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Title: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Arnold jr on August 26, 2011, 01:38:55 PM
The Top Five Mistakes Gear Users Make:

5. Being Afraid of Testosterone: Testosterone is the most efficient and most versatile steroid there is and is without question the one with the highest level of toleration. There can be side-effects but the rate of probability is much lower than with many steroids and the side-effects are perhaps more easily controlled with this steroid than any other.

4. Using Orals as Only Kick-Starts: This is primarily regarding Anadrol and Dbol. There's nothing wrong with using them to kick start a cycle but they can be so much more useful in the middle of a good cycle to break though a sticking point. Most guys simply don't have the patience.

3. Buying cheap UG testosterone: There's way too much high quality testosterone out there to be skimping just to save a couple bucks per shot and when you don't make the gains similar to the next guy who's using Testoviron and you're using "TestoExplosion 4800" you don't need to wonder why any longer....there's your answer.

2. Running a bulking cycle, coming off for a few months and then starting a cutting cycle: This one doesn't make any sense. There's nothing wrong with coming off and taking breaks, no one can argue, it is good for your health to take breaks but when you come off an off-season cycle and take a big break your going to lose a lot of gains. The best way to go about it is run your off-season plan, go right into your cutting or contest cycle and once that's said and done if you want to take a break this is the time to take a break.  

1. Buying Generic HGH: Blue Tops, Yellow Tops, etc. there's so much counterfeit out there it's simply not worth it. Fine, you can get a kit of Blue's for $150, you're right, that's a great deal but it's not a great deal when the odds of it being fake are about 50% and if it is real the odds of each IU being up to par is very, very slim. If you want true HGH you're going to have to spend a little money, that's simply the truth.

*Bonus Mistake: Not listening to Arnold jr.  8)



Great post I agree with everything AJ said! this info is all spot on. You get what you pay for!
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: makaveli25 on August 26, 2011, 02:28:31 PM
Nice thread man.

Testerone is so much more tolerable if you get down to a good bf first. This last cycle I haven't had any problems with bloat or estrogen issues. I've been using masteron with it but I dieted down before I started. I look so much better. I agree with spending a little more and getting good test. You want to at least make sure the base of your cycle is human grade and legit.

Dbol is awesome anytime during cycle!
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: e.coli on August 26, 2011, 03:14:35 PM
problem for me with test, is that I cannot get hard when Im on it, that's so weird lol I'm like horny but cannot fuck.

Any advices ?

ty
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: dustin on August 26, 2011, 03:31:22 PM
problem for me with test, is that I cannot get hard when Im on it, that's so weird lol I'm like horny but cannot fuck.

Any advices ?

ty

Something's not right with your gear then, man.

First time I took test and it started kicking in, my dick got so hard I actually got scared. I waddled over to the computer, not to jack off but to Google what the fuck to do about my raging dick. I was too scared to whack it because I thought it would seriously explode. It's a great story to tell now, but I feared for my life. My mom works in the ER and there's no way I wanted to show up with the boner of a life time and tears streaming down my face. ;D
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: e.coli on August 26, 2011, 03:43:03 PM
Lol dustin

My gear are pharmacy testoviron so I know it's 100% legit.  ;)

Maybe its in my head lol
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: whitewidow on August 26, 2011, 05:29:58 PM
great post everything AJ said is spot on!
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: reppingfor20 on August 26, 2011, 07:28:01 PM
is 3.50 for an amp of testoviron a legit price or fake?
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: makaveli25 on August 26, 2011, 07:49:56 PM
is 3.50 for an amp of testoviron a legit price or fake?

That sounds about right. All depends where it's coming from.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: reppingfor20 on August 26, 2011, 07:55:41 PM
That sounds about right. All depends where it's coming from.

ok, just asking because most sell it for 7.50 and above and this person selling for 3.50 sounds like too good to be true.

Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: deadz on August 26, 2011, 08:54:39 PM
That sounds about right. All depends where it's coming from.
x2
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: reppingfor20 on August 26, 2011, 09:49:34 PM
can i post the sources name?  its schering test E, crazy cheap
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: dustin on August 26, 2011, 10:58:51 PM
Lol dustin

My gear are pharmacy testoviron so I know it's 100% legit.  ;)

Maybe its in my head lol

The mind is a powerful thing. I've sketched out a few times but was always able to perform. The wife would fucking kill me if juice made my winky go limp!  :o
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: gh15 on August 27, 2011, 02:17:02 AM
5 tops mistakes,,

5. not using legit  trenbolona ace

4. not using legit equipona

3. not using legit testosterona

2. not using hgh for prime the muscle or during ,,

1. not training


here,, very fast top mistakes of bodybuilder of modern era,, you do thsoe mistakes you wont look like quality bodybuilder

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Arnold jr on August 27, 2011, 12:26:16 PM
5 tops mistakes,,

5. not using legit  trenbolona ace

4. not using legit equipona

3. not using legit testosterona

2. not using hgh for prime the muscle or during ,,

1. not training


here,, very fast top mistakes of bodybuilder of modern era,, you do thsoe mistakes you wont look like quality bodybuilder

gh15 approved

Well obviously not training is stupid....it's not a mistake it's just plain stupid, the same as eating too much and not dieting hard enough is stupid, worrying about how big you are rather than how conditioned you are, these are all stupid and I do mean VERY stupid mistakes. I here guys say this all the time "I need to weight XYZ pounds before I start dieting" rather than simply worrying about the mirror like they should. Anyway, yes, these are all mistakes, same as not training would be.....I was simply referring to gear related mistakes.

BTW, as a note to your list, I am convinced the strong majority of all EQ is heavily under-dosed if not fake....of all the steroids this is one has more garbage out there than most and I'd be willing to bet 75% of the guys on this board if not more have never used true blue EQ because that much of it is poorly made. That said, I don't think EQ is an absolute necessity....nothing wrong with it but there are plenty of other things you can do if you don't have access to good EQ....I wouldn't put EQ in the same camp of absolute necessities like Test, Tren and HGH.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: luvvsuNOT on August 27, 2011, 02:59:30 PM
The Top Five Mistakes Gear Users Make:

5. Being Afraid of Testosterone: Testosterone is the most efficient and most versatile steroid there is and is without question the one with the highest level of toleration. There can be side-effects but the rate of probability is much lower than with many steroids and the side-effects are perhaps more easily controlled with this steroid than any other.

4. Using Orals as Only Kick-Starts: This is primarily regarding Anadrol and Dbol. There's nothing wrong with using them to kick start a cycle but they can be so much more useful in the middle of a good cycle to break though a sticking point. Most guys simply don't have the patience.

3. Buying cheap UG testosterone: There's way too much high quality testosterone out there to be skimping just to save a couple bucks per shot and when you don't make the gains similar to the next guy who's using Testoviron and you're using "TestoExplosion 4800" you don't need to wonder why any longer....there's your answer.

2. Running a bulking cycle, coming off for a few months and then starting a cutting cycle: This one doesn't make any sense. There's nothing wrong with coming off and taking breaks, no one can argue, it is good for your health to take breaks but when you come off an off-season cycle and take a big break your going to lose a lot of gains. The best way to go about it is run your off-season plan, go right into your cutting or contest cycle and once that's said and done if you want to take a break this is the time to take a break.  

1. Buying Generic HGH: Blue Tops, Yellow Tops, etc. there's so much counterfeit out there it's simply not worth it. Fine, you can get a kit of Blue's for $150, you're right, that's a great deal but it's not a great deal when the odds of it being fake are about 50% and if it is real the odds of each IU being up to par is very, very slim. If you want true HGH you're going to have to spend a little money, that's simply the truth.

*Bonus Mistake: Not listening to Arnold jr.  8)



Great post I agree with everything AJ said! this info is all spot on. You get what you pay for!

So you really think that one of the big mistakes today is the juice heads don't use enough testosterona? They're "afraid" of test? Can you give just one example of anybody on this board that fits that description? I've heard of all test cycles and Tbombz is one who has done that. But all deca cycles (unless you have nothingelse like tbombz), all eq cycles, all tren cycles?  A bigger probkem is that people are using too much test.

