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Title: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes (Liberal Policies).
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 05:13:02 AM
Updated: Mon., May. 16, 2011, 3:44 AM  
Escape from New York
Last Updated: 3:44 AM, May 16, 2011





As state lawmakers hem and haw over Gov. Cuomo's property-tax cap, a new poll last week showed that more than one of every four New Yorkers is headed for the exits.

Indeed, more than one in three New Yorkers under the age of 30, some 36 percent, want out, the survey by the exemplary NY1/YNN-Marist pollsters found.

"Unchecked," says Marist's Lee Miringoff, "this threatens to drain the state of the next generation."

Overstatement? Detroit lost a quarter of its population between 2000 and 2011; absolutely, it could happen here.

Indeed, Buffalo already lost 11 percent over the past decade. Overall, the state's population grew slower than all but three other states.

What don't folks like about New York?

A whopping 62 percent cite economic factors, like the high cost of living, insufficient jobs and -- yes -- high taxes (which, by the way, feed the other two).

That's no surprise, actually. New York leads the nation in state and local levies, with property taxes right at the top:

* The 15 counties with highest property taxes in the nation, as a percentage of home value, are all in New York.

* Nassau and Westchester are the two most heavily taxed counties in America, in absolute dollars.

* The state's median property tax is almost double that of the nation.

Meanwhile, the huge burden on businesses -- which pay five times as much in property taxes as in corporate-income taxes -- drives away investors. And jobs.

With workers, particularly young ones, not far behind.

Clearly, New Yorkers need relief -- like Cuomo's proposed 2 percent cap on yearly property-tax hikes.

But the Legislature is resisting. It's more interested in pleasing teachers unions (which fiercely oppose the cap, as property taxes go largely to their members) than doing right by New York.

Yes, the Senate passed Cuomo's cap. But it did so disingenuously: Majority Leader Dean Skelos knows full well that one-house bills go nowhere in Albany, that it'll take a three-way deal -- between the Senate, Assembly and governor -- to see a cap become law.

Yet he insists on all or nothing.

Ensuring that taxpayers get . . . nothing.

This will keep the teachers unions -- and, thus, his members -- happy, while allowing Skelos to pretend to fiscal rectitude. It's a breathtakingly cynical ploy, even by Albany's debased standards.

Meanwhile, Assembly Speaker Shelly Silver promises his own cap -- knowing full well that the Senate has no interest in any cap. So Silver can also talk tough with no fear of offending the unions.

The gridlock points to yet another reason so many New Yorkers may be headed across state lines: They view Albany as dysfunctional -- and corrupt.

Just last Friday, the latest in a never-ending line of lawmakers to be criminally convicted, ex-Sen. Vincent Leibell, drew 21 months for a kickback scheme.

And wouldn't you know? Lawmakers are also balking at Cuomo's ethics bill.

Albany will never redeem itself, and keep New Yorkers in New York, until it gets serious with ethics reform. And caps taxes, as Cuomo proposes.

We intend to do our best to see that it does just that.


http://www.nypost.com/f/print/news/opinion/editorials/escape_from_new_york_bQ3s3rXPXW3GFYLnzOflNI


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  -  Grossly overpaid cops, firemen, teachers, garbagemen, janitors, law makers, etc.

  -  Parasites outnumbering producers.

  -   Welfare for all the bums and ridiculous medicade benes.

  -  Every left wing communist group seems to hold sway on the leiglature.  


And people wonder why people are fleeing in droves?  

NYS is a typical left wing experiment gone wrong and that blew up.   Same with Detroit, Chicago, and all the other one party states run by leftists.      
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 05:26:22 AM
Then fucking leave.  What's so hard about that?
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 08:00:22 AM
Then fucking leave.  What's so hard about that?

Family obligations. 
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: MCWAY on May 16, 2011, 08:10:05 AM
Then fucking leave.  What's so hard about that?

He ain't Rush Limbaugh or Lebron James!!  ;D
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 08:13:47 AM
He ain't Rush Limbaugh or Lebron James!!  ;D

Or the ex ceo of PAYCHECK Golisano who left the state for the same reasons.   

People are fleeing the democrat run states in droves.   These one party messes like NY, Cali, IL, MI, are the textbook example of what NOT to do.   

Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Hereford on May 16, 2011, 09:38:29 AM
Family obligations. 

