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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-interviews/4041-the-md-roundtable-ronnie-coleman-flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.html (http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-interviews/4041-the-md-roundtable-ronnie-coleman-flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.html)
In this video Ronnie Coleman talks about his career as a bodybuilder and how Flex Wheeler introduced him to Chad Nicholls. Flex admits that never did he dream that Ronnie would become such a fierce competitor. Ronnie talks about his basic diet principles and also how Flex gave him a competitive advantage.
Ronnie talks about his future plans for competition, his battles with Flex, Levrone, and Shawn on stage and much more.
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How can anybody not love Ronnie Coleman. What a cool dude ;D
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Lol @ the size difference between Ronnie and Flex.
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How can anybody not love Ronnie Coleman. What a cool dude ;D
Agreed, it's that Southern "Good Ol' Boy" attitude with humility, respect and that "gosh darn" likeability....
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Agreed, it's that Southern "Good Ol' Boy" attitude with humility, respect and that "gosh darn" likeability....
besides the blatant lying about competition to stay relevant. But I guess hes a BB so lol.
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He knows his place in the pecking order and shows respect.
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Agreed, it's that Southern "Good Ol' Boy" attitude with humility, respect and that "gosh darn" likeability....
also why everybody loves Haney
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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-interviews/4055-the-md-roundtable-part-3-ronnie-coleman-flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.html
05:45
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I love Ronnie. He's like a big muscle bear.
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WOW ... Ronnie couldn't stand placing second to cutler ...
Better question is, WHY Is Shawn Ray saying "THE FIX WAS IN"
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I love Ronnie. He's like a big muscle bear.
yeah everybody loves ronnie
while i dont like flex wheeler as much i am just shocked by what this dude went through
he made me feel better about my wide waist with what he said in this video
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WOW ... Ronnie couldn't stand placing second to cutler
jay cutler isn't vey good at admitting defeat either
i love this video, amazing how much hate these guys have for eachother and try to laugh it off
"big jay....now he all by himself runnin' the show ha ha ha"
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WOW ... Ronnie couldn't stand placing second to cutler ...
Better question is, WHY Is Shawn Ray saying "THE FIX WAS IN"
Even with the injuries, Ronnie was better than Cutler. Shit, Ronnie soundly beat him at a Euro Show a week later, but of course, a reigning MrO doesn't lose those shows.
He gets stuck with Lee at 8 when he should have 9.
The travesty is if Cutler goes beyond 6 with Yates.
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Jay FTMFW win.
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Even with the injuries, Ronnie was better than Cutler. Shit, Ronnie soundly beat him at a Euro Show a week later, but of course, a reigning MrO doesn't lose those shows.
He gets stuck with Lee at 8 when he should have 9.
The travesty is if Cutler goes beyond 6 with Yates.
i don't understand why cutler wins. i get it, he's wide, but so is dennis wolf, so then why isn't wolf winning
and if width is so great why didnt dennis james win
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"I gave it to him. Dexter Jackson didn't win the Olympia in 2008. I GAVE the title to him."
What an asshole. Dexter was and is superior.
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Ronnie's a sore loser.
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i don't understand why cutler wins. i get it, he's wide, but so is dennis wolf, so then why isn't wolf winning
and if width is so great why didnt dennis james win
Why????? Because Jay is the biggest baddest BB on the planet right now, thats why.
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WOW ... Ronnie couldn't stand placing second to cutler ...
Better question is, WHY Is Shawn Ray saying "THE FIX WAS IN"
Nope or Gunther either
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Why????? Because Jay is the biggest baddest BB on the planet right now, thats why.
no he isn't
he just has great width and quads, apart from that he looks like a huge fridge
his quad is even going to shit now for some obscure reason
his back is also great but his arms look like shapeless lumps of synthol and his stomach looks like it's 95 years old
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"I gave it to him. Dexter Jackson didn't win the Olympia in 2008. I GAVE the title to him."
What an asshole. Dexter was and is superior.
Dex is a tiny tit.
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Dex is a tiny tit.
A tiny tit that made Cutler his bitch...He opened the fridge door, and raided it...
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Ronnie's a sore loser.