And what do you mean by cheap ug? The most important factor in buy ug or aything is the source. Superman, Karius, strango, Brinkman all sell 300mg+ test for less than $40 a 10ml vial. All top notch gear.

And if there was no chineese gh there would be no amatur bodybuilding. Seros are $15/iu. Run a measly 2iu/day and your already at $900/month. One iu of seros cost as much as a 10iu vial of redtops. hgh was very, very expensive to develop and bring to market. now that the recipe and secret it known its not any more expensive than insulin to manufactor. And you really, really think that 50% of the redtops, NDs, homer's rips and hyges are all fake? Many, may  users say different. Even RonnyT tested the counterfeit pnwheel hyges and found that they were legit gh. Big diff between fake (nothing) and counterfeit (one company trying to pass itself off as antoher).
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: luvvsuNOT on August 27, 2011, 03:00:36 PM
Well obviously not training is stupid....it's not a mistake it's just plain stupid, the same as eating too much and not dieting hard enough is stupid, worrying about how big you are rather than how conditioned you are, these are all stupid and I do mean VERY stupid mistakes. I here guys say this all the time "I need to weight XYZ pounds before I start dieting" rather than simply worrying about the mirror like they should. Anyway, yes, these are all mistakes, same as not training would be.....I was simply referring to gear related mistakes.

BTW, as a note to your list, I am convinced the strong majority of all EQ is heavily under-dosed if not fake....of all the steroids this is one has more garbage out there than most and I'd be willing to bet 75% of the guys on this board if not more have never used true blue EQ because that much of it is poorly made. That said, I don't think EQ is an absolute necessity....nothing wrong with it but there are plenty of other things you can do if you don't have access to good EQ....I wouldn't put EQ in the same camp of absolute necessities like Test, Tren and HGH.

Ever try to buy legit primo or even var?
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: tbombz on August 27, 2011, 03:19:08 PM
The Top Five Mistakes Gear Users Make:

5. Being Afraid of Testosterone: Testosterone is the most efficient and most versatile steroid there is and is without question the one with the highest level of toleration. There can be side-effects but the rate of probability is much lower than with many steroids and the side-effects are perhaps more easily controlled with this steroid than any other.

4. Using Orals as Only Kick-Starts: This is primarily regarding Anadrol and Dbol. There's nothing wrong with using them to kick start a cycle but they can be so much more useful in the middle of a good cycle to break though a sticking point. Most guys simply don't have the patience.

3. Buying cheap UG testosterone: There's way too much high quality testosterone out there to be skimping just to save a couple bucks per shot and when you don't make the gains similar to the next guy who's using Testoviron and you're using "TestoExplosion 4800" you don't need to wonder why any longer....there's your answer.

2. Running a bulking cycle, coming off for a few months and then starting a cutting cycle: This one doesn't make any sense. There's nothing wrong with coming off and taking breaks, no one can argue, it is good for your health to take breaks but when you come off an off-season cycle and take a big break your going to lose a lot of gains. The best way to go about it is run your off-season plan, go right into your cutting or contest cycle and once that's said and done if you want to take a break this is the time to take a break.  

1. Buying Generic HGH: Blue Tops, Yellow Tops, etc. there's so much counterfeit out there it's simply not worth it. Fine, you can get a kit of Blue's for $150, you're right, that's a great deal but it's not a great deal when the odds of it being fake are about 50% and if it is real the odds of each IU being up to par is very, very slim. If you want true HGH you're going to have to spend a little money, that's simply the truth.

*Bonus Mistake: Not listening to Arnold jr.  8)



Great post I agree with everything AJ said! this info is all spot on. You get what you pay for!

sounds like what your really trying to say is the biggest mistake one can make is not having a legit source.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Lord of the Roidz on August 27, 2011, 03:20:22 PM
1. Being just an ordinary gym rat who wants to be big..and staying on gear so long, he messes up his hpta axis for years. So basically a guy that will get small, flabby.. be depressed, have a low sex drive just so he could be big for a few years..stupid. Not worth it.

