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Getbig Main Boards => General Topics => Topic started by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 13, 2011, 06:17:07 AM
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Found some property for really cheap, verizon signal picks up nicely. Area would need to be cleared and a water well drilled but it will be well worth for the price. 2 more years and I'll have freedom from the government and the utility companies.... ;D
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Fully self sufficient?
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Cant you just install a wind turbine in your anus?Should cover all the power you need
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Found some property for really cheap, verizon signal picks up nicely. Area would need to be cleared and a water well drilled but it will be well worth for the price. 2 more years and I'll have freedom from the government and the utility companies.... ;D
Is it big enough for you and your stable of boyfriends?
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Found some property for really cheap, verizon signal picks up nicely. Area would need to be cleared and a water well drilled but it will be well worth for the price. 2 more years and I'll have freedom from the government and the utility companies.... ;D
What type of freedom do you speak of Vincenzo?
Won't you still have to pay Federal Income Tax?
Speak on this Melvin..
"1"
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"off the grid" ::)
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"off the grid" ::)
gird = projects = ghetto
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What you finally got your 40acres and a mule?
Sorry Vince I couldn't resist.
;D
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Fully self sufficient?
Damn right. I've been planning it for a while now but I want to do it in comfort. I've planned just about everything from the power system to the wiring and the homestead design itself. Rather than waiting for the economy to go to shit, I'm taking it upon myself to cover my ass.
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What type of freedom do you speak of Vincenzo?
Won't you still have to pay Federal Income Tax?
Speak on this Melvin..
"1"
i'll go ahead and assume there would be some kind of a property tax as well.
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What type of freedom do you speak of Vincenzo?
Won't you still have to pay Federal Income Tax?
Speak on this Melvin..
"1"
Of course since I'll still run my business but ultimately I intend on getting out of the rat race and have my own private spot in the world
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Of course since I'll still run my business but ultimately I intend on getting out of the rat race and have my own private spot in the world
Vince you're a semi smart guy but seriously come on ... there is no such thing as your own place, you either loose "your" place to the government if the SHTF or to some clan rally.
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Cool Idea Vince. I've been reading a lot about that lately. I wish I had the money to get some of the things I want.
Check out this board there's a lot of cool info
http://www.survivalistboards.com/
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Vince you're a semi smart guy but seriously come on ... there is no such thing as your own place, you either loose "your" place to the government if the SHTF or to some clan rally.
There's thousands of acres of undeveloped land all around the U.S that's available for as little as 200 bucks an acre. Property taxes would only be about 6 dollars a year and they won't even bother collecting that. As far as the Klan is concerned, they are a very small group and they are more focused on hispanics and jews. Besides, they would likely respect a black person who isn't dependent on the government
Even if these undeveloped places, there's still a community of like minded folks and as long as you do your thing, everyone is pretty much left alone.
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There's thousands of acres of undeveloped land all around the U.S that's available for as little as 200 bucks an acre. Property taxes would only be about 6 dollars a year and they won't even bother collecting that. As far as the Klan is concerned, they are a very small group and they are more focused on hispanics and jews. Besides, they would likely respect a black person who isn't dependent on the government
Even if these undeveloped places, there's still a community of like minded folks and as long as you do your thing, everyone is pretty much left alone.
Vince it don't matter when SHTF it will come to basic survival.
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Vince it don't matter when SHTF it will come to basic survival.
That's right, which is why I'm doing what I can to cover myself. Even if SHTF never happens, I can enjoy the peace and sanctity of an isolated area...away from crime, smog, assholes running around, etc along with being able to retire without being in debt.
I would only need to go back to town once every 2-3 months for food and provisions such as propane which is what I intend on using to run my heating, refrigeration, and hot water...likely even much longer as I'll be doing a lot of gardening and hunting. The rest of the homestead will be powered by combination wind, compost methane and solar power system. and should either of those fail, I have designed an direct inverter option to use a generator or even my truck to power the house while I fix whatever is wrong although everything will be under wireless computer control from a laptop so I'll know whether something is wrong or not.
Of course, even with being out there I'll still have every comforts of home with an LCD flat screen TV, PS3, etc because I'll be generating plenty of power to run everything. I don't intend on living like some fucking hobbit or hippie. I'm simply combining modern technology with the old days to have a simplistic or fulfilling life. Human beings weren't meant to spend their lives working themselves to the bone at some shit job to survive, lose their houses, or drive through traffic. They didn't do that shit 130 years ago.
