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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: mesmorph78 on July 15, 2011, 03:38:07 PM
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I find it funny when people use the word freaky to describe kai greene...
if kai is freaky what is this guy
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Yes, Paul was great. One of my favorites.
It's a shame his career didn't last longer.
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true.... aside from his back he was definetly one of the greats
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Looks like someone borrowed Peabody & Sherman's Wayback machine.
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saw him twice in person, yea he was a beast, Massive forearms
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DUDES FUCKING UNREAL BIG. SOMETIMES I WONDER HOW ITS EVEN POSSIBLE TO BE THAT BIG, BUT THEN I REALIZE THAT IT'S ALL DRUGS. AND IF U GOT THE SANITY, MONEY, AND WILLPOWER TO INVEST IN IT.
EVEN IF I ABUSE, I WONT EVER LOOK LIKE DILLET, BUT ILL LOOK LIKE A FREAK. THE THING IS THESE GUYS ACCEPTED THAT FACT. HIM AND LEVRONE WHENEVER I SEE THEM OR SOME FREAKY BIG PERSON IN REAL LIFE I ALWAYS JUST WANT TO MAKE A BULK 500-700 ORDER FOR AAS, AND ANOTHER FOR GH AND JUST DO THE WHOLE ALL YOU CAN EAT HORMONA BUFFET FOR 6 MONTHS AND JUST BLOW THE FUCK UP.
THIS WHOLE LEAN 190 IS HUGE IN EVERYDAY LIFESTYLE, BUT THAT...THAT DILLET FELLA...THATS HUGE WHEREVER IT IS.
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Paul had sick genetics(excluding back). Absolutely silly physique from the front Heard he was a notoriously lazy trainer though. His posing also sucked.
This is from the first time I saw him in one of the first bodybuilding magazines Id ever bought
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waiting for the inevitable "now" pics.... ::)
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Apparently he was notoriously weak in alot of exercises. His genetics are certainly in the top percentile ever, very few people in history could look the way he did in his prime even with the gear.
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he couldnt even stand still let alone pose,,,,,, was a huge bloke tho
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I find it funny when people use the word freaky to describe kai greene...
if kai is freaky what is this guy
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Look at the second and third pics...look how he does the wrist clasp MM vs the knuckle to knuckle MM. Look at the diff at what it does to the shoulder width---this is why Ruhl does the knuckle to knuckle MM with elbows flared out...it doesn't scrunch up the shoulders like the wrist clasp does.
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that guy, just like the honey badger, didnt gave a fuck. 300mg of dbol every day? he didnt give a shit
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It does appear that way by the photo's. However, Kai built himself a base phyisque(Although only a middle weight without the dope but still a decent physique). Which mean if Kai stopped the drugs and quite lifting, you would still see some good density to his physique. The flip side of that is Paul here. Paul trained with very light weight most of his life and really responded well to hormones. Loved his abombs i'm told. However, we have all seen the pictures of an untrained Paul. Looks like he never touched a weight in his life. ::) So what we have here is two Negro's from opposite side of the spectrum.
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watch bfto 98.. i laughed how freaky he was in that video.. i use to own it on VHS.... im old :(
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watch bfto 98.. i laughed how freaky he was in that video.. i use to own it on VHS.... im old :(
Is this it?
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ya.. but that video is shitty quality
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big big biggest
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Biggest guy I have ever seen.
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Can't wait to see this on ESPN ::)........................ ........................ ........................ ............. wait 8)
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Plus he went so far and was mildly retarded.
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Paul was in a class alllllll himself in terms of freaky physiques. If the good lord would've given Paul a back and some posin' skills, he could've been Mr. O 100 x over. No doubt in my mind. Was my fav. bb'er back in the day. My nickname was ( and still is by a good friend of mine ) " P-DIC " ( Paul Dillet's Illegitimate Child ) when I first started liftin' weights. Hehe. Oh, the good ol days.
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Is this it?
how does he even take off that shirt at 5:25 lolll
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1993 Mr. O:
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Jurassic Paul
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Is this it?
I was totally in awe of these guys back when these videos came out. Guys like Coleman, Dillet, Ray, Levrone, and Flex blow away todays pros. They actually had some personality, and would talk shit to each other and have legit rivalries. I personally don't give a shit about todays pros.
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i can see the comparison of kai to paul as far as being the freakshows in their eras,kai has what paul lacked in abbundance though,a back and posing skills.
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I was totally in awe of these guys back when these videos came out. Guys like Coleman, Dillet, Ray, Levrone, and Flex blow away todays pros. They actually had some personality, and would talk shit to each ohter and have legit rivalries. I personally don't give a shit about todays pros.
"Oh, and a message to Levrone....You say you hear me knocking? I don't knock on doors, I knock them over..."
and "he" was pissed when Levrone beat him at the 96 AC.
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Didn't he used to suck his thumb while he was working out? I think it's in that VHS vid too...
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i can see the comparison of kai to paul as far as being the freakshows in their eras,kai has what paul lacked in abbundance though,a back and posing skills.
And Paul has him beat everywhere else...
