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Title: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: newmom on August 23, 2011, 04:47:09 AM
Saw this on today show. Did she go to far or not.

Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 23, 2011, 05:07:36 AM
What was that over?  the mother said something about him pulling 3 cards and he made bad choices?  This was over a fucking game?  The mother is a fucking psycho if she is doing this over a game.

I do believe there needs to be some kind of consequences for wrong doing but it doesn't have to be psycho shit and you don't have to beat the crap out of them or torture them.  Especially at an early age, when they see you're upset with them, that's really all that's needed at that age.

Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: w8m8 on August 23, 2011, 05:07:36 AM
If that bitch was my neighbor I'd shove that bottle of hot sauce down her throat and stomp on it .. screaming in a child's face is beyond my comprehension .. I'd beat that piece of shit to within an inch of her life  >:(

That little boy is one of a set of twins they adopted from Russia .. the other twin has no issues ... she abuses him .. that is NOT discipline

The little boy has behavioural problems and needs medication and psychological treatment .. her husband is the Police Chief and he allows that shit to go on  >:(
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Princess L on August 23, 2011, 05:10:11 AM
Saw this on today show. Did she go to far or not.



Saw this on Dr Phil a few years ago Ans was horrified. It made me cry.  

The kid was adopted from an orphanage in Russia or something. . Dr Phil offered help and also did a follow up show. I think it turned out OK,  but the kid was severely traumatized from his experiencesin Russia. The mother was way out of line and he let her know it.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: w8m8 on August 23, 2011, 05:14:00 AM
What was that over?  the mother said something about him pulling 3 cards and he made bad choices?  This was over a fucking game?  The mother is a fucking psycho if she is doing this over a game.

I do believe there needs to be some kind of consequences for wrong doing but it doesn't have to be psycho shit and you don't have to beat the crap out of them or torture them.  Especially at an early age, when they see you're upset with them, that's really all that's needed at that age.



the school gives out cards for kids who have gotten in trouble like a write up .. supposedly this boy was playing sword fight with another kid using pencils ( 1 card )  didn't do some of his classwork ( 1 card ) and he spoke back to the teacher when she told him to get back in his seat when he was over next to the class pet ( a hamster ) ( 1 card )

They didn't say how many cards he was allowed to accumulate and if a certain amount would lead to a suspension .. he's only 8 so I don't know if they even suspend kids from grade school there
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 23, 2011, 05:19:49 AM
the school gives out cards for kids who have gotten in trouble like a write up .. supposedly this boy was playing sword fight with another kid using pencils ( 1 card )  didn't do some of his classwork ( 1 card ) and he spoke back to the teacher when she told him to get back in his seat when he was over next to the class pet ( a hamster ) ( 1 card )

They didn't say how many cards he was allowed to accumulate and if a certain amount would lead to a suspension .. he's only 8 so I don't know if they even suspend kids from grade school there
her approach in dealing with this is abusive semi-torture imo.  Way way wrong.  This is an idication to me that there is zero love between the mother and child.  She needs to work on the love a little more.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: w8m8 on August 23, 2011, 05:23:23 AM
her approach in dealing with this is abusive semi-torture imo.  Way way wrong.  This is an idication to me that there is zero love between the mother and child.  She needs to work on the love a little more.

semi torture is pretty accurate .. FFS .. throwing him into a freezing cold shower AFTER the hot sauce ritual is beyond abuse .. they live in Alaska .. can you imagine how cold the water gets ? .. and she had her 10 yr old birth daughter filming the fucking show .. so God knows what the other kids live with .. her worthless ball-less husband doesn't step up to stop any of it  >:(

I wanna stomp on her throat  >:(
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 23, 2011, 06:27:27 AM
Im not excusing her actions but if anyone filmed some of the discipline I got from my old man, hell, he would have gone to prison in this day and age. It sure was a different itme back then, remember? Kids got the beats with thin branches, with a leather belt, paddles, slapped in the face, ears pulled, soap in the mouth, forced to eat their food till they puked, forced to smoke if caught, kneeling in the corner for a long time, made to walk back all the way home alone, dunce caps on the head and the list goes on. Seems like the parental discipline the older generation recieved raised a group that was a lot tougher and more respectfull then todays spoiled, soft ass kids.  
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: garebear on August 23, 2011, 06:30:15 AM
The woman adopted kids so she could treat them like that?

She should be in prison for treating a child that way.