You get your own property, put together your home, generate your own power and water, and no-one can fuck with you. You'll have your freedom
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Good for you man. Ive been looking for 20-50 acres out in south west Va or rural carolina for a few years now. I plan on doing something similar, only having it as a second place, unless the revolution comes.
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Good for you man. Ive been looking for 20-50 acres out in south west Va or rural carolina for a few years now. I plan on doing something similar, only having it as a second place, unless the revolution comes.
I would check in Woodruff, NC for land. I believe you can pick up some acres for about 3500 bucks. Really rural area but quiet.
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Good luck Vince. I share your same sentiment regarding what our lives should really be about and working until we are too old to enjoy our lives is not what life is about.
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If you're getting "off the grid", or getting out of the "rat race", why would you care if your Verizon signal is good?
Isn't cell service a utility?
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If you're getting "off the grid", or getting out of the "rat race", why would you care if your Verizon signal is good?
Isn't cell service a utility?
I still have a business to run but you still need phone service in case of an emergency or to call friends and family. Like I said, I'm not going to become some hobbit or something like that....just want to get away from shit
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I miss Onlyme - he would have had a field day with this thread.
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I miss Onlyme - he would have had a field day with this thread.
Onlyme would yap at any thread or post that I write....and I would tear into his weight and gambling issues as usual so it really doesn't matter. He's long gone and hopefully in peace.
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I still have a business to run but you still need phone service in case of an emergency or to call friends and family. Like I said, I'm not going to become some hobbit or something like that....just want to get away from shit
Shut your mouth 'bout The Shire!
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Seriously Vince good luck sounds like a great idea. But why use propane heat? Why not a wood stove?
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Seriously Vince good luck sounds like a great idea. But why use propane heat? Why not a wood stove?
The propane isn't for heat purposes although I'll have a propane heater for backup. The propane is for running my refrigerator, stove and my Water on Demand 20 gallon heat pump for showers and etc. I'll actually have a wood stove but I'll be using wood pellets primarily because it burns better and I will need it for the composting toilet.
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I still have a business to run but you still need phone service in case of an emergency or to call friends and family. Like I said, I'm not going to become some hobbit or something like that....just want to get away from shit
Fair enough. Good Luck.
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The propane isn't for heat purposes although I'll have a propane heater for backup. The propane is for running my refrigerator, stove and my Water on Demand 20 gallon heat pump for showers and etc. I'll actually have a wood stove but I'll be using wood pellets primarily because it burns better and I will need it for the composting toilet.
You can also use saw dust for the composting toilet.
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You can also use saw dust for the composting toilet.
if its cheaply available, I'll use it as well. The whole purpose in having a composting toilet is to utilize my solar methane generator. Being on a homestead, I'll need to run a lot of power tools which uses up a lot of electricity. One canister should give me about 3 hours of power a day and any excess can be used for the garden.
The whole thing is a big project in the works and there's a lot of planning and decisions to make. I do have the advantage of having a large budget for the venture because of my business income but my overall cost for property and the homestead is not going to exceed 20k which is more than enough for everything. A lot of items are going to be salvaged from RV's and mobile homes and since I used to work for Blevins, I can get a huge discount on item should I wish to get some brand new things
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if its cheaply available, I'll use it as well. The whole purpose in having a composting toilet is to utilize my solar methane generator. Being on a homestead, I'll need to run a lot of power tools which uses up a lot of electricity. One canister should give me about 3 hours of power a day and any excess can be used for the garden.
The whole thing is a big project in the works and there's a lot of planning and decisions to make. I do have the advantage of having a large budget for the venture because of my business income but my overall cost for property and the homestead is not going to exceed 20k which is more than enough for everything. A lot of items are going to be salvaged from RV's and mobile homes and since I used to work for Blevins, I can get a huge discount on item should I wish to get some brand new things
Kinda like how Thoreau did it in Walden. Lots of cheap and used materials.
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Kinda like how Thoreau did it in Walden. Lots of cheap and used materials.
For some of the items, yes. RV equipment is readily available and abundant for sale. However, the main equipment will be new because its essential to have everything running smooth without any issues. Solar panels for example are a lot more powerful than they were a few years ago and the cost is getting down to where its essentially at grid parity with general power sources.
