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Title: How's this for an outrage?
Post by: HDPhysiques on July 14, 2011, 09:46:40 AM
So, a relative of mine currently works for a municipality in a standard type of gov't position (i.e. - clerical work for license office, street department, etc...). He has applied for a different position in the city, for the police department, in a clerical type of role (desk job/dispatcher, etc..).

Now, since it's for the police department, sure, it's to be expected that they would do a criminal background check and the standard employment check stuff. No problem. However.... since when did it become OK to require an in-home visit? Isn't that going too far? And perhaps even unconstitutional? What grounds can they possibly have to justify searching your home as a requirement for employment? Do you give up your protections against unreasonable search and seizure, and your right to "innocent until proven guilty" when you apply for a law enforcement job? This is news to me.... it's an outrage.  Or am I fired up over nothing?

Do we have any employment law experts on the board?
Title: Re: How's this for an outrage?
Post by: 240 is Back on July 14, 2011, 10:23:53 AM
a post like this, completely lacking palin insults or questions of obama's birth cert, won't get much attention.


I see it being silly, but understandable for some depts to implement this locally to make sure their new chief of evidence locker doesn't live in a growhouse, etc.
Title: Re: How's this for an outrage?
Post by: Mr. Magoo on July 14, 2011, 10:27:24 AM
I'll just give my two cents since nobody else has replied yet.

As far as I know, they should not require an in-home visit. I know a guy who recently became a deputy and he did not mention any thing like an in-home visit. I was offered a chance for a summer job with the DOD and I looked over how they would conduct background checks, but nothing was so drastic as searching through my house. As far as I know, if they did come visit your friend, your friend did not have to let them in without a warrent, but since this whole patriot act-era nonsense, who the hell knows what is required anymore.
Title: Re: How's this for an outrage?
Post by: Skip8282 on July 14, 2011, 01:35:30 PM
I think some adoption agencies and pet adoption agencies do these home visits too.  Never heard about a police job though.
Title: Re: How's this for an outrage?
Post by: HDPhysiques on July 14, 2011, 01:46:42 PM
I think some adoption agencies and pet adoption agencies do these home visits too.  Never heard about a police job though.

That's an entirely different situation - in those situations, the home environment is a factor in the participants ability to complete the role they are seeking.
Title: Re: How's this for an outrage?
Post by: OzmO on July 14, 2011, 03:25:22 PM
That's an entirely different situation - in those situations, the home environment is a factor in the participants ability to complete the role they are seeking.

Seems excessive. 
Title: Re: How's this for an outrage?
Post by: Fury on July 14, 2011, 04:43:57 PM
a post like this, completely lacking palin insults or questions of obama's birth cert, won't get much attention.




You log more posts about Palin than anyone else on this forum, douche bag.
Title: Re: How's this for an outrage?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 15, 2011, 05:20:38 AM
So, a relative of mine currently works for a municipality in a standard type of gov't position (i.e. - clerical work for license office, street department, etc...). He has applied for a different position in the city, for the police department, in a clerical type of role (desk job/dispatcher, etc..).

Now, since it's for the police department, sure, it's to be expected that they would do a criminal background check and the standard employment check stuff. No problem. However.... since when did it become OK to require an in-home visit? Isn't that going too far? And perhaps even unconstitutional? What grounds can they possibly have to justify searching your home as a requirement for employment? Do you give up your protections against unreasonable search and seizure, and your right to "innocent until proven guilty" when you apply for a law enforcement job? This is news to me.... it's an outrage.  Or am I fired up over nothing?

Do we have any employment law experts on the board?


Yes its legal for any workplace and for a state or federal job, they will sometimes come to a location for an in home visit, much more now than before ever since 9/11.  Its to make sure that you live where you say you live