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Title: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: nosleep on July 13, 2011, 01:48:50 PM
(http://www.erickstevens.net/inspiration7.jpg)

HOW DOES ONE ACHIEVE IT?
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Man of Steel on July 13, 2011, 01:49:54 PM
Genetics, drugs, money and cardio
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Post by: Rami on July 13, 2011, 01:51:55 PM
 low bf, low water, carb sodium load to the max, and for an hour you might enjoy something similare.
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Post by: bradistani on July 13, 2011, 01:54:32 PM
i'm sure that drives the women wild
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Post by: Hulkotron on July 13, 2011, 01:55:06 PM
Up the dosage.
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Post by: The Showstoppa on July 13, 2011, 01:59:06 PM
i'm sure that drives the women wild


LOL.......
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: mass243 on July 13, 2011, 02:01:42 PM
Holy fuk  :o  :o

I want to be vascular!!


And yes, ladies like veins. They like cock which has much veins, so why would other parts be different?
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 13, 2011, 02:02:21 PM
Holy fuk  :o  :o

I want to be vascular!!


And yes, ladies like veins. They like cock which has much veins, so why would other parts be different?

Thick as a cock.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Nirvana on July 13, 2011, 02:04:59 PM
caffeine niacin l-arginine and high temperatures
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 13, 2011, 02:06:09 PM
caffeine niacin l-arginine and high temperatures

Plus a little crack....  more ripped than a Waynesville meth-head..... 8)
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: io856 on July 13, 2011, 02:18:11 PM
not attractive
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: BayGBM on July 13, 2011, 02:29:44 PM
(http://www.erickstevens.net/inspiration7.jpg)

HOW DOES ONE ACHIEVE IT?


i'm sure that drives the women wild

x2   :D


Q: Why does one achieve it?
A: To become an escort.  ::)

(tier 5)
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Natural Man on July 13, 2011, 02:50:42 PM
an extreme ectomorph on steroids.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: tlc on July 13, 2011, 03:09:31 PM
I'm not as bad as the guy in the OP, but since I've really leaned out I don't like looking at all those bulging squirming arteries, they give me the creeps. I've even thought about wearing long sleeves on arm day.  :(
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Mr. Magoo on July 13, 2011, 03:18:34 PM
Where is Hazbin
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Nails on July 13, 2011, 03:20:46 PM
low bf, low water, carb sodium load to the max, and for an hour you might enjoy something similare.

someone forward this to the current Mr Olympia
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: nzmusclemonster on July 13, 2011, 03:21:22 PM
pretty standard, not even as vascular as a cock.
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Post by: bradistani on July 13, 2011, 04:17:26 PM
(http://i56.tinypic.com/5wc7so.gif)
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Post by: makaveli25 on July 13, 2011, 04:19:38 PM
All french cheese with high levels of cla  ::)
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: makaveli25 on July 13, 2011, 04:20:35 PM
(http://i56.tinypic.com/5wc7so.gif)

I would like to nominate you for best poster on getbig. I would have dinner with you.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: apply85 on July 13, 2011, 04:28:33 PM
tren hgh diuretics? I dunno
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Doug_Steele on July 13, 2011, 04:48:39 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg737/scaled.php?tn=0&server=737&filename=hedks.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

 8)
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: makaveli25 on July 13, 2011, 04:49:29 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg737/scaled.php?tn=0&server=737&filename=hedks.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

 8)

I would like very much to touch her bewbies.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Nails on July 13, 2011, 04:52:38 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg737/scaled.php?tn=0&server=737&filename=hedks.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

 8)

thats a strong broad
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: makaveli25 on July 13, 2011, 04:55:39 PM
 :D

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Post by: Doug_Steele on July 13, 2011, 04:56:30 PM
(http://tomschreck.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/1198067200basset_hound1.jpg)
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: makaveli25 on July 13, 2011, 04:57:57 PM
 :)
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 13, 2011, 05:02:17 PM
Doesn't this guy post on GetBig?  I think he goes by the name of True Adonis.

