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Title: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Bam-bam on August 29, 2011, 08:37:19 PM
Gotta be Nasser since even some of the biggest Dorian fanboys admit Nasser pretty much deserved it in 1997.

All hail the Pharaoh of Muscle!
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: el numero uno on August 29, 2011, 08:57:38 PM
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Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: jaejonna on August 29, 2011, 09:18:25 PM
Flex was considered the heir apparent , Nassar was never really a thought or notion....
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: kiwiol on August 29, 2011, 09:39:37 PM
I'd have to say the 98 AC or 99 Olympia version of Flex would be hard to beat by any version of Nasser. So Flex, IMO.
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: closeline on August 30, 2011, 01:09:53 AM
flex by far

nasser = shittiest back in Mr O top 6 competitor s history

nasser = nassulin, on of the worst insulin abuser ever

nasser = along with ernie taylor the worst syntol abuser ever steped on Mr O stage

nasser = one of the worst poser ever

nasser = not only one great bodypart

flex would have won 1993-1998 if judges picked his look over dorians blocky physique in 1993, what actually would have saved bodybuilding from going to shithole-cult where it is today
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Karpaasi on August 30, 2011, 01:20:39 AM
Nasser was more closer. Flex always had bad luck to compete against legendary shapes of Dorian&Ronnie(1993, 1998, 1999) when he was second.

Nasser almost caught Dorian in 1997 when Doz's injuries piled up.


Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Meso_z on August 30, 2011, 01:37:40 AM
Nasser.

No way Flex could beat Ronnie.
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 30, 2011, 01:46:21 AM
Gotta be Nasser since even some of the biggest Dorian fanboys admit Nasser pretty much deserved it in 1997.

All hail the Pharaoh of Muscle!


Flex did in 98 , Nasser was never gonna win
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 30, 2011, 01:53:56 AM
flex by far

nasser = shittiest back in Mr O top 6 competitor s history

nasser = nassulin, on of the worst insulin abuser ever

nasser = along with ernie taylor the worst syntol abuser ever steped on Mr O stage

nasser = one of the worst poser ever

nasser = not only one great bodypart

flex would have won 1993-1998 if judges picked his look over dorians blocky physique in 1993, what actually would have saved bodybuilding from going to shithole-cult where it is today

You bring up some great points , his back was a severe liability his fans underestimate this often , it was lacking in proportionate thickness for a bodybuilder 280lbs it lacked depth , detail and width of and density , he looked outstanding from the front and looked like complete shit from the back , he looked like two completely different bodybuilders. 

Mind you Ronnie is 247lbs and Flex even lighter probably 230lbs and yet look like they outweigh Nasser by much more , Nasser is the heaviest by  far , like I said one bodybuilder from the front and another from the back.
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Parker on August 30, 2011, 02:44:40 AM
Nasser.

No way Flex could beat Ronnie.
Had Flex been in condition in 98, he might have won...Ronnie came in condition, Flex didn't, and Flex couldn't count on his "shape" to save hm this time.
Flex knew Ronnie was capable of beating him, it happened in 96, so Flex thinking he could waltz in and just take it, was a stupid notion.

On prophetic cartoon appeared in M&F that yr, it had Flex, Shawn, Ronnie, I believe Kevin and Nasser all fighting for the
Mr. O (really grabbig for it), and how did the placings turn out?

If anything, Flex had more #2s than Nasser did, and according to the Musclemag rankings at the time, he was ranked higher.

Also, Nasser was dominant during the Dorian era, not so with the Ronnie era, although capturing the AC in 99. had Flex not gotten sick, he'd last as long as Ronnie and still be #2, as Cutler didn't have Flex's shape nor back.

The objective and subjective answer to the OP's question would be Flex.
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: lesaucer on August 30, 2011, 04:00:08 AM
nasser destroys flex. but the one who really got closer to winning is levrone
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: mass243 on August 30, 2011, 04:20:32 AM
Flex all the way.

Look at the Olympia where Ronnie won his first Sandow... everyone have said Flex should have won. It must have been sooooooooo close.

