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Title: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Tre on July 18, 2011, 06:22:43 PM
...is that they keep giving the world anecdotal evidence like this:

http://www.10news.com/news/28581654/detail.html

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24-Year-Old Stabs Mother And Sister To Death

SAN DIEGO -- A homicide investigation is under way Monday in Rancho Penasquitos, where a mother and daughter were found stabbed to death in a house and the older woman's 24-year-old son was taken into custody.

The homicide in the 9800 block of Paseo Montril was reported at 1:22 a.m., said San Diego police Officer Dino Delimitros.

When San Diego police officers arrived they found a 52-year-old woman and an 18-year-old woman dead with stab wounds. The suspect was found outside the home next to the naked body of his sister, who might have been pushed to the ground from the second floor of the home, police said.

The San Diego Police Department identified the deceased as Donna Williams, 52, a detective with the SDPD, and her daughter Briana "Bree" Williams, 18.

During an early morning media briefing, the SDPD said that the mother and daughter were stabbed to death by the woman’s son. The son, 24-year-old Brian Rockwell Williams, was arrested after surrendering without incident and is currently in custody. Police believe Williams used a kitchen knife in the incident.

"He was very calm when the officers got there, and he followed their commands (and) was arrested without any incident," SDPD Capt. Jim Collins told reporters at a 10:30 a.m. press conference.

The motive for the attack was unclear. Preliminary evidence and interviews "only revealed there was a disturbance between the son, mother and daughter," SDPD homicide Lt. Ernie Herbert said.

Three neighbors called 911 after hearing screams, Collins said.

Collins said that on June 30, police were called to the residence for a disturbance and the incident was resolved without arrest.

Brian Williams was booked in County jail and is expected to be charged with two counts of murder, Collins said.

Briana Williams was a standout softball player who had just graduated from Mt. Carmel High School. She received a scholarship to the Academy of Art University in San Francisco and was to report in the fall. She also played travel softball with the San Diego Renegades.

"I wish it was all a dream and we're going to wake up soon," said Bree's close friend, Nina Villanueva, as she fought back tears.

"She was really outgoing, always happy, always in a good mood [and] made people laugh and smile," said Tiana Castano, who lives next to the Williams family and grew up with Bree.

10News learned Det. Donna Williams is a 31-year veteran of the San Diego Police Department. She spent more than 20 years with the Child Abuse Unit and worked on prestigious cases, such as the kidnapping and murder of Danielle Van Dam in 2002.

The detective -- whose late husband, Howard Williams, also had been a San Diego police officer -- was a "cornerstone" of her division, Collins said.

"We are a family, and a case like this is devastating," he said.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: bradistani on July 18, 2011, 06:33:59 PM
its usually whites that murder their whole family in one go  :D
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: gym**rat on July 18, 2011, 06:38:26 PM
its usually whites that murder their whole family in one go  :D

I cut up my mom, dad, and 2 sisters, kept the pieces in the fridge and when I got caught I barely made the news. WTF???
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: chunkramwell on July 18, 2011, 06:40:35 PM


Ahhh, another bash African Americans thread, how amusing.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: mesmorph78 on July 18, 2011, 06:47:40 PM


Ahhh, another bash African Americans thread, how amusing.
exactly.....

it reeks of insecurity.....
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: tbombz on July 18, 2011, 06:53:45 PM


Ahhh, another bash African Americans thread, how amusing.

ya but tre is black himself
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: mesmorph78 on July 18, 2011, 06:58:18 PM
doesnt matter
 its played out
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Tre on July 18, 2011, 07:04:11 PM
ya but tre is black himself

All I did was do everything right...and then ended up in the adult industry.

But at least I pay taxes.   ;D
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: HTexan on July 18, 2011, 07:45:47 PM
its usually whites that murder their whole family in one go  :D
hahaha
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Lord of the Roidz on July 18, 2011, 08:59:16 PM
All I did was do everything right...and then ended up in the adult industry.