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I would check in Woodruff, NC for land. I believe you can pick up some acres for about 3500 bucks. Really rural area but quiet.
You can go on rural real estate websites, topix, craigslist, atc land etc and find it cheaper that that. there is 32 acres in Coeburn, Va for $22,000 right now, and it's been for sale for over a year that I know of. It's just so far from me(about 8 hrs) that I don't want to buy it. I also saw 55 acres for $40,000($730acre) in SW/central Va as well. I will look into all of this stuff you are talking about, methane power, solar power etc. What is the basic cost for these items?
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You can go on rural real estate websites, topix, craigslist, atc land etc and find it cheaper that that. there is 32 acres in Coeburn, Va for $22,000 right now, and it's been for sale for over a year that I know of. It's just so far from me(about 8 hrs) that I don't want to buy it. I also saw 55 acres for $40,000($730acre) in SW/central Va as well. I will look into all of this stuff you are talking about, methane power, solar power etc. What is the basic cost for these items?
That's the cool part. The electric system is easier and cheaper than ever to design. Right now my plans are for about 6 Deep Cycle Marine Batteries interconnected for power storage, a voltage regulator, computer controller, and a power inverter...all of which will be wired to a circuit breaker box and then to all of the outlets, the same as a house. All of this will be under 700 dollars. I'm not buying the solar panels or wind turbines yet because the price is rapidly dropping on them and in 2 years it won't cost shit along with the newer models will be capable of generating more power. It will give me more than enough power to run air conditioning, stereo, TV, etc all day and night if I wanted to. I think my education from studying engineering in college is really going to pay off because I can build this in my sleep practically. Its not difficult anymore to set up these systems. The solar methane generator is something I haven't priced yet and I may not go with it because there's a lot of issues with the current designs right now which makes it quite dangerous. You can easily kill yourself from the toxic fumes or if it explodes.
As far as land is concerned, I'll only buy about 2 acres at most because I don't have any need for any more. Just a large garden and a hot tub will do for me along with a basketball court or something to stay entertained. The only thing I've really decided on is the homestead and I intend on purchasing a 30 foot Yurt from Pacific Yurts as it will be easier to set up and give me all the modern conveniences of a regular home along with the durability to withstand heavy winters, stormy weather and hot summers.
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It's the ash you put in the toilet, not the wood pellets right?
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It's the ash you put in the toilet, not the wood pellets right?
The toilet I'm looking at uses wood pellets..not sure how it works exactly as composing. Its not that important as the toilets are pretty inexpensive and I just want to be able to take a dump without hooking up a septic system.
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Yeah the "rat race" in Dillsboro has got to be taxing.... that train passing thru twice a day... ::)
Sorry Vince, couldn't resist. ;D
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Yeah the "rat race" in Dillsboro has got to be taxing.... that train passing thru twice a day... ::)
Sorry Vince, couldn't resist. ;D
Dillsboro is the town across from where I live but yes its very peaceful and quiet here....one of the reasons why I moved from Greenville SC. No use in staying in the city after I was laid off from Alltel.
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Dillsboro is the town across from where I live but yes its very peaceful and quiet here....one of the reasons why I moved from Greenville SC. No use in staying in the city after I was laid off from Alltel.
I am absolutely going to do the same thing....been looking at some property between Boone and Hickory. I grew up across the mtn from you in Franklin, and love that area. the lack of jobs in the only reason I don't still live there.
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I've finally decided on the main property and I intend to get a 30" Yurt from Pacific Yurts for my living needs. I'm going to insulate the floors and add hardwood and install a stovepipe. Outside, I'm going to purchase a small storage shed that will house the solar panels, control system, and run an underground wire and direct pipe to the yurt for power needs along with adding three wind turbine generators on the top of the storage shed for additional power...that way it gives me more space to operate . I'll install the breaker box inside the yurt in case of any issues.
My reasoning for the yurt is that it will be easier to move and when the covering wear down after the 15 year warranty, I can simply slip on a brand new one
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Finally a good thread by Vince we'll see what Basile has to say.
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Damn right. I've been planning it for a while now but I want to do it in comfort. I've planned just about everything from the power system to the wiring and the homestead design itself. Rather than waiting for the economy to go to shit, I'm taking it upon myself to cover my ass.