I like Big Ron and he is the greatest of all times but damn, Flex looked better at that show.
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Parker on August 30, 2011, 05:29:44 AM
nasser destroys flex. but the one who really got closer to winning is levrone
Yeah, that pic in 98 sure does show that, doesn't it?
To be honest, Nasser in the 90s, from 95-97 faired better than Flex did, when it came to the Mr. O.
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: closeline on August 30, 2011, 05:43:55 AM
You bring up some great points , his back was a severe liability his fans underestimate this often , it was lacking in proportionate thickness for a bodybuilder 280lbs it lacked depth , detail and width of and density , he looked outstanding from the front and looked like complete shit from the back , he looked like two completely different bodybuilders. 

Mind you Ronnie is 247lbs and Flex even lighter probably 230lbs and yet look like they outweigh Nasser by much more , Nasser is the heaviest by  far , like I said one bodybuilder from the front and another from the back.

in the pics you posted you can clearly see two points i mentioned

- nassers biceps (already torn) and shoulders were oil filled to the 10th degree -> looked really bad
- his back screams fat from within leading to palumboism and tried to fix with a gallon of esiclene
its a shame that his back looked 10times better in 1994 before he gained 30lbs on severe insulin abuse while loosing his musclequality due to the fat pushing within the muscle
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Big Worm on August 30, 2011, 05:46:04 AM
Gotta be Nasser since even some of the biggest Dorian fanboys admit Nasser pretty much deserved it in 1997.

All hail the Pharaoh of Muscle!
Nasser..? Sorry bro.. Flex was the obvious,after Doeran left.. Nasser wasn't even in peoples thoughts.
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: yates fan on August 30, 2011, 05:49:23 AM
in reality flex came closer as far as a score is concerned,at the 98 olympia ronnie only beat flex by one point.flex was ahead of ronnie at one point in this contest,it took the judges awhile to realize what kinda shape ronnie was in.
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 30, 2011, 06:00:29 AM
FLEX......Far superior to Nasser..

Flex had a world class physique, cartoonish proportions in regards to muscle shape and bellies.

Nasser was a ham and egger, basically a gym-rat physique that was taken to it's absolute limit  with insane amounts of drugs, synthol and esciline.


QUICK.....name a standout bodypart on Nasser...


can't do it, because nothing stands out......he was just BIG
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: dr.chimps on August 30, 2011, 06:03:04 AM
FLEX......Far superior to Nasser..

Flex had a world class physique, cartoonish proportions in regards to muscle shape and bellies.

Nasser was a ham and egger, basically a gym-rat physique that was taken to it's absolute limit  with insane amounts of drugs, synthol and esciline.


QUICK.....name a standout bodypart on Nasser...


can't do it, because nothing stands out......he was just BIG
LOL. The Spider Rico of the BB'ing world.   
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Big Worm on August 30, 2011, 06:04:22 AM
FLEX......Far superior to Nasser..




QUICK.....name a standout bodypart on Nasser...


can't do it, because nothing stands out......he was just BIG
His lazy eye. !
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: BIG_STI on August 30, 2011, 06:08:17 AM
FLEX......Far superior to Nasser..

Flex had a world class physique, cartoonish proportions in regards to muscle shape and bellies.

Nasser was a ham and egger, basically a gym-rat physique that was taken to it's absolute limit  with insane amounts of drugs, synthol and esciline.


QUICK.....name a standout bodypart on Nasser...


can't do it, because nothing stands out......he was just BIG

All I ever noticed was his hairline get worse and worse from Olympia to Olympia
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: MB on August 30, 2011, 06:17:54 AM
Nasser received a lot of gift placings.  He was easy to pick apart, especially from the back.  In a competitive era like the mid '90's, Nasser had no business beating Flex, Shawn, Ronnie, Kevin, Francois, etc. 
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 30, 2011, 06:38:07 AM
One time i was throwing Nasser out of a  window and a piece of glass caught his rear delt, and this weird gooey shit started spurting out......it was GROSS.  :P

So from then on i would use his head to knock out the loose glass first  :D
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 30, 2011, 06:40:32 AM
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 30, 2011, 06:42:45 AM
You bring up some great points , his back was a severe liability his fans underestimate this often , it was lacking in proportionate thickness for a bodybuilder 280lbs it lacked depth , detail and width of and density , he looked outstanding from the front and looked like complete shit from the back , he looked like two completely different bodybuilders. 

