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Title: New York Pro - Kai Greene is untouchable
Post by: Meso_z on May 28, 2011, 08:56:18 AM
According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai.. is untouchable.




Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Meso_z on May 28, 2011, 08:58:59 AM
Palumbo: KAI GREENE: 2x Arnold Classic Champ…… crazy glutes………….. ridiculous lower lat conditioning……… the show is over! No one touches KAI…..
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Meso_z on May 28, 2011, 09:02:43 AM
 :o
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Post by: wes on May 28, 2011, 09:06:08 AM
The next Mr. O right there baby!!
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Post by: Meso_z on May 28, 2011, 09:07:20 AM
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Post by: gh15 on May 28, 2011, 09:08:31 AM
yes! yes ! yes! this right here shoudl be next mr olympia,,great job with farah ! atlast great job ,,he can still fuck it up since its kai btu atleast farah show him how to do it,,good!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: gh15 on May 28, 2011, 09:09:44 AM
do you see what i mean when i say straitions on the kidnys? look closely ,,farah is listening ,,about time,,this is mr o level fella,,bravo

gh15 approved
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Shockwave on May 28, 2011, 09:10:46 AM
Dude should beat Cutler for the O with that conditioning.
Midget shitty half ass version of Ronnie Coleman

Bet hes glad he dumped that piece of shit for Farah.
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: TacoBell on May 28, 2011, 09:12:03 AM
...is untouchable.






I'm sure they just say that.  Hell its probably not even expensive, he fucked a grapefruit for goodness sake.
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on May 28, 2011, 09:21:15 AM
Damn ! Kai looks GREAT !! Woohoo !!
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Post by: Cleanest Natural on May 28, 2011, 09:32:21 AM
glittery thong ... literallly ... they are officially stepping out in gstrings

has that trademark slin look ... conditioning is officially gone
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Post by: Tito24 on May 28, 2011, 09:35:08 AM
arms look small in last picture
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Post by: Wiggs on May 28, 2011, 10:26:09 AM
What did i tell you bitches. Go back and read the posts. This is kai's year. Holy fuck he looks awesome. He actually looks grainy and his muscle looks very mature. 2011 Mr. O. Best Kai to date. Great job on bringing down the gut and waist big improvements. Legs are out of this world on rear shots.
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Post by: The RedMeatKid on May 28, 2011, 10:37:20 AM
Too bad he ain't gonna win this.
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Post by: Anglo on May 28, 2011, 10:42:59 AM



Kai nails standard  90's condition and the crowd go wild!
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Meso_z on May 28, 2011, 10:59:51 AM
CHECK THIS OUT. HE OUTMUSCLES  E V E R Y O N E. REALLY STANDS OUT.

Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Meso_z on May 28, 2011, 11:04:18 AM
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Post by: mass243 on May 28, 2011, 11:05:23 AM
OMG Kai El Greene right there baby   :o

Team Striated Kidneys  8)

Sick size! Sick back! Peace out, mothers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: old_lifter on May 28, 2011, 11:10:58 AM
maybe it's just me but his physique just doesn't flow nicely, short torso and wide waist
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Post by: Bam-bam on May 28, 2011, 11:15:45 AM
maybe it's just me but his physique just doesn't flow nicely, short torso and wide waist

no its not you, thats why he disappears from the front, not to mention the non existence of pectorials, guy will never touch cutler period.
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Post by: che on May 28, 2011, 11:34:58 AM
Buchanan vs Kai   :-\

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Post by: Mr Nobody on May 28, 2011, 11:42:30 AM
Epic lats
What you doing on bent rows now BDB? Looks like Kai has nailed it done deal.
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Post by: DeketheCreep on May 28, 2011, 11:46:04 AM
Team Kai cock is back!!!!!
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Post by: Boost on May 28, 2011, 11:51:56 AM
Cedric agrees.

Right click. Open image
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Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on May 28, 2011, 11:53:00 AM
no its not you, thats why he disappears from the front, not to mention the non existence of pectorials, guy will never touch cutler period.