He was in 2002 at the SOS when he lost to Gunther too , but you have to put yourself in his mindset , in order to be the best you have to convince yourself you are the best and he was the best a winners mindset , Flex had second doubts about winning in 1998 and sabotaged his efforts ( according to him ) because he didn't feel like he deserved to win
Ronnie got complacent and slacked off a little 2001/2002 with Jay , Gunther and to an extent Kevin and these got got close but 100% on Ronnie was untouchable compared to these guys , Ronnie got motivated in 03 and crushed them all
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Dex is a tiny tit.
dexter is 10 times the bodybuilder cutler is
razor sharp waist, genetically nearly PERFECT abs, big full arms
actually looks like shredded muscle not a huge vainless blob
(http://www.musclelegion.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Dexter-Jackson-3.jpg)
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(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/c/1/c1e17-Dexter_Jackson_Back2.jpg)
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hahah shawn ray "6 foot 6 foot 6 foot"
poor guy
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(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/c/1/c1e17-Dexter_Jackson_Back2.jpg)
crazy triceps
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i love this video, amazing how much hate these guys have for eachother and try to laugh it off
Like NASSER always said, there are no "friendships" in bodybuilding (responding to people accusing him of backtalking his "friends" in his post-retirement interviews) :)
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Like NASSER always said, there are no "friendships" in bodybuilding (responding to people accusing him of backtalking his "friends" in his post-retirement interviews) :)
insulina+fridge=friends
ronnie+shawn+flex=friends
DJ+insulina=friends
ronnie+gregg valentino=friends
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no?
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Dex was gifted a year won't happen EVER again, mark my words, boys.
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Like NASSER always said, there are no "friendships" in bodybuilding (responding to people accusing him of backtalking his "friends" in his post-retirement interviews) :)
No Nasser didn't always say that , Nasser marketed himself as the ' Good guy ' the likable pro , Mr Friendly when his career tanked and he got bitter he badmouthed everyone and mad himself look like a tool
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Dex was gifted a year won't happen EVER again, mark my words, boys.
where did you get this classified informations? ::)
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They had a rivalry, there is no hate...
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i don't understand why cutler wins. i get it, he's wide, but so is dennis wolf, so then why isn't wolf winning
and if width is so great why didnt dennis james win
...and if just about 'mass and conditioning' why doesnt paco win every show?
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...and if just about 'mass and conditioning' why does paco win every show?
bodybuilding judging...how does it work
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They had a rivalry, there is no hate...
Parker you know better than that , there was NO rivalry between Jay and Ronnie , Ronnie was his superior until he got hurt , Flex and Ronnie had the rivalry they could and would go tit-for-tat in contests until Ronnie worked with The Chad , if Ronnie lost to Flex in an Olympia he wouldn't have minded as much as Jay because he deemed Flex as worthy of beating him
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No Nasser didn't always say that , Nasser marketed himself as the ' Good guy ' the likable pro , Mr Friendly when his career tanked and he got bitter he badmouthed everyone and mad himself look like a tool
he spoke similar opinions during his career towards Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray, Dennis Newman, perhaps others too I'm forgetting now.
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bodybuilding judging...how does it work
here you go ;D
When assessing a competitor’s physique, a judge should follow a
routine procedure which will allow a comprehensive assessment of
the physique as a whole. During the comparisons of the
compulsory poses, the judge should first look at the primary
muscle group being displayed. The judge should then survey the
whole physique, starting from the head, and looking at every part
of the physique in a downward sequence, beginning with general
impressions, and looking for muscular bulk, balanced
development, muscular density and definition. The downward
survey should take in the head, neck, shoulders, chest, all of the
arm muscles, front of the trunk for pectorals, pec-delt tie-in,
abdominals, waist, thighs, legs, calves and feet. The same
procedure for back poses will also take in the upper and lower
trapezius, teres and infraspinatus, erector spinae, the gluteus
group, the leg biceps group at the back of the thighs, calves, and
feet. A detailed assessment of the various muscle groups should
be made during the comparisons, at which time it helps the judge
to compare muscle shape, density, and definition while still
bearing in mind the competitor’s overall balanced development.
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.
Front Double Biceps (see Figure 1)
Standing face front to the judges, with the legs and feet
in-line and a short distance apart, the competitor will raise
both arms to shoulder level and bend them at the elbows.
The hands should be clenched and turned down so as to
cause a contraction of the biceps and forearm muscles,
which are the main muscle groups that are to be assessed
in this pose. In addition, the competitor should attempt
to contract as many other muscles as possible as the
judges will be surveying the whole physique, from head to
toe.