(http://www.erickstevens.net/inspiration7.jpg)

"1"
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: whitewidow on July 13, 2011, 05:25:21 PM
Women that I know think vascularity is gross if your cutting. When I did my first cutt cycle years ago my girlfriend said the veins running through my arms and chest made her sick. I thought they were sexy though and thats what counts. I used this transdermal underground product from a chemist I wont mention. I worked like crazy. I know it had a bunch of diffrent types of arginine alpha ketogluterate and citriline maleate and a few other diffrent kinds of arginine aalong with a steroid. you used it before your workout and holy shit you would leave the gym a fucking roadmap and it would last almost all night. it was a site specific transdermal
I wish I could still get ahold of that shit. you used it pre-workout and even if you showered it would stay on as long as you had it on for a few hours. it was badass stuff,High doses of oral winstrol.anavar 100mg Injectable primo,test prop, masteron propionate and that crazy transdermal and I would get so veiny after a workout people were asking how I got so vascular. I would also get a flame broiled chicken sandwich and burger plain and put a few salt packets on each sandwich and it made me a walking roadmap. My girlfriend hated it! Im more of a bulk cycle guy for this reason
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Krankenstein on July 13, 2011, 05:27:31 PM
thats a strong broad

Check over the right shoulder...chick is laying on one of the bar chairs.  Notice the missing chair where the circle on the floor is on the right side of the picture?
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: YoungBlood on July 13, 2011, 05:51:58 PM

I'm vascular as hell, especially in my shoulders and arms, but nowhere near that.

I make a conscious effort that every time I go on a date with a girl for the first time or whatever, I try to make sure I'm covered up, as it does repel the women as fast as Vince Goodrum does having bewbies bigger than the girl I'm approaching.

It's a genetic thing to some degree (especially in my case), low body fat and also if you pose a lot or tense your muscles at work (I do a lot of gripping and have an extremely active gig) or while you're working out.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Doug_Steele on July 13, 2011, 05:53:49 PM
Check over the right shoulder...chick is laying on one of the bar chairs.  Notice the missing chair where the circle on the floor is on the right side of the picture?

Did you notice that she is plankin?  :D
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: pic91 on July 13, 2011, 06:01:50 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg737/scaled.php?tn=0&server=737&filename=hedks.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

 8)

Pfff it's obvious there's a chair under the planking girl  ::)

(no homo)
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Nirvana on July 13, 2011, 07:38:10 PM
Plus a little crack....  more ripped than a Waynesville meth-head..... 8)
well there was a shooting in Canton a minute ago, don't know nothing about it yet.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Krankenstein on July 13, 2011, 08:20:07 PM
Did you notice that she is plankin?  :D

It was all I could do to take my eyes off the bewbeez on the girl on her knees.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2011, 09:05:03 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_I6G8NvdReQ8/TA10ClBILPI/AAAAAAAAAEA/DPBrRinBp0Q/s1600/gse_multipart27173.jpg)
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: lowkey9 on July 13, 2011, 09:59:24 PM
Women love vascular forearms, but that's usually as far as it goes.  Anything else tends to gross them out =/
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Skeletor on July 13, 2011, 10:03:33 PM
Women love vascular forearms, but that's usually as far as it goes.  Anything else tends to gross them out =/

I doubt they'd enjoy something like this:

(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/74/l_217dfe92e00fd42d8edbef9d794ebc3c.jpg)

If anything they might like to see a barely visible vein that denotes lean condition (or in their mind "muscle tone" and "athleticism").
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Doug_Steele on July 13, 2011, 10:05:53 PM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/345723153.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1310620816&Signature=RLUMo6ZE5v0Qj1KzVwzsokis1Wk%3D)

Fitness Sluts
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: dogbowl on July 13, 2011, 10:22:22 PM
Very low bodyfat plus a good pump.

Tensing and flexing after a good workout can get them really popping out.  Veins in arms and shoulders look cool,  same for thighs and calves.  Lower abdomen veins is where it starts to look freaky.

Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: mass243 on July 13, 2011, 11:21:14 PM
Women love vascular forearms, but that's usually as far as it goes.  Anything else tends to gross them out =/

Ummm....again,  they put cock in their mouth and there are very good veins in cock (at least in mine, dunno 'bout others) so why would they feel veins elsewhere are gross  ???
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: dustin on July 13, 2011, 11:54:44 PM
My veins have always looked like that (long before I lifted or juiced), so that can happen for naturals.

When I work out all my limbs look like meaty cocks. ;D
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: io856 on July 14, 2011, 12:16:16 AM
who gives a fuck what "she" likes its all about the schmoes and judges...  ::)
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Post by: Tito24 on July 14, 2011, 12:22:23 AM
hazbeen
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: AbrahamG on July 14, 2011, 01:17:37 AM
I would like to nominate you for best poster on getbig. I would have dinner with you.

I have to agree.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: mrgut on July 14, 2011, 02:02:35 AM
Yes women don't like thick vascular arms, but can stop themselves from caressing them... women are fickle and very influenced by popular opinion.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Tito24 on July 14, 2011, 02:05:13 AM
Yes women don't like thick vascular arms, but can stop themselves from caressing them... women are fickle and very influenced by popular opinion.

they are sheep just like most people.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: nosleep on July 14, 2011, 06:58:40 AM
Yes women don't like thick vascular arms, but can stop themselves from caressing them... women are fickle and very influenced by popular opinion.

YA...ACTUALLY EVERY GIRL IVE BEEN WITH LOVES THE VEINS RUNNING FROM MY DELTS TO MY WRISTS. THEY ALWAYS LIKE TO TOUCH IT, PRESS IT, ETC.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: The_Punisher on July 14, 2011, 07:11:23 AM
Pfff it's obvious there's a chair under the planking girl  ::)

(no homo)


nice observation. she looks too relax to have the other girl on her shoulders like that. there is no contractions at all
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Post by: Ex Coelis on July 14, 2011, 07:12:56 AM
the gf loves my cock-like vascularity

veins are sweet
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: funk51 on July 14, 2011, 07:18:39 AM
(http://www.erickstevens.net/inspiration7.jpg)

HOW DOES ONE ACHIEVE IT?
you look like lou ferrign's poop
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 15, 2011, 07:08:35 PM
well there was a shooting in Canton a minute ago, don't know nothing about it yet.

If I had to smell that place, I would shoot myself too....  :-X
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Doug_Steele on July 15, 2011, 08:37:26 PM
If I had to smell that place, I would shoot myself too....  :-X

Canton, Georgia or Canton, N.C.  ???
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Mr. Magoo on July 15, 2011, 09:21:52 PM
did anybody reply what happened to hazbin
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Theoak* on July 15, 2011, 10:31:29 PM
you mean this type?
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: AbrahamG on March 18, 2013, 12:28:06 AM
(http://www.erickstevens.net/inspiration7.jpg)

HOW DOES ONE ACHIEVE IT?

Reminds me of my penis.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Natural Beast on March 18, 2013, 04:15:50 AM
drugs drugs and more drugs
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 18, 2013, 04:36:31 AM
Looks like drug induced varicose veins. Caused by bad valves in the vein. Look at elite wrestlers, distance runners and sprinters. They all are under 8% body fat and none of them have this vascularity. Some is expected but when it's extreme to me it screams drugs.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 18, 2013, 07:17:09 AM
(http://www.erickstevens.net/inspiration7.jpg)

HOW DOES ONE ACHIEVE IT?