I think you need to check your eyes, buddy ! Non-existent pecs my ass !! As far as the O's concerned, sheeiiitttttttt ! Kai's already got a place set in the house for the Sandow he'll be receiving this fall. The O IS HIS !!
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: French on May 28, 2011, 11:53:03 AM
Lionel Beyeke will be second !
 8)
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Boost on May 28, 2011, 11:54:42 AM
The sold out auditorium
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Post by: French on May 28, 2011, 11:55:24 AM
 8)

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Post by: Dr Dutch on May 28, 2011, 11:58:09 AM
maybe it's just me but his physique just doesn't flow nicely, short torso and wide waist
X100, plus he looks retarded with that grandma-lump of hair on his head.
He should be killed with fire.
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Boost on May 28, 2011, 12:07:09 PM
Palumbo's Keto diet in full effect

Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Meso_z on May 28, 2011, 12:08:19 PM
The sold out auditorium
rofllll............ :D
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Boost on May 28, 2011, 12:10:10 PM
Check out the arms!

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Post by: Dr Dutch on May 28, 2011, 12:11:12 PM
Check out the arms!


Did the dog take a dump on top of his head??  But yea, looks great.
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Brocty on May 28, 2011, 12:11:31 PM
The sold out auditorium

wtf, my local show gets sold out every year in a tiny town???? wtf is this shit
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: mass243 on May 28, 2011, 12:11:40 PM
Check out the arms!



Insane arms  :o

Insane bicep peak  :o

Insane Kai El Greene  ;D
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Secret Stack on May 28, 2011, 12:12:08 PM
roelly 2010 v 2011 showings.

all blow doll from within worse than heath  :o

all drugs this winklarr guy
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: mass243 on May 28, 2011, 12:13:33 PM
wtf, my local show gets sold out every year in a tiny town???? wtf is this shit

Phhhhhh.... ::)

 obviously all the people are not on their seats yet when the pic was taken. It's before the show started or after it ended
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Post by: mass243 on May 28, 2011, 12:14:48 PM
roelly 2010 v 2011 showings.

all blow doll from within worse than heath  :o

all drugs this winklarr guy

I'm disappointed in Roelly. I placed him second... and he comes far from second place shape  >:(
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 28, 2011, 12:15:16 PM
roelly 2010 v 2011 showings.

all blow doll from within worse than heath  :o

all drugs this winklarr guy
It's "mister Winklaar"..
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 28, 2011, 12:16:23 PM
I'm disappointed in Roelly. I placed him second... and he comes far from second place shape  >:(
He missed his peak... :-[ :'( :(
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Secret Stack on May 28, 2011, 12:16:47 PM
It's "mister Winklaar"..
no its "missed-it-again winklaar"!!
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Brocty on May 28, 2011, 12:20:05 PM
Phhhhhh.... ::)

 obviously all the people are not on their seats yet when the pic was taken. It's before the show started or after it ended

phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhh

if you look at the crowd, they are packed into the best seats in the house to get the best look.  Obviously the night show will be more stacked.  But for a pro show, prejudging should be more filled
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Post by: French on May 28, 2011, 12:38:39 PM
 8) 8) 8)

With more cut, top 6 at Olympia.

Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: mass243 on May 28, 2011, 12:39:30 PM
8) 8) 8)
Top 6 at Olympia.



Hahahhahaha... nice one  ;D ;D

........................ ....................... you were joking, right?
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: maxkane69 on May 28, 2011, 12:40:49 PM
Palumbo's Keto diet in full effect


Another disappointing performance from Ben White,one of the pupil of that scumbag called Dave Palumbo!
Keto Diet is an inferior diet for bodybuilding purpose!
Keto Diet will get you lean but you will lose a lot of muscle and leave flat on contest day,you will be with really low on energy during contest prep and not able to move heavy weight in your training leading to the show and beside that that clown of Palumbo prescribe insane amount of cardio : up to 3 hours a day for same of his competitor!
Dave Palumbo is failure as contest guru as he was a failure as bodybuilder when he was competing!
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: French on May 28, 2011, 12:41:26 PM
Hahahhahaha... nice one  ;D ;D

........................ ....................... you were joking, right?

Look the final result of the show. will be qualified for big O, then up the dosage ..

Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: mass243 on May 28, 2011, 12:43:20 PM
Look the final result of the show. will be qualified for big O, then up the dosage ..



Don't get me wrong. He has potential. But he is nobody and Olympia is no NY Pro !