Vinny, do you have any experience with firearms??
Tip = .375 Python, an AK, a good .308 rifle & a Remington/Mossgerg 12 gauge pump action.
That should be enough for most situations. Tip x2 = get a good scope for the .308 ;)
The accuracy international, arctic warfare 50 .308 is a beauty.
PT
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Vinny, do you have any experience with firearms??
Tip = .375 Python, an AK, a good .308 rifle & a Remington/Mossgerg 12 gauge pump action.
That should be enough for most situations. Tip x2 = get a good scope for the .308 ;)
The accuracy international, arctic warfare 50 .308 is a beauty.
PT
Plenty of it from being in the Army to hunting with my uncle and old school buddies. The firearm you use for hunting depends on what you are hunting. A shotgun for example would be best suited for shooting at a flock of birds while a .308 would be for shooting deer and elk. But make sure you get preminum ammunition for your needs and make sure you do a little target practice to center the rifle.
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Alright, got the air conditioning situated. I'm going to use a Solartron air conditioner. It uses Ice Gel Packs as a cooling source while a fan system pull in and out air in addition to filtering it as well doubling as a air purifier so it will take very minimal power to operate. I'll simply get an extra packs and keep them in my propane freezer and change them out as accordingly. Entire system is only 200 bucks and it will cool 400 sq feet for hours on end.
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Self Sufficiency Sucks - Why work so hard for everything - 200 years of Industrial Revolution and you want to go hide in the backwaters somewhere ignoring the rest of the world. Sounds like way too much hard work for little reward. I love the grid & am grateful I can plug in any time.
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Vince you're a semi smart guy but seriously come on ... there is no such thing as your own place, you either loose "your" place to the government if the SHTF or to some clan rally.
True, we dont own our houses, we just borrow them from our children.
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Self Sufficiency Sucks - Why work so hard for everything - 200 years of Industrial Revolution and you want to go hide in the backwaters somewhere ignoring the rest of the world. Sounds like way too much hard work for little reward. I love the grid & am grateful I can plug in any time.
What's backwoods about using solar and wind power?? Its what's going to be used in the future.
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Plenty of it from being in the Army to hunting with my uncle and old school buddies. The firearm you use for hunting depends on what you are hunting. A shotgun for example would be best suited for shooting at a flock of birds while a .308 would be for shooting deer and elk. But make sure you get preminum ammunition for your needs and make sure you do a little target practice to center the rifle.
Thank you Vinny, I would have been lost without that. I would have gone after the ducks with the .308 & tried my luck with Deer/ Elk using the 12 gauge ::)
You do know I am a member of the MRA, right?? http://www.mra.org.in/
PT
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Self Sufficiency Sucks - Why work so hard for everything - 200 years of Industrial Revolution and you want to go hide in the backwaters somewhere ignoring the rest of the world. Sounds like way too much hard work for little reward. I love the grid & am grateful I can plug in any time.
You are a fucking estupido pendejo, I will love it when the grind, grinds you into the floor you fucking moron.
Another Yank who thinks the US is going to be a never ending party ::) good luck with your situation over there, sink further into denial dick head, we will all still sleep at night.
Oh, & your avatar should have an epilepsy warning, fucking spastic, kunt.
PT
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What's backwoods about using solar and wind power?? Its what's going to be used in the future.
We dont live in the future though.
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You are a fucking estupido pendejo, I will love it when the grind, grinds you into the floor you fucking moron.
Another Yank who thinks the US is going to be a never ending party ::) good luck with your situation over there, sink further into denial dick head, we will all still sleep at night.
Oh, & your avatar should have an epilepsy warning, fucking spastic, kunt.
PT
Hi, I am an Australian, happy with life and do not know what you mean by the grind. I just live life day to day and enjoy it. It isnt hard, I dont even have to think about breathing, it just happens. Fantastic, Lifes not that hard, things arent so bad, no need to run away into the woods and hide. You will be OK.
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1. Hi, I am an Australian,
2. Lifes not that hard, things arent so bad,
1.An Australian Billionaire no doubt, who has no need for a 9/5 ::)
2. Sure, how old are you 15?? I guess things are pretty good when you live at moms house & surf all day ;D
GetBIG, sure does attract some juvenile idiots!!
