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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2011, 02:42:09 AM »
pompous arrogant pricks who love to hear themselves talk

the dudes on top gear I'd case them with a baseball bat just to make them quiet

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2011, 08:38:48 AM »
Perhaps you should stop listening to them...and at the same time, stop using the language they created.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2011, 09:01:35 AM »
Perhaps you should stop listening to them...and at the same time, stop using the language they created.

Hope that helps.
Hes right though.
Every time I watch a car show with Brits on it, I cant help but want to smash their faces, the pompous arrogant pricks.
Fucking car snobs. Fuck Top Gear also, fucking snobs.

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2011, 09:04:02 AM »
Perhaps you should stop listening to them...and at the same time, stop using the language they created.

Hope that helps.

Anglican English actually originated / developed from German/Danish/Dutch settlers, chiefly a Germanic tribe called the Angles.  Native Britains spoke a combination of Celtic and Latin dialects, of which few if any traces remain in modern English.

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2011, 09:30:25 AM »
Does anyone else feel extremely annoyed with the dudes with the british accent on TV car shows? Everyfu.ckingwhere you turn is that annoying accent. It drives me nuts!!

WTF??

I've only read this post. ...

fuck no! American car shows are gay as fuck. I prefer the Top Gear team or Chris Harris.

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2011, 10:27:30 AM »
lol @ you lot not getting top gear.  ::)

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2011, 02:50:22 PM »
... blind hatred for anything American

Well, there is a reason for this…and it is a large part of the reason the American car industry is in dire straits.  American motor vehicles (factory stock) tend to drive like a Guernsey milk cow…

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2011, 02:53:26 PM »
Well, there is a reason for this…and it is a large part of the reason the American car industry is in dire straits.  American motor vehicles (factory stock) tend to drive like a Guernsey milk cow…
Blame Nascar...

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2011, 03:38:57 PM »
Blame Nascar...
NASCAR?
I think not.
Lol.
NASCAR Cup cars and engines, for the rules they are given, are comparable to F1 Cars. (To all you people who are going to freak out... FOR THE RULES THEY ARE ALLOWED TO RUN<-- that is the key phrase.)

The old NASCAR redneck stigma is long gone, that sports fans may be rednecks, but the business and tech in that racing series is strictly world class now. Thats why you see far more F1 and Indy drivers coming to NASCAR than the other way around (and you have a former F1 Champ merely a mid-pack finisher consistently.) Totally different kinds of racing, totally different skillsets. Not like people used to joke about (and it used to be) "redneck racing"

NASCAR is a totally different animal than it used to be.

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2011, 03:51:38 PM »
I should elaborate...by Guernsey milk cow I mean...;
  • Unresponsive steering
  • Unresponsive braking
  • Unresponsive/awkward shifting
  • too heavy

Nascar needs to put curves in the race track and make it a race course,...not just ...turn left...turn left...turn left...

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2011, 04:17:09 PM »
NASCAR?
I think not.
Lol.
NASCAR Cup cars and engines, for the rules they are given, are comparable to F1 Cars. (To all you people who are going to freak out... FOR THE RULES THEY ARE ALLOWED TO RUN<-- that is the key phrase.)

The old NASCAR redneck stigma is long gone, that sports fans may be rednecks, but the business and tech in that racing series is strictly world class now. Thats why you see far more F1 and Indy drivers coming to NASCAR than the other way around (and you have a former F1 Champ merely a mid-pack finisher consistently.) Totally different kinds of racing, totally different skillsets. Not like people used to joke about (and it used to be) "redneck racing"

NASCAR is a totally different animal than it used to be.
Nascar cars run about 80-200k, brakes, body, suspension shitty---still run 60s tech suspensions...
Engines, well, are the max you can do with a carberated engine...
F1 drivers are comic to Nascar for a check. Most have lost their rides or are no longer competitive in F1...they won't admit it, but if Ferrari came calling all would jump---especially Montoya, who was pissed he didn't get a Ferrari contract.

NASCAR participants do  little to translate the tech to showroom like they use to---back when they really were stock cars, and you get a Ford cammer engine...F1 at least the tech does trickle down---For instance tech from Ferrari's F1 cars on it's road cars. Carbon Fiber is another technology that went from F1 to the road cars. KERS as well.

