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I think being bullied, and bullying is an essential part of growing up and developing into a normal healthy adult.
This anti bullying shit is getting crazy. I see more of this shit on the news every night.
WTF
I thought the dodge ball ban was bad, but they're getting even crazier than that!
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Kids today's are being taught to be wimps and pussies. If a kid is getting bullied, there are plenty of ways to deal w it outside of therapy and anti depressants.
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Kids today's are being taught to be wimps and pussies. If a kid is getting bullied, there are plenty of ways to deal w it outside of therapy and anti depressants.
Yes, makes me fucking sick...
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Come on guys...everybody gets a trophy.
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Come on guys...everybody gets a trophy.
Everybody needs a boot in the ass.
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I am very much against this everyone gets a trophy and the scoreless soccer game bullshit.
However, steps that discourage or prevent bullying is a good thing IMO.
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Everybody needs a boot in the ass.
And that's a ok in the military now.
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I think being bullied is different than we grew up. We dealt with it face to face. Kids now, their is cell phones, facebook, etc...
I think getting picked on, is part of growing pains but again it's different now
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I think being bullied is different than we grew up. We dealt with it face to face. Kids now, their is cell phones, facebook, etc...
I think getting picked on, is part of growing pains but again it's different now
Lookin good in that pic.
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I think being bullied is different than we grew up. We dealt with it face to face. Kids now, their is cell phones, facebook, etc...
I think getting picked on, is part of growing pains but again it's different now
I don't know, kids still get bullied at school the old fashion way. There other ways to build character in children.
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Chop to the throat puts anyone down.
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I don't know, kids still get bullied at school the old fashion way. There other ways to build character in children.
give me an example OzmO...(besides parents)We didn't have what kids have now. I'm not saying being bullied is right
Lookin good in that pic.
Thank you
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give me an example OzmO...(besides parents)We didn't have what kids have now. I'm not saying being bullied is right
Thank you
Examples of building character?
Sports, goals, hard work, discipline, martial arts, boxing, etc. And I know it's an old worn out issue, but our school system is over managed, over funded for amistration, and the teaching methods are whacked.
I agree we don't have the same kids now.
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Too many pansies.
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Too many pansies.
No, too many products of electronic baby sitting.
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No, too many products of electronic baby sitting.
That's part of it. We are too soft all around. I argue w this w my gf all the time. Too many soft pofs fat assholes w no heart, no drive, no guts, etc.
All levels.
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I think being bullied, and bullying is an essential part of growing up and developing into a normal healthy adult.
We are turning into a nation of sissies, but to say bullying is essential is ridiculous. It's not "normal" behavior for one kid to beat another smaller kid up, or harass a kid, etc.
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We are turning into a nation of sissies, but to say bullying is essential is ridiculous. It's not "normal" behavior for one kid to beat another smaller kid up, or harass a kid, etc.
You obviously didnt go to my school :)
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I am very much against this everyone gets a trophy and the scoreless soccer game bullshit.
However, steps that discourage or prevent bullying is a good thing IMO.
I agree with this
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You obviously didnt go to my school :)
No, I didn't. And it wouldn't have mattered. A bigger, stronger kid beating up a smaller, weaker kid isn't normal.
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I don't remember a time when the bigger stronger kid wasn't the bully.
It's pretty rare that the little kid is the one doing the bullying. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's not the norm.
So if it's not "normal", who is doing all the bullying in the world? The little guy???
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I don't remember a time when the bigger stronger kid wasn't the bully.
It's pretty rare that the little kid is the one doing the bullying. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's not the norm.
So if it's not "normal", who is doing all the bullying in the world? The little guy???
this
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I don't remember a time when the bigger stronger kid wasn't the bully.
It's pretty rare that the little kid is the one doing the bullying. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's not the norm.
So if it's not "normal", who is doing all the bullying in the world? The little guy???
Something that his commonplace isn't necessarily normal. Crime happens all the time. Doesn't make it "normal." The whole premise of this thread is absurd: that bullying is "normal" and a "necessary" part of growing up. No kid should have to deal with that kind of crap.
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Something that his commonplace isn't necessarily normal. Crime happens all the time. Doesn't make it "normal." The whole premise of this thread is absurd: that bullying is "normal" and a "necessary" part of growing up. No kid should have to deal with that kind of crap.
I didn't say bullying is "normal".
I said that most bullying is done by bigger larger kids... That seems pretty normal to me.
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I didn't say bullying is "normal".
