said, there are still plenty of decent folks, but that's not the whole story.

Fair enough. Please carry on.

[ilalin]

I actually agree with GH15, whoever the fuck he is...today in the Western world children are born and raised with a notion that society and the world owes you, just like a child from a single parent. Senses are so saturated that feelings are brought to the lowest level, violence in the media is rampant but to see or spell titty in a forum is fcken forbidden.
Everything needs to be done with empathy for each other, they  post, while fcking you in the ass and taking your hard earned $$$. For kids nowadays that's normal, they'll slaughter you for money, just like Anthony Robbins slaughters pour soul's wallets with his nonsense programs. Majority of music is over compressed and hard to listen to, literally hard on your ears, Google compression wars.
Of course, there is talent everywhere, but there is also so much garbage that you have to be informed properly in order to find it. But you cannot, because if you open up a page thousands of links pop by and you get saturated. They want you to do that and at the same time serve personalized ads so you spend your fckn $$$ unnecessarily. Brainwashed slaves. Only a good, rough to the balls conflict (war) will cleanse this planet.

[Fortress]

I'm a hard rock/metal head.

Been since 1982.

Have never wavered, lost interest or stopped buying music.

As of this week, I have over 25 CDs on order through various online sources. Two arrived today.

My collection is several-thousand deep. One whole room in my condo. Hell, my music DVD collection is over one thousand units.

There is always high quality music being written, recorded and performed.

A majority of people are/were never into music in the first place. Not really.

[FREAKgeek]

I'm a hard rock/metal head.

Been since 1982.

Have never wavered, lost interest or stopped buying music.

As of this week, I have over 25 CDs on order through various online sources. Two arrived today.

My collection is several-thousand deep. One whole room in my condo. Hell, my music DVD collection is over one thousand units.

There is always high quality music being written, recorded and performed.

A majority of people are/were never into music in the first place. Not really.

That's an impressive collection. Do you abhor the whole mp3 scene?

I like it cause I tend to get lazy with CDs, they always manage to stay out of their sleeves and collect stacks and get scratched. You can't beat it for the car too.

But then there's the whole collector's side to it, were you get an album with its art and what not. I sold most of my CDs when I was younger. I got rid of the cardboard too back when they used to have them in cardboard, regret it.

[Fortress]

That's an impressive collection. Do you abhor the whole mp3 scene?

I like it cause I tend to get lazy with CDs, they always manage to stay out of their sleeves and collect stacks and get scratched. You can't beat it for the car too.

But then there's the whole collector's side to it, were you get an album with its art and what not. I sold most of my CDs when I was younger. I got rid of the cardboard too back when they used to have them in cardboard, regret it.

I dislike digital downloads only so much as the technology has (more easily) allowed thieves to steal and, in doing, collapsed the industry. Now the industry deserves a lot of the suffering it's now experiencing, yes, but there has to be a balance.

I am a collector (obviously) and just cannot see computer files as being anywhere near as satisfying and badass.

A physical format, with all the trimmings, is the rock that makes Fortress roll.

However, if someone prefers BUYING a download, more power to him.

But stealing another's work is wrong, wrong, wrong.

My collection brings me great joy.

And I NEVER leave my home without a CD for my Jeep. Never. Ever.

[HTexan]

I dislike digital downloads only so much as the technology has (more easily) allowed thieves to steal and, in doing, collapsed the industry. Now the industry deserves a lot of the suffering it's now experiencing, yes, but there has to be a balance.

I am a collector (obviously) and just cannot see computer files as being anywhere near as satisfying and badass.

A physical format, with all the trimmings, is the rock that makes Fortress roll.

However, if someone prefers BUYING a download, more power to him.

But stealing another's work is wrong, wrong, wrong.

My collection brings me great joy.

And I NEVER leave my home without a CD for my Jeep. Never. Ever.

CDs suck. Lossless audio is the only way to go or streaming if listening from headphones.

[Fortress]

CDs suck. Lossless audio is the only way to go or streaming if listening from headphones.

Thanks for that. 

[HTexan]

Thanks for that. 

You're welcome. Stop being a hipster douche and get lossless files already. 

[ESFitness]

I havent paid for music since 2000 when i bought PaulnOakenfold Tranceport..... And i dont imagine ill ever pay for music again in my life. Even if i had $30mil in the bank id still be downloading the shit.

[The Ugly]

You're welcome. Stop being a hipster douche and get lossless files already. 

CDs were here long before hipsters. I hate the scratching/skipping, but I'm all CD, too. But I got two of those envelope storage things in my car. Never drive anywhere without 80+ discs.

[Notomorrow]

Hard rock...even some pop rock was a celebration of the alpha male. People think rap shit is alpha but if you have to scowl and wear a bunch of gold chains to look tough and important...its PURE beta male. Notice how they all rap about being up in some vip club...getting noticed...getting laid...this is all beta. If ya have to prove it...you're beta.

Real rock stars grew their hair long...a typically feminine trait...to show that they are so fucking alpha they can dress and look however they want and EVERYONE still knows they are the man.

The decline of music coincides with the decline of the American man.

Its why most young girls worship classic rock...go to any young female...she's into Zepplin....Hendricks and Nirvana. She could give a shit about the beta males like Justin Bieber being thrown at her.

[Fortress]

I havent paid for music since 2000 when i bought PaulnOakenfold Tranceport..... And i dont imagine ill ever pay for music again in my life. Even if i had $30mil in the bank id still be downloading the shit.

Hopefully you'll do some intensive work for someone at some point and that someone will tell you he simply doesn't wanna pay you for it.

[The Ugly]

I remember getting into my car one sunday morning back in 2000 and when i went to turn the radio up, there was no head-unit lol. (they got everything. Head unit, eq, capacitor, amps, 2 JL W7's... At least they disconnected everything and didnt rip anything out. And they left the remote!)

Anyways..... The worst part of it all was realizing they took my cd cases. Well over 150 cds gone. Lots of $30 imported singles from europe and Japan. Lots of white-label records (house and trance.."techno" stuff) that were ripped and burned to cdr that couldnt be replaced. Think i estimated the loss on those cds alone was $6k.

I got ya one-upped: '88 or so, fuckers stole the car and stripped EVERYTHING. Only thing they didn't take was my Rod Stewart tickets (@ LA Forum). Insult to injury, they MFed my music.

[Fortress]

You're welcome. Stop being a hipster douche and get lossless files already. 

Yes, I'm 47, buy a tonne of music from, say, Unique Leader, Nuclear Blast, Metal Blade, etc., have been buying vinyl and (then) CDs since 1982, and I'm a "hipster".

 

[ESFitness]

I got ya one-upped: '88 or so, fuckers stole the car and stripped EVERYTHING. Only thing they didn't take was my Rod Stewart tickets (@ LA Forum). Insult to injury, they MFed my music.

Wish they would've stolen the car. Insurance would've paid.didn't really care bout the stereo shit. Had hookups for that,but the cds were gone.

[Tapeworm]

I got ya one-upped: '88 or so, fuckers stole the car and stripped EVERYTHING. Only thing they didn't take was my Rod Stewart tickets (@ LA Forum). Insult to injury, they MFed my music.

At least they thought everything else was sexy.

[falco]

This was music and this was presentation:

[HTexan]

Yes, I'm 47, buy a tonne of music from, say, Unique Leader, Nuclear Blast, Metal Blade, etc., have been buying vinyl and (then) CDs since 1982, and I'm a "hipster".

 

old ass hipster.

[The Ugly]

At least they thought everything else was sexy.