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Title: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 13, 2011, 03:33:40 PM
Starting this thread so we can talk about the Beatles...my favorite all time band.....there are a lot of haters who say the Beatles sucked but their record sales speak for themselves...still selling big time 40-45 years later.....what are your favorite songs?....who was he most talented?...what caused the break-up?..lets talk about all things Beatles!
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Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on May 13, 2011, 03:38:37 PM
I hate the fucking Beatles. Can't stand ANY of their shit.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 13, 2011, 03:40:33 PM
I hate the fucking Beatles. Can't stand ANY of their shit.

you're definitely crazy
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: EL Mariachi on May 13, 2011, 03:42:07 PM
All hype, back in the day everybody was screaming, they had to run for their lives, even some tunnels were made for them, now they can walk anywehere they like
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: wes on May 13, 2011, 03:42:22 PM
I hate the fucking Beatles. Can't stand ANY of their shit.
X2
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Post by: chunkramwell on May 13, 2011, 03:42:57 PM


Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 13, 2011, 03:44:15 PM
What is everyone's five best Beatles songs?


Hey Jude
Let it Be
Get Back
Something
Here Comes the Sun
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 13, 2011, 03:46:10 PM
All hype, back in the day everybody was screaming, they had to run for their lives, even some tunnels were made for them, now they can walk anywehere they like

hype doesn't continue to sell records 45 years later dude..sorry
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Post by: Coach is Back! on May 13, 2011, 03:47:47 PM
Fuck...I hate the Beatles, its like listening to nails on a chalk board. Greatest PR in the history of music.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 13, 2011, 03:48:57 PM
Fuck...I hate the Beatles, its like listening to nails on a chalk board. Greatest PR in the history of music.

maybe I should have made this a Beatles Hate Thread..LOL
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on May 13, 2011, 03:51:45 PM
Fuck...I hate the Beatles, its like listening to nails on a chalk board. Greatest PR in the history of music.

What bands are great then, Coachy?
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 13, 2011, 03:54:30 PM
I hate the fucking Beatles. Can't stand ANY of their shit.

X3
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: TacoBell on May 13, 2011, 04:02:06 PM
What is everyone's five best Beatles songs?


Hey Jude
Let it Be
Get Back
Something
Here Comes the Sun

Revolution
Instant Karma
Dear Prudence
A Day in the LIfe
Dont let me down


Looking at their discography, I can never understand how people can hate the beatles, even more so today when the 'hype' is  no longer active.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 13, 2011, 04:35:36 PM
I hate the fucking Beatles. Can't stand ANY of their shit.
X4
I know they had their own sound and inspired many artists, but I still hate their songs.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: dj181 on May 13, 2011, 06:08:50 PM
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: Captain Equipoise on May 13, 2011, 06:36:01 PM
Wrong forum dude, go take your shit to www.crappyMusicFromThe60's.com
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: tendonitis on May 13, 2011, 06:38:35 PM
most overrated boyband ever
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: beakdoctor on May 13, 2011, 07:29:41 PM
Alot of ignorance in this thread. Beatles were phenomenal band. Maybe greatest band ever, right up there with the Stones. Abbey Road is one of the greatest albums ever. White Album, Sgt Peppers and Let it be all solid as well.

Pre 1967 alot of their music was marketed to teeny boppers but that does not detract from the obvious musical talent displayed later on. Each member was a good musician in their own right.  Even in their teeny bopper days they wrote their own music, played their own instruments and put on one hell of a live show. That alone should stand for something, especially compared to the no talent-studio creations that we are force fed now. Post 67 Sgt Peppers was their concept-experimental- break out album. Abbey Road was their most mature effort. Complete from start to finish. The last song on Abbey Road is called The End. It is alternating guitar solos by John, Paul and George. Its pure rock and roll.

After they broke up Paul McCartney and John Lennon both made solo albums where every song was composed by themselves and every instrument was played by themselves.  You don't see talent like that anymore.

