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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #100 on: July 17, 2011, 08:26:46 PM »
I think you're dead wrong, here. He's got some flaws, sure. But his ridiculous legs, and his back!? He's definitely winning, or figuring in the top spots.   

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #101 on: July 17, 2011, 08:33:55 PM »
Yes Kai is good in this time period .. But back then he'd get blown away ... That's all I'm sayin
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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #102 on: July 17, 2011, 08:40:32 PM »
Yes Kai is good in this time period .. But back then he'd get blown away ... That's all I'm sayin
Got it. Sorry. Can't agree. And, can he not get rid of that hair nobble!? Awful!


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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #103 on: July 17, 2011, 09:25:09 PM »
Kai = 5'6" pregnant midget with no traps, Paluboism

Dillett = 6'2" wide as a house, best arms ever, best genetics ever, best muscle bellies ever

yeh its really close...not

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #104 on: July 17, 2011, 09:34:22 PM »
Kai = 5'6" pregnant midget with no traps, Paluboism

Dillett = 6'2" wide as a house, best arms ever, best genetics ever, best muscle bellies ever

yeh its really close...not
Big? Yes. But guy was as animated as a zombie = no titles.  ;) 

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #105 on: July 17, 2011, 09:47:28 PM »
Always see Paul, nicest guy in the world, told me the story of him and Flex's (wheeler) first visit to the Weider office.....He was scheduled to go right after the north American championships, had no money whatsoever took a one way plane ticket not knowing what to expect, when he got there met with Flex and went in to talk to Weider together....that's when Weider told them that they are working for him and they will each make 100 000 dollars per year for the first 2 years (contract)... they both where like "what" out of shock that they hit the jackpot, then Weider misunderstood them and said..."fine,I will give you guys 120 000..."... when they left they where extremely happy and the next day they both when out and bought 2 brand new corvettes...lol, This is the story directly from Paul himself, don't know for sure if its 100% true or if the figures are exaggerated or what, I certainly believe Paul as we all know Weider was a lot more generous in the 90's.

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #106 on: July 17, 2011, 09:50:40 PM »
only homosexuals care about posing

if you are an intelligent fan of BBing all that matters is who has built the best physique.  I don't even need to see paul pose at all just stand there to realize he has the best physique

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #107 on: July 17, 2011, 10:01:03 PM »
only homosexuals care about posing

if you are an intelligent fan of BBing all that matters is who has built the best physique.  I don't even need to see paul pose at all just stand there to realize he has the best physique
Cool. Homos aside. How about the fact that he's been 'retired' for years now...how does that effect your plan for him to realize the best physique? 

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #108 on: July 17, 2011, 10:57:08 PM »
only homosexuals care about posing

if you are an intelligent fan of BBing all that matters is who has built the best physique.  I don't even need to see paul pose at all just stand there to realize he has the best physique

exactly, posing is gay.

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #109 on: July 17, 2011, 11:11:22 PM »
Big? Yes. But guy was as animated as a zombie = no titles.  ;) 
Paul won a NOC, I think 99 or 2000
Always see Paul, nicest guy in the world, told me the story of him and Flex's (wheeler) first visit to the Weider office.....He was scheduled to go right after the north American championships, had no money whatsoever took a one way plane ticket not knowing what to expect, when he got there met with Flex and went in to talk to Weider together....that's when Weider told them that they are working for him and they will each make 100 000 dollars per year for the first 2 years (contract)... they both where like "what" out of shock that they hit the jackpot, then Weider misunderstood them and said..."fine,I will give you guys 120 000..."... when they left they where extremely happy and the next day they both when out and bought 2 brand new corvettes...lol, This is the story directly from Paul himself, don't know for sure if its 100% true or if the figures are exaggerated or what, I certainly believe Paul as we all know Weider was a lot more generous in the 90's.
There wa Flex Wheeler interview  in MM, he said that after he  broke his neck his contract was cut down to 125k, which was about a 3rd or 4th of what his contract with Weider was---Weider had basically blamed the accident on Flex---kinda like the Jason Williams bike incident

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #110 on: July 18, 2011, 02:23:28 AM »
imo kai at his best could have placed well in the 90s but would not have been a top 3 at the olympia..

for example if he competed at his best at AC 97 he would have come 4th or 3rd maximum!!..


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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #111 on: July 18, 2011, 03:01:43 AM »
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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #112 on: July 18, 2011, 03:23:15 AM »











My apologies. I was referin' to Roland Kickinger ( sp. ? ), not Roland C. Roland C., I like. :)


And this next paragraph is in response to a couple of posters on page 5 :

1 ) Since when did traps REALLY make a difference in bb'ing ? Traps are pretty much likened to calves. They are just small muscle groups that add a little extra to a physique. Sooooo, Kai has small traps ? So fuckin' what ! LOL ! The rest of his bodyparts are SO FREAKY, that no one really gives two shits about the traps. I mean, come on, the guy's won how many shows now ? Do you honestly think the judges care about Kai's traps ? LOL. Get real, man !


