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I've been following the writings of Massive G and I think he's the best guru out there. Especially when it comes to nutrition. Good stuff.
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ELABORATE
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I've been following the writings of Massive G and I think he's the best guru out there. Especially when it comes to nutrition. Good stuff.
Hi massive G.
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Massive G has a lot of haters due to the old Mayhem vs, getbig war days,but he has always treated me cool just like a good friend.
Knows his stuff too.
If you don`t like him,you probably don`t know him.......pretty good dude in my book.
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Does he still eat 800 grams of protein a day????
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I like his articles to but at times it seems he has an agenda such as pushing things which I cant blame the man everyone gots to make money and in the end its the consumers decision.
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Massive G has a lot of haters due to the old Mayhem vs, getbig war days,but he has always treated me cool just like a good friend.
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God, I miss those days.
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God, I miss those days.
Yes,they were the good old days of the boards!! :(
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Where does he post these days.......Professional Muscle?
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God, I miss those days.
Yup, that was funny.
Seems like an ok dude
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what was the name of that fat guy from mayhem who had glasses and looked like the rapper Fat Joe?
He was from a foreign country too- like sweden or switzerland or some shit
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what was the name of that fat guy from mayhem who had glasses and looked like the rapper Fat Joe?
He was from a foreign country too- like sweden or switzerland or some shit
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
thats that swedish dude
zone capone
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Zone was oine weird cat.....a Swedish dude who thought he was a black gang banger/rapper. ???
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Yes,they were the good old days of the boards!! :(
We'll never see times like those again, unfortunately. Man I loved just watching posts unfold, I remember the Milos Plasma debate, all those threads that were archived...I registered on the day the link was posted here, which I think was day 3 the board went public. Lots of people that were really cool but disappeared for one reason or another.
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what was the name of that fat guy from mayhem who had glasses and looked like the rapper Fat Joe?
He was from a foreign country too- like sweden or switzerland or some shit
(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/marcello.jpg)
Dude got jacked.
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Where does he post these days.......Professional Muscle?
He's on intense muscle. Unless its an imposter
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I've been following the writings of Massive G and I think he's the best guru out there. Especially when it comes to nutrition. Good stuff.
Let me get this straight. You payed your hard earned money to some fatass who sucks Dante off each night?. Did Kevin have a guru? Did gh15 have a guru? life is complicated enough no need to make this fucking "hobby" any more difficult than it needs to be. Gh15 is all you need dude...and its free.
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I would think eating 800grams of protein a day is just as dangerous as some of gh15 suggestion that has the potential to fuck you up will it prolly not will gh15 cycles prolly not
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Let me get this straight. You payed your hard earned money to some fatass who sucks Dante off each night?. Did Kevin have a guru? Did gh15 have a guru? life is complicated enough no need to make this fucking "hobby" any more difficult than it needs to be. Gh15 is all you need dude...and its free.
No reason to hate on gurus
if you are peppering to a show you will need more than what gh15 writes.
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I would think eating 800grams of protein a day is just as dangerous as some of gh15 suggestion that has the potential to fuck you up will it prolly not will gh15 cycles prolly not
No reason to hate on gurus
if you are peppering to a show you will need more than what gh15 writes.
two bullshit posts in a row
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(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/marcello.jpg)
Dude got jacked.
You'd have to mentally ill to post a picture of yourself like that. Lovely living room...
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You'd have to mentally ill to post a picture of yourself like that. Lovely living room...
The guy posted it on HugeNasser and he even wrote Nasser a love note. :-\ It was disturbing, yet hilarious and i died laughing while reading it. I thought i had seen it all till i read and seen that pic. :D I mean, it is very disturbing. I always thought Bodybuilding was about training, looking good, smashing pussy, but then you have weirdo's like that dude, and it is weird. :D :D It's the kinda pic where you can stop laughing because you know the dude is a nut. :o :o
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two bullshit posts in a row
explain my where im bullshiting...
gh15 info might get you to a decent bf and a decent size, but getting up on stage requires more.
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massive g bascially just says eat more protien basically the same principle just with protein versus drugs and where dose he think you should get this protien from? He says a lot with out saying nothing his post are prepared you can tell that by the way he starts them. I find him entertaining none the less
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No reason to hate on gurus
if you are peppering to a show you will need more than what gh15 writes.
haha tell that to Kevin . Unless you are a complete idiot who needs a mommy and daddy to give you your shots on time like Kai, a guru is a waste of money. Use that money to get you an extra 500iu of thanktropin.
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He's on intense muscle. Unless its an imposter
Man,I never felt comfortable posting there..........Skip acts like he invented the fucking barbell.
Mighty high opinion of himself.
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I worked with Massive G for a short time. The drug protocol he wrote me was insane for a guy my size so I quit. Put it this way, gh15 protocol is moderate in comparison.
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I worked with Massive G for a short time. The drug protocol he wrote me was insane for a guy my size so I quit. Put it this way, gh15 protocol is moderate in comparison.
Please elaborate. This jackass needs to be exposed for the fraud he is. I was always cool with him but he calls me a troll and a liar now, so he needs some of his own medicine. Like I asked in another thread, has anyone seen this beast of a man? Either live or pics? He claimed pretty much Tom Prince stats, over 300lbs well under 6'' tall.
He's always preaching how 600mg of test will build "gobs of muscle" on anyone and bragging how he can down pounds of roast beef in a sitting. Lots of peptipro, bromelain and Vitamin D of course is another golden nugget from him. You need to buy it from True Protein of course. And this:
http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_Details.aspx?cid=37&pid=6954
If you read his posts you get the impression all you need is a little test, and he's constantly complaining about gurus prescribing high dose cycles to competitors.
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Man,I never felt comfortable posting there..........Skip acts like he invented the fucking barbell.
