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http://www.mmamania.com/2011/7/14/2276509/alistair-overeem-mulls-move-to-boxing-thinks-he-can-break-vitali
RIP Overeem if this should happen.
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http://www.mmamania.com/2011/7/14/2276509/alistair-overeem-mulls-move-to-boxing-thinks-he-can-break-vitali
RIP Overeem if this should happen.
this is a must see, poor man
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big fan of my countryman overeem and enjoy all his fights, he is a killer...
but vitali klitschko..man.. this does not sound like the best idea in the world.
however he is expected to lose to vitali anyway... so no shame for trying...and what if he wins..man.. that would be sick
mma, k1 and boxing world champion..
but what then.. armwrestling (profitable?).. strongest man contrest (roids?).. maybe discus throwing :)
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big fan of my countryman overeem and enjoy all his fights, he is a killer...
but vitali klitschko..man.. this does not sound like the best idea in the world.
however he is expected to lose to vitali anyway... so no shame for trying...and what if he wins..man.. that would be sick
mma, k1 and boxing world champion..
but what then.. armwrestling (profitable?).. strongest man contrest (roids?).. maybe discus throwing :)
or g4p
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overeem has no endurance now put has great knockout power
basicaly klitchko will run the whole fight , teasing the punch out of overeem. klitcho will jab and do pussy moves like that and eventually catch him good in the later rounds
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overeem has no endurance now put has great knockout power
basicaly klitchko will run the whole fight , teasing the punch out of overeem. klitcho will jab and do pussy moves like that and eventually catch him good in the later rounds
exaclty, and the poor Overeem will be dog meat
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exaclty, and the poor Overeem will be dog meat
he could very well beat klitchko. klitcho better be real careful because hes a tall skinny white pussy so he better dance and run in the fight in order to win
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Klitchko who?
There hasn't been a heavyweight since Lennox Lewis retired.
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Should he fight in K1 or UFC for a championship and maybe make a $200K pay day or fight for the heavy weight championship for 10 to 20 million? I wonder what his motivation is?
He would first have to get ranked by fighting other boxers. He would get killed by Klitschko.
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I would fight vitaly for a million dollars also ;D
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klitchko just looks like a guy who smokes cigarettes and has bad health
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Overeem will get butt raped hard.
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Overeem will get butt raped hard.
really really hard
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couldnt do worse then toney trying mma though.
Toney will fight ken shamrock soon also, anh hopefulyl ken doest go easy on him like coture.
I dont know if overeem is serious though. He has great standup if you include legkicks elbows and knees in clinch etc. but Only boxing? .........
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hey...hey Leroy...Leroy yeah did you hear about that boy Mike Tyson?
Mike...Mike Tyson he's the boy that played football from Montreal ain't he?
no no you old coop, he a...he a boxer man yeah let me tell ya I went to his fight a couple months ago.
I seen him hit this boy, and he hit the boy so hard his head flew off into the eigtheenth row (laughing) they had to get his head out of the eighteenth row
[Prince & Jeff] I was in Jeff's crib one night about eight and we were watchin'a couple of Mike Tyson fight tapes Jeff was like... man, you see how hard Mike's punchin'?
come on Jeff the other guy was just lungin'
left, right, left, right, another K.O. if that was me I'd a been ok though
the very next day I gave Russell a ring with J.L. and Omar we all called Don King
I said 'yeah, Don I got a problem
tell 'em Prince 'yeah what's up? what you sayin? you tryin' to solve 'em?'
'forget the small talk let's get to the nitty gritty' 'me and Mike, two months, Trump, Atlantic City'
yo, you got this you gonna bust dude up
yeah, you can be my trainer word up?