The judge will first survey the biceps muscles looking for a
full, peaked development of the muscle, noting whether
or not there is a defined split between the anterior and
posterior sections of the biceps, and will continue the
head-to-toe survey by observing the development of the
forearms, deltoids, pectorals, pec-delt tie-ins, abdominals,
thighs, and calves. The judge will also look for muscle
density, definition, and overall balance.
Front Lat Spread (see Figure 2)
Standing face front to the judges, with the legs and feet a
short distance apart, the competitor will place the open
hands, or clenched fists, against, or gripping, the lower
waist or obliques and will expand the latissimus muscles.
At the same time, the competitor should attempt to
contract as many other frontal muscles as possible. It
shall be strictly forbidden for the competitor to pull up on
the posing trunks so as to show the top inside of the
quadriceps.
The judge should first see whether the competitor can
show a good spread of the latissimus muscles, thereby
creating a V-shaped torso. Then the judge should
continue with the head-to-foot survey, noting first the
general aspectsof the physique and then concentrating on
the more detailed aspects of the various muscle groups.
3. Side Chest (see Figure 3)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose, in
order to display the “better” arm. He will stand with his
left or right side towards the judges and will bend the arm
nearest the judges to a right-angle position, with the fist
clenched and, with the other hand, will grasp the wrist.
The leg nearest the judges will be bent at the knee and
will rest on the toes. The competitor will then expand the
chest and by upward pressure of the front bent arm and
contract the biceps as much as possible. He will also
contract the thigh muscles, in particular, the biceps
femoris group, and by downward pressure on his toes,
will display the contracted calf muscles.
The judge will pay particular attention to the pectoral
muscles and the arch of the rib cage, the biceps, the leg
biceps and the calves, and will conclude with the head-tofoot
examination. In this pose the judge will be able to
survey the thigh and calf muscles in profile, which will
help in grading their comparative development more
accurately.
Back Double Biceps (see Figure 4)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
bend the arms and wrists as in the Front Double Biceps
pose, and will place one foot back, resting on the toes.
He will then contract the arm muscles as well as the
muscles of the shoulders, upper and lower back, thigh
and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the arm muscles and then do
the head-to-foot survey, during which there are more
muscle groups to look at than in all of the other poses.
This includes the neck, deltoids, biceps, triceps, forearm,
trapezius, teres, infraspinatus, erector spinae, external
obliques, latissimus dorsi, gluteus, thigh biceps, and
calves. This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance.
Back Lat Spread (see Figure 5)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
place his hands on his waist with his elbows kept wide,
one foot back and resting on the toes. He will then
contract the latissimus dorsi as wide as possible and
display a calf contraction by pressing downward on the
rear toes. The competitor should make an effort to
display the opposite calf to that which was displayed
during the back double biceps pose so the the judge may
assess both calf muscle equally. It shall be strictly
forbidden for the competitor to pull up on the posing
trunks so as to show the gluteus maximus muscles.
The judge will look for a good spread of the latissimus
dorsi, but also for good muscle density and will again
conclude with the head-to-foot survey.
6. Side Triceps (see Figure 6)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose so as
to show the “better” arm. He will stand with his left or
right side towards the judges and will place both arms
behind his back, either linking his fingers or grasping the
front arm by the wrist with his rear hand. The leg nearest
the judges will be bent at the knee and the foot will rest
flat on the floor. The competitor will exert pressure
against his front arm, thereby causing the triceps muscle
to contract. He will also raise the chest and contract the
abdominal muscles as well as the thigh and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the triceps muscles, and
conclude with the head-to-foot examination. In this pose,
the judge will be able to survey the thigh and calf muscles
in profile, which will help in grading their comparative
development more accurately.
Abdominals and Thighs (see Figure 7)
Standing face front to the judges, the competitor will
place both arms behind the head and will place one leg
forward. He will then contract the abdominal muscles by
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“crunching” the trunk slightly forward. At the same time,
he will contract the thigh muscles of the forward leg.
The judge will survey the abdominal and thigh muscles,
and then conclude with the head-to-foot examination.
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he spoke similar opinions during his career towards Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray, Dennis Newman, perhaps others too I'm forgetting now.