Completely unnecessary.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: newmom on August 23, 2011, 06:48:59 AM
Im not excusing her actions but if anyone filmed some of the discipline I got from my old man, hell, he would have gone to prison in this day and age. It sure was a different itme back then, remember? Kids got the beats with thin branches, with a leather belt, paddles, slapped in the face, ears pulled, soap in the mouth, forced to eat their food till they puked, forced to smoke if caught, kneeling in the corner for a long time, made to walk back all the way home alone, dunce caps on the head and the list goes on. Seems like the parental discipline the older generation recieved raised a group that was a lot tougher and more respectfull then todays spoiled, soft ass kids.  

^ this

I think she was correct in looking him eye to eye and not looking down at him...HOWEVER her deliverance was completely off the charts. You can raise your voice, sure but to scream like that..YIKES.

If you hold your foot down when you follow through with consequences, i.e. no tv, no toys as far as discipline, trust me they get it. If you cave in, they will believe there is no consequences.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Butterbean on August 23, 2011, 11:59:46 AM
Im not excusing her actions but if anyone filmed some of the discipline I got from my old man, mother, hell, she would have gone to prison in this day and age. It sure was a different itme back then, remember? Kids got the beats with thin branches, with a leather belt, paddles, slapped in the face, ears pulled, soap in the mouth, forced to eat their food till they puked, forced to smoke if caught, kneeling in the corner for a long time, made to walk back all the way home alone, dunce caps on the head and the list goes on.

x2


The forcing to eat food till they puked I've never heard of before.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: John O on August 23, 2011, 05:01:50 PM
She was found guilty today.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Migs on August 23, 2011, 05:34:38 PM
i like the hot sauce idea.  Pain is a good teacher.  kids and their pc parents are way to soft and for lack of a better word "faggoty" with the discipline or punishment
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 23, 2011, 11:55:30 PM
x2


The forcing to eat food till they puked I've never heard of before.

Oh yeah, there was some food I hated to eat but my dad wouldn't hear of me not finishing my meal, considering he worked his ass off to provide the food. I had to eat unti it was either finished or I puked.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 23, 2011, 11:58:03 PM
If that bitch was my neighbor I'd shove that bottle of hot sauce down her throat and stomp on it .. screaming in a child's face is beyond my comprehension .. I'd beat that piece of shit to within an inch of her life  >:(

That little boy is one of a set of twins they adopted from Russia .. the other twin has no issues ... she abuses him .. that is NOT discipline

The little boy has behavioural problems and needs medication and psychological treatment .. her husband is the Police Chief and he allows that shit to go on  >:(

Yup the answer is always more Ritalin.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Butterbean on August 24, 2011, 07:39:31 AM
Oh yeah, there was some food I hated to eat but my dad wouldn't hear of me not finishing my meal, considering he worked his ass off to provide the food. I had to eat unti it was either finished or I puked.

Bizarre.

May I ask what kind of relationship you have w/him today (if he is still living)?
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: w8m8 on August 24, 2011, 07:46:44 AM
Yup the answer is always more Ritalin.

dude .. the brain can be born to misfire .. and the psyche of a child can be damaged .. we have psychiatrists and medications that can help children overcome issues they CANNOT control .. it's not inconceivable that this child was damaged either in utero or through the experiences he lived with after being born ... either way .. seeking out a viable option to help him is not the same as what you are inferring
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: OTHstrong on August 24, 2011, 02:12:19 PM
i like the hot sauce idea.  Pain is a good teacher.  kids and their pc parents are way to soft and for lack of a better word "faggoty" with the discipline or punishment
hot sauce can kill the child, stupid idea. Decpline is one thing, but this lady is displaying "how dare you" ego tendancies combined with a lack of empathy and love for the child, should be charged with child abuse.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 24, 2011, 03:43:42 PM
Bizarre.

May I ask what kind of relationship you have w/him today (if he is still living)?