For all the haters, I hear some bitch called Lady GaGa is supposedly really talented.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: tendonitis on May 13, 2011, 07:34:39 PM
Alot of ignorance in this thread. Beatles were phenomenal band. Maybe greatest band ever, right up there with the Stones. Abbey Road is one of the greatest albums ever. White Album, Sgt Peppers and Let it be all solid as well.

Pre 1967 alot of their music was marketed to teeny boppers but that does not detract from the obvious musical talent displayed later on. Each member was a good musician in their own right.  Even in their teeny bopper days they wrote their own music, played their own instruments and put on one hell of a live show. That alone should stand for something, especially compared to the no talent-studio creations that we are force fed now. Post 67 Sgt Peppers was their concept-experimental- break out album. Abbey Road was their most mature effort. Complete from start to finish. The last song on Abbey Road is called The End. It is alternating guitar solos by John, Paul and George. Its pure rock and roll.

After they broke up Paul McCartney and John Lennon both made solo albums where every song was composed by themselves and every instrument was played by themselves.  You don't see talent like that anymore.

For all the haters, I hear some bitch called Lady GaGa is supposedly really talented.
hi Paul, how much do you bench?
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on May 13, 2011, 07:54:35 PM
Alot of ignorance in this thread. Beatles were phenomenal band. Maybe greatest band ever, right up there with the Stones. Abbey Road is one of the greatest albums ever. White Album, Sgt Peppers and Let it be all solid as well.

Pre 1967 alot of their music was marketed to teeny boppers but that does not detract from the obvious musical talent displayed later on. Each member was a good musician in their own right.  Even in their teeny bopper days they wrote their own music, played their own instruments and put on one hell of a live show. That alone should stand for something, especially compared to the no talent-studio creations that we are force fed now. Post 67 Sgt Peppers was their concept-experimental- break out album. Abbey Road was their most mature effort. Complete from start to finish. The last song on Abbey Road is called The End. It is alternating guitar solos by John, Paul and George. Its pure rock and roll.

After they broke up Paul McCartney and John Lennon both made solo albums where every song was composed by themselves and every instrument was played by themselves.  You don't see talent like that anymore.

For all the haters, I hear some bitch called Lady GaGa is supposedly really talented.


* yawn * I got a cock that needs suckin', boy. Get to it. All this Beatles talk is makin' me soft.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: outby43 on May 13, 2011, 07:59:05 PM
What bands are great then, Coachy?

Probably

Amy Grant
Stryper
The Conservatives
The Republican Five
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 13, 2011, 08:46:02 PM
Alot of ignorance in this thread. Beatles were phenomenal band. Maybe greatest band ever, right up there with the Stones. Abbey Road is one of the greatest albums ever. White Album, Sgt Peppers and Let it be all solid as well.

Pre 1967 alot of their music was marketed to teeny boppers but that does not detract from the obvious musical talent displayed later on. Each member was a good musician in their own right.  Even in their teeny bopper days they wrote their own music, played their own instruments and put on one hell of a live show. That alone should stand for something, especially compared to the no talent-studio creations that we are force fed now. Post 67 Sgt Peppers was their concept-experimental- break out album. Abbey Road was their most mature effort. Complete from start to finish. The last song on Abbey Road is called The End. It is alternating guitar solos by John, Paul and George. Its pure rock and roll.

After they broke up Paul McCartney and John Lennon both made solo albums where every song was composed by themselves and every instrument was played by themselves.  You don't see talent like that anymore.

For all the haters, I hear some bitch called Lady GaGa is supposedly really talented.

Now here's a dude with some sense..nice post..thanks dude
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 13, 2011, 08:47:39 PM
Revolution
Instant Karma
Dear Prudence
A Day in the LIfe
Dont let me down


Looking at their discography, I can never understand how people can hate the beatles, even more so today when the 'hype' is  no longer active.


A Day in the Life was awesome.....so was Don't Let me down......I also loved "two of us"
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 13, 2011, 08:48:32 PM

* yawn * I got a cock that needs suckin', boy. Get to it. All this Beatles talk is makin' me soft.