His time will come. He probably can't even peak twice in the same year..
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Post by: notsureifsrs on May 28, 2011, 12:53:04 PM
8)


Even from that angle Kai makes Ronny look like a little skinny kid
lol his symmetry wont help here
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Post by: Primemuscle on May 28, 2011, 01:07:49 PM
Kai's posing suit fits horribly. Looks like he shit his poser.
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Post by: Mr Nobody on May 28, 2011, 01:54:11 PM
Epic lats
X2 looks jacked and tanned.
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Post by: Stavios on May 28, 2011, 02:11:31 PM
Damn Beyeke has a beautiful physique, outstanding shape for a big guy
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: maxkane69 on May 28, 2011, 02:17:50 PM
roelly 2010 v 2011 showings.

all blow doll from within worse than heath  :o

all drugs this winklarr guy

There is only one reason for the regress of Roelly Winklar : his suppliers has been selling bunk gear in recent time! ;D
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Post by: claymore on May 28, 2011, 02:48:22 PM
Damn Beyeke has a beautiful physique, outstanding shape for a big guy

This
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Post by: axestream on May 28, 2011, 03:20:42 PM
http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/348d481ca68235928273/vergleiche-new-york-pro-open-2011
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Post by: maxkane69 on May 28, 2011, 03:24:59 PM
http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/348d481ca68235928273/vergleiche-new-york-pro-open-2011

LOL! ;D
Jason Huh killing Robert Burneika!
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Post by: doison on May 28, 2011, 03:25:33 PM
team tiny traps
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 28, 2011, 04:34:05 PM
LOL! ;D
Jason Huh killing Robert Burneika!

He ain't killing nothing. If there ever was a bb who was bloofy he is it!

Burneika regressed like crazy though. Epic lasix OD. Same with Roelly. Shows how much of his "muscle" was just "bloof".



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Post by: PJim on May 28, 2011, 04:42:38 PM
Best back in bodybuilding right now.
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Post by: delta9mda on May 28, 2011, 05:27:52 PM
Insane arms  :o

Insane bicep peak  :o

Insane Kai El Greene  ;D
insane midsection. in the fdb its worse than ronnie or any other gut monster.
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: gh15 on May 28, 2011, 05:41:48 PM
He ain't killing nothing. If there ever was a bb who was bloofy he is it!

Burneika regressed like crazy though. Epic lasix OD. Same with Roelly. Shows how much of his "muscle" was just "bloof".





this fella lol ,,this fella just know bodybuild to the t! ! ! ! ! ! ! ,,everything i ever read from him is simply 100% on

gh15 approved
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: ether on May 28, 2011, 05:43:20 PM
Another disappointing performance from Ben White,one of the pupil of that scumbag called Dave Palumbo!
Keto Diet is an inferior diet for bodybuilding purpose!
Keto Diet will get you lean but you will lose a lot of muscle and leave flat on contest day,you will be with really low on energy during contest prep and not able to move heavy weight in your training leading to the show and beside that that clown of Palumbo prescribe insane amount of cardio : up to 3 hours a day for same of his competitor!
Dave Palumbo is failure as contest guru as he was a failure as bodybuilder when he was competing!


Once again Palumbowned by Farah and Rambod.

What didn't they teach how to diet for a contest in the three years of medical school he flunked out of?
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Post by: gh15 on May 28, 2011, 05:43:51 PM
There is only one reason for the regress of Roelly Winklar : his suppliers has been selling bunk gear in recent time! ;D

no the reason is because he is all gh and insulina lol ,,have you seen what he look like prior to it? local lol ,,you can nto only do well if you respond well to hormones...you also need to be able to have very good foundation from years of serious training,,you cant just blow up and come to win lol ,,very few can even in this generation

gh15 approved
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Post by: Reeves on May 28, 2011, 05:56:16 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=378374.0;attach=415204)
Impressive, especially so how he continually  manages to have a medium breed dog shit on the top of his head prior to nearly every competitive event he graces with his grapefruit scented presence.

He is impressive, just a homo in heat.  FTN.
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: abijahmaniaco on May 28, 2011, 07:02:12 PM
Dude should beat Cutler for the O with that conditioning.
Midget shitty half ass version of Ronnie Coleman

Bet hes glad he dumped that piece of shit for Farah.
lol you mean oscar? :D kai will be mr. o, but not if jay shows up in '09 condition.
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: flinstones1 on May 28, 2011, 07:09:45 PM
Once again Palumbowned by Farah and Rambod.

