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to put the weights back?
told 2 chumps yesterday "don't forget your weights" as they had left a bunch of weights on and around the bench for the 953513th time
they got very angry and defensive "WHAT?!"
i said "your weights, put them back after using"
they said "the staff will tell me what to do"
i said "ok i'll be sure to remind them"
they were 20 and 25 years old type gym rats who still bench 80kg after years of leaving the weights on the bench so i couldn't restrain myself from doing this
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Did it lead to any fist-in-the-dentals activity ?
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Did it lead to any fist-in-the-dentals activity ?
no, like i said i first assessed their age and strength levels before doing this
would not do this to an advanced lifter or older person out of respect
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I'm torn here. I always put my weights back and hate it when others don't, but if I didn't put my weights back and someone who didn't work at the gym tried telling me what to do I wouldn't be too receptive.
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I'm torn here. I always put my weights back and hate it when others don't, but if I didn't put my weights back and someone who didn't work at the gym tried telling me what to do I wouldn't be too receptive.
Well this is true, except when you're gonna use the bench yourself next. Were you, PNS ?
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Well this is true, except when you're gonna use the bench yourself next. Were you, PNS ?
no i wasn't going to use the bench, but the point is there is only one bench so everybody wants to use it
very often i have to unrack a lot of shit before being able to use it so i just sort of raged at these guys because apart from this issue they are pricks
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IMHO heavier db's shouldnt be racked and just lay on the floor like on metroflex. It's really easy to get hurt trying to put it back especially that I don't weight much more than them...
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to put the weights back?
told 2 chumps yesterday "don't forget your weights" as they had left a bunch of weights on and around the bench for the 953513th time
they got very angry and defensive "WHAT?!"
i said "your weights, put them back after using"
they said "the staff will tell me what to do"
i said "ok i'll be sure to remind them"
they were 20 and 25 years old type gym rats who still bench 80kg after years of leaving the weights on the bench so i couldn't restrain myself from doing this
Wow, you must be a beast. I hope you're proud of yourself.
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Wow, you must be a beast. I hope you're proud of yourself.
compared to them i certainly am
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Wow, you must be a beast. I hope you're proud of yourself.
His name says it all. Really no need for contemplation.
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I'm torn here. I always put my weights back and hate it when others don't, but if I didn't put my weights back and someone who didn't work at the gym tried telling me what to do I wouldn't be too receptive.
I know what you mean but most of the people that work there are pussies and don't say shit. And even the one's that do can't be everywhere. It just pisses me off when you can't find one of the dumbbells to match your pair only to find it somewhere on the other end of the gym. And how about those tools who pile on the plates on the leg press for their 1/8 range of motion presses and then leave the dozen plates on the machine. Seriously, just put shit back.
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Ahh, they are young. As a youngster you do nothing somebody tells you ;D
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If they are fat, it's allowed to hit, slap or kick them, even if they put away the weights immaculately..
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young and old, everyone does it for the most part... don't know if it's laziness, self absorbed cluelessness, they think it's no big deal, they think "that's what the staff is here for! or what...
i mean to me the thing is: would they enjoy having to move SOMEONE ELSE'S weights around or off? OF COURSE NOT! BUT YET they don't put their weights away... i defines logic really...
i guess people are just that clueless, self absorbed, etcetera... it's like the analogy of you ask 100 people about people who drive and talk on their cell phones at the same time and 99.999 % of them will say " yeah, people can't drive and talk on their cell phones, they are horrible!, etcetera... and yet...
these are the same people WHO DRIVE AND TALK ON THEIR CELL PHONES? what did they mean " WELL, I MEAN EVERYONE ELSE NOT ME! DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO TALK AND DRIVE!?
strange how humans are like this i wonder if there is a exact psychological word/definition for this? 100 people will say "no one knows how to drive" well, obviously some of those 100 people who say that are ones who don't know how to drive!
anyway, personally i put my weights away, because i'm not lazy and i do what i'm supposed to do following the gym rules... heck, i hate it when you go to a movie theatre and people can't even pick up their empty popcorn and soda containers and throw them away in the trash cans provided as they leave....
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If they are fat, it's allowed to hit, slap or kick them, even if they put away the weights immaculately..
8)
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Sometimes I wish I ran a gym so that I could properly educate kids about this.
Instead of the fag alarm like at Planet Fitness, there should be some kind of alarm for people who don't rack weights.
They'd be called to the center of the gym and berated ... until they learn their lesson.
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Bash there skulls with the pink ladies DB's
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to put the weights back?
told 2 chumps yesterday "don't forget your weights" as they had left a bunch of weights on and around the bench for the 953513th time
they got very angry and defensive "WHAT?!"
i said "your weights, put them back after using"
they said "the staff will tell me what to do"
i said "ok i'll be sure to remind them"
they were 20 and 25 years old type gym rats who still bench 80kg after years of leaving the weights on the bench so i couldn't restrain myself from doing this
Problem 1 - No one knows or teaches gym etiquette anymore.