Mighty high opinion of himself.
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LOL, Skip Pancake, making something simple so complicated. Secret carb loading food choises can be yours for a nice fee.
In all fairness I'm pretty sure he's admitted how he has a huge ego and bad attitude.
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LOL, Skip Pancake, making something simple so complicated. Secret carb loading food choises can be yours for a nice fee.
In all fairness I'm pretty sure he's admitted how he has a huge ego and bad attitude.
Huge ego is putting it mildly.
Van,remember the time Skip trained RockyIII for a show and Rocky listed the crap food Skip had him eat for his "skipload" (always thought skipload was a ridiculously stupid term the guy "invented") ?
Skip was pissed off bigtime and had Rocky quickly delete the info.
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Huge ego is putting it mildly.
Van,remember the time Skip trained RockyIII for a show and Rocky listed the crap food Skip had him eat for his "skipload" (always thought skipload was a ridiculously stupid term the guy "invented") ?
Skip was pissed off bigtime and had Rocky quickly delete the info.
I bet he was afraid he'd lose business. Highly sensitive proprietary info. :D
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LOL, Skip Pancake, making something simple so complicated. Secret carb loading food choises can be yours for a nice fee.
In all fairness I'm pretty sure he's admitted how he has a huge ego and bad attitude.
Who is this "skip" guy? Is this the guy who has his "clients" do his "skipload"?
In other words, have your clients binge on junk food. :D
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Who is this "skip" guy? Is this the guy who has his "clients" do his "skipload"?
In other words, have your clients binge on junk food. :D
Yeah, Ken Hill is his name.
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Please elaborate. This jackass needs to be exposed for the fraud he is. I was always cool with him but he calls me a troll and a liar now, so he needs some of his own medicine. Like I asked in another thread, has anyone seen this beast of a man? Either live or pics? He claimed pretty much Tom Prince stats, over 300lbs well under 6'' tall.
He's always preaching how 600mg of test will build "gobs of muscle" on anyone and bragging how he can down pounds of roast beef in a sitting. Lots of peptipro, bromelain and Vitamin D of course is another golden nugget from him. You need to buy it from True Protein of course. And this:
http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_Details.aspx?cid=37&pid=6954
If you read his posts you get the impression all you need is a little test, and he's constantly complainingabout gurus prescribing high dose cycles to competitors.
I'll PM you later tonight or tomorrow. He was pretty straightforward with me and treated me respectfully so I'm not going to publicly vilify him.
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Zone was oine weird cat.....a Swedish dude who thought he was a black gang banger/rapper. ???
He's better than our "Swede" .....LOL
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I'll PM you later tonight or tomorrow. He was pretty straightforward with me and treated me respectfully so I'm not going to publicly vilify him.
I understand your position. :)
Thanks, but you don't need to PM. I'm not interested in PM secrets, I'll leave that BS to that Intensemuscle crew. Not that I would betray confidences but I'd like to know if someone can tell publically they know this dude and/or can tell he recommends/uses/used much more than he lets on on the boards. I've gotten some unsolicited PMs about various gurus including this one but that shit is useless since these guys don't want to get involved publically so the BS never gets exposed.
My problem with him and Dante is that they call me an anonymous troll, and imply I'm somehow involved in this "gh15 gimmick" and/or know who it is with zero proof. I may be a lot of things but even being anonymous I don't lie... which I told them. Prove I lie and I'm gone from all the bodybuilding boards and won't be back under another handle.
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Yeah, Ken Hill is his name.
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He's better than our "Swede" .....LOL
Our swede is scared of blacks.
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Our swede is scared of blacks.
And curbs. ;D
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And curbs. ;D
It's a long walk back to the driveway ;D
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Man,I never felt comfortable posting there..........Skip acts like he invented the fucking barbell.
Mighty high opinion of himself.
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Me either. I've been doing DC for like 7 years, so I like to check it out. But I cant stand any of the posters there. They're all Dante nuthuggers. Not to take anything away from Dante, but his worshipers are pathetic.
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When I asked Massive G ::) to prove I was Gh 15 or be a man and admit he lied his answer to me was he didn't like how I posted on Getbig, trying to quickly change the subject. I guarentee he has a gimmick account on here.
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Yeah, Ken Hill is his name.
HE'S NOT EVEN IN COMPETITION SHAPE, HAS NO WIDTH. AND HE'S A PREP GURU?
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When I asked Massive G ::) to prove I was Gh 15 or be a man and admit he lied his answer to me was he didn't like how I posted on Getbig, trying to quickly change the subject. I guarentee he has a gimmick account on here.
GH15 BAGS ON TRUEPROTEIN AND DANTA A LOT SO I CAN SEE WHY THEY ACCUSE PEOPLE. WHAT WAS THAT SHIT IN THAT ONE POST OF HIS?
grass fed creatine that penetrates your ears when you sleep at night
LOL STUFF LIKE THAT MUST PISS OF THIS DANTA AND MASSIVE G CHARACTER. THIS SKIP/KEN GUY I DONT GET. HE'S AN EGOTISTICAL GUY THAT HAS THAT KIND OF BODY? HOW MUCH DOES HE CHARGE FOR LIKE 12 WEEKS?
I WAS GOING TO HIRE SOMEONE LIKE SHELBY STARNES BUT MY ONLY REAL ISSUE IS WATER RETENTION ON CYCLE. I THOUGHT SINCE IM AT A LOW DOSE IT WOULDNT BE A PROBLEM BUT I JUST BOUGHT SOME ARIMIDEX HOPEFULLY THATLL HELP. OTHERWISE IM DOING THINGS FINE, REALLY WHAT I SEE ISNT THE DIET/TRAINING. THERE'S 100 DIFFERNT WAYS TO EAT OR TRAIN, AND YOU OBVIOUSLY NEED TO SLEEP AND RECUPERATE, BUT 100 WAYS TO TRAIN/EAT....SO WHAT MAKES ANY ONE OF THEM RIGHT? ALL ARE RIGHT TECHNICALLY OR ALL ARE WRONG. ITS THE DRUG DOSAGE THAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE.