2 ) Yes, Kai has a big belly. A LOT of the competitors do. They all, more or less, use the same cocktail.

3 ) Kai's a midget, huh ? I take it you've never seen Kai in person ? Yup, he's shorter than Coleman ( whom he's usually compared to ), no midget. Some of you seems to forget bb'ing is FULL of short people. If you disagree with me, then you plain don't know shit about bb'ing. Fact.


4 ) Posing is gay ? Posing is part of bb'ing. Has been that was since the beginning of time. Get over it. Kai is a GREAT poser. Sure, he's no Ed Corney, but this is 2011. Some things evolve ... for better or for worse. :/


That's it. Too much Kai hate goin' on lately. The guy is probably one of the nicest, most humble people you'll ever meet in your lives. The man is an artist and philosopher all wrapped up in a bb'er shell. Imo, speaks MUCH better than our last two olympians. Jmo, though. 

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #113 on: July 18, 2011, 03:30:00 AM »
One more thing. This goes our to Sherief. STOP with the Nasser BULLSHIT ! Seriously ! You treat the man as if he's a God or somethin'. It's disgustin', really. Nasser was ok. Just " ok ". And please don't talk to me about his high placings ! Lol. He got those because he was the biggest, hardest, and freakiest ... wait for it .............. FROM THE FRONT ! Nasser from the rear made Paul Dillet look like a prime Ronnie Coleman. Just terrible ! So, please, stop with the Nasser bullshit. He's no uncrowned Mr. Olympia. His placings were fair. Perhaps, too fair, at times. :/

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #114 on: July 18, 2011, 03:49:17 AM »
One more thing. This goes our to Sherief. STOP with the Nasser BULLSHIT ! Seriously ! You treat the man as if he's a God or somethin'. It's disgustin', really. Nasser was ok. Just " ok ". And please don't talk to me about his high placings ! Lol. He got those because he was the biggest, hardest, and freakiest ... wait for it .............. FROM THE FRONT ! Nasser from the rear made Paul Dillet look like a prime Ronnie Coleman. Just terrible ! So, please, stop with the Nasser bullshit. He's no uncrowned Mr. Olympia. His placings were fair. Perhaps, too fair, at times. :/

come on i didnt mention nasser,.. i just mentioned AC 97 as an example of 90s bb  :P

but since you are mentioning nasser,.. i agree with you from the front at his best he was better than all the other top pros in his era (and in the next/current era).. and sure his back was his main weak point (condition wise) but i see it a real weak point in the RDB pose only,.. in the RLS pose he it looked ok when being with guys like ray, levrone, and, wheeler.. none of these guys was great in this pose.. and paul's back was worse than nasser's especially in the RLS..

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #115 on: July 18, 2011, 03:57:27 AM »
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Would you really say Kai has a good physique ...
Forget size ?
Does he have a better physique than dillet Nasser Coleman flex shawn marko ray Kevin cormier clairmonte baker Nasser
No way .. He has big legs and a big back
He has zero flow... His arms are big but doesn't flow as his torso is too big zero traps so his neck disappears in the fdb ... Huge legs that don't even match his upper org short short torso
Good for today's bbing scene not for the 90
Even Cormier dissed him (I don't think that was cool) said he looks like a frog
Flex said he looks boxy
...  compare Kai to victor before he tore his quad ??
No because victor has a physique that flows
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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #116 on: July 18, 2011, 04:15:59 AM »
nasser with a good back at +260 pounds ;D

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #117 on: July 18, 2011, 04:34:04 AM »

My apologies. I was referin' to Roland Kickinger ( sp. ? ), not Roland C. Roland C., I like. :)


And this next paragraph is in response to a couple of posters on page 5 :

1 ) Since when did traps REALLY make a difference in bb'ing ? Traps are pretty much likened to calves. They are just small muscle groups that add a little extra to a physique. Sooooo, Kai has small traps ? So fuckin' what ! LOL ! The rest of his bodyparts are SO FREAKY, that no one really gives two shits about the traps. I mean, come on, the guy's won how many shows now ? Do you honestly think the judges care about Kai's traps ? LOL. Get real, man !


2 ) Yes, Kai has a big belly. A LOT of the competitors do. They all, more or less, use the same cocktail.

3 ) Kai's a midget, huh ? I take it you've never seen Kai in person ? Yup, he's shorter than Coleman ( whom he's usually compared to ), no midget. Some of you seems to forget bb'ing is FULL of short people. If you disagree with me, then you plain don't know shit about bb'ing. Fact.


4 ) Posing is gay ? Posing is part of bb'ing. Has been that was since the beginning of time. Get over it. Kai is a GREAT poser. Sure, he's no Ed Corney, but this is 2011. Some things evolve ... for better or for worse. :/


That's it. Too much Kai hate goin' on lately. The guy is probably one of the nicest, most humble people you'll ever meet in your lives. The man is an artist and philosopher all wrapped up in a bb'er shell. Imo, speaks MUCH better than our last two olympians. Jmo, though. 