That is one of Layne Norton's client...best of ask him
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 18, 2013, 07:21:34 AM

That is one of Layne Norton's client...best of ask him
Climbing Mountains will rip you up.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Jovo on March 18, 2013, 07:38:42 AM
just so every one is aware , the guy in the picture is "natural"
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: hazbin on March 18, 2013, 10:50:36 AM
did anybody reply what happened to hazbin

oops, sorry Mr. Magoo, i musta missed this thread last time around. ;D
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: funk51 on March 18, 2013, 10:57:29 AM
oops, sorry Mr. Magoo, i musta missed this thread last time around. ;D
:) :) :) :) it's something in the water up there in canada.... ;D ;D ;D ;D all the guys are like this.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: hazbin on March 18, 2013, 11:03:24 AM
:) :) :) :) it's something in the water up there in canada.... ;D ;D ;D ;D all the guys are like this.

haha, now that you mention it, Dillet and McGrath too
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Post by: Borracho on March 18, 2013, 11:06:11 AM
haha, now that you mention it, Dillet and McGrath too

Were you always that vascular hazbin or was it something that developed with time?
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: hazbin on March 18, 2013, 11:08:39 AM
Were you always that vascular hazbin or was it something that developed with time?

i started working on my veins when i was thirteen, and i think they doubled every year till i was in my 30's, lol
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Post by: prizm on March 18, 2013, 11:11:01 AM
just so every one is aware , the guy in the picture is "natural"

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Post by: Borracho on March 18, 2013, 11:15:24 AM
i started working on my veins when i was thirteen, and i think they doubled every year till i was in my 30's, lol

But you did have some vascularity naturally right...cause some guys have zero.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: hazbin on March 18, 2013, 11:25:47 AM
But you did have some vascularity naturally right...cause some guys have zero.

i started training so early i don't know if i woulda or not.

15 years old
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Borracho on March 18, 2013, 11:27:13 AM
i started training so early i don't know if i woulda or not.

15 years old

^

haha yeah you did you god damn monster!

Impressive!
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Post by: Mr Nobody on March 18, 2013, 11:28:38 AM
i started training so early i don't know if i woulda or not.

15 years old
Hazbin a true mesomorph.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: hazbin on March 18, 2013, 11:35:28 AM
^

haha yeah you did you god damn monster!

Impressive!


haha, now that i'm looking back, i guess i had a hint of veins even at 12 years old, lol
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Post by: njflex on March 18, 2013, 11:46:02 AM
HAZ FREAK...
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Borracho on March 18, 2013, 11:47:47 AM
haha, now that i'm looking back, i guess i had a hint of veins even at 12 years old, lol

haha that's great man...

Guess you've been at this for a while now.   :P
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: Borracho on March 18, 2013, 12:12:21 PM
Hey hazbin did your upper chest respond without placing a lot of emphasis on it or did you focus a lot on developing it?

Looking columboesque

Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: hazbin on March 18, 2013, 01:02:58 PM
my chest workouts were heavy heavy bench, incline barbell, incline dumbbell then a type of flye.   total of about 30 heavy sets, every Monday and Thursday all year round.  supposedly that is overtraining, but it seemed to work. 

my chest at 23 years old
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: njflex on March 18, 2013, 01:17:13 PM
my chest workouts were heavy heavy bench, incline barbell, incline dumbbell then a type of flye.   total of about 30 heavy sets, every Monday and Thursday all year round.  supposedly that is overtraining, but it seemed to work. 

my chest at 23 years old
UNREAL ,,,the older and freakier vascular u got lessened that look u had early,,i know u took breaks and would flatten out a bit,,props for diplaying great looks different ages,,,
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Red Hook on March 18, 2013, 03:35:59 PM
(http://www.erickstevens.net/inspiration7.jpg)

HOW DOES ONE ACHIEVE IT?

lol, I expected a cock pic

getbig has ruined my sense of humor
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Nails on March 18, 2013, 03:39:14 PM
(http://distilleryimage6.s3.amazonaws.com/7942af088ff511e2a68422000a1fb163_7.jpg)
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: dj181 on March 18, 2013, 03:46:58 PM
my chest workouts were heavy heavy bench, incline barbell, incline dumbbell then a type of flye.   total of about 30 heavy sets, every Monday and Thursday all year round.  supposedly that is overtraining, but it seemed to work. 

my chest at 23 years old

what kind of loads were you pushing in those exercises?
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Borracho on March 18, 2013, 03:50:36 PM
my chest workouts were heavy heavy bench, incline barbell, incline dumbbell then a type of flye.   total of about 30 heavy sets, every Monday and Thursday all year round.  supposedly that is overtraining, but it seemed to work. 

my chest at 23 years old

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=388696.0;attach=509921;image)

Damn Hazbin that's an amazing build right there.