This back being most important bodypart is garbage
Paul make Kai look like garbage
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I was totally in awe of these guys back when these videos came out. Guys like Coleman, Dillet, Ray, Levrone, and Flex blow away todays pros. They actually had some personality, and would talk shit to each other and have legit rivalries. I personally don't give a shit about todays pros.
yeah, because they were bigger fucking idiots than the bbers today.
it's a huge pageant / masturbation festival which has no objective judgment criteria, so not like there's a real "rivalry". ::)
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What is Dillet into now? Is he still small, is he involved in the gym industry ?
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"Oh, and a message to Levrone....You say you hear me knocking? I don't knock on doors, I knock them over..."
and "he" was pissed when Levrone beat him at the 96 AC.
Kinda funny that he's talking smack after Levrone basically 1-uped him his entire career until the 96' Grand Prix shows
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yeah, because they were bigger fucking idiots than the bbers today.
it's a huge pageant / masturbation festival which has no objective judgment criteria, so not like there's a real "rivalry". ::)
No they weren't. Are you claiming that guys like Yates, Coleman, Ray etc.... weren't 1000x more professional then todays bodybuilders? Even 3rd tier pros like Mattarazzo (sp?) were more interesting then Jay Cutler!
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What is Dillet into now? Is he still small, is he involved in the gym industry ?
He has female physique organizationKinda funny that he's talking smack after Levrone basically 1-uped him his entire career until the 96' Grand Prix shows
Well, Flex was the "rising star" when he uttered those words on tape, 1 week prior to the 93 O.
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What is Dillet into now? Is he still small, is he involved in the gym industry ?
He runs the WBFF.
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Flex looks unreal there -- perfect.
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1993 Mr. O:
His posing was atrocious, but worse was him trying to pose like Shawn Ray. That was one of the worst routines in MR. O history. Dillet was a freak but the guy is a fuking moron.
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His posing was atrocious, but worse was him trying to pose like Shawn Ray. That was one of the worst routines in MR. O history. Dillet was a freak but the guy is a fuking moron.
i read mewhere that he could not pose because he had chronic delt problems
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Kinda funny that he's talking smack after Levrone basically 1-uped him his entire career until the 96' Grand Prix shows
Flex was better than Kevin and got robbed that one Arnold he beat Flex (flex coming back from the car accident) I remember the crowd booing when Flex was announced 2nd. Kevin was good, Flex was better.
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i read mewhere that he could not pose because he had chronic delt problems
Arnold said he just needed to practice more. :D
Nah, but shaking aside, he shouldn't be posing to sissy R&B music. He's not pretty and not Shawn Ray so he didn't even come close to pulling those retarded routines off.
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flex was alway better than levrone....
aside from delt..
he beat kevin everywhere else
i even prefer flex tris
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Flex was better than Kevin and got robbed that one Arnold he beat Flex (flex coming back from the car accident) I remember the crowd booing when Flex was announced 2nd. Kevin was good, Flex was better.
Oh sorry, I was talking about Levrone owning Dillett throughout the majority of Dillett's career. I was assuming that was a Dillett quote, but I guess it wasn't.
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Funny tidbit for anyone who cares. Dillet once remarked that his arms were so big and felt so heavy that he'd have to stick them in his pants pockets. Lol. I'm not kiddin'. And, shit, when you look at how big his arms were, you feel somewhat inclined to believe him ! :D
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Funny tidbit for anyone who cares. Dillet once remarked that his arms were so big and felt so heavy that he'd have to stick them in his pants pockets. Lol. I'm not kiddin'. And, shit, when you look at how big his arms were, you feel somewhat inclined to believe him ! :D
I believe it because he was a lazy shit. Dude pussy footed in the gym, had piss poor work ethic and would stop a workout short once he was starting to feel a little uncomfortable. Dillet's attribute 100% was steroid receptors and genetics.
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Freakenstein had SUPERB genetics and his body responded well
Nowadays he is living healthier lifestyle though!
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I believe it because he was a lazy shit. Dude pussy footed in the gym, had piss poor work ethic and would stop a workout short once he was starting to feel a little uncomfortable. Dillet's attribute 100% was steroid receptors and genetics.
Thing is, he had several shoulder surgeries, and the doctors told him he had no cartilage in his shoulders---just grinding bone on bone, yet he continued...
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Freakenstein had SUPERB genetics and his body responded well
Nowadays he is living healthier lifestyle though!
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ya, scammin people out of their money is his bs organization.
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Thing is, he had several shoulder surgeries, and the doctors told him he had no cartilage in his shoulders---just grinding bone on bone, yet he continued...
Vanity. It wasn't due to work ethic, it was just his vanity that kept him going.
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Vanity. It wasn't due to work ethic, it was just his vanity that kept him going.
I'll tell you one thing, he looks better now---facially, than he did back then...
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He just looks older to me
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Thats one hot lesbo right there!
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That's either a bet or someone is delusional retarded.
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Dillet = pussy light weight training...
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Kai would wipe the floor with Paul not even close.
Kai is complete, Paul is not complete. nuff said.
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Dillet = pussy light weight training...
x 1,000,000
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Does Paul's organization give an award for "best poser"? I wonder if Paul is the person who decides who the best poser is? Kinda funny. Like Arnold giving away the best actor award at the Oscars.
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Maybe he hands out the Best Stage Cramp award...
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Kai would wipe the floor with Paul not even close.
