Author Topic: So who got closer to winning an Olympia, Flex or Nasser? (Read 4754 times)

Bam-bam · « **on:** August 29, 2011, 08:37:19 PM »

Gotta be Nasser since even some of the biggest Dorian fanboys admit Nasser pretty much deserved it in 1997.

All hail the Pharaoh of Muscle!

el numero uno · « **Reply #1 on:** August 29, 2011, 08:57:38 PM »

jaejonna · « **Reply #2 on:** August 29, 2011, 09:18:25 PM »

Flex was considered the heir apparent , Nassar was never really a thought or notion....

kiwiol · « **Reply #3 on:** August 29, 2011, 09:39:37 PM »

I'd have to say the 98 AC or 99 Olympia version of Flex would be hard to beat by any version of Nasser. So Flex, IMO.

closeline · « **Reply #4 on:** August 30, 2011, 01:09:53 AM »

flex by far

nasser = shittiest back in Mr O top 6 competitor s history

nasser = nassulin, on of the worst insulin abuser ever

nasser = along with ernie taylor the worst syntol abuser ever steped on Mr O stage

nasser = one of the worst poser ever

nasser = not only one great bodypart

flex would have won 1993-1998 if judges picked his look over dorians blocky physique in 1993, what actually would have saved bodybuilding from going to shithole-cult where it is today

Karpaasi · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2011, 01:20:39 AM »

Nasser was more closer. Flex always had bad luck to compete against legendary shapes of Dorian&Ronnie(1993, 1998, 1999) when he was second.

Nasser almost caught Dorian in 1997 when Doz's injuries piled up.

Meso_z · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2011, 01:37:40 AM »

Nasser.

No way Flex could beat Ronnie.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #7 on:** August 30, 2011, 01:46:21 AM »

Quote from: Bam-bam on August 29, 2011, 08:37:19 PM

Gotta be Nasser since even some of the biggest Dorian fanboys admit Nasser pretty much deserved it in 1997.

All hail the Pharaoh of Muscle!

Flex did in 98 , Nasser was never gonna win

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #8 on:** August 30, 2011, 01:53:56 AM »

Quote from: closeline on August 30, 2011, 01:09:53 AM

flex by far

nasser = shittiest back in Mr O top 6 competitor s history

nasser = nassulin, on of the worst insulin abuser ever

nasser = along with ernie taylor the worst syntol abuser ever steped on Mr O stage

nasser = one of the worst poser ever

nasser = not only one great bodypart

flex would have won 1993-1998 if judges picked his look over dorians blocky physique in 1993, what actually would have saved bodybuilding from going to shithole-cult where it is today

You bring up some great points , his back was a severe liability his fans underestimate this often , it was lacking in proportionate thickness for a bodybuilder 280lbs it lacked depth , detail and width of and density , he looked outstanding from the front and looked like complete shit from the back , he looked like two completely different bodybuilders.

Mind you Ronnie is 247lbs and Flex even lighter probably 230lbs and yet look like they outweigh Nasser by much more , Nasser is the heaviest by far , like I said one bodybuilder from the front and another from the back.

Parker · « **Reply #9 on:** August 30, 2011, 02:44:40 AM »

Quote from: Meso_z on August 30, 2011, 01:37:40 AM

Nasser.

No way Flex could beat Ronnie.

Had Flex been in condition in 98, he might have won...Ronnie came in condition, Flex didn't, and Flex couldn't count on his "shape" to save hm this time.
Flex knew Ronnie was capable of beating him, it happened in 96, so Flex thinking he could waltz in and just take it, was a stupid notion.

On prophetic cartoon appeared in M&F that yr, it had Flex, Shawn, Ronnie, I believe Kevin and Nasser all fighting for the
Mr. O (really grabbig for it), and how did the placings turn out?

If anything, Flex had more #2s than Nasser did, and according to the Musclemag rankings at the time, he was ranked higher.

Also, Nasser was dominant during the Dorian era, not so with the Ronnie era, although capturing the AC in 99. had Flex not gotten sick, he'd last as long as Ronnie and still be #2, as Cutler didn't have Flex's shape nor back.

The objective and subjective answer to the OP's question would be Flex.

lesaucer · « **Reply #10 on:** August 30, 2011, 04:00:08 AM »

nasser destroys flex. but the one who really got closer to winning is levrone

mass243 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 30, 2011, 04:20:32 AM »

Flex all the way.

Look at the Olympia where Ronnie won his first Sandow... everyone have said Flex should have won. It must have been sooooooooo close.

I like Big Ron and he is the greatest of all times but damn, Flex looked better at that show.

Parker · « **Reply #12 on:** August 30, 2011, 05:29:44 AM »

Quote from: lesaucer on August 30, 2011, 04:00:08 AM

nasser destroys flex. but the one who really got closer to winning is levrone

Yeah, that pic in 98 sure does show that, doesn't it?
To be honest, Nasser in the 90s, from 95-97 faired better than Flex did, when it came to the Mr. O.

closeline · « **Reply #13 on:** August 30, 2011, 05:43:55 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on August 30, 2011, 01:53:56 AM

You bring up some great points , his back was a severe liability his fans underestimate this often , it was lacking in proportionate thickness for a bodybuilder 280lbs it lacked depth , detail and width of and density , he looked outstanding from the front and looked like complete shit from the back , he looked like two completely different bodybuilders.