I'd be out of CA if I could move ground or borders, thus free of this mess here.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: 240 is Back on May 16, 2011, 09:42:57 AM
He ain't Rush Limbaugh or Lebron James!!  ;D


333386 should bring his obama hating talents to South beach!
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 09:50:48 AM

333386 should bring his obama hating talents to South beach!

I went there once, never again.

Very odd place.   I was in a pool and all of a sudden some fat disguting ghetto thug animal says to me and my friends.

"aaaahhhwww shit - here are da white boys.   I walked over to this beast and said - where you from gorgeous?   She says to me - yo i'm from da Bronx yo!."

I said - "Guess what slim - we are neighbors"


Never again.  When i go away, I dont want to be around ghetto thug trash from NYC.   I see enough of these animals every day.           
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 10:01:52 AM
Want to take the Lurkermore bet and wager your account slick? 
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: MCWAY on May 16, 2011, 11:05:03 AM
Or the ex ceo of PAYCHECK Golisano who left the state for the same reasons.   

People are fleeing the democrat run states in droves.   These one party messes like NY, Cali, IL, MI, are the textbook example of what NOT to do.   



And that's why Obama and his goons are trying to force business to stay in certain states, instead of moving south.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 12:25:47 PM
Want to take the Lurkermore bet and wager your account slick? 

You have failed to take my bet nancy boy.  Instead you still try to bring everyone else into it.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 12:29:37 PM
You have failed to take my bet nancy boy.  Instead you still try to bring everyone else into it.

I thought you are coming by next month?   No? 
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 12:34:45 PM
That is correct.  And each time I said I would meet you, you just whined and cried and posted bullshit in return.  Seemed like you want to meet every other person off the board and verify who you are except the one making the bet with you. 

Each time I told you to prove it to me in person, you simply did your usual little gay talking and whining.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 12:41:05 PM
That is correct.  And each time I said I would meet you, you just whined and cried and posted bullshit in return.  Seemed like you want to meet every other person off the board and verify who you are except the one making the bet with you. 

Each time I told you to prove it to me in person, you simply did your usual little gay talking and whining.

No, i was just trying to get you bounced earlier.   Next month will do.

   
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 12:46:03 PM
Don't worry.  You will have your chance to do so.  Just bring a driver's license and if the picture on it matches you and the name on it matches whatever degree you claimed to have, I will believe you and give you my account password.

You ain't getting off the hook next month by any chance.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: MCWAY on May 16, 2011, 12:46:44 PM
My stepfather worked in New York for about 30 years, before he had a massive heart attack. Unable to work, he relied on his pension. He grew up in Florida, before moving to New York.

The cost of living in Florida was so much lower that, when he moved back, he was living high off the hog. There a reason, why we have so many old New Yorkers in the Sunshine State, especially in the Tampa Bay area and in the SpaceCoast (Orlando and other central Florida areas).

Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 12:51:03 PM
Don't worry.  You will have your chance to do so.  Just bring a driver's license and if the picture on it matches you and the name on it matches whatever degree you claimed to have, I will believe you and give you my account password.

You ain't getting off the hook next month by any chance.

You have to come by my office than.  I'm not taking the plaques off the wall. 

You can either take the 4 from Grand Central to woodlawn and walk.   Or you can take the metro north from grand central and get off the woodlawn stop.   

 
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 03:59:22 PM
My stepfather worked in New York for about 30 years, before he had a massive heart attack. Unable to work, he relied on his pension. He grew up in Florida, before moving to New York.

The cost of living in Florida was so much lower that, when he moved back, he was living high off the hog. There a reason, why we have so many old New Yorkers in the Sunshine State, especially in the Tampa Bay area and in the SpaceCoast (Orlando and other central Florida areas).



Yep.  All the NY Jews head down to Aventura and Hallendale.  They claim homestead here because FL has no state taxes either.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Fury on May 16, 2011, 04:16:28 PM
You have failed to take my bet nancy boy.  Instead you still try to bring everyone else into it.

You're one creepy fagg0t. Do you do anything beyond following 333 around this board lapping at his nuts like a dog in heat?

Please tell me you're not over the age of 15.  :-\
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 05:55:07 PM
I know that you are nothing but a one dimensional bumblefuck.  Perhaps you should stick to meltdowning over muslims.   

I suspect that people under 15 have an IQ and articulate thought process beyond your keen, so even if I were under 15 and a creepy homo to boot,  that would place me in better company compared to you. 

Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Fury on May 16, 2011, 05:57:25 PM
So you're in your thirties and you're stalking another man on an internet forum? Got to admit, that's pretty pathetic. Not to mention creepy.  :-\
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 06:16:29 PM
I bring it on myself.  I know that.  When obamabots troll and stalk me, I know I am on the right path.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 06:18:16 PM
Not even thirty.

Perhaps you should stick to your typical fagg0t type remarks instead of guessing you know something about someone.  At least it would be consistent with your own self loathing closet projections.

But keep trying.   To say it is mildly amusing to watch is the least one can do.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 06:19:17 PM
I bring it on myself.  I know that.  When obamabots troll and stalk me, I know I am on the right path.

Which path is that?  The One Of Stupidity?

Because face it, that is about the only one you have been walking on since 2008 with your nonstop whining, crying, lies, and false predictions.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Fury on May 16, 2011, 06:20:10 PM
I bring it on myself.  I know that.  When obamabots troll and stalk me, I know I am on the right path.

Keep up the good work. It's hilarious watching grown men stalk you around this board. It's even funnier watching them challenge you to real life meetings.  :D
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 06:22:00 PM
Lurker - do you want to meet me at my office or grand central station?  Are you renting a car?   Whatever works.  And ill pay for lunch.  Least I can do at this point considering you will be deleting your account.  Oh I found another thing too.  I found a certificate from the rnc for my legal work in 2004 for voter fraud monitoring.  Do you want me to post that here to give you an out beforehand? 
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 06:23:11 PM
Not quite as funny as watching him try to avoid it FOR THE SECOND TIME because he was called a fake.

Not even close to being as funny as watching his little queer buddy (meaning : you) pause in his ball washing long enough to try to defend him.

But hey... maybe it's funny just to you two.  In that case, keep it up.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 06:27:51 PM
Lurker - I'm actually looking forward to our june meeting and trying to make this go as smoothly as possible. Whatever works.   Ill tell you what - I will even give you a tour of nyc if you want.  I would offer you a ride around nyc on my jetski and around the statue of liberty but it might be construed the wrong way.  I'm totally looking forward to this. 

Shit - it will be like mario perillo tours - just in nyc by myself.  What dates will you be here again?  Maybe we can get GW and Andre to come too.   
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Fury on May 16, 2011, 06:30:05 PM
Not quite as funny as watching him try to avoid it FOR THE SECOND TIME because he was called a fake.

Not even close to being as funny as watching his little queer buddy (meaning : you) pause in his ball washing long enough to try to defend him.

But hey... maybe it's funny just to you two.  In that case, keep it up.

I couldn't care less about defending him. I'm just enjoying watching a 30-something year old man consistently stalk another man on an internet forum. It's pathetically creepy.  :)
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 06:34:28 PM
BF - its very simple. 

Obamabots HATE me for exposing the failures of the messiah.  It was not supposed to be like this!  He was supposed to have parted the seas, be the one we were all waiting for, etc.  The fact that I crack that veneer of perfection from the messiah is like kryptonite to these people.  I got it. 

Its no biggie.  As for lurker - no hard feelings as all.  Welcome to nyc.   
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Fury on May 16, 2011, 06:35:47 PM
BF - its very simple. 

Obamabots HATE me for exposing the failures of the messiah.  It was not supposed to be like this!  He was supposed to have parted the seas, be the one we were all waiting for, etc.  The fact that I crack that veneer of perfection from the messiah is like kryptonite to these people.  I got it. 

Its no biggie.  As for lurker - no hard feelings as all.  Welcome to nyc.   

It really does say a lot when they spend hour after hour trying to shoot the messenger instead of taking the grown up approach and refuting your posts. But, like you've said, it's because they're not the least bit capable of doing so and instead have to resort to thuggish tactics just like their heroes in Washington do.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 06:36:51 PM
Lurker - do you want to meet me at my office or grand central station?  Are you renting a car?   Whatever works.  And ill pay for lunch.  Least I can do at this point considering you will be deleting your account.  Oh I found another thing too.  I found a certificate from the rnc for my legal work in 2004 for voter fraud monitoring.  Do you want me to post that here to give you an out beforehand? 

All you have to do is bring your driver's license.  That is it.  Nothing else.

Once that is established, you can show anything else you want that the name matches.

