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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2011, 04:09:16 PM »
Dog just wants to be fed...morons. He ll find someone else to feed him and will be as happy as he was with his previous master. He ll just replace past pattenrs with new ones automatically because it's what his brain is designed for; survival, reproduction.

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2011, 04:10:13 PM »
every animal is better than humans my friend - humans are generally disgusting creatures.
Animals and humans are...animals...  no difference. Intelligence in man is just an extension, an evolution of bestiality. make no mistake.  Animals fight, kill each others for domination, too. They ve been conceived to survive at all costs, just like us. Dogs were savage wolves in the past, we shaped /conditionned them the way we wanted them over centuries it's called artificial selection. They stayed with men because men increased their odds of survival by feeding them with more food they could get in a natural environment. Dogs, dinosaurs, birds, monkeys, gorillas, fishes... we all come from the same cells in the first place and we all work the same fundamentally; we re here to adapt by cooperation, dominating, or submiting temporary and every animal existence is about switching from all these strategies of survival when it is the most adequate. Vegetal life, animal life... Everything that is alive only fights for its survival. Different species are just different evolutions of the same base patterns.

The question now is, is there a justice in all of this, is there an equilibrium, has it been created, WHY? where / when did it start...did it start, does it have an end? That the one million dollar questions. Look. We as humans create and condition other humans, arent we gods, somehow, with just more limited powers than the potential one who might have created it ALL ? Why, if He exists, did he give us this opportunity? Why is hapiness the result of evolution in men? The principles of Causes and consequences are proven scientifically in our lifetime. What is the consequence of a good life, what is the consequence of a bad life?  Why do we have the choice to do good or bad as humans? Are "animals" who arent from the human specie, conscious? do they feel good, bad? Are they "fair"?

Also, some food for thoughts;

Did God create our brain, or does our brain creates God? In the second case, it would mean evolution created, developed, our brain... and our brain as a result developed religion... it means religion is a psychological/psychic, creation of... evolution in itself. The point of religion is to unite people who follow the same rules, increase their chances of survival as a specie, and theyfight to survive against people who follow others rules, principles, who have others gods. Buddhism, and most oriental religions, philosophies are replaced, islam is growing, and christiannism is disapearing especially in eurasia, but still strong in north america.... Lots of people in the whole world who still believe in chirstiannism, and follow the principles everyday, whatever they skin color. Some even replaced their past religions with this new one considering it superior. So who s the real god, the right god? Is muhamad the antechrist? Have we been created by aliens? Are we the aliens? Is there a meaning, or is there no meaning, with everything that it involves of depressing and ultimately dreadful. Is all of what we see, hear, think, touch...FAKE? is it just an invention of our brain, the chemicals in our brain? Are we pupets, characters of a movie ?

Also nobody can tell if god exists...or not. Science cannot. And most important scientifics come from religious families in the first place.

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2011, 04:14:25 PM »
animals and humans are...animals...  no difference. Intelligence in man is just an extension, and evolution of bestiality. make no mistake.

Also, some food for thoughts;

Did God create our brain, or does our brain creates God?

That's a great reflection  ;)

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2011, 05:26:35 PM »
every animal is better than humans my friend - humans are generally disgusting creatures.
Many, many humans have mourned the passing of other humans. Not every human is scum like we all tend to believe.

Dogs are unconditional loyal yes, because they can't think past 30 seconds and don't remember much either. I love dogs but they are animals just like the rest of us.

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2011, 05:35:44 PM »
animals kill for food only, not for joy, not for revenge, not for power...their nature is caring...can we say the same ? no.
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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2011, 05:38:31 PM »
Pretty touching video. My chocolate lab passed 6 years ago but anytime my back was killing me he would sense my pain and lay his head on me and just watch me. Damn I miss him.   :'(

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2011, 05:45:27 PM »
animals kill for food only, not for joy, not for revenge, not for power...their nature is caring...can we say the same ? no.
Chimpanzees kill each other for power.

In fact, their biggest threat is themselves, much like man. It's not predators that are their biggest concern.
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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2011, 05:46:53 PM »
I've always preferred dogs to human beings. Can't see that changing.
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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2011, 05:47:59 PM »
I've always preferred dogs to human beings. Can't see that changing.

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2011, 05:49:06 PM »
Thanks, GH!

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2011, 05:51:25 PM »
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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2011, 05:52:53 PM »
animals kill for food only, not for joy, not for revenge, not for power...their nature is caring...can we say the same ? no.
huh... "joy, revenge, power" are strategies of survival... just like everything that exists. Products of intelligence which itself is a product of brain, which is a product of evolution...

Male lions kill the infants of a submited female after they kill/dominate the previous alpha male of the group... They then impregnate the females so they can spawn THEIR offsprings... you re ignorant, talking out of your ass...








