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They just want to serve honorably..they just want serve their country like everybody else..what a crock of liberal bullshit.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/28/group-wants-military-recruiters-to-target-gays-aft/
An underground military gay group wants military recruiters to reach out to the homosexual community in the same way they target blacks, Latinos and women.
The Pentagon’s ban on open gays is due to be lifted Sept. 20, meaning avowed gay people can sign up, those in the ranks can come out of the closet and the military will no longer discharge personnel because of sexual preference.
What is unclear is the number of post-ban policies that might be adopted to meet the demands of gays and ease sexual integration of homosexuals and heterosexuals.
The group OutServe, which claims more than 4,000 gay and lesbian military members worldwide, plans a coming out party, of sorts, in Las Vegas in October.
The group has invited Defense Department officials to attend the “OutServe Armed Forces Leadership Conference” and expects hundreds military personnel to attend.
J.D. Smith, an active-duty Air Force officer who founded OutServe, said the military should think of gays when recruiting. “J.D. Smith” is an alias he uses because the ban is still in effect.
“Absolutely we endorse the DoD advertising recruiting for the gay community, just as they would any other community,” Mr. Smith said in an email exchange with The Washington Times. “The DoD regularly attends public events to recruit and we believe they should be at Pride events next year around the country to let the gay community know the opportunities to serve their nation.
“The DoD doesn’t need to do a campaign to let the public know they accept gays, they should do it so gays know of the opportunity now open to them.”
Robert Knight, a conservative columnist, said he expects a list of gay-oriented demands for the Pentagon.
“No one should be surprised at what will be an increasingly shrill set of demands to use the military as an endorsing agency for homosexual activism,” said Mr. Knight, who helped draft the federal 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as a union between one man and one woman.
“The idea that they would be satisfied with a military that is merely indifferent to sexual preference ignores what they’ve done in other institutions such as corporations, schools, and even some church denominations.”
Pentagon spokeswoman Eileen Lainez said no decision has been made about whether the department will officially attend the OutServe conference.
As to specifically recruiting in the gay community, she said: “The services are always looking for smart, talented young men and women who want to serve, and they determine which recruiting/marketing venues best meet their needs.”
What the gay community would like to gain from the Pentagon may materialize at the four-day Las Vegas conference. The agenda calls for several workshops, dinners, board meetings, group break-outs and an open microphone session.
OutServe is urging attendance from cadets and midshipmen, active-duty personnel, veterans and federal employees. Conference sponsors include the CIA and Amazon.com.
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is that what you gathered from this article?
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Looking to collapse the military from within.
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Dumbass......what the hell does it look like to u. We have to actively go out and recruit fags now....um why. Because u want to suck cock, I have to want you in the service. I love how this douche thinks he's so superior to us. Go stick your supposed med degree up ur ass.
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Maybe they can form their own unit.
"The Panzie Brigade"
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The group OutServe, which claims more than 4,000 gay and lesbian military members worldwide, plans a coming out party, of sorts, in Las Vegas in October.
I don't think it's anywhere close to that amount. Even if that 4,000 number is correct, there are 2.2 million serving. Pretty small percentage of the population.
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Yeah..and we don't need to waste money targeting fags...if the guy speaks arabic, we recruiting him to speak arabic..not because he also sucks cock.
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Why this Marine is getting out of the military
AIPNews.com ^ | July 28, 2011 | Gunnery Sgt Harry Berres, USMC
"When I joined the military it was illegal to be homosexual, then it became optional and now it's legal. I'm getting out before Obama makes it mandatory."
-- Gunnery Sgt Harry Berres, USMC
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Dumbass......what the hell does it look like to u. We have to actively go out and recruit fags now....um why. Because u want to suck cock, I have to want you in the service. I love how this douche thinks he's so superior to us. Go stick your supposed med degree up ur ass.
what is wrong with recruiting gays? they are looking for another population to receive soldiers from,one that hasn't been looked at until now. They do it with blacks, whites etc..
nothing wrong with it at all.
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Dumbass......what the hell does it look like to u. We have to actively go out and recruit fags now....um why. Because u want to suck cock, I have to want you in the service. I love how this douche thinks he's so superior to us. Go stick your supposed med degree up ur ass.
hehe love the med degree meltdown part lol. calm down sweety they wont force you to suck their dicks, but based on how much you like to talk about them i wouldn't put it past you.
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Um.....I could care less what u say u have. Enjoy ur 50% tax rate and shut the f up.