I won't be renting a car because my conference is in the hotel I am staying in.  Sheraton NY 811 7th ave.  So where ever that is closer to where you will be works.  I don't know my way around so will have to have a physical address to put in my GPS or such to get to.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 06:37:30 PM
I couldn't care less about defending him. I'm just enjoying watching a 30-something year old man consistently stalk another man on an internet forum. It's pathetically creepy.  :)

Who would that be?

As stated, I am not even 30 yet.  Either you can't read or you just work very hard at appearing stupid.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Fury on May 16, 2011, 06:40:05 PM
Who would that be?

As stated, I am not even 30 yet.  Either you can't read or you just work very hard at appearing stupid.

So you're in your 20s and doing it? Well, gee golly, that changes EVERYTHING!  ::)

What a sad, creepy individual. Typical democrat thug who lacks the intellectual firepower to actually refute 333's points so he instead chooses to stalk him around the board.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 06:40:45 PM
Whatever works man.  Nyc metro area is huge and I don't want you to get lost.  Probably be easier if I meet you.

When we meet - I need a name - I don't want look at some dude and say "lurker is that you?".  Ha ha ha. 

I just wish we could get andre and gw there as well for a big laugh. 
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 06:54:34 PM
BF - its very simple. 

Obamabots HATE me for exposing the failures of the messiah.  It was not supposed to be like this!  He was supposed to have parted the seas, be the one we were all waiting for, etc.  The fact that I crack that veneer of perfection from the messiah is like kryptonite to these people.  I got it. 

Its no biggie.  As for lurker - no hard feelings as all.  Welcome to nyc.   

Who said anyone hates you?   I make fun of you because you do NOTHING but whine, cry and lie the entire time you are posting on here. Which is 24/7.  I make fun of you because you can not leave the internet alone for 5 minutes to experience real life.  Take a look how many posts you make while sitting around all alone each Friday and Saturday night.  While most people are out clubbing, socializing, hanging out or kicking it with their friends, you are sitting alone online wearing your Hello Kitty Drama Dress scouring the internet for anything to cut and paste here and justify your hatred.   How many posts did you make on Xmas and Thanksgiving?  Should I count them?  Most people sat around enjoying their families and their real lives, you sat around nonstop on the internet.  I make fun of you because when the truth is pointed out, the only thing you got to fall back on (after deflections and denials attempts have failed) are your little queer comments.  Which is hilarious that an unmarried/never been married man, with no children or a girlfriend can be goaded into exposing his queer self loathing projections so easily.  I  make fun of you because for all the trying in the world, you can not keep from failing time and time again when trying to  pass off your blind hatred in the guise of political basis here.  I make fun of you because you are just loser wrapped in his own little blanket of insecurity and paranoia.  A grown ass man preparing for the end of times with his little black duffle bags because hundreds of thousands of unemployed doctors who walked off their jobs are roaming the streets.  Who can't help but to make fun of a loser like that?

Don't worry, you SHOULD buy my lunch next month when I am there.  Me coming to NYC might be the only thing that has gotten you off the internet longer than 5 minutes in the past 3 years.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Fury on May 16, 2011, 06:55:24 PM
Now that's a fucking meltdown.

Nice work, 333.  8)
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 06:56:11 PM
So you're in your 20s and doing it? Well, gee golly, that changes EVERYTHING!  ::)

What a sad, creepy individual. Typical democrat thug who lacks the intellectual firepower to actually refute 333's points so he instead chooses to stalk him around the board.

Why refute bullshit whining posts?  Anyone expecting another person to do that has already shown his lack of intellectual firepower.  Thanks for proving what we already know about you.

Really, you should stick to fagg0ts and muslims.  You won't appear TOO stupid in that regards.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 06:56:52 PM
Friggin meltdown.   Ha ha.   
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 06:57:20 PM
Now that's a fucking meltdown.

Nice work, 333.  8)

Telling the truth = meltdown?

Well Ok.  If that works for you.  By 333 standards, telling the truth = insults.

But hey... feel free to help him refute it.  
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Fury on May 16, 2011, 06:58:09 PM
Telling the truth = meltdown?

Well Ok.  If that works for you.  By 333 standards, telling the truth = insults.

But hey... feel free to help him refute it.  

You just typed up a dissertation about why you won't bother to refute his posts and instead choose to stalk him around the board like a lost puppy dog looking for a meal.

That constitutes a meltdown.  :)
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 06:58:23 PM
Friggin meltdown.   Ha ha.   