Not to the extent he did after he retired
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Gh15 is Ron Coleman mark my word
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Parker you know better than that , there was NO rivalry between Jay and Ronnie , Ronnie was his superior until he got hurt , Flex and Ronnie had the rivalry they could and would go tit-for-tat in contests until Ronnie worked with The Chad , if Ronnie lost to Flex in an Olympia he wouldn't have minded as much as Jay because he deemed Flex as worthy of beating him
I was more referring to Shawn, Flex, Ronnie, one could add Dorian and shawn's relationship as well...They came from an era of quality
i do agree with you, plus it was due to Ronnie's prodding that Flex came out of his "retirement"...Ronnie enjoyed the rivalry, and deemed Flex "as worthy of beating him"....
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Gh15 is Ron Coleman mark my word
ABSOLUTELY NOT
the way GH15 talks about penis size and black genetics makes it very obvious he's a white guy
pretty sure ronnie coleman doesn't even know there are actually penises under 7"
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I just watched the video and can state that I really saw no animosity towards Cutler from Coleman or the others. What I did see was highly competitive men discussing their bodybuilding careers and being candid about loses, but with a sense of humor about them.
The same holds true for the Cutler videos about Dexter and Ronnie. In much the same way as Pumping Iron, when it comes to the rivalries between competitors, these videos are more of a "mini-mockumentary" than anything else. Yes, every competitor wants to win and generally thinks they should have won, but again I noticed no genuine hatred for other competitors from Jay.
This attitude from all the people involved in these film clips was, to be honest, quite refreshing.
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There is no friggin' way Flex ever had the capacity to squat 600, for a single or reps. Ronnie, yes, totally, and Shawn was a much better squatter than Flex, and he was maybe good for, oh, I don't know, six-ish for maybe two or, at most, three.
Wheeler just cannot stop lying. Or he actually belives his own bullshit. And as far as him being "natural" for that one show, he sure as shit had stuff in his veins during the contest prep. His system was definitely not cleaned out.
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lol at someone stepping onto olympia stage natural, shawn and ron don't even crack a smile when he says it, they'd don't even flinch
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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-interviews/4056-the-md-roundtable-part-4-ronnie-coleman-flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.html
completely agree.. today's pros ... LAZY as hell
heath wolf etc lazy... and ALL DRUGS
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That's just 3 Black men's opinions. ;D
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That's just 3 Black men's opinions. ;D
;D
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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-interviews/4056-the-md-roundtable-part-4-ronnie-coleman-flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.html
completely agree.. today's pros ... LAZY as hell
heath wolf etc lazy... and ALL DRUGS
Did you miss the part where Flex said Heath reminds him of all three of them? or that he's the future of bodybuilding? Heath isn't any more ' ALL DRUGS ' than any of them were
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heath shape yes..... hard work no.....
i like heath and he should win this year
but he kinda got everything handed to him he nnever struggled...
just my opinion
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heath shape yes..... hard work no.....
i like heath and he should win this year
but he kinda got everything handed to him he nnever struggled...
just my opinion
I like jayson,,,but I know personally jayson got heath in the bodybuilding business,,,he was introduced to the business side,,,showed him drugs to use,,,,etc,,,,you get idea it was a cake walk for heath just becuase he knew jayson,,,
remember this next time,,when jayson comes in,,,fcked up look at heath also,,,you will see the same hormones used between them if one is lacking,,,due to whatever,,,they willl both be the same the day of the olympia,,,I will be back stage talking to them,,,,
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No Nasser didn't always say that , Nasser marketed himself as the ' Good guy ' the likable pro , Mr Friendly when his career tanked and he got bitter he badmouthed everyone and mad himself look like a tool
nasser in 1997:
Much has been written about my “weak back” but all the top finishers at the last Olympia (1996) have weaknesses that are never written about in depth, and the bodybuilders themselves never discuss them. Why is my back the only weak body-part that is constantly being discussed? Because I am the only top pro who is prepared to say, “Yes, I am not perfect, I do have a weakness. There is still plenty of room for improving my physique.” Because of my honesty I have been the target of criticism, much of it exaggerated, about my back. Therefore, I feel justified in pointing out the weaknesses in others.
Dorian (Yates) never admits he has weak points. He never admits that his arms are weak, that his rear deltoids are poor or that his quads lack separation. Everybody asks me, “Have you improved your back?” Nobody asks Dorian, “Have you improved your arms?” When I am training, people will come by and ask, “How is your back coming along?” Do they ask Dorian how his arms are doing?
I think Dorian is an outstanding champion, but I honestly feel his back overpowers the rest of his physique. Is it wrong to suggest we call him – in the way Paul DeMayo was nicknamed Quadzilla because his quads overpowered the rest of his physique – Backzilla? Also, Dorian said he was 255LBS for the 1995 Olympia and that for the 96’ Olympia he had put on 2LBS. How is it possible to gain 2LBS more in size but look smaller at 257LBS than 255? When did he step on the scale – after breakfast, before going to the restroom?