I'm rough like a freight train smooth like ice and yo Jeff, straight up, I think I can Mike Tyson
man, you can beat him, you can beat him yo man, word up yo I put on a couple of pounds man we can do this you can do it
Newspaper boy: extra, extra read all about it Fresh Prince challenges Iron Mike Tyson to a fight (laughing) ah he's crazy
ain't that the boy who knocked the guy's head in the fifthteen row?
hey Leroy, you read the paper? that boy done lost his mind
[Prince, Barber] there was press conference to see what training I was doing
before then I had never heard reporters booing
cameras flashing I was in the middle
I didn't wanna look dumb so I exagerrated a little
I said uh I been training 2o hours a day lifting big old cars and big bails of hay (that's what he's doin')
and I run 10,000 miles every morning thinkin' about Mike and my moment of glory (tell 'em more)
I drink water 20 gallons a pop and I can throw a Volkswagon a whole half block (he can do it too)
and 4 million sit ups...in a minute.... ..I ain't lying I did it (he done it)
the general public thought I was a fool
I was gettin' dissed but I guess that was cool
well gettin' dissed is never good
but I was even gettin' dissed in my old nieghborhood
I was at the corner at the top of my block there was a couple of people standing outside of the barber shop
it was Larwence, my barber, and Franny he yelled out hey, Prince, you can win!
I said 'really?' and I stopped to chat
you could beat him man, if you hit him wit a bat ha ha...you gon' get whipped but can I have your shoes when he break your neck?
everybody was laughin' out loud I thought at least my own Grandma would be proud
I went to her house and snuck in to surpise her I heard her on the phone (a thousand bucks on Tyson)
[Prince, Ring Announcer] it's fight day and man am I hyped boy I can't wait to see Mike
boy I'm hyped ready to be my thing Trump Castle Casino
in this corner...weighing in at a mere 165 pounds, the Lighting Rodent, the Fresh Prince! (booing)
and in this corner... the heavyweight champion of the world... Iron Mike Tyson (cheering)
I came out hustling sliding and grabbing slippin' and dippin' hustlin' and jabbin'
for a second I looked good out there but then Mike brought to reality my worst nightmare
one punch, that's all it took (oooh) he hit me in my ribs and my insides shook
now how can I say this and be a little discreet let's just say that my bowels released
I called timeout and went back to my corner
said to my coach 'ain't no way I'm goin' the hell back out there, man you can't forget it'
my body's like a punchin' bag and Mike is gonna (hit it)
they tried to make me go meet my doom but I sucker punched my coach and hauled to my dressing room
the next day the headline in the town 'Fresh Prince breaks camp, Tyson wins first round'
some fool asked why I ran away I said 'a good run is better than a bad stand anyday'
my career is over as far as fightin' but I don't know what made me think I can beat Mike Tyson
2 old men: hey Leroy! yeah did you see the fight?
did you see the fight?
the..the..the football player?
no the boxer, come on man I was at the fight last night I paid four hundred and seventy fo' thousand dollars for my ticket right... ah, you weren't at no fight I seen you around here last night ..and the boy..the boy ran out the ring you always lying I ain't lying... you lie to your grandkids.. ..I seen it... ...you been lying ever since you was a little kid ...Mike Tyson punched the boy in his ribs, and his leg fell off his leg fell off and it fell over... ...you always lying ...and it knocked the HBO camerman's camera fell out his hand I said, god damn, I couldn't beleive it Leroy you shoulda been there...you definetly shoulda been there ...I was right next to you playin' checkers
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Interesting matchup. I'd put my money on Overeem 8)
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deluded mma fans will think he'll smash him to death in one round ::)
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deluded mma fans will think he'll smash him to death in one round ::)
no, mma fans aren't delusional. Its the other way around lol.
"Toney will catch couture with a uppercut comin in and its all over!!" hahahaha.
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no, mma fans aren't delusional. Its the other way around lol.
"Toney will catch couture with a uppercut comin in and its all over!!" hahahaha.
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the horror! ;D
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The test must be getting to his head. It's a whole different world when an MMA fighter gets in a boxing ring. He'd have a better shot at Pacquaio.........but not much better. LOL.
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The test must be getting to his head. It's a whole different world when an MMA fighter gets in a boxing ring. He'd have a better shot at Pacquaio.........but not much better. LOL.
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Vitaly will put him to sleep for sure
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I would fight vitaly for a million dollars also ;D
That money would be gone paying off one big hospital bill.
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That money would be gone paying off one big hospital bill.
not if we had the fight in sweden lol. and what hospital bill? I would just get ko'd ;D
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Win win situation for Overeem.
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Win win situation for Overeem.
EXACTLY.
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Win win situation for Overeem.
How's that?
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The test must be getting to his head. It's a whole different world when an MMA fighter gets in a boxing ring. He'd have a better shot at Pacquaio.........but not much better. LOL.
hey choch if you had to guess what would you say overeems cycle is
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hey choch if you had to guess what would you say overeems cycle is
Your mom, four days on, one day off. Start cycle over.