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what is wrong with recruiting gays? they are looking for another population to receive soldiers from,one that hasn't been looked at until now. They do it with blacks, whites etc..
nothing wrong with it at all.
Ur targeting a group based on what they do in bed....yeah that makes perfect sense to ur wacked lib mind. These people define themselves by sex, and then push it in everybodies faces.
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Ur targeting a group based on what they do in bed....yeah that makes perfect sense to ur wacked lib mind. These people define themselves by sex, and then push it in everybodies faces.
so, i still dont see your problem, it is like this because intolerant bigots like you tend to think of them as different then you. If everyone accepted homosexuality then it wouldn't be a defining factor. Go join the KKK and keep hating those because they are different from you.
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Targeting fags for recruitment is all about them, not any skills they bring. All that BS about the US needing arabic speakers and then kicking out gay ones was all from that gay lobby. We have plenty between uniformed and contractors. Again stick to what you know. Much like blind people, homosexuality is not compatable with military service.
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Targeting fags for recruitment is all about them, not any skills they bring. All that BS about the US needing arabic speakers and then kicking out gay ones was all from that gay lobby. We have plenty between uniformed and contractors. Again stick to what you know. Much like blind people, homosexuality is not compatable with military service.
LOL ok tough guy, gays are incompatible with military service for what reason?
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Um...look man u've never worn a unifrom. U don't understand anything about it. U can LOL all u want or do whatever u pansy ass libs do...but until u have served and understand the issues invloved...shut the hell up. We have enough issues with women, now we have to deal with gays as well.
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Um...look man u've never worn a unifrom. U don't understand anything about it. U can LOL all u want or do whatever u pansy ass libs do...but until u have served and understand the issues invloved...shut the hell up. We have enough issues with women, now we have to deal with gays as well.
and a communist traitor and muslim sleeper cell C-I-C
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Um...look man u've never worn a unifrom. U don't understand anything about it. U can LOL all u want or do whatever u pansy ass libs do...but until u have served and understand the issues invloved...shut the hell up. We have enough issues with women, now we have to deal with gays as well.
ah, poor boi...its tough being in the big bad ole military....why cant it be just like the good ole days when it was just white boys able to whoop and yoller? and shoot anything we want?
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I love how u fags try to equate this ridiculous drive for rights u already have as the same as the Black Civil rights movement. Nobody cares that your gay...we do care when you shove it in our faces. DADT worked because kept everybody in the dark. Guess what, most people don't like fags. They don't mean you any harm either. Stop pushing your agenda.
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I love how u fags try to equate this ridiculous drive for rights u already have as the same as the Black Civil rights movement. Nobody cares that your gay...we do care when you shove it in our faces. DADT worked because kept everybody in the dark. Guess what, most people don't like fags. They don't mean you any harm either. Stop pushing your agenda.
because it makes you nervous?
why?
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Why this Marine is getting out of the military
AIPNews.com ^ | July 28, 2011 | Gunnery Sgt Harry Berres, USMC
"When I joined the military it was illegal to be homosexual, then it became optional and now it's legal. I'm getting out before Obama makes it mandatory."
-- Gunnery Sgt Harry Berres, USMC
Who gives a shit???
--PFC Vince Goodrum, US Army
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Um...look man u've never worn a unifrom. U don't understand anything about it. U can LOL all u want or do whatever u pansy ass libs do...but until u have served and understand the issues invloved...shut the hell up. We have enough issues with women, now we have to deal with gays as well.
jesus so many fallacious arguments in this one sentence. So because they are attracted to men they cannot be good soldiers? I can tell you aren't that bright, no disrespect intended, however its certainly disrespectful, but your profession and arguments lead me to believe as much. You also keep getting angry whenever your position is challenged, a clear sign of a closed mind.
hopefully you think about the situation logically.
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The US are becoming a fucking joke...
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The US are becoming a fucking joke...
Yes quite a few nations have commented on the ridiculous politics on display, specifically the tea party.
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Maybe they can form their own unit.
"The Panzie Brigade"
Why not?
You sure as shit aren't going to do it.
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Dumbass......what the hell does it look like to u. We have to actively go out and recruit fags now....um why. Because u want to suck cock, I have to want you in the service. I love how this douche thinks he's so superior to us. Go stick your supposed med degree up ur ass.
Why do you hate gay people?
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jesus so many fallacious arguments in this one sentence. So because they are attracted to men they cannot be good soldiers? I can tell you aren't that bright, no disrespect intended, however its certainly disrespectful, but your profession and arguments lead me to believe as much. You also keep getting angry whenever your position is challenged, a clear sign of a closed mind.
hopefully you think about the situation logically.