Mind you Ronnie is 247lbs and Flex even lighter probably 230lbs and yet look like they outweigh Nasser by much more , Nasser is the heaviest by  far , like I said one bodybuilder from the front and another from the back.


ouch
did gh15 even train back......
someone needed to strap him to the deadlift station and chinning bar...
how was he gonna beat dorian when he had no back
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Bam-bam on August 30, 2011, 08:37:08 AM
FLEX......Far superior to Nasser..

Flex had a world class physique, cartoonish proportions in regards to muscle shape and bellies.

Nasser was a ham and egger, basically a gym-rat physique that was taken to it's absolute limit  with insane amounts of drugs, synthol and esciline.


QUICK.....name a standout bodypart on Nasser...


can't do it, because nothing stands out......he was just BIG


yes but what Olympia edition Flex deserved to win? We all agree 97 was Nassers. So I would say Nasser got closer to the Sandow than Flex ever did.
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: bigbobs on August 30, 2011, 09:19:43 AM

yes but what Olympia edition Flex deserved to win? We all agree 97 was Nassers. So I would say Nasser got closer to the Sandow than Flex ever did.

x2 - 97 Olympia was a contraversial one - no Mr. O where Flex got runner up was as contraversial.
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Agent69 on August 30, 2011, 09:32:19 AM
FLEX WAS THE CLOSEST-NASSER  BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A MESS..
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Parker on August 30, 2011, 09:35:52 AM
x2 - 97 Olympia was a contraversial one - no Mr. O where Flex got runner up was as contraversial.
Flex lost to Ronnie  via  1 point, did Nasser lose to Dorian by 1 point?


Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 30, 2011, 12:29:26 PM
Flex lost to Ronnie  via  1 point, did Nasser lose to Dorian by 1 point?




He never came close , Flex was eons closer than Nasser ever was , to many people on here talking out of emotion.

And Flex lost to Ronnie in 98 by 3 points


Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Parker on August 30, 2011, 12:43:04 PM
He never came close , Flex was eons closer than Nasser ever was , to many people on here talking out of emotion.

And Flex lost to Ronnie in 98 by 3 points



Thank you for correcting me...
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 30, 2011, 01:47:22 PM
x2 - 97 Olympia was a contraversial one - no Mr. O where Flex got runner up was as contraversial.

It was only controversial to Nasser fans because they thought he was close , reality dictated otherwise , people bitch about Dorian's triceps and torn biceps but are perfectly willing to overlook Nasser's entire missing back , lets not be hypocrites

I will concede Nasser did look better than Dorian in the standing relaxed from the front , front double biceps shot and maybe the ab-thigh but that's it
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: OTHstrong on August 30, 2011, 10:18:48 PM
Flex lost to Ronnie  via  1 point, did Nasser lose to Dorian by 1 point?



No, not 1 point, 3 points but that's not why Flex came closer.

Flex came closer cause he was actually ahead of Ronnie after pre-judging
Flex came runner up 3 times and Nasser only once
Flex was runner up in 2 era's vs Nasser 1 era

Stupid question, Flex was closer BIG TIME, not even close
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: the_swami on August 30, 2011, 10:49:29 PM
Nasser truly deserved the O in 1996 and 97
Nasser could have been awarded the 0 in 98 also, especially with ROnnie's HUGE gyno and lack of calves. Flex in 98 was overrated.

Flex should have been awarded the O in 93, on that day he was superior to the all time best Yates
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Parker on August 30, 2011, 10:52:43 PM
Nasser truly deserved the O in 1996 and 97
Nasser could have been awarded the 0 in 98 also, especially with ROnnie's HUGE gyno and lack of calves. Flex in 98 was overrated.

Flex should have been awarded the O in 93, on that day he was superior to the all time best Yates
Ronnie had gyno on one pec, but he far outdistanced and out conditioned Nasser...Nasser couldn't compete with Ronnie or Flex from the front or back in 98
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: el numero uno on August 31, 2011, 11:34:09 AM

nasser = nassulin

 :D
Title: Re: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser?
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 31, 2011, 11:37:33 AM
He never came close , Flex was eons closer than Nasser ever was , to many people on here talking out of emotion.




Flex looked like he just shit his pants when the winner was named...really funny.