2. Never having blood work done and being on high doses for years. Risk screwed up HDL levels and clogging arteries resulting in possible premature heart attack.

3. Doing bulking cycles, eating tons of sodium, carrying 20 pounds of excess water..and never checking blood pressure. Bad for kidneys and stroke risk.

4. Juicing untill you shed all your hair and find out,, you never got very impressive looking anyway. Then say screw it, shave head, get tats and a goatee..Wake up one day and find out that silly fad is over...You lose!

5. Doing 10 tabs of Drol a day and going out drinking tons of booze with your buddies every night..and waking up one day wondering why you're skin is yellow.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Arnold jr on August 27, 2011, 03:45:13 PM
So you really think that one of the big mistakes today is the juice heads don't use enough testosterona? They're "afraid" of test? Can you give just one example of anybody on this board that fits that description? I've heard of all test cycles and Tbombz is one who has done that. But all deca cycles (unless you have nothingelse like tbombz), all eq cycles, all tren cycles?  A bigger probkem is that people are using too much test.

And what do you mean by cheap ug? The most important factor in buy ug or aything is the source. Superman, Karius, strango, Brinkman all sell 300mg+ test for less than $40 a 10ml vial. All top notch gear.

And if there was no chineese gh there would be no amatur bodybuilding. Seros are $15/iu. Run a measly 2iu/day and your already at $900/month. One iu of seros cost as much as a 10iu vial of redtops. hgh was very, very expensive to develop and bring to market. now that the recipe and secret it known its not any more expensive than insulin to manufactor. And you really, really think that 50% of the redtops, NDs, homer's rips and hyges are all fake? Many, may  users say different. Even RonnyT tested the counterfeit pnwheel hyges and found that they were legit gh. Big diff between fake (nothing) and counterfeit (one company trying to pass itself off as antoher).

There are a lot of guys out there scared to death of testosterone mostly because of bloating issues. I'm not necessarily talking about guys here on getbig, I don't know or keep up with what the guys here are doing, I'm speaking of real life.

Cheap UG simply means buying crappy products....I don't know how to make that one any clearer. Tons of guys buy gear all the time that hurts, burns, is weak as all outside yet they keep buying it.

Yes, most generic HGH is fake or severely under-dosed....I didn't say it all was.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Arnold jr on August 27, 2011, 03:45:49 PM
Ever try to buy legit primo or even var?


You're right, to very commonly counterfeited steroids.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Arnold jr on August 27, 2011, 03:46:59 PM
sounds like what your really trying to say is the biggest mistake one can make is not having a legit source.

Well, number 1 & number 3 would certainly support what you're saying.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: gh15 on August 27, 2011, 05:34:57 PM
5 tops mistakes,,

5. not using legit  trenbolona ace

4. not using legit equipona

3. not using legit testosterona

2. not using hgh for prime the muscle or during ,,

1. not training


here,, very fast top mistakes of bodybuilder of modern era,, you do thsoe mistakes you wont look like quality bodybuilder

gh15 approved


this is! the 5 biggest mistakes,, diet is not needed,, cardio is not needed unless you about to go on stage within 4-6 weeks ,,even then! be careful with dieting too much on those compounds,, diet is simply not needeed now days,, now....if you consider eating fish sushi and rice and icecream and bananas and pinaaple etc hard dieting...then yes but dieting of dry chiken and boring brown rice is not needed anymore,, you can eat sweet potato fries in over will be just the same

all the diet balonie make sticks make stiff make bad bad bad bodybuilders,, you diet last 4-6 weeks ,, you need to be al year 6-8% and you can do it if gh and or trenbolona ace is in system with equipona and testosterona ,, all legit ,,

the end

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Mega Man on August 27, 2011, 05:53:06 PM
There are a lot of guys out there scared to death of testosterone mostly because of bloating issues. I'm not necessarily talking about guys here on getbig, I don't know or keep up with what the guys here are doing, I'm speaking of real life.

