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Does anyone else feel extremely annoyed with the dudes with the british accent on TV car shows? Everyfu.ckingwhere you turn is that annoying accent. It drives me nuts!!
WTF??
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Does anyone else feel extremely annoyed with the dudes with the british accent on TV car shows? Everyfu.ckingwhere you turn is that annoying accent. It drives me nuts!!
WTF??
Unfortunately, the best car shows come from the UK, and they give better reviews of the cars as well. Chris Harris of Evo, formerly of Autocar, is among the best, and he gets exclusives from BMW, Porsche, and Ferrari...it was him that got to drive the new M5 before it was revealed...
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top gear is the best car show ever made......
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Does anyone else feel extremely annoyed with the dudes with the british accent on TV car shows? Everyfu.ckingwhere you turn is that annoying accent. It drives me nuts!!
WTF??
???
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top gear sucks donkey cock.
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Another "annoying british accented" person doing a great review
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top gear is the best car show ever made......
problem is, it's hardly a car show anymore. it's now pure entertainment, which is fair enough i suppose.
speaking of entertainment! will you be checking out the new Geordie Shore?? (http://www.mtv.co.uk/shows/geordie-shore)
i'm gonna be spilling plenty of knuckle children over holly me thinks :-X why's that chap showing us his nipple?
(http://www.tvthrong.co.uk/files/u1985/geordie%20shore.jpg)
(http://geordieshoreonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/holly-twitter.jpg)
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Does anyone else feel extremely annoyed with the dudes with the british accent on TV car shows? Everyfu.ckingwhere you turn is that annoying accent. It drives me nuts!!
WTF??
mmmm vicki
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problem is, it's hardly a car show anymore. it's now pure entertainment, which is fair enough i suppose.
speaking of entertainment! will you be checking out the new Geordie Shore?? (http://www.mtv.co.uk/shows/geordie-shore)
i'm gonna be spilling plenty of knuckle children over holly me thinks :-X why's that chap showing us his nipple?
(http://www.tvthrong.co.uk/files/u1985/geordie%20shore.jpg)
(http://geordieshoreonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/holly-twitter.jpg)
sadly the men have better physiques than the men on Jersey Shore, but the women are about equal in the "let's look slutty" dept.
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Does anyone else feel extremely annoyed with the dudes with the british accent on TV car shows? Everyfu.ckingwhere you turn is that annoying accent. It drives me nuts!!
WTF??
Your feelings towards people from the United Kingdom are largely determined by how your Father felt about them...My Dad when he was there for World War II got on better with the natives than he did with people in his own barracks...I find that I am the same way...I have no trouble conversing with them or understanding what they are saying.
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Top gear is too much talk, and hosted by British pompous arrogant assholes.
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Top gear is too much talk, and hosted by British pompous arrogant assholes.
yup, and they fake test results.
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yup, and they fake test results.
I hate what they did to the Ferrari FXX test...due to it wearing slicks and not street tires
and of course their blind hatred for anything American
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Hey whats wrong with the British - they built an Empire you know!
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yup, and they fake test results.
Didn't know that, but one more reason not to like it.
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Top Gear is great automotive entertainment. If you want a pure trackday analysis of a car's handling there's more appropriate videos. They don't really hate American cars. Hammond has a thing for old muscle cars. Clarkson loves the Z06 and ZR-1, he even has a Ford GT. Of course they joke using the old automotive stereotypes but that's part of the show.
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Love to see one of those douchbags behind the wheel of a 1000hp+ pro street Camaro, or any high hp American V8. Their hate for American cars would run down their leg along with their own shit.
And I love how they use the term "hypercar" to shit on anything American thats really fast. Condescending dicks..
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Love to see one of those douchbags behind the wheel of a 1000hp+ pro street Camaro, or any high hp American V8. Their hate for American cars would run down their leg along with their own shit.
And I love how they use the term "hypercar" to shit on anything American thats really fast. Condescending dicks..
Hypercar is now the term for the higher echelon special Marques and one offs...also reserved for the new Lamborghini Aventador and Ferrari 599xx, GTO...you are looking at cars that do 0-60 in under 3 secs and do well over 200...and cost about half million to over 1 million. That would be the Konigsegg Agera R, Bugatti Veyron, Pagani Huarya, Ferrari FXX, 599XX, Gumpert Apollo.
These are mostly street cars, not drag cars...they perform on the street and track...and used carbonfiber like a reg car uses steel.