Look...let me put this as straight as I can get it to ur supposed educated mind. U idiot libs assume because some of us choose not like or wnat to associate with a certain group..we're idiots. I have served my country for almost 19 years...in that time I have deployed numerous times to combat while assholes like u say things like "we need to cut budgets" or " you should allow gays" or whatever lib pansy ass naive talking point your fed. Make no mistake....I think people like you are so far benath me its not funny. Your a condescending piece of shit. I would never tell you how to act or think, especially in your work place. You, much like most libs, always want to tell the rest of us how to think because you all know it much better then we do....you think we're stupid. I have 2 friggen Masters degree's..who cares. I don't think gays are fit to serve...why..because I've delt with DADT, kicked soldiers out for violating it, delt with the legal issues surrounding gays and service. You have not nor do u understand service or what it takes.
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Why do you hate gay people?
I don't...butthe drama associated with issues they bring is not worth it, hence why DADT worked fine as it was. Oh and how come we have to target gays...Why would they need an out reach program? I got the impression from the debate over the repeal of DADT, that there are millions of gays just waiting for the ban to be lifted so they can join the military. I thought they’d be lined up around the block at recruiting stations around the country on the day the ban is lifted. Gays have allowed their sexuality to define them.
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Look...let me put this as straight as I can get it to ur supposed educated mind. U idiot libs assume because some of us choose not like or wnat to associate with a certain group..we're idiots. I have served my country for almost 19 years...in that time I have deployed numerous times to combat while assholes like u say things like "we need to cut budgets" or " you should allow gays" or whatever lib pansy ass naive talking point your fed. Make no mistake....I think people like you are so far benath me its not funny. Your a condescending piece of shit. I would never tell you how to act or think, especially in your work place. You, much like most libs, always want to tell the rest of us how to think because you all know it much better then we do....you think we're stupid. I have 2 friggen Masters degree's..who cares. I don't think gays are fit to serve...why..because I've delt with DADT, kicked soldiers out for violating it, delt with the legal issues surrounding gays and service. You have not nor do u understand service or what it takes.
But I do and regardless of whatever laws or new rules are in place, it doesn't change the primary goal of the military which is to serve and defend the United States even if it cost us our fucking lives no matter what kind of fucking mess our politicians get us involved in.
A soldier doesn't complain, he ante's the fuck up and kick in. We do our job and that's about it. Its not a one man military....our opinions never counted.
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Look...let me put this as straight as I can get it to ur supposed educated mind. U idiot libs assume because some of us choose not like or wnat to associate with a certain group..we're idiots. I have served my country for almost 19 years...in that time I have deployed numerous times to combat while assholes like u say things like "we need to cut budgets" or " you should allow gays" or whatever lib pansy ass naive talking point your fed. Make no mistake....I think people like you are so far benath me its not funny. Your a condescending piece of shit. I would never tell you how to act or think, especially in your work place. You, much like most libs, always want to tell the rest of us how to think because you all know it much better then we do....you think we're stupid. I have 2 friggen Masters degree's..who cares. I don't think gays are fit to serve...why..because I've delt with DADT, kicked soldiers out for violating it, delt with the legal issues surrounding gays and service. You have not nor do u understand service or what it takes.
you are intolerant that is all. I think all people are equal, certain attributes are obviously going to be different. You on the other hand seem to think that all men are not created equal. For example you may be stupid but perhaps you are much physically stronger then most, or have better control of your emotions, less prone to anxiety etc....
the hassle is worth elevating others to equality just like it was worth it wrt to black people and stopping hitler. Small violations of inalienable rights should not be tolerated.
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I don't...butthe drama associated with issues they bring is not worth it, hence why DADT worked fine as it was. Oh and how come we have to target gays...Why would they need an out reach program? I got the impression from the debate over the repeal of DADT, that there are millions of gays just waiting for the ban to be lifted so they can join the military. I thought they’d be lined up around the block at recruiting stations around the country on the day the ban is lifted. Gays have allowed their sexuality to define them.
You don't hate gays yet you constantly refer to them as 'fags'?
Your whole argument is a carbon copy of pre-integration military.
Seriously, go back through your posts and substitute the N word for 'fag'.
In any event, if you don't like it, just get out of the military. It's too bad you don't like it, this is the way it works from now on. Come to terms with it or move on. Up to you.