Cheap UG simply means buying crappy products....I don't know how to make that one any clearer. Tons of guys buy gear all the time that hurts, burns, is weak as all outside yet they keep buying it.

Yes, most generic HGH is fake or severely under-dosed....I didn't say it all was.

Do you think Pep's ND blue is fake?
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Arnold jr on August 27, 2011, 06:45:01 PM
5 tops mistakes,,

5. not using legit  trenbolona ace

4. not using legit equipona

3. not using legit testosterona

2. not using hgh for prime the muscle or during ,,

1. not training


here,, very fast top mistakes of bodybuilder of modern era,, you do thsoe mistakes you wont look like quality bodybuilder

gh15 approved


this is! the 5 biggest mistakes,, diet is not needed,, cardio is not needed unless you about to go on stage within 4-6 weeks ,,even then! be careful with dieting too much on those compounds,, diet is simply not needeed now days,, now....if you consider eating fish sushi and rice and icecream and bananas and pinaaple etc hard dieting...then yes but dieting of dry chiken and boring brown rice is not needed anymore,, you can eat sweet potato fries in over will be just the same

all the diet balonie make sticks make stiff make bad bad bad bodybuilders,, you diet last 4-6 weeks ,, you need to be al year 6-8% and you can do it if gh and or trenbolona ace is in system with equipona and testosterona ,, all legit ,,

the end

gh15 approved

You just described perfectly why today's pro's no longer come to the stage in shape....because they don't worry about diet the last 4-6 weeks before a show. You can't have it both ways. There's a reason they're not coming in shape any more and this is it.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: reppingfor20 on August 27, 2011, 07:22:40 PM
Arj do you think insulin abuse is part of the reason they don't appear in shape at shows much anymore?



Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: kevinf on August 27, 2011, 07:37:03 PM
5 tops mistakes,,

5. not using legit  trenbolona ace

4. not using legit equipona

3. not using legit testosterona

2. not using hgh for prime the muscle or during ,,

1. not training


here,, very fast top mistakes of bodybuilder of modern era,, you do thsoe mistakes you wont look like quality bodybuilder

gh15 approved

LOL! i like this list alot better
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Arnold jr on August 27, 2011, 10:18:17 PM
Arj do you think insulin abuse is part of the reason they don't appear in shape at shows much anymore?





Somewhat but Levrone himself said it best this past spring, they're not showing up in shape anymore because no one is willing to diet.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: gh15 on August 27, 2011, 10:23:35 PM
this is a big problem ,, fellas just dont like to eat fish all day ,, i used to and still to this day eat fish all day long ,, sushi sushi tilapia  tilapia sushi suishi every mean is fish im not joking ,, to me it is dirty food i eat it with hot souce and rice and icecream at times,, eggwhites and pineaple bananas .... to me its dirty food lol in reality its not ,,

nothing will put you into superb shape like fish alll day long fishhhh ,, grilled steame sushi anything when you add gh and trenbolona to this  type food you get to look impressive ,, and its so tasty too ,, its not dry fish ,, it is sushi chirashi ,, and interesting grilled tilapia with special spices and etc

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Arnold jr on August 27, 2011, 11:03:44 PM
this is a big problem ,, fellas just dont like to eat fish all day ,, i used to and still to this day eat fish all day long ,, sushi sushi tilapia  tilapia sushi suishi every mean is fish im not joking ,, to me it is dirty food i eat it with hot souce and rice and icecream at times,, eggwhites and pineaple bananas .... to me its dirty food lol in reality its not ,,

nothing will put you into superb shape like fish alll day long fishhhh ,, grilled steame sushi anything when you add gh and trenbolona to this  type food you get to look impressive ,, and its so tasty too ,, its not dry fish ,, it is sushi chirashi ,, and interesting grilled tilapia with special spices and etc

gh15 approved

True and if more people would eat like this they'd look a lot better and at the same time if more were willing to take it even further if need be then again, more would look even better. I'm not saying you have to suffer but if that's what's needed at the end to be in shape then that's simply what's needed and no one seems to be willing to do it anymore.

