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During summertime I have trouble sleeping..I sleep maybe 6 hours BUT I wake up every hour and then go back to sleep..so I get like 4 hours of shitty sleep ed.
I feel tired as shit and im dragging myself all day.
Ive been told that I snore like a truck..so apnea might be one of the causes.
Anyway, Im gonna try some sleep drugs to get a few days of quality sleep.
What have you used?
And no I dont want advices like "dont drink liquids before sleep" or "go to the doctor". ::)
"X" drug at "X" dose. simple.
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have u tried melatonin before ? 1mg 2 hours before bed ?
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2 pills of benadryl (yes the allergy pills), shits also clear up your skin.
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what about xanax? what does it do?
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I've been a horrible sleeper my entire life, even as a child. I've for whatever reason never required that much sleep but it's often still hard to get the sleep I need. I've had success with Ambien in the past. The first time I had a script for it I took 5mg before bed and within 30min I couldn't keep my eyes open to save my life. I've got my second script for Ambien now, 5mg tabs but this time they don't seem to work as well...sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't.
The best combination I've found is 5mg of Ambien and 3 Solmalyze capsules. The Solmalyze really relaxes me and of course the Ambien gives it a boost. For whatever reason simple melatonin has never done much for me but this combo seems to work pretty well.
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what about xanax? what does it do?
It's mostly for anxiety, third best drug ever conceived after morphine and penicillin. ;)
OTC sleep remedies:
As said by tbombz and Lesaucer:
Diphenhydramine as in Benadryl 20-50 mg
Melatonin 1-3 mg
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Doxylamine succinate 10-30 mg
Phenibut, start low and work your way up 250-1500 mg
(Forget Valerian).
RX meds:
Temazepam brand name restoril 10-50 mg, my favourite since it does not interfere with REM sleep.
Zolpidem brand name Ambien 5-15 mg
Zopiclone brand name Imovane 3,75 - 10 mg
Eszopiclone brand name Lunesta 1-3 mg
Diazepam, Diapam/Valium 10-40 mg
Etiozolam 1-3 mg before bedtime.
Also Lyrica, (pregabalin) will put you to sleep, but before it does it makes you into a zombie, be careful with this one, dosages 75-300 mg for sleep and anxiety + pain relief.
Also most opioid's help you sleep and if i remember correctly you are from France and can get most anything OTC or very easily available such as Codeine and Ethylmorphine (Tussipax comprimés) also "Peter sirop" is insane if it's still available.
Just keep in mind that all of these are pretty addictive.
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Xanax for the win
Not heavy, just relaxes you,
Antianxiety benzodiazepam
No hangovers
Just does what it's supposed To do
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I also hav sleep trouble, so I take 5 tabs 10mgs zopiclone Every night and sh!t works wonder. but tabs are hella bitter
Are you saying that you take 50 mg of Zopiclone per night?! If so that's the highest i have ever heard. One thing i know for sure is that no doc would ever, under any circumstances prescribe a dose that high.
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Interestin' thread. Ever since I started my cycle a couple weeks back, I've been sleepin' like a baby, for the most part. But, some days, I still wake up at night every couple of hours. Anything I can take that won't show up on a drug test ( in my line of work I'm randomly drug-tested ) ?
Sorry to hi-jack the thread. :(
Just curious is all. If no one knows, that's cool.
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Interestin' thread. Ever since I started my cycle a couple weeks back, I've been sleepin' like a baby, for the most part. But, some days, I still wake up at night every couple of hours. Anything I can take that won't show up on a drug test ( in my line of work I'm randomly drug-tested ) ?
Sorry to hi-jack the thread. :(
Just curious is all. If no one knows, that's cool.
There's many things for that, mostly sedative antihistamines like doxylamine succinate, perfectly legal and OTC. Avoid benzos if you are tested for those and don't have a script.
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There's many things for that, mostly sedative antihistamines like doxylamine succinate, perfectly legal and OTC. Avoid benzos if you are tested for those and don't have a script.