Kai is complete, Paul is not complete. nuff said.
no kai compared to paul look like a bag of hit...
paul flows btter and body part for bodypart blows kai away
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Kai would wipe the floor with Paul not even close.
Kai is complete, Paul is not complete. nuff said.
Check Paul Dillett going against Flex at the 93 Ironman
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Check Paul Dillett going against Flex at the 93 Ironman
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ha ha kai could only dream to look like that....
kai has a wide back good legs thats it
even the shape of his back falls behind heath dex etc....
wide waiste...
paul is freaky but at the same time has an amazing build
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Kai would wipe the floor with Paul not even close.
Kai is complete, Paul is not complete. nuff said.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
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Please gentlemen ::)
Shape is good but it's not everything...ask Yates and Cutler with a total of 10 Mr. O's.
Kai kills I mean just absolutely destroys Paul in conditioning and posing
and from the back (in which shows are won),it's not even close...Kai wins...
Open your eyes the only thing impressive about paul is how he can get the physique he had with the pussy training regiment and intensity he had....
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ha ha kai could only dream to look like that....
kai has a wide back good legs thats it
even the shape of his back falls behind heath dex etc....
wide waiste...
paul is freaky but at the same time has an amazing build
Oh yeah, kai just has "good" legs ::) Please we know your feelings about Kai so it's useless to have a reasonable conversation with you about him
Kai has the BEST legs in bodybuilding right now some of the best conditioning if now the best, EVERYBODY PART is full developed, conditioned separated and most important he is able to display his physique...Yes, Kai has a wide waist and he's still better than paul...All I need to do is post one shot of Paul in a BDB shot and any talk about how awesome he is can be halted.
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Please gentlemen ::)
Shape is good but it's not everything...ask Yates and Cutler with a total of 10 Mr. O's.
Kai kills I mean just absolutely destroys Paul in conditioning and posing
and from the back (in which shows are won),it's not even close...Kai wins...
Open your eyes the only thing impressive about paul is how he can get the physique he had with the pussy training regiment and intensity he had....
wouldnt quite put dorian and jay in the same league...
kai is ok but could never compete in the era paul competed in
nowhere close wig....
kai isnt balanced..... no flow
even cormier said it he looks boxy
could kai even place top 10 in any of the olympias paul placed in ... againt dorian kevin ronnie shawncormier ...even baker....
not close....
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wouldnt quite put dorian and jay in the same league...
kai is ok but could never compete in the era paul competed in
nowhere close wig....
kai isnt balanced..... no flow
even cormier said it he looks boxy
could kai even place top 10 in any of the olympias paul placed in ... againt dorian kevin ronnie shawncormier ...even baker....
not close....
Yes, Kai could and after he wins the O this year, you'll understand why.
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Yes, Kai could and after he wins the O this year, you'll understand why.
he may win the o
but he wouldnt even place top 10 in any of those O's from the p0's...
nasser coleman kevin ray cormier dillet dillet flex... etc
no way
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Since this was Kai's last appearance, please tell me who would beat this from the old era?
Ronnie, Dorian, Flex (only if he's in shape....flip a coin),
Dexter? No...Kai beats him regularly now.
Cormier? lol...if in shape....good luck with that.
Nassole? fuck no.
Ray? Nope, much to small and Kai is in better condition
Give me some names based on the video I posted...I gotta hear this...Kai L. Greene is a true mutant....If he competed back in the 90s the ONLY person that would beat him would be Yates...for now....Coleman would always destroy Kai...because he's Ronnie...There might be others that could get him if he was off but consistantly Kai is better than everyone else even with the wide waist. too much muscle, too much conditioning and separation and posing is too awesome.
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No matter what, people are always interested in strength and the training part of bodybuilding.
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Since this was Kai's last appearance, please tell me who would beat this from the old era?
Ronnie, Dorian, Flex (only if he's in shape....flip a coin),
Dexter? No...Kai beats him regularly now.
Cormier? lol...if in shape....good luck with that.
Nassole? fuck no.
Ray? Nope, much to small and Kai is in better condition
Give me some names based on the video I posted...I gotta hear this...
dexter is pat his prime now,.... in 03 and before he beats that
kevin beats that shawn ray beats that nasser vbeats that.. coleman at even 60 beats kai
cormier before 06 beats that...
come on wiggs....
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all in shape
dillet ray kevin cormier coleman dorian naser flex etc
kai no chance..
he whole phsyique is out of whack
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dexter is pat his prime now,.... in 03 and before he beats that
kevin beats that shawn ray beats that nasser vbeats that.. coleman at even 60 beats kai
cormier before 06 beats that...
come on wiggs....
Dex won Olympia in 08. Kai's 09 Arnold Classic physique is better than Mr. O Dex.
Forgot about Levrone, this is close, very close, as many know I'm not a big Levrone fan his BDB was never as good as Ray, Wheeler, Colman, Cormier and now Kai...Kai wins....barely. They would go back and forth depending on conditioning. If they are both 100%, Kai wins.
Please show me video or pics where Corimer beats kai....anytime even 1999 Olympia, Kai is better.
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I think you're giving too much credit to the 90's how about you post video of these guys in whatever shape...You'll see the difference in size and conditioning.