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Hypercar is now the term for the higher echelon special Marques and one offs...also reserved for the new Lamborghini Aventador and Ferrari 599xx, GTO...you are looking at cars that do 0-60 in under 3 secs and do well over 200...and cost about half million to over 1 million. That would be the Konigsegg Agera R, Bugatti Veyron, Pagani Huarya, Ferrari FXX, 599XX, Gumpert Apollo.
These are mostly street cars, not drag cars...they perform on the street and track...and used carbonfiber like a reg car uses steel.
Didnt Zonda have something fast enough to in that upper echelon??
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many hurt feelings in this thread... ::)
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Didnt Zonda have something fast enough to in that upper echelon??
Pagani's Zonda Cinque (only 5 made) and over a million dollars, was the road going verdin of the Zonda R, which is 1.5 million, and holds the 'Ring record for production derived cars (6:47)...it was a testbed for the Huarya...
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Yeah totally on the money, if I want a real decent car review ill just turn the station to some american garbage channel where a nigglet rapper with a 10word vocabulary list in a basketball jersy is giving an awesome review on his newly modified El-Dorado.
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Yeah totally on the money, if I want a real decent car review ill just turn the station to some american garbage channel where a nigglet rapper with a 10word vocabulary list in a basketball jersy is giving an awesome review on his newly modified El-Dorado.
There is the American version of Top Gear, plus many of the top rags do reviews as well...
And Funk Master Flex---speaking of El Dorados, knows his shit. He has cars from SS's, to Cudas, to Shelbys...
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The British are pretty annoying in general.
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pompous arrogant pricks who love to hear themselves talk
the dudes on top gear I'd case them with a baseball bat just to make them quiet
fags
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Perhaps you should stop listening to them...and at the same time, stop using the language they created.
Hope that helps.
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Perhaps you should stop listening to them...and at the same time, stop using the language they created.
Hope that helps.
Hes right though.
Every time I watch a car show with Brits on it, I cant help but want to smash their faces, the pompous arrogant pricks.
Fucking car snobs. Fuck Top Gear also, fucking snobs.
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Perhaps you should stop listening to them...and at the same time, stop using the language they created.
Hope that helps.
Anglican English actually originated / developed from German/Danish/Dutch settlers, chiefly a Germanic tribe called the Angles. Native Britains spoke a combination of Celtic and Latin dialects, of which few if any traces remain in modern English.
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Does anyone else feel extremely annoyed with the dudes with the british accent on TV car shows? Everyfu.ckingwhere you turn is that annoying accent. It drives me nuts!!
WTF??
I've only read this post. ...
fuck no! American car shows are gay as fuck. I prefer the Top Gear team or Chris Harris.
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lol @ you lot not getting top gear. ::)
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... blind hatred for anything American
Well, there is a reason for this…and it is a large part of the reason the American car industry is in dire straits. American motor vehicles (factory stock) tend to drive like a Guernsey milk cow…
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Well, there is a reason for this…and it is a large part of the reason the American car industry is in dire straits. American motor vehicles (factory stock) tend to drive like a Guernsey milk cow…
Blame Nascar...
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Blame Nascar...
NASCAR?
I think not.
Lol.
NASCAR Cup cars and engines, for the rules they are given, are comparable to F1 Cars. (To all you people who are going to freak out... FOR THE RULES THEY ARE ALLOWED TO RUN<-- that is the key phrase.)
The old NASCAR redneck stigma is long gone, that sports fans may be rednecks, but the business and tech in that racing series is strictly world class now. Thats why you see far more F1 and Indy drivers coming to NASCAR than the other way around (and you have a former F1 Champ merely a mid-pack finisher consistently.) Totally different kinds of racing, totally different skillsets. Not like people used to joke about (and it used to be) "redneck racing"
NASCAR is a totally different animal than it used to be.
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I should elaborate...by Guernsey milk cow I mean...;
- Unresponsive steering
- Unresponsive braking
- Unresponsive/awkward shifting
- too heavy
Nascar needs to put curves in the race track and make it a race course,...not just ...turn left...turn left...turn left...
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NASCAR?
I think not.
Lol.
NASCAR Cup cars and engines, for the rules they are given, are comparable to F1 Cars. (To all you people who are going to freak out... FOR THE RULES THEY ARE ALLOWED TO RUN<-- that is the key phrase.)
The old NASCAR redneck stigma is long gone, that sports fans may be rednecks, but the business and tech in that racing series is strictly world class now. Thats why you see far more F1 and Indy drivers coming to NASCAR than the other way around (and you have a former F1 Champ merely a mid-pack finisher consistently.) Totally different kinds of racing, totally different skillsets. Not like people used to joke about (and it used to be) "redneck racing"
NASCAR is a totally different animal than it used to be.