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don't you guys know, strikeforce / ufc have drug tests!!
all athletes are clean!! ;D
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don't you guys know, strikeforce / ufc have drug tests!!
all athletes are clean!! ;D
Doesn't matter whether they do or not, it's up to the state's athletic commissions.
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overeem has no endurance now put has great knockout power
basicaly klitchko will run the whole fight , teasing the punch out of overeem. klitcho will jab and do pussy moves like that and eventually catch him good in the later rounds
lmao
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he could very well beat klitchko. klitcho better be real careful because hes a tall skinny white pussy so he better dance and run in the fight in order to win
you've obviously never seen Vitali fight
Vitali is a guy that loves to fight, if Lennox Lewis couldnt knock out Vitali theres no way in hell Overeeem does
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Doesn't matter whether they do or not, it's up to the state's athletic commissions.
i think you missed the sarcasm in my post....
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Probably...I've been missing a lot lately :((
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Overeem is eating the cheese. What a joke. Generation nothingness at its finest. "hey look at me, I'm doing pretty well in a sport that has barely gotten off the ground and now I think I can jump into another sport and dominate" Klitschko should take the fight and as soon as the bell rings, kick Overeem right in the ballz as hard has he can and walk away laughing. He should then have the Russian mob jump into the ring with knives stabbing anyone and everyone who comes towards Klitschko. Nothing worse than a Negro who thinks they can crush the world. ::)
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LOL
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Bad Idea, Doubt the Boxing Commission would Sanction that sort of Fight unless Over reem had a couple of Boxing fights first and proved himself against a Top 3 Heavyweight first, one thing is Sure it would create a Huge following rolling the $$ in, Overeem to gas in 3-4rds then its good night.
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Overeem is eating the cheese. What a joke. Generation nothingness at its finest. "hey look at me, I'm doing pretty well in a sport that has barely gotten off the ground and now I think I can jump into another sport and dominate" Klitschko should take the fight and as soon as the bell rings, kick Overeem right in the ballz as hard has he can and walk away laughing. He should then have the Russian mob jump into the ring with knives stabbing anyone and everyone who comes towards Klitschko. Nothing worse than a Negro who thinks they can crush the world. ::)
barely gotten of the ground???
yeah ufc and strikeforce are real pispoor businesses.... ::)
boxing is dieing.... mma is growing...
overeem could not take klitschko ... maybe after some training he could do better... who knows..
i think he should stick to mma/k1 more complete and nicer to watch anyway.
boxing especially heavyweight boxing is soooooo boring nowaday.
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barely gotten of the ground???
yeah ufc and strikeforce are real pispoor businesses.... ::)
boxing is dieing.... mma is growing...
overeem could not take klitschko ... maybe after some training he could do better... who knows..
i think he should stick to mma/k1 more complete and nicer to watch anyway.
boxing especially heavyweight boxing is soooooo boring nowaday.
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Lets look at boxings Hall a fame and the MMA's hall of fame. Isn't Tito "or-fucking-tize in the mma hall of fame. Come on bro. MMA is the shit but its just getting off the ground compared to boxings storied history. I agree that Mma has taken over boxing. But in terms of talent, mma is at the beginning stages. Brock fkcing Lesner was UFC champ for how long? No experience whats so ever. In boxing terms, Brock never would have made it out of the state level. In bodybuilding terms Brock would have been close to what Kovacs was(never should have been given a pro card) Hell as it turns out, Brock is starting to show serious signs of Palumboism/Kovacsism. The irony. And he doesn't deny the fact that he actually has a penis on his chest. Thats fucking weird bro.
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How's that?
if he gets lucky and wins he shocks the world. if he gets his knocked off he collects ALOT of money..win, win
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First time ive seen Overeem come across as nice guy, normally hes a shit like the time he said he would ve "spanked" a prime Tyson. yeh whatever!
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he looks small , giving the ole nads a rest
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Lets look at boxings Hall a fame and the MMA's hall of fame. Isn't Tito "or-fucking-tize in the mma hall of fame.
Titio is in the hall of fame becuse he was there from the get go. Is that so hard to understand? lol. FIrst UFC fight back is 1997 ufc 13 (which is when fertitta bought it I think).. Thats right 1997.