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wiggs yu like kai and thats fine
kai at his all time best shouldnt even be mentioned in the same sentence as dexter at his best
and i think 03 dexter was better than 08
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So your saying Kai greene is better than Cormier....?
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you would compare that mishapen kai greene
to that....
no wiggs
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the only way for kai to look better than that i to be reborn with better genetics
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you would compare that mishapen kai greene
to that....
no wiggs
Chris looks great holding a slight film of water...Kai is bigger and better.
Dexter looks 198lbs here are you kidding?
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wiggs are you serious... that blop of poo over cormier...
hahahhaha come on kay doesnt have a physique hes a mash of bodyparts nothing matches
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Chris kills Kai. Kai is a freak but just not nearly as pleasing aesthetically
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Paul MURDERS Kai. A prime Cormier MURDERS Kai. And I like Kai ! Matter of fact, google " Paul Dillet " and you'll find a couple pics of his BDB. And, honestly, he looks pretty good in the pics. Not great, of course ! But pretty damn good.
Some of you have to understand. Paul competed in an era ( and placed HIGH in quite a few shows ) where damn near EVERYONE looked flawless. Ray, Levrone, Cormier, Coleman, Yates, Cottrell ( sp. ? ), Francois, Wheeler, etc., etc. That's a TOUGH list of competitors. The majority of the pro's competin' today would get their asses handed to them by these guys. That is pure fact ! Do any of you even remember how national-level competitors looked back in the day ?? They looked INSANELY impressive ! E. Fletcher ring a bell ? How about M. Mendenhall ? These are just a couple guys that would KILL today's pro's. Of course, in the end, this is all based on my personal feelings on the issue.
Quite simply, Paul had an extremely impressive physique. Weak points were his back as well as posin'. That's it. 6 feet tall, long muscle bellies, of african-american descent WITH CALVES, and a host of other things. The man wasn't called, " Freakenstein " for nothin'.
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Paul MURDERS Kai. A prime Cormier MURDERS Kai. And I like Kai ! Matter of fact, google " Paul Dillet " and you'll find a couple pics of his BDB. And, honestly, he looks pretty good in the pics. Not great, of course ! But pretty damn good.
Some of you have to understand. Paul competed in an era ( and placed HIGH in quite a few shows ) where damn near EVERYONE looked flawless. Ray, Levrone, Cormier, Coleman, Yates, Cottrell ( sp. ? ), Francois, Wheeler, etc., etc. That's a TOUGH list of competitors. The majority of the pro's competin' today would get their asses handed to them by these guys. That is pure fact ! Do any of you even remember how national-level competitors looked back in the day ?? They looked INSANELY impressive ! E. Fletcher ring a bell ? How about M. Mendenhall ? These are just a couple guys that would KILL today's pro's. Of course, in the end, this is all based on my personal feelings on the issue.
Quite simply, Paul had an extremely impressive physique. Weak points were his back as well as posin'. That's it. 6 feet tall, long muscle bellies, of african-american descent WITH CALVES, and a host of other things. The man wasn't called, " Freakenstein " for nothin'.
Say it again kai wouldnt even place top 10 in a mr o show back then...
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Hard to say, Meso. Kai's is a pretty complete bb'er with a VERY, VERY impressive back as well as equally impressive legs. Really hard to say, in fact. :/Hard to say, Meso. Kai's is a pretty complete bb'er with a VERY, VERY impressive back as well as equally impressive legs. Really hard to say, in fact. :/
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If kai is a freak, paul is an aestethic freak in comparison.
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the only way for kai to look better than that i to be reborn with better genetics
i love kai but thats the truth
Chris looks great holding a slight film of water...Kai is bigger and better.
Dexter looks 198lbs here are you kidding?
cormier pwns kai. his shape and symetry is out of this world to die for. kai is more freaky but bodybuilding isnt just about the freaky. in this case beauty beats the beast cuz the beauty is quite beastly.
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LOL @ dumb bitch screaming her fucking lungs out at the end when flex is called the winner? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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i love kai but thats the truth
cormier pwns kai. his shape and symetry is out of this world to die for. kai is more freaky but bodybuilding isnt just about the freaky. in this case beauty beats the beast cuz the beauty is quite beastly.
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kai shouldnt be even be mentioned in the same sentence as cormier
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Hard to say, Meso. Kai's is a pretty complete bb'er with a VERY, VERY impressive back as well as equally impressive legs. Really hard to say, in fact. :/Hard to say, Meso. Kai's is a pretty complete bb'er with a VERY, VERY impressive back as well as equally impressive legs. Really hard to say, in fact. :/
ha ha ha
and thats it... paul was missing a back to match the front
NOTHING flows on kais body his back is big and lats insert low
even that doesnt flow on his body because his torso is short
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Paul competed in an era ( and placed HIGH in quite a few shows ) where damn near EVERYONE looked flawless. Ray, Levrone, Cormier, Coleman, Yates, Cottrell ( sp. ? ), Francois, Wheeler, etc., etc.
nasser, preist, taylor, aaron baker, pierre fux, charles clairmont, matarazzo, munzer, milos, roland..