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You don't hate gays yet you constantly refer to them as 'fags'?
Your whole argument is a carbon copy of pre-integration military.
Seriously, go back through your posts and substitute the N word for 'fag'.
In any event, if you don't like it, just get out of the military. It's too bad you don't like it, this is the way it works from now on. Come to terms with it or move on. Up to you.
now, be nice; after all, he as TWO master's degrees.
Oral Roberts U or Liberty University?
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Most gays bring on the disdain many have for them all by themselves.
The few gays I know are real selfish pieces of shit. Its all about them, their victim status, their cry baby act, their drama, etc.
I email back and forth with my fbrothers' friend sometimes and he always says "as a second class American", blah blah.
I got fed up one day with his cry baby victim bullshit and told him to move to Indonesia or Kenya if he was so miserable and see how welcomed he would be.
and funny thing too about every twink I know about DADT - you always ask them : "well what the fuck do you care, were you going to join or something?"
They always say no. I ask. well what about those in the field who are fighting and dont want this?
They dont give a damn at all, its all about them and their agenda all the time.
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Most gays bring on the disdain many have for them all by themselves.
The few gays I know are real selfish pieces of shit. Its all about them, their victim status, their cry baby act, their drama, etc.
I email back and forth with my fbrothers' friend sometimes and he always says "as a second class American", blah blah.
I got fed up one day with his cry baby victim bullshit and told him to move to Indonesia or Kenya if he was so miserable and see how welcomed he would be.
and funny thing too about every twink I know about DADT - you always ask them : "well what the fuck do you care, were you going to join or something?"
They always say no. I ask. well what about those in the field who are fighting and dont want this?
They dont give a damn at all, its all about them and their agenda all the time.
You call someone a crybaby yet every single day you whine about Obama or the Democrats or Liberals or something..... ::)
You have no room to talk because you never served in the Armed Forces so stay out of this thread, dipshit. Unless you were in military, you're just talking out of your ass
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You call someone a crybaby yet every single day you whine about Obama or the Democrats or Liberals or something..... ::)
You have no room to talk because you never served in the Armed Forces so stay out of this thread, dipshit. Unless you were in military, you're just talking out of your ass
Obama's policies are destroying the nation day by day.
Every citizen has a right to be utterly pissed off what this marxist mugabe wannabe is doing.
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When I saw this headline, I thought maybe those silhouette targets must be getting expensive...
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Did I read it wrong?
This is a gay group wanting military recruiters to target gays. BFD.
So what?
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Did I read it wrong?
This is a gay group wanting military recruiters to target gays. BFD.
So what?
How about recruiters actually go after the best potential soldiers regardless of sexual nature?
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How about recruiters actually go after the best potential soldiers regardless of sexual nature?
What's changed? A gay group wants them to target gays, thats all. Has Obama made this an executive order?
Well?
BFD ::)
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Can you imagine an enemy soldier having to surrender to a Gay Brigade?
Save the last bullet for yourself dude...
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Can you imagine an enemy soldier having to surrender to a Gay Brigade?
Save the last bullet for yourself dude...
that's the secret plan the military had all along.. ;)
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Most gays bring on the disdain many have for them all by themselves.
The few gays I know are real selfish pieces of shit. Its all about them, their victim status, their cry baby act, their drama, etc.
I email back and forth with my fbrothers' friend sometimes and he always says "as a second class American", blah blah.
I got fed up one day with his cry baby victim bullshit and told him to move to Indonesia or Kenya if he was so miserable and see how welcomed he would be.
and funny thing too about every twink I know about DADT - you always ask them : "well what the fuck do you care, were you going to join or something?"
They always say no. I ask. well what about those in the field who are fighting and dont want this?
They dont give a damn at all, its all about them and their agenda all the time.
Ah, the old 'uppity' blacks argument. Anyone who stands up for themselves is just causing trouble.
You would have called anyone in the Civil Rights movement a communist traitor, someone who didn't know 'their place'. You're what's wrong with this country. Each generation must rise up against bigots like you. It's a shame that you can't learn from history.
Read a history book already.
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Being gay is a sexual preference, it is not a race, creed, or color. Trying to equate it as such is ridiculous, the simple fact that most people join the military at around 18 years old should be self explanatory to the general climate and opinions on homosexuality. In the big picture most politicians have never served, or have any idea how the military really operates.
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Being gay is a sexual preference, it is not a race, creed, or color. Trying to equate it as such is ridiculous, the simple fact that most people join the military at around 18 years old should be self explanatory to the general climate and opinions on homosexuality. In the big picture most politicians have never served, or have any idea how the military really operates.