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When I asked Massive G ::) to prove I was Gh 15 or be a man and admit he lied his answer to me was he didn't like how I posted on Getbig, trying to quickly change the subject. I guarentee he has a gimmick account on here.
weren't you a "mayhem" sweetheart for a while?
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GH15 BAGS ON TRUEPROTEIN AND DANTA A LOT SO I CAN SEE WHY THEY ACCUSE PEOPLE. WHAT WAS THAT SHIT IN THAT ONE POST OF HIS?
Yeah but why accuse anyone when you have no clue. He has stated he knows for a fact who GH 15 is and my name was on the list so I told him to prove it and he couldn't.
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(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/marcello.jpg)
Dude got jacked.
Samir will really have to start his precontest diet if he wants to make the posedown at that weird masters at the end of the year..
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Yeah but why accuse anyone when you have no clue. He has stated he knows for a fact who GH 15 is and my name was on the list so I told him to prove it and he couldn't.
LOOK AT THAT QUOTE. AND LOOK AT THE WAY GH15 MAKES FUN OF HIS LOVER AND HIS LOVERS METHODS. IF SOMEONE DID SOMETHING TO UR GIRLFRIEND, UD ACCUSE ANYBODY U COULD TO.
SAME WITH MASSIVE G-DANTA AND WHAT GH15 SAYS. ITS CALLED EMOTIONAL REACTION BUT IN A WRITTEN FORM.
GRASS FED CREATINE THAT PENETRATES UR EARS AT NIGHT.
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wow... skip realy looks piss poor, he must sharpen his other pics up... ive got to say, i was intrigued by the skip load( shit load ), does anyone know the actual protocol?, there is more to it than pizzahut and doughnuts....
intense muscle is the weirdest board ive ever graced, id liken them all to hardline christians or muzlims, totally brainwashed!!!!
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IM CURIOUS TOO IF U DONT MIND. IM CURIOUS ON DOSAGES PEOPLE TAKE GIVEN THEIR SIZE.
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LOOK AT THAT QUOTE. AND LOOK AT THE WAY GH15 MAKES FUN OF HIS LOVER AND HIS LOVERS METHODS. IF SOMEONE DID SOMETHING TO UR GIRLFRIEND, UD ACCUSE ANYBODY U COULD TO.
SAME WITH MASSIVE G-DANTA AND WHAT GH15 SAYS. ITS CALLED EMOTIONAL REACTION BUT IN A WRITTEN FORM.
GRASS FED CREATINE THAT PENETRATES UR EARS AT NIGHT.
But that has nothing to do with me. I never said a word to or about him.
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wow... skip realy looks piss poor, he must sharpen his other pics up... ive got to say, i was intrigued by the skip load( shit load ), does anyone know the actual protocol?, there is more to it than pizzahut and doughnuts....
intense muscle is the weirdest board ive ever graced, id liken them all to hardline christians or muzlims, totally brainwashed!!!!
ITS JUST LIKE CARB LOADING I THINK. U EAT FAT FREE/LOW FAT CARBS(ANY) AT HIGH AMOUNTS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME DEPENDENT ON CURRENT CONDITION, WEIGH INS, APPEARANCE TIME.
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But that has nothing to do with me. I never said a word to or about him.
DESPERATE MEASURES CALL FOR IRRATIONAL BEHAVIOR.
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There is no fail safe method to carb up and hit your peak everytime. It's a crap shoot a best.
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DESPERATE MEASURES CALL FOR IRRATIONAL BEHAVIOR.
Agreed
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WHAT DID YOU SAY ? CAPS...?
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There is no fail safe method to carb up and hit your peak everytime. It's a crap shoot a best.
YEAH BUT I BET SKIP WOULD HAVE A SLIGHTLY BETTER GUESS THAN SOMEONE ELSE CONSIDERING HE DOES IT WITH OTHER PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. GOTTA CREDIT SOME EXPERIENCE. BUT WOULD I PAY FOR JUST THAT ADVICE PRETTY MUCH? LOLOLOL NEVER. ESPECIALY WHEN HE LOOKS LIKE SHIT HIMSELF.
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I'm sorry, but why would anyone take advice from a person that shows up to a contest clearly displaying a very thick film of fat/water, coupled with terrible structure and obvious weak points that need a few more years worth of work to repair?
I don't know the guy, so he might be pretty swell, but if he claims to be a guru, should he not at least take his own advice seriously?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=385567.0;attach=418097;image)
Also, as a side note, Jim/Disgusted is an excellent trainer/prep guy. Have I ever worked with him? No. But based on the miracles this man was able to perform on Kamali, I'd say he is very experienced and capable of producing amazing results for his clients.
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YEAH BUT I BET SKIP WOULD HAVE A SLIGHTLY BETTER GUESS THAN SOMEONE ELSE CONSIDERING HE DOES IT WITH OTHER PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. GOTTA CREDIT SOME EXPERIENCE. BUT WOULD I PAY FOR JUST THAT ADVICE PRETTY MUCH? LOLOLOL NEVER. ESPECIALY WHEN HE LOOKS LIKE SHIT HIMSELF.