Respect.
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: hazbin on March 18, 2013, 08:06:44 PM
what kind of loads were you pushing in those exercises?
being that getbig likes to call people bullshitters, i don't think i should even mention the weights i was using.
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: AbrahamG on March 18, 2013, 08:36:09 PM
(http://distilleryimage6.s3.amazonaws.com/7942af088ff511e2a68422000a1fb163_7.jpg)

Choppers of peace.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: the_swami on March 18, 2013, 08:53:43 PM


as natural as lance armstrong

fucking liar
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: 240 is Back on March 18, 2013, 09:13:24 PM
Nutrient timing
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Big N on March 18, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
Nutrient timing

Lol
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Figo on March 18, 2013, 11:17:15 PM
my chest workouts were heavy heavy bench, incline barbell, incline dumbbell then a type of flye.   total of about 30 heavy sets, every Monday and Thursday all year round.  supposedly that is overtraining, but it seemed to work.  

my chest at 23 years old



That physique was worthy of a pro card in the late 80s/early 90s

How did your back and legs stack up ?

Looking like Dave Fisher there
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: prizm on March 19, 2013, 12:13:50 AM
as natural as lance armstrong

fucking liar

Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: hazbin on March 19, 2013, 01:15:36 AM


That physique was worthy of a pro card in the late 80s/early 90s

How did your back and legs stack up ?

Looking like Dave Fisher there

i could never get the full muscle look Dave had.  we trained in the same gyms til he headed to LA in 1990. he was only about 225 offseason, very lean, but i remember thinking i'd have to be about 280 to have his roundness.  Dave is about 2 inches shorter than me.

this pic was 1991 when i was 26 and 242
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: hazbin on March 19, 2013, 01:18:36 AM


That physique was worthy of a pro card in the late 80s/early 90s

How did your back and legs stack up ?

Looking like Dave Fisher there

my back was on par, but honestly i always thought my legs were a tad behind.
Title: Re: THIS TYPE OF VASCULARITY
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on March 19, 2013, 01:37:08 AM
i'm sure that drives the women Mayor wild

fixed
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Figo on March 19, 2013, 02:38:08 AM
i could never get the full muscle look Dave had.  we trained in the same gyms til he headed to LA in 1990. he was only about 225 offseason, very lean, but i remember thinking i'd have to be about 280 to have his roundness.  Dave is about 2 inches shorter than me.

this pic was 1991 when i was 26 and 242

He was short, had great thickness to the torso, good arms, great legs. Surely he was a much bigger user than you, though? You've spoken of your dosages, and he was a top amateur/pro.

Your MM has no flaws, great detail on the back and hams, I'm sure over the years you've heard it a lot, but that physique was pro worthy. Put some guys that won the NA's to shame

1985-92 some of the guys getting coverage in mags looked far inferior

Well done!
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: dj181 on March 19, 2013, 04:36:20 AM
being that getbig likes to call people bullshitters, i don't think i should even mention the weights i was using.


understood
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Figo on March 19, 2013, 05:22:50 AM
understood

Fucked up, aint it?

Remember gh15 claiming Hazbin used hormones as a 14 yr old or something...
Gimmicks and idiots chase away quality posters

This is a guy with real world experience that had pro potential, and shows his face and identity

We should be listening to him relate diet, training, and if he so wished, hormones and prep . It is a sort of bbing related board after all

Ok. I'm done with my 2 cent mini-meltdown ;D
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: dj181 on March 19, 2013, 05:31:07 AM
Fucked up, aint it?

Remember gh15 claiming Hazbin used hormones as a 14 yr old or something...
Gimmicks and idiots chase away quality posters

This is a guy with real world experience that had pro potential, and shows his face and identity

We should be listening to him relate diet, training, and if he so wished, hormones and prep . It is a sort of bbing related board after all

Ok. I'm done with my 2 cent mini-meltdown ;D

agree completely

that's why i'm done posting up pics here on this board, but i'll still send pics to the trusted and decent members here

Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Borracho on March 19, 2013, 08:13:29 AM
Fucked up, aint it?