Thanks for clearing that up.
I mean, it's been debated for decades, but finally Kazan from Getbig can close the door on that argument.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
I mean, it's been debated for decades, but finally Kazan from Getbig can close the door on that argument.
And you have proof otherwise? Please educate us oh wise one. Because apparently only garebare from Getbig knows the facts
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The more hh6 posts, the more i want a drastic reduction in military spending.
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And you have proof otherwise? Please educate us oh wise one. Because apparently only garebare from Getbig knows the facts
I didn't claim certainty; you did.
Try to pay attention.
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I didn't claim certainty; you did.
Try to pay attention.
It's funny because by claiming it is a choice, Kazan is acknowledging that he too could one day become a homosexual.
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I think its both a choice and a born disposition. There are plenty of people who would have sex with the same sex but choose not to.
but i am pretty sure there isn't anyone out there who chooses to have sex with the same sex with out a born disposition to do so.
In any event....
WHO THE FUCK CARES?
GET OVER IT ALREADY MILITARY!
***Imagine the greatest power on earth being taken down by privacy issues in the shower. ::)
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Being gay is a sexual preference, it is not a race, creed, or color. Trying to equate it as such is ridiculous, the simple fact that most people join the military at around 18 years old should be self explanatory to the general climate and opinions on homosexuality. In the big picture most politicians have never served, or have any idea how the military really operates.
being straight is a sexual preference, too?
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being straight is a sexual preference, too?
No, its the biological norm in order to reproduce the species.
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Ah, the old 'uppity' blacks argument. Anyone who stands up for themselves is just causing trouble.
You would have called anyone in the Civil Rights movement a communist traitor, someone who didn't know 'their place'. You're what's wrong with this country. Each generation must rise up against bigots like you. It's a shame that you can't learn from history.
Read a history book already.
congratulations on a great post.
two finger snaps to 333386 ;)
puttin' that uppity bigot in his place. ain't easy to do 'round here. glad you did. :D
then again, this area isn't really his favorite place; you didn't mention Obama...that's what gives him the hard on!
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congratulations on a great post.
two finger snaps to 333386 ;)
puttin' that uppity bigot in his place. ain't easy to do 'round here. glad you did. :D
then again, this area isn't really his favorite place; you didn't mention Obama...that's what gives him the hard on!
I can't wait till the twinks, lgbt, 95'ers, enviro marxists, et al try to rise up against the taxpayers.
Like Jefferson said about every 20 years . . . .
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I can't wait till the twinks, lgbt, 95'ers, enviro marxists, et al try to rise up against the taxpayers.
Like Jefferson said about every 20 years . . . .
good attempt to deflect...
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But I do and regardless of whatever laws or new rules are in place, it doesn't change the primary goal of the military which is to serve and defend the United States even if it cost us our fucking lives no matter what kind of fucking mess our politicians get us involved in.
A soldier doesn't complain, he ante's the fuck up and kick in. We do our job and that's about it. Its not a one man military....our opinions never counted.
Thats why you were a PFC, I'm well past the buck up and soldier. My concern is for the institution of the military. Our level's of responsibility were and are completely different. Gays and the drama associated with this are a headache. Further, does anybody think the various liberal agenda's will stop here. It started with Clinton and all his buillshit and it continues today with Barry and his....all to get votes.
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No, its the biological norm in order to reproduce the species.
if you mean more common sure, homosexuality occurs in about 200 species in the wild perhaps much more, its certainly natural and sexuality has already been shown to be on a continum, like ive already stated. The argument of continuing the species is moot as we will be overpopulated if we are not already, its of no harm ecologically or genetically.
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if you mean more common sure, homosexuality occurs in about 200 species in the wild perhaps much more, its certainly natural and sexuality has already been shown to be on a continum, like ive already stated. The argument of continuing the species is moot as we will be overpopulated if we are not already, its of no harm ecologically or genetically.
200 species out of how many ?
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That means nothing as far as the morality of gay sex. Chimpanzees murder each other.. Should we justify murder because chimpanzees do it?
"Incest" is observed in the animal kingdom, even among high mammals, does that mean this behavior also should be acceptable since animals do them? No. The gay animal argument is just stupid. While the British also were forced to allow homosexuals their model is different from ours. They have a small force and they have a much more secular society. Our military is bastion of Christian conservatism. Many of our top leaders are devote christians...we're alienating a highly trained and large majority of our troops. Nobody said gays couldn't serve, just couldn't do so openly. Everybody wins...now only the gay agenda wins.