I have what I guess is a normal relationship. Don't talk as much as we'd both like to but that has nothing to do with the past, just too busy with other shit. Its not like this was an everyday thing and now that I'm older I understand we all do stupid shit we regret later in life. I didn't suffer some permanant damage over it. whatever.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Butterbean on August 24, 2011, 03:49:12 PM
I have what I guess is a normal relationship. Don't talk as much as we'd both like to but that has nothing to do with the past, just too busy with other shit. Its not like this was an everyday thing and now that I'm older I understand we all do stupid shit we regret later in life. I didn't suffer some permanant damage over it. whatever.
Good to hear.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Migs on August 24, 2011, 05:24:07 PM
hot sauce can kill the child, stupid idea.


how?
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on August 24, 2011, 05:48:16 PM
WTF?  I would fuck that stupid girl with a baseball bat up her ass!  You don't treat a fucking kid like that.  I don't care what he did.  Fucking crazy pyscho ass people raising kids nowadays.  Pouring hot sauce in his mouth?  WTF?  How about if I take some fucking homemade soap and shove up your fucking vagina you stupid bitch and then you'll feel the fucking burn!  Ughhhhh I would stomp that bitch into an inh of her life like another poster said. 
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: trapz101 on August 24, 2011, 10:20:29 PM
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Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Parker on August 25, 2011, 02:35:29 AM
Im not excusing her actions but if anyone filmed some of the discipline I got from my old man, hell, he would have gone to prison in this day and age. It sure was a different itme back then, remember? Kids got the beats with thin branches, with a leather belt, paddles, slapped in the face, ears pulled, soap in the mouth, forced to eat their food till they puked, forced to smoke if caught, kneeling in the corner for a long time, made to walk back all the way home alone, dunce caps on the head and the list goes on. Seems like the parental discipline the older generation recieved raised a group that was a lot tougher and more respectfull then todays spoiled, soft ass kids.  
Exactly, i got lit up with a peach switch from the peach trees in the backyard, or my dad's belt

Some chick on the view was saying that, it causes the child to fear the parent  ::)

---which is GOOD, parents aren't your friends when you are that age, They are to offer guidance, love, and discipline, and that hot sauce, is soft---it's akin to eating hot food. Fearing what your parent will do to you if you act up is good...it forces you to be more respectful
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: w8m8 on August 25, 2011, 02:39:39 AM
 ::)

yes .. oh my .. yes of course

the same way people should train their pets

beat them and cause pain to make them submit to your power  >:(

FFS
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on August 25, 2011, 03:39:19 AM
Exactly, i got lit up with a peach switch from the peach trees in the backyard, or my dad's belt

Some chick on the view was saying that, it causes the child to fear the parent  ::)

---which is GOOD, parents aren't your friends when you are that age, They are to offer guidance, love, and discipline, and that hot sauce, is soft---it's akin to eating hot food. Fearing what your parent will do to you if you act up is good...it forces you to be more respectful

x 2

These generation Y fvck ups are the product of pc parenting.

Bring back the good old days.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 25, 2011, 04:02:49 AM
::)
yes .. oh my .. yes of course
the same way people should train their pets
beat them and cause pain to make them submit to your power  >:(
FFS
Like Bindare I also grew up with pretty harsh punishment.  

The real reason for any kind of punishment boils down to preparing kids for the real world where there are real and often harsh punishments for doing wrong which in a way I think is good because the world can be cruel and harsh asap lol...

BUT, A good parent has to be able to weigh the right punishment for the right age or progression of the child.  If your child is in absolute fear of you--if you scare the fucking hell out of your kid, you've gone over the line in what you thought was discipline.  If you are making the child hate you or fear you, you've gone to far.  You absolutely have to keep love at the front of everything.  When they love you, your disapproval alone is all the punishment needed.

IMO this mother looks to be going overkill in a bad way.  She needs to spend more time with the child, less psycho, "I'll burn your face off if you do what I don't like..."
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on August 25, 2011, 02:41:45 PM
Hahaha just because that's how previous generations did it doesn't make it healthy or right.  If you think that then you're a fucking retard.  Things have changed a lot.....some good some bad.  One of the reasons our country is so fucked up economically is because of the bullshit of previous generations.  I love how the WWII generation is always praised for how great the were.  Fucking bullshit.  That generation was responsible for A LOT of the economic problems we have now. 

Anyone that thinks whipping their kid with a belt is ok are fucking delusional morons.  That is child abuse at any age.  Most kids are hit because adults are stupid and lazy parents.  Parenting is hard and takes a lot of patience and it doesn't start when your kid misbehaves.  It starts right when they pop out of the vagina.  We are just no starting to realize how important that first year before they can walk and talk really are.  Hell idiot mothers used to smoke all the time while pregnant and while their kids were young.  So that's who the generation before did it must be ok right? 