I've been experimenting with carb loading for over 20 years and have compared notes with many "gurus" and trust me it's not an exact science. Some guys like to pretend they have a "special" protocol when it comes to contest prep and most of the time after the show they spend more time on talking about what went wrong and how next time will be different. ;D
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Also, as a side note, Jim/Disgusted is an excellent trainer/prep guy. Have I ever worked with him? No. But based on the miracles this man was able to perform on Kamali, I'd say he is very experienced and capable of producing amazing results for his clients.
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Thanks!!
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I've been experimenting with carb loading for over 20 years and have compared notes with many "gurus" and trust me it's not an exact science. Some guys like to pretend they have a "special" protocol when it comes to contest prep and most of the time after the show they spend more time on talking about what went wrong and how next time will be different. ;D
Of course. Anyone with half a brain could see that, obviously the bodybuilding scene is full of at best half-brainers. WHY they do it in the first place is beyond me, just coast in to the show a bit flatter and take no risk OR start eating the carbs earlier beforehand?
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Of course. Anyone with half a brain could see that, obviously the bodybuilding scene is full of at best half-brainers. WHY they do it in the first place is beyond me, just coast in to the show a bit flatter and take no risk OR start eating the carbs earlier beforehand?
Always chose to be on the side of being just slightly flat. I don't even like to use the word flat, but I will in this instance for lack of a better term. When you are on stage and shredded with the right amount of water in your muscles you will look big and full and never flat, but I guarantee you that if you are just slightly spilled over you will look fat on stage under those lights. I'll also guarantee that you will look freaky under the fluorescent bath room lights of your hotel room all carbed up and this is where a lot of guys make their biggest mistake.
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There is no fail safe method to carb up and hit your peak everytime. It's a crap shoot a best.
^THIS^
Always different results no matter what you do.
Top priority is being in top condition above anything else.
Best thing to do is stick to eating the foods that got you into your top condition for the last 16-20 weeks or so..........or however long it took you to prep.
Last minute "tricks" usually don`t work as well as you would have thought they would and have ruined a lot of long months of prep for a lot of people.
"Skiploading" is not a new concept at all,just a new name "invented" by Skip.........key again if you`re gonna` eat garbage is to be 4-5 % to begin with,watch the mirror,and you still may ruin everything any fucking way.
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Back when I was a mod on Mayhem there was a pic of Massive G posted there in the moderators section.............I beleive he removed it fairly quickly.
My summation of his build:
Big big guy,unshaven,tank top,very bulky,but as I said very big..........kind of like a different version of Dante`!!
Again,I always liked Massive G,still do, but I can`t go for the 300 pound offseason look that these guys sport all year `round...........it`s not bodybuilding IMO............just permabulking with lots of food and gear.
Being huge, and huge only for huges sake, and always staying in that kind of shape, just to be one of the big guys is stupid.........what`s the point,so you can look big in the grocery store in front of the uninformed masses? ???
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When I asked Massive G ::) to prove I was Gh 15 or be a man and admit he lied his answer to me was he didn't like how I posted on Getbig, trying to quickly change the subject. I guarentee he has a gimmick account on here.
It was very obvious he referred to you without actually saying it point blank. He's a bitch ass coward. I don't know if you are or know who gh15 is (very much doubt the former) but he showed no proof. Strong accusations like that require proof; like you said especially considering the subject matter in gh15's posts.
It would be very strange if you were gh15 considering how gh15 has been on your former client's ass recently... Coach "The Twister". :D
Back when I was a mod on Mayhem there was a pic of Massive G posted there in the moderators section.............I beleive he removed it fairly quickly.
My summation of his build:
Big big guy,unshaven,tank top,very bulky,but as I said very big..........kind of like a different version of Dante`!!
Again,I always liked Massive G,still do but I can`t go for the 300 pound offseason look that these guys sport all year `round...........it`s not bodybuilding IMO............just permabulking with lots of food and gear.
I'm pretty sure it's a pic that's been posted here before. Upper body, sideways arm bent showing a big hairy fat ass?
These health promoters are now dealing with side effects of their healthy bodybuilding, eating blood pressure meds, reducing their body weights despite not wanting to, just so they wont keel over, needing life long HRT therapy etc. ::)
And look at the Skiploader. Imagine the amount of gear you have shoot to build that amount scar tissue and lumps on your ass and delts.
But no, it's Buselmo, Disgusted, myself and a few others who are the "all drugs" guys, the ones who recommend drug abuse. What a joke. ::)
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QFT !!!
PS-I do believe we are talking about the same pic of Massive.
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So, is it me or is everyone (including the mods) at MM a total shithead
....I mean, even Razorripped has screwed over people from what I've heard
and don't get me started on that casa lana dora thread
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I believe Mayhem is completely offline these days.
Razor Ripped posted on MD I think.......not Mayhem.
Some good peeps,some idiots just like anywhere else.
C`mon johnny.....ya` gotta` luv da` lana tread!! ;D
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The board is gone. It died a slow death. A little too much puppies and kittens, lovey-dovey bs for me.
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Massive Gyno is a "guru" these days? What is the world coming to.
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C`mon johnny.....ya` gotta` luv da` lana tread!! ;D
that thread gave me diabetes
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that thread gave me diabetes
LMAO
she's a nice lady though
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LMAO
she's a nice lady though
She is nice but I would refer to her as Little Bo Peep. She had so many "sheep" followers it was ridiculous.
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Lana is a nice person,but the thread was sickeningly sweet,or just plain sickening.
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the worst one of the bunch is the lightheavyweight dude with the biggest ego ever... a black guy
don't remember his handle
he keeps saying he is the thickest and strongest and blablabla on praticaly no sauce, but has a banner of GEARdepot in everyone of his post haha
what's the fuckers name... can't remember it
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Always chose to be on the side of being just slightly flat. I don't even like to use the word flat, but I will in this instance for lack of a better term. When you are on stage and shredded with the right amount of water in your muscles you will look big and full and never flat, but I guarantee you that if you are just slightly spilled over you will look fat on stage under those lights. I'll also guarantee that you will look freaky under the fluorescent bath room lights of your hotel room all carbed up and this is where a lot of guys make their biggest mistake.