Remember gh15 claiming Hazbin used hormones as a 14 yr old or something...
Gimmicks and idiots chase away quality posters

This is a guy with real world experience that had pro potential, and shows his face and identity

We should be listening to him relate diet, training, and if he so wished, hormones and prep . It is a sort of bbing related board after all

Ok. I'm done with my 2 cent mini-meltdown ;D

People here wanna believe it really is "all drugs" hence the lack of disrespect for a lot of guys who make it somewhere in bbing. After messing around with a little juice myself I can honestly say there is sooooooo much more to it than injecting yourself with some hormones. You look at a lot of the guys who've made it far in this and you could tell from a very early age that they loved training and that their bodies responded tremendously well to it like hazbin over here.

Sure drugs will have their place but now your body has to respond to them without getting sick or just getting side effects from them. Your body has to be able to sustain the amount of stress it takes to train with heavy weights. Because you will get stronger as you grow there's no way around that and some people can be very prone to injuries/muscle tears....this factor is overlooked. Then there's all the eating you have to do.... :-X Sure I love to eat but it will become a chore and very expensive when trying to get to or maintain a certain weight.

After all that your body SHOULD grow proportionately and have a pleasing look. You bodybuild 24-7 only to get on stage to be judged by someone who's probably fat and out of shape and probably doesn't even train. The competitive aspect of this I never really understood but I get it...respect to anyone that goes that route....it's not easy.

ok now I'm done with my 2 cent meltdown too  ;D
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: hazbin on March 19, 2013, 09:47:24 AM
People here wanna believe it really is "all drugs" hence the lack of disrespect for a lot of guys who make it somewhere in bbing. After messing around with a little juice myself I can honestly say there is sooooooo much more to it than injecting yourself with some hormones. You look at a lot of the guys who've made it far in this and you could tell from a very early age that they loved training and that their bodies responded tremendously well to it like hazbin over here.

Sure drugs will have their place but now your body has to respond to them without getting sick or just getting side effects from them. Your body has to be to sustain the amount of stress it takes to train with heavy weights. Because you will get stronger as you grow there's no way around that and some people can be very prone to injuries/muscle tears....this factor is overlooked. Then there's all the eating you have to do.... :-X Sure I love to eat but it will become a chore and very expensive when trying to get to or maintain a certain weight.

After all that your body SHOULD grow proportionately and have a pleasing look. You bodybuild 24-7 only to get on stage to be judged by someone who's probably fat and out of shape and probably doesn't even train. The competitive aspect of this I never really understood but I get it...respect to anyone that goes that route....it's not easy.

ok now I'm done with my 2 cent meltdown too  ;D

haha, it's funny you mention the forced feeding. now i go all day, usually til seven at night without my first meal.  it's actually a luxury to be hungry after being so full day and night, force feeding for decades
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Borracho on March 19, 2013, 09:55:22 AM
haha, it's funny you mention the forced feeding. now i go all day, usually til seven at night without my first meal.  it's actually a luxury to be hungry after being so full day and night, force feeding for decades

yeah even I have to eat a lot to gain weight and I'm very small lol
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Borracho on March 19, 2013, 10:05:17 AM
Hazbin your skin looks paper thin these days. Was it like that in your 20's too ? ..doesn't seem as pronounced from the pictures.

And it sounds like you do some sort of intermittent fast now...how many calories would you say you have and do you just have one large meal ?
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: hazbin on March 19, 2013, 10:09:52 AM
Hazbin your skin looks paper thin these days. Was it like that in your 20's too ? ..doesn't seem as pronounced from the pictures.