If you think the Beatles are bad you're permanently soft...as in gay
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: dj181 on May 13, 2011, 09:47:54 PM
Actually, it was Revolver that really took them out of the "pop music" mode.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 14, 2011, 03:17:54 AM
Starting this thread so we can talk about the Beatles...my favorite all time band.....there are a lot of haters who say the Beatles sucked but their record sales speak for themselves...still selling big time 40-45 years later.....what are your favorite songs?....who was he most talented?...what caused the break-up?..lets talk about all things Beatles!

Paul's dead man, miss him, miss him, miss him...
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: Firemuscle on May 14, 2011, 03:23:30 AM
I hate the fucking Beatles. Can't stand ANY of their shit.

 I agree.

 I love rock music and love 60's rock but there are no Beatles songs I like.

 I can see how they were very innovative for the time, but I thin their music sucks.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: dj181 on May 14, 2011, 04:14:04 AM
According to Frank "The Chairman of the Board" Sinatra this is the best love song ever written

Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 14, 2011, 05:25:30 AM
What is everyone's five best Beatles songs?


Hey Jude
Let it Be
Get Back
Something
Here Comes the Sun
???
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: local hero on May 14, 2011, 06:01:26 AM
greatest band ever to walk the earth ever and will never be surpassed... pure songwriting talent, ruined by a crazy Asian woman

i love the stones, but they wrote alot of crap along side there amzing songs, such as paint it black etc
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 14, 2011, 12:22:22 PM
greatest band ever to walk the earth ever and will never be surpassed... pure songwriting talent, ruined by a crazy Asian woman

i love the stones, but they wrote alot of crap along side there amzing songs, such as paint it black etc


very good point....I always wonder what would have happened had the Beatles kept going just like the stones and John wouldn't have been shot.,..with the technology today their songs would have been really good

and you are absolutely right..their music will NEVER be surpassed..they were certainly in the right place at the right time
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Post by: ManBearPig... on May 14, 2011, 02:23:23 PM
a little known fact was that the beatles formed in 1960 and toured (mostly in germany) for about 3 or so years before they recorded an album.  this consisted of multiple shows a day, about 7 days a week.

they were a veteran performing band before recording their first album.

some of their songs were shitty (mostly from the earlier days), but laster on they would record some of the greatest music ever.

they only recorded actively for 6 years, and if you viewed their work, no two songs sound alike yet 3 seconds into each you know it's a beatles song.

let's have 'nsync put out a "revolver".
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: Princess L on May 14, 2011, 02:28:47 PM
Starting this thread so we can talk about the Beatles...my favorite all time band.....there are a lot of haters who say the Beatles sucked but their record sales speak for themselves...still selling big time 40-45 years later.....what are your favorite songs?....who was he most talented?...what caused the break-up?..lets talk about all things Beatles!

Yoko
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: kiwiol on May 14, 2011, 02:31:04 PM
Yoko

Racist post reported
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: kevcat on May 14, 2011, 05:23:15 PM
What a bunch of pansies saying the Beatles 'suck' ::) . I guess its some sort of macho thing to say that these days.
Theyre clearly the greatest band ever.If anyone who says they suck would actually listen to all of their albums they would know why.I love when people say a band sucks just because theyve heard a few singles on the radio or MTV, rather than actually hearing an album.Kinda immature...I dont really think Led Zeppelin had great singles but i wouldnt say they suck based on that.Thats just gay  ::)
Yeh like someone said, 6 or 7 years recording music and prodeuced pretty much 2 albums per year written by themselves.Now show me a band these days or since who release even an album every 2 years where there last album is as good if not better than any before.... ;)
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: Reeves on May 14, 2011, 05:38:39 PM
Yoko

Old '60s joke.  How did Yoko get her last name?  John saw her naked.

Truman Capote called her "the Jap".  Hated her guts, did he.

The Beatles were the best of the best.  As someone already said the Chairman of the Board, Frank Sinatra called Harrison's "Something" the "greatest love song ever written".  Coming from the premier voice of the twentieth century, that says a lot.

