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Title: When did America stop producing good music?
Post by: Swede! on September 05, 2011, 09:14:58 AM
what year??
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Post by: bradistani on September 05, 2011, 09:17:22 AM
when did sweden ?  ;)
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Post by: Swede! on September 05, 2011, 09:21:43 AM
Great valid response! Because most of what we see in the media these days are swedish artists and back in the day it was mostly only swedish rock everywhere
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Post by: dr.chimps on September 05, 2011, 09:22:24 AM
what year??
When did rap start.  8)
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Post by: wild willie on September 05, 2011, 09:23:54 AM
what year??
IMHO 1992/1993
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Post by: Swede! on September 05, 2011, 09:24:10 AM
When did rap start.  8)

When did the focus move away from Talent to "shock factor" ?
When did the focus go away from people actually Playing Instruments to No one playing Anything?

When did "we" get more impressed with people that has Less talent? Compared to those that have more..
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Post by: Natural Man on September 05, 2011, 09:27:19 AM
Computers.

Also what s your problem with america this, america that...for someone who despises americans you sure seem to care a lot about everything they do or dont...
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Post by: G_Thang on September 05, 2011, 09:28:21 AM
When did rap start.  8)

You could be right, chimps.  I stopped listening to music after i heard run DMC, Cool Mo Dee and the first generation of so called Rappers.  I say, "so called", because Cab Calloway and those ole school guys did something similar to rap but they were still musicians.

exception to the rule was Curtis Mantronix.



Two hot brothers (no homo)
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 05, 2011, 09:29:29 AM
when did sweden ?  ;)

Swedish metal is the best in the world imo.

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Post by: bradistani on September 05, 2011, 09:29:55 AM
Great valid response! Because most of what we see in the media these days are swedish artists and back in the day it was mostly only swedish rock everywhere

really  ???

haven't abba split  ???
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Post by: Swede! on September 05, 2011, 09:30:08 AM
Computers.

Also what s your problem with america this, america that...for someone who despises americans you sure seem to care a lot about everything they do or dont...

If I was on a swedish forum I guess I would start threads about sweden....
despises americans? lol
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Post by: dr.chimps on September 05, 2011, 09:30:28 AM
When did the focus move away from Talent to "shock factor" ?
When did the focus go away from people actually Playing Instruments to No one playing Anything?

When did "we" get more impressed with people that has Less talent? Compared to those that have more..
Shock factor's always been in music. Wagner loved it. Your second point about actually playing instruments (and being driven to play) is bang on, tho.  :'(
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Post by: Swede! on September 05, 2011, 09:31:22 AM
musicians.

Thats the word I was looking for. When did people stop being musicians?
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Post by: Swede! on September 05, 2011, 09:31:56 AM
Shock factor's always been in music. Wagner loved it. Your second point about actually playing instruments (and being driven to play) is bang on, tho.  :'(

Shock factor With some talent though?
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 05, 2011, 09:34:00 AM








American metal is lame, for the most part.

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Post by: bradistani on September 05, 2011, 09:34:18 AM
idol, x-factor. the funny thing is, for the most part, the winners are forgotten within a month or two of winning  ::)
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Post by: dr.chimps on September 05, 2011, 09:35:43 AM
Shock factor With some talent though?
Gimmicks/shock are fine, but if you have some tangible talent, music-wise, that's the lasting, real thing.

Heard on the radio yesterday: the Kiss cruise. Yes, you can take a cruise with Gene and Paul, and celebrate the triumph of spectacle over art. Book today, Swede.  ;D

 
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Post by: Swede! on September 05, 2011, 09:38:20 AM
Gimmicks/shock are fine, but if you have some tangible talent, music-wise, that's the lasting, real thing.

Heard on the radio yesterday: the Kiss cruise. Yes, you can take a cruise with Gene and Paul, and celebrate the triumph of spectacle over art. Book today, Swede.  ;D

 

haha. When I was a kid every friday in school, I guess in like second grade or something, we had something special going on in the class, some times playing a band, and sometime someone would tell stories etc.