But at least I pay taxes.   ;D
I feel you.. If I was an intelligent black guy like yourself, I would hate to be stereotyped in with the vast criminal thug element that exists in your culture. I always try to treat everyone as an individual and judge them on their own merit. But honestly, if I were black, I would hate to have people automatically lump me in with the ignorant jackasses out there causing all the mayhem.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Matt C on July 18, 2011, 10:15:37 PM
Whites practicing slavery was anecdotal in the same respect as under 5% of White people ever practiced it, but that doesn't stop people from blaming the entire White race for the actions of a few.  I just find it shocking that double standards such as those can exist and some people can be oblivious to them.  Either hold entire groups accountable for the actions of other members of their group or don't do that at all.  Doing it halfway is what I find annoying.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: HTexan on July 18, 2011, 10:56:02 PM
Whites practicing slavery was anecdotal in the same respect as under 5% of White people ever practiced it, but that doesn't stop people from blaming the entire White race for the actions of a few.  I just find it shocking that double standards such as those can exist and some people can be oblivious to them.  Either hold entire groups accountable for the actions of other members of their group or don't do that at all.  Doing it halfway is what I find annoying.
racism when beyond slavery.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Matt C on July 18, 2011, 11:03:39 PM
racism when beyond slavery.

Yes it did but nobody talks about the fact that Arabs took more African slaves than did Europeans and treated them with far greater brutality.  Africans sold themselves into slavery as well.  As for other crimes that the White race committed against Africans, it wasn't a crime of every individual White person.  I don't want to hear about enslaving Africans or mistreating Indians because nobody in my family tracing back as far as I looked had anything to do with that.

So as long as the racist anti-White media wants to bash individual White people for things they had nothing to do with, members of other races shouldn't complain when the same happens to them.  The mainstream media wants it to be a "Hate Whitey" parade while telling us that we should treat all people as individuals.  ::)  The double standards are galling.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Parker on July 18, 2011, 11:09:50 PM
I wonder how long her husband was dead, and did that son need a strong male hand to put him in line---also, kids of cops are notoriously BAD.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Tre on July 18, 2011, 11:20:01 PM
I wonder how long her husband was dead, and did that son need a strong male hand to put him in line---also, kids of cops are notoriously BAD.

According to the North County Times, the father was a 35-year veteran of the SDPD who died in 2007 of natural causes, while still on the job.

At that point, the boy would've been 20 years old.  I was still a bit of a hellion and needed fathering at that age, so if the boy was already bad to begin with, it's easy to see how things could've gotten so much worse with Dad gone.

I didn't know the daughter, but some associates of mine did and they all had nothing but wonderful things to say about her as a person and as a softball player.  She was the golden child in that family and I can't help but suspect there was a bit of jealousy which fueled the rage that resulted in her and her mother's deaths.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Doug_Steele on July 18, 2011, 11:20:54 PM
Is Tre white?  ??? ???
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Parker on July 18, 2011, 11:27:53 PM
According to the North County Times, the father was a 35-year veteran of the SDPD who died in 2007 of natural causes, while still on the job.

At that point, the boy would've been 20 years old.  I was still a bit of a hellion and needed fathering at that age, so if the boy was already bad to begin with, it's easy to see how things could've gotten so much worse with Dad gone.

I didn't know the daughter, but some associates of mine did and they all had nothing but wonderful things to say about her as a person and as a softball player.  She was the golden child in that family and I can't help but suspect there was a bit of jealousy which fueled the rage that resulted in her and her mother's deaths.
Not to be disrespectful to the girl---but at first I thought was a tranny pic, as she has too much makeup on....I thought the son killed his mom and he was dressing up as girl....

I agree---it seems like the son was "still in the oven" so to speak and need a very, very strong hand....plus black moms are notorious for being soft on their sons---as he is now the "man of the house", in a way.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Cashfan on July 18, 2011, 11:39:21 PM
Post the autopsy shots.  Stab wounds=back up vaginas in my book.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Kulutues on July 19, 2011, 12:08:38 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/police-fla-teen-killed-parents-then-had-party-212714985.html

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Police: Fla. teen killed parents, then had a party

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — A 17-year-old boy is accused of bludgeoning his parents with a hammer, then hosting dozens of friends for a party while their bodies lay in the bedroom, police said Monday.