I said that most bullying is done by bigger larger kids... That seems pretty normal to me.
Yes, most bullying is done by bigger, stronger kids, or a group of kids. That part is "normal." Bullying itself is neither normal nor necessary.
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There's a difference between what does happen and what should happen
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It builds character, man up... ::)
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There's a difference between what does happen and what should happen
Exactly.
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I do think it's some bullshit too... I mean, kids have been getting bullied for centuries and they end up being the ones who harden the fuck up and make shit happen later in life.
So this entire idea of "bullying" being some new and horrific thing is bullshit.
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It builds character, man up... ::)
it might build character for you, but I'm going to guess you've never dealt with a 7 year old who slit her wrists because the skinny girls at school made fun of her looks.
Just because something might have worked for you personally doesn't mean it works the same for everybody.
Bullying has been around forever, but nobody should face it. Kinda like rape.
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Yeah, its nothing new. I bet there was actually more bullying in our parents' generation.
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it might build character for you, but I'm going to guess you've never dealt with a 7 year old who slit her wrists because the skinny girls at school made fun of her looks.
Just because something might have worked for you personally doesn't mean it works the same for everybody.
Bullying has been around forever, but nobody should face it. Kinda like rape.
I think there's a gigantic difference in someone sexually assaulting you against your will, and someone calling you fat. ::)
If kids can't deal with being picked on a little bit in school, how are they ever going to face the ass holes they'll encounter on a daily basis as adults?
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I don't think we are talking about just name calling here. That wouldn't be as big a deal, but physical harassment is what I am talking about and that needs to be strongly discouraged.
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I don't know, kids still get bullied at school the old fashion way. There other ways to build character in children.
how do you survive on this board? LMAO.. bullying is a good thing? they are kids meatbags, nobody likes a bully, i see a thread full of bullied pussies who act as if they loved it and were saving the neighborhood. Bullies are usual insecure pussies who pick on those that are smaller, ya great people to learn and garner character from.
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I think there's a gigantic difference in someone sexually assaulting you against your will, and someone calling you fat. ::)
If kids can't deal with being picked on a little bit in school, how are they ever going to face the ass holes they'll encounter on a daily basis as adults?
I'm sorry but I don't see how a normal moral person can tell a 7 year old girl who slits her wrists because of societal pressure regarding physical attractiveness to "man up". I find that advice horrible, and I hope Tony as a psychology grad student will give us his take regarding whether children should be bullied.
You as a __ year old male have no idea what it feels like to be in a child's shoes and being bullied, so I don't think you can say for certain that "take it like a man" is the best advice in all cases. I'm sure you right now in your life recognize how lame bullying is and can get over it and pass it off as nothing, but you cannot dictate what action should be taken when the child becomes suicidal because of the bullying. Just like the issue with being a child and being bullied because other children think that child is gay. It's a tough place to be in, and I am in no way going to tell that child to "suck it up" or "get over it". I think its much more complicated than that.
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how do you survive on this board? LMAO.. bullying is a good thing? they are kids meatbags, nobody likes a bully, i see a thread full of bullied pussies who act as if they loved it and were saving the neighborhood. Bullies are usual insecure pussies who pick on those that are smaller, ya great people to learn and garner character from.
Agree.
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I'm sorry but I don't see how a normal moral person can tell a 7 year old girl who slits her wrists because of societal pressure regarding physical attractiveness to "man up". I find that advice horrible, and I hope Tony as a psychology grad student will give us his take regarding whether children should be bullied.
You as a __ year old male have no idea what it feels like to be in a child's shoes and being bullied, so I don't think you can say for certain that "take it like a man" is the best advice in all cases. I'm sure you right now in your life recognize how lame bullying is and can get over it and pass it off as nothing, but you cannot dictate what action should be taken when the child becomes suicidal because of the bullying. Just like the issue with being a child and being bullied because other children think that child is gay. It's a tough place to be in, and I am in no way going to tell that child to "suck it up" or "get over it". I think its much more complicated than that.
no man up bro, it doesn;t have any affect on self-esteem and integrity.
Being bullied is how all the best people were created, look at the blacks, being called blacks and animals finally made them man up and ask for equality.
if you think its wrong to go tell a stranger as an adult that they are ugly and fat or should kill themselves now, why should it change as a kid, do these morals shift with age?
I was being sarcastic above.
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Love that story. I wonder if that little punk is still limping. :)
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In high school I had the size not to have to worry about it, though I did keep a lot of smaller guys from getting beat up.