Anyway, one time me and a few friends did a kiss "concert"  ;D painting and everything. I was the drummer lol.

After I saw this 1995 at 6 yr old I was hooked.



I ofc looked up the Real band right after lol.

edit* lol, first comment has the exact same story but he was 7 (the comment section is Packed with the same story apparently)

edit 2* wow, that sounded better back in the day lol
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Post by: dr.chimps on September 05, 2011, 09:44:51 AM
haha. When I was a kid every friday in school, I guess in like second grade or something, we had something special going on in the class, some times playing a band, and sometime someone would tell stories etc.

Anyway, one time me and a few friends did a kiss "concert"  ;D painting and everything. I was the drummer lol.

After I saw this 1995 at 6 yr old I was hooked.



I ofc looked up the Real band right after lol.

edit* lol, first comment has the exact same story but he was 7
That's cool. One of the first records (LPs), if not the first I ever bought, was Kiss Alive. I still remember the look on my Mom's face when I brought that one home. Maybe the same reaction parents had when kids brought home Beatles, Presley or 'race' music?     
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Post by: Tito24 on September 05, 2011, 10:01:23 AM
i truly believe that america should be strucked with a disaster of biblical proportions to have it produce good music again. what a shit country. filthy rich inthahood boys dominating young kids minds.
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 05, 2011, 10:05:19 AM
That's cool. One of the first records (LPs), if not the first I ever bought, was Kiss Alive. I still remember the look on my Mom's face when I brought that one home. Maybe the same reaction parents had when kids brought home Beatles, Presley or 'race' music?     

Destroyer was one of my first, then Alive.  ;D
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Post by: dr.chimps on September 05, 2011, 10:10:12 AM
Destroyer was one of my first, then Alive.  ;D
Had that one, too. I even remember the Love Gun LP came with a paper 'love gun' you could 'fire.'

/wowsers, i'm old.  ;D
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 05, 2011, 10:12:29 AM
Had that one, too. I even remember the Love Gun LP came with a paper 'love gun' you could 'fire.'

/wowsers, i'm old.  ;D

Yeah, I had the paper gun too...haha!

My friend bought the "Originals", the first 3 Kiss albums in one collection, which we would blast on his parent's 6 foot long console stereo when they weren't home.

Yes, we're getting old. 
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Post by: dr.chimps on September 05, 2011, 10:18:02 AM
Yeah, I had the paper gun too...haha!

My friend bought the "Originals", the first 3 Kiss albums in one collection, which we would blast on his parent's 6 foot long console stereo when they weren't home.

Yes, we're getting old. 
Yes, you are old.   *whistles and walks away*   ;D

/just checked my mp3. four kiss songs between 6 full kinks albums and one the knack song. really feeling old, now. 
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Post by: Tito24 on September 05, 2011, 10:18:54 AM
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Post by: MikMaq on September 05, 2011, 10:22:43 AM
Computers.

Also what s your problem with america this, america that...for someone who despises americans you sure seem to care a lot about everything they do or dont...
The truth.

Computers killed popular music, because that upper crust of people (5-10 percent) stopped buying what the major labels gave them the second they had choice. 15 years ago the industry was led somewhat by people who really had an interest in pushing music forward and were content control for the industry.

Today all the good music is independent, and you need to spend alot of time sifting through shit to get descent stuff, but it's totally there, it's just a quality control mechanism that labels grew up on have flew.

A simple example is in sports if all the top recruiters all fled the country for china, american sports would turn to shit fast. The labels relied on audiophile to lead public opinion and they've been bipassed.
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Post by: bradistani on September 05, 2011, 10:37:19 AM
behold, a saviour has been sent forth

(http://i.imgur.com/Jt8L1.jpg)

Title: Re: When did America stop producing good music?
Post by: dr.chimps on September 05, 2011, 10:43:34 AM
The truth.

Computers killed popular music, because that upper crust of people (5-10 percent) stopped buying what the major labels gave them the second they had choice. 15 years ago the industry was led somewhat by people who really had an interest in pushing music forward and were content control for the industry.