I honestly don't understand it, in-fact it blows my mind. Here I am a guy with average genetics at best and during my dieting days I'd put myself through hell those last weeks if that's what it took and it often did yet guys who are professional, who make a living on looking their best aren't willing to do this, they're not willing to suffer....not only do I not understand it but it also pisses me off a little bit. There are guys out there right now, professionals that if while they might not be the best of the best genetically if they took the time and suffered a little bit they would show so much better but they're simply not willing to do it because the top guys won't do it and as a result the whole sport suffers.

Muscle can be impressive but it's not that impressive on its own...muscle with sick conditioning that makes the passerby throwup that is what's impressive.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: b-boy on August 28, 2011, 07:12:11 AM
5 tops mistakes,,

5. not using legit  trenbolona ace

4. not using legit equipona

3. not using legit testosterona

2. not using hgh for prime the muscle or during ,,

1. not training


here,, very fast top mistakes of bodybuilder of modern era,, you do thsoe mistakes you wont look like quality bodybuilder

gh15 approved


this is! the 5 biggest mistakes,, diet is not needed,, cardio is not needed unless you about to go on stage within 4-6 weeks ,,even then! be careful with dieting too much on those compounds,, diet is simply not needeed now days,, now....if you consider eating fish sushi and rice and icecream and bananas and pinaaple etc hard dieting...then yes but dieting of dry chiken and boring brown rice is not needed anymore,, you can eat sweet potato fries in over will be just the same

all the diet balonie make sticks make stiff make bad bad bad bodybuilders,, you diet last 4-6 weeks ,, you need to be al year 6-8% and you can do it if gh and or trenbolona ace is in system with equipona and testosterona ,, all legit ,,

the end

gh15 approved
GOD! I love you!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Arnold jr on August 28, 2011, 01:23:51 PM
Here's the problem with "diet is baloney" comment by GH15. He agrees today's pro's aren't in shape yet they're using tren and GH and all the other things so what's the problem...you can't have it both ways. Further, while some will make diet out to be more than it is, I agree with GH15 on that point it's still needed....again, you can't have it both ways. Further, many of you on here just enjoy hearing what you want to hear and that's a problem. If a pro bodybuilder running everything under the sun is not coming into the stage in top shape condition wise how good do you think the average genetic guy is going to do if he try's that? Not well.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: b-boy on August 28, 2011, 01:29:45 PM
Here's the problem with "diet is baloney" comment by GH15. He agrees today's pro's aren't in shape yet they're using tren and GH and all the other things so what's the problem...you can't have it both ways. Further, while some will make diet out to be more than it is, I agree with GH15 on that point it's still needed....again, you can't have it both ways. Further, many of you on here just enjoy hearing what you want to hear and that's a problem. If a pro bodybuilder running everything under the sun is not coming into the stage in top shape condition wise how good do you think the average genetic guy is going to do if he try's that? Not well.
and to any of those fucktarded pro's you are referring to.... drop the insulin dosage, keep the gh dosage up but drop it a week or so out from the show, stop all test or lower it to a great degree a few weeks out from the show and then see how you look on stage?  and stop doing dumb shit with your water and sodium the last couple days before a show, accept the fact that its better to come in slightly flat but "hard" than over carbed under watered, flat and smooth looking.   hey just a thought  ???
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Arnold jr on August 28, 2011, 06:00:35 PM
and to any of those fucktarded pro's you are referring to.... drop the insulin dosage, keep the gh dosage up but drop it a week or so out from the show, stop all test or lower it to a great degree a few weeks out from the show and then see how you look on stage?  and stop doing dumb shit with your water and sodium the last couple days before a show, accept the fact that its better to come in slightly flat but "hard" than over carbed under watered, flat and smooth looking.   hey just a thought  ???

