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Phil was 100% on compared to anyone. Jay will be worried or should be. Just calling it the way I see it. Nothing personal. Jay was holding water in his arms bigtime.
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Phil was 100% on compared to anyone. Jay will be worried or should be. Just calling it the way I see it. Nothing personal. Jay was holding water in his arms bigtime.
Thats not WATER bud, thats OIL
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Very rookie observation.
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The best man on stage in my opinion.
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The best man on stage in my opinion.
That he is. Anyone who says he's got fake muscles is a moron, lol.
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Jay is the man of fake muscle this weekend.
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He's been bodybuilding since what 04...I wasn't born yesterday. You take his arms off and its a COMPLETELY different story.
I forgot some of you guys get a damn hard on for big biceps and make them a Mr. Olympia with that ::)
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jays left bicep? Looks like oil overload or muscle tear
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don't know... as i posted on another topic thread... like in boxing, the contender/contenders have to totally blow away and even K.O. the champ to win, .... if it's close judges/voters will always always give the win to the champion in a subjective sport...
whatever jay's weakness his size, mass and yes, being the champion outweigh and beat's phil's best attributes,,, plus, heath has weaknesses too ( no calves for instance, narrow upper frame, and loses "mass and thickness from the side"...
so i guess it's jay 1, heath 2 and a fight for 3rd place...
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Probably will be because he is better than ever and jay is not all there right now
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Totally agree. It's going to be Phil Heath. The man looks amazing!
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That he is. Anyone who says he's got fake muscles is a moron, lol.
this is what fake muscle look like,, again as i SAID he is wanted to be mr o ,, he was pumped and skipped everything because he knew it was coming,, it is big problem ,, bodybuild is going into dark dark places,, i really am no longer a fan im quite a shame to be part of it to be honest,,this is simply a joke,, its one thing to look best among the worst but its another thing to look best and have no foundation and he has NO FOUNDATION ...reason his waist appear small? because he is blown up from the inside out! with no weight training foundation ,,
bunch of morones ,, but! as i said he is WANTED he is wanted!! to be mr o ,, it is big big shame,,its almost like if you gave o to paulie d ..quite embaressing
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Hahaha on heath having no calves??!! Are you blind??!! Aside from width he's a complete bber. The best on the stage tonight!!
I hope he wins!!
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what you see on stage there is quite embersing,, no one look good ,, philsulina himself lack condition ,, notice THERE IS NO HARDNESS AND DRYNESS ...THERE IS ONLY LOW BODYFAT BETWEEN SKIN AND MUSCLE THAT IS BLOWN WITH LOW BODYFAT BETWEEN SKINNNN AND MUSCLE...the condition you see on philsulina is described as best condition ...i suggest you go to the 90s and see what condition is,,very sad
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this is what fake muscle look like,, again as i SAID he is wanted to be mr o ,, he was pumped and skipped everything because he knew it was coming,, it is big problem ,, bodybuild is going into dark dark places,, i really am no longer a fan im quite a shame to be part of it to be honest,,this is simply a joke,, its one thing to look best among the worst but its another thing to look best and have no foundation and he has NO FOUNDATION ...reason his waist appear small? because he is blown up from the inside out! with no weight training foundation ,,
bunch of morones ,, but! as i said he is WANTED he is wanted!! to be mr o ,, it is big big shame,,its almost like if you gave o to paulie d ..quite embaressing
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Meltdown.
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this isn't the time to be bashing phil...the guy looks great...he is very much improved from the back and beats jay in almost every shot.
unless he really screws something up going into the night show, phil heath will be the the 2011 mr. o.
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Meltdown.
not meltdown ,, i said he will be mr o ,, repetedly but! when you think about what mr o shoudl look like IT IS NOT what you see there,, it just not what you see there...jason himself is a failed mr o and now what they do is bring foundationless fella to be mr o ,,its emberessing
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this isn't the time to be bashing phil...the guy looks great...he is very much improved from the back and beats jay in almost every shot.
unless he really screws something up phil heath will the the 2011 mr. o.
gh15's jealous of his success, always been. Then there's his bunch of boys who try to please him by repeating the same nonsense endlessly - fake muscle, insulin etc zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I don't understand "blown up from within". Did everyone else blow up from outside ??? ::)
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Yeah I mean that picture posted earlier of Yates, Ray, Nasser, and Levrone they just all looked different. Guys trained for 15 to 20 years to win and this guys does it in less than 10 years if he wins???