And it sounds like you do some sort of intermittent fast now...how many calories would you say you have and do you just have one large meal ?

honestly i eat like shit.   my girlfriend makes me a great supper every night, but other than that it's a lot of coffee all day, tons of water, (i think i'm addicted to it) probably 3 gallons a day,  and then usually a quart of icecream at 4-5 am because i havent' fallen asleep yet. i've had a sleep disorder pretty much my whole life.   i wouldn't have a clue what my caloric intake would be, but the way i intake calories seems to be putting some fat on me, even tho it has to be far less calories than in the past
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Borracho on March 19, 2013, 10:19:32 AM
honestly i eat like shit.   my girlfriend makes me a great supper every night, but other than that it's a lot of coffee all day, tons of water, (i think i'm addicted to it) probably 3 gallons a day,  and then usually a quart of icecream at 4-5 am because i havent' fallen asleep yet. i've had a sleep disorder pretty much my whole life.   i wouldn't have a clue what my caloric intake would be, but the way i intake calories seems to be putting some fat on me, even tho it has to be far less calories than in the past

I suffer from a sleep disorder too....might be similar to yours. When I started training I made it a point eat whenever I woke up to pee and now I can't go a night without waking up at least a couple of times to eat something. It's like I programmed my body to be eating constantly...automatical ly wake up every 2-3 hours to eat.

I find it much easier to control my caloric consumption in the day when I'm not half asleep. So like you, I don't even bother eating breakfast or lunch as my first meals have been around 4 in the afternoon recently. I'm more strict with this if I'm trying to keep bf down or if dieting of course.
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: hazbin on March 19, 2013, 12:42:55 PM
sounds similar.   since i was a child i never slept more than a half hour at a time.  so i don't hit deep sleep, and now with chronic pain being so bad, it takes me 12 hours in bed to get 6 hours  sleep.
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 19, 2013, 12:55:49 PM
sounds similar.   since i was a child i never slept more than a half hour at a time.  so i don't hit deep sleep, and now with chronic pain being so bad, it takes me 12 hours in bed to get 6 hours  sleep.
Wow amazing you could achieve your physique on this, I'm not a good sleeper either 3-4 hours max then up tried sleeping pills everything nothing helps.
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Figo on March 19, 2013, 01:03:05 PM
and now with chronic pain being so bad,

Pain from what ?
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: hazbin on March 19, 2013, 01:05:10 PM
Pain from what ?

my spine is destroyed
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: hazbin on March 19, 2013, 01:21:14 PM
Wow amazing you could achieve your physique on this, I'm not a good sleeper either 3-4 hours max then up tried sleeping pills everything nothing helps.

ya, i tried the prescription ones, and they worked for about 4 days.  then i heard about guys taking 8 of them every night so i quit taking them.    i take tons of melatonin and any other natural serotonin precursers i hear about
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: funk51 on March 19, 2013, 01:52:38 PM
i had a lot of back problems a couple herniated discs, fractures etc.  i got some relief from doing a cat like stretching movement on my hands and kness and while laying on my back i pull my knees up one at a time for another stretch. and when i drive i use a back pillow seems to help.
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Borracho on March 19, 2013, 03:56:20 PM
sounds similar.   since i was a child i never slept more than a half hour at a time.  so i don't hit deep sleep, and now with chronic pain being so bad, it takes me 12 hours in bed to get 6 hours  sleep.

That's gotta be rough. I've had periods of insomnia but I can't complain...hasn't been that bad.
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: njflex on March 19, 2013, 06:55:53 PM
That's gotta be rough. I've had periods of insomnia but I can't complain...hasn't been that bad.
i hit pillow out within a minute,,,
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: hazbin on March 19, 2013, 07:11:00 PM
habin, do you think vascularity can be trained?

because i do think so.

examples, flexing the abs so hard it stops bloodflow, then flexing muscles very hard for very long while holding breath,i swear this worked for me.

or,you know when you flex the shoulders against own chest,this stops bloodflow in arms,and then pumping the biceps, my veins feel like they going to explode that way.

i wasnt always as vascular as these days, while i was even leaner when younger.