Nascar cars run about 80-200k, brakes, body, suspension shitty---still run 60s tech suspensions...
Engines, well, are the max you can do with a carberated engine...
F1 drivers are comic to Nascar for a check. Most have lost their rides or are no longer competitive in F1...they won't admit it, but if Ferrari came calling all would jump---especially Montoya, who was pissed he didn't get a Ferrari contract.
NASCAR participants do little to translate the tech to showroom like they use to---back when they really were stock cars, and you get a Ford cammer engine...F1 at least the tech does trickle down---For instance tech from Ferrari's F1 cars on it's road cars. Carbon Fiber is another technology that went from F1 to the road cars. KERS as well.
Nada for NASCAR, you want real stock car racing, look to the Germans and their DTM cars, also, Mercedes has produced DTM cars for the street---the Mercedes C63 AMG DTM and the C63 AMG Black Series...in the same vein as Dodge/ Plymouth with their Daytona/Superbird...
NASCAR is pure entertainment---that is what the France family wants to emphasis. F1 is about racing foremost, that is what Bernie is about..which why they have scrapped the 4 cylinder turbo engines in favor of the V8...
Not saying Nascar is not good, because I have personally seen NASCAR engines in police officer's cars, but you will not see a F1 engine, unless it's detuned (Ferrari F50's), in a road car...
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You've seen an 850hp mopar engine in a cop car... ???
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Nascar cars run about 80-200k, brakes, body, suspension shitty---still run 60s tech suspensions...
Engines, well, are the max you can do with a carberated engine...
F1 drivers are comic to Nascar for a check. Most have lost their rides or are no longer competitive in F1...they won't admit it, but if Ferrari came calling all would jump---especially Montoya, who was pissed he didn't get a Ferrari contract.
NASCAR participants do little to translate the tech to showroom like they use to---back when they really were stock cars, and you get a Ford cammer engine...F1 at least the tech does trickle down---For instance tech from Ferrari's F1 cars on it's road cars. Carbon Fiber is another technology that went from F1 to the road cars. KERS as well.
Nada for NASCAR, you want real stock car racing, look to the Germans and their DTM cars, also, Mercedes has produced DTM cars for the street---the Mercedes C63 AMG DTM and the C63 AMG Black Series...in the same vein as Dodge/ Plymouth with their Daytona/Superbird...
NASCAR is pure entertainment---that is what the France family wants to emphasis. F1 is about racing foremost, that is what Bernie is about..which why they have scrapped the 4 cylinder turbo engines in favor of the V8...
Not saying Nascar is not good, because I have personally seen NASCAR engines in police officer's cars, but you will not see a F1 engine, unless it's detuned (Ferrari F50's), in a road car...
Exactly my point.
NASCAR today has NOTHING to do with factory automobiles, the engines that run in those cars are as advanced technically AS THE RULES WILL ALLOW as an F1 engine, many of the cup teams get forgings for their parts from the same european companies that the F1 teams do.
Like I said, Im involved in and around the industry, and Im telling you Parker... NASCAR is world class racing now.
F1 snobs always try marginalize it and sideline it... but the fact is, Championship winning F1 drivers come to NASCAR and are barely competitive, just exactly the same as a NASCAR driving trying to get into F1. (not saying thats you).
Yeah, the engines cost around 75-100k to build, but those guys have the same R&D budget as F1 - Unlimited. And trust me, those guys dynos are going NON STOP.
JGR, Hendrick, etc, all have Dyno rooms that cost multi-millions, with climate controlled rooms feeding air into the dyno, set to exactly the same humidity and air density as the track their going to, and the motors will get throughout the RPM range matched EXACTLY to the track, simulating the corners, and how the engine will rev up and down throughout the endurance test exactly how its going to go around the track. Almost exactly the same as the Dynos used by the Euro F1 teams.
Its a matter of taste, but dont think that because its NASCAR, they dont have the same budgets and spend the same amount of cash that the F1 teams do. They just dont have the outrageous costs for engines and parts because of the wide open rules and experimental tech.
The NASCAR hate from people now largely stems from ignorance and stigma. Fact is, NASCAR racing today is some of the most competitive racing in the world, followed closely by Pro Stock Drag Racing, unlike Formula 1, where 1 guy (usually the pole sitter) generally gets out from and barring engine failure or fuckup, runs off with the race (see Sebastian Vettel*right now), and there is usually very little passing, everyone just gets in their nice little line and just tries not to fuck up. <--- See, each kind of racing has its negatives
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I should elaborate...by Guernsey milk cow I mean...;
- Unresponsive steering
- Unresponsive braking
- Unresponsive/awkward shifting
- too heavy
Nascar needs to put curves in the race track and make it a race course,...not just ...turn left...turn left...turn left...