But now, as a parent, if anybody bullies my kid, I'll be the first person that's in the face of the bullies parent. Maybe I'm too overprotective, not sure, but I don't ever want kids getting pushed around. Fuck that, they've got plenty of character.
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I think being bullied, and bullying is an essential part of growing up and developing into a normal healthy adult.
This anti bullying shit is getting crazy. I see more of this shit on the news every night.
WTF
I thought the dodge ball ban was bad, but they're getting even crazier than that!
Bullying isn't the same as it used to be especially with cyberbullying, it takes the shit to a whole new level. A kid can no longer just leave the bullying at school. Its now a 24 hour a day 7 days a week deal. Not only that, kids are now packing guns and all sorts of crazy shit.
Take fighting for example. I fought with my buddy Terrence back in the day and afterwards that shit was settled. But now, people go and video that shit with the phones and show it to everyone, post it on Youtube and Facebook and as a result, it preserves it in history. How can you squash beef if it keeps getting replayed over and over again???
Its not the same as it used to be back in the day.
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That nutbag in Norway killed all those people with a pistol. I mention this because he had to reload multiple times....in a society that was full of sheepdogs instead of sheep..he might have been overpowered.
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That nutbag in Norway killed all those people with a pistol. I mention this because he had to reload multiple times....in a society that was full of sheepdogs instead of sheep..he might have been overpowered.
is this a serious argument? You're suggesting that we give children (or teenagers if you prefer that term) who have an underdeveloped cerebral cortex meaning they are incapable of fully calculating consequences (as shown by many many studies) guns to use at their discretion in case they feel a "sheepdog" is a threat?
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That nutbag in Norway killed all those people with a pistol. I mention this because he had to reload multiple times....in a society that was full of sheepdogs instead of sheep..he might have been overpowered.
Hmmm, so says the trained soldier who wasn't there. Com on man.
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how do you survive on this board? LMAO.. bullying is a good thing? they are kids meatbags, nobody likes a bully, i see a thread full of bullied pussies who act as if they loved it and were saving the neighborhood. Bullies are usual insecure pussies who pick on those that are smaller, ya great people to learn and garner character from.
I'm not sure what you mean. Are you asking how "I" survive with all the bullying on the board?
People can learn character other ways. No child needs to go to school and fear physical harm from other students.
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I'm kinda shocked that nobody has seen the difference between the normal kind of bullying that happens verses the kind of bullying where many gang up on one and even carry that online to the point where some poor girl or boy kills themselves over it.
No, we didn't grow up with the possibility of being humiluated in from of millions, all we had to deal with was a couple jackasses back in the day.
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I'm kinda shocked that nobody has seen the difference between the normal kind of bullying that happens verses the kind of bullying where many gang up on one and even carry that online to the point where some poor girl or boy kills themselves over it.
No, we didn't grow up with the possibility of being humiluated in from of millions, all we had to deal with was a couple jackasses back in the day.
I see a difference, I do, but really, doesn't it say something about the support system of this child in question?
Where are the parents? Why does the child feel like no one notices? I talk to my kids... That support system is what it's there for.
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Hmmm, so says the trained soldier who wasn't there. Com on man.
Societies where the kids are'nt cuddled wussies wouldn't allow this. Where the hell where the adults.....the guy had a crowd around him when he started firing, everybody ran. In Arizona the guy got tackled.
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Societies where the kids are'nt cuddled wussies wouldn't allow this. Where the hell where the adults.....the guy had a crowd around him when he started firing, everybody ran. In Arizona the guy got tackled.
I would presume it would easy to see it that way from your point of view considering what you do, however, they were both very different situations just as others are.
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I worry for a society that rolls over and takes it. I've trained with the Norwegians...good troops but we called em hippies on ski's.
We don't need to run around like spartans but come on.....kids are growing up soft, and we're becoming softer as a society. This softness does things like prolong economic down-turns...everything builds on everything else.
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I see a difference, I do, but really, doesn't it say something about the support system of this child in question?
Where are the parents? Why does the child feel like no one notices? I talk to my kids... That support system is what it's there for.
what the hell are you talking about? What if it's just some kid with a disability that everyone is ganging up on? You're going to lecture his parents for not being there when others are ganging up on him or her? Really?
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what the hell are you talking about? What if it's just some kid with a disability that everyone is ganging up on? You're going to lecture his parents for not being there when others are ganging up on him or her? Really?
Sometimes, definitely. You're taking bullying at the extreme now.