I hate the guy but he deserves the HOF.
He helped build the ufc alongside lidell and couture.
If someone was boxing in the same year boxing was created in the usa, wouldnt he deserve to be in the hall of fame if he did good? ???
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he looks small , giving the ole nads a rest
never looks Big in clothes
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Titio is in the hall of fame becuse he was there from the get go. Is that so hard to understand? lol. FIrst UFC fight back is 1997 ufc 13 (which is when fertitta bought it I think).. Thats right 1997.
I hate the guy but he deserves the HOF.
If someone was boxing in the same year boxing was created in the usa, wouldnt he deserve to be in the hall of fame if he did good? ???
exactly , how would jack johnson fair in todays climate
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First time ive seen Overeem come across as nice guy, normally hes a shit like the time he said he would ve "spanked" a prime Tyson. yeh whatever!
to me he always comes across as realistic and humble imo
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Lets look at boxings Hall a fame and the MMA's hall of fame. Isn't Tito "or-fucking-tize in the mma hall of fame. Come on bro. MMA is the shit but its just getting off the ground compared to boxings storied history. I agree that Mma has taken over boxing. But in terms of talent, mma is at the beginning stages. Brock fkcing Lesner was UFC champ for how long? No experience whats so ever. In boxing terms, Brock never would have made it out of the state level. In bodybuilding terms Brock would have been close to what Kovacs was(never should have been given a pro card) Hell as it turns out, Brock is starting to show serious signs of Palumboism/Kovacsism. The irony. And he doesn't deny the fact that he actually has a penis on his chest. Thats fucking weird bro.
man absolutely right about the chest penis! lol!!
agreed boxing has a longer history....
but to say mma is just getting off.... it's been around for a long time.... in brasil a very long time.. vale tudo has been here since the 50's or 60's somebody will correct me i am sure.
the gracies were doing fights here... lasting up to hours! bare knuckles!
Helio gracie is where it began, dude is an old man allready...
and brock.... yes you are right.. but look at boxing...
the russian dude Valuev what's his name? the neanderthaler..... really dude is huge that is why he wins... no skill whatsoever! jab jab jab jab jab... boring!
at least he doesn't have a penis on his chest though... lol!!
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Brock fkcing Lesner was UFC champ for how long? No experience whats so ever.
boxing fans are funny lol
I be they have nightmares about mma, how all of their idols would get beaten up in a Real fight, poor souls ;D
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Exactly!!Cos a "real" fight involves rolling round on the floor trying to put each other in "holds"
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Exactly!!Cos a "real" fight involves rolling round on the floor trying to put each other in "holds"
well , to be honest...
only using your hands can't be called a fight.....
in a real fight that never happens, and usually a fight will end on the ground.
boxing as a martial art, is incomplete.
a human has arms and legs.. why only use one of these weapons, does not make sense...
guess it's hard for you to swallow that a world class boxer will allways loose from an average mma fighter in a barfight.... just a fact..... ;D
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Win win situation for Overeem.
He will be embarrassed and KOd in one. That's not a win
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He will be embarrassed and KOd in one. That's not a win
he will have a tons in the bank..... that is a win.... lol!
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boxing fans are funny lol
I be they have nightmares about mma, how all of their idols would get beaten up in a Real fight, poor souls ;D
I'm not really a fan of boxing. But its been a "sport" since 4000 BC where it supposedly started in North Africa.
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I actually like boxing more than MMA.
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I actually like boxing more than MMA.
Boxing is a beautiful art. MMA is raw and animalistic and encoded into our DNA. Whats interesting is that most people would have much less fear getting into a ring with a prime Mike Tyson than they would getting into a ring with an above average MMA guy.The worst that would happen with Tyson is a quick knockout. With an MMA guy, you could actually think you may wind up dead or have a broken neck. MMA is awesome in that respect.
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A lot more deaths have occurred in boxing then there have in mma, in fact I don't think anyone has died yet in mma. Many boxers have died shortly after fights. The fact of the matter is the limiting to mainly head only punches causes way more brain damage than using every body part. Not to mention a lot of boxers could probably kill you in one punch. It's all about g-force.
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Duc-do-Kim (sp) Mancini retired that night.
