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rest in peace
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rest in peace
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every animal is better than humans my friend - humans are generally disgusting creatures.
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thats why i like them more than humans,,
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I thought this thread was going to be about muslims.
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RIP. Wow. touching.
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amazing.
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As much as I agree with the thread title I hope that looped 2 second clip unedited wasnt the dog walking up, licking his nuts in front of the casket then walking off.
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every animal is better than humans my friend - humans are generally disgusting creatures.
If animals were as smart as humans, they'd be equally as disgusting.
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The dog lead the family up the aisle and when the family sat down the dog went up and laid down in front of his master/friend/family's casket.
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Is this looped?
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Fuck, that's moving :'(
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Wow, that's beautiful. Had a smile on my face all the way through.
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Is this looped?
You can read the story on MSN.
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If animals were as smart as humans, they'd be equally as disgusting.
its not intelligence that makes someone generally evil, its the nature. But I see your point and that is a tough question.
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its not intelligence that makes someone generally evil, its the nature. But I see your point and that is a tough question.
Man thru his intelligence trys to exploit anything and everything for his own good, and justifies it--thru intelligence...it is only when man balances mind, body and soul, does he think about the outcome and the ramifications of his actions.
If animals were just as smart as humans and kept their beastly natures, they'd be worse than man---possibly wiping them out. Who'd dogs side with Man or Wolf, one created him, one was the progenitor. But he is more like the wolf than he is man. He could fake being loyal, and kill the family at night. Who'd the housecat side with?
What if a chimp was as smart as a reg human, given it's strength, and let's not start on Gorillas...
What about cattle, and how we slaughter millions for food? If they were as smart as man, would they exact revenge...
See the comic book Fables for a glimpse into what would happen when the animals of our Fables are just as smart as humans.
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so true and so sad though
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Man thru his intelligence trys to exploit anything and everything for his own good, and justifies it--thru intelligence...it is only when man balances mind, body and soul, does he think about the outcome and the ramifications of his actions.
If animals were just as smart as humans and kept their beastly natures, they'd be worse than man---possibly wiping them out. Who'd dogs side with Man or Wolf, one created him, one was the progenitor. But he is more like the wolf than he is man. He could fake being loyal, and kill the family at night. Who'd the housecat side with?
What if a chimp was as smart as a reg human, given it's strength, and let's not start on Gorillas...
What about cattle, and how we slaughter millions for food? If they were as smart as man, would they exact revenge...
See the comic book Fables for a glimpse into what would happen when the animals of our Fables are just as smart as humans.
I don't agree with everything here, but good post nonetheless.
One thing I find quite ironic is the concept of a last meal for a condemned prisoner. Supposed to be somber and very serious.
In a lot of cases he will order a steak, which means that a cow will have to have its throat slit and hung upside down to bleed to death and die horribly. No one ever thinks of that cow, however, who did absolutely nothing "wrong".
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I'd kill every dog in the world with spork to save one miserable human life then i'd kill the human for making me kill the dogs lol
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I don't agree with everything here, but good post nonetheless.
One thing I find quite ironic is the concept of a last meal for a condemned prisoner. Supposed to be somber and very serious.
In a lot of cases he will order a steak, which means that a cow will have to have its throat slit and hung upside down to bleed to death and die horribly. No one ever thinks of that cow, however, who did absolutely nothing "wrong".
vegeatbles and fruitrs were not asked to be grown in this world,,,,you need to understand that,,before you talka bout killing a cow,,,you know everytime you pick a fruit you KILL IT,,,then you put it in your moutch,,,
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every animal is better than humans my friend - humans are generally disgusting creatures.
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every animal is better than humans my friend - humans are generally disgusting creatures.
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I don't agree with everything here, but good post nonetheless.
One thing I find quite ironic is the concept of a last meal for a condemned prisoner. Supposed to be somber and very serious.
In a lot of cases he will order a steak, which means that a cow will have to have its throat slit and hung upside down to bleed to death and die horribly. No one ever thinks of that cow, however, who did absolutely nothing "wrong".
In the award winning comicbook "Fables", the animal characters of our favorite fables resided away from the human characters---animals were on a farm...they resided unchecked by the rest of Fableland...
And they were just as smart as Humans, and they were planning a revolt...helped by Goldilocks who was sleeping with Baby Bear...they were planning a revolution and shot Snow White.
They tackled the ethics of having smart "animals".
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rest in peace
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I saw that on yahoo but it is worth posting here.
Really touching scene , dogs rule . Good post GH15.
We may not agree on natural BB limits but we both agree on this scene as awesome.
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Dog just wants to be fed...morons. He ll find someone else to feed him and will be as happy as he was with his previous master. He ll just replace past pattenrs with new ones automatically because it's what his brain is designed for; survival, reproduction.
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every animal is better than humans my friend - humans are generally disgusting creatures.
Animals and humans are...animals... no difference. Intelligence in man is just an extension, an evolution of bestiality. make no mistake. Animals fight, kill each others for domination, too. They ve been conceived to survive at all costs, just like us. Dogs were savage wolves in the past, we shaped /conditionned them the way we wanted them over centuries it's called artificial selection. They stayed with men because men increased their odds of survival by feeding them with more food they could get in a natural environment. Dogs, dinosaurs, birds, monkeys, gorillas, fishes... we all come from the same cells in the first place and we all work the same fundamentally; we re here to adapt by cooperation, dominating, or submiting temporary and every animal existence is about switching from all these strategies of survival when it is the most adequate. Vegetal life, animal life... Everything that is alive only fights for its survival. Different species are just different evolutions of the same base patterns.