PT
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Thank you Vinny, I would have been lost without that. I would have gone after the ducks with the .308 & tried my luck with Deer/ Elk using the 12 gauge ::)
You do know I am a member of the MRA, right?? http://www.mra.org.in/
PT
I wasn't sure what info you wanted but I seriously don't put much emphasis or care on any particular rifle other than its general use. Accuracy isn't a real factor because you have to center them anyway and I don't have a particular brand favorite.
I've shot a lot of things from M-60's in the Army and etc and I've pretty always considered a gun as just a gun. You center it, shoot it, you reload it, and you clean and take care of it and that's it.
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We dont live in the future though.
We have to make our future and I don't intend to work endlessly like a drone for the rest of my life
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I have said my age before, I am currently 38. I work for myself and life inst so bad. Here are some pics of a personal gym I built myself. Sorry if you find life a grind. But I dont.
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I wasn't sure what info you wanted but I seriously don't put much emphasis or care on any particular rifle other than its general use. Accuracy isn't a real factor because you have to center them anyway and I don't have a particular brand favorite.
I've shot a lot of things from M-60's in the Army and etc and I've pretty always considered a gun as just a gun. You center it, shoot it, you reload it, and you clean and take care of it and that's it.
Oh dear. Vinny, Vinny, Vinny...........
A gun is a gun?? Just zero it & clean it. I can see you didn't get much down range time in the military, basic training & then a desk job was it??
With this attitude there is no way you have spent a lot of time with firearms, no way.
The quality of the barrel alone can make a huge difference to the accuracy %'age of a weapon (zeroed or not), compared to a bog standard, off the shelf AR15.
Then we can talk durability in different conditions, I will give you a clue = the AR50-arctic-warfare .308, can be used in sub zero arctic conditions, to plus 50 desert conditions.
Go find me a $300 bit of crap that fires the same round that could stand up to this.
We could also get into to effective range, but you are not a gun enthusiast so why bother..............
PT
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Going over to Laurel Nest Yurts next week to check out what they have. Because of building code issues I'm having, I'm considering this as a second option
http://www.laurelnestyurts.com/
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Going over to Laurel Nest Yurts next week to check out what they have. Because of building code issues I'm having, I'm considering this as a second option
http://www.laurelnestyurts.com/
Is Vissy ok with this option?
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Is Vissy ok with this option?
Of course he is with the exception of the property but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it
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Of course he is with the exception of the property but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it
This is interesting Vince options from living a different lifestyle ie away from government regulations and bullshit is a enterprising subject. So how would property taxes and such work in this environment?
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This is interesting Vince options from living a different lifestyle ie away from government regulations and bullshit is a enterprising subject. So how would property taxes and such work in this environment?
Very minimal....especially when you're not paying any rent, mortgage, electric, water, etc.
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Going over to Laurel Nest Yurts next week to check out what they have. Because of building code issues I'm having, I'm considering this as a second option
http://www.laurelnestyurts.com/
I knew this would happen.
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Cool topic. Have you video taped any of the work? Would be cool to look back on when it's all set the way you envision it.
Good luck.
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What type of freedom do you speak of Vincenzo?
Won't you still have to pay Federal Income Tax?
Speak on this Melvin..
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Yes, the saying you can't beat death and taxes....although some people beat taxes!!!...for a while anyway! ;)
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I knew this would happen.
The only issue with the building code was that it wasn't big enough and that I needed to add about 300 more square feet of living space. There was nothing wrong with the overall design itself. It has standard insulation, plumbing, electrical wiring, etc....it was simply too small.
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Found some property for really cheap, verizon signal picks up nicely. Area would need to be cleared and a water well drilled but it will be well worth for the price. 2 more years and I'll have freedom from the government and the utility companies.... ;D
did you get a mule with it as well?
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did you get a mule with it as well?
Sorry, your mother wasn't included in the land deal.... :)
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Sorry, your mother wasn't included in the land deal.... :)
;D
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The only issue with the building code was that it wasn't big enough and that I needed to add about 300 more square feet of living space. There was nothing wrong with the overall design itself. It has standard insulation, plumbing, electrical wiring, etc....it was simply too small.
I've yet to hear a homesteading story that didn't involve a battle with outside interference.
Good thread. I'm looking forward to the updates.
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I've yet to hear a homesteading story that didn't involve a battle with outside interference.
Good thread. I'm looking forward to the updates.