What didn't they teach how to diet for a contest in the three years of medical school he flunked out of?

haha so true...I've gotten down to 6 percent bf eating close to 3000 cals  a day  and 45 minutes cardio a day. I was only 200 pounds at that time too lol. No need to kill yourself to get lean. let the drugs do the work..
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Evo on May 28, 2011, 07:24:08 PM
Kai wins!

Rockel 2nd

Richardson 3rd

Beyeke 4th
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Post by: njflex on May 28, 2011, 07:37:28 PM
good for richardson,,,very good bber .dude get's in great shape yr in and out and hang's in there despite some questionable placings.
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Post by: axestream on May 28, 2011, 07:41:02 PM
good for richardson,,,very good bber .dude get's in great shape yr in and out and hang's in there despite some questionable placings.

I always get the feeling that he could be a bit better conditioning wise, but other than that good bodybuilder and seems to be a very nice guy.
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Post by: njflex on May 28, 2011, 07:47:11 PM
I always get the feeling that he could be a bit better conditioning wise, but other than that good bodybuilder and seems to be a very nice guy.
i agree,,great shape and full crazy legs top to bottom,always needed touch of tri thickness and some back pop a little shy there ,but his shape from the front shots impress..
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Meso_z on May 28, 2011, 10:39:21 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=378424.0;attach=415261;image)
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 29, 2011, 06:03:25 AM
There is only one reason for the regress of Roelly Winklar : his suppliers has been selling bunk gear in recent time! ;D
When he switches to the new Berry Demey supplements Line he'll be back !!!
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: The_Punisher on May 29, 2011, 07:14:11 AM
The sold out auditorium


I was there last night and truthfully, I did not see a lot of people waiting in line outside. I thought maybe there were more people inside until I got in........this show should have been at an earlier date other than Memorial day weekend......maybe that has something to do with the low attendance compared to last year's....it was more packed last year......I'm sure a lot of people are out of town doing their things
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 29, 2011, 08:54:00 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=378424.0;attach=415261;image)
kai looks thick there
i see hes finall hitting the Most Muscular properly
Title: Re: New York Pro - Kai Greene is untouchable
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 29, 2011, 09:24:07 AM
He has horrible symmetry. Plain and simple.
Title: Re: New York Pro - Kai Greene is untouchable
Post by: Reeves on May 29, 2011, 09:40:28 AM
He has horrible symmetry. Plain and simple.

I concur, sir.  Not quite a fireplug, but definitely a buttplug.  I can almost hear the emcee...

"Gentlemen and gentlemen, I present to you the one. The only.  Kai, "The Bung", Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ne!"

FTN.
Title: Re: New York Pro - Kai Greene is untouchable
Post by: Grenache on May 29, 2011, 03:59:02 PM
Action from 1'20 onward:
Title: Re: New York Pro - Kai Greene is untouchable
Post by: Parker on May 29, 2011, 04:05:48 PM
He has horrible symmetry. Plain and simple.
nope, his symmetry is on point...you mean his shape is  not to your liking...actually when he was lighter he had a better shape..not Flex Wheeler-sque, but decent... 
Title: Re: New York Pro - Kai Greene is untouchable
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 29, 2011, 04:11:09 PM
Action from 1'20 onward:


Yeah, HORRIBLE Mr. O right there... the Kai haters will of course ignore this...

Great guy, very humble. Will make a great Mr. O.
Title: Re: New York Pro - Kai Greene is untouchable
Post by: Boost on May 29, 2011, 04:16:16 PM
He has horrible symmetry. Plain and simple.
Symmetry= Do his right and left side match? Similar size, shape etc....

You must be talking about proportion, which I agree, his short torso is exposed in the front shots.

Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: Parker on May 29, 2011, 04:16:59 PM
lol you mean oscar? :D kai will be mr. o, but not if jay shows up in '09 condition.
Jay 09 condition was good from the front---he still had a relatively shitty back and had wrinkles in his back.. Kai's conditioning this yr beats out Jay's from 09...Jay has had Xmas come to him twice in a yr...he his the real "Gift', not Phil...
Title: Re: New York Pro - Kai Greene is untouchable
Post by: Julio Ceasar on May 29, 2011, 05:19:45 PM
Isent his abdominals and arms starting to blure togheter...He had more separation before...
Title: Re: New York Pro - Kai Greene is untouchable
Post by: the_swami on May 29, 2011, 07:28:44 PM
Kai's condition was easily better than last years O

but his gut distesion and waist has widened irreversibly

also have you notred how massive his cranium has become

Palumboism taking its toll

look @ how shit Winklar looks............thats Kai in 2-3 years
Title: Re: New York Pro - Kai Greene is untouchable
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 29, 2011, 07:42:41 PM
That's bodybuilding in a nutshell

As Kai Greene gets "better" by competition standards.... he  looks worse as far as what most of us think the ideal BBer should look like  :P
Title: Re: New York Pro - Kai Greene is untouchable
Post by: Shockwave on May 29, 2011, 07:44:47 PM
That's bodybuilding in a nutshell

As Kai Greene gets "better" by competition standards.... he  looks worse as far as what most of us think the ideal BBer should look like  :P
Yep, typical BB post 1998.
Everyone went down after 98... then went back up in 03, then nosedived.
Title: Kai Greene interview from 1999
Post by: musclecenter on May 30, 2011, 09:25:56 PM
http://www.zhongguancunculture.com/tom-venuto-gain-muscle-mass-more-less-fat.html (http://www.zhongguancunculture.com/tom-venuto-gain-muscle-mass-more-less-fat.html)

TV: What made you decide to start bodybuilding?


KG: I think it was a variety of different reasons. If I were to say if was a result of one specific influence, it would kind of be oversimplifying it. I think it was a combination of a lot of different things and I also think it was an evolutionary process. In the beginning it wasn’t bodybuilding competition that motivated me, it was just getting muscles and getting big. And certainly it has evolved for me since then. I think I’m still evolving.


TV: And how old were you when you started training?


KG: I was about twelve


TV: What was your first competition?


KG: In the beginning I competed with the ANPPC which is the All Natural Physique and Power Conference, and my first contest was the Mr. Connecticut where I won the teenage overall.


TV: How old were you then?


KG: I was about 14 or 15.


TV: How many times have you competed since then?


KG: The Team Universe was my 25th show and I like to think I am one show away from an IFBB pro card as a natural competitor.


TV: I know you’re competing in the NPC now, but you’ve also won all three pro shows in the WNBF haven’t you?


KG: Yes. I turned pro with them when I was 19. The first year as a pro I went to the world championships and I came in 9th. I came back five months later in Atlantic City and I won the 1995 Pro Men’s US cup. I was 19 years old. I sat out the rest of the year, came back the following year in 1996 and won the Pro US Cup, and then went on to make it a clean sweep by winning the Pro Mr. Universe and the World Championships.


TV: What made you switch from WNBF to the NPC and go after the Team Universe?


KG: I think it was just time to move on. I could say that there were things I didn’t like about how the WNBF was run, but you could always find reasons for disappointment with the ways any organization chooses to conduct their business. I think the primary reason I moved on from the WNBF was because it was just high time to do so. Right from the beginning, my aspirations were not to just go that far. I think that everything should be a stepping stone for something bigger and better and if there is something bigger then why not go on after it?


TV: This was your third outing at the Team Universe. In 1997 you took 2nd in the heavyweights behind Robert Washington and in 1998 you took Third behind Skip Lacour and Les Jennings. What did you do differently this year than the last two?


KG: Actually I didn't train as hard (laughs). In fact, I trained the hardest in 1998 and did the worst that year. I was getting up at 5 am and training early then coming back and training a second time and even a third time every day. Two cardios a day, high intensity, crazy workouts. I was more relaxed this year, I just let it flow. I only did 12 minutes of Stairmaster a day this year. I also ate more carbs this year. In the past I've gone zero carbs, this year I kept in some carbs right up until the day of the show


TV: Skip Lacour is considered by many people to be the best drug-free bodybuilder in the world. After placing behind him last year, how did you feel about having to posedown with him again this year?


KG: If you stop and think about going up against a guy like Skip it can be overwhelming, so you just have to concentrate on yourself. I didn't think about it, I just worked on myself.


TV: You were absolutely shredded this year, did you come in lighter than last year?


KG: I was 211 lbs. this year.


TV: What are your usual off season and pre-contest bodyweights and how tall are you?