What do you think of the Mike Mentzer-protocol, basically the opposite of carb loading? Diet down to shredded on carbs while staying full and then do one day (the day before contest) of no carbs to drop some carb bloat while keeping (probably most of) the fullness.
To me it makes much more sense than to diet for weeks on no carbs, become flat and then trying to rectify it all in one day by overloading the carbs.
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the worst one of the bunch is the lightheavyweight dude with the biggest ego ever... a black guy
don't remember his handle
he keeps saying he is the thickest and strongest and blablabla on praticaly no sauce, but has a banner of GEARdepot in everyone of his post haha
what's the fuckers name... can't remember it
b-boy?
That dude did a complete 180 recently. Yes he was the worst of the bunch, but now... a fan of gh15, quoting his posts etc ??? :D
You can see how this pissed off a number of guys there, while most were applauding.
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/74035-some-thoughts.html
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I understand your position. :)
Thanks, but you don't need to PM. I'm not interested in PM secrets, I'll leave that BS to that Intensemuscle crew. Not that I would betray confidences but I'd like to know if someone can tell publically they know this dude and/or can tell he recommends/uses/used much more than he lets on on the boards. I've gotten some unsolicited PMs about various gurus including this one but that shit is useless since these guys don't want to get involved publically so the BS never gets exposed.
My problem with him and Dante is that they call me an anonymous troll, and imply I'm somehow involved in this "gh15 gimmick" and/or know who it is with zero proof. I may be a lot of things but even being anonymous I don't lie... which I told them. Prove I lie and I'm gone from all the bodybuilding boards and won't be back under another handle.
Ok fine. Since I respect you a ton more than Massive G, I'll disclose the contents of his advice.
First, we spoke via IM and email a number of times. At the time, although I had competed and won or placed well as a middleweight on smallish stacks and had 4-5 years of gear experience, he seemed to me very knowledgeable about the In's and Out's of BB at the upper levels. Mostly, his status as Mod led me to believe he had some of Teh Chad's knowledge and I wanted to learn it.
Anyway, my cycles prior were very simple- Usually 500-750mg of some test, 500 mg of an anabolic and 30 mg dbol, usually. Even for contest all I really did was switch dbol for winstrol. Basically cycles well under 2g's a week were normal for me.
The protocol he sent me made my head spin. It was this:
2000mg test sustanon/week
1000 mg deca/week
700mg tren ace/week
100mg dbol/day
150mg anadrol/day
6iu gh/day
can't remember igf-1 dose.
no insulin.
Obviously, this was overkill on the AAS and underkill on the GH. Now, I realize he was giving me HIS stack, or something like it.
I ran in for 4 weeks, gained about 15 lbs of edema weight, then had stomach issues. I quit it and took a lengthy break before going back to a more sane cycle.
Oh, and BTW Palumbo's cycle (also cookie cutter) was less than half of the above.
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That`s a ridiculous amount of juice............GEEZUS!!
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Massiv eGG
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For some reason I can not quote anyone so to Moen, yes that is a good way to do things. I have done things in a similar way and I have also done it with no carbs but carbed up earlier in the week and cut them out couple of days before and dropped water this way, but stayed really full.
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To Reardon, personally I would have upped your dosages 10 to 15% percent and gone from there. As far as what this idiot had you do, well I can honestly say this. There is a guy I used to train who some of you guys like to rip on, I can tell you that his dosages never even came close to 5400 mgs a week. What surprises me more than anything is how this clown hides behind posting shit like how to take creatine and Vitamin D and how drugs are not the answer and then calling guys like me a Van druggies.
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b-boy?
That dude did a complete 180 recently. Yes he was the worst of the bunch, but now... a fan of gh15, quoting his posts etc ??? :D
You can see how this pissed off a number of guys there, while most were applauding.
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/74035-some-thoughts.html
READING THROUGH HIS POSTS HE USE TO ALWAYS SAY STUFF LIKE THANK GOD FOR MY MOM AND DAD, ETC. THEN HE PUTS UP A CYCLE OF A COMPETITOR TYPE FROM GEORGE FARAH. AND THAT SHITS LIKE 3-3.5 GRAMS OF AAS + GH.
SAFE TO SAY THEY ARE ALL FUCKIN LIARS AND THAT DRUGS ARE REALLY THE TICKET. EVERYONES JUST BULLSHITTIN US TO BE HONEST.
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Ok fine. Since I respect you a ton more than Massive G, I'll disclose the contents of his advice.
First, we spoke via IM and email a number of times. At the time, although I had competed and won or placed well as a middleweight on smallish stacks and had 4-5 years of gear experience, he seemed to me very knowledgeable about the In's and Out's of BB at the upper levels. Mostly, his status as Mod led me to believe he had some of Teh Chad's knowledge and I wanted to learn it.
Anyway, my cycles prior were very simple- Usually 500-750mg of some test, 500 mg of an anabolic and 30 mg dbol, usually. Even for contest all I really did was switch dbol for winstrol. Basically cycles well under 2g's a week were normal for me.
The protocol he sent me made my head spin. It was this:
2000mg test sustanon/week
1000 mg deca/week
700mg tren ace/week
100mg dbol/day
150mg anadrol/day
6iu gh/day
can't remember igf-1 dose.
no insulin.
Obviously, this was overkill on the AAS and underkill on the GH. Now, I realize he was giving me HIS stack, or something like it.
I ran in for 4 weeks, gained about 15 lbs of edema weight, then had stomach issues. I quit it and took a lengthy break before going back to a more sane cycle.