But all truth.  That's your reality to deal with.  Not mine.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 06:59:08 PM
Lurker why not refute my nursing home thread?
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 06:59:17 PM
You just typed up a dissertation about why you won't bother to refute his posts and instead choose to stalk him around the board like a lost puppy dog looking for a meal.

That constitutes a meltdown.  :)

Umm.. no.  I explained that contrary to his previous claim that I hated him, I didn't.  I simply laughed at him.

Thanks for proving again you either can't read or just spend a lot of time practicing at being stupid.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 06:59:56 PM
But all truth.  That's your reality to deal with.  Not mine.

Have fun now.   Your account has only one month left.   
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 07:01:33 PM
Lurker why not refute my nursing home thread?

What is there to refute?  I have already posted my view of Obamacare. 
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 07:02:52 PM
Have fun now.   Your account has only one month left.   

We will see.  My account may only have month left (as if) but you on the other hand, have a lifetime of being the sad, lonely, insecure middle age loser that I described.

Want to refute that?  Since you didn't the last time I asked, I can assume we are in agreement with it.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Fury on May 16, 2011, 07:05:01 PM
Have fun now.   Your account has only one month left.   

He's the definitely the type of douche bag that will be back on here gimmicking around with 72 hours of his account being deleted. They always do.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 07:06:31 PM
He's the definitely the type of douche bag that will be back on here gimmicking around with 72 hours of his account being deleted. They always do.

It will be easy to figure out. 
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 07:07:03 PM
Instead of making more predictions that are not going to pan out for you, maybe you should help 333 refute what part of that so called "meltdown" is false.

Good luck.  You might want to have mommy help you out as I don't think you have the "firepower" to do so on your own.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 07:09:19 PM
Instead of making more predictions that are not going to pan out for you, maybe you should help 333 refute what part of that so called "meltdown" is false.

Good luck.  You might want to have mommy help you out as I don't think you have the "firepower" to do so on your own.

Just give me the date and location and this will all be over. 
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 07:09:32 PM
It will be easy to figure out. 

Not as easy as figuring you out.

Again, what part of what I said about you was false?

The middle age part?
The self loathing projections part?
The internet loser with no life, no wife, no girlfriend part?
The delusional paranoid and his little duffle bags part?

Ahhh... like I thought.  You don't want to talk about those.   Truth overcomes all.  So keep trying.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 07:12:01 PM
Just give me the date and location and this will all be over. 

Will be there evening 26th until midday 28th.  27th all day conference.

OR

Will be there evening 30th until midday July 2nd.  Conference all day July 1st.

Depending on whether I am given the Patient Billing or Medical Records conference to attend.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2011, 07:14:31 PM
Will be there evening 26th until midday 28th.  27th all day conference.

OR

Will be there evening 30th until midday July 2nd.  Conference all day July 1st.

Depending on whether I am given the Patient Billing or Medical Records conference to attend.

Done.   I'll meet you there one of those days. 
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2011, 07:29:16 PM
It will have to either evening of 26th (after 6PM after I arrive) or morning of 28th before noon (before I have to leave for airport.)  I can't do anything the day of 27th.

OR

It will have to be evening - after 6PM - of 30th or morning - before noon when I have to leave for the airport.  I can't do anything the day of the 1st.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 17, 2011, 06:26:40 AM
Escape from New York: Young Taxpayers Flee Economic Ruin
David Horowitz's NewsReal Blog ^ | May 16, 2011 | Walter Hudson


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Young workers, the lifeblood of any economy, are set to flee New York in droves.

A new Marist College poll shows that 36% of New Yorkers under the age of 30 are planning to leave New York within the next five years - and more than a quarter of all adults are planning to bolt the Empire State.

The New York City suburbs, with their high property values and taxes, are leading the exodus, the poll found.

Of those preparing to leave, 62% cite economic reasons like cost of living, taxes - and a lack of jobs.

This should surprise no one. People work to provide for themselves and otherwise pursue happiness. When fiscal policies and regulation create an environment hostile to that objective, people are going to leave. That is, if they are allowed.

The ability to vote with your feet is an essential check on state and local government. But it requires maintaining a clearly defined federalism, with strict division of powers between each level of government. New Yorkers have somewhere to flee to, because the jurisdictions of state and local government are inherently limited. It should be obvious, but the point is often lost in our national policy debates.