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A lot more deaths have occurred in boxing then there have in mma, in fact I don't think anyone has died yet in mma. Many boxers have died shortly after fights. The fact of the matter is the limiting to mainly head only punches causes way more brain damage than using every body part. Not to mention a lot of boxers could probably kill you in one punch. It's all about g-force.
MMA is still a baby. Boxing has been around forever. Just wait.
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Well I did mean when corrected for the number of fights that have taken place ;D
It's not going to happen though, boxing is way heavier on impact.
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Boxing is a beautiful art. MMA is raw and animalistic and encoded into our DNA. Whats interesting is that most people would have much less fear getting into a ring with a prime Mike Tyson than they would getting into a ring with an above average MMA guy.The worst that would happen with Tyson is a quick knockout. With an MMA guy, you could actually think you may wind up dead or have a broken neck. MMA is awesome in that respect.
tyson would be beaten badly by a top mma guy
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You must know more than most as the likes of Bas Rutten and Randy Couture have said Tyson wouild be a beast in MMA.
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You must know more than most as the likes of Bas Rutten and Randy Couture have said Tyson wouild be a beast in MMA.
IF he trained mma ... IF
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Epic fail for publicity.Fight will never happen. Overeem would get swallowed whole by either of the klitsch's.
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IF he trained mma ... IF
Are you saying darren the 5foot monster takes things out of context like a dummy?
Anyway, can you imagine if This guy trained MMA? Oh my fucking GOD ;D
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darren is a cool dude...nice parents house btw ;D
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he seems alright, just a little bit too boxing dellusional ;D
he should get into mma, because with that 35 inch reach he would be better of wrestling ;D
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he seems alright, just a little bit too boxing dellusional ;D
he should get into mma, because with that 35 inch reach he would be better of wrestling ;D
brutal lol
people are in love with boxing.. but you saw couture brutalizing toney
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brutal lol
people are in love with boxing.. but you saw couture brutalizing toney
Couture was nice to toney, Waaaaay to nice. He could have littartly kept him on the ground and beat the living shit out of him for Exactly how long he would have wanted to especially after allt he shit toney talked. Instead he was nice to toney and just choked him out. DAMN YOU CAPTAIN AMERICA lol.
Lets see what Ken shamrock does, he will not be as nice as randy thats for sure. He might be fucking stupid and decide to stand for a second or two though which wouldnt be smart, But if he just takes him down toney is in for a world of hurtin'
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Seems like "overeem" has a high "self-esteem".
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brutal lol
people are in love with boxing.. but you saw couture brutalizing toney
The thread is about Overeem getting in a boxing ring to fight the klitschko's. Couture/Toney completely different.
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The thread is about Overeem getting in a boxing ring to fight the klitschko's. Couture/Toney completely different.
reem is the best fighter on the planet right now
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reem is the best fighter on the planet right now
I think Cain takes him.
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reem is the best fighter on the planet right now
not in a boxing ring. :D
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I think Cain takes him.
not even close IMO
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not even close IMO
Cain awesome standup with ...awesome Cardio and thats what I think would make cain win in the third by tko.
Alistar looked Bad against werdum, and part of it was ofc werdum, being a "pussy" and Overeem looked Gassed without doing much really. And cain Never gasses. So he could Push the pase Hard for 3 rounds and that imo would be too much for alistar.
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Cain awesome standup with ...awesome Cardio and thats what I think would make cain win in the third by tko.
Alistar looked Bad against werdum, and part of it was ofc werdum, being a "pussy" and Overeem looked Gassed without doing much really. And cain Never gasses. So he could Push the pase Hard for 3 rounds and that imo would be too much for alistar.
"awesome" stand up? you realize reem brutalized all the BEST stand ups right?
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"awesome" stand up? you realize reem brutalized all the BEST stand ups right?
His standup is awesome but Alistars is better But at Least good enough Not to be ko'd by Alistar. And if Alistar cant ko him. Cain will imo win.
Great wrestling also. He would Make alistar gas and either win by a split decision taking secon and third round or tko in third IMO lol.
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alistair is too strong and fast for him... I don't have anyone close to him honestly
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alistair is too strong and fast for him... I don't have anyone close to him honestly
Cain is faster Overeem.. Overeem Covers up, throws 1-3 punches, Cover up , throws a few, repeat, and thatgs usually good enough. But I dont think thats good enough agains cain.