I'm sure in some cases that could help but it's not the overall problem.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Meso_z on August 29, 2011, 10:18:54 AM
and to any of those fucktarded pro's you are referring to.... drop the insulin dosage, keep the gh dosage up but drop it a week or so out from the show, stop all test or lower it to a great degree a few weeks out from the show and then see how you look on stage?  and stop doing dumb shit with your water and sodium the last couple days before a show, accept the fact that its better to come in slightly flat but "hard" than over carbed under watered, flat and smooth looking.   hey just a thought  ???
You must be a guru.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: hangclean on August 29, 2011, 06:26:19 PM
You must be a guru.
Judging by his pics, I would say he knows what he is talking about.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Meso_z on August 30, 2011, 01:57:02 AM
Judging by his pics, I would say he knows what he is talking about.
Havent seen him to be honest but if he looks good, then he probably knows his thing.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: BOUNCER DAVE on August 30, 2011, 02:03:22 AM
Havent seen him to be honest but if he looks good, then he probably knows his thing.

Look at his thread on PM.
He sure knows his thing.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Meso_z on August 30, 2011, 07:04:49 AM
Look at his thread on PM.
He sure knows his thing.
hmm is he the guy who posted some back shots few weeks ago? If so, yes he looks good I misunderstood him.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: dustin on August 30, 2011, 09:23:47 AM
Hmm... this is making me want to pull out the steamer and start eating fish again. I leave that shit outside though. Hate when the house smells like a rank cooter lol

What are some tolerable fish recipes? I'll get momma in law to teach Vietnamese recipes, lemon and herbs (got fuckloads of fresh herbs in my back yard), what else? Freezer is full of salmon and tilapia. I would eat more fish if I knew what to do with it lol
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: tbombz on August 30, 2011, 09:56:42 AM
Hmm... this is making me want to pull out the steamer and start eating fish again. I leave that shit outside though. Hate when the house smells like a rank cooter lol

What are some tolerable fish recipes? I'll get momma in law to teach Vietnamese recipes, lemon and herbs (got fuckloads of fresh herbs in my back yard), what else? Freezer is full of salmon and tilapia. I would eat more fish if I knew what to do with it lol
tilapia is usually best baked, it breaks apart very easily so grilling and pan frying arent good choices. salmon is also good baked but can be barbecued. season with whatever spices/herbs you favor. one unique salmon recipe ive tried before and liked was with macadamia nuts. .. i searched for a recipe and this looks very similar except the one i had was baked. 

2 salmon steaks (1 inch thick)
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon coarsely ground pepper
1 egg white
1/2 cup chopped macadamia nuts
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
2 tablespoons butter or margarine
2 tablespoons minced fresh parsley
1 teaspoon lemon juice
Hot cooked rice

Directions

1.Sprinkle fish with salt and pepper. In a shallow bowl, whisk egg white until frothy. Dip fish in egg white, then coat with nuts. Gently pat nut mixture onto fish.
2.In a skillet, cook fish in oil over medium heat for about 6-8 minutes on each side or until fish flakes easily with a fork. Meanwhile, melt butter. Stir in parsley and lemon juice. Drizzle over fish. Serve with rice.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Arnold jr on August 30, 2011, 01:13:25 PM
If I'm dieting I never really cared what it taste like, not that I want it to taste butt nasty or anything but I simply never really cared. Tilapia is always best baked like tbombz said, it's just too flaky to cook any other way. A little spray butter on tilapia isn't bad and helps a lot.

Also, if you're really needing to diet hard the Walden Farms line of sauces aren't too bad...sugar free, carb free, calorie free, etc. The BBQ and Ranch is good.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: hangclean on August 30, 2011, 01:34:05 PM
tilapia is the most digusting farm raised crap you can buy.  usually comes from some piss-pond in indonesia somewhere.  get some cod, it's cheap, wild, and it tastes good.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Arnold jr on August 30, 2011, 01:38:34 PM
tilapia is the most digusting farm raised crap you can buy.  usually comes from some piss-pond in indonesia somewhere.  get some cod, it's cheap, wild, and it tastes good.