Ty, Luolamies. You da man ! Will look into that tomorrow. :)
To be honest, I haven't slept a whole night straight thru in YEARS ! Hopefully this will do the trick. Thanks again, brotha. :)
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I am on 10 mg of Zolpidem (generic for Ambien). I do not take it every night. If I do not get good rest for 2-3 days straight I take on and sleep pretty soundly. I have a couple buddies that got hooked on the shit. I don't see the big thrill in taking it to get a buzz myself.
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Thanks guys..im going to try Zolpidem..hope it works..
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Interestin' thread. Ever since I started my cycle a couple weeks back, I've been sleepin' like a baby, for the most part. But, some days, I still wake up at night every couple of hours. Anything I can take that won't show up on a drug test ( in my line of work I'm randomly drug-tested ) ?
Sorry to hi-jack the thread. :(
Just curious is all. If no one knows, that's cool.
No problem man.
I just want to go to deep sleep knowing that I will wake up and have my breakfast after 8-9 hours..fully rested.
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1. You need two buy the Perfect bed / Mattress for you....So many people sleep on old mattresses....I get a new one like every 2 years....Sleep is too important.
2. No caffine at all during day. No sugar of food with in a few hours before bed.
3. Don't take any naps during the day.
4. try to get on a set sleep and wake up schedule, and have a set going to sleep ritual.
5Try taking a relaxing bath before bed or shower before bed.
6. don't run or do cardio with in a few hours before bed.
7. try having a warm glass of milk before bed.
8. reading makes me fall asleep...LoL...seriously ...especialy the bible
9. sleepy time tea
10. meditate using the 5-7-8 breath. I do this a few times a day even if its just 10 minutes. You can be sitting in a chair or lying on your back. You breath in deep through your nose sslowly and let your belly expand and get full as you breathe in to a count of 5....you hold it in for 7 count...then you breathe out slowly for a 8 count. No need to do any zen or budda mantras....just empty your mind and follow your breath and feel the sensation through your nose and belly...expand belly when breath comes in, and let belly get smaller while breathing out. Singers and Actors learn to breath this way. Best and most basic forms of meditation. google 5-7-8 breathe. Meditation teaches adults to live in the present like kids do, before the learn to have axieties and thoughts all the time. google 5-7-8 breathe.
11. a few hours before bed time, dim lights, or don't allow yourself to get over stimulated by light like TV or Internet.
12. The temperature of your bedroom also affects sleep. Most people sleep best in a slightly cool room (around 65° F or 18° C) with adequate ventilation. A bedroom that is too hot or too cold can interfere with quality sleep.
13. Don't watch the clock: Looking at the time in the middle of the night can breed anxiety thus making it harder to fall a sleep, so just avoid it....some people cover the clock with a cloth or something...but so you can still hear the alarm.
14. get ear plugs or ear muffs to block out distractions
15. or get those eyes masks, with the cooling pad, you keep in the freezer...very relaxing and soothing, plus it blocks out all light...I got one from the brookstone store I think its called at the mall...the one like sharper image.
16. get your life together....if you are eating right, living right, have good friends and family, straight with GOD and church, have structure and routine in your life.....and simply just do what is right...you will fall a sleep. Read books on Time Management....and get structure and routine in your life. Time Management is the secret to life and "living in the present" Practice the 5-7-8 breath. Also prayer works wonders..Ask GOD to give you a new heart, new mind, and to send you the holy spirit, to transform you into his image with his character and countance...everyday.... This prayer is the money shot! :)
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1. You need two buy the Perfect bed / Mattress for you....So many people sleep on old mattresses....I get a new one like every 2 years....Sleep is too important.
2. No caffine at all during day. No sugar of food with in a few hours before bed.
3. Don't take any naps during the day.
4. try to get on a set sleep and wake up schedule, and have a set going to sleep ritual.
5Try taking a relaxing bath before bed or shower before bed.
6. don't run or do cardio with in a few hours before bed.
7. try having a warm glass of milk before bed.