KG: I’m 5’ 8". I competed with the WNBF at different bodyweights. As a teenager I competed at 212 for my first outing at the World Championships. Five months later I was able to come back at 220 and win the Pro US Cup. The next year I was able to come back considerably heavier. Ultimately the heaviest I’ve peaked at is 230-232. Originally in the off season at 17 years old I was weighing close to 260 with a 500 lb. bench and an 800 lb. squat. At 17 I had done 315 behind the neck. I was a very powerful kid naturally.


TV: Have you done any powerlifting?


KG: I’ve never competed in powerlifting. But my goals weren’t to be a powerlifter. My goals were to pack on size and get big, big, big.


TV: Most of the top natural bodybuilders in the world today, such as Chris Faildo, Ron Coleman, Yohnnie Shambourger, Skip Lacour, Johnny Stewart and Eddie Hernandez, to name a few, are all in their thirties or even forties. How do you think you developed so much mass and refinement at such a young age?


KG: A lot of people may attribute it just to genetics. I don’t think so. It’s been something I’ve been very focused on for a very long time. On top of that, I discovered that I had the genetics to do very well. Genetics are one thing, but you’re not talking to someone who had a lot of girlfriends and partied a lot as a kid. I would rather shy away from everyone else and go work out and get bigger. I’d go and ask the other kids if they didn’t want their milk or their bread, and spend countless hours just working out or posing. I can recall a time when I would cut school and just stay home, eat all day and go back to sleep. That’s something I think I benefited largely from. I was very, very, very focused; like someone working at a craft like singing or songwriting or a good violinist. I try to think of myself as a struggling competitor or specialist at my craft, much like a singer, dancer, comedian, or actor. So I’m struggling to do my craft and I’m continually trying to learn to do it better. I think that’s what’s really been my secret.


TV: When a natural bodybuilder reaches a certain level of development a lot of people start pointing fingers and say that the only way that person could have gotten that big is to take drugs. How do you respond when people make these accusations about you?


KG: I’d like to get to a point where I am not considered natural by myself. When I say that I mean that I don’t want to fit within the guidelines of what other people feel it is to be natural. If people feel that natural bodybuilders usually are the ones who lack legs or have poor body parts or don’t train very hard or aren’t very strong or aren’t very intense, if that’s your perception of what a natural bodybuilder is, then that’s not what I want to be. If you accuse me of being on drugs because I’m very focused on what I do, because I’m very serious, because I’m very hungry, because I can squat 800 lbs, because I can bench 500 lbs, because I can press 315 behind my neck, and if these things don’t fit under what you consider to be natural, then I don’t want to be a natural. I don’t want to be what you depict as a natural. I want to define myself for me. For me I’m natural not because somebody else believes I’m natural, I’m natural because I don’t use steroids, I don’t use growth hormone, I don’t use any of those enhancers. I’m natural in my own right because I don’t do that and not because other people accept the fact that I’m natural or not.


TV: So basically what you’re saying is that you think most people are putting limits on themselves and that by being labeled as natural they feel they can only grow to a certain point.


KG: A lot of people put a lot of restrictions on their ability to develop. And that’s fine for you if that’s what you feel your limitations are, but I think it’s wrong when you assume someone is not natural because you are imposing your limitations on someone else. However I also feel it is a tremendous compliment to a natural competitor to hear "I just don’t believe your natural," because it means you just look that good.


TV: You have a reputation for eating an enormous amount of food. A few years ago one magazine reported that you consume up to 30 chicken breasts and 16 dozen egg whites a day. Is that true?


KG: It's true, but to think that I eat all that food in a single day isn't accurate. There are times in my off season when I’m not using chicken and I’ll try to find the equivalent in egg whites as far as protein value, so it’s one or the other. But I do get kind of ridiculous sometimes. It’s not because I intend to, but understand that as a natural bodybuilder to be 5’8" and to try to compete at 226-230, we’re not talking about complying with the same standards that are set for those natural bodybuilders with the limitations I mentioned earlier: For example, "you should only eat 1 gram of protein per pound of lean bodyweight," or whatever the rule of thumb is that is suggested in all these manuals or by the end-all-be-all authorities in sports nutrition and training. If my body seems to be responding and seems to be able to use that quantity of protein without compromising my health, then I’m going to do that because I’m a competitive athlete and I’m going to do what I have to do, I just don’t do steroids. Sometimes it means you’re gonna have to do things that are just totally unorthodox. Sometimes you have to be different in order to break new ground, and I’m not scared to do that. If it's not broken I’m not going to try and fix it, if anything I’m going to try and get better.