I've always like tilapia simply because it always seemed like the blandest of all. I can barely taste it and that's what I prefer. Cod taste way too fishy to me but maybe that's just my taste buds. I'm not a big fan of fish as far as the taste goes.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: hangclean on August 30, 2011, 02:12:05 PM
I've always like tilapia simply because it always seemed like the blandest of all. I can barely taste it and that's what I prefer. Cod taste way too fishy to me but maybe that's just my taste buds. I'm not a big fan of fish as far as the taste goes.
alaskan cod usually does not taste fishy.  Another good choice is red snapper or petrale sole.  these are only when dieting, obviously.  when not dieting I go for the more calorie dense stuff like salmon, sworfish, fatty tuna, etc.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: gh15 on August 30, 2011, 02:56:12 PM
tilapia is the most digusting farm raised crap you can buy.  usually comes from some piss-pond in indonesia somewhere.  get some cod, it's cheap, wild, and it tastes good.

and yet get the job done ,, and done well!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: pvttucker on August 30, 2011, 03:26:57 PM
and yet get the job done ,, and done well!

gh15 approved

The pissy tilapia or cod?
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: gh15 on August 30, 2011, 03:58:45 PM
both ,, every fish is good,, if you can actualy sit and eat fish all day every 2 hours...and be on the rigth hormones....you are going to look very very impressive,,doesnt mean you will be 240 6% because for that you need lots of hgh and insulina,, but 200-220lb 6% 5'10 is highly impressive  HIGHLY impressive especialy if you are true 6% and have the shrink wrap trenbolona and gh look to the muscle,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: JUMPER on August 30, 2011, 05:33:44 PM
What about can tuna ? Or to much sodium
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: Arnold jr on August 30, 2011, 11:51:56 PM
What about can tuna ? Or to much sodium

If your needing to hard diet you're better served sticking with white fish...may be nasty but if you're really trying to diet hard nasty doesn't and shouldn't matter.

For the record, I'm not saying anyone needs to eat like this all the time, I'm simply talking about hard dieting, the last few weeks before a show when you're really trying to get that last little bit of body-fat off that is just hanging on for dear life...you know, the fat most refuse to lose these days.

My theory, if you're standing on stage and you haven't been miserable for a wk or two you're probably not ready to stand on stage. There are exceptions but it's rare. Bodybuilding is suffering.
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: dustin on August 31, 2011, 12:56:55 AM
All right, well I've got a freezer full of tilapia so I'll bust it out tomorrow and fuck around. I actually realized I could just throw some Sriracha on that or Vietnamese vinaigrette.

If no one's ever had that before, it's called Nuoc Cham and is pretty popular in Viet restaurants. You can throw it on just about anything, but one way we eat it is with fish and greens. Wrap the fish in whatever leafy green veggies and dip it in the Nuoc Cham. They also made an egg crepe/omelette dish with ground pork and bean sprouts. You tear off a piece, wrap it with basil, mint, lettuce and dip it in the Nuoc Cham. It's called Cha Trung and is fucking chronic!

Here's a basic recipe for Nuoc Cham though. Mommy in law makes it without measuring anything but this seems pretty accurate:

Ingredients:

1/4 cup sugar
1/2 cup warm water
1/4 cup fish sauce (Viet Huong Three Crabs brand or Squid Brand fish sauce)
1/4 cup white vinegar
1/2 of a lime, juiced
3-4 cloves of garlic , minced
2-3 Thai chili pepper, minced

Directions:

1) In a small sealable jar, combine water and sugar and stir to dissolve the sugar. Add fish sauce, vinegar and lime juice and mix. Adjust flavors to taste.

2) Add garlic and chili pepper. The sauce can be stored at room temperature, if served the same day. Otherwise, store it in the refrigerator.

Makes about 1 1/2 cups

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2298/2227808416_673f998c2e.jpg)


Sorry, I just ate a fuckload of salad rolls and had like a liter of this stuff. I'll stop shilling for Vietnamese food now lol ;D
Title: Re: Top Five Mistakes
Post by: reppingfor20 on August 31, 2011, 05:25:18 PM
there is some fish that will give you when you fart orange spot on your underpants, watch out!