Hopefullt cain beats jds, Overeem wins the tournament and then Alistar vs Cain.
Kharitonov is my dark horse for the tournament though
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His standup is awesome but Alistars is better But at Least good enough Not to be ko'd by Alistar. And if Alistar cant ko him. Cain will imo win.
Great wrestling also. He would Make alistar gas and either win by a split decision taking secon and third round or tko in third IMO lol.
Yeah, Cain's ground and conditioning would be the decider. Doubtful Dana would let Overeem go for the title, though.
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Cain awesome standup with ...awesome Cardio and thats what I think would make cain win in the third by tko.
Alistar looked Bad against werdum, and part of it was ofc werdum, being a "pussy" and Overeem looked Gassed without doing much really. And cain Never gasses. So he could Push the pase Hard for 3 rounds and that imo would be too much for alistar.
swede my man... ;D i have to correct you on Overeem not doing much.
i don't know if you ever trained mma, but having to do take down defenses again and again drains you real fast!i do agree cardio is not his strenght though... but really cain is not that great..... he beat brock.... not a real fighter... had a rough time against congo.... and about jds, he is good but!... he recently beat carwin.... carwin suckzzz imo... really not a top heavyweight.
overeem is a danger to anybody , although not invinceable...
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I am not a MMA fan but Velasquez would rape that delusional roided Overeem in the cage and Vitali would knock him out Overeem in one round in a boxing match!
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Vitali will probably dodge Alistair. He's too proud/has too big ego to lose in his own dicipline against a K1/mma champ.
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3-5 round fight alistair would have a chance , 10-12 no way
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tyson would be beaten badly by a top mma guy
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3-5 round fight alistair would have a chance , 10-12 no way
every fight should have one round. till the end. doesnt make any sense to have multiple rounds.
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every fight should have one round. till the end. doesnt make any sense to have multiple rounds.
further proof your an idiot...
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further proof your an idiot...
LOL ;D
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spelling police ::)
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spelling police ::)
eef yer gonnu kal sumwun en eedeeot, at leest spel it rite.
BTW, I agree. ;D
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eef yer gonnu kal sumwun en eedeeot, at leest spel it rite.
BTW, I agree. ;D
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good one cankles
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swede my man... ;D i have to correct you on Overeem not doing much.
i don't know if you ever trained mma, but having to do take down defenses again and again drains you real fast!i do agree cardio is not his strenght though... but really cain is not that great..... he beat brock.... not a real fighter... had a rough time against congo.... and about jds, he is good but!... he recently beat carwin.... carwin suckzzz imo... really not a top heavyweight.
overeem is a danger to anybody , although not invinceable...
Yes I have. And ofc he did a little. But the TD defence in his fight was pretty much just taking a step back since Almost all werdum did was just sit down on his ass. And he almost got outsrtuck in the end..
Cains kongo fight was a while back though. I still think he would win against overreem due to cardio.
Anyway, Overeem is Out of the tournament and Cormier is his resplacement. Since overeeems toe hurt too much apparently.
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eef yer gonnu kal sumwun en eedeeot, at leest spel it rite.
BTW, I agree. ;D
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further proof your an idiot...
::) ya cuz in real life when two people are going to fight they really take a breather every few minutes
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::) ya cuz in real life when two people are going to fight they really take a breather every few minutes
its not real life its "entertainment" you idiot , ie the gloves , jock straps etc
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oderus fought a "pro boxer" ... cut him sum slack
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Yes I have. And ofc he did a little. But the TD defence in his fight was pretty much just taking a step back since Almost all werdum did was just sit down on his ass. And he almost got outsrtuck in the end..
Cains kongo fight was a while back though. I still think he would win against overreem due to cardio.
Anyway, Overeem is Out of the tournament and Cormier is his resplacement. Since overeeems toe hurt too much apparently.
i just read it.. fuck!
well, still leaves barnett.. he is gonna win the whole thing.... silva is overrated... and i think sergei will loose to barnett....
they promised overeem the fight in october, now the fight was set to early. left him without time to properly prepare for silva, who is preparing allready for weeks. it was on mixfight.nl , ali and martijn de jong explained the whole thing.
suckzzz though... >:(