Its not about bashing his but Jay screwed up with that inject. site in his bicep. Question is what does that mean for bodybuilding if Phil wins???
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gh15's jealous of his success, always been. Then there's his bunch of boys who try to please him by repeating the same nonsense endlessly - fake muscle, insulin etc zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I don't understand "blown up from within". Did everyone else blow up from outside ??? ::)
everythign explain in detail in bible,, im not jelous of philsulina...i said it over and over he would probably be mr o ,, you can find million quotes of mine,, the PROBLEM IS you can not put someone with title when that someone have no foundation! the fella just doesnt have it ,, only if he get some problems and he probably will somehow you will see how he shrink it wil be doubel the speed of any pro ,, again he is foundationless! the blow up of a bodybuilder shoudl ONLY come after he has very good foundation from aas and years of training
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He's been bodybuilding since what 04...I wasn't born yesterday. You take his arms off and its a COMPLETELY different story.
I forgot some of you guys get a damn hard on for big biceps and make them a Mr. Olympia with that ::)
Phil would be a different bodybuilder without his biceps but he would still be pretty good. It's not like he has any major weak points. His back may have been when he turned pro but has since improved. He isn't all arms as he once was although they obviously help tremendously.
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not meltdown ,, i said he will be mr o ,, repetedly but! when you think about what mr o shoudl look like IT IS NOT what you see there,, it just not what you see there...jason himself is a failed mr o and now what they do is bring foundationless fella to be mr o ,,its emberessing
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I'm never going to agree with you on this, sorry stud.
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he has calves, quads, great inside legs, hams, ripped glutes, small waist, good back and back detail, exellent delts, best arms .... chest is a touch weak, not naturally wide...
easy winner, if gutler wins over what he's brung its a disgrace
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Phil beat Jay thats for sure like I called it days ago.
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I'm never going to agree with you on this, sorry stud.
nothing to do with agreement ,, what i state is a fact!,, it become a pagent,, what philsulina win is the fella who present the most beautiful package...IT WAS NEVER LIEK THIS IN BODYBUILD,, AND TRUST ME ALL THE IFBB JUDGES READ GH15...it just that a bodybuilding only recently becmae a beauty pagent! sean ray didnt win o ....he was beautiful....same for other....ken wheeler didnt win o he was beautiful....WHY DIDNT THEY WIN IT? BECAUSE THERE WERE REAL BODYBUILDERS OUT THERE LIKE RON COLMAN AND DORIAN YATES,,
THER ARE NO MORE REAL BODYBUILDERS OUT THERE...NO MORE LEE HAINEYS NO MORE RON COLMANS NO MORE DORIAN YATES,, NO MORE! NOW IT IS BEAUTY CONTEST 100% ,, it is a shame i bet you whatever you want that bodybuild will fade more than ever for whats going on tonight and tomorow,,, you will see ...the drugs seeling will go rock sky high sky high my elfs will make so much money it iwll be insane but! who will lose? i will tell you who will lose....that real bodybuilders,, the true naturals in the gyms that train hard and do real bodybuilding
THEY WILL LOSE
moment you understand that im bigger than any bodybuilding,, im god of hormones! ,,moment you understand that god think about bodybuilding in the big sense of things..you will also understand the huge step backwords bodybuilding is taking right now
then again who you gonna give it to to 40 inch jason? this generation sadly raised no serious bodybuilders...the ones who could have been serious bodybuilders decided to sit in england and lie they are naturals ,,,they train hard ,, jamaica boy train hard...but he is too afraid to go anywhere or do anythinng,, and all the real bodybuilders stay home and decided not to persue bodybuilding while the fake bodybuilders...go on stage and play with vials of insulina and gh ,, very very very sad
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ok gh................... who would u place ahead of him?