The question now is, is there a justice in all of this, is there an equilibrium, has it been created, WHY? where / when did it start...did it start, does it have an end? That the one million dollar questions. Look. We as humans create and condition other humans, arent we gods, somehow, with just more limited powers than the potential one who might have created it ALL ? Why, if He exists, did he give us this opportunity? Why is hapiness the result of evolution in men? The principles of Causes and consequences are proven scientifically in our lifetime. What is the consequence of a good life, what is the consequence of a bad life? Why do we have the choice to do good or bad as humans? Are "animals" who arent from the human specie, conscious? do they feel good, bad? Are they "fair"?
Also, some food for thoughts;
Did God create our brain, or does our brain creates God? In the second case, it would mean evolution created, developed, our brain... and our brain as a result developed religion... it means religion is a psychological/psychic, creation of... evolution in itself. The point of religion is to unite people who follow the same rules, increase their chances of survival as a specie, and theyfight to survive against people who follow others rules, principles, who have others gods. Buddhism, and most oriental religions, philosophies are replaced, islam is growing, and christiannism is disapearing especially in eurasia, but still strong in north america.... Lots of people in the whole world who still believe in chirstiannism, and follow the principles everyday, whatever they skin color. Some even replaced their past religions with this new one considering it superior. So who s the real god, the right god? Is muhamad the antechrist? Have we been created by aliens? Are we the aliens? Is there a meaning, or is there no meaning, with everything that it involves of depressing and ultimately dreadful. Is all of what we see, hear, think, touch...FAKE? is it just an invention of our brain, the chemicals in our brain? Are we pupets, characters of a movie ?
Also nobody can tell if god exists...or not. Science cannot. And most important scientifics come from religious families in the first place.
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animals and humans are...animals... no difference. Intelligence in man is just an extension, and evolution of bestiality. make no mistake.
Also, some food for thoughts;
Did God create our brain, or does our brain creates God?
That's a great reflection ;)
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every animal is better than humans my friend - humans are generally disgusting creatures.
Many, many humans have mourned the passing of other humans. Not every human is scum like we all tend to believe.
Dogs are unconditional loyal yes, because they can't think past 30 seconds and don't remember much either. I love dogs but they are animals just like the rest of us.
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animals kill for food only, not for joy, not for revenge, not for power...their nature is caring...can we say the same ? no.
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Pretty touching video. My chocolate lab passed 6 years ago but anytime my back was killing me he would sense my pain and lay his head on me and just watch me. Damn I miss him. :'(
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animals kill for food only, not for joy, not for revenge, not for power...their nature is caring...can we say the same ? no.
Chimpanzees kill each other for power.
In fact, their biggest threat is themselves, much like man. It's not predators that are their biggest concern.
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I've always preferred dogs to human beings. Can't see that changing.
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I've always preferred dogs to human beings. Can't see that changing.
WYHT ?
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Thanks, GH!
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WYHT ?
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A mushroom?
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animals kill for food only, not for joy, not for revenge, not for power...their nature is caring...can we say the same ? no.
huh... "joy, revenge, power" are strategies of survival... just like everything that exists. Products of intelligence which itself is a product of brain, which is a product of evolution...
Male lions kill the infants of a submited female after they kill/dominate the previous alpha male of the group... They then impregnate the females so they can spawn THEIR offsprings... you re ignorant, talking out of your ass...
some are solitary, others live in small groups, and still others live
in large groups. But social behavior has consequences for survival and
reproduction. Depending, for example, on whether a species' food supply
is clumped or spread out, and on whether a species faces high risk of
attack by predators, either solitary living or group living may be better
for promoting survival and reproduction.
Similar considerations apply to sexuality. Some sexual characteristics
may be more advantageous for survival and reproduction than others,
depending on each species' food supply, exposure to predators, and other
biological characteristics. At this point I shall mention just one
example, a behavior that at first seems diametrically opposed to
evolutionary logic: sexual cannibalism. The male of some species of
spiders and mantises is routinely eaten by his mate just after or even
while he is copulating with her. This cannibalism clearly involves the
male's consent, because the male of these species approaches the female,
makes no attempt to escape, and may even bend his head and thorax toward
the female's mouth so that she may munch her way through most of his
body while his abdomen remains to complete the job of injecting sperm
into her.
If one thinks of natural selection as the maximization of survival,
such cannibalistic suicide makes no sense. Actually, natural selection
maximizes the transmission of genes, and survival is in most cases just
one strategy that provides repeated opportunities to transmit genes.
Suppose that opportunities to transmit genes arise unpre-dictably and
infrequently, and that the number of offspring
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produced by such opportunities increases with the female's nutritional
condition. That's the case for some species of spiders and mantises
living at low population densities. A male is lucky to encounter a female
at all, and such luck is unlikely to strike twice. The male's best
strategy is to produce as many offspring bearing his genes as possible
out of his lucky find. The larger a female's nutritional reserves, the
more calories and protein she has available to transform into eggs.
If the male departed after mating, he would probably not find another
female and his continued survival would thus be useless. Instead, by
encouraging the female to eat him, he enables her to produce more eggs
bearing his genes. In addition, a female spider whose mouth is distracted
by munching a male's body allows copulation with the male's genitalia
to proceed for a longer time, resulting in more sperm transferred and
more eggs fertilized. The male spider's evolutionary logic is
impeccable and seems bizarre to us only because other aspects of human
biology make sexual cannibalism disadvantageous. Most men have more
than one lifetime opportunity to copulate; even well-nourished women
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I have to fully agree with GH on this one!
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huh... "joy, revenge, power" are strategies of survival... just like everything that exists. Products of intelligence which itself is a product of brain, which is a product of evolution...