Bullying of mentally disabled kids is even LESS the norm... Everyone is taught at young ages to protect and not pick on those with mental disabilities or other forms of disabilities including physical ones.
I'm not saying bullying is "right", so don't twist what I'm saying. I'm SAYING where was the support system at the time this shit went down.
You seem to want to point the finger at the bully, and they obviously should take the majority of the blame, but where is the support system helping the child to understand that the bully is the one who needs help and is most likely deficient in some other facet of life.
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Sometimes, definitely. You're taking bullying at the extreme now.
Bullying of mentally disabled kids is even LESS the norm... Everyone is taught at young ages to protect and not pick on those with mental disabilities or other forms of disabilities including physical ones.I'm not saying bullying is "right", so don't twist what I'm saying. I'm SAYING where was the support system at the time this shit went down.You seem to want to point the finger at the bully, and they obviously should take the majority of the blame, but where is the support system helping the child to understand that the bully is the one who needs help and is most likely deficient in some other facet of life.
No, I'm not just talking about only bullying of the "extreme low" whatever the fuck that means. But it doesn't sound very cool ::)...
maybe it's just some extremely overweight kid or some kid who is ugly as hell to the rest. That's the fucking difference. If you went to school, you know other kids ganged up on those kids. Now it's even worse, they'll take it online until those kids kills themselves.
The kind of bullying we're talking about as normal is the kind of shit we learn to give eachother growing up. That's totally different than when a group gangs up on who they see as the low because of the way they look or act.
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No, I'm not just talking about only bullying of the "extreme low" whatever the fuck that means. But it doesn't sound very cool ::)...
maybe it's just some extremely overweight kid or some kid who is ugly as hell to the rest. That's the fucking difference. If you went to school, you know other kids ganged up on those kids. Now it's even worse, they'll take it online until those kids kills themselves.
The kind of bullying we're talking about as normal is the kid of shit we learn to give eachother. That's totally different than when a group gangs up on who they see as the low because of the way they look or act.
Again, I'm not saying it's right... I'm simply ASKING where is the support from the parents and families? What do you think the percentage of bullying of kids who are orphans and have no family is high or something?
Why are you so angry about a simple discussion point.
You're seeming extremely angry about me asking a few simple questions.
I am there for my kids... my kid came home one day and told me a bully was messing with him, so I told him to stomp him... he did, it was over.
My son was afraid I'd be mad at him for stomping some jackass kid at his school... he just needed my support on the matter to understand that I would not be upset. I simply told him that if the kid is just running his mouth, who cares, he's probably a getbig member and has no life. ;)
I also said that if he actually puts his hands on him, to stomp him. The kid touched him, and got stomped. Pretty simple.
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I think its much more complicated than that.
I think you're right, I guess I'm just over generalizing. I have a tendency to do that....
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That nutbag in Norway killed all those people with a pistol. I mention this because he had to reload multiple times....in a society that was full of sheepdogs instead of sheep..he might have been overpowered.
EXCELLENT POST!!
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Again, I'm not saying it's right... I'm simply ASKING where is the support from the parents and families? What do you think the percentage of bullying of kids who are orphans and have no family is high or something?
Why are you so angry about a simple discussion point
You're seeming extremely angry about me asking a few simple questions.
I am there for my kids... my kid came home one day and told me a bully was messing with him, so I told him to stomp him... he did, it was over.
My son was afraid I'd be mad at him for stomping some jackass kid at his school... he just needed my support on the matter to understand that I would not be upset. I simply told him that if the kid is just running his mouth, who cares, he's probably a getbig member and has no life. ;)
I also said that if he actually puts his hands on him, to stomp him. The kid touched him, and got stomped. Pretty simple.
What the fuck are you babbling about?... Just fucking answer my points instead of dancing around them like you clearly are. I made clear points, you don't need to jibby yappy over it, just come right out and fucking say it man.
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What the fuck are you babbling about?... Just fucking answer my points instead of dancing around them like you clearly are. I made clear points, you don't need to jibby yappy over it, just come right out and fucking say it man.
What points are you asking about?
Did you ask a question or questions? If so, then I surely didn't see any in your response.
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What points are you asking about?
Did you ask a question or questions? If so, then I surely didn't see any in your response.
If there were no points in my reply, why did you reply to it lol.............
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If there was no points in my reply, why did you reply to it lol.............
I was simply stating my opinion. I didn't know you asked any specific questions there.
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I was simply stating my opinion. I didn't know you asked any specific questions there.
