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Title: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Nails on July 12, 2011, 12:25:51 PM
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Christian Lopez might end up wishing he kept that baseball after all.

Lopez became more than a footnote to the spectacle of Derek Jeter(notes) getting his 3,000th hit on Saturday at Yankee Stadium by returning the milestone baseball to the New York Yankees shortstop rather than cash it in for a likely six-figure payday. That touched off a debate still raging among fans days later: Would you have given the ball back or sold it to the highest bidder for a payday that was rumored as high as $250,000?

For his gesture, Lopez was rewarded by the Yankees with luxury box tickets for the rest of the season (including postseason), along with signed baseballs, bats and jerseys from Jeter. In addition, Lopez received four premium front-row seats to last Sunday's Yankees-Rays game.

Nice haul, right? Sure, but with those generous gifts comes tax liability. As George Harrison once sang for the Beatles, "Let me tell you how it will be; There's one for you, nineteen for me. 'Cause I'm the Taxman."

The IRS will likely consider Lopez's gratuities from the Yankees as income, and if so, he could end up having to pay anywhere from $5,000 to $13,000 in taxes, according to the New York Daily News. The New York Times, meanwhile, says the face value of the tickets to the remaining 32 regular-season games at Yankee Stadium are worth anywhere between $44,800 and $73,600. The paper's conservative estimate puts Lopez's tax bill at $14,000.

Lopez, however, seems unfazed by these revelations.

If the IRS comes calling, he says he'll pay those taxes:

    "Worse comes to worse, I'll have to pay the taxes," he told the Daily News on Monday. "I'm not going to return the seats. I have a lot of family and friends who will help me out if need be.

    "The IRS has a job to do, so I'm not going to hold it against them, but it would be cool if they helped me out a little on this."

It's unclear from the quote whether the "they" Lopez refers to means the IRS or the Yankees. The IRS could obviously help him out by considering the items he was rewarded as gifts, rather than income. Then he wouldn't owe as much in taxes.

But could Derek Jeter or the Yankees also step in and pay the taxes for Lopez? One tax expert the Daily News spoke to made that very suggestion.

What a buzzkill. Lopez expressed hope that his parents would help him out with whatever taxes he might owe. But they could rightfully point out that some of that memorabilia — not to mention many of those tickets — could be sold off to cover his expenses. (Lopez might have to do that anyway, telling reporters that he still owes more than $100,000 in student loans.)

Lopez being essentially punished for what so many saw as a good deed and selfless act makes for a troubling epilogue to a nice story.

But maybe there's still a happy ending to come.


Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 12, 2011, 12:32:49 PM
Thats' sad... :-\
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: old_lifter on July 12, 2011, 12:35:13 PM
what a fuckin retard, could of had 250k
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: bradistani on July 12, 2011, 12:36:55 PM
shock, horror.. we're not all driven by greed

good on him
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 12, 2011, 12:37:27 PM
shock, horror.. we're not all driven by greed

good on him

I think gluttony is more of his calling-card...
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Swede! on July 12, 2011, 12:40:24 PM
only in america wouyld this be a damn tax issue  ::)
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 12, 2011, 12:41:08 PM
only in america wouyld this be a damn tax issue  ::)
Yeah, cause Europe has those really low tax rates....  ::)
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Swede! on July 12, 2011, 12:42:02 PM
Yeah, cause Europe has those really low tax rates....  ::)

what does that has to do with returning a ball out of good gesture and all ofa  sudde having to pay tax?  ???
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 12, 2011, 12:44:05 PM
what does that has to do with returning a ball out of good gesture and all ofa  sudde having to pay tax?  ???

He's not paying tax, if he indeed really ends up having to, for returning the baseball, it's because of all the perks the Yanks are giving him.  He "might" have to pay taxes on those.  He most likely won't and the article was pure speculation.
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Swede! on July 12, 2011, 12:47:50 PM
He's not paying tax, if he indeed really ends up having to, for returning the baseball, it's because of all the perks the Yanks are giving him.  He "might" have to pay taxes on those.  He most likely won't and the article was pure speculation.

you sound like a racist.

www.letskillsometime.com/getbig
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 12, 2011, 12:48:28 PM
you sound like a racist.