Male lions kill the infants of a submited female after they kill/dominate the previous alpha male of the group... They then impregnate the females so they can spawn THEIR offsprings... you re ignorant, talking out of your ass...
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How to account for suicide?
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rest in peace
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My friends have this posted all over facebook. Very sad and touching. I'm sure the soldier would have liked it no other way.
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Pretty touching video. My chocolate lab passed 6 years ago but anytime my back was killing me he would sense my pain and lay his head on me and just watch me. Damn I miss him. :'(
A woman could have rubbed the pain away...just saying
;D
Country dogs, when they are about to die, stop by everybody that they know as way of saying "goodbye", and then just leave, and die somewhere private.
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How to account for suicide?
dang you beat me to it! :D
was just going to ask uberman about this.
nietzsche said the desire for power was the ultimate motivating force for man, not survival. i'm inclined to agree.
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The point of religion is to unite people who follow the same rules, increase their chances of survival as a specie, and theyfight to survive against people who follow others rules, principles, who have others gods.
Very good!
Most people seem to think religion is a tool for the powerful to exploit the weak. While of course this happens to some degree, the main use is exactly the opposite: weak people banding together and forcing the strong (who are fewer in number) to submit to their lifestyle.
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Dog just wants to be fed...morons. He ll find someone else to feed him and will be as happy as he was with his previous master. He ll just replace past pattenrs with new ones automatically because it's what his brain is designed for; survival, reproduction.
the only time you will see me going truly nuts is if i see dog being abused and hurt ,, i have learned in life through the years from very young age that the only one friend who you can count on asidde from close family ...is those angels ,, i consider dogs angels ,,
a dog will NEVER betray you ,, a dog will love you unconditionaly ,, everything i do in my life has my dog in it in mind,, and when they pass away they always keep me safe no matter where i am ,, i had proofs for that along the years but it is very private things,,
i treat a dog like i treat myself,, exactly the same way ,, i give him or her chiken ,, lean burgers,, puperonies,, good foods,, i also make sure i rub it into their food with my own hands every single day into the science diet i put the chiken and make it all together so its not boring ,, we go out for long walk 30 minutes 20-30 minutes not 5 min ,,parks ,, beach,, i sleep to my dog back to back sometimes,, or he is under blanket,, he see me having sex on my my bed,, he is on the bed during it at times,, he watch movies with me ,, he does everything ,, he got maybe close to 10 k worth of puperonies and toys along the years,,we even have our own language ,, the only way you can get through to my heart is my dog
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the only time you will see me going truly nuts is if i see dog being abused and hurt ,, i have learned in life through the years from very young age that the only one friend who you can count on asidde from close family ...is those angels ,, i consider dogs angels ,,
a dog will NEVER betray you ,, a dog will love you unconditionaly ,, everything i do in my life has my dog in it in mind,, and when they pass away they always keep me safe no matter where i am ,, i had proofs for that along the years but it is very private things,,
i treat a dog like i treat myself,, exactly the same way ,, i give him or her chiken ,, lean burgers,, puperonies,, good foods,, i also make sure i rub it into their food with my own hands every single day into the science diet i put the chiken and make it all together so its not boring ,, we go out for long walk 30 minutes 20-30 minutes not 5 min ,,parks ,, beach,, i sleep to my dog back to back sometimes,, or he is under blanket,, he see me having sex on my my bed,, he is on the bed during it at times,, he watch movies with me ,, he does everything ,, he got maybe close to 10 k worth of puperonies and toys along the years,,we even have our own language ,, the only way you can get through to my heart is my dog
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This^^^^
Doug_Steele approved.
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the only time you will see me going truly nuts is if i see dog being abused and hurt ,, i have learned in life through the years from very young age that the only one friend who you can count on asidde from close family ...is those angels ,, i consider dogs angels ,,
a dog will NEVER betray you ,, a dog will love you unconditionaly ,, everything i do in my life has my dog in it in mind,, and when they pass away they always keep me safe no matter where i am ,, i had proofs for that along the years but it is very private things,,
i treat a dog like i treat myself,, exactly the same way ,, i give him or her chiken ,, lean burgers,, puperonies,, good foods,, i also make sure i rub it into their food with my own hands every single day into the science diet i put the chiken and make it all together so its not boring ,, we go out for long walk 30 minutes 20-30 minutes not 5 min ,,parks ,, beach,, i sleep to my dog back to back sometimes,, or he is under blanket,, he see me having sex on my my bed,, he is on the bed during it at times,, he watch movies with me ,, he does everything ,, he got maybe close to 10 k worth of puperonies and toys along the years,,we even have our own language ,, the only way you can get through to my heart is my dog
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haha thats awesome, miss my dog now :( ..got this picture at school with me though ..dogs are the shit truly amazing animal and friend.
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the only time you will see me going truly nuts is if i see dog being abused and hurt ,, i have learned in life through the years from very young age that the only one friend who you can count on asidde from close family ...is those angels ,, i consider dogs angels ,,
a dog will NEVER betray you ,, a dog will love you unconditionaly ,, everything i do in my life has my dog in it in mind,, and when they pass away they always keep me safe no matter where i am ,, i had proofs for that along the years but it is very private things,,
i treat a dog like i treat myself,, exactly the same way ,, i give him or her chiken ,, lean burgers,, puperonies,, good foods,, i also make sure i rub it into their food with my own hands every single day into the science diet i put the chiken and make it all together so its not boring ,, we go out for long walk 30 minutes 20-30 minutes not 5 min ,,parks ,, beach,, i sleep to my dog back to back sometimes,, or he is under blanket,, he see me having sex on my my bed,, he is on the bed during it at times,, he watch movies with me ,, he does everything ,, he got maybe close to 10 k worth of puperonies and toys along the years,,we even have our own language ,, the only way you can get through to my heart is my dog
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Nice to see the softer side of gh15
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Dog just wants to be fed...morons. He ll find someone else to feed him and will be as happy as he was with his previous master. He ll just replace past pattenrs with new ones automatically because it's what his brain is designed for; survival, reproduction.