Flex Wheeler, at first glance, seems to have a balanced physique.
People do talk about his “nice lines,” but he has them because some essential muscle mass is missing from his frame. For instance, when he does the abs – and – thighs pose, his lats disappear. Take away his arms and you are left with a juvenile body. I am 5’11” and compete at 285LBS; Flex is an inch shorter and competes – he says – at 224LBS, but I think he is about 10LBS lighter. He has a small waist for sure, but he also has a big butt and narrow shoulders, just like Shawn Ray. Check abs shots of both of these guys. I call Flex the Lord of Illusion.
Shawn Ray should apply for a job at Fed-EX, because he tells everyone he has the perfect package. But he is short, his calves are high, his shoulders are narrow and his back lacks width. He calls bodybuilders like me mass monsters, so I feel to call him a mini-monster. It is not my fault that Shawn doesn’t possess the physical capability to put on added size and still look proportionate, symmetrical, hard and ripped. Is he another victim of the misconception that someone over 250LBS can’t have a balanced physique, and is he betraying the naked fears that he belongs to yesterday and not tomorrow?
Kevin Levrone calls himself the “most genetically gifted bodybuilder,” but his chest, back and calves are in need of further development and have been for at least three years. And I’m not going to get into talking about his long torso or skinny neck.
I call Paul Dillet the “Great Plains” due to all the wide – open spaces his physique contains. From the side, he is flat, and his arms take up most of the space. He has large varicose veins on his chest that create an Illusion of having pec development. If these guys are upset by my comments, though! They weren’t too upset to criticize my physique.
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hahaha brutal owning by nasser.
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Here is MD's Roundtable with Shawn Ray (interviewer), Ronnie Coleman, and Flex Wheeler. Done at Ronnie Coleman's house, this is all 4 segments
Part 1
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-interviews/4041-the-md-roundtable-ronnie-coleman-flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.html (http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-interviews/4041-the-md-roundtable-ronnie-coleman-flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.html)
Part 2
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-interviews/4048-the-md-roundtable-ronnie-coleman-flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.html (http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-interviews/4048-the-md-roundtable-ronnie-coleman-flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.html)
Part 3
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-interviews/4055-the-md-roundtable-part-3-ronnie-coleman-flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.html (http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-interviews/4055-the-md-roundtable-part-3-ronnie-coleman-flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.html)
Part 4
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-interviews/4056-the-md-roundtable-part-4-ronnie-coleman-flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.html (http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-interviews/4056-the-md-roundtable-part-4-ronnie-coleman-flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.html)
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must see videos
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must see videos
More people need to watch it...there is alot of telling info in that...and I don't think that will see this type of "aw shucks" from this era, maybe from Dex, Jay and Phil (and Kai), maybe...
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GREAT LINK, thanks...still a shame that we're not at a point where they can 'openly' talk about drugs and it's role, but this is the kind of interview I've been waiting for a long time. Good stuff.
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I'll watch these later but...
...haha at ronnie choosing to do the interview in his trophy room. Awesome way to put Shawn and Flex in their place before the interview even begins :D
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gh15 = flex wheeler
lots of use of the word 'foundation'
not really but still interesting
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Ronnie's awesome. He such a mellow, happy go lucky guy. (no homo)
:)
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those were great vids, the roundtable with flex, shawn and kevin was awesome too
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There is no friggin' way Flex ever had the capacity to squat 600, for a single or reps. Ronnie, yes, totally, and Shawn was a much better squatter than Flex, and he was maybe good for, oh, I don't know, six-ish for maybe two or, at most, three.
Wheeler just cannot stop lying. Or he actually belives his own bullshit. And as far as him being "natural" for that one show, he sure as shit had stuff in his veins during the contest prep. His system was definitely not cleaned out.
I totally agree flex was a lazy fucker in the gym....
I can't see him having the mindset to squat 600 or anything past 315
Lazy lazy lazy and hated training
He was doing tricep pressdowns and curls superset in one of his videos
And he told his brother and training partner to keep an eye on him or he would cheat reps and not finish
... Lazy lying piece of garbage
He made up lies about being attacked by ninjas ... For heaven sakes...