Nada for NASCAR,  you want real stock car racing, look to the Germans and their DTM cars, also, Mercedes has produced DTM cars for the street---the Mercedes C63 AMG DTM and the C63 AMG Black Series...in the same vein as Dodge/ Plymouth with their Daytona/Superbird...

NASCAR is pure entertainment---that is what the France family wants to emphasis. F1 is about racing foremost, that is what Bernie is about..which why they have scrapped the 4 cylinder turbo engines in favor of the V8...

Not saying Nascar is not good, because I have personally seen NASCAR engines in police officer's cars, but you will not see a F1 engine, unless it's detuned (Ferrari F50's), in a road car...

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2011, 06:45:17 PM »
You've seen an 850hp mopar engine in a cop car... ???

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2011, 07:20:52 PM »
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Nascar cars run about 80-200k, brakes, body, suspension shitty---still run 60s tech suspensions...
Engines, well, are the max you can do with a carberated engine...
F1 drivers are comic to Nascar for a check. Most have lost their rides or are no longer competitive in F1...they won't admit it, but if Ferrari came calling all would jump---especially Montoya, who was pissed he didn't get a Ferrari contract.

NASCAR participants do  little to translate the tech to showroom like they use to---back when they really were stock cars, and you get a Ford cammer engine...F1 at least the tech does trickle down---For instance tech from Ferrari's F1 cars on it's road cars. Carbon Fiber is another technology that went from F1 to the road cars. KERS as well.

Nada for NASCAR,  you want real stock car racing, look to the Germans and their DTM cars, also, Mercedes has produced DTM cars for the street---the Mercedes C63 AMG DTM and the C63 AMG Black Series...in the same vein as Dodge/ Plymouth with their Daytona/Superbird...

NASCAR is pure entertainment---that is what the France family wants to emphasis. F1 is about racing foremost, that is what Bernie is about..which why they have scrapped the 4 cylinder turbo engines in favor of the V8...

Not saying Nascar is not good, because I have personally seen NASCAR engines in police officer's cars, but you will not see a F1 engine, unless it's detuned (Ferrari F50's), in a road car...

Exactly my point.
NASCAR today has NOTHING to do with factory automobiles, the engines that run in those cars are as advanced technically AS THE RULES WILL ALLOW as an F1 engine, many of the cup teams get forgings for their parts from the same european companies that the F1 teams do.
Like I said, Im involved in and around the industry, and Im telling you Parker... NASCAR is world class racing now.

F1 snobs always try marginalize it and sideline it... but the fact is, Championship winning F1 drivers come to NASCAR and are barely competitive, just exactly the same as a NASCAR driving trying to get into F1. (not saying thats you).

Yeah, the engines cost around 75-100k to build, but those guys have the same R&D budget as F1 - Unlimited. And trust me, those guys dynos are going NON STOP.
JGR, Hendrick, etc, all have Dyno rooms that cost multi-millions, with climate controlled rooms feeding air into the dyno, set to exactly the same humidity and air density as the track their going to, and the motors will get throughout the RPM range matched EXACTLY to the track, simulating the corners, and how the engine will rev up and down throughout the endurance test exactly how its going to go around the track. Almost exactly the same as the Dynos used by the Euro F1 teams.

Its a matter of taste, but dont think that because its NASCAR, they dont have the same budgets and spend the same amount of cash that the F1 teams do. They just dont have the outrageous costs for engines and parts because of the wide open rules and experimental tech.

The NASCAR hate from people now largely stems from ignorance and stigma. Fact is, NASCAR racing today is some of the most competitive racing in the world, followed closely by Pro Stock Drag Racing, unlike Formula 1, where 1 guy (usually the pole sitter) generally gets out from and barring engine failure or fuckup, runs off with the race (see Sebastian Vettel*right now), and there is usually very little passing, everyone just gets in their nice little line and just tries not to fuck up.  <--- See, each kind of racing has its negatives

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2011, 07:34:49 PM »
I should elaborate...by Guernsey milk cow I mean...;
  • Unresponsive steering
  • Unresponsive braking
  • Unresponsive/awkward shifting
  • too heavy

Nascar needs to put curves in the race track and make it a race course,...not just ...turn left...turn left...turn left...
This is just ignorance.
Circle track racing is different from road racing, just like drag racing is different from road racing, the 2 arent comparable. (see the F1 drivers that came over thinking they would dominate, only to be unable to even challenge for a top 10 points finish)
The rules are based on evolving tradition.