If you think that a dog forgets about people in it's past just because it receives care from a new owner then you are wrong. My dog still perks up his ears and wags his tail in excitement as he anticipates seeing his past owner and all I have to do is mention her name (and not in some exagerated tone and this is after not seeing her for ten years) because he had so many good experiences with her. Dogs don't suffer amnesia after the next bowl of food.
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because they can't think past 30 seconds and don't remember much either.
The experiences with my dog tell me different.
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animals kill for food only, not for joy, not for revenge, not for power...their nature is caring...can we say the same ? no.
Wrong. Lions will kill the cubs that are not his. He will not eat it. Just eliminating future competition for his cubs. Just a month ago a miniature pony that use to run loose a quarter mile from where I live was attacked and killed by a pack of dogs. The did not eat it. When I was a kid I caught a parakeet, named Poppy, in my mango tree. It was a male and so I bought a female parakeet at the pet store. Quite couple. My brother then bought another male parakeet and we kept them all in the same cage. When I went to check on the birds the next morning I found Poppy pecked to death.
There are so many examples of animals killing for reasons other than food. How many humans get mauled to death by cougars and bears over the course of a year and are not eaten?
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You can read the story on MSN.
or on the pet board
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=392826.msg5535660#msg5535660
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Animals and humans are...animals... no difference. Intelligence in man is just an extension, an evolution of bestiality. make no mistake. Animals fight, kill each others for domination, too. They ve been conceived to survive at all costs, just like us. Dogs were savage wolves in the past, we shaped /conditionned them the way we wanted them over centuries it's called artificial selection. They stayed with men because men increased their odds of survival by feeding them with more food they could get in a natural environment. Dogs, dinosaurs, birds, monkeys, gorillas, fishes... we all come from the same cells in the first place and we all work the same fundamentally; we re here to adapt by cooperation, dominating, or submiting temporary and every animal existence is about switching from all these strategies of survival when it is the most adequate. Vegetal life, animal life... Everything that is alive only fights for its survival. Different species are just different evolutions of the same base patterns.
The question now is, is there a justice in all of this, is there an equilibrium, has it been created, WHY? where / when did it start...did it start, does it have an end? That the one million dollar questions. Look. We as humans create and condition other humans, arent we gods, somehow, with just more limited powers than the potential one who might have created it ALL ? Why, if He exists, did he give us this opportunity? Why is hapiness the result of evolution in men? The principles of Causes and consequences are proven scientifically in our lifetime. What is the consequence of a good life, what is the consequence of a bad life? Why do we have the choice to do good or bad as humans? Are "animals" who arent from the human specie, conscious? do they feel good, bad? Are they "fair"?
Also, some food for thoughts;
Did God create our brain, or does our brain creates God? In the second case, it would mean evolution created, developed, our brain... and our brain as a result developed religion... it means religion is a psychological/psychic, creation of... evolution in itself. The point of religion is to unite people who follow the same rules, increase their chances of survival as a specie, and theyfight to survive against people who follow others rules, principles, who have others gods. Buddhism, and most oriental religions, philosophies are replaced, islam is growing, and christiannism is disapearing especially in eurasia, but still strong in north america.... Lots of people in the whole world who still believe in chirstiannism, and follow the principles everyday, whatever they skin color. Some even replaced their past religions with this new one considering it superior. So who s the real god, the right god? Is muhamad the antechrist? Have we been created by aliens? Are we the aliens? Is there a meaning, or is there no meaning, with everything that it involves of depressing and ultimately dreadful. Is all of what we see, hear, think, touch...FAKE? is it just an invention of our brain, the chemicals in our brain? Are we pupets, characters of a movie ?
Also nobody can tell if god exists...or not. Science cannot. And most important scientifics come from religious families in the first place.
There's a huge difference between animals and man. Animals lack a moral sense. They have no concept of right or wrong. Doing good or bad. If a Zebra in a pack can't keep up due to age or injury they are abandon and left for the lions. And the lions will tear that zebra apart without any regard to minimizing suffering. They afford no special care or protection for the old, infirmed and injured. They have no capacity or desire to prevent, treat or cure disease and injury.
And I know you didn't say this but humans are disgusting? Animals have no concept of modesty and manners. They'll shit and fuck right in front of you, your wife and your seven year old daughter. Lick their balls and stick their nose in another dog's ass. I found my dog eating a dead fish full of maggots and when he looked up at me there were maggots all over his snout.
There is a sort of ying and yang in life. It almost seems that someone or somethings capacity to do good is inversely proportion to it's ability to do harm or evil. A sharp blade can cut your throat or perform open heart surgery. No species on earth has the capacity to do as much evil and harm as a human being can. No species on earth has the capacity to do as much good as a human can. Let's see a dog build a hospital or come up with the polio vaccine.
Having said that, I absolutely love dogs. No bond exists between a man and an animal as between a man and a dog. That's why we romanticize them. And tend to romanticize nature. Nature is neither good or bad but immoral. The Hurricane Irene now in NC doesn't care whether you are a good person or bad. If mother needs you to take care of her. Get in it's way in the wrong way and your dead. I saw a middle aged woman somewhere in Africa making her daily trek to the river to get some water. Then out of nowhere a filthy crocodile snatched her. That was it. Imagine being eaten by a croc? That women had a family and friends just like you and me. But that's what a crocodile does. Nothing personal. No hard feelings.