Oh, and BTW Palumbo's cycle (also cookie cutter) was less than half of the above.
LOLOL. THANKS FOR POSTING THIS BRO CAUSE I WAS ALWAYS CURIOUS. THE DUDE IS ALL DRUGS. ALL DRUGS. TAKE AWAY THE DRUGS AND HE CANNOT CONSUME THE FOOD HE APPARENTLY POUNDS. IF HE CANNOT EAT THAT FOOD, HE CANNOT BE AS BIG.
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There was the great thread on Getbig about massive G about 3-4 years ago...A poster here claimed to have beat the shit out of him in the gym...He supposedly bitch slapped him in he gym , and all this good stuff..But sadly the thread was erased a few hours later,..
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There was the great thread on Getbig about massive G about 3-4 years ago...A poster here claimed to have beat the shit out of him in the gym...He supposedly bitch slapped him in he gym , and all this good stuff..But sadly the thread was erased a few hours later,..
......and you believe this as gospel?
C`mon bro,this is getbig where fiction and fantasy abound.
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It was very obvious he referred to you without actually saying it point blank. He's a bitch ass coward. I don't know if you are or know who gh15 is (very much doubt the former) but he showed no proof. Strong accusations like that require proof; like you said especially considering the subject matter in gh15's posts.
It would be very strange if you were gh15 considering how gh15 has been on your former client's ass recently... Coach "The Twister". :D
I'm pretty sure it's a pic that's been posted here before. Upper body, sideways arm bent showing a big hairy fat ass?
These health promoters are now dealing with side effects of their healthy bodybuilding, eating blood pressure meds, reducing their body weights despite not wanting to, just so they wont keel over, needing life long HRT therapy etc. ::)
And look at the Skiploader. Imagine the amount of gear you have shoot to build that amount scar tissue and lumps on your ass and delts.
But no, it's Buselmo, Disgusted, myself and a few others who are the "all drugs" guys, the ones who recommend drug abuse. What a joke. ::)
religion of peace ::)
LOOOOL
seriously though... I'm not one to start shit... but pay these guys money to "train" you, and you'll get the same doses they preach on the boards.... except you multiply them by 3 to 5
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To Reardon, personally I would have upped your dosages 10 to 15% percent and gone from there. As far as what this idiot had you do, well I can honestly say this. There is a guy I used to train who some of you guys like to rip on, I can tell you that his dosages never even came close to 5400 mgs a week. What surprises me more than anything is how this clown hides behind posting shit like how to take creatine and Vitamin D and how drugs are not the answer and then calling guys like me a Van druggies.
It didn't surprise me that the cycle was what it was... Meaning that some people were taking that much without being pro's. What surprised me was that I was 178 lbs at the start (very lean) and THAT is what he gave me. No way that's what I needed to grow at that size and primed state.
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It didn't surprise me that the cycle was what it was... Meaning that some people were taking that much without being pro's. What surprised me was that I was 178 lbs at the start (very lean) and THAT is what he gave me. No way that's what I needed to grow at that size and primed state.
Exactly...
YOU NEEDED EVEN MORE!!
DOUBLE THAT !
Stavios approved 8)
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Ok fine. Since I respect you a ton more than Massive G, I'll disclose the contents of his advice.
First, we spoke via IM and email a number of times. At the time, although I had competed and won or placed well as a middleweight on smallish stacks and had 4-5 years of gear experience, he seemed to me very knowledgeable about the In's and Out's of BB at the upper levels. Mostly, his status as Mod led me to believe he had some of Teh Chad's knowledge and I wanted to learn it.
Anyway, my cycles prior were very simple- Usually 500-750mg of some test, 500 mg of an anabolic and 30 mg dbol, usually. Even for contest all I really did was switch dbol for winstrol. Basically cycles well under 2g's a week were normal for me.
The protocol he sent me made my head spin. It was this:
2000mg test sustanon/week
1000 mg deca/week
700mg tren ace/week
100mg dbol/day
150mg anadrol/day
6iu gh/day
can't remember igf-1 dose.
no insulin.
Obviously, this was overkill on the AAS and underkill on the GH. Now, I realize he was giving me HIS stack, or something like it.
I ran in for 4 weeks, gained about 15 lbs of edema weight, then had stomach issues. I quit it and took a lengthy break before going back to a more sane cycle.
Oh, and BTW Palumbo's cycle (also cookie cutter) was less than half of the above.
More tren and drol needed there bro ;D
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Ok fine. Since I respect you a ton more than Massive G, I'll disclose the contents of his advice.
First, we spoke via IM and email a number of times. At the time, although I had competed and won or placed well as a middleweight on smallish stacks and had 4-5 years of gear experience, he seemed to me very knowledgeable about the In's and Out's of BB at the upper levels. Mostly, his status as Mod led me to believe he had some of Teh Chad's knowledge and I wanted to learn it.
Anyway, my cycles prior were very simple- Usually 500-750mg of some test, 500 mg of an anabolic and 30 mg dbol, usually. Even for contest all I really did was switch dbol for winstrol. Basically cycles well under 2g's a week were normal for me.
The protocol he sent me made my head spin. It was this:
2000mg test sustanon/week
1000 mg deca/week
700mg tren ace/week
100mg dbol/day
150mg anadrol/day
6iu gh/day
can't remember igf-1 dose.
no insulin.
Obviously, this was overkill on the AAS and underkill on the GH. Now, I realize he was giving me HIS stack, or something like it.
I ran in for 4 weeks, gained about 15 lbs of edema weight, then had stomach issues. I quit it and took a lengthy break before going back to a more sane cycle.
Oh, and BTW Palumbo's cycle (also cookie cutter) was less than half of the above.