WTF? You addressed my post asswipe. Why did you address it if it didn't raise any issues to respond to? Clearly it does and you're trying to worm out of it. Don't worry, I'm use to BB doing the same.
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I don't pay too much attention, but Tu_Holmes must have a different POV cause he's attacked by both Mr. Chavez and the Bum.... lol ;D
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WTF? You addressed my post asswipe. Why did you address it if it didn't raise any issues to respond to? Clearly it does and you're trying to worm out of it. Don't worry, I'm use to BB doing the same.
What am I worming out of?
I've posted my opinion, that's it... If you have some specific question you are asking, then ask the specific question and I will respond to the specific question.
I seriously don't understand why you are so upset when I'm seriously asking you to "ask the question" and I will respond to it.
I don't pay too much attention, but Tu_Holmes must have a different POV cause he's attacked by both Mr. Chavez and the Bum.... lol ;D
This is what happens when you think for yourself and don't let anyone tell you what to do or how to do it.
In reality, I'm the guy who is really down the middle on most things and doesn't see why one side gets so happy, or one side so mad.
Therefore, I get it from both sides.
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I don't pay too much attention, but Tu_Holmes must have a different POV cause he's attacked by both Mr. Chavez and the Bum.... lol ;D
;D LOL...
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What am I worming out of?
good question, not hard to answer, just look above at my post you wormed out of and actually address the issues raised.
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good question, not hard to answer, just look above at my post you wormed out of and actually address the issues raised.
I seriously don't see it then... because my response was "It isn't right"... as in "Bullying isn't right", so I agree with you on that point and raised a point about where the support system of the children is as well.
To which you did not answer MY question.
So how did I "worm out" of anything again?
Is that response "worming out"?!
If that's the case than any answer to you that you don't agree with must be "worming out".
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I seriously don't see it then... because my response was "It isn't right"... as in "Bullying isn't right", so I agree with you on that point and raised a point about where the support system of the children is as well.To which you did not answer MY question.
So how did I "worm out" of anything again?Is that response "worming out"?!If that's the case than any answer to you that you don't agree with must be "worming out".
Ok, look deep into my eyes and count slowly from 10 to 1.....
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Ok, look deep into my eyes and count slowly from 10 to 1.....
So first I don't respond, then when I show you where I did respond, now I'm a baby for doing so. Right. I see how that works now.
You haven't yet answered my question, but we'll just go ahead and let that slide I guess.
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So first I don't respond, then when I show you where I did respond, now I'm a baby for doing so. Right. I see how that works now.
You haven't yet answered my question, but we'll just go ahead and let that slide I guess.
actually it's you who didn't respond, and as for the vid, come on, that's some funny shit ;D Oh you poor poor baby, did I upset you :D
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actually it's you who didn't respond, and as for the vid, come on, that's some funny shit ;D Oh you poor poor baby, did I upset you :D
Not a bit... I find it childish on a politics board, but 'eh, whatever.
I did respond... I said it wasn't right. What more of an answer do you require Hugo?
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ooook, that's a lot of blood, I gotta go...
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I see a difference, I do, but really, doesn't it say something about the support system of this child in question?
Where are the parents? Why does the child feel like no one notices? I talk to my kids... That support system is what it's there for.
Societies where the kids are'nt cuddled wussies wouldn't allow this. Where the hell where the adults.....the guy had a crowd around him when he started firing, everybody ran. In Arizona the guy got tackled.
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Are bullies more extreme these days?
I don't recall anyone slitting their wrists due to being bullied "back in the day".
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I do think it's some bullshit too... I mean, kids have been getting bullied for centuries and they end up being the ones who harden the fuck up and make shit happen later in life.
So this entire idea of "bullying" being some new and horrific thing is bullshit.
It's not a new phenomenon---it's more of parents not preparing kids to cope with it...meaning, you rise up...I mean there were tons of movies from the 80s that had this as a plot---Revenge of The Nerds, anyone?
But it's the cyber bullying that is the ish now...kids can't cope with another kid saying stuff and then they burst out in tears..due to the "lives being ruined" ::)
Instead of saying stuff back...they sit there like deer in headlights, and start to cry...And what do the parents do? Instead of saying, "say something back", they enable the kids by cuddling them...
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Chop to the throat puts anyone down.
What if he dies?...what if it escalates to firearms?...or other deadly force?...I have witnessed situations that in order for the victim to stop the bullying long term,...he would have to kill someone...Either the bully or himself.