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what you see on stage there is quite embersing,, no one look good ,, philsulina himself lack condition ,, notice THERE IS NO HARDNESS AND DRYNESS ...THERE IS ONLY LOW BODYFAT BETWEEN SKIN AND MUSCLE THAT IS BLOWN WITH LOW BODYFAT BETWEEN SKINNNN AND MUSCLE...the condition you see on philsulina is described as best condition ...i suggest you go to the 90s and see what condition is,,very sad
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Spot on.
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nothing to do with agreement ,, what i state is a fact!,, it become a pagent,, what philsulina win is the fella who present the most beautiful package...IT WAS NEVER LIEK THIS IN BODYBUILD,, AND TRUST ME ALL THE IFBB JUDGES READ GH15...it just that a bodybuilding only recently becmae a beauty pagent! sean ray didnt win o ....he was beautiful....same for other....ken wheeler didnt win o he was beautiful....WHY DIDNT THEY WIN IT? BECAUSE THERE WERE REAL BODYBUILDERS OUT THERE LIKE RON COLMAN AND DORIAN YATES,,
THER ARE NO MORE REAL BODYBUILDERS OUT THERE...NO MORE LEE HAINEYS NO MORE RON COLMANS NO MORE DORIAN YATES,, NO MORE! NOW IT IS BEAUTY CONTEST 100% ,, it is a shame i bet you whatever you want that bodybuild will fade more than ever for whats going on tonight and tomorow,,, you will see ...the drugs seeling will go rock sky high sky high my elfs will make so much money it iwll be insane but! who will lose? i will tell you who will lose....that real bodybuilders,, the true naturals in the gyms that train hard and do real bodybuilding
THEY WILL LOSE
moment you understand that im bigger than any bodybuilding,, im god of hormones! ,,moment you understand that god think about bodybuilding in the big sense of things..you will also understand the huge step backwords bodybuilding is taking right now
then again who you gonna give it to to 40 inch jason? this generation sadly raised no serious bodybuilders...the ones who could have been serious bodybuilders decided to sit in england and lie they are naturals ,,,they train hard ,, jamaica boy train hard...but he is too afraid to go anywhere or do anythinng,, and all the real bodybuilders stay home and decided not to persue bodybuilding while the fake bodybuilders...go on stage and play with vials of insulina and gh ,, very very very sad
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If Dorian or Ronnie competed in this contest, I'd root for them instead of Phil. But he can only compete against whoever's on the stage.
I don't see anyone in the line up who looks better or has improved more. Hence my opinion that he should win.
Bodybuilding's been better/is going down the wrong track is a whole different topic altogether. I think Phil's one of the better things to happen to bb, given guys like Branch and Jay (in his current shape).
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ok gh................... who would u place ahead of him?
no one,, they all look like BALONIE SHIT PIECES OF CONDOMS FILLED IN WITH AIR
no one ,, he look the best ,,most beautiful ,, it is pathetic
jason cutler has straight out 42-44 inch waist,, how can it win anything?
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ok,,, he's the best of a bad bunch, im realy let down by jay tho,,, absolute shite
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ok,,, he's the best of a bad bunch, im realy let down by jay tho,,, absolute shite
Jay looks REALLY terrible. Everything is pretty much off. Way off. He's done one Olympia too many.
He shouldn't win, hell, he probably shouldn't even finish second, though he probably will.
If by crooked chance he does win........well, that would be par for the course now wouldn't it? ;-)
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no one,, they all look like BALONIE SHIT PIECES OF CONDOMS FILLED IN WITH AIR
no one ,, he look the best ,,most beautiful ,, it is pathetic
jason cutler has straight out 42-44 inch waist,, how can it win anything?
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Why don't these guys come to a contest in shape any longer? What has happened that only size seems to matter? Nobody even looks close to have a dry look and sharp look to them.