The Beatles are my favorite traditional popular music group.  They defined not only a genre of music, but an entire generation as well.  I don't mind at all that some people don't like their music.  Shit, I can't abide cRap, Hip Hop, Country or any number of different types of what passes for music both now and in the past.

A century from now the music of the Beatles will still be played and enjoyed.  Lady GagMe?  Fuck that noise.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 14, 2011, 05:40:50 PM
Yoko
;D..everyone says that
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 14, 2011, 05:41:45 PM
What a bunch of pansies saying the Beatles 'suck' ::) . I guess its some sort of macho thing to say that these days.
Theyre clearly the greatest band ever.If anyone who says they suck would actually listen to all of their albums they would know why.I love when people say a band sucks just because theyve heard a few singles on the radio or MTV, rather than actually hearing an album.Kinda immature...I dont really think Led Zeppelin had great singles but i wouldnt say they suck based on that.Thats just gay  ::)
Yeh like someone said, 6 or 7 years recording music and prodeuced pretty much 2 albums per year written by themselves.Now show me a band these days or since who release even an album every 2 years where there last album is as good if not better than any before.... ;)

great post..all true
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 14, 2011, 05:43:04 PM
Old '60s joke.  How did Yoko get her last name?  John saw her naked.

Truman Capote called her "the Jap".  Hated her guts, did he.

The Beatles were the best of the best.  As someone already said the Chairman of the Board, Frank Sinatra called Harrison's "Something" the "greatest love song ever written".  Coming from the premier voice of the twentieth century, that says a lot.

The Beatles are my favorite traditional popular music group.  They defined not only a genre of music, but an entire generation as well.  I don't mind at all that some people don't like their music.  Shit, I can't abide cRap, Hip Hop, Country or any number of different types of what passes for music both now and in the past.

A century from now the music of the Beatles will still be played and enjoyed.  Lady GagMe?  Fuck that noise.

agreed X100 ;)
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Post by: dogbowl on May 14, 2011, 06:01:45 PM
I was talking with an 18 year old girl about music, and it turns out she has never heard of Jimi Hendrix,  never heard of Led Zeppelin, and doesn't know what woodstock was.  And she "hates the Beatles"

It's a mistake to think that future generations will know or care about classic rock.

Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: noc on May 14, 2011, 06:23:18 PM




Good stuff  8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 14, 2011, 08:52:26 PM
These guys were just so talented.....even Ringo wrote and sang songs......Many have said that Ringo is the greatest rock drummer of all time....all of the other Beatles said that Ringo 's drumming was the glue that held their songs together....thats why when he quit they begged him to come back and even bought him a room full of flowers upon his return
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Post by: The Ugly on May 14, 2011, 09:26:13 PM
Many have said that Ringo is the greatest rock drummer of all time...

No one has ever said those words.

Ever.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: drmarkp on May 14, 2011, 10:38:58 PM
No one has ever said those words.

Ever.

Ringo's back beat was incredible..
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: dogbowl on May 15, 2011, 12:44:07 AM
Theyre clearly the greatest band ever.If anyone who says they suck would actually listen to all of their albums they would know why.

Going deeper into their discography is partly what ruined them for me.  There are some absolute shockers on albums like The White Album.  Listening to their contemporaries is also a way to lower your opinion of the beatles.  Songs like All Along the Watchtower (jimi hendrix's version) make the beatles songs of the same year sound like grandma music.

I've noticed that a lot of bodybuilding and weightlifting videos on youtube tend to have very loud, aggressive heavy metal music (the antithesis of beatles music), so i wouldn't expect the average bodybuilder to be into their stuff anyway.

Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 15, 2011, 08:53:49 AM
No one has ever said those words.

Ever.

not true....I am have seen rock documentaries where this has been said
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 15, 2011, 08:55:18 AM
Ringo's back beat was incredible..

very true
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: Princess L on May 15, 2011, 09:13:50 AM
;D..everyone says that


The power of a woman
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: kevcat on May 15, 2011, 10:06:01 AM
Going deeper into their discography is partly what ruined them for me.  There are some absolute shockers on albums like The White Album.  Listening to their contemporaries is also a way to lower your opinion of the beatles.  Songs like All Along the Watchtower (jimi hendrix's version) make the beatles songs of the same year sound like grandma music.