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some are solitary, others live in small groups, and still others live
in large groups. But social behavior has consequences for survival and
reproduction. Depending, for example, on whether a species' food supply
is clumped or spread out, and on whether a species faces high risk of
attack by predators, either solitary living or group living may be better
for promoting survival and reproduction.
Similar considerations apply to sexuality. Some sexual characteristics
may be more advantageous for survival and reproduction than others,
depending on each species' food supply, exposure to predators, and other
biological characteristics. At this point I shall mention just one
example, a behavior that at first seems diametrically opposed to
evolutionary logic: sexual cannibalism. The male of some species of
spiders and mantises is routinely eaten by his mate just after or even
while he is copulating with her. This cannibalism clearly involves the
male's consent, because the male of these species approaches the female,
makes no attempt to escape, and may even bend his head and thorax toward
the female's mouth so that she may munch her way through most of his
body while his abdomen remains to complete the job of injecting sperm
into her.
If one thinks of natural selection as the maximization of survival,
such cannibalistic suicide makes no sense. Actually, natural selection
maximizes the transmission of genes, and survival is in most cases just
one strategy that provides repeated opportunities to transmit genes.
Suppose that opportunities to transmit genes arise unpre-dictably and
infrequently, and that the number of offspring
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produced by such opportunities increases with the female's nutritional
condition. That's the case for some species of spiders and mantises
living at low population densities. A male is lucky to encounter a female
at all, and such luck is unlikely to strike twice. The male's best
strategy is to produce as many offspring bearing his genes as possible
out of his lucky find. The larger a female's nutritional reserves, the
more calories and protein she has available to transform into eggs.
If the male departed after mating, he would probably not find another
female and his continued survival would thus be useless. Instead, by
encouraging the female to eat him, he enables her to produce more eggs
bearing his genes. In addition, a female spider whose mouth is distracted
by munching a male's body allows copulation with the male's genitalia
to proceed for a longer time, resulting in more sperm transferred and
more eggs fertilized. The male spider's evolutionary logic is
impeccable and seems bizarre to us only because other aspects of human
biology make sexual cannibalism disadvantageous. Most men have more
than one lifetime opportunity to copulate; even well-nourished women


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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2011, 07:50:26 PM »
I have to fully agree with GH on this one! 

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2011, 07:53:04 PM »
huh... "joy, revenge, power" are strategies of survival... just like everything that exists. Products of intelligence which itself is a product of brain, which is a product of evolution...

Male lions kill the infants of a submited female after they kill/dominate the previous alpha male of the group... They then impregnate the females so they can spawn THEIR offsprings... you re ignorant, talking out of your ass...









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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2011, 08:53:50 PM »


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My friends have this posted all over facebook. Very sad and touching. I'm sure the soldier would have liked it no other way.

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2011, 09:12:32 PM »
Pretty touching video. My chocolate lab passed 6 years ago but anytime my back was killing me he would sense my pain and lay his head on me and just watch me. Damn I miss him.   :'(
A woman could have rubbed the pain away...just saying
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Country dogs, when they are about to die, stop by everybody that they know as way of saying "goodbye", and then just leave, and die somewhere private.

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2011, 09:16:32 PM »
How to account for suicide?

dang you beat me to it! :D

was just going to ask uberman about this.

nietzsche said the desire for power was the ultimate motivating force for man, not survival.  i'm inclined to agree.

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2011, 09:21:41 PM »
The point of religion is to unite people who follow the same rules, increase their chances of survival as a specie, and theyfight to survive against people who follow others rules, principles, who have others gods.

Very good!

Most people seem to think religion is a tool for the powerful to exploit the weak.  While of course this happens to some degree, the main use is exactly the opposite: weak people banding together and forcing the strong (who are fewer in number) to submit to their lifestyle.

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2011, 10:20:28 PM »
Dog just wants to be fed...morons. He ll find someone else to feed him and will be as happy as he was with his previous master. He ll just replace past pattenrs with new ones automatically because it's what his brain is designed for; survival, reproduction.

the only time you will see me going truly nuts is if i see dog being abused and hurt ,, i have learned in life through the years from very young age that the only one friend who you can count on asidde from close family ...is those angels ,, i consider dogs angels ,,

a dog will NEVER betray you ,, a dog will love you unconditionaly ,, everything i do in my life has my dog in it in mind,, and when they pass away they always keep me safe no matter where i am ,, i had proofs for that along the years but it is very private things,,

i treat a dog like i treat myself,, exactly the same way ,, i give him or her chiken ,, lean burgers,, puperonies,, good foods,, i also make sure i rub it into their food with my own hands every single day into the science diet i put the chiken and make it all together so its not boring ,, we go  out for long walk 30 minutes 20-30 minutes not 5 min ,,parks ,, beach,,  i sleep to my dog back to back sometimes,, or he is under blanket,, he see me having sex on my my bed,, he is on the bed during it at times,, he watch movies with me ,, he does everything ,, he got maybe close to 10 k worth of puperonies and toys along the years,,we even have our own language ,, the only way you can get through to my heart is my dog