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Jay had shitty Lower back, upper back, fat wide waist, upper abs look soft, shoulders look waaay to uneven, oil left bicep and right tricep, right quads smaller then left quad.... Nothing I mean nothing on jay was pleasing to watch
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i kind of agree with gh15. there is a certain look achieve with years of training. a sort of hard grainy look to the muscle that none of the new guys have. he is right this generation of bber is going to be pretty and fake. i predict it will award the lazy prettier bber that uses SEO's the best
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Jay had shitty Lower back, upper back, fat wide waist, upper abs look soft, shoulders look waaay to uneven, oil left bicep and right tricep, right quads smaller then left quad.... Nothing I mean nothing on jay was pleasing to watch
Totally agree with you on every word you typed.
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you have no other option than to give philsulina the title ,, unless jason come like a diff animal today,, even then ... the waist is just too large,,,it is just simply too large ...
when you have a large waist...you have to have the upper back show lots of detail and not only width ,, he came with wide waist just look very wide yet the upper back not good and the lower back is fold skin ,, now he really relaly need his angel ,,his dog,, to help him because i dont know how to fix that in 24 hours
philsulina is just again i dont know the fella who walk into the club with his xxl shirt and has good muscle shape and lots of hormone respond lol he is just lazy lol i dont know how to call it ,,,then againnnnnn when you look at the total picture....his fuckin generation does the same damn thing...so you award the most besutiful fella and life go on ,,
the sad thing is that bodybuilder got to have powerfull look ,,it got to have this marcus look from night of champions back in the day ,, it got to have the ron colman look 1998 1999 2003,, it got to have the dorian look back in early to mid 90s,, it got to have a powerful arnold look even though arnold was lighter...in comparison
bodybuilder got to project strength and a body that is not based on beauty only but also on superb peeled condition that you say what the fuck being embarsed to stand next to it,,, philsulina show a lot of club type muscle with low bodyfat...blown up club muscle
this is going to be your mr o my friends unless something DRASTIC happen
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Here is the comparison that usually wins the Olympia. Jay's buttocks look unusual to say the least.
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Phil is the winner and Jay is clearly worried.
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Here is the comparison that usually wins the Olympia. Jay's buttocks look unusual to say the least.
just to enrich your brain ,, his problemis that he fuck up the diuretic thats why hold water look flatter,, he will look better tomorrow ,,but the problem is !!! his waist is HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE ,, its big problem
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just so its understood,, its not that philsulina came in amazing shape or bigger....it is that jason fucked diuretic,, he still ...he look quite bad but if you lok closely he still has philsulina on size and foundation but alot ,, philsulina look small next to him almost like a state competitor ,, jason can win it today but! he will have to be MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH TIGHTER ,, it is close not becauwse of philsulina its because jason....fucked up diuretic! ,,its age im telling you age getting to him and also stresss dog and all that shit but this is as disgusted said a diuretic fuck up that can be fixed,, the waist gotta get tighter got to!
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does anyone else notice that phil's clavicles are not as wide as his hips. i mean he developed his side delts to the max but he is still very narrow
gh again i agree with you a bber is suppose to look powerful. phils muscles look like they are filled with air..no grainy look at all. i do miss the 90's and even early 2000's :'(
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Phil's arms and shoulders are so enormous that when he stands relaxed or do any crunching type poses his pecs just look tiny. In the first call out I though that Wolf stood out the most. Jay shouldn't even be in the top five. Phil, Dex, Wolf, Victor even Rockel looks better according to my eyes.
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you know ken wheeler right? he look as powerfull as a brick house next to philsulina,, im nto joking ,, and ken wheeler was one of the fellas we laughed at for how weak he looked and he would wipe floor with philsulina when it comes to projecting strength ,, philsulina look like a blow up BLOW UP MARSHMELOW MAN THAT WENT ON A 12 WEEK DIET AND LOST THE FAT BETWEEN SKIN AND MUSCLE,, he look SOFFFFFFFFFFFFT
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you know ken wheeler right? he look as powerfull as a brick house next to philsulina,, im nto joking ,, and ken wheeler was one of the fellas we laughed at for how weak he looked and he would wipe floor with philsulina when it comes to projecting strength ,, philsulina look like a blow up BLOW UP MARSHMELOW MAN THAT WENT ON A 12 WEEK DIET AND LOST THE FAT BETWEEN SKIN AND MUSCLE,, he look SOFFFFFFFFFFFFT
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What do you think about Dennis Wolf?