8. reading makes me fall asleep...LoL...seriously ...especialy the bible
9. sleepy time tea
10. meditate using the 5-7-8 breath. I do this a few times a day even if its just 10 minutes. You can be sitting in a chair or lying on your back. You breath in deep through your nose sslowly and let your belly expand and get full as you breathe in to a count of 5....you hold it in for 7 count...then you breathe out slowly for a 8 count. No need to do any zen or budda mantras....just empty your mind and follow your breath and feel the sensation through your nose and belly...expand belly when breath comes in, and let belly get smaller while breathing out. Singers and Actors learn to breath this way. Best and most basic forms of meditation. google 5-7-8 breathe. Meditation teaches adults to live in the present like kids do, before the learn to have axieties and thoughts all the time. google 5-7-8 breathe.
11. a few hours before bed time, dim lights, or don't allow yourself to get over stimulated by light like TV or Internet.
12. The temperature of your bedroom also affects sleep. Most people sleep best in a slightly cool room (around 65° F or 18° C) with adequate ventilation. A bedroom that is too hot or too cold can interfere with quality sleep.
13. Don't watch the clock: Looking at the time in the middle of the night can breed anxiety thus making it harder to fall a sleep, so just avoid it....some people cover the clock with a cloth or something...but so you can still hear the alarm.
14. get ear plugs or ear muffs to block out distractions
15. or get those eyes masks, with the cooling pad, you keep in the freezer...very relaxing and soothing, plus it blocks out all light...I got one from the brookstone store I think its called at the mall...the one like sharper image.
16. get your life together....if you are eating right, living right, have good friends and family, straight with GOD and church, have structure and routine in your life.....and simply just do what is right...you will fall a sleep. Read books on Time Management....and get structure and routine in your life. Time Management is the secret to life and "living in the present" Practice the 5-7-8 breath. Also prayer works wonders..Ask GOD to give you a new heart, new mind, and to send you the holy spirit, to transform you into his image with his character and countance...everyday.... This prayer is the money shot! :)
You cant be serious. ::)
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....with all do respect....you're the genius that can't fall a sleep ;D ... but yet I sleep like a baby...soooooooo you can't be serious ::)
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....with all do respect....you're the genius that can't fall a sleep ;D ... but yet I sleep like a baby...soooooooo you can't be serious ::)
I mean, the "warm milk" advice was ridiculous.
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1. You need two buy the Perfect bed / Mattress for you....So many people sleep on old mattresses....I get a new one like every 2 years....Sleep is too important.
2. No caffine at all during day. No sugar of food with in a few hours before bed.
3. Don't take any naps during the day.
4. try to get on a set sleep and wake up schedule, and have a set going to sleep ritual.
5Try taking a relaxing bath before bed or shower before bed.
6. don't run or do cardio with in a few hours before bed.
7. try having a warm glass of milk before bed.
8. reading makes me fall asleep...LoL...seriously ...especialy the bible
9. sleepy time tea
10. meditate using the 5-7-8 breath. I do this a few times a day even if its just 10 minutes. You can be sitting in a chair or lying on your back. You breath in deep through your nose sslowly and let your belly expand and get full as you breathe in to a count of 5....you hold it in for 7 count...then you breathe out slowly for a 8 count. No need to do any zen or budda mantras....just empty your mind and follow your breath and feel the sensation through your nose and belly...expand belly when breath comes in, and let belly get smaller while breathing out. Singers and Actors learn to breath this way. Best and most basic forms of meditation. google 5-7-8 breathe. Meditation teaches adults to live in the present like kids do, before the learn to have axieties and thoughts all the time. google 5-7-8 breathe.
11. a few hours before bed time, dim lights, or don't allow yourself to get over stimulated by light like TV or Internet.
12. The temperature of your bedroom also affects sleep. Most people sleep best in a slightly cool room (around 65° F or 18° C) with adequate ventilation. A bedroom that is too hot or too cold can interfere with quality sleep.
13. Don't watch the clock: Looking at the time in the middle of the night can breed anxiety thus making it harder to fall a sleep, so just avoid it....some people cover the clock with a cloth or something...but so you can still hear the alarm.
14. get ear plugs or ear muffs to block out distractions
15. or get those eyes masks, with the cooling pad, you keep in the freezer...very relaxing and soothing, plus it blocks out all light...I got one from the brookstone store I think its called at the mall...the one like sharper image.