Today all the good music is independent, and you need to spend alot of time sifting through shit to get descent stuff, but it's totally there, it's just a quality control mechanism that labels grew up on have flew.

A simple example is in sports if all the top recruiters all fled the country for china, american sports would turn to shit fast. The labels relied on audiophile to lead public opinion and they've been bipassed.
Uh, no. The music business is about the scummiest out there. Always has been. It's all about making a buck, and if a talented artist needs to get thrown under the wheels to do so, so be it. The musical playing field is littered with dead, compromised or beggared artists. 
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 05, 2011, 10:46:16 AM
Uh, no. The music business is about the scummiest out there. Always has been. It's all about making a buck, and if a talented artist needs to get thrown under the wheels to do so, so be it. The musical playing field is littered with dead, compromised or beggared artists.  

QFT

I was in the 'industry' for 10 years, give or take a year.

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Post by: MikMaq on September 05, 2011, 10:56:32 AM
QFT

I was in the 'industry' for 10 years, give or take a year.


The truth, I grew up in the crossroads era, I was the first kid on my block to have napster, and I've seen the same people who had 200 cd collections in 1995 switch to  downloading everything the second they had options.

There's a myth that true music fans(the people who leaders of public taste) buy cds, when the truth is anyone who's looking for the best music out there 9 times out of 10 go online.
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 05, 2011, 11:02:09 AM
The truth, I grew up in the crossroads era, I was the first kid on my block to have napster, and I've seen the same people who had 200 cd collections in 1995 switch to  downloading everything the second they had options.

There's a myth that true music fans(the people who leaders of public taste) buy cds, when the truth is anyone who's looking for the best music out there 9 times out of 10 go online.

I agree. The internet was the best thing to have happened to the music industry in recent years. Radio has an extremely limited number of artists and songs they are allowed to play due to corporate sponsorship. The net brings music to people that otherwise would have gone unheard in the 'radio days'.

Musicians may have to play live to make a living now ( meaning me haha ), but everyone can now produce their own music and have it reach a worldwide audience.
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Post by: kreator on September 05, 2011, 11:05:17 AM
''caught in the act'', ''backstreet boys'' and ''spice girls'' everything else is history
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 05, 2011, 11:10:48 AM
''caught in the act'', ''backstreet boys'' and ''spice girls'' everything else is history

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Post by: MikMaq on September 05, 2011, 11:12:21 AM
I agree. The internet was the best thing to have happened to the music industry in recent years. Radio has an extremely limited number of artists and songs they are allowed to play due to corporate sponsorship. The net brings music to people that otherwise would have gone unheard in the 'radio days'.

Musicians may have to play live to make a living now ( meaning me haha ), but everyone can now produce their own music and have it reach a worldwide audience.
X2 music is in it's purest and most natural form. It's an golden age, and where all the sellouts/posers, have been cut out of the loop. If you love music, and not the sideline shit(girls, popularity, status) your doing good.
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Post by: Parker on September 05, 2011, 11:12:54 AM
Thats the word I was looking for. When did people stop being musicians?
Check Esperanza Spalding
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Post by: funk51 on September 05, 2011, 11:16:27 AM
what year??
1985.
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Post by: Swede! on September 05, 2011, 11:18:04 AM
Check Esperanza Spalding


Good. I would like her to "pronounce" the words more I cant hear "anything". Is she good at english and thats maby just her style
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Post by: Tito24 on September 05, 2011, 11:24:15 AM
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Post by: Parker on September 05, 2011, 11:27:01 AM
Good. I would like her to "pronounce" the words more I cant hear "anything". Is she good at english and thats maby just her style
She is a Jazz artist, she is Grammy nominated (not sure if she won) but there has been TONS of buzz about her...
Here she is in Copenhagen
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Post by: Tito24 on September 05, 2011, 11:32:49 AM
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Post by: Viking11 on September 05, 2011, 12:07:36 PM
what year??
1999.
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Post by: DroppingPlates on September 05, 2011, 01:47:04 PM
There are still many great artists. Just visit a decent festival, like for example South by Southwest in Austin or Roskilde and Lowlands in Europe.
It's the fucking mainstream media like MTV that screws up the majority with trash like Gaga & Bieber, so blame them!
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Post by: bradistani on September 11, 2011, 06:32:15 PM
There are still many great artists. Just visit a decent festival, like for example South by Southwest in Austin or Roskilde and Lowlands in Europe.
It's the fucking mainstream media like MTV that screws up the majority with trash like Gaga & Bieber, so blame them!