Before Obamacare, Massachusetts had Romneycare. Minnesota has a number of state-run healthcare programs. Several states in the union have dabbled in various socialist ventures. Yet the national outcry against such policies, seen most prominently in the Tea Party, is a relatively recent development. Why? Because nationalizing such policies removes exodus as a viable protest of last resort, raising the stakes of debate and backing dissenters into a corner. You can move from Minnesota to Texas with relative ease. Relocating to another country is much more difficult.

That's a large part of the reason our political discourse is so polarized, because we've adopted a one-size-fits-all approach to public policy whereby minorities are railroaded by the national majority. Instead, we ought to return to the libertarian live-and-let-live approach which the Founders enabled through clearly divided power. Doing so will require bold statesmen in state and local government, willing to reject funds from on high when strings are attached.

There is no better guarantor of liberty than divided power. A national government which dictates the policies of each state cannot be held in check. States free to compete for the best and brightest, even if run by dyed-in-the-wool leftists, will eventually be forced to reverse course by the inevitable consequences of their horrible policies. To get business and young workers back, they will have to lower taxes, reduce regulation, and compete to become the freest and thus most attractive state in the union.



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Wherever liberal polices are enacted - failure, debt, and misery take over and people flee. 
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Benny B on May 17, 2011, 07:27:31 AM
Why did you cry to the mods and have my post in this thread deleted, PEA BRAIN?  ::)
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 17, 2011, 07:29:19 AM
Why did you cry to the mods and have my post in this thread deleted, PEA BRAIN?  ::)

WTF are you talking about?   I never once complained about your posts.   I love having your posts up there, they expose you for the racist bathroom attendant and glorified mail room clerk you really are.   
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: MCWAY on May 17, 2011, 07:41:55 AM
Benny's posts get erased on a regular basis, because apparently he doesn't know how to follow forum rules.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Benny B on May 17, 2011, 11:08:35 AM
Benny's posts get erased on a regular basis, because apparently he doesn't know how to follow forum rules.
LOL
You are another crybaby who has cried to Ron about my posts, Mantan. It's a shame when one "talks a good game" on the boards and then cries to Ron to have Benny stop "picking on me." ::) There are no "forum rules" that I don't follow any more than you or your hero PEA BRAIN follows, you sellout.

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Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Benny B on May 17, 2011, 11:09:39 AM
WTF are you talking about?   I never once complained about your posts.   I love having your posts up there, they expose you for the racist bathroom attendant and glorified mail room clerk you really are.   
No surprise you would lie, PEA BRAIN.  ::) Pathetic little loser that you are.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 17, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
No surprise you would lie, PEA BRAIN.  ::) Pathetic little loser that you are.

Ask any of the mods - i never ask for your posts to removed.   

I find your posts to be pathetically funny and humerous.   

Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Benny B on May 17, 2011, 11:18:23 AM
Family obligations. 
::) ::)
PEA BRAIN has no job, no wife and no children. More than likely, he has no friends.  :(

The fact of the matter is, PEA BRAIN is a miserable, middle aged pathetic loser, hopeless stuck in a Yonkers/Bronx shithole. He most likely lives with his mom in the same house in which he grew up. His "family obligations" are nothing more than the fact that he has no money to leave. He expresses pride in living in Yonkers, yet has made posts saying he is desperate to leave, preferably to CT, but no one wants to by the shitty place where he lives.  ;D

PEA BRAIN probably collects a check from a long standing family business, even though he does no work. All he does is sit on the internet all day, masturbating and posting on getbig.
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Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 17, 2011, 11:19:38 AM
Benny - will you take the lurkernomore challenge and risk your account on this?

Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Benny B on May 17, 2011, 11:20:10 AM

I find your posts to be pathetically funny and humerous.   

We all find your LIFE to be pathetically funny, humorous(CORRECTLY spelled), yet also rather sad.  :-\
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 17, 2011, 11:21:38 AM
We all find your LIFE to be pathetically funny, humorous(CORRECTLY spelled), yet also rather sad.  :-\

Do me a favor - show up when I meet Lurker and I can kill two birds with one stone.   
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: MCWAY on May 17, 2011, 01:04:18 PM
LOL
You are another crybaby who has cried to Ron about my posts, Mantan. It's a shame when one "talks a good game" on the boards and then cries to Ron to have Benny stop "picking on me." ::) There are no "forum rules" that I don't follow any more than you or your hero PEA BRAIN follows, you sellout.

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Dead wrong, and woefully silly, as usual, O kneepadding one.