16. get your life together....if you are eating right, living right, have good friends and family, straight with GOD and church, have structure and routine in your life.....and simply just do what is right...you will fall a sleep. Read books on Time Management....and get structure and routine in your life. Time Management is the secret to life and "living in the present" Practice the 5-7-8 breath. Also prayer works wonders..Ask GOD to give you a new heart, new mind, and to send you the holy spirit, to transform you into his image with his character and countance...everyday.... This prayer is the money shot! :)
Sounds like a GP recital.
Xanax hands down for fast acting and short half life, no lingering feeling upon waking.
0.4-1.2mg is all thats needed.
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1. You need two buy the Perfect bed / Mattress for you....So many people sleep on old mattresses....I get a new one like every 2 years....Sleep is too important.
2. No caffine at all during day. No sugar of food with in a few hours before bed.
3. Don't take any naps during the day.
4. try to get on a set sleep and wake up schedule, and have a set going to sleep ritual.
5Try taking a relaxing bath before bed or shower before bed.
6. don't run or do cardio with in a few hours before bed.
7. try having a warm glass of milk before bed.
8. reading makes me fall asleep...LoL...seriously ...especialy the bible
9. sleepy time tea
10. meditate using the 5-7-8 breath. I do this a few times a day even if its just 10 minutes. You can be sitting in a chair or lying on your back. You breath in deep through your nose sslowly and let your belly expand and get full as you breathe in to a count of 5....you hold it in for 7 count...then you breathe out slowly for a 8 count. No need to do any zen or budda mantras....just empty your mind and follow your breath and feel the sensation through your nose and belly...expand belly when breath comes in, and let belly get smaller while breathing out. Singers and Actors learn to breath this way. Best and most basic forms of meditation. google 5-7-8 breathe. Meditation teaches adults to live in the present like kids do, before the learn to have axieties and thoughts all the time. google 5-7-8 breathe.
11. a few hours before bed time, dim lights, or don't allow yourself to get over stimulated by light like TV or Internet.
12. The temperature of your bedroom also affects sleep. Most people sleep best in a slightly cool room (around 65° F or 18° C) with adequate ventilation. A bedroom that is too hot or too cold can interfere with quality sleep.
13. Don't watch the clock: Looking at the time in the middle of the night can breed anxiety thus making it harder to fall a sleep, so just avoid it....some people cover the clock with a cloth or something...but so you can still hear the alarm.
14. get ear plugs or ear muffs to block out distractions
15. or get those eyes masks, with the cooling pad, you keep in the freezer...very relaxing and soothing, plus it blocks out all light...I got one from the brookstone store I think its called at the mall...the one like sharper image.
16. get your life together....if you are eating right, living right, have good friends and family, straight with GOD and church, have structure and routine in your life.....and simply just do what is right...you will fall a sleep. Read books on Time Management....and get structure and routine in your life. Time Management is the secret to life and "living in the present" Practice the 5-7-8 breath. Also prayer works wonders..Ask GOD to give you a new heart, new mind, and to send you the holy spirit, to transform you into his image with his character and countance...everyday.... This prayer is the money shot! :)
After going through that list every night I would be so bored and wore out I would fall right to sleep. Good plan. ;)
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I've been a horrible sleeper my entire life, even as a child. I've for whatever reason never required that much sleep but it's often still hard to get the sleep I need. I've had success with Ambien in the past. The first time I had a script for it I took 5mg before bed and within 30min I couldn't keep my eyes open to save my life. I've got my second script for Ambien now, 5mg tabs but this time they don't seem to work as well...sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't.
The best combination I've found is 5mg of Ambien and 3 Solmalyze capsules. The Solmalyze really relaxes me and of course the Ambien gives it a boost. For whatever reason simple melatonin has never done much for me but this combo seems to work pretty well.
You should NOT combine Somalyze with ANY RX sleep medications let alone Ambien!
Ambien, (Zolpidem) interacts with Melatonin and also potentiates GABA both are part of Somalyze. The interactions with these three substances can be very dangerous and unpredictable. Better option would be to try and sleep few days without it so when you do use it, your tolerance has dropped a little also if that's out of the question it would be safer to simply take more of Ambien than to combine it with Somalyze.