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Dog just wants to be fed...morons. He ll find someone else to feed him and will be as happy as he was with his previous master. He ll just replace past pattenrs with new ones automatically because it's what his brain is designed for; survival, reproduction.
We love dogs because they love us unconditionally. That's great if you are on the receiving end but in reality unconditional love is the lowest form of love. Unconditional love means that I will love you no matter how you treat me or what kind of person you are. A dog will love you if you forget to feed it and even if you beat or abuse it. A dog will love you if you are an Adolph Hitler or a Mother Teresa. It's effortless because no standard of behavior is required of you. Nothing is required of you. It's cheap love. But it feels good and that's what's most important nowadays.
Humans, for the most part, will not do this. You will not do this. Nor should you. So one must work to earn and deserve respect and love. This requires effort and is another reason why people are becoming so isolated and treat their pets like another human -- like a member of their family in the literal sense. That they will mourn the lost of their dog like they would mourn the lost of their daughter. That if they had to choose between the lost of their dog or their daughter would be like asking them to choose between the lost of their daughter and their son.
I love dogs. And I never get tired of being with my dog and always having it by my side. I cannot say the same for humans. But I never want to forget that it's still a dog and it's not morally equivalent to a human being. So if my dog and a stranger were drowning and I could only save one, I'd save the stranger ever time. Every damn time.
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We love dogs because they love us unconditionally. That's great if you are on the receiving end but in reality unconditional love is the lowest form of love. Unconditional love means that I will love you no matter how you treat me or what kind of person you are. A dog will love you if you forget to feed it and even if you beat or abuse it. A dog will love you if you are an Adolph Hitler or a Mother Teresa. It's effortless because no standard of behavior is required of you. Nothing is required of you. It's cheap love. But it feels good and that's what's most important nowadays.
Humans, for the most part, will not do this. You will not do this. Nor should you. So one must work to earn and deserve respect and love. This requires effort and is another reason why people are becoming so isolated and treat their pets like another human -- like a member of their family in the literal sense. That they will mourn the lost of their dog like they would mourn the lost of their daughter. That if they had to choose between the lost of their dog or their daughter would be like asking them to choose between the lost of their daughter and their son.
I love dogs. And I never get tired of being with my dog and always having it by my side. I cannot say the same for humans. But I never want to forget that it's still a dog and it's not morally equivalent to a human being. So if my dog and a stranger were drowning and I could only save one, I'd save the stranger ever time. Every damn time.
no,, i would save the dog ,, every single time,, with this generation? the dog 100% ,,
the dog is the only thing that havent changed since the 80s,,, humans became shit,, they became disgusting fat low level timulation gremlins,, its the dogs that have some dignity left and bring back the good times even if for short while its stil the same as it was in the 70s and 80s and early 90s,,
what happend since 1997-1998 is disaster of a society ,, human beings do not deserve this name,, this is the truth ,, one look into face book will show you that
i would save the dog over stranger ANY time,,
only thing i have to say with to end this is
CASEY ANTHONY,, this is what i think about americano whores,, that girl is exactly what i think about americano girls,, to the t!
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So the dogs aren't involved in 'generation nothingness' is that what you're saying?
I'll bet you that when the WW2 generation was growing up, THEIR parents were saying they were a crap generation.
For instance, they probably argued that these whippersnappers running around today had allowed alcohol to become legal, and due to being morally reprehensible, they had caused the Depression.
And come to think of it, what was your generation's great accomplishment in the 80s? Boom boxes? Come on, that is the generation that started the crack epidemic and spread AIDS worldwide. So thanks for that, oh Saint of Great Morals. Oh, upright citizens from which the world has descended.
Man, you are a dense human being, you know that? No perspective whatsoever.
Blame other people so that you can feel superior. A sorrier sack of shit there never was.
Tell you what, why don't you stick to telling people, based on YOUR experience, how to cheat while injecting themselves with illegal drugs? At least you're being honest there.
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no,, i would save the dog ,, every single time,, with this generation? the dog 100% ,,
the dog is the only thing that havent changed since the 80s,,, humans became shit,, they became disgusting fat low level timulation gremlins,, its the dogs that have some dignity left and bring back the good times even if for short while its stil the same as it was in the 70s and 80s and early 90s,,
what happend since 1997-1998 is disaster of a society ,, human beings do not deserve this name,, this is the truth ,, one look into face book will show you that
i would save the dog over stranger ANY time,,
only thing i have to say with to end this is
CASEY ANTHONY,, this is what i think about americano whores,, that girl is exactly what i think about americano girls,, to the t!
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The human I save may be your daughter or son. That's why I specified "stranger." Obviously if it was Casey Anthony or Craig Titus I would help them drown. In Christianity, man, despite all his flaws, is divine and has a soul. We do not believe that dogs, or any other animal, goes to Heaven.
Casey Anthony is an aberration. A monster masquerading as a human being. Most mothers do not kill their children.
Remember Patrick Tillman and others like him that have/had a value system beyond themselves. The media gives us a proctologist view of the world. The famous are rarely good and the good are rarely famous.
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So the dogs aren't involved in 'generation nothingness' is that what you're saying?
I'll bet you that when the WW2 generation was growing up, THEIR parents were saying they were a crap generation.
For instance, they probably argued that these whippersnappers running around today had allowed alcohol to become legal, and due to being morally reprehensible, they had caused the Depression.
And come to think of it, what was your generation's great accomplishment in the 80s? Boom boxes? Come on, that is the generation that started the crack epidemic and spread AIDS worldwide. So thanks for that, oh Saint of Great Morals. Oh, upright citizens from which the world has descended.