Granted kids are out of control spoiled wussies nowadays......but it's hardly because they aren't hit with belts and or don't have soap crammed down their mouths.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: JasonH on August 25, 2011, 04:48:01 PM
Saw this on today show. Did she go to far or not.



Holy crap that woman is bang out of order.  :o

 >:(
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Parker on August 25, 2011, 10:33:06 PM
::)

yes .. oh my .. yes of course

the same way people should train their pets

beat them and cause pain to make them submit to your power   >:(

FFS
Kids ARE NOT to be treated as equals to adults. You are NOT your kids friend, play pal, etc. Of course you may play with them, but you always maintain that Authority or as you call it POWER...

One time when I was young and I had a rubix cube, and my mother would scramble it up and give it back to me to fix...I thought of her as a "playpal" and I playfully bit my mother on the hand...I giggled...she looked at me, took my knuckle and bit down on it, with the same force I did and told me to never bite your mother, or an adult...and it hurt. I never bit my mother again or an adult again...for that matter anyone.

Kids get this notion that when you play with them that you are one of them. Kids have their own world where they view grown ups as BIG people who do Big people things, whereas kids are in their little realm...once you enter their realm, they view you as equals. But when they try to enter Big People's realm, they are seen as not fitting or outsiders or laughed at--because they don't belong.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 25, 2011, 10:38:49 PM
Hahaha just because that's how previous generations did it doesn't make it healthy or right.  If you think that then you're a fucking retard.  Things have changed a lot.....some good some bad.  One of the reasons our country is so fucked up economically is because of the bullshit of previous generations.  I love how the WWII generation is always praised for how great the were.  Fucking bullshit.  That generation was responsible for A LOT of the economic problems we have now. 

Anyone that thinks whipping their kid with a belt is ok are fucking delusional morons.  That is child abuse at any age.  Most kids are hit because adults are stupid and lazy parents.  Parenting is hard and takes a lot of patience and it doesn't start when your kid misbehaves.  It starts right when they pop out of the vagina.  We are just no starting to realize how important that first year before they can walk and talk really are.  Hell idiot mothers used to smoke all the time while pregnant and while their kids were young.  So that's who the generation before did it must be ok right? 

Granted kids are out of control spoiled wussies nowadays......but it's hardly because they aren't hit with belts and or don't have soap crammed down their mouths.

I bet if your parents gave you a smack upside the head and some soap in the mouth once in a while you wouldn't respond in such a profanity laced tirade.  Your parents must have been to lazy to give you a good beating and now look at you. :P.
Title: Re: Is this mom going to far?
Post by: Natural Man on August 26, 2011, 08:40:07 AM
x 2

These generation Y fvck ups are the product of pc parenting.

Bring back the good old days.
What, who, do you think taught "good old days parents" to act the good way?

And what (and who) is missing in nowadays parents and kids life?

Answer these questions.


It's perfectly mathematical.
Title: Re: Is this mom going too far?
Post by: newmom on August 26, 2011, 09:16:13 AM
Kids ARE NOT to be treated as equals to adults. You are NOT your kids friend, play pal, etc. Of course you may play with them, but you always maintain that Authority or as you call it POWER...

One time when I was young and I had a rubix cube, and my mother would scramble it up and give it back to me to fix...I thought of her as a "playpal" and I playfully bit my mother on the hand...I giggled...she looked at me, took my knuckle and bit down on it, with the same force I did and told me to never bite your mother, or an adult...and it hurt. I never bit my mother again or an adult again...for that matter anyone.

Kids get this notion that when you play with them that you are one of them. Kids have their own world where they view grown ups as BIG people who do Big people things, whereas kids are in their little realm...once you enter their realm, they view you as equals. But when they try to enter Big People's realm, they are seen as not fitting or outsiders or laughed at--because they don't belong.


I get what you're saying Gangsta, but I'm very strict but I do play with nugget. We do slip n slide, color, and other stuff. We run around at the park, that doesn't make me her friend, just a mom. Now, mind you when it's time to discipline, she gets the difference
Title: Re: Is this mom going too far?
Post by: Parker on August 26, 2011, 12:18:54 PM
I get what you're saying Gangsta, but I'm very strict but I do play with nugget. We do slip n slide, color, and other stuff. We run around at the park, that doesn't make me her friend, just a mom. Now, mind you when it's time to discipline, she gets the difference
Yeah that's what i meant...My parents did the same...and then let you know that "Play time is over"