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The best part is that most of those screaming about gays openly serving have no intention of ever serving themselves.
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Libs lead by exemption...look at ol Barry le Douche.
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Libs lead by exemption...look at ol Barry le Douche.
Like I said - gays themselves with their bullshit make it very hard to have an ounce of sympathy for their nonsense.
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That means nothing as far as the morality of gay sex. Chimpanzees murder each other.. Should we justify murder because chimpanzees do it?
"Incest" is observed in the animal kingdom, even among high mammals, does that mean this behavior also should be acceptable since animals do them? No. The gay animal argument is just stupid. While the British also were forced to allow homosexuals their model is different from ours. They have a small force and they have a much more secular society. Our military is bastion of Christian conservatism. Many of our top leaders are devote christians...we're alienating a highly trained and large majority of our troops. Nobody said gays couldn't serve, just couldn't do so openly. Everybody wins...now only the gay agenda wins.
This post is like taking a big shit on the Constitution.
We're supposed to capitulate to Christians and abandon our democracy?
Should we have kept slavery so that Southern Christians wouldn't be 'offended'?
Your time has simply passed. You come off as a crusty, old bigot, and nothing besides.
Also, there is still time to master the apostrophe.
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This post is like taking a big shit on the Constitution.
We're supposed to capitulate to Christians and abandon our democracy?
Should we have kept slavery so that Southern Christians wouldn't be 'offended'?
Your time has simply passed. You come off as a crusty, old bigot, and nothing besides.
Also, there is still time to master the apostrophe.
Race, national originan, and religion are not the same thing as sexual preference and banging dudes.
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That means nothing as far as the morality of gay sex. Chimpanzees murder each other.. Should we justify murder because chimpanzees do it?
"Incest" is observed in the animal kingdom, even among high mammals, does that mean this behavior also should be acceptable since animals do them? No. The gay animal argument is just stupid. While the British also were forced to allow homosexuals their model is different from ours. They have a small force and they have a much more secular society. Our military is bastion of Christian conservatism. Many of our top leaders are devote christians...we're alienating a highly trained and large majority of our troops. Nobody said gays couldn't serve, just couldn't do so openly. Everybody wins...now only the gay agenda wins.
So i guess our military is now obsolete? Unable to change, adapt, overcome......
The "Blacks" argument isn't the same, but it does share similarities and just like then, we will be fine.
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You're no longer in so I guess it doesn't matter does it? The Constitution has nothing...nothing to do with this. Good order and discipline, remember that? This causes waaay more issues then its worth, especially as we're engaged in combat. The rest of your arguments are retarded. Gays represent a minority in the US yet their constant whining caused all the marriage bs, the DADT issue...all of it. Now your going to have lawsuits because shitbag gays who get bounced for being shitbags will cry foul. Senior Officers and NCO's will be scared to attempt to discharge shitbags who also happen to be gays..nobody wants to risk retirement for a cock sucker. I bounced a gay soldier...for being a shitbag. He was so sure we would denigrate him and he'd have some kind of case against the command. Unfortunatly for him we had a masive packet on him for being a shitbag. Once he came out we told him we could bounce him for DADT, which would take longer or bounce him for being a shitbag and he'd still get some of his bene's, including his GI Bill. He chose shitbag. I know the UCMJ backwards and forwards. My NCO's were'nt gonna get rolled by an idiot. But wait..now with open homosexuality more time will be wasted on this then real work.
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So i guess our military is now obsolete? Unable to change, adapt, overcome......
The "Blacks" argument isn't the same, but it does share similarities and just like then, we will be fine.
Why should someone "change" to accomodate a behavior and lifestyle many actually serving in the field protecting your left wing ass thing will weaken it?
Again - that word "change", where did we hear that before?
Oh thats' right - the abject idiots and morons in this country elected the most destructive admn in history based on the empty bogus promise of "change" not even realizing what it meant, and if they did and agreed with that are even worse morons and idiots than previously thought.