I've noticed that a lot of bodybuilding and weightlifting videos on youtube tend to have very loud, aggressive heavy metal music (the antithesis of beatles music), so i wouldn't expect the average bodybuilder to be into their stuff anyway.



Hold on.........You must only like loud aggressive music if youre a serious bodybuilder.My last 10 years of training since 15 must have been a waste of time because ill never be a serious bodybuilder because of my music tastes LOL man you need to come out your room more.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 15, 2011, 10:41:20 AM
The power of a woman

lets face it...PUSSY has done some real bad damage to powerful men over the centuries...PUSSY has gotten more men into  trouble than anything
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: Princess L on May 15, 2011, 11:11:25 AM
lets face it...PUSSY has done some real bad damage to powerful men over the centuries...PUSSY has gotten more men into  trouble than anything

If men would only think with their
(http://medicalimages.allrefer.com/large/brain.jpg)

instead of
(http://thinknice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Male-Brain-Breakdown.jpg)

or
(http://www.simpsonstrivia.com.ar/simpsons-photos/wallpapers/homer-simpson-wallpaper-brain-1024.jpg)

Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: dj181 on May 15, 2011, 11:37:07 AM
Man's own worst enemy is himself
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Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2011, 12:10:33 PM

If men would only think with their
(http://medicalimages.allrefer.com/large/brain.jpg)

instead of
(http://thinknice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Male-Brain-Breakdown.jpg)

or
(http://www.simpsonstrivia.com.ar/simpsons-photos/wallpapers/homer-simpson-wallpaper-brain-1024.jpg)



In short, in contradiction with a women's brain, the man's brain is understandable after a 5 min conversation with it's owner. You don't need to learn Latin or possess empathy to understand how it works.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 15, 2011, 12:21:56 PM
I thought I logged in on some Beatles thread.... ???
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2011, 12:44:08 PM
I thought I logged in on some Beatles thread.... ???

Short attention span, you know. The Beatles are boring.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 15, 2011, 12:45:08 PM
Short attention span, you know. The Beatles are boring.
I know, 50% of them is dead already..
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2011, 12:55:51 PM
I know, 50% of them is dead already..

Can't wait for the rest  ;D

Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 15, 2011, 05:19:17 PM
oh another song I really loved was "Ticket to Ride"....thought that was an awesome song.....

The Beatles were fine until they all started getting married....thats when things started going down hill...also after they stopped touring they didn't have that bond any more

Even after they broke up all four went on to have number one hits
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: The Ugly on May 15, 2011, 05:45:52 PM
Add me to the 'Beatles suck' list.

Fuckin Stones, baby. All day.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 15, 2011, 09:02:47 PM
Add me to the 'Beatles suck' list.

Fuckin Stones, baby. All day.

you're crazy
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: dj181 on May 15, 2011, 11:19:30 PM
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 16, 2011, 03:24:26 AM
you're crazy

Rather that than boring as hell
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 16, 2011, 05:36:13 AM
Rather that than boring as hell

okay so leave the thread then and go post in the gay threads
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Post by: CalvinH on May 16, 2011, 07:14:08 AM
Great band.
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 16, 2011, 08:49:56 AM
Great band.

not just great..awesome!
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 16, 2011, 01:48:04 PM
okay so leave the thread then and go post in the gay threads
Keep your homo fantasies for yourself, sensitive fellah
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 16, 2011, 01:59:16 PM
Keep your homo fantasies for yourself, sensitive fellah

Don't get mad at me..just helping you out
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 16, 2011, 02:29:50 PM
Don't get mad at me..just helping you out

LOL, I'm not a old fart, scouting boy, so I can open the door myself (if I want)  ;D
Title: Re: THE OFFICIAL BEATLES THREAD
Post by: andreisdaman on May 16, 2011, 08:29:12 PM
LOL, I'm not a old fart, scouting boy, so I can open the door myself (if I want)  ;D
fair enough ;)