LOL this is insane. If this is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, then... well, I don't know what to say really. :o
And this guy has the gall to post shit like in this thread, criticizing Brewer for taking too much, too soon, all the while having prescribed suicide stacks (slight exaggeration but clearly total overkill in your case... and as said, even gh15 would agree) to clients:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/74594-trey-brewer-latest-pictures-2.html
God only knows how much he himself pumped into his body.
You're a "real" person with pics, which adds credibility to this story, Rearden, so thanks for exposing the truth. I knew MG was full of shit but this was worse than I thought.
pay these guys money to "train" you, and you'll get the same doses they preach on the boards.... except you multiply them by 3 to 5
I just don't understand it. How do these guys' brains work? It's not just a little lie here and there but this overzealous preaching of lies and getting pissed off when someone dares to question their lies. Bodybuilding for sure contains the worst pathological liars in society.
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LOL this is insane. If this is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, then... well, I don't know what to say really. :o
And this guy has the gall to post shit like in this thread, criticizing Brewer for taking too much, too soon, all the while having prescribed suicide stacks (slight exaggeration but clearly total overkill in your case... and as said, even gh15 would agree) to clients:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/74594-trey-brewer-latest-pictures-2.html
God only knows how much he himself pumped into his body.
You're a "real" person with pics, which adds credibility to this story, Rearden, so thanks for exposing the truth. I knew MG was full of shit but this was worse than I thought.
I just don't understand it. How do these guys' brains work? It's not just a little lie here and there but this overzealous preaching of lies and getting pissed off when someone dares to question their lies. Bodybuilding for sure contains the worst pathological liars in society.
I've never lied about my use. Always been forthcoming. I even had a thread up when I was clean for 18 months and I think I looked pretty good clean too.
BTW, I'm currently 208 lbs at 9% and I'm using 300mg test, 300mg NPP, 300mg masteron, 900mg EQ and 10iu GH. Right around 2g total plus gh and I'm bigger and leaner than I've been since I rebounded after competing. Doing the higher doses of orals and test never resulted in huge growth for me, but 10iu gh/day and sane anabolic choices resulted in visible improvements by the day.
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the worst one of the bunch is the lightheavyweight dude with the biggest ego ever... a black guy
don't remember his handle
he keeps saying he is the thickest and strongest and blablabla on praticaly no sauce, but has a banner of GEARdepot in everyone of his post haha
what's the fuckers name... can't remember it
LOL that would be me....... hi hater!
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b-boy?
That dude did a complete 180 recently. Yes he was the worst of the bunch, but now... a fan of gh15, quoting his posts etc ??? :D
You can see how this pissed off a number of guys there, while most were applauding.
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/74035-some-thoughts.html
everyone walks around in the dark for a while before finally finding the light! :)
whats up bro? you confuse me with the different handle here. LOL
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LOL this is insane. If this is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, then... well, I don't know what to say really. :o
And this guy has the gall to post shit like in this thread, criticizing Brewer for taking too much, too soon, all the while having prescribed suicide stacks (slight exaggeration but clearly total overkill in your case... and as said, even gh15 would agree) to clients:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/74594-trey-brewer-latest-pictures-2.html
God only knows how much he himself pumped into his body.
You're a "real" person with pics, which adds credibility to this story, Rearden, so thanks for exposing the truth. I knew MG was full of shit but this was worse than I thought.
I just don't understand it. How do these guys' brains work? It's not just a little lie here and there but this overzealous preaching of lies and getting pissed off when someone dares to question their lies. Bodybuilding for sure contains the worst pathological liars in society.
I totally 100% convinced that he purposely lies just to people on the boards just because he gets a kick out of seeing how many people will listen to him, I'm being serious. Then him and his buddies probably laugh their asses off about it later and to give Reardon that cycle is another joke. He was totally experimenting on the kid just to see what would happen at dosages he probable would not use himself. I am willing to bet if someone called him on the carpet about that cycle he would deny it to the end.
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I totally 100% convinced that he purposely lies just to people on the boards just because he gets a kick out of seeing how many people will listen to him, I'm being serious. Then him and his buddies probably laugh their asses off about it later and to give Reardon that cycle is another joke. He was totally experimenting on the kid just to see what would happen at dosages he probable would not use himself. I am willing to bet if someone called him on the carpet about that cycle he would deny it to the end.
Probably. The thing is is that he was very likeable when we chatted and intelligent enough for me to believe that he had the inner circle info on guys who are heavyweights and pro's who were coming up.
4 weeks on the cycle and I knew it was bullshit. Although I did see benefits of the gh that I ran for a month or two after (and really liked the igf but never tried it again).
He gave me a cycle for a 240lb guy who wanted to be 260lbs. That's basically it. And he messed up, because the gh shoulda been 15iu, not 6.
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Probably. The thing is is that he was very likeable when we chatted and intelligent enough for me to believe that he had the inner circle info on guys who are heavyweights and pro's who were coming up.
4 weeks on the cycle and I knew it was bullshit. Although I did see benefits of the gh that I ran for a month or two after (and really liked the igf but never tried it again).
He gave me a cycle for a 240lb guy who wanted to be 260lbs. That's basically it. And he messed up, because the gh shoulda been 15iu, not 6.
Everything that you just said especially about the drug use is spot on. He likes to pretend he works with top guys, but I would bet money he never has. I have worked with top guys before and I have never worked with anyone who has used 5400 mgs a week. As far as GH goes, unless you can afford to use at least 10 ius daily then don't bother. That's not written in stone, maybe 8 is OK but not much less, 5 would give you some fat loss but I personally do not think that the cost to fatloss ratio is worth it.