The last person to whom I need to complain to Ron (or any moderator) is a certified buffoon like you. In fact, I've been on this forum close to 8 years and I've complained to Ron ONCE, and that was simply to make sure people weren't posting porn on the Political forums because people sometimes post at work. Even then, I didn't single anyone out in particular.

Your picking one me has all the effect of Richard Simmons picking on Brock Lesnar. The simple fact is that I am a proud black man who didn't and doesn't mindlessly follow a pitiful poor excuse of a president, simply because of his pigmentation, unlike you and like-minded negro sheep).

You brainlessly followed this empty suit, swallowed (among other things) his "hope-and-change" crap, and now find your scrambling like the bumbling boob that you are, trying to explain why this guy has been a collosal flop and why his party just got the lips slapped off their faces 7 months ago.

I should buy stock in Kleenex now, because should the Dems (Obama included) take another trip to the political woodshed, I'm going to make a fortune off YOU and the rest of TK.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Benny B on May 18, 2011, 01:45:43 PM
Dead wrong, and woefully silly, as usual, O kneepadding one.

The last person to whom I need to complain to Ron (or any moderator) is a certified buffoon like you. In fact, I've been on this forum close to 8 years and I've complained to Ron ONCE, and that was simply to make sure people weren't posting porn on the Political forums because people sometimes post at work. Even then, I didn't single anyone out in particular.

Your picking one me has all the effect of Richard Simmons picking on Brock Lesnar. The simple fact is that I am a proud black man who didn't and doesn't mindlessly follow a pitiful poor excuse of a president, simply because of his pigmentation, unlike you and like-minded negro sheep).

You brainlessly followed this empty suit, swallowed (among other things) his "hope-and-change" crap, and now find your scrambling like the bumbling boob that you are, trying to explain why this guy has been a collosal flop and why his party just got the lips slapped off their faces 7 months ago.

I should buy stock in Kleenex now, because should the Dems (Obama included) take another trip to the political woodshed, I'm going to make a fortune off YOU and the rest of TK.
LOL @ Toby.  ::)

I would post Ron's PM on the board to completely humiliate you, but you do that to yourself every day anyway. You are nothing but a handkerchief-head wearing, chicken & biscuit-eating Uncle Tom. 
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
How original coming from the caricature of step en fetch it.  .   ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Ron on May 18, 2011, 04:08:13 PM
Do not get me involved in your petty attacks on each other. The basis of the thread is taxpayers fleeing high taxes.  Who cares what color or race you are.  The problem is for everyone.  

If it does get racist, yes, it will get deleted. We don't need to have it in a debate that attacks a whole genre.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2011, 04:46:13 PM
I admit what I am, its about time you do the same. 
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2011, 05:04:38 PM
Ha ha ha.  Ill leave it alone.   Ron already warned you.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: MCWAY on May 18, 2011, 05:05:02 PM
LOL @ Toby.  ::)

I would post Ron's PM on the board to completely humiliate you, but you do that to yourself every day anyway. You are nothing but a handkerchief-head wearing, chicken & biscuit-eating Uncle Tom.  

Go ahead. Post the PM, that I supposedly sent to Ron.

But, as Ron just demonstrated, I don't need to run to him or anyone else to deal with the likes of you.

You have been exposed as nothing more than a spineless chump, whose strength and brilliance rival soggy paper towels. Your Obama-slobbering odes have been shredded to pieces with the cold, hard facts of reality. And, since you like so many other misguided black people fell prostate to Obama, only to get your feelings hurt, because he's turned out the be the empty suit he was predicted to be.

Ron is dead on. High taxes are hurting people, especially African-Americans. And guess who's responsible for such: Crackpot liberals, such and (and including the president for whom you and a number of other black people mindlessly voted, simply because of skin color).

Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2011, 05:16:43 PM
Benny needs to wake up and smell the stench of the hope and change.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: MCWAY on May 18, 2011, 05:22:29 PM
lol
Tear-filled House Negro meltdown! I'm not reading all of your crap, handkerchief-head. ::) I'll let you continue to continue in your world of delusional boot-licking, following the lead of the most racist shit holes on getbig. When the revolution comes we're taking the sell outs like you out first.

You can't take out the trash, without your mommy holding your hand. The "revolution" will likely consist of you and like-minded (or absent-minded) folk, crying like a bunch of you-know-whats, when the Democrats (Obama included) get the taste slapped out of their mouths.....AGAIN.