Yea, I didn't realize how difficult that could be. Everything seems to be working against you from electric to water to septic etc. But I'll eventually come up with a solutions for all
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Alright, finally got a plan approved. Its a cabana style design that is super-cheap and it will keep the cost down as it is quite easy to build. Here's what it will somewhat look like
(http://www.mighty-shed.com/images/CabanaDecksm.GIF)
In addition, I've also decided on how to heat the house and it will be with a Kimberly Stove. It is so efficient that I can heat the home for 10 hours on ONE 5lb extruded pressed log. I may even end up selling them
(http://tinyhouseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/kimberlyfire2.jpg)
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Sounds like the kind of guy who claims squatter's rights in a 20' shipping container and keeps hoping longshoremen will turn up to evict him so he can help them "offload."
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Have you moved in yet Vince or are you waiting until springtime?
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In addition, I've also decided on how to heat the house and it will be with a Kimberly Stove. It is so efficient that I can heat the home for 10 hours on ONE 5lb extruded pressed log. I may even end up selling them
(http://tinyhouseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/kimberlyfire2.jpg)
This is an interesting product. You can use it to cook, which would only make sense to do if you're going to fire it up anyway. The idea is to satisfy multiple needs per single use of energy.
These stoves have an EGR system of sorts, similar to a vehicle engine. It reuses exhaust from the fire to reincinerate at super high temperatures, which obviously makes it more efficient versus itself without, but it also consumes pollutants that you'd otherwise breathe over the years.
You can burn charcoal and other forms of fuel in it, too.
As for the fire logs, it would be interesting to know how long they can be stored. Getting a large quantity, cheap per piece, would be a goal if they could be stored.
Seems as though they should repel moisture, so...
Alright, finally got a plan approved. Its a cabana style design that is super-cheap and it will keep the cost down as it is quite easy to build. Here's what it will somewhat look like
Weird, but Mighty-Shed has gone offline. I wonder what happened.
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Have you moved in yet Vince or are you waiting until springtime?
I'm still in the planning stage which will take a very long time. There's a lot of things that I'll have to buy and consider prior to doing so because once I start building the house, then there's no going back. While it will not cost much to do so, I want to make sure I get everything right.
Ultimately, my purpose is to retire by the age of 40 comfortably being able to pay my expenses solely off my business. The only way I found that I can do that is to set up a home that I don't have to pay electricity, water, gas, mortgage, etc. By doing so, I can truly retire and not have to worry about bills
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I'm still in the planning stage which will take a very long time. There's a lot of things that I'll have to buy and consider prior to doing so because once I start building the house, then there's no going back. While it will not cost much to do so, I want to make sure I get everything right.
Ultimately, my purpose is to retire by the age of 40 comfortably being able to pay my expenses solely off my business. The only way I found that I can do that is to set up a home that I don't have to pay electricity, water, gas, mortgage, etc. By doing so, I can truly retire and not have to worry about bills
Good plan a damn bunch of work though.
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Fully self sufficient?
is going to make his own anal lube? ???
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Good plan a damn bunch of work though.
Not in the scheme of things. Once the plans are set, I'll hire a foreman and some Mexicans to help build the home. Most of the supplies I can get from any home improvement store delivered for free and since its not going to be a big house (under 400 sq ft open floor plan), it will not take long to finish.
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Not in the scheme of things. Once the plans are set, I'll hire a foreman and some Mexicans to help build the home. Most of the supplies I can get from any home improvement store delivered for free and since its not going to be a big house (under 400 sq ft open floor plan), it will not take long to finish.
Why not hire an american contractor and help the economy like Obama said to?
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Why not hire an american contractor and help the economy like Obama said to?
Not all Mexicans are in the country illegally, dipshit.... ::) In addition, its not my job to built the American Economy....I simply have to pay my taxes and take care of myself
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I'll be doing my first test in December with a skeleton system. I'll be camping out with a modified tent with a wood stove and a 15 watt solar panel system for my Tablet and cell phone. I'll be able to get a general feel of things and learn what to improve on.
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I'll be doing my first test in December with a skeleton system. I'll be camping out with a modified tent with a wood stove and a 15 watt solar panel system for my Tablet and cell phone. I'll be able to get a general feel of things and learn what to improve on.
Why the big wait between now and December?