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ha ha ha
and thats it... paul was missing a back to match the front
NOTHING flows on kais body his back is big and lats insert low
even that doesnt flow on his body because his torso is short
I like you, Meso, but why you dislike Kai so much ? It's pretty evident when readin' your posts. Kai's physique may not have the best " flow " to it, however, with the current competition, he reigns supreme. He hasn't just won shows, Meso. He's completely OWNED them and all his competitors. So, yes, he may not have " flow " to his physique, but his bodyparts are so freaky in comparion, that he can't be rivaled.
I've said this a million times, folks ... our current Mr. O is an absolute disgrace to bb'ing in terms of physique ( not personality, mind you ). Kai WILL be Mr. O this year IF he nails it ( which I'm 90 % sure he will ! ). What we really need is an amateur to come into the pro ranks and blow the other competitors away with a 90's-type physique. But ... * sigh * ... I don't see that happenin' anytime soon, unfortunately.
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nasser, preist, taylor, aaron baker, pierre fux, charles clairmont, matarazzo, munzer, milos, roland..
Yes. Thank you addin' to my list ... although ... I don't particulary care for Nasser ( back worse than Dillet's ), Aaron ( holds more water than the Pacific Ocean ), J.P ( never came in as conditioned as he should've ), Roland ( too damn tall and always, imo, looked real lanky next to the competition ... like a Ralph Mueller clone ... although, again imo, a better version ). The rest of the list is perfect. Especially Clairmont.
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true.... aside from his back he was definetly one of the greats
aside from his back and HIS HORRIBLE WAY OF POSING!!..
i think he presented his very best early in his very first years as a pro then got bored after realizing he was not going to win big shows like the olympia and the AC.. after 96 i dont think he presented anything close to his best even when he won the NOC!!..
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You'll all be jumping on the Kai bandwagon big style in September, mark my words.
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Yes. Thank you addin' to my list ... although ... I don't particulary care for Nasser ( back worse than Dillet's ), Aaron ( holds more water than the Pacific Ocean ), J.P ( never came in as conditioned as he should've ), Roland ( too damn tall and always, imo, looked real lanky next to the competition ... like a Ralph Mueller clone ... although, again imo, a better version ). The rest of the list is perfect. Especially Clairmont.
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Funny thing is I actually like Kai ... He's the underdog the guy who made it against all odds ... A very cool character humble never arrogant... His build is good for today's standard where shape means nothing see branch and to some extent Jay.... What pisses me off is when people compare him to Coleman ... Flex Or says he's dillet or Cormier Sean Kevin etc... No way it would be cool to see him win but let's not get carried away in today's climate bbers don't even have to look good to win shows .. Just big and conditioned ...
Kai is good in this climate ... Wouldn't place in the 90's
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Funny thing is I actually like Kai ... He's the underdog the guy who made it against all odds ... A very cool character humble never arrogant... His build is good for today's standard where shape means nothing see branch and to some extent Jay.... What pisses me off is when people compare him to Coleman ... Flex Or says he's dillet or Cormier Sean Kevin etc... No way it would be cool to see him win but let's not get carried away in today's climate bbers don't even have to look good to win shows .. Just big and conditioned ...
Kai is good in this climate ... Wouldn't place in the 90's
I think you're dead wrong, here. He's got some flaws, sure. But his ridiculous legs, and his back!? He's definitely winning, or figuring in the top spots.
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Funny thing is I actually like Kai ... He's the underdog the guy who made it against all odds ... A very cool character humble never arrogant... His build is good for today's standard where shape means nothing see branch and to some extent Jay.... What pisses me off is when people compare him to Coleman ... Flex Or says he's dillet or Cormier Sean Kevin etc... No way it would be cool to see him win but let's not get carried away in today's climate bbers don't even have to look good to win shows .. Just big and conditioned ...
Kai is good in this climate ... Wouldn't place in the 90's
Thing is, Kai is getting better and better and he's only going to keep doing so. From the rear, he's unstoppable.(no homo)
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I think you're dead wrong, here. He's got some flaws, sure. But his ridiculous legs, and his back!? He's definitely winning, or figuring in the top spots.
Exactly.
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Yes Kai is good in this time period .. But back then he'd get blown away ... That's all I'm sayin
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Yes Kai is good in this time period .. But back then he'd get blown away ... That's all I'm sayin
Got it. Sorry. Can't agree. And, can he not get rid of that hair nobble!? Awful!
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Kai = 5'6" pregnant midget with no traps, Paluboism
Dillett = 6'2" wide as a house, best arms ever, best genetics ever, best muscle bellies ever
yeh its really close...not
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Kai = 5'6" pregnant midget with no traps, Paluboism
Dillett = 6'2" wide as a house, best arms ever, best genetics ever, best muscle bellies ever
yeh its really close...not
Big? Yes. But guy was as animated as a zombie = no titles. ;)
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Always see Paul, nicest guy in the world, told me the story of him and Flex's (wheeler) first visit to the Weider office.....He was scheduled to go right after the north American championships, had no money whatsoever took a one way plane ticket not knowing what to expect, when he got there met with Flex and went in to talk to Weider together....that's when Weider told them that they are working for him and they will each make 100 000 dollars per year for the first 2 years (contract)... they both where like "what" out of shock that they hit the jackpot, then Weider misunderstood them and said..."fine,I will give you guys 120 000..."... when they left they where extremely happy and the next day they both when out and bought 2 brand new corvettes...lol, This is the story directly from Paul himself, don't know for sure if its 100% true or if the figures are exaggerated or what, I certainly believe Paul as we all know Weider was a lot more generous in the 90's.