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you know ken wheeler right? he look as powerfull as a brick house next to philsulina,, im nto joking ,, and ken wheeler was one of the fellas we laughed at for how weak he looked and he would wipe floor with philsulina when it comes to projecting strength ,, philsulina look like a blow up BLOW UP MARSHMELOW MAN THAT WENT ON A 12 WEEK DIET AND LOST THE FAT BETWEEN SKIN AND MUSCLE,, he look SOFFFFFFFFFFFFT
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again i agree. i am not sold of phil at all. like you said a bber should look powerful. we need another dorain or nasser
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The photos tell the story. Phil has better shape.
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What do you think about Dennis Wolf?
i say compared to phil dennis has a LOOK of strength the phil doesn;t have. even though people say that wolf doesn;t train as hard as he should if u showed a picture of the 2 side by side MOST would say wolf LOOKS stronger and more powerful
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Here is the comparison that usually wins the Olympia. Jay's buttocks look unusual to say the least.
Man, what's the dealio with his right side? His right quad looks even smaller, his left bicep is swollen which makes his already smaller right bi look even smaller, and it looks like even his right calf has atrophied. If it wasn't for his name he wouldn't even be in the top five.
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The photos tell the story. Phil has better shape.
havgin better muscle shape doesnt mean nothnig with you got a 16 year old girl calvicles...he has better muscle shape and insertions with some muscles yes...that doesnt mean nothing,, size and condition wins o and especialy from the back but also over all,, jason fucked up diuretic ,, digusted nailed it from the first second and he is right,, when you are the champ you are given a chance to fix it .....he may or he may not ,,i cant tell you because im not him ,,its just that the all level of competition is real bad ,, real real bad,,levrone would win mr o today with zero problems
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whether he is on or off is a disaster next to phil
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DEFINITELY HEATH'S THIS YEAR!
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does anyone else notice that phil's clavicles are not as wide as his hips. i mean he developed his side delts to the max but he is still very narrow
gh again i agree with you a bber is suppose to look powerful. phils muscles look like they are filled with air..no grainy look at all. i do miss the 90's and even early 2000's :'(
I thought bbing was about developing your MUSCLES (delts) not BONE STRUCTURE (clavicles)? Whats the problem here?
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all this nonsense of insulin and other garbage, jay whether he is on or off is a disaster next to phil
who are you with your 18 posts?
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I thought bbing was about developing your MUSCLES (delts) not BONE STRUCTURE (clavicles)? Whats the problem here?
yeah, ok so his clavivles are a bit narrower, in every other way he is better than jay
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I thought bbing was about developing your MUSCLES (delts) not BONE STRUCTURE (clavicles)? Whats the problem here?
actually this tells me that you know nothing about bbing. thats why genetics are so important in bbing. wide clavicles allow you to develop the X frame as it is called. phil doesn't have it. he has developed the muscle to the max but he will never be as wide as say nasser, dorian, jay because of his narrow clavicles
SO YES BONE STRUCTURE DOES MEAN ALOT IN BBING
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actually this tells me that you know nothing about bbing. thats why genetics are so important in bbing. wide clavicles allow you to develop the X frame as it is called. phil doesn't have it. he has developed the muscle to the max but he will never be as wide as say nasser, dorian, jay because of his narrow clavicles
SO YES BONE STRUCTURE DOES MEAN ALOT IN BBING
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ok so he will never be as wide, one flaw, but everything else looks better.
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again i agree. i am not sold of phil at all. like you said a bber should look powerful. we need another dorain or nasser
Phil looks great and I really wouldnt have any particular problems with phil being mr O if he only had a big chest and a wider back to match those arms. Arms are still overpowering his torso IMO but nobody seems to care if arms are too big on a guy..