www.letskillsometime.com/getbig

 ;D
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Swede! on July 12, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
;D

discrete huh? lol
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 12, 2011, 12:53:52 PM
He's not paying tax, if he indeed really ends up having to, for returning the baseball, it's because of all the perks the Yanks are giving him.  He "might" have to pay taxes on those.  He most likely won't and the article was pure speculation.

x2

But damn.... I would have sold it and slept well at night. 
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 12, 2011, 12:54:37 PM
discrete huh? lol

As subtle as a concrete block to the head.
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: njanvi on July 12, 2011, 04:07:04 PM
only in america wouyld this be a damn tax issue  ::)

What is it about if you earn above a certain amount you owe taxes that is so hard to understand? The gifts are considered earnings and he has to pay his taxes like anyone else, period! Remember the ladies who got the cars from Oprah?
Geez quit bitching people!!
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Nails on July 12, 2011, 04:10:15 PM
What is it about if you earn above a certain amount you owe taxes that is so hard to understand? The gifts are considered earnings and he has to pay his taxes like anyone else, period! Remember the ladies who got the cars from Oprah?
Geez quit bitching people!!

 ::) ::)

Ima tell Uncle Sam to visit your house on Christmas Morning have your kids piggy banks ready
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 12, 2011, 04:11:19 PM
I read this this morning. More government greed. Leaches.
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: njanvi on July 12, 2011, 04:16:10 PM
::) ::)

Ima tell Uncle Sam to visit your house on Christmas Morning have your kids piggy banks ready

I'm not going on tv announcing what I'm giving them and they are not given interviews to the YES network about it either.
Fatso should have kept his mouth shut
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: njanvi on July 12, 2011, 04:17:22 PM
I read this this morning. More government greed. Leaches.

How else r they supposed to pay the ss checks you were complaining about coach?
 ::)
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: AC Slater on July 12, 2011, 04:18:21 PM
who is that big titted bitch in your avatar, nails?
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: pluck on July 12, 2011, 04:34:45 PM
This truly pisses me off.

If there are still any virgins saying that the government is anything more than a fucking nanny who just tries to take every fucking penny from you...then they need a Tim Wescott style kick to the throat.
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: njanvi on July 12, 2011, 04:41:22 PM
This truly pisses me off.

If there are still any virgins saying that the government is anything more than a fucking nanny who just tries to take every fucking penny from you...then they need a Tim Wescott style kick to the throat.

So only some people should have to pay taxes?
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: pluck on July 12, 2011, 04:43:01 PM
So only some people should have to pay taxes?

No gimmick ... why the fuck should he have to pay taxes on gifts from the yankees ?

You explain it.
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: njanvi on July 12, 2011, 04:44:34 PM
No gimmick ... why the fuck should he have to pay taxes on gifts from the yankees ?

You explain it.

I don't know, maybe because the shit is worth upwards of 40k and the law clear...
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: njanvi on July 12, 2011, 04:46:17 PM
I don't know, maybe because the shit is worth upwards of 40k and the law clear...

Conservatives r all bout the "rule of law" till it bites them in da ass, then that law shouldn't b enforced
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: pluck on July 12, 2011, 05:16:14 PM
You are truly an idiot.

So he should pay taxes on a legit gift from the yankees ... that he probably won't accept now or is forced to sell so his ass won't go to jail for tax evasion.

Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 12, 2011, 05:24:26 PM
what a fuckin retard, could of had 250k

or more. I guess his personal integrity is worth more than $$$.















...as it should be.
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: njanvi on July 12, 2011, 05:27:50 PM
You are truly an idiot.

So he should pay taxes on a legit gift from the yankees ... that he probably won't accept now or is forced to sell so his ass won't go to jail for tax evasion.



Yes he should, it's what the law states
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Nails on July 12, 2011, 05:28:59 PM
Yes he should, it's what the law states

The law states you should NEVER EVER go past the speed limit posted.. im sure you follow that law daily  ::)
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: njanvi on July 12, 2011, 05:32:42 PM
The law states you should NEVER EVER go past the speed limit posted.. im sure you follow that law daily  ::)

But if I do get a ticket for speeding while over it I would have to pay up. If you don't like it, change the law, until then it shouldn't be selectively enforced.
You are letting emotions overwhelm logic
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Big N on July 12, 2011, 05:38:27 PM
This actually did catch my attention when this was posted all over NY in the news today. It'll pretty much boil down to the fact, prize vs gift.