Man, you are a dense human being, you know that? No perspective whatsoever.
Blame other people so that you can feel superior. A sorrier sack of shit there never was.
Tell you what, why don't you stick to telling people, based on YOUR experience, how to cheat while injecting themselves with illegal drugs? At least you're being honest there.
The 1980s gave us Reagan, Thatcher and Pope John which set into motion the destruction of the most murderous regime ever -- Communism.
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The 1980s gave us Reagan, Thatcher and Pope John which set into motion the destruction of the most murderous regime ever -- Communism.
Keep trying.
PS You're old and have been replaced.
Quit being a whiny bitch about it already.
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I have no doubts dogs/pets exist so people who have been definitely harmed psychologically/physically by their caregivers during childhood can still give and receive love -or re-learn the process-. These people cannot raise kids, cant have friends anymore, so they cope with pets. I see butch lesbians and male homosexuals with pets. They dont understand why they re homosexuals, want kids, cant...they know it deep inside. PEts are a substitute of human offsprings you cannot reasonably obtain. Old people get them too , reminds them their own kids/grand kids relationships -you give, you receive...you...exist-. They feel useful to...someone/something else. Actually homosexuals with pets, or nevrotic couples with pets are somewhat good people. They know there s something wrong with themselves, and dont want to worsen things.
They should tho, clearely, stop being homosexuals (if you learned to be homosexual, most of the time subconsciously, why couldnt you unlearn it? Most homosexuals would ironically make great life partners for someone of the other gender), free themselves from their nevrosis going back in their past , solve the issues embeded, enkysted in their subconscious/past recordings on their harddrive/brains, whatever the cost, and have kids, but to most it's too tough to do in a single lifetime. The result of such a "life" tho, is clear; no pass to eternity, the end of a lineage, and a constant depressive state all life long. If everyone in the human specie fall in this trap, it means we wont reproduce anymore at all. That's what at stakes here.
Also let's not ignore the virtues of having kids which in itself can heal yourself. Lot of great individuals - who contribute greatly to their specie and in return will feel happy- are sons or daughters of deeply hurt people who sacrified themselves focusing on correcting as many mistakes as possibles in the education of their kids. But for desperate cases, they should not be able to reproduce. Desperate cases in a religious country are very few tho. They just seem numerous because population is growing. Desperate cases are a dime a dozen in non religious societies, or in the third world. We re building a lot of people who cannot do anything else but destroy, destroy, and destroy. A selection will have to be made to insure that what's good in mankind prevails. It's mathematical.
The worst people are nevrotic and homosexuals people who spawn or raise their own or someone esle kids. They re going to spawn/raise nevrotic and homosexual kids who will simply reproduce their own hell, lifestyle. You have no choice but to fight Evil in yourself ultimately. Not having kids when you cant fight the evil in yourself is somehwat the best of two evils and will somehwat be retributed ultimately as it is a coureageous endeavour. You know you didnt get the whole picture, but you were close to it and didnt want to make anyone else miserable; you decided to be misreable without hurting others. That's an attitude geared toward others, toward the specie, toward...Life. You can still contribute by doing other things. You cannot do anything else ayway, but what you ve been designed for. And of course, no, you didnt choose anything in all of this, nor did your parents, or grand parents...and so on. You either contribute, dont contribute, or destroy. There are a variety of behaviors based on these 3 basic rules. You have people who contribute but are hypocrits, people who dont contribute their whole life and only in their last years, you have people who destroy...for good reasons that ultimately will allow life to survive...
As long as people with no kids and who own pets (old people, young people who got scarified too deeply to be able to feel and give love to others uhman beings, homos) contribute to society with their socio professional occupations -or other tasks-, there's no problem here. It's when they ruin other peoples lives because they re sad of their own life they re a problem. Everyone has a right to feel emotions, attachment, love. If it's toward a pet instead of another human , who cares. As long as you dont hurt anyone. -there are also people who have animals and treat them the way their inital caregivers treated them = violently. It's not rare to see kids abandonned by their fathers, or physically/psychologically abused bvy them to bully pets, smaller animals they can control with their physical superioririty. They simply reproduce what they learnt from their caregivers and cope by hurting smaller animals than themselves-
The same principle applies when you have someone on a internet messageboard who harmed himself psychologically watching porn/violent pictures and post them without a warning randomly between posts to hurt others people gratuitously; it helps him cope with his own trauma; he reproduces the fact he s been hurt to hurt others. It s an immature, dangerous way too evacuate your trauma. This person should in fact conceal it and prevent other people from being hurt as he/she was. It's an immature behavior, a kid behavior who cannot control what he does to others to hurt others. They dont know if what they did, what they re doing, is good to them and others, or bad. They need a lesson, they need to understand they causing harm , someone has to teach them. I think these people look for validation, help, by contaminating other people. Ultimately they re following a logic of destruction. But mature, healthy, life oriented adults do not hurt others, especially kids, they protect them. If they find something that hurts, they prevent others people from "finding it", keep em away from it, they sacrify themselves, their own suffering so others do not suffer. Others share and spread their suffering because they ve been badly raised and are anti-life ultimately.
We ve been spawned by our specie to serve our specie , maintain or improve its odds of survival. We can do it -been designed to do it- by spawning contributing offsprings, or trhu our socio professional occupation. We can of course do both. Be productive at work, raise productive kids. Life. Insuring that life keeps going.
Suicidal thoughts occur when you figure nobody cares about you, because you do not contribute to anything, arent useful to anyone. It means your existence has no meaning, and that you are a mistake of life, as life has for only and sole purpose to encourage life itself thru action (motion) and relationships.