mtv used to be fucking awesome when it first started.. so sad its apparently gone to shit now.. back in the 80s though.. man it was fucking heaven.. great music 24/7.. when i first got cable, mtv fucking ruled...
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Post by: WillGrant on September 11, 2011, 06:33:56 PM
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Americas Got Talent
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Post by: mantronik on September 11, 2011, 06:39:34 PM
You could be right, chimps.  I stopped listening to music after i heard run DMC, Cool Mo Dee and the first generation of so called Rappers.  I say, "so called", because Cab Calloway and those ole school guys did something similar to rap but they were still musicians.

exception to the rule was Curtis Mantronix.



Two hot brothers (no homo)

Thanks for not forgetting about me  :D
It is Kurtis Mantronik or Mantronix (the duo)
Change a few C's into K's though (Kool, Kurtis)
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Post by: bradistani on September 11, 2011, 06:58:53 PM
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Post by: The True Adonis on September 11, 2011, 07:35:14 PM
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Post by: Nirvana on September 11, 2011, 07:57:19 PM
I was drinking whiskey and rye singing it would be the day I died.
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Post by: mass 04 on September 11, 2011, 08:09:30 PM
i truly believe that america should be strucked with a disaster of biblical proportions to have it produce good music again. what a shit country. filthy rich inthahood boys dominating young kids minds.
How about I strike my fist on your jizz covered, pock marked face so hard that Saddam's sand covered pubes that you've been saving under your tongue since the first Gulf War, fly out of your mouth, you picture posting queer?
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Post by: #1 Klaus fan on September 11, 2011, 08:20:22 PM
Black Sabbath might make a reunion, so it's far from completely lost situation.
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Post by: Naggash on September 11, 2011, 08:24:04 PM
when did sweden ?  ;)

Sweden hasn't.

Too many good metal bands still being pumped out of that tiny country.

Beats all the crap the US releases.
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Post by: Danimal77 on September 11, 2011, 08:58:35 PM
what year??

I'd say late 90's (post grunge era).
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Post by: Danimal77 on September 11, 2011, 09:00:13 PM
haha. When I was a kid every friday in school, I guess in like second grade or something, we had something special going on in the class, some times playing a band, and sometime someone would tell stories etc.

Anyway, one time me and a few friends did a kiss "concert"  ;D painting and everything. I was the drummer lol.

After I saw this 1995 at 6 yr old I was hooked.



I ofc looked up the Real band right after lol.

DAMN, I feel old seeing I was 17-18 years old in 1995 and you were only 6!  :'(

edit* lol, first comment has the exact same story but he was 7 (the comment section is Packed with the same story apparently)

edit 2* wow, that sounded better back in the day lol
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Post by: The True Adonis on September 11, 2011, 11:46:18 PM
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Post by: The True Adonis on September 11, 2011, 11:58:14 PM
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Post by: DroppingPlates on September 12, 2011, 02:30:53 AM
mtv used to be fucking awesome when it first started.. so sad its apparently gone to shit now.. back in the 80s though.. man it was fucking heaven.. great music 24/7.. when i first got cable, mtv fucking ruled...

Completely agree. The combination of great artists (with talent!!), vids and VJ's, made me an addicted teenager.
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Post by: Tito24 on September 12, 2011, 02:34:29 AM
mtv was nice in the time when they had beavis and butthead and michael jackson who made mtv. its really disgusting these days. they are co responsable for generation nothing and i hope they will ever be on trial for that.
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Post by: Dr Dutch on September 12, 2011, 02:42:44 AM
Guantanamo Bay will have some rooms available shortly...
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Post by: DroppingPlates on September 12, 2011, 02:48:39 AM
Guantanamo Bay will have some rooms available shortly...