Tyler Hadley of Port St. Lucie is charged with twin counts of first-degree murder in the deaths, which authorities say happened Saturday. He is being held without bond at a juvenile detention center in Fort Pierce and it's not immediately known whether he has an attorney.

The parents — Blake and Mary-Jo Hadley — were believed to have been struck with the hammer in their heads and torsos sometime after their son posted on Facebook around 1:15 p.m. Saturday alerting friends to an evening party at his house, about 50 miles north of West Palm Beach.

Investigators believe the parents were attacked outside their master bedroom and the bodies were moved into the bedroom and the door locked.

As many as 60 people attended the party that night, according to Port St. Lucie Police spokesman Tom Nichols. They were loud enough to prompt a noise complaint and a visit by police officers. When they arrived at 1:30 a.m. Sunday to warn about the noise, the party was already breaking up, Nichols said.

Then, police said, they received a tip that murder may have taken place. They returned to the home at 4:20 a.m., finding the bodies covered with towels, files, books and other household items, and the hammer between them.

The mother, 47, was an elementary school teacher. The father, 54, worked for Florida Power and Light.

Autopsies were underway, but police said they believed they died of blunt-force trauma.

Hadley had attended St. Lucie West Centennial High School, according to police, but had not graduated. They said they did not know what the motive was.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Tre on July 19, 2011, 12:11:37 AM
Is Tre white?  ??? ???

Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on July 19, 2011, 12:13:13 AM
The only blacks we have here in Ireland are Nigerian immigrants
Hence we hate 'blacks'
Nigerians are Africa's rumanians
No good lazy ignorant social welfare spongers
It would be good if some American blacks were here to redress the balance
Show ppl that not all blacks are like nigerians
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: HTexan on July 19, 2011, 12:14:32 AM
Yes it did but nobody talks about the fact that Arabs took more African slaves than did Europeans and treated them with far greater brutality.  Africans sold themselves into slavery as well.  As for other crimes that the White race committed against Africans, it wasn't a crime of every individual White person.  I don't want to hear about enslaving Africans or mistreating Indians because nobody in my family tracing back as far as I looked had anything to do with that.

So as long as the racist anti-White media wants to bash individual White people for things they had nothing to do with, members of other races shouldn't complain when the same happens to them.  The mainstream media wants it to be a "Hate Whitey" parade while telling us that we should treat all people as individuals.  ::)  The double standards are galling.
1.) my point still stands.
2.) You have used racial slurs on here before.
3.) STFU, or kill yourself,  cus youre making us look bad.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Tre on July 19, 2011, 12:15:26 AM
Not to be disrespectful to the girl---but at first I thought was a tranny pic, as she has too much makeup on....I thought the son killed his mom and he was dressing up as girl....

I agree---it seems like the son was "still in the oven" so to speak and need a very, very strong hand....plus black moms are notorious for being soft on their sons---as he is now the "man of the house", in a way.

Joining you there with no disrespect intended, but just based on the one pic, she could've passed for a tranny.

It sucks not to be able to grow into manhood with a strong father there to help guide you as needed, but whenever a kid suffers a tragic loss or has some sort of inherent deficiency, there's no shortage of people who'll excuse and rationalize everything they do from that point forward.  At 24, he's part of these generations of black boys (it started with guys about my age) who've never been made to earn anything or been held accountable for anything.

We're going to die out at this rate.  
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Parker on July 19, 2011, 12:20:36 AM
The only blacks we have here in Ireland are Nigerian immigrants
Hence we hate 'blacks'
Nigerians are Africa's rumanians
No good lazy ignorant social welfare spongers
It would be good if some American blacks were here to redress the balance
Show ppl that not all blacks are like nigerians
Odd, when many Nigerians come here, they think that they are better than American blacks, as they "pure"---much like many Euros think that they are culturally better than their American counterparts, yet the Nigerians that come here are still known for scamming people. For instance, many will have "used" car lots with cars that don't really run or pass emissions or safety standards, due to being in the shop or in a crash. They will ship them over to Nigerian.
Joining you there with no disrespect intended, but just based on the one pic, she could've passed for a tranny.