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only homosexuals care about posing
if you are an intelligent fan of BBing all that matters is who has built the best physique. I don't even need to see paul pose at all just stand there to realize he has the best physique
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only homosexuals care about posing
if you are an intelligent fan of BBing all that matters is who has built the best physique. I don't even need to see paul pose at all just stand there to realize he has the best physique
Cool. Homos aside. How about the fact that he's been 'retired' for years now...how does that effect your plan for him to realize the best physique?
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only homosexuals care about posing
if you are an intelligent fan of BBing all that matters is who has built the best physique. I don't even need to see paul pose at all just stand there to realize he has the best physique
exactly, posing is gay.
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Big? Yes. But guy was as animated as a zombie = no titles. ;)
Paul won a NOC, I think 99 or 2000Always see Paul, nicest guy in the world, told me the story of him and Flex's (wheeler) first visit to the Weider office.....He was scheduled to go right after the north American championships, had no money whatsoever took a one way plane ticket not knowing what to expect, when he got there met with Flex and went in to talk to Weider together....that's when Weider told them that they are working for him and they will each make 100 000 dollars per year for the first 2 years (contract)... they both where like "what" out of shock that they hit the jackpot, then Weider misunderstood them and said..."fine,I will give you guys 120 000..."... when they left they where extremely happy and the next day they both when out and bought 2 brand new corvettes...lol, This is the story directly from Paul himself, don't know for sure if its 100% true or if the figures are exaggerated or what, I certainly believe Paul as we all know Weider was a lot more generous in the 90's.
There wa Flex Wheeler interview in MM, he said that after he broke his neck his contract was cut down to 125k, which was about a 3rd or 4th of what his contract with Weider was---Weider had basically blamed the accident on Flex---kinda like the Jason Williams bike incident
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imo kai at his best could have placed well in the 90s but would not have been a top 3 at the olympia..
for example if he competed at his best at AC 97 he would have come 4th or 3rd maximum!!..
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Off-season @ FIBO:
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My apologies. I was referin' to Roland Kickinger ( sp. ? ), not Roland C. Roland C., I like. :)
And this next paragraph is in response to a couple of posters on page 5 :
1 ) Since when did traps REALLY make a difference in bb'ing ? Traps are pretty much likened to calves. They are just small muscle groups that add a little extra to a physique. Sooooo, Kai has small traps ? So fuckin' what ! LOL ! The rest of his bodyparts are SO FREAKY, that no one really gives two shits about the traps. I mean, come on, the guy's won how many shows now ? Do you honestly think the judges care about Kai's traps ? LOL. Get real, man !
2 ) Yes, Kai has a big belly. A LOT of the competitors do. They all, more or less, use the same cocktail.
3 ) Kai's a midget, huh ? I take it you've never seen Kai in person ? Yup, he's shorter than Coleman ( whom he's usually compared to ), no midget. Some of you seems to forget bb'ing is FULL of short people. If you disagree with me, then you plain don't know shit about bb'ing. Fact.
4 ) Posing is gay ? Posing is part of bb'ing. Has been that was since the beginning of time. Get over it. Kai is a GREAT poser. Sure, he's no Ed Corney, but this is 2011. Some things evolve ... for better or for worse. :/
That's it. Too much Kai hate goin' on lately. The guy is probably one of the nicest, most humble people you'll ever meet in your lives. The man is an artist and philosopher all wrapped up in a bb'er shell. Imo, speaks MUCH better than our last two olympians. Jmo, though.
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One more thing. This goes our to Sherief. STOP with the Nasser BULLSHIT ! Seriously ! You treat the man as if he's a God or somethin'. It's disgustin', really. Nasser was ok. Just " ok ". And please don't talk to me about his high placings ! Lol. He got those because he was the biggest, hardest, and freakiest ... wait for it .............. FROM THE FRONT ! Nasser from the rear made Paul Dillet look like a prime Ronnie Coleman. Just terrible ! So, please, stop with the Nasser bullshit. He's no uncrowned Mr. Olympia. His placings were fair. Perhaps, too fair, at times. :/
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One more thing. This goes our to Sherief. STOP with the Nasser BULLSHIT ! Seriously ! You treat the man as if he's a God or somethin'. It's disgustin', really. Nasser was ok. Just " ok ". And please don't talk to me about his high placings ! Lol. He got those because he was the biggest, hardest, and freakiest ... wait for it .............. FROM THE FRONT ! Nasser from the rear made Paul Dillet look like a prime Ronnie Coleman. Just terrible ! So, please, stop with the Nasser bullshit. He's no uncrowned Mr. Olympia. His placings were fair. Perhaps, too fair, at times. :/
come on i didnt mention nasser,.. i just mentioned AC 97 as an example of 90s bb :P
but since you are mentioning nasser,.. i agree with you from the front at his best he was better than all the other top pros in his era (and in the next/current era).. and sure his back was his main weak point (condition wise) but i see it a real weak point in the RDB pose only,.. in the RLS pose he it looked ok when being with guys like ray, levrone, and, wheeler.. none of these guys was great in this pose.. and paul's back was worse than nasser's especially in the RLS..
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Would you really say Kai has a good physique ...