TV: Your food bill must be astronomical!


KG: It’s pretty big.


TV: How many grams of protein do you take in each day?


KG: I don’t count it


TV: You don’t count anything?


KG: No, I just try to eat every 2 hours and that’s it.


TV: Is your overall pre-contest diet philosophy high protein, low carbs?


KG: Yes, I stay super low; even in my off season I go really low carbs. However, I’m learning how to use carbs a little bit more. My understanding about nutrition is not what I’d like it to be, so for a long time my dieting strategy was very crude. It’s only very recently that I started to accept different ideas like using vegetables and natural seasonings that don’t compromise the sodium and caloric value of the food while at the same time giving it some flavor. I’m still evolving; everybody is or at least should be in this sport.


TV: Do you use any supplements?


KG: Not unless I’m being sponsored. The truth of the matter is that I spend so much money on food, just getting the food for me is a tremendous expense, so there’s no way I could even think about paying for supplements. I think of all supplements as food derivative anyway, so If I can only choose between getting the food or the supplements I’d rather opt for the food.


TV: How much do you rely on cardio to get lean as compared to diet?


KG: I don't really believe in cardio. I train with a very high intensity, which in turn gives it an aerobic effect. I like to use anaerobic resistance type movements or exercises. I don’t believe in sitting on a Stairmaster or a bike for hours, that’s just not me. However, I believe in turning up my intensity and going through full range of motion and concentrating on complete neurological contractions. I think that is what allows me to get quality separation and hardness as opposed to sitting on the bike for an hour. That gets you lean, but there’s a big difference between being lean and being separated and being able to show quality and clarity between muscle groups.


TV: Is your training philosophy brief, high intensity, is it volume, or is it more instinctive where you just go in the gym and do whatever you feel like doing?


KG: If I were to sit down and write out my value and belief systems that dictate how I like to train, it would probably take volumes. There’s so much information that we’ve heard and we’ve read. There are volumes and libraries of information in our minds and we are continually weighing information. We hear new things, we compare it with things we’ve heard before, and we take from it what we feel is pertinent and throw away what we feel isn’t necessary. So I do a lot of thinking about my training and meditating about my craft when I’m not in the gym. Bodybuilding is my craft and because it is my craft it dictates how I live. Because it dictates how I live it’s not just what I do in the gym but it’s also an accepted lifestyle. When I get in the gym it’s all about action. I don’t have time to sit around and mark anything off in a book or question what I am going to do next. So largely while I’m on the floor I am going by how I feel, but it’s not just how I feel because I’m also continually cross referencing back and forth huge reservoirs of information that I've gathered in the 12 years that I’ve been training. So it’s really unfair to say exactly I just go by feel. But I do believe in high, high intensity. I don’t believe that there’s anytime while I’m on the floor that I should be sitting down catching my breath; that doesn’t make sense. There’s plenty of time to rest when I’m done.


TV: So you keep moving and use a lot of supersets?


KG: Absolutely


TV: Do you train to failure?


KG: Absolutely


TV: Natural bodybuilding has been growing rapidly in the past few years. Drug-free bodybuilders are now getting endorsement contracts with supplement companies and publicity in national magazines. What are your thoughts on the growth and direction of the natural movement?


KG: I think its good. I think there is a lot of awesome talent out there that hasn’t been discovered yet. Certainly if we live in a day when a drug monster can get their credit for being a drug monster then likewise we should be able to share the fruit. So if you have someone who is very good at their craft and it just so happens that they don’t take drugs, then I think they also should be rewarded with the same kind of notoriety and market value.


TV: Personally I think you are one of the best posers in the sport, professional or amateur. You do a funky, robotic, break dancing, moon-walking dance-posing routine that is absolutely incredible. Every show you enter you always get a great response from the crowd. I remember when you won the 1996 WNBF Pro Mr. Universe; the crowd went nuts and it was the only time I've ever seen a bodybuilder get a standing ovation. How do you put together such awesome routines?