Flex great physique
Fucked up individual
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gh15 = flex wheeler
lots of use of the word 'foundation'
not really but still interesting
gh15 says BODYBUILD = ALL HORMONES!!! NO HORMONES = NO BODYBUILD!!!! YOU WILL ONLY UNDERSTAND THE LIES OF BODYBUILD WHEN U START EATING FISH RICE 10 TIMES A DAY AND USE HORMONES, U REALIZE UR NOTHING SPECIAL THEN U LOOK BIGGER BETTER CUPPED DELTS VEINS EVERYWHERE ONLY THEN U START TO UNDERSTAND THE BODYBUILD = ALL HORMONAS STRANGO EQUIPONA MASTERONA BODYBUILD IS ALL HORMONAS GET IT IN UR HEAD STOP THE BALONIE
flex wheeler says: I used SPORTS TECHNOLOGY DRUGS to ENHANCE my physique, yall just volkswagons, i'm a benz amg trololol
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nasser in 1997:
Much has been written about my “weak back” but all the top finishers at the last Olympia (1996) have weaknesses that are never written about in depth, and the bodybuilders themselves never discuss them. Why is my back the only weak body-part that is constantly being discussed? Because I am the only top pro who is prepared to say, “Yes, I am not perfect, I do have a weakness. There is still plenty of room for improving my physique.” Because of my honesty I have been the target of criticism, much of it exaggerated, about my back. Therefore, I feel justified in pointing out the weaknesses in others.
Dorian (Yates) never admits he has weak points. He never admits that his arms are weak, that his rear deltoids are poor or that his quads lack separation. Everybody asks me, “Have you improved your back?” Nobody asks Dorian, “Have you improved your arms?” When I am training, people will come by and ask, “How is your back coming along?” Do they ask Dorian how his arms are doing?
I think Dorian is an outstanding champion, but I honestly feel his back overpowers the rest of his physique. Is it wrong to suggest we call him – in the way Paul DeMayo was nicknamed Quadzilla because his quads overpowered the rest of his physique – Backzilla? Also, Dorian said he was 255LBS for the 1995 Olympia and that for the 96’ Olympia he had put on 2LBS. How is it possible to gain 2LBS more in size but look smaller at 257LBS than 255? When did he step on the scale – after breakfast, before going to the restroom?
Flex Wheeler, at first glance, seems to have a balanced physique.
People do talk about his “nice lines,” but he has them because some essential muscle mass is missing from his frame. For instance, when he does the abs – and – thighs pose, his lats disappear. Take away his arms and you are left with a juvenile body. I am 5’11” and compete at 285LBS; Flex is an inch shorter and competes – he says – at 224LBS, but I think he is about 10LBS lighter. He has a small waist for sure, but he also has a big butt and narrow shoulders, just like Shawn Ray. Check abs shots of both of these guys. I call Flex the Lord of Illusion.
Shawn Ray should apply for a job at Fed-EX, because he tells everyone he has the perfect package. But he is short, his calves are high, his shoulders are narrow and his back lacks width. He calls bodybuilders like me mass monsters, so I feel to call him a mini-monster. It is not my fault that Shawn doesn’t possess the physical capability to put on added size and still look proportionate, symmetrical, hard and ripped. Is he another victim of the misconception that someone over 250LBS can’t have a balanced physique, and is he betraying the naked fears that he belongs to yesterday and not tomorrow?
Kevin Levrone calls himself the “most genetically gifted bodybuilder,” but his chest, back and calves are in need of further development and have been for at least three years. And I’m not going to get into talking about his long torso or skinny neck.
I call Paul Dillet the “Great Plains” due to all the wide – open spaces his physique contains. From the side, he is flat, and his arms take up most of the space. He has large varicose veins on his chest that create an Illusion of having pec development. If these guys are upset by my comments, though! They weren’t too upset to criticize my physique.
I've read this before , like I said he was he didn't always say these type of things and after his retirement he really went off the deep end , poor Nasser that was in 96 and he's still melting down 15 years later :-\
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I've read this before , like I said he was he didn't always say these type of things and after his retirement he really went off the deep end , poor Nasser that was in 96 and he's still melting down 15 years later :-\
Nasser said that after the 97 Arnold, I remember it, plus Flex said he weighed 224 at the Arnold.
This sparked a lot of comments, coming from Wheeler, Ray, Dorian and others...
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Nasser said that after the 97 Arnold, I remember it, plus Flex said he weighed 224 at the Arnold.