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Everything that you just said especially about the drug use is spot on. He likes to pretend he works with top guys, but I would bet money he never has. I have worked with top guys before and I have never worked with anyone who has used 5400 mgs a week. As far as GH goes, unless you can afford to use at least 10 ius daily then don't bother. That's not written in stone, maybe 8 is OK but not much less, 5 would give you some fat loss but I personally do not think that the cost to fatloss ratio is worth it.
The difference between 4iu and 10iu is VAST. At 4iu, I had no noticeable weight gain, but my skin looked better and my nails grew fast. Some carpal tunnel so I knew it was working at least. At 10iu, I grew 8 lbs in a week while maintaining my condition, then in the next week started eating tons of junky food so I wouldn't disappear while maintaining a 24/7 pump and veins like a cock popping up everywhere. This weekend I ate Wendy's, Ice Cream, a large pizza, box of oreos, BBQ chicken with pasta salad, eggs with sausage, about 10 muscle milks, beef jerky, pretzels and 3-4 banana's, yogurt.... All in 2 days. Woke up this AM exactly the same weight as on Friday AM in the same condition.
gh is insane.
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The difference between 4iu and 10iu is VAST. At 4iu, I had no noticeable weight gain, but my skin looked better and my nails grew fast. Some carpal tunnel so I knew it was working at least. At 10iu, I grew 8 lbs in a week while maintaining my condition, then in the next week started eating tons of junky food so I wouldn't disappear while maintaining a 24/7 pump and veins like a cock popping up everywhere. This weekend I ate Wendy's, Ice Cream, a large pizza, box of oreos, BBQ chicken with pasta salad, eggs with sausage, about 10 muscle milks, beef jerky, pretzels and 3-4 banana's, yogurt.... All in 2 days. Woke up this AM exactly the same weight as on Friday AM in the same condition.
gh is insane.
Forgot the Subway footlong and two large Starbucks Frappacino's. Oh, and I took a break from training too.
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......and you believe this as gospel?
C`mon bro,this is getbig where fiction and fantasy abound.
That's why i said claimed Wes.. :'(
It was a Funny thread..It disappeared for reasons unknown..Perhaps Massive G complained to Ron?
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LOL that would be me....... hi hater!
I'm not a hater, you do have a great physique
but you do have the biggest ego I have ever seen along with Skip ;D
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I'm not a hater, you do have a great physique
but you do have the biggest ego I have ever seen along with Skip ;D
yes a HUGE ego, thats why i help anyone that wants it "for free" I DON'T CHARGE TO TELL SOMEONE HOW TO TAKE DRUGS AND HOW TO EAT CHICKEN BREAST... yes i have a huge ego ::) I just don't like to argue about bodybuilding with guys that are as big as round as the base of my penis thats all.
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That's why i said claimed Wes.. :'(
It was a Funny thread..It disappeared for reasons unknown..Perhaps Massive G complained to Ron?
I got ya` bro. :)
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yes a HUGE ego, thats why i help anyone that wants it "for free" I DON'T CHARGE TO TELL SOMEONE HOW TO TAKE DRUGS AND HOW TO EAT CHICKEN BREAST... yes i have a huge ego ::) I just don't like to argue about bodybuilding with guys that are as big as round as the base of my penis thats all.
I understand about the "not wanting to argue" point but I think you end up arguing even more when you do that
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The difference between 4iu and 10iu is VAST. At 4iu, I had no noticeable weight gain, but my skin looked better and my nails grew fast. Some carpal tunnel so I knew it was working at least. At 10iu, I grew 8 lbs in a week while maintaining my condition, then in the next week started eating tons of junky food so I wouldn't disappear while maintaining a 24/7 pump and veins like a cock popping up everywhere. This weekend I ate Wendy's, Ice Cream, a large pizza, box of oreos, BBQ chicken with pasta salad, eggs with sausage, about 10 muscle milks, beef jerky, pretzels and 3-4 banana's, yogurt.... All in 2 days. Woke up this AM exactly the same weight as on Friday AM in the same condition.
gh is insane.
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God damn that sounds good. Wish I had the money? Are you using real good pharm grade or generic?
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The difference between 4iu and 10iu is VAST. At 4iu, I had no noticeable weight gain, but my skin looked better and my nails grew fast. Some carpal tunnel so I knew it was working at least. At 10iu, I grew 8 lbs in a week while maintaining my condition, then in the next week started eating tons of junky food so I wouldn't disappear while maintaining a 24/7 pump and veins like a cock popping up everywhere. This weekend I ate Wendy's, Ice Cream, a large pizza, box of oreos, BBQ chicken with pasta salad, eggs with sausage, about 10 muscle milks, beef jerky, pretzels and 3-4 banana's, yogurt.... All in 2 days. Woke up this AM exactly the same weight as on Friday AM in the same condition.
gh is insane.
MAN IM JELLY. HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST YOU DAILY GH WISE? LIKE 12-15 BUCKS A DAY?
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generic. Good source. Cheap enough that I can afford it easily.
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I'm not a hater, you do have a great physique
but you do have the biggest ego I have ever seen along with Skip ;D
THE DIFFERENCE IS THIS B-BOY GUY ACTUALLY LOOKS REALLY GOOD. HE LOOKS LIKE HE COULD BE A PRO VERY SOON. THIS SKIP GUY LOOKS LIKE SHIT.
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Has this Massive ManGina guy ever seen the south side of 8%? If not then he's a wannabe.
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generic. Good source. Cheap enough that I can afford it easily.
I cry when I read this. Lol.
Dear God,
Please bless me with a REALLY, REALLY GOOD source !!!!!
LOL !! Hey, it never hurts to pray, fellas. ;D
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bumb again massive g is a fucking idiot
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Yeah, Ken Hill is his name.
shittiest physique ive ever seen (wheres the barf smiley?)