KG: Again, this is my craft and this is something that I really enjoy doing. I think I have a natural feel for movement, so I’ve been blessed with that. But aside from that I think your posing and your onstage presentation is yet another piece of the craft. So anytime you get onstage to show the muscles and show the finished work, that should be looked at with the same kind of respect and appreciation. I’m glad everybody else appreciates it, but I still want to get better.


TV: You must practice for hours. Do you take dance classes or hire a choreographer?


KG: When I make a conscious effort to turn it on and try to be spectacular it doesn't happen. When I get caught up in it or try to force it just doesn't work. It flows a lot better when I'm relaxed and I just go out there and do it. The most help I've gotten is from Ian Mercer who taught me how to pose when I was a teenager. He's been watching me ever since. With the right approach a lot of things like posing can become really simple.


TV: When I saw your routine I thought I was looking at the next Russ Testo. Have you given any thought to going out on the guest posing circuit?


KG: That’s something I would love, but I still have a lot of work to do. The very first time I saw Russ Testo I was very inspired. Carla Dunlap, Russ Testo, Diana Dennis, the list can go on from there; I would like to emulate some of the qualities that I saw in their performances on stage. You pick up ideas watching people like them or sometimes you just get inspired by them to create your own ideas.


TV: What do you feel has been your greatest accomplishment so far?


KG: I haven’t had it yet. I wouldn’t say anything that I have accomplished yet, because nothing has done it for me yet. I’m very hungry and there’s still a lot to do. Rather than look at what I’ve conquered already and say "yeah, that was the greatest so far," right now I just stay hungry and keep moving forward. I’m not content. What I’ve accomplished already was good, and it was needed at the time in order for me to move on, but I’m so hungry I can’t even tell you what was, I’m concentrating on what is to be. Once I knock that down, I’ll go on to the next accomplishment until I can finally say, "that was the greatest." I can only say what it is when I'm done; and I’m not done, I have a lot of work to do.


TV: What is your Secret? What do you think is the biggest single reason for your success?


KG: Recognizing this as my craft and approaching it with the same kind of focus and discipline that an elite ballet dancer or a martial artist would approach their craft. This is my craft, this is what I do, this is what dictates how I eat, how I sleep, how I think. This is an accepted lifestyle, and I approach it with seriousness and intensity. That would be the reason or the blueprint for success for anybody for anything they’re trying to do.


TV: So what's next for Kai Greene?


KG: To win the world championships and go over there and do damage. I would like to come back to the states with my IFBB pro card as a natural competitor.


TV: Is there anything else you think our readers would want to know or is there anything else you want to add?


KG: I just want to give a really warm and special thanks to some of the people who supported me: Vinny, Victor, Gil, Debra, Danny, Wahday and Ian Mercer. Having Ian Mercer in my corner right up to being backstage made a big difference this year. He helped me relax and pointed out things I needed to work on. Without him things would have been a lot more difficult.


TV: If anyone wants you for guest posing or just wants to contact you, where can you be reached?


KG: You can reach me at 5th Avenue Gym in Brooklyn. The address is 555 5th Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11205 and the phone number is (718) 788-9441. I can also be reached at Johnny Lats Gym. The address there is 7 East 17th Street, New York, NY 10003. The number is 212-366-4426


TV: Thank you Kai, and good luck at the World Championships


KG: Thank you.

Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: abijahmaniaco on May 30, 2011, 10:36:15 PM
Jay 09 condition was good from the front---he still had a relatively shitty back and had wrinkles in his back.. Kai's conditioning this yr beats out Jay's from 09...Jay has had Xmas come to him twice in a yr...he his the real "Gift', not Phil...
jay's back is monstrous. the dude's as wide as a house. i see no wrinkles and if he had them what would you expect him to do about them? ??? what do you mean by x-mas twice a year?
Title: Kai's posing routine and interview with Farah
Post by: CC973 on May 31, 2011, 06:31:45 AM
Title: Re: NY Pro - According to the live Play by Play's by RX and MD, Kai...
Post by: axestream on May 31, 2011, 04:51:41 PM
jay's back is monstrous. the dude's as wide as a house. i see no wrinkles and if he had them what would you expect him to do about them? ??? what do you mean by x-mas twice a year?

When it comes to back width Kai can hang with Victor, so I'm pretty sure the difference between him and Jay is minimal. Kinda weird you never noticed the wrinkles in Jay's lower back. He has had them for years.