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You're no longer in so I guess it doesn't matter does it? The Constitution has nothing...nothing to do with this. Good order and discipline, remember that? This causes waaay more issues then its worth, especially as we're engaged in combat. The rest of your arguments are retarded. Gays represent a minority in the US yet their constant whining caused all the marriage bs, the DADT issue...all of it. Now your going to have lawsuits because shitbag gays who get bounced for being shitbags will cry foul. Senior Officers and NCO's will be scared to attempt to discharge shitbags who also happen to be gays..nobody wants to risk retirement for a cock sucker. I bounced a gay soldier...for being a shitbag. He was so sure we would denigrate him and he'd have some kind of case against the command. Unfortunatly for him we had a masive packet on him for being a shitbag. Once he came out we told him we could bounce him for DADT, which would take longer or bounce him for being a shitbag and he'd still get some of his bene's, including his GI Bill. He chose shitbag. I know the UCMJ backwards and forwards. My NCO's were'nt gonna get rolled by an idiot. But wait..now with open homosexuality more time will be wasted on this then real work.
I was never in. However, i did spend 90% of my childhood on bases overseas and my teen age years at a public school with 95% military kids.
I don't doubt there's gonna be problems and i don't for one second think there isn't shit bag gays who whine all the time and will cause problems. there are also plenty of shit bag non gays who would have no problem getting you in deep shit.
The military will figure out how to solve these problems and make it run as rocky or smooth as it normally does. If they have any questions, our friends across the pond can give us advice.
Not to sound like a dick, but get over it already. Welcome to the 21st century!
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Why should someone "change" to accomodate a behavior and lifestyle many actually serving in the field protecting your left wing ass thing will weaken it?
Again - that word "change", where did we hear that before?
Oh thats' right - the abject idiots and morons in this country elected the most destructive admn in history based on the empty bogus promise of "change" not even realizing what it meant, and if they did and agreed with that are even worse morons and idiots than previously thought.
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Welcome to the 21st century!
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Great argument.
Does that mean I should accept socialism, and spreading the wealth, and obamnomics as well?
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Great argument.
Does that mean I should accept socialism, and spreading the wealth, and obamnomics as well?
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You're no longer in so I guess it doesn't matter does it? The Constitution has nothing...nothing to do with this. Good order and discipline, remember that? This causes waaay more issues then its worth, especially as we're engaged in combat. The rest of your arguments are retarded. Gays represent a minority in the US yet their constant whining caused all the marriage bs, the DADT issue...all of it. Now your going to have lawsuits because shitbag gays who get bounced for being shitbags will cry foul. Senior Officers and NCO's will be scared to attempt to discharge shitbags who also happen to be gays..nobody wants to risk retirement for a cock sucker. I bounced a gay soldier...for being a shitbag. He was so sure we would denigrate him and he'd have some kind of case against the command. Unfortunatly for him we had a masive packet on him for being a shitbag. Once he came out we told him we could bounce him for DADT, which would take longer or bounce him for being a shitbag and he'd still get some of his bene's, including his GI Bill. He chose shitbag. I know the UCMJ backwards and forwards. My NCO's were'nt gonna get rolled by an idiot. But wait..now with open homosexuality more time will be wasted on this then real work.
You need to drop that elitist attitude that no one can have an opinion about the military that's not in it.
Even if you're not in uniform, you're still an American citizen that has a voice in what happens in his or her democracy. Stop acting like you alone speak for the military (because you've been there). So have a lot of other people, who would disagree with you on a range of issues. You pretend to speak for everyone with your mental garbage. That's not even close to being accurate and you know it.
I knew a black soldier who was a shitbag. Should we ban all blacks?
I knew a white soldier who was a shitbag. Should we ban all whites?
Actually, if anyone should be kicked out, it's you. You're a damned bigot and you know it. You're a fossil and it's already over. Keep venting on the bodybuilding message boards while the world moves on without you. It's kind of funny anymore. You already lost your justifiable hate. Guess what? It's not 1985.
Damn, you take all the honor right out of being in the military. I'm ashamed to have served in the same Army as you.
Do you know that?
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Being gay is a sexual preference, it is not a race, creed, or color. Trying to equate it as such is ridiculous, the simple fact that most people join the military at around 18 years old should be self explanatory to the general climate and opinions on homosexuality. In the big picture most politicians have never served, or have any idea how the military really operates.
Agree.
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You need to drop that elitist attitude that no one can have an opinion about the military that's not in it.
Even if you're not in uniform, you're still an American citizen that has a voice in what happens in his or her democracy. Stop acting like you alone speak for the military (because you've been there). So have a lot of other people, who would disagree with you on a range of issues. You pretend to speak for everyone with your mental garbage. That's not even close to being accurate and you know it.
I knew a black soldier who was a shitbag. Should we ban all blacks?
I knew a white soldier who was a shitbag. Should we ban all whites?