Suicidal thoughts are reinforced after you ve been harmed, decieved, by someone you had trust in (caregivers, loved one(s)), when they proved you they didnt care about your existence and could go on without you. Laziness, procrastination , addictions you know you should stop but cant worsen the picture.
Hapiness is found with people you can rely on and you build a complete symbiosis with -takes a lifetime-. These people you can find in a family, at work. You can only develop 2 to 4 really meaningful relationships in a lifetime.
Life and death, love and hate are two sides of a same coin. Everything is binary fundamentally, even if inconceivably complex seen from the outside.
Our only real freedom... is to do good or evil. To maintain and perpetuate life... or to destroy it. To do good you have to LEARN how to do it. You need to be TAUGHT. It's innate. Animals dont "know" it seems.
You cannot go any further in terms of reasoning. If you try, you ll loose your mind, as we havent been designed (by evolution, or god(s) or the "big Thing") to go any further.
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Keep trying.
PS You're old and have been replaced.
Quit being a whiny bitch about it already.
Replaced by what? I'm as old as Obama. Furthermore, I'm in much better shape than you are. I may be older in years but physically I make you look like my grandpa. And the only bitch is you as I bitch slap you.
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No one fucks with my dogs. They're the greatest. Far better than any human I've ever met.
My lab Buddy is getting over the hills and it pains me to see him deteriorate. His special food and medications cost thousands but it gives him a much better quality of life. I choose him over running better hormonas and GHona without a doubt... I can handle being a tiny tit so long as this fella keeps smiling! My chihuahua Ronnie Coleman is the shit too! Couldn't help but dig up some pics to share. These guys are the fucking best! 8)
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Suicidal thoughts occur when you figure nobody cares about you, because you do not contribute to anything, arent useful to anyone. It means your existence has no meaning, and that you are a mistake of life, as life has for only and sole purpose to encourage life itself thru action (motion) and relationships.
Suicidal thoughts are reinforced after you ve been harmed, decieved, by someone you had trust in (caregivers, loved one(s)), when they proved you they didnt care about your existence and could go on without you.
But what about the will to survive? Wouldn't someone in this position, if they were driven to survive, seek out meaningful relationships instead of destroying their self?
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But what about the will to survive? Wouldn't someone in this position, if they were driven to survive, seek out meaningful relationships instead of destroying their self?
depends of so many factors... for example if you re ugly and dumb, badly raised/educated, if you have friends or not, a family... Also people who consider suicide are often people WHO ARE SO ASHAMED OF THE REALIZATION OF ONE OR SEVERAL PAST MISTAKES THEY CANNOT REVERSE THAT THEY FEEL THEY DONT DESERVE TO LIVE ANYMORE. THEY REALIZE HOW INHUMAN THEY VE BEEN AND VISUALIZE THE SUFFERING THEY INFLICTED TO SOMEONE WHO WAS HELPESS OR TRUSTED THEM AND IT KILLS THEM SLOWLY. THEY RE ALSO OFTEN SCARED OF DEATH AND BEING JUDGED. That the little stories they never listend to might be... right. Others precisely dont want to die because they also fear these stories might be right...Most suicidal people are fathers who abandonned families, people who lured kids or loved ones in bad life threatening directions, who cheated on faithful wives.
Teens who kill themselves are epidemic lately in occident. Too old, too soon, have seen hell between their own parents and cannot believe in anything good anymore.
It's often a combination of it all. There are always people responsible for someone 's death. There are often hidden stories kids werent aware of until they reach adulthood, or even later in life that put together shed light on reality and what happened. It's often a combination of so many factors, people who harmed you in your own family, in your brotherhood, friendships etc. Everything is always inteconected.
Bad acts lead to the loss of hope, to the destruction of people minds (and bodies) over time, it's very gradual, slow, and these bad acts have deep consequences over the next generations of a lineage especially when they re hidden -yet keep repeating themselves...-. I wont insult your intelligence by telling you what are these bad acts and document them, have alrdy been done a long time ago...
Hapiness has nothing to do with intelligence, money, fame, physical appearance; it is about faith. With faith, whatever your looks , intelligence, you have all you need to contribute , build relationships and be happy.
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No one fucks with my dogs. They're the greatest. Far better than any human I've ever met.
My lab Buddy is getting over the hills and it pains me to see him deteriorate. His special food and medications cost thousands but it gives him a much better quality of life. I choose him over running better hormonas and GHona without a doubt... I can handle being a tiny tit so long as this fella keeps smiling! My chihuahua Ronnie Coleman is the shit too! Couldn't help but dig up some pics to share. These guys are the fucking best! 8)
"Far better than any humans I've met."
Including your wife? Have any nieces or nephews? A best friend? Do you have children yet? Will they play second fiddle to your dog?
My friend, as I've said before, no animal comes close to the bond between man and animal that a dog does. Uber brings up some interesting points as to why that is. But whatever the reason it's there. I've always had dogs and I absolutely love them. But I love my sister more. My brother. My nieces and nephews. My friends.
There are many miserable human beings on this earth. It's been many years since I've gone to a movie, concert -- when I go to the mall I just dart in and get what I planned to get and fast foot it out of there. My gym is equipped well enough but it's the people there that for the most part I dislike and make going to the gym a little less pleasant of an experience. I'm not exactly a people person. But that's because people have gotten worse. More rude, more inconsiderate, more self-centered and self-absorbed, more uncivil. But there's a big difference between the general masses and individuals. I still watch movies, go to parties and gatherings, but it's only with people that I know and love. Even at the gym there are a handful that are just gold. Not many of them. But they're there.