Problem 2 - The owners or management of the gym should give 3 warnings at the most about putting weights back or get kicked out....period.
Example, if you've ever been to Golds Venice you know the entire gym is a complete disaster with unmatched dumbbells thrown all over the floor yet the management does not give two shit on how the gym is maintained.
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to put the weights back?
told 2 chumps yesterday "don't forget your weights" as they had left a bunch of weights on and around the bench for the 953513th time
they got very angry and defensive "WHAT?!"
i said "your weights, put them back after using"
they said "the staff will tell me what to do"
i said "ok i'll be sure to remind them"
they were 20 and 25 years old type gym rats who still bench 80kg after years of leaving the weights on the bench so i couldn't restrain myself from doing this
I usually go into a Passive Aggressive meltdown yelling at no one in particular about people not putting their weights away while I put them away.
After I get them in their proper places I do a few most musculars in the mirror while hissing and then go about my workout.
The gym usually stays pretty picked up for a couple weeks after that.
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I usually go into a Passive Aggressive meltdown yelling at no one in particular about people not putting their weights away while I put them away.
After I get them in their proper places I do a few most musculars in the mirror while hissing and then go about my workout.
The gym usually stays pretty picked up for a couple weeks after that.
this would just reinforce the idea that it's unnecessary to put back the weights and some idiot will do it for u
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this would just reinforce the idea that it's unnecessary to put back the weights and some idiot will do it for u
What did you call me >:(
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When ever someone for example is on a bench and I ask if I could work in, the right answer would be "of course" but once in a while you get the a-hole who is doing a "circuit" and says "sure, I just have 2 more sets then you can have it" and those two sets takes 10min, thats when I lose it and start braking when they had on there, when that happens.....then they could work in with me.
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One time a group of 6 or 7 guys were talking shit about people not leaving weights and then they left and left all the weights everywhere but I didn't say anything because they were a bunch of scary guidos :-X
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When ever someone for example is on a bench and I ask if I could work in, the right answer would be "of course" but once in a while you get the a-hole who is doing a "circuit" and says "sure, I just have 2 more sets then you can have it" and those two sets takes 10min, thats when I lose it and start braking when they had on there, when that happens.....then they could work in with me.
That's why i NEVER ask if i can work in.
Hate when it happens to me, some dork coming up, asks if he can "do one set inbetween", then sits down and it takes him 5 minutes to perform 3 crappy reps.
I rest only 30-60 seconds between sets, no way anyone can come inbetween.
I also never ask to work in, i want the machine/weights/bench all for me, if the bench is occupied, there are enough alternatives, dumbell presses, flies, pec deck, machine press, hammer strength....
I fucking hate people waiting for you to finish a set or sneak around the machine for minutes eyeing you to finish.
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When ever someone for example is on a bench and I ask if I could work in, the right answer would be "of course" but once in a while you get the a-hole who is doing a "circuit" and says "sure, I just have 2 more sets then you can have it" and those two sets takes 10min, thats when I lose it and start braking when they had on there, when that happens.....then they could work in with me.
Coach - Please answer my question in this thread - "Leg press 1500lbs Kandahar, Afghanistan NATO gym"
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When ever someone for example is on a bench and I ask if I could work in, the right answer would be "of course" but once in a while you get the a-hole who is doing a "circuit" and says "sure, I just have 2 more sets then you can have it" and those two sets takes 10min, thats when I lose it and start braking when they had on there, when that happens.....then they could work in with me.
The only time I can think of that working in doesn't work is when there is a time issue and the weight difference is large. Or if one person has sea monkey issues.
But to PNS, I think you telling those kids to put their weights away was fine. I think there is a lot to how you approach and word things that will determine a reaction. If you mention it like they must be unaware of the "rules" and you are trying to help them you'll get a more favorable reaction imo.
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If you mention it like they must be unaware of the "rules" and you are trying to help them you'll get a more favorable reaction imo.
i don't think so, then they'll just yes me and do the same thing over and over thinking i have no spine
maybe now they will still do it but i will tell the manager
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Problem 1 - No one knows or teaches gym etiquette anymore.
Problem 2 - The owners or management of the gym should give 3 warnings at the most about putting weights back or get kicked out....period.
Example, if you've ever been to Golds Venice you know the entire gym is a complete disaster with unmatched dumbbells thrown all over the floor yet the management does not give two shit on how the gym is maintained.
I remember back in the good old days when you didn't have to teach common courtesy and I was training at Mits Kawashima's (Arnold's long time friend) hole in the wall gym. That little Jap would yell at you from his desk if you didn't put the weights away. Hell, he'd even yell at you if he saw you doing an exercise wrong. Don't even think about piling on plates on the leg press and doing 1/8 presses. I remember when Pumping Iron came out and everybody started doing cable cross overs because we all sighed in awe like little girls watching Arnold do them. When Mits saw me with my shallow chest and prison concentration camp built body he just shook his head in disgust and said, "Oh shit, another one who thinks he'll be the next Arnold doing cables. Hey Pellius, maybe when you get some meat on those bones you can do cables. For now try lifting weights for a change (pointing at the bench).