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Why the big wait between now and December?
preparation and winter would be the best test for the system plans.
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preparation and winter would be the best test for the system plans.
If you want pm me, I can sell you a bunch of stuff. I have shake weights, snake oil, etc.
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If you want pm me, I can sell you a bunch of stuff. I have shake weights, snake oil, etc.
I still don't want your mamma. Tell her that she'll have to stay on the farm with the rest of the hogs. ;D
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I'll be doing my first test in December with a skeleton system. I'll be camping out with a modified tent with a wood stove and a 15 watt solar panel system for my Tablet and cell phone. I'll be able to get a general feel of things and learn what to improve on.
How long are you planning to stay out there? And have you considered trying one of the Kimberly stoves on this trip?
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Wouldn't it be more efficient to live in something with a higher R value than a tent?
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Wouldn't it be more efficient to live in something with a higher R value than a tent?
I spent a few days in a yurt this winter. The inside was covered in wool blankets and just a wood stove to keep it warm. Got into the single digits at night but stayed 50ish inside.
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How long are you planning to stay out there? And have you considered trying one of the Kimberly stoves on this trip?
I'm going to use a military tent stove with a water jacket. I'll be able to take a warm shower, cook food, and have heat all in one. I decided against using the Kimberly stove. Plans are going to change a bit until I'm comfortable with it which is why I'm taking my time on this project.
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Wouldn't it be more efficient to live in something with a higher R value than a tent?
The tent will be using a special insulation that I'm testing....same as what's used on NASA shuttles.
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Wouldn't it be more efficient to live in something with a higher R value than a tent?
The tent will be using a special insulation that I'm testing....same as what's used on NASA shuttles.
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A tree house and a kerosene heaters sounds cheaper.
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The tent will be using a special insulation that I'm testing....same as what's used on NASA shuttles.
NASA? Dude. For cost/ R value, it's hard to go past expanded polystyrene or polyurethane. SIPs are a very cheap and quick way to build, certainly easy enough to do most yourself, and you'd be spending time solving questions of preference rather than viability. Alternatively, you and a friend would put up basic steel or timber studwall and truss roof framing in a week. A contractor would have the place roofed and sided in the same amount of time and you'd onto services by week two. The yurt, being unconventional, seems like it would involve a lot of solution finding time.
Post up some specs and plans if you can. Obviously I've got my doubts but I'd be interested to see what you're proposing.
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NASA? Dude. For cost/ R value, it's hard to go past expanded polystyrene or polyurethane. SIPs are a very cheap and quick way to build, certainly easy enough to do most yourself, and you'd be spending time solving questions of preference rather than viability. Alternatively, you and a friend would put up basic steel or timber studwall and truss roof framing in a week. A contractor would have the place roofed and sided in the same amount of time and you'd onto services by week two. The yurt, being unconventional, seems like it would involve a lot of solution finding time.
Post up some specs and plans if you can. Obviously I've got my doubts but I'd be interested to see what you're proposing.
It has to be light so that it can be easily moved swiftly to another location if needed. That's why I'm going to try a number of different types of homesteads. I've already done the cabin which I liked so I'm going to do the tent and yurt next. This also allows me to learn about the benefits and downsides so that when the decision is made, I am prepared for it
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It has to be light so that it can be easily moved swiftly to another location if needed. That's why I'm going to try a number of different types of homesteads. I've already done the cabin which I liked so I'm going to do the tent and yurt next. This also allows me to learn about the benefits and downsides so that when the decision is made, I am prepared for it
You one paranoid little dude, have you made you own anal lube yet? ;D :-X ???
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I am moving to a tree house.
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It has to be light so that it can be easily moved swiftly to another location if needed. That's why I'm going to try a number of different types of homesteads. I've already done the cabin which I liked so I'm going to do the tent and yurt next. This also allows me to learn about the benefits and downsides so that when the decision is made, I am prepared for it
Modular SIP construction on prefab steel bases. Can be loaded by forklift, crane, or boomtruck. Restumping is a matter of hours for a pro. Finish with an acrylic elastomer and you can roll that sucker up & down mountains without a crack appearing. Run of the mill manufactured housing - proven and cheap.
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I am moving to a tree house.
haha, can you imagine Vince doing this in the mtns of NC? What a circus.
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haha, can you imagine Vince doing this in the mtns of NC? What a circus.