Actually, if anyone should be kicked out, it's you. You're a damned bigot and you know it. You're a fossil and it's already over. Keep venting on the bodybuilding message boards while the world moves on without you. It's kind of funny anymore. You already lost your justifiable hate. Guess what? It's not 1985.
Damn, you take all the honor right out of being in the military. I'm ashamed to have served in the same Army as you.
Do you know that?
Sure thing dude...sure thing. U fucking idiot libs will never learn. I figured my post would go over your head. As for serving, not serving opinions etc. If u have'nt served you really have no idea..if u served pre DADT repeal...u'll further have no idea. I was in 6th grade in 1985. I don't speak for idiots like you who either don't care or it no longer really matters to but unlike you this shit will have repercussions on readiness. Your a lib....I'm sorry.
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if you mean more common sure, homosexuality occurs in about 200 species in the wild perhaps much more, its certainly natural and sexuality has already been shown to be on a continum, like ive already stated. The argument of continuing the species is moot as we will be overpopulated if we are not already, its of no harm ecologically or genetically.
LMFAO, simply b/c it happens in multiple species in very very small percentages does not make it normal...
it makes it happening normal but it doesnt make the actions normal...
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That means nothing as far as the morality of gay sex. Chimpanzees murder each other.. Should we justify murder because chimpanzees do it?
"Incest" is observed in the animal kingdom, even among high mammals, does that mean this behavior also should be acceptable since animals do them? No. The gay animal argument is just stupid. While the British also were forced to allow homosexuals their model is different from ours. They have a small force and they have a much more secular society. Our military is bastion of Christian conservatism. Many of our top leaders are devote christians...we're alienating a highly trained and large majority of our troops. Nobody said gays couldn't serve, just couldn't do so openly. Everybody wins...now only the gay agenda wins.
Good points. I've also read about uncertainty regarding what Chaplains can and cannot say. Definitely some land mines, but at the end of the day I'm not convinced enough will come out of the closet to have any impact one way or another.
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I have said from the start, the agenda is the biggest problem, allowing a liberal agenda to dictate anything as regards the US military is bad. Whether I like or dislike gays has very little to do with it. My job does not allow me to complain about policy, mostly I have to defend the, at times, ridiculous things the US Army does. I have said a billion times DADT worked..nobody thought about gays. Now its different. This is just the start of the social engineering libs will try to do. Libs hate the military so why not poke it in the eye.
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Race, national originan, and religion are not the same thing as sexual preference and banging dudes.
why do you always ALWAYS leave out the lesbians?
they dont scare you as much?
wait till the local chapter of the NY dykes on bikes drive by your work...
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why do you always ALWAYS leave out the lesbians?
they dont scare you as much?
wait till the local chapter of the NY dykes on bikes drive by your work...
I usually can't tell the difference.
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I usually can't tell the difference.
lol.
the dykes ride the bikes.
the 'mos can repair them; and do their hair...at the same time.
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Eric Holder: If Gay Adults Are Fit for Military Service, They Are Fit to Lead Boy Scouts
CNS News ^ | 06/13/2014 | Susan Jones
Posted on 6/13/2014 4:21:44 PM by SeekAndFind
The Attorney General of the United States told a homosexual advocacy group on Tuesday night that the Boy Scouts of America "preserves and perpetuates the worst kind of stereotypes" by refusing to allow homosexuals to serve as Boy Scout troop leaders.
"Today, courageous lesbian, gay, and bisexual individuals routinely put their lives on the line as members of America's armed services," Holder told Lambda Legal Tuesday night. "And if these men and women are fit for military service, then surely they are fit to mentor, to teach, and to serve as role models for the leaders of future generations."
In June 2000, the U.S. Supreme Court, in a 5–4 ruling, said the Boy Scouts had a constitutional right, as a private organization, to exclude homosexuals from leadership positions.
Almost nine years later, President Obama came into office, pledging to repeal the military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. In December 2010, he signed a bill passed by the Democrat-majority Congress repealing the ban on homosexual men and women serving openly in the armed services.
Holder received a warm reception Tuesday night at the Lambda Legal reception, where he promised that the fight for civil rights and "LGBT equality" remains a "top priority," not only for the Justice Department, but "for me personally."
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One of my new soldiers is a lesbian...its kinda cool we say no hetero a lot.....
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One of my new soldiers is a lesbian...its kinda cool we say no hetero a lot.....
probably SC;s 'girlfriend' he brags about lately.