I love my dog. I've had many dogs in my life. Each one had something special. There's one that was exceptionally special in my life when I was a teen. But I got over it. I don't pine for that dog like I do when I lost a special person in my life many years ago. My dog was replaced and I really don't think about him anymore. No one can replace the little girl that I lost and I think about her everyday.
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Just a quick story about my beloved German Shepard I had as a teen. It was the most friendliest, playful, spirited, lovable dog I ever had. To me and to everyone that it could sense was a friend to me at least. But it was also a fierce guard dog. The way it would bark and bare it's teeth to strangers it's body tense and poised for combat, was pretty damn intimidation. It never met another male dog without attacking it. It never met a female dog that it didn't try to bone. I also learned not to touch it's food or bone while it was eating or chewing. It would instinctively growl at me. I don't know if it would snap at me if I took it's food or bone and it never challenged of showed aggression to me but I never pushed it and I felt it deserved that respect. I just figured food has a much different meaning to an animal than it does to a human where, at least in this country, is plentiful.
When the dog down the street would get in heat my dog would go crazy. Always banging against the wooden fence, trying to dig a hole under the fence (which I would fill back up because eventually it would be able to dig it's way out). Well, one night I heard my dog going through another frustrated night. While it was pounding against the fence I then heard one of the boards crack and out my dog went. I immediately got out of my bed and ran after it. The usual obedient dog completely ignored my commands. By the time I catch up to him he was in the process of utterly and brutally raping my neighbor's door while she was wailing. We tried to get him off and my neighbor turned the hose on him but all to no avail. It ended only when my dog was finished and satisfied.
It brought home the often forgotten fact that a dog, lovable as he is, is still a dog and a dog is still an animal.
And, yes, man is also an animal, but not just an animal. There would be a whole lot more raping going on, as well as other violent crime, if everyone just surrendered to their animal nature.
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GH15
So the dogs aren't involved in 'generation nothingness' is that what you're saying?
I'll bet you that when the WW2 generation was growing up, THEIR parents were saying they were a crap generation.
For instance, they probably argued that these whippersnappers running around today had allowed alcohol to become legal, and due to being morally reprehensible, they had caused the Depression.
And come to think of it, what was your generation's great accomplishment in the 80s? Boom boxes? Come on, that is the generation that started the crack epidemic and spread AIDS worldwide. So thanks for that, oh Saint of Great Morals. Oh, upright citizens from which the world has descended.
Man, you are a dense human being, you know that? No perspective whatsoever.
Blame other people so that you can feel superior. A sorrier sack of shit there never was.
Tell you what, why don't you stick to telling people, based on YOUR experience, how to cheat while injecting themselves with illegal drugs? At least you're being honest there.
im always being honest,, if you dont like it then dont read it,,
to tell you truth,, i would prefer 100 fredy mercuries insted of ONE britney spears or jenifer lopezo,, 100 freddy mecuries,, but this is nto the subject of anything here,,
the generation now is very very bad,, it is seen everywhere from fake tiger woods achivments while on drugs....to fake untalented all show off of skin type of singer wanna bes or artists wanna be,, it is the level of stimulation that went way down...why? because of technology,,, it is quite bad my friend,, yes internet help in some ways but! it did much worse than helping,, especialy the progress...and its nto progress but the development of stuff such as face book ,, it went to my space balonie into really penetrating any little bit of privacy ones have,,
listen ,, i know what im talking about ,, i dont go around say im genious,, but im highly inteligent this is how i got to the top at what i do ,,
now! yes im narcisistic ,, im ego maniac at times,, but! i also have brain on my head that run and process things,, and now day it is a mess,, ask anyone even this fucked up generation admit to it ,, many of them good kids suffer due to the majority of shit they need to deal with ,, look how bad their girls make them feel,, not their girls per say ,, but girls in general look how bad girls became....guys here dont really hate girls...they just hate what girls becamee in thisd generation ,, i used to think it was the males who created the problems fo girls in americana and thats why they become what they became,, but in my honest opinion its not the man who did it ...it is the GIRLS who ruined it by the influence of the wanna be black era and the total control black took over ameicano society ,, it is psycology and its not for this tread,,
now in regarding dogs,,
dogs do not belong to a specific generation ,, i told you what i think of dogs,, i think they are angels,,they come with innocent eyes and leave you with innocent eyes ,, they are the 4 year old kid who never truly grow up to be ruined by society ,,
along the years...it start with you being the daddy for your puppy,, you are older than him he is your son,, then years pass by.. and every year your dog become older and it get to a point you are the same age....and then he gets even older...and he become older than you he is now your dad and you are the son ,, yet in reality he is still your boy ,,he follow you and keep you safe from when he is young puppy till when he is old and grey all with out saying one word ,, sometime you take it for granted ,,days you are so busy with life that you just used to him being there ,, he still take care of you he take care of you with out you even noticing,,
the day most fellas notice is the day that this young puppy that by then old and grey puppy get his wings and leave quietly,,oh then you notice that,, oh you are fuckin notice that then,, no one ever recover when it happen ,, it just become a memory and sit in your heart for ever ,,only then your human brain suddenly bring back a speedy account of every little moment you had with him or her,, every little thing suddenly come up when you sit there and cry you eyes out ,,
only then! you understand the impact of your best friend being gone,,but if you raised him with love and unconditional love,, he will watch over you for ever trust me on that its was proven to me in matters of life and death
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the only time you will see me going truly nuts is if i see dog being abused and hurt ,, i have learned in life through the years from very young age that the only one friend who you can count on asidde from close family ...is those angels ,, i consider dogs angels ,,
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Dogs have no individual thought, they are social animals that require constant Attention, cats are far better designed, they give affection but dont whore themselves due to emotional weakness.