LOL. Wonder if he it would be a one bedroom or two?
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I'm going to use a military tent stove with a water jacket. I'll be able to take a warm shower, cook food, and have heat all in one. I decided against using the Kimberly stove. Plans are going to change a bit until I'm comfortable with it which is why I'm taking my time on this project.
There you go. Sounds like a good start.
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Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me.
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It has to be light so that it can be easily moved swiftly to another location if needed. That's why I'm going to try a number of different types of homesteads. I've already done the cabin which I liked so I'm going to do the tent and yurt next. This also allows me to learn about the benefits and downsides so that when the decision is made, I am prepared for it
Way to go Vince!!! Keep us informed about how it's going.
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Big Update....
Finally decided on getting a yurt for the off grid homestead, however instead of a traditional Mongolian one, I'm going to modify it with a mold resistant fabric and reflective insulation. With about 5 people, it can be completely set up within a day minus building the deck
Originally I had some issues with the building codes but they've recently changed in North Carolina where its no longer an issue so I'm going to go back to the Yurt....I liked it better than the cabin anyway
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Vince, how about one of these?
http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/
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Vince, how about one of these?
http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/
The estimate for a contractor to build a 365 SQ FT house was $75,000. WTF?
Cool stuff but way over priced if you can't build it all yourself.
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Vince, how about one of these?
http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/
Way too small and too expensive although I respect his work. If I was going to travel, then I would go ahead and buy an RV. I can get a 20-30 ft yurt for under 10k and with the use of reflective insulation and mold free plastic, it would be as durable and flexible as a convential house without the cost.
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Big Update....
Finally decided on getting a yurt for the off grid homestead, however instead of a traditional Mongolian one, I'm going to modify it with a mold resistant fabric and reflective insulation. With about 5 people, it can be completely set up within a day minus building the deck
Originally I had some issues with the building codes but they've recently changed in North Carolina where its no longer an issue so I'm going to go back to the Yurt....I liked it better than the cabin anyway
lol your not 'all there', are you?
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Big Update....
Finally decided on getting a yurt for the off grid homestead, however instead of a traditional Mongolian one, I'm going to modify it with a mold resistant fabric and reflective insulation. With about 5 people, it can be completely set up within a day minus building the deck
Originally I had some issues with the building codes but they've recently changed in North Carolina where its no longer an issue so I'm going to go back to the Yurt....I liked it better than the cabin anyway
Go to a tree house no regulations.
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If you ever watch the show, Bering Sea gold, a few of those people live in yurts, and they seem to hold up to those weather conditions well. I'm sure being in NC, you'll be fine with one.
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lol your not 'all there', are you?
I hope it isn't his plan that makes you ask that. It is an excellent idea.
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Go to a tree house no regulations.
Hah!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/feds-plan-chop-down-idaho-man-14k-tree-201209155.html
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Thanks Vince...so when the welfare money runs out and the cities are in flames, I'll come to your place with some boys and evict your ass ;D
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Vince, how about one of these?
http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/
I actually bought the book. Okay for inspiration, though I get better space-saving ideas from Japanese architecture. So save your money.
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The estimate for a contractor to build a 365 SQ FT house was $75,000. WTF?
Cool stuff but way over priced if you can't build it all yourself.
Exactly. Even with Dutch lumber prices being ridiculously high, I could build it for a quarter of that without sacrificing any quality.
Then again: with land prices over here, the other 56,000 would be going to the city for buying enough land to put it on... ::)
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why not just buy a boat and live in the keys or on the gulf coast of florida?
you'll be off the grid, you'll have a means of transportation to tour around the caribbean and it will prolly cost you as much as your yurt or whatever the fuck it is.
you can provision a boat for months away from shore. you cant take a home with you.
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why not just buy a boat and live in the keys or on the gulf coast of florida?
you'll be off the grid, you'll have a means of transportation to tour around the caribbean and it will prolly cost you as much as your yurt or whatever the fuck it is.
you can provision a boat for months away from shore. you cant take a home with you.
Can you really envision this jabronie navigating on the high seas?
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Can you really envision this jabronie navigating on the high seas?
LOL!!! ahahhahahahaha good point!
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Hah!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/feds-plan-chop-down-idaho-man-14k-tree-201209155.html
Damn they are doing this cause he isnt paying property taxes fuck them.