PS. Yes i'm a "fan" of Xanax, but it will only put you to sleep if your insomnia is anxiety related, but otherwise no. Unless you have zero tolerance and/or take a shitload of it. Temazepam is weaker mg per mg, but does not interfere with your body's normal sleeping patterns.
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have u tried melatonin before ? 1mg 2 hours before bed ?
You freaking kidding me,i take 30mgs every other night.It is incredible,but 1 mg seriously.
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You should NOT combine Somalyze with ANY RX sleep medications let alone Ambien!
Ambien, (Zolpidem) interacts with Melatonin and also potentiates GABA both are part of Somalyze. The interactions with these three substances can be very dangerous and unpredictable. Better option would be to try and sleep few days without it so when you do use it, your tolerance has dropped a little also if that's out of the question it would be safer to simply take more of Ambien than to combine it with Somalyze.
PS. Yes i'm a "fan" of Xanax, but it will only put you to sleep if your insomnia is anxiety related, but otherwise no. Unless you have zero tolerance and/or take a shitload of it. Temazepam is weaker mg per mg, but does not interfere with your body's normal sleeping patterns.
Interesting, I didn't know that, thanks.
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Go wit xanax man it will really relax u and make u sleepy..my doc perscribed it because I also hav trouble sleepin at nite1
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100mg anadrol per day
stavios approved
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I take 7.5MG of Zopiclone - you WILL fall asleep on these.
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Ok fellas. I bought some xanax 0.25 I believe its the milder one.
How do I dose it? spread it 3x throughout the day or before sleep?
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Atake it 20 minutes before bed..
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Before you start taking Xanax I suggest you read some of the stories of people who had their lives ruined by the drug. It is a very easy drug to abuse and once you get addicted you will be in a bad world. Your advantage is that we are all warning you up front, so keep it in mind.
Xanax and Valium are the best meds for anxiety free sleep. My sleep problems have always been anxiety related and Valium was the best choice for me, but again you must control the drug use. Do not use it all day long, just take your dose a few mins before bed and leave it at that.
Benedryl should be tried first, it seems to knock me out most of the time but it doesn't make everyone sleepy. I remember Rimbaud and a few other people said Benedryl gave them energy.
Also, smoking a little weed does wonders as well, but depending on your living arrangements and job requirements that might not be an option.
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Before you start taking Xanax I suggest you read some of the stories of people who had their lives ruined by the drug. It is a very easy drug to abuse and once you get addicted you will be in a bad world. Your advantage is that we are all warning you up front, so keep it in mind.
Xanax and Valium are the best meds for anxiety free sleep. My sleep problems have always been anxiety related and Valium was the best choice for me, but again you must control the drug use. Do not use it all day long, just take your dose a few mins before bed and leave it at that.
Benedryl should be tried first, it seems to knock me out most of the time but it doesn't make everyone sleepy. I remember Rimbaud and a few other people said Benedryl gave them energy.
Also, smoking a little weed does wonders as well, but depending on your living arrangements and job requirements that might not be an option.
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hey thanks. :)
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Take GH. Except you'll wake every hour to piss at night, you'll otherwise be able to lay down and fall asleep on the spot.
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I wouldn't use melatonin as a sleep aid. Use it as a tool to reset your circadian rhythm. It won't do shit for putting you to sleep though unless it's the first few times you take it.
Get a good sleep pattern going and if you're not falling asleep in the first little bit, get up, do something else and go back to bed when you're ready to sleep. It's cliche, but associate your bed with nothing but sleep or banging. If you're not catching ZZZ's or smashing tail, you shouldn't be in bed.
That said, I like a bit of Benadryl before bed. It gives me the serious nods and helps with histimine. I get allergic reactions from heat and lots of other shit, so it not only keeps me from getting flushed but I pass out pretty easily. I usually take a nice relaxing puff before bed and although it doesn't make me tired, it puts me in the mood for catching ZZZ's or smashing my wife's pussy. ;D