This sparked a lot of comments, coming from Wheeler, Ray, Dorian and others...
True flex retorted that nassers arms were tiny
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Ronnie's awesome. He such a mellow, happy go lucky guy. (no homo)
:)
People with Down syndrome are always smiling as well....
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I like jayson,,,but I know personally jayson got heath in the bodybuilding business,,,he was introduced to the business side,,,showed him drugs to use,,,,etc,,,,you get idea it was a cake walk for heath just becuase he knew jayson,,,
remember this next time,,when jayson comes in,,,fcked up look at heath also,,,you will see the same hormones used between them if one is lacking,,,due to whatever,,,they willl both be the same the day of the olympia,,,I will be back stage talking to them,,,,
it's like there's a [gh15] all testosterona/equipona/ghona [/gh15] tag now.
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nasser in 1997:
Much has been written about my “weak back” but all the top finishers at the last Olympia (1996) have weaknesses that are never written about in depth, and the bodybuilders themselves never discuss them. Why is my back the only weak body-part that is constantly being discussed? Because I am the only top pro who is prepared to say, “Yes, I am not perfect, I do have a weakness. There is still plenty of room for improving my physique.” Because of my honesty I have been the target of criticism, much of it exaggerated, about my back. Therefore, I feel justified in pointing out the weaknesses in others.
Dorian (Yates) never admits he has weak points. He never admits that his arms are weak, that his rear deltoids are poor or that his quads lack separation. Everybody asks me, “Have you improved your back?” Nobody asks Dorian, “Have you improved your arms?” When I am training, people will come by and ask, “How is your back coming along?” Do they ask Dorian how his arms are doing?
I think Dorian is an outstanding champion, but I honestly feel his back overpowers the rest of his physique. Is it wrong to suggest we call him – in the way Paul DeMayo was nicknamed Quadzilla because his quads overpowered the rest of his physique – Backzilla? Also, Dorian said he was 255LBS for the 1995 Olympia and that for the 96’ Olympia he had put on 2LBS. How is it possible to gain 2LBS more in size but look smaller at 257LBS than 255? When did he step on the scale – after breakfast, before going to the restroom?
Flex Wheeler, at first glance, seems to have a balanced physique.
People do talk about his “nice lines,” but he has them because some essential muscle mass is missing from his frame. For instance, when he does the abs – and – thighs pose, his lats disappear. Take away his arms and you are left with a juvenile body. I am 5’11” and compete at 285LBS; Flex is an inch shorter and competes – he says – at 224LBS, but I think he is about 10LBS lighter. He has a small waist for sure, but he also has a big butt and narrow shoulders, just like Shawn Ray. Check abs shots of both of these guys. I call Flex the Lord of Illusion.
Shawn Ray should apply for a job at Fed-EX, because he tells everyone he has the perfect package. But he is short, his calves are high, his shoulders are narrow and his back lacks width. He calls bodybuilders like me mass monsters, so I feel to call him a mini-monster. It is not my fault that Shawn doesn’t possess the physical capability to put on added size and still look proportionate, symmetrical, hard and ripped. Is he another victim of the misconception that someone over 250LBS can’t have a balanced physique, and is he betraying the naked fears that he belongs to yesterday and not tomorrow?
Kevin Levrone calls himself the “most genetically gifted bodybuilder,” but his chest, back and calves are in need of further development and have been for at least three years. And I’m not going to get into talking about his long torso or skinny neck.
I call Paul Dillet the “Great Plains” due to all the wide – open spaces his physique contains. From the side, he is flat, and his arms take up most of the space. He has large varicose veins on his chest that create an Illusion of having pec development. If these guys are upset by my comments, though! They weren’t too upset to criticize my physique.
Whiny bitch Nasser....they were better...Bighead :D
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but I know personally jayson got heath in the bodybuilding business
no shit cutler says that all the time
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I totally agree flex was a lazy fucker in the gym....
I can't see him having the mindset to squat 600 or anything past 315
Lazy lazy lazy and hated training
He was doing tricep pressdowns and curls superset in one of his videos
And he told his brother and training partner to keep an eye on him or he would cheat reps and not finish
... Lazy lying piece of garbage
He made up lies about being attacked by ninjas ... For heaven sakes...
Flex great physique
Fucked up individual
Flex was told to stop squatting after the car accident...something about the bar being on his neck/shoulders...he seemingly liked to load up on the leg press, though...