This is just ignorance.
Circle track racing is different from road racing, just like drag racing is different from road racing, the 2 arent comparable. (see the F1 drivers that came over thinking they would dominate, only to be unable to even challenge for a top 10 points finish)
The rules are based on evolving tradition.
Different kinds of racing for different people.
People go to circle track racing to see a highly competitive race where 30 cars are running bumper to bumper at nearly 200mph.
People go to F1 racing to watch some of the most technically advanced Kart based chassis (not intended as a knock at all) running around a challengine track, trying to not screw up their line.
NASCAR = racing the other racers in tightly packed groups. (Good driver can still be competitive even with a not so great engine or chassis)
F1 = racing the track and themselves trying not make mistake. (Totally fucked if their chassis or engine isnt up to par)
Again, generalizing a lot, but its two completley different kinds of racing.
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Good assessments...and NASCAR would have automobiles every bit as exotic as F1 if the France family didn't limit the tech to keep the races close...it's a testament to the skill of the teams that they get faster every year as more and more restrictions are put in place
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Good assessments...and NASCAR would have automobiles every bit as exotic as F1 if the France family didn't limit the tech to keep the races close...it's a testament to the skill of the teams that they get faster every year as more and more restrictions are put in place
right on the money as usual.
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- Unresponsive steering
- Unresponsive braking
- Unresponsive/awkward shifting
- too heavy
This is still a valid assessment of factory stock USA Motor Vehicles.
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- Unresponsive steering
- Unresponsive braking
- Unresponsive/awkward shifting
- too heavy
This is still a valid assessment of factory stock USA Motor Vehicles.
Painting with quite the wide brush are we?
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Good assessments...and NASCAR would have automobiles every bit as exotic as F1 if the France family didn't limit the tech to keep the races close...it's a testament to the skill of the teams that they get faster every year as more and more restrictions are put in place
They do it with the excuse to keep races close, but the answer is for Entertainment...the focus more about the driver's personalities, and seem to do marketing akin to WWE...
I for one would like to see what the factories could do, if restrictions were lifted...when you have F1 teams spending 300-400 millon AND not being competitive (Toyota, Ford-Jaguar, and others), it shows you that just because you have a big budget, it doesn't mean you automatically will be placing ahead of everybody.
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Well, there is a reason for this…and it is a large part of the reason the American car industry is in dire straits. American motor vehicles (factory stock) tend to drive like a Guernsey milk cow…
Three letters Z06. ;)
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Three letters Z06. ;)
as the Brits calll it, Zed Oh Six
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top gear rules
also used to hate clarkson, but as I got older started to really appreciate the shows, all of them are great journalists, they also write outside the show, as well as many other tv stuff, the show is great entertainment, of course a lot of segments and "tests" are biased and scripted, its a "known secret"
some of their segments and adventures are pure genius, editing, presenting, timing, script. brilliant
has top gear usa started yet? I saw the 3 presenters were announced, the actor thats in rescue me, tanner foust, and a bearded guy
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top gear rules
also used to hate clarkson, but as I got older started to really appreciate the shows, all of them are great journalists, they also write outside the show, as well as many other tv stuff, the show is great entertainment, of course a lot of segments and "tests" are biased and scripted, its a "known secret"
some of their segments and adventures are pure genius, editing, presenting, timing, script. brilliant
has top gear usa started yet? I saw the 3 presenters were announced, the actor thats in rescue me, tanner foust, and a bearded guy
Yeah, season 1 for them is over, I kinda liked it...and Tanner Foust is an actual race car driver, unlike Clarkson who has alwatys been upstaged by Tiff Needell, who also was a racecar driver (F1 and Porsche 962) ...
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needell is very annoying as a presenter, but as a driver clarkson has said he is the person he admires most
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needell is very annoying as a presenter, but as a driver clarkson has said he is the person he admires most
I think the reason is, because Needell is a driver first, enthusiast 2nd...so he comes off like a nuclear scientist does to High Schoolers...
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hows the us version compared to TG uk
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hows the us version compared to TG uk
very "American", so many people don't like it...Tanner is good, but there is not the cohesiveness of TG Uk, it will gel in time...
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very "American", so many people don't like it...Tanner is good, but there is not the cohesiveness of TG Uk, it will gel in time...
yeah, I saw a few of the 1st season with may, jeremy & hammond other day, theyve come a long way
do you have a stig?
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yeah, I saw a few of the 1st season with may, jeremy & hammond other day, theyve come a long way
do you have a stig?
Yep, and the same corny introductions for "The Stig"