Forget size ?
Does he have a better physique than dillet Nasser Coleman flex shawn marko ray Kevin cormier clairmonte baker Nasser
No way .. He has big legs and a big back
He has zero flow... His arms are big but doesn't flow as his torso is too big zero traps so his neck disappears in the fdb ... Huge legs that don't even match his upper org short short torso
Good for today's bbing scene not for the 90
Even Cormier dissed him (I don't think that was cool) said he looks like a frog
Flex said he looks boxy
... compare Kai to victor before he tore his quad ??
No because victor has a physique that flows
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nasser with a good back at +260 pounds ;D
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My apologies. I was referin' to Roland Kickinger ( sp. ? ), not Roland C. Roland C., I like. :)
And this next paragraph is in response to a couple of posters on page 5 :
1 ) Since when did traps REALLY make a difference in bb'ing ? Traps are pretty much likened to calves. They are just small muscle groups that add a little extra to a physique. Sooooo, Kai has small traps ? So fuckin' what ! LOL ! The rest of his bodyparts are SO FREAKY, that no one really gives two shits about the traps. I mean, come on, the guy's won how many shows now ? Do you honestly think the judges care about Kai's traps ? LOL. Get real, man !
2 ) Yes, Kai has a big belly. A LOT of the competitors do. They all, more or less, use the same cocktail.
3 ) Kai's a midget, huh ? I take it you've never seen Kai in person ? Yup, he's shorter than Coleman ( whom he's usually compared to ), no midget. Some of you seems to forget bb'ing is FULL of short people. If you disagree with me, then you plain don't know shit about bb'ing. Fact.
4 ) Posing is gay ? Posing is part of bb'ing. Has been that was since the beginning of time. Get over it. Kai is a GREAT poser. Sure, he's no Ed Corney, but this is 2011. Some things evolve ... for better or for worse. :/
That's it. Too much Kai hate goin' on lately. The guy is probably one of the nicest, most humble people you'll ever meet in your lives. The man is an artist and philosopher all wrapped up in a bb'er shell. Imo, speaks MUCH better than our last two olympians. Jmo, though.
Big Traps are one of the tell tale signs of a good bodybuilder...they are a glaring weakness
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come on i didnt mention nasser,.. i just mentioned AC 97 as an example of 90s bb :P
but since you are mentioning nasser,.. i agree with you from the front at his best he was better than all the other top pros in his era (and in the next/current era).. and sure his back was his main weak point (condition wise) but i see it a real weak point in the RDB pose only,.. in the RLS pose he it looked ok when being with guys like ray, levrone, and, wheeler.. none of these guys was great in this pose.. and paul's back was worse than nasser's especially in the RLS..
Uhhh ... you posted a vid of Nasser in your previous reply. How did you miss that ? Perhaps, too much Nasser on the brain ? He's now flooding your sub-conscious ? LOL !
Listen, I've wached MANY " Nasser On The Way ... " vids. His back CLEARLY was a huge weak point. If I were able to ( I'm postin' from my phone ), I'd throw up a couple BDB pics of Dillet that looked pretty damn good and, imo, much better than Nasser's. The only thing I remember when watchin' old Nasser vids is this ... why is his back so flat ?? Where's the thickness ? I don't know how ANYONE could miss this ! Lol. Oh, well. And, NO, NO, NO ! Nasser was not the greatest of his era from the front ! Are you insane ??? His arms aren't nearly as big as they should be for a man of his size. Primarily due to his weak triceps. You need to wake up, dude. Seriously. WAKE UP.
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Iron disciple
Would you really say Kai has a good physique ...
Forget size ?
Does he have a better physique than dillet Nasser Coleman flex shawn marko ray Kevin cormier clairmonte baker Nasser
No way .. He has big legs and a big back
He has zero flow... His arms are big but doesn't flow as his torso is too big zero traps so his neck disappears in the fdb ... Huge legs that don't even match his upper org short short torso
Good for today's bbing scene not for the 90
Even Cormier dissed him (I don't think that was cool) said he looks like a frog
Flex said he looks boxy
... compare Kai to victor before he tore his quad ??
No because victor has a physique that flows
Yes. Yes, I would. Your too caught up in " flow " and " beauty ". Do you really think bb'ing is about beauty ? LOLOLOL ! Ever heard of the NOC show ? That's where the freaks came out to play. No beautiful physiques there ! Not a lot of flow there ! Why do you think bb'ing has taken a HUGE step back over the years, Meso ??? Because judges and FANS want to see BBBBIIIIIGGGGGGGGG bb'ers. They want to see FFFRREEEAAAKKKKSSS ! Kai brings a freakish physique to the stage with " beautiful " posing. Simple as that. Last I checked, the crowd LOVES him.
Answer me this GetBig ... who do the fans cheer for more :
1 ) Dareem Charles with his classic physique, beautiful lines, flowing muscles, and artistic posing ?
OR
2 ) Markus Ruhl who's just a walking freak of fucking nature ?
There's your answer, Meso. Kai's just not good for the current time period. He's pretty close to perfect.