Fucker would get sued nowadays. As much as I hate getting old I wouldn't trade those days for anything. Certainly not for being young in today's generation.
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When ever someone for example is on a bench and I ask if I could work in, the right answer would be "of course" but once in a while you get the a-hole who is doing a "circuit" and says "sure, I just have 2 more sets then you can have it" and those two sets takes 10min, thats when I lose it and start braking when they had on there, when that happens.....then they could work in with me.
Remember the days when working in was just part of the program and asking a complete stranger to spot was par for the course. It's when gyms all became Health Clubs and they started to include air condition and "cardio" equipment that things all went to hell. My gym has one squat rack but nine TVs.
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Problem 1 - No one knows or teaches gym etiquette anymore.
Problem 2 - The owners or management of the gym should give 3 warnings at the most about putting weights back or get kicked out....period.
Example, if you've ever been to Golds Venice you know the entire gym is a complete disaster with unmatched dumbbells thrown all over the floor yet the management does not give two shit on how the gym is maintained.
Problem 2 - We do, u can be suspended on your second warning for not pitting weights back or stripping a bar, and it's enforced on everyone, no matter how long a member
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That's why i NEVER ask if i can work in.
Hate when it happens to me, some dork coming up, asks if he can "do one set inbetween", then sits down and it takes him 5 minutes to perform 3 crappy reps.
I rest only 30-60 seconds between sets, no way anyone can come inbetween.
I also never ask to work in, i want the machine/weights/bench all for me, if the bench is occupied, there are enough alternatives, dumbell presses, flies, pec deck, machine press, hammer strength....
I fucking hate people waiting for you to finish a set or sneak around the machine for minutes eyeing you to finish.
I avoid as much as possible asking someone if I can work in. But when I see some ass clown tapping away at his cell and/or BS-ing with his friend I ask how many more sets he has. He'll usually say two or three and then start working. That's when I'll smile and say, half jokingly and in a friendly manner, "Hah, I knew that would get you moving again."
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First off dont turn the request into a physical/verbal contest. Inform the guys that it's a major health code/business insurance violation, and you are asserting the law of the land.
If they don't comply inform staff/management you will go to inspector/regulator if they don't loose there memberships. Make sure you stay consistent and don't bluff.
If that can't be done, simply get to a higher end gym, relocate to a better country. Because the proper channels do exist for this stuff with smallest amount of effort. I've learned from working with an on the job injury, the system is there but to many people make idle bluffs without follow through. If that seems to much work your just on an ego trip and should stfu.
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I remember back in the good old days when you didn't have to teach common courtesy and I was training at Mits Kawashima's (Arnold's long time friend) hole in the wall gym. That little Jap would yell at you from his desk if you didn't put the weights away. Hell, he'd even yell at you if he saw you doing an exercise wrong. Don't even think about piling on plates on the leg press and doing 1/8 presses. I remember when Pumping Iron came out and everybody started doing cable cross overs because we all sighed in awe like little girls watching Arnold do them. When Mits saw me with my shallow chest and prison concentration camp built body he just shook his head in disgust and said, "Oh shit, another one who thinks he'll be the next Arnold doing cables. Hey Pellius, maybe when you get some meat on those bones you can do cables. For now try lifting weights for a change (pointing at the bench).
Fucker would get sued nowadays. As much as I hate getting old I wouldn't trade those days for anything. Certainly not for being young in today's generation.
Hell yes.....I remember going to World Gym in the late 70's-early 80's and Joe Gold had an upstairs office over looking the floor with PA and sliding window, the man tolerated no shit from anyone, he would yelling at people all the time to put the weights away, if he had to ask more than once you were gone, no if, and's or but's about it. And when Joe wasn't there, Zabo and Ed Guliani were there to take over.
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I'm sure Squadfather would have handled it the right way.
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I usually go into a Passive Aggressive meltdown yelling at no one in particular about people not putting their weights away while I put them away.
After I get them in their proper places I do a few most musculars in the mirror while hissing and then go about my workout.
The gym usually stays pretty picked up for a couple weeks after that.
;D
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I do not care if people do not put DB's or plates back as long as they are not thrown in middle of floor. In a pile or leaning against a wall or bench etc if fine by me
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The worst really is that i have never been to a gym where the trainers were able to teach exercises correctly or even dared to correct members.
Problem no 1 is that trainers don't really know by themselves and 2nd that mostly they are underpaid twinky student bitches who don't give a shit and don't look like they work out.
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Did it lead to any fist-in-the-dentals activity ?
no, but probably lead to some cock-in-the-dentals activity
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We've had this topic before, any time I have reminded someone to put their weights away, they always do, if you are polite about it nobody is going to give you shit, if you act like an ass about it, expect that attitude in return. Quite simple really.