Just like Malcolm said, we STILL a bunch apologizing house negroes runnin' around here.  >:(


You got mice in your pockets, or are you in front of a bunch of mirrors again?

BTW, where is this PM that I supposedly sent to Ron?
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2011, 07:08:46 PM
I want to hear more about this revolution benny is planning.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: MCWAY on May 20, 2011, 06:57:05 AM
I want to hear more about this revolution benny is planning.

I'm waiting for him to produce this PM I supposedly sent to Ron.
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2011, 07:01:57 AM
I'm waiting for him to produce this PM I supposedly sent to Ron.

I hope Benny starts his revolution in my nabe.   
Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 24, 2011, 05:56:02 AM
Why New York's future is fleeing
By FRED SIEGEL




Posted: 10:42 PM, May 23, 2011

For more than 15 years, New York state has led the country in domestic outmigration: For every American who comes here, roughly two depart for other states. This outmigration slowed briefly following the onset of the Great Recession. But a recent Marist poll suggests that the rate is likely to increase: 36 percent of New Yorkers under 30 plan to leave over the next five years. Why are all these people fleeing?

For one thing, according to a recent survey in Chief Executive, our state has the second-worst business climate in the country. (Only California ranks lower.) People go where the jobs are, so when a state repels businesses, it repels residents, too.

Indeed, the poll also found that 62 percent of New Yorkers planning to leave cited economic factors -- including cost of living (30 percent), taxes (19 percent) and the job environment (10 percent) -- as the main reason.

Upstate, a big part of the problem is extraordinarily high property taxes. New York has the country's 15 highest-taxed counties, including Nassau and Westchester, which rank Nos. 1 and 2.

Most of the property tax goes toward paying the state's Medicaid bill -- which is unlikely to diminish, since the state's most powerful lobby, the alliance of the hospital workers' union and hospital management, has gone unchallenged by our new governor, Andrew Cuomo.

New York City doesn't suffer from outmigration to the extent that the state does; in fact, the city grew slightly in the last decade, thanks to immigration from other countries.

There's also more work in Gotham than in the state as a whole. The problem is that the kind of work available shows that the city accommodates new immigrants much better than it supports middle-class aspirations. A recent report from the Drum Major Institute has the data: "The two fastest-growing industries in New York are also the lowest-paid. More than half of the city's employment growth over the past year has been in retail, hospitality and food services, all of which pay their workers less than half of the city's average wage."

Worse, more than 80 percent of the new jobs are in the city's five lowest-paying sectors.

Parts of the country are seeing a revival of manufacturing -- traditionally a source of upward mobility for immigrants -- but not New York City, where manufacturing continues to decline. The culprits here include the city's zoning policies, business taxes and decaying physical infrastructure.

Then there's the cost of living in New York City. A 2009 report by the Center for an Urban Future found that "a New Yorker would have to make $123,322 a year to have the same standard of living as someone making $50,000 in Houston. In Manhattan, a $60,000 salary is equivalent to someone making $26,092 in Atlanta." Even Queens, the report found, is the fifth most expensive urban area in the country.

The implications of Gotham's "hourglass economy" -- with all the action on the top and the bottom and not much in the middle -- are daunting.

The Drum Major report, which noted that 31 percent of the adults employed in New York work at low-wage labor, came with a political agenda. The institute wants the city to subsidize new categories of work by expanding the scope of "living-wage" laws, which require higher pay than minimum-wage laws do, to all businesses that receive city funds or contracts. But that would mean higher taxes on the middle class and a further narrowing of the hourglass' midsection.

Gov. Cuomo is calling for a property-tax cap but has postponed the question of "mandate relief" for localities -- for example, relaxing state laws that force localities to pay out exorbitant pension benefits. Mayor Bloomberg has pledged not to increase local taxes -- but even at their current level, city taxes and regulations will keep serving as an exit sign for aspiring 20-something workers.

In short, we can expect New York to lead the country in outmigration for the near future.

Fred Siegel is a contributing editor of City Journal, from whose Web site this is adapted, and a scholar in residence at St. Francis College in Brooklyn.

NEW YORK



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/why_ny_future_is_fleeing_v4535f5BZTMQJSc4maz1qL#ixzz1NH2dAbiX

Title: Re: Escape from New York - Taxpayers fleeing high taxes.
Post by: dario73 on May 24, 2011, 07:00:04 AM
I'm waiting for him to produce this PM I supposedly sent to Ron.

Once again, Benny EL PATO, is exposed as a liar.