Mind you Ronnie is 247lbs and Flex even lighter probably 230lbs and yet look like they outweigh Nasser by much more , Nasser is the heaviest by far , like I said one bodybuilder from the front and another from the back.

in the pics you posted you can clearly see two points i mentioned

- nassers biceps (already torn) and shoulders were oil filled to the 10th degree -> looked really bad
- his back screams fat from within leading to palumboism and tried to fix with a gallon of esiclene
its a shame that his back looked 10times better in 1994 before he gained 30lbs on severe insulin abuse while loosing his musclequality due to the fat pushing within the muscle

Big Worm · « **Reply #14 on:** August 30, 2011, 05:46:04 AM »

Quote from: Bam-bam on August 29, 2011, 08:37:19 PM

Gotta be Nasser since even some of the biggest Dorian fanboys admit Nasser pretty much deserved it in 1997.

All hail the Pharaoh of Muscle!

Nasser..? Sorry bro.. Flex was the obvious,after Doeran left.. Nasser wasn't even in peoples thoughts.

yates fan · « **Reply #15 on:** August 30, 2011, 05:49:23 AM »

in reality flex came closer as far as a score is concerned,at the 98 olympia ronnie only beat flex by one point.flex was ahead of ronnie at one point in this contest,it took the judges awhile to realize what kinda shape ronnie was in.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #16 on:** August 30, 2011, 06:00:29 AM »

FLEX......Far superior to Nasser..

Flex had a world class physique, cartoonish proportions in regards to muscle shape and bellies.

Nasser was a ham and egger, basically a gym-rat physique that was taken to it's absolute limit with insane amounts of drugs, synthol and esciline.

QUICK.....name a standout bodypart on Nasser...

can't do it, because nothing stands out......he was just BIG

dr.chimps · « **Reply #17 on:** August 30, 2011, 06:03:04 AM »

Quote from: Groink on August 30, 2011, 06:00:29 AM

FLEX......Far superior to Nasser..

Flex had a world class physique, cartoonish proportions in regards to muscle shape and bellies.

Nasser was a ham and egger, basically a gym-rat physique that was taken to it's absolute limit with insane amounts of drugs, synthol and esciline.

QUICK.....name a standout bodypart on Nasser...

can't do it, because nothing stands out......he was just BIG

LOL. The Spider Rico of the BB'ing world.

Big Worm · « **Reply #18 on:** August 30, 2011, 06:04:22 AM »

Quote from: Groink on August 30, 2011, 06:00:29 AM

FLEX......Far superior to Nasser..

QUICK.....name a standout bodypart on Nasser...

can't do it, because nothing stands out......he was just BIG

His lazy eye. !

BIG_STI · « **Reply #19 on:** August 30, 2011, 06:08:17 AM »

Quote from: Groink on August 30, 2011, 06:00:29 AM

FLEX......Far superior to Nasser..

Flex had a world class physique, cartoonish proportions in regards to muscle shape and bellies.

Nasser was a ham and egger, basically a gym-rat physique that was taken to it's absolute limit with insane amounts of drugs, synthol and esciline.

QUICK.....name a standout bodypart on Nasser...

can't do it, because nothing stands out......he was just BIG

All I ever noticed was his hairline get worse and worse from Olympia to Olympia

MB · « **Reply #20 on:** August 30, 2011, 06:17:54 AM »

Nasser received a lot of gift placings. He was easy to pick apart, especially from the back. In a competitive era like the mid '90's, Nasser had no business beating Flex, Shawn, Ronnie, Kevin, Francois, etc.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #21 on:** August 30, 2011, 06:38:07 AM »

One time i was throwing Nasser out of a window and a piece of glass caught his rear delt, and this weird gooey shit started spurting out......it was GROSS.

So from then on i would use his head to knock out the loose glass first

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #22 on:** August 30, 2011, 06:40:32 AM »

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 30, 2011, 06:42:45 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on August 30, 2011, 01:53:56 AM

You bring up some great points , his back was a severe liability his fans underestimate this often , it was lacking in proportionate thickness for a bodybuilder 280lbs it lacked depth , detail and width of and density , he looked outstanding from the front and looked like complete shit from the back , he looked like two completely different bodybuilders.

Mind you Ronnie is 247lbs and Flex even lighter probably 230lbs and yet look like they outweigh Nasser by much more , Nasser is the heaviest by far , like I said one bodybuilder from the front and another from the back.

ouch
did gh15 even train back......
someone needed to strap him to the deadlift station and chinning bar...
how was he gonna beat dorian when he had no back

Bam-bam · « **Reply #24 on:** August 30, 2011, 08:37:08 AM »

Quote from: Groink on August 30, 2011, 06:00:29 AM

FLEX......Far superior to Nasser..

Flex had a world class physique, cartoonish proportions in regards to muscle shape and bellies.

Nasser was a ham and egger, basically a gym-rat physique that was taken to it's absolute limit with insane amounts of drugs, synthol and esciline.

QUICK.....name a standout bodypart on Nasser...

can't do it, because nothing stands out......he was just BIG

yes but what Olympia edition Flex deserved to win? We all agree 97 was Nassers. So I would say Nasser got closer to the Sandow than Flex ever did.