It sucks not to be able to grow into manhood with a strong father there to help guide you as needed, but whenever a kid suffers a tragic loss or has some sort of inherent deficiency, there's no shortage of people who'll excuse and rationalize everything they do from that point forward.  At 24, he's part of these generations of black boys (it started with guys about my age) who've never been made to earn anything or been held accountable for anything.

We're going to die out at this rate

It takes a concerted effort, from the media, music industry-entertainment....and especially women to realize, that they must require black men to be men---that means women must do their jobs. None of this accepting excuses---and excepting the behavior of always tryingt be slick or beating the system---because it never works....
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Matt C on July 19, 2011, 12:25:49 AM
1.) my point still stands.
2.) You have used racial slurs on here before.
3.) STFU, or kill yourself,  cus youre making us look bad.

I did use racial slurs which I stole from Johnny Falcon and some others: "Knee-Grow" for example.

 ;D  ;D  ;D

The problem with my posts before was that the timing was horrible.  The time and the place to discuss racial matters would be a thread such as this one.  I would bring it up randomly and derail threads.  Not cool.  I talked to Ron and he recommended that I be cool and more.  Ron's a cool guy.

From now on I won't even THINK about bringing it up randomly.  Threads like this are ok though.  But racial slurs are not cool.  There is a mature way to talk about controversial issues I think where you can still get your point across while not being rude.  That's my goal.  No need to be mean to people.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Tito24 on July 19, 2011, 12:32:51 AM
yes the scamming in nigeria is almost be seen as a national sport there. stealing from white people is ok they are rich ::)
really shit people.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 19, 2011, 12:43:40 AM
I think there's Honey Badgers in Nigeria too. Which side will they be on?  ???  ???  ???  ???  ???
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Parker on July 19, 2011, 12:44:39 AM

Dad.....Dad?
yes the scamming in nigeria is almost be seen as a national sport there. stealing from white people is ok they are rich ::)
really shit people.
Certain ethnic groups tend to do that...and they scam other black folks as well, particular African Americans...there is a saying in West Africa, never trust a Nigerian.
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 19, 2011, 12:52:41 AM


Great arms on your companion Dr Tre!
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Tre on July 19, 2011, 06:05:38 AM
It takes a concerted effort, from the media, music industry-entertainment....and especially women to realize, that they must require black men to be men---that means women must do their jobs. None of this accepting excuses---and excepting the behavior of always trying to be slick or beating the system---because it never works....

This is something that we've lost and I own my role in this as well.  I'm not looking for any awards, but even though the marriage was not allowed to work by either side, I didn't jet.  My kid cannot walk to my house, but I live only 5 minutes away and she can see me or come over whenever she wants.  Because she's a ball player and I'm her coach, and because I work my own hours, we get to spend a lot more time together than most dads and their daughters.  I even go to church with her sometimes.  We don't do enough meals together as a family, but aside from that, I'm a very visible and active presence in her life in addition to providing for her (and her mom) and my hope is that she'll hold any future partner to that same standard.

She knows that we're black, but doesn't know much about the Black experience in America.  She's only received a token introduction and just a small spattering here-and-there, so because I haven't tried to compete with the Mormon indoctrination she's undergone since birth, I have to hope that enough seeds have been planted to someday cultivate her own interest in helping to raise smarter, more productive black citizens. 
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Benny B on July 19, 2011, 06:27:52 AM
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Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 19, 2011, 07:10:01 AM
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He's becoming a daddy, how nice..
Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Tito24 on July 19, 2011, 08:10:55 AM
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Title: Re: The problem with young, black males...
Post by: Option D on July 20, 2011, 02:26:27 PM
The only blacks we have here in Ireland are Nigerian immigrants
Hence we hate 'blacks'
Nigerians are Africa's rumanians
No good lazy ignorant social welfare spongers
It would be good if some American blacks were here to redress the balance
Show ppl that not all blacks are like nigerians
Here they (not all, but a lot) are scammers and get rich quickers....who get into real estate and shit like that. I have a couple of friends that are hard workers, but i know a few that scam as well. My mother dosent really like doing business with them.