Different kinds of racing for different people.

People go to circle track racing to see a highly competitive race where 30 cars are running bumper to bumper at nearly 200mph. 
People go to F1 racing to watch some of the most technically advanced Kart based chassis (not intended as a knock at all) running around a challengine track, trying to not screw up their line.

NASCAR = racing the other racers in tightly packed groups. (Good driver can still be competitive even with a not so great engine or chassis)
F1 = racing the track and themselves trying not make mistake. (Totally fucked if their chassis or engine isnt up to par)

Again, generalizing a lot, but its two completley different kinds of racing.

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2011, 09:39:09 PM »
Good assessments...and NASCAR would have automobiles every bit as exotic as F1 if the France family didn't limit the tech to keep the races close...it's a testament to the skill of the teams that they get faster every year as more and more restrictions are put in place

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2011, 10:22:30 PM »
Good assessments...and NASCAR would have automobiles every bit as exotic as F1 if the France family didn't limit the tech to keep the races close...it's a testament to the skill of the teams that they get faster every year as more and more restrictions are put in place

right on the money as usual.

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2011, 06:40:22 PM »
  • Unresponsive steering
  • Unresponsive braking
  • Unresponsive/awkward shifting
  • too heavy

This is still a valid assessment of factory stock USA Motor Vehicles.

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2011, 09:09:28 PM »
  • Unresponsive steering
  • Unresponsive braking
  • Unresponsive/awkward shifting
  • too heavy

This is still a valid assessment of factory stock USA Motor Vehicles.

Painting with quite the wide brush are we?

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2011, 09:40:08 PM »
Good assessments...and NASCAR would have automobiles every bit as exotic as F1 if the France family didn't limit the tech to keep the races close...it's a testament to the skill of the teams that they get faster every year as more and more restrictions are put in place
They do it with the excuse to keep races close, but the answer is for Entertainment...the focus more about the driver's personalities, and seem to do marketing akin to WWE...

I for one would like to see what the factories could do, if restrictions were lifted...when you have F1 teams spending 300-400 millon AND not being competitive (Toyota, Ford-Jaguar, and others), it shows you that just because you have a big budget, it doesn't mean you automatically will be placing ahead of everybody.

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2011, 11:38:54 PM »
Well, there is a reason for this…and it is a large part of the reason the American car industry is in dire straits.  American motor vehicles (factory stock) tend to drive like a Guernsey milk cow…
Three letters Z06.  ;)
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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2011, 12:33:20 AM »
Three letters Z06.  ;)
as the Brits calll it, Zed Oh Six

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2011, 01:02:35 AM »
top gear rules

also used to hate clarkson, but as I got older started to really appreciate the shows, all of them are great journalists, they also write outside the show, as well as many other tv stuff, the show is great entertainment, of course a lot of segments and "tests" are biased and scripted, its a "known secret"

some of their segments and adventures are pure genius, editing, presenting, timing, script. brilliant

has top gear usa started yet? I saw the 3 presenters were announced, the actor thats in rescue me, tanner foust, and a bearded guy

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2011, 01:13:38 AM »
top gear rules

also used to hate clarkson, but as I got older started to really appreciate the shows, all of them are great journalists, they also write outside the show, as well as many other tv stuff, the show is great entertainment, of course a lot of segments and "tests" are biased and scripted, its a "known secret"

some of their segments and adventures are pure genius, editing, presenting, timing, script. brilliant

has top gear usa started yet? I saw the 3 presenters were announced, the actor thats in rescue me, tanner foust, and a bearded guy
Yeah, season 1 for them is over, I kinda liked it...and Tanner Foust is an actual race car driver, unlike Clarkson who has alwatys been upstaged by Tiff Needell, who also was a racecar driver (F1 and Porsche 962) ...

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2011, 01:37:44 AM »
needell is very annoying as a presenter, but as a driver clarkson has said he is the person he admires most

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Re: Annoying british on car shows
« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2011, 02:21:14 AM »
needell is very annoying as a presenter, but as a driver clarkson has said he is the person he admires most
I think the reason is, because Needell is a driver first, enthusiast 2nd...so he comes off like a nuclear scientist does to High Schoolers...