yes, absolutely.  I got to the point where I could flex the muscle , or flex the vein.  I would force blood through them so hard that they would hurt after.
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: hazbin on March 19, 2013, 07:40:35 PM
yes, exactly, i can do the same,i can make the biceps vein pop out without flexing the biceps :D

i know how to bring the veins on tris out,and shoulders and chest, for the back i need to look at mirror or i fail,haha.

calves i got down too, but the leg veins are hardest to bring out for me,i dont know where to cut off the bloodstream ???

biceps is easiest imo, you just cut odd bloodstream with the pecs and thats it.

fuck i knew you went through the same procedures ;D

btw, you looked absolutely amazing,amazing when younger, better than current ifbb pros and the whole npc lot.

goes to show how much hgh "added" to the sport :-X

you are a rolemodel,brother.

tell me one thing, what would you do in retrospect to not ruin your spine?

my spine feels kinda worse by the months, esp upon waking,its not very much fun :P



thanx for the props bro,   but I always fukked up show day, well not always, but it didn't seem to matter.

as far as saving the spine, mine was fukked by the time I was a teen.  between motocross crashes, jumping off roofs high enough to blacken my eyes, and trying to lift everything I saw it was destroyed.
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: njflex on March 20, 2013, 06:00:22 AM
WE APPRECIATE YOUR STORIES,PICS,,HONEST CHAT.
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: Figo on March 20, 2013, 06:05:00 AM
WE APPRECIATE YOUR STORIES,PICS,,HONEST CHAT.

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Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: muscularny on March 20, 2013, 06:30:12 AM
yes, absolutely.  I got to the point where I could flex the muscle , or flex the vein.  I would force blood through them so hard that they would hurt after.
thanks for sharing some good info, what was your cycle like?
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: King Shizzo on March 20, 2013, 07:07:08 AM
yes, exactly, i can do the same,i can make the biceps vein pop out without flexing the biceps :D

i know how to bring the veins on tris out,and shoulders and chest, for the back i need to look at mirror or i fail,haha.

calves i got down too, but the leg veins are hardest to bring out for me,i dont know where to cut off the bloodstream ???

biceps is easiest imo, you just cut odd bloodstream with the pecs and thats it.

fuck i knew you went through the same procedures ;D

btw, you looked absolutely amazing,amazing when younger, better than current ifbb pros and the whole npc lot.

goes to show how much hgh "added" to the sport :-X

you are a rolemodel,brother.

tell me one thing, what would you do in retrospect to not ruin your spine?

my spine feels kinda worse by the months, esp upon waking,its not very much fun :P


I'm sure the world's leading scientists will be banging down your door soon, for this valuable info.
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: dj181 on March 20, 2013, 07:32:44 AM
WE APPRECIATE YOUR STORIES,PICS,,HONEST CHAT.

agreed

all the way good dude
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 20, 2013, 08:24:01 AM
honestly i eat like shit.   my girlfriend makes me a great supper every night, but other than that it's a lot of coffee all day, tons of water, (i think i'm addicted to it) probably 3 gallons a day,  and then usually a quart of icecream at 4-5 am because i havent' fallen asleep yet. i've had a sleep disorder pretty much my whole life.   i wouldn't have a clue what my caloric intake would be, but the way i intake calories seems to be putting some fat on me, even tho it has to be far less calories than in the past

ever consider a CPAP machine
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: King Shizzo on March 20, 2013, 08:26:21 AM
it was for me, took me very very long to figure it out.as ive said i still havent figured out proper way for the quads.

sometimes i manage it randomly, but cant do it consistently, maybe hazbin has some pointers on that ???

basicaly,the principle is simple, its like stopping bloodstream with a cord,or belt.just doing it by flexing the muscles in a way to squeeze the main veins.


works very well even if fully carb depleted.after carb load it becomes painful wuite quick,for me atleast.


I think David Carradine thought along these lines as well.
Title: Re: This type of Vascularity - how do you achieve it?
Post by: hazbin on March 20, 2013, 10:49:00 AM
ever consider a CPAP machine

do i need to call Lee Priest for that?

sorry, havent' heard of it, i'll google it.   i have tried light machines and brain wave manipulators