Big Traps are one of the tell tale signs of a good bodybuilder...they are a glaring weakness

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #118 on: July 18, 2011, 06:41:47 AM »
come on i didnt mention nasser,.. i just mentioned AC 97 as an example of 90s bb  :P

but since you are mentioning nasser,.. i agree with you from the front at his best he was better than all the other top pros in his era (and in the next/current era).. and sure his back was his main weak point (condition wise) but i see it a real weak point in the RDB pose only,.. in the RLS pose he it looked ok when being with guys like ray, levrone, and, wheeler.. none of these guys was great in this pose.. and paul's back was worse than nasser's especially in the RLS..

Uhhh ... you posted a vid of Nasser in your previous reply. How did you miss that ? Perhaps, too much Nasser on the brain ? He's now flooding your sub-conscious ? LOL !


Listen, I've wached MANY " Nasser On The Way ... " vids. His back CLEARLY was a huge weak point. If I were able to ( I'm postin' from my phone ), I'd throw up a couple BDB pics of Dillet that looked pretty damn good and, imo, much better than Nasser's. The only thing I remember when watchin' old Nasser vids is this ... why is his back so flat ?? Where's the thickness ? I don't know how ANYONE could miss this ! Lol. Oh, well. And, NO, NO, NO ! Nasser was not the greatest of his era from the front ! Are you insane ??? His arms aren't nearly as big as they should be for a man of his size. Primarily due to his weak triceps. You need to wake up, dude. Seriously. WAKE UP.

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #119 on: July 18, 2011, 06:52:15 AM »
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Would you really say Kai has a good physique ...
Forget size ?
Does he have a better physique than dillet Nasser Coleman flex shawn marko ray Kevin cormier clairmonte baker Nasser
No way .. He has big legs and a big back
He has zero flow... His arms are big but doesn't flow as his torso is too big zero traps so his neck disappears in the fdb ... Huge legs that don't even match his upper org short short torso
Good for today's bbing scene not for the 90
Even Cormier dissed him (I don't think that was cool) said he looks like a frog
Flex said he looks boxy
...  compare Kai to victor before he tore his quad ??
No because victor has a physique that flows


Yes. Yes, I would. Your too caught up in " flow " and " beauty ". Do you really think bb'ing is about beauty ? LOLOLOL ! Ever heard of the NOC show ? That's where the freaks came out to play. No beautiful physiques there ! Not a lot of flow there ! Why do you think bb'ing has taken a HUGE step back over the years, Meso ??? Because judges and FANS want to see BBBBIIIIIGGGGGGGGG bb'ers. They want to see FFFRREEEAAAKKKKSSS ! Kai brings a freakish physique to the stage with " beautiful " posing. Simple as that. Last I checked, the crowd LOVES him.


Answer me this GetBig ... who do the fans cheer for more :


1 ) Dareem Charles with his classic physique, beautiful lines, flowing muscles, and artistic posing ?

OR

2 ) Markus Ruhl who's just a walking freak of fucking nature ?


There's your answer, Meso. Kai's just not good for the current time period. He's pretty close to perfect.

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #120 on: July 18, 2011, 06:54:52 AM »
Paul won a NOC, I think 99 or 2000There wa Flex Wheeler interview  in MM, he said that after he  broke his neck his contract was cut down to 125k, which was about a 3rd or 4th of what his contract with Weider was---Weider had basically blamed the accident on Flex---kinda like the Jason Williams bike incident
Certainly, however the contract I am speaking of was 2 years only and was givan before his pro debut...the Ironman, which he won beating labrada and then the Arnold's and second at the O... the contract you speak of would have been at the beginning of a second new contract after having dramatic credentials added to his resume if you will...so 300- 400k sounds about right

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #121 on: July 18, 2011, 07:00:11 AM »
Big Traps are one of the tell tale signs of a good bodybuilder...they are a glaring weakness


All right then, Groink. Let's just e-mail and call EVERY single judge that's ever judged Kai's contests. I'm sure we can get them to take back all of Kai's 1rst-place trophies ( which is A LOT ) because his traps are too small.


Hell, guys, if traps mean that much than Johnnie O. Jackson should be Mr. O by now ! This is asinine. Traps complete the physique, however, it SHOULD BE obvious to all of you that it's NOT a necessity. Kai has proved and will prove that even further this fall.

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #122 on: July 18, 2011, 07:11:42 AM »
Big Traps are one of the tell tale signs of a good bodybuilder...they are a glaring weakness

This is too obvious a flaw for a pro at Kai's level. Is it genetics, laziness or injury?

How common is it to tear the trapezuis?

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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #123 on: July 18, 2011, 07:15:28 AM »


I have nothing against freaks my favourite bber and the GREATEST OF ALL TIME ronnie Coleman is a great but he had flow .. His arms matched his body so did his legs and back...
Kai has no flow ...
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Re: This guy was a monster
« Reply #124 on: July 18, 2011, 07:47:01 AM »
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this video of JP fux from AC 96 (his 2nd pro. contest)!!.. it's funny he presented his best shape in his first pro. year then became worse and worse every year!!.. his main weak point was his uncontrollable waist and naturally strange looking abs muscles!!..