On the other hand imagine being in this kid's shoes; Going to a baseball game with your father to have a good time, surprisingly enough you catch a very valuable baseball possibly worth up to 6 figures, then you get approached by Yankees security to go upstairs and sit down with the chairman of the Yankees aka the excellent businessman and be asked "what do you want for the ball?" This kid had no chance at capitalism let alone discuss a deal with a powerful millionaire.

Either way, I think the mob (IRS) want their cut in taxes and it's only fair for the Yankees legal attorneys to help this kid out who's $100,000 in debt of school tuition!
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: pluck on July 12, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
But if I do get a ticket for speeding while over it I would have to pay up. If you don't like it, change the law, until then it shouldn't be selectively enforced.
You are letting emotions overwhelm logic

Humming on public streets is prohibited on Sundays

Kites may not be flown within the city limits.

Cars may not be driven through the town.

Wheelbarrows with For-Sale signs may not be chained to trees.

It is against the law to make faces at dogs.


Above are real laws that are in place in towns in Illinois as of right now. Stop being a sheep and realize that the government only has 1 real goal...rake in fucking money. ...my point is that how hard do they enforce the laws that there is no money in versus the stuff like taxes on gifts.
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: njanvi on July 12, 2011, 05:42:05 PM
This actually did catch my attention when this was posted all over NY in the news today. It'll pretty much boil down to the fact, prize vs gift.

On the other hand imagine being in this kid's shoes; Going to a baseball game with your father to have a good time, surprisingly enough you catch a very valuable baseball possibly worth up to 6 figures, then you get approached by Yankees security to go upstairs and sit down with the chairman of the Yankees aka the excellent businessman and be asked "what do you want for the ball?" This kid had no chance at capitalism let alone discuss a deal with a powerful millionaire.

Either way, I think the mob (IRS) want their cut in taxes and it's only fair for the Yankees legal attorneys to help this kid out who's $100,000 in debt of school tuition!]

Yankees absolutely should help him, but the IRS should do their job as well
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Voice of Doom on July 12, 2011, 05:49:15 PM
All Taxation is theft - Josiah Warren
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: njanvi on July 12, 2011, 05:55:59 PM
All Taxation is theft - Josiah Warren

From the party of the pre-emptive war....I guess they pay for themselves
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: 2ND COMING on July 12, 2011, 05:59:34 PM
Jeter ought to just give him like 40k for being so unselfish. Seriously.
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: njanvi on July 12, 2011, 06:04:29 PM
Jeter ought to just give him like 40k for being so unselfish. Seriously.

Lol he would owe a gift tax on it  :)
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: xpac2 on July 12, 2011, 06:05:59 PM
Jeter ought to just give him like 40k for being so unselfish. Seriously.

This
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Post by: Agnostic007 on July 12, 2011, 07:15:54 PM
This

Nah, Jeter oughta hold a news conference and say he has heard all the talk about how people are saying what a moron this guy is for being so unselfish as to give him the baseball as a gesture for all he has done for the Yankees. Then go on to say how it pisses him off to hear Americans making fun of someone for not being a greedy bastard. Then he should announce he is 1. Paying off the kids college debt 2. giving him a check for 1 million dollars after taxes. Then point out to all the folks who called this kid a dumb ass that the ball was probably worth 250K max, but because he was not greedy, was rewarded for it and came out ahead.

oh wait... this isn't a movie....
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: Wiggs on July 12, 2011, 10:33:53 PM
try and do the right thing and you still get fucked.
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: 20inch calves on July 12, 2011, 10:56:17 PM
why can't jeter give the guy the money for the taxes. IMO he should pay the buy besides doing what he did. he has the money give the guy 50k
Title: Re: Uncle SAM says SCREW Baseball ... PAY ME FATSO
Post by: 20inch calves on July 12, 2011, 11:00:05 PM
Nah, Jeter oughta hold a news conference and say he has heard all the talk about how people are saying what a moron this guy is for being so unselfish as to give him the baseball as a gesture for all he has done for the Yankees. Then go on to say how it pisses him off to hear Americans making fun of someone for not being a greedy bastard. Then he should announce he is 1. Paying off the kids college debt 2. giving him a check for 1 million dollars after taxes. Then point out to all the folks who called this kid a dumb ass that the ball was probably worth 250K max, but because he was not greedy, was rewarded for it and came out ahead.

oh wait... this isn't a movie....

i agree. jeter would have probably bought the ball later anyways for the 250k so why not give the guy some money