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2011, 10:32:27 PM »
the only time you will see me going truly nuts is if i see dog being abused and hurt ,, i have learned in life through the years from very young age that the only one friend who you can count on asidde from close family ...is those angels ,, i consider dogs angels ,,

a dog will NEVER betray you ,, a dog will love you unconditionaly ,, everything i do in my life has my dog in it in mind,, and when they pass away they always keep me safe no matter where i am ,, i had proofs for that along the years but it is very private things,,

i treat a dog like i treat myself,, exactly the same way ,, i give him or her chiken ,, lean burgers,, puperonies,, good foods,, i also make sure i rub it into their food with my own hands every single day into the science diet i put the chiken and make it all together so its not boring ,, we go  out for long walk 30 minutes 20-30 minutes not 5 min ,,parks ,, beach,,  i sleep to my dog back to back sometimes,, or he is under blanket,, he see me having sex on my my bed,, he is on the bed during it at times,, he watch movies with me ,, he does everything ,, he got maybe close to 10 k worth of puperonies and toys along the years,,we even have our own language ,, the only way you can get through to my heart is my dog

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2011, 11:13:39 PM »
the only time you will see me going truly nuts is if i see dog being abused and hurt ,, i have learned in life through the years from very young age that the only one friend who you can count on asidde from close family ...is those angels ,, i consider dogs angels ,,

a dog will NEVER betray you ,, a dog will love you unconditionaly ,, everything i do in my life has my dog in it in mind,, and when they pass away they always keep me safe no matter where i am ,, i had proofs for that along the years but it is very private things,,

i treat a dog like i treat myself,, exactly the same way ,, i give him or her chiken ,, lean burgers,, puperonies,, good foods,, i also make sure i rub it into their food with my own hands every single day into the science diet i put the chiken and make it all together so its not boring ,, we go  out for long walk 30 minutes 20-30 minutes not 5 min ,,parks ,, beach,,  i sleep to my dog back to back sometimes,, or he is under blanket,, he see me having sex on my my bed,, he is on the bed during it at times,, he watch movies with me ,, he does everything ,, he got maybe close to 10 k worth of puperonies and toys along the years,,we even have our own language ,, the only way you can get through to my heart is my dog

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haha thats awesome, miss my dog now  :( ..got this picture at school with me though ..dogs are the shit truly amazing animal and friend.

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« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2011, 11:17:41 PM »
the only time you will see me going truly nuts is if i see dog being abused and hurt ,, i have learned in life through the years from very young age that the only one friend who you can count on asidde from close family ...is those angels ,, i consider dogs angels ,,

a dog will NEVER betray you ,, a dog will love you unconditionaly ,, everything i do in my life has my dog in it in mind,, and when they pass away they always keep me safe no matter where i am ,, i had proofs for that along the years but it is very private things,,

i treat a dog like i treat myself,, exactly the same way ,, i give him or her chiken ,, lean burgers,, puperonies,, good foods,, i also make sure i rub it into their food with my own hands every single day into the science diet i put the chiken and make it all together so its not boring ,, we go  out for long walk 30 minutes 20-30 minutes not 5 min ,,parks ,, beach,,  i sleep to my dog back to back sometimes,, or he is under blanket,, he see me having sex on my my bed,, he is on the bed during it at times,, he watch movies with me ,, he does everything ,, he got maybe close to 10 k worth of puperonies and toys along the years,,we even have our own language ,, the only way you can get through to my heart is my dog

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2011, 11:37:38 PM »
Dog just wants to be fed...morons. He ll find someone else to feed him and will be as happy as he was with his previous master. He ll just replace past pattenrs with new ones automatically because it's what his brain is designed for; survival, reproduction.

If you think that a dog forgets about people in it's past just because it receives care from a new owner then you are wrong. My dog still perks up his ears and wags his tail in excitement as he  anticipates seeing his past owner and all I have to do is mention her name (and not in some exagerated tone and this is after not seeing her for ten years) because he had so many good experiences with her. Dogs don't suffer amnesia after the next bowl of food.

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« Reply #48 on: August 25, 2011, 11:40:04 PM »
Quote from: quadzilla456 link=topic=392847.msg5536579#msg5536579 date=
because they can't think past 30 seconds and don't remember much either.

The experiences with my dog tell me different.

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Re: thats why i like them more than humans,,
« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2011, 04:33:54 AM »
animals kill for food only, not for joy, not for revenge, not for power...their nature is caring...can we say the same ? no.

Wrong. Lions will kill the cubs that are not his. He will not eat it. Just eliminating future competition for his cubs. Just a month ago a miniature pony that use to run loose a quarter mile from where I live was attacked and killed by a pack of dogs. The did not eat it. When I was a kid I caught a parakeet, named Poppy, in my mango tree. It was a male and so I bought a female parakeet at the pet store. Quite couple. My brother then bought another male parakeet and we kept them all in the same cage. When I went to check on the birds the next morning I found Poppy pecked to death.

There are so many examples of animals killing for reasons other than food. How many humans get mauled to death by cougars and bears over the course of a year and are not eaten?