You never know who's the next president, so it's better to give them a neck shot.
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Post by: Dr Dutch on September 12, 2011, 02:49:31 AM
I am The Great Cornholio. I have no TP for my bunghole!

Must be the mucus membrane...
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Post by: gh15 on September 12, 2011, 03:25:38 AM
what year??

the official year was 1992-1993...like one here said,, basicaly when kurt kubain was thinking about suicide... pearljam was great,, metalica was great some of guns and roses was great,, but yes 1992 1993..somewhere there ,, after that it wasa a mess with few lonely googoodolls kind of talents and the few others but really music passed away 1992 1993 for what it is AKA MUSIC

nwo i want you to take a look when music passed away UNOFICIALY ,, i will put here 2 clips,, i will put here ofcourse a genious,, he can call himself even mr poop and he can do whatever he wants ...why? because he is  GENIOUS! so he can be a homo ,, he can be a trans he can take million drugs i dont give balonie,, but! when you see this first clip...you wont listen to it long but just read...at the bottom of the video whats written ,,

face book and youtube ruined everything ,, they ruined the generation they created a mess that will fuck us for many years and probably will bring humans to some kind of end alot further than social end

here is the first clip ,,again read the buttom sentence! smart genious fella! geoge michael is smart geniurous fellas too! good he stop writing this generation is not worth good music when they give the whore spears time of day to balonie around



gh15 approved

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Post by: gh15 on September 12, 2011, 03:26:24 AM
double click it you wil get what i wanted to show you ..^^
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Post by: gh15 on September 12, 2011, 03:28:59 AM
and the actual song..from the movie


THIS ! IS WHEN MUSIC WAS MUSIC ,, THIS! IS WHEN MASTERPIECES WERE CREATED,, AND THIS! IS WHEN BLACK FELLAS COULD ACTUALY WRITE MUSIC!,, this is music my friends....



gh15 approved
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Post by: DroppingPlates on September 12, 2011, 03:39:10 AM
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Post by: gh15 on September 12, 2011, 04:03:58 AM
and this is how you treat generation nothingess whores! pay attention to what he say at the end to her,, put her in her place like the talernted whore wanna be she is ...



gh15 approved

 

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Post by: noc on September 12, 2011, 04:06:25 AM
The UK still produces the best music, which is amazing considering how small and populated it is!
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Post by: gh15 on September 12, 2011, 04:06:39 AM
and this is how you play and perform and write music....here is a good example shnice i was already in prince mode,, fellas you need to breath music,, you need to be able to PLAY INSTRUMENTS,, YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO WRITE IT,, YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO CREATE THE MAGIC WHEN ALL INSTRUMENTS COME TOGETHER,, YOU NEED TO HAVE IT! ONLY WHEN YOU HAVE IT...YOU CAN BECOME FAMOUS...NOT BEFORE MY FRIENDS...
TAKE A LESSON



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Post by: DroppingPlates on September 12, 2011, 04:16:52 AM
and this is how you treat generation nothingess whores! pay attention to what he say at the end to her,, put her in her place like the talernted whore wanna be she is ...



gh15 approved



Haha, good one  ;D
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Post by: Tito24 on September 12, 2011, 05:41:49 AM
and this is how you treat generation nothingess whores! pay attention to what he say at the end to her,, put her in her place like the talernted whore wanna be she is ...



gh15 approved

 



haha so nice, probably the only one not kissing her grandma ass
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Post by: Tito24 on September 12, 2011, 06:29:22 AM
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Post by: Dr Dutch on September 12, 2011, 11:16:59 AM

He became some muslim terrorist, right ?
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Post by: DroppingPlates on September 12, 2011, 12:42:18 PM
He became some muslim terrorist, right ?

Don't listen too much to his music, you may become brainwashed  ::)
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Post by: bigdumbbell on September 12, 2011, 02:36:50 PM
  1970's