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Paul won a NOC, I think 99 or 2000There wa Flex Wheeler interview in MM, he said that after he broke his neck his contract was cut down to 125k, which was about a 3rd or 4th of what his contract with Weider was---Weider had basically blamed the accident on Flex---kinda like the Jason Williams bike incident
Certainly, however the contract I am speaking of was 2 years only and was givan before his pro debut...the Ironman, which he won beating labrada and then the Arnold's and second at the O... the contract you speak of would have been at the beginning of a second new contract after having dramatic credentials added to his resume if you will...so 300- 400k sounds about right
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Big Traps are one of the tell tale signs of a good bodybuilder...they are a glaring weakness
All right then, Groink. Let's just e-mail and call EVERY single judge that's ever judged Kai's contests. I'm sure we can get them to take back all of Kai's 1rst-place trophies ( which is A LOT ) because his traps are too small.
Hell, guys, if traps mean that much than Johnnie O. Jackson should be Mr. O by now ! This is asinine. Traps complete the physique, however, it SHOULD BE obvious to all of you that it's NOT a necessity. Kai has proved and will prove that even further this fall.
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Big Traps are one of the tell tale signs of a good bodybuilder...they are a glaring weakness
This is too obvious a flaw for a pro at Kai's level. Is it genetics, laziness or injury?
How common is it to tear the trapezuis?
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I have nothing against freaks my favourite bber and the GREATEST OF ALL TIME ronnie Coleman is a great but he had flow .. His arms matched his body so did his legs and back...
Kai has no flow ...
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Off-season @ FIBO:
this video of JP fux from AC 96 (his 2nd pro. contest)!!.. it's funny he presented his best shape in his first pro. year then became worse and worse every year!!.. his main weak point was his uncontrollable waist and naturally strange looking abs muscles!!..
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One more thing. This goes our to Sherief. STOP with the Nasser BULLSHIT ! Seriously ! You treat the man as if he's a God or somethin'. It's disgustin', really. Nasser was ok. Just " ok ". And please don't talk to me about his high placings ! Lol. He got those because he was the biggest, hardest, and freakiest ... wait for it .............. FROM THE FRONT ! Nasser from the rear made Paul Dillet look like a prime Ronnie Coleman. Just terrible ! So, please, stop with the Nasser bullshit. He's no uncrowned Mr. Olympia. His placings were fair. Perhaps, too fair, at times. :/
ARENT U A GH 15 PUPIL OR SOMETHING? ISNT GH NASSER?
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ARENT U A GH 15 PUPIL OR SOMETHING? ISNT GH NASSER?
More or less, yes. Most things Gh15 says I agree with. Personally though, I feel Gh15 is Dennis James. The way he speaks is very much like D.J and not Nasser, imo. I could be wrong though. Lol.
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Good. Now have them turn around.
Game, set, match ! 8)
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Good. Now have them turn around.
Game, set, match ! 8)
Half the battle right there
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Good. Now have them turn around.
Game, set, match ! 8)
ok throw to kai the 2 back poses then the wizard is still the winner as he is better in all the other mandatory + MM poses ;D
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big big biggest
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FulblOWNED 8)
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dilet was from montreal . huge but way too vascular to my taste
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Emperors new clothes. Kai has the same strengths and weaknesses that Dorian had but he is better.....
Personally i can't stand that type of physique though Kai seems like a good guy.
Also Sherief, Nasser was nowhere near Flex, Cormier, Levrone, Ray and others from the front.
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More or less, yes. Most things Gh15 says I agree with. Personally though, I feel Gh15 is Dennis James. The way he speaks is very much like D.J and not Nasser, imo. I could be wrong though. Lol.
HE'S NASSER. HE GIVES IT AWAY, HE WONT ACKNOWLEDGE IT, BUT HE WANTS TO GIVE IT AWAY.
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Emperors new clothes. Kai has the same strengths and weaknesses that Dorian had but he is better.....
Personally i can't stand that type of physique though Kai seems like a good guy.
Also Sherief, Nasser was nowhere near Flex, Cormier, Levrone, Ray and others from the front.
so how do you think he beat them all many times while they all had better backs??..
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so how do you think he beat them all many times while they all had better backs??..
many times....
are you saying nasser beat flex more times than flex beat him...
same with kevin or shawn?
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many times....
are you saying nasser beat flex more times than flex beat him...
same with kevin or shawn?
no i didnt say he beat them more than they did.. read well my boy.. someone said all these guys were better than the wizard from the front so i asked him if they were really better from the front (and we all agree they were better from the rear) so how come he beat them many times??.. if they were really better from both the front and the rear so nasser wouldn't have any chance.. can you get my point now??..
and by the way nasser beat big ron more times than ronnie beat him!!..
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i saw paul lately n look healthy , his federation wbff do well , no more a monster but still , healthy
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Good. Now have them turn around.
Game, set, match ! 8)
Forget them turning around Kai has him in this pic anyway on striated outer sweep, better v-taper and shoulder tricep seperation.
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chiwawa owning them all, as usual...team ray ftw!!!
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no i didnt say he beat them more than they did.. read well my boy.. someone said all these guys were better than the wizard from the front so i asked him if they were really better from the front (and we all agree they were better from the rear) so how come he beat them many times??.. if they were really better from both the front and the rear so nasser wouldn't have any chance.. can you get my point now??..
and by the way nasser beat big ron more times than ronnie beat him!!..
You lost me at "my boy"
Meso = very full grown man