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actually this tells me that you know nothing about bbing. thats why genetics are so important in bbing. wide clavicles allow you to develop the X frame as it is called. phil doesn't have it. he has developed the muscle to the max but he will never be as wide as say nasser, dorian, jay because of his narrow clavicles
SO YES BONE STRUCTURE DOES MEAN ALOT IN BBING
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ok so he will never be as wide, one flaw, but everything else looks better.
alright i get it. you like phil heath. you think he looks better.
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alright i get it. you like phil heath. you think he looks better.
No not really, not that bothered, although my posts probably dont suggest that :-)
just fascinated at how people spend all this time picking apart competitors looking for minor flaws, when the main man Jay has flaws everywhere. Not to say there arnt people picking apart jay either.
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Phil looks great and I really wouldnt have any particular problems with phil being mr O if he only had a big chest and a wider back to match those arms. Arms are still overpowering his torso IMO but nobody seems to care if arms are too big on a guy..
i am just not impressed by him. he does look good but he is the kind of bber that would be 170lbs without drugs. he is not a like the freaks that built a foundation over the years like bbing had in the past. those days are sadly gone. thats all i was saying
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No not really, not that bothered, although my posts probably dont suggest that :-)
just fascinated at how people spend all this time picking apart competitors looking for minor flaws, when the main man Jay has flaws everywhere. Not to say there arnt people picking apart jay either.
its not minor ,, its huge flow how narrow he is calvicle wize,, never the less i dont think anyone here said jason look like the winner ,, he is not,,
based on what gh15 has seen tonight ...and more importantly BASED ON WHAT GOD OF HORMONES HAS HEARD HEARD TONIGHT FROM IFBB JUDGE...you have new mr o today ,, his name is philsulina heath...enjoy ,, nice kido i guess ,,but just lack the foundation ,,
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Phil looks a thousand times better than jay, far better shape and lines.
Jay has the worst genetic of any Mr O ever.
Its also about time everyone jumped off of the have a go at Phil Heath GH15 bandwagon. Dorian, Ronnie, Nasser, all of them were all drugs, thats what the sport is. Phil does he same shit as everyone else.
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its not minor ,, its huge flow how narrow he is calvicle wize,, never the less i dont think anyone here said jason look like the winner ,, he is not,,
based on what gh15 has seen tonight ...and more importantly BASED ON WHAT GOD OF HORMONES HAS HEARD HEARD TONIGHT FROM IFBB JUDGE...you have new mr o today ,, his name is philsulina heath...enjoy ,, nice kido i guess ,,but just lack the foundation ,,
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I suppose thats a fairly reasonable point, it does affect his structure, but there are other structural disasters out there, Jay being the perfect example.
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I like Jay, but, he's fucked this one up.
Phil for the win!
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you know, small bodybuilders shouldt be allowed to get on that stage imo anyway. a mr o should look impressive in clothes as well. i would want to go that far as saying to ban bbers from competing there if they dont have a proper height. i know bbing is a small mans "sport" but winners should look like superheros, they cant be impressive if they dont have height, maybe nice as a circus act, NOT nice as a mister o.
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this is what a representative of a mister o title SHOULD look like.
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look better than they do,
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5'9'' is the absolute minimum, any smaller is ridiculous..
They always can install a Mr Dwarf competition..
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Jay gave the title away. His back is not as huge as it was back in 2004-2006. Ronnie motivated Jay to do heavy rows and deadlifts. Jay has lost that thickness that he was slowly developing during the Ronnie years.
The bad bicep injection was just the icing on the cake.
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Jay gave the title away. His back is not as huge as it was back in 2004-2006. Ronnie motivated Jay to do heavy rows and deadlifts. Jay has lost that thickness that he was slowly developing during the Ronnie years.
The bad bicep injection was just the icing on the cake.
"Gave it away", no offense but thats being generous. Hes come to the end of the road genetically, he has nothing to offer, and he has nothing left in the tank youth wise. He has not got the genes of ronnie, ten years at the top and maintaining his size has been a remarkable achievement for him, but he wont be able to compete into his 40's at least not maintaining what he looks like now, things will only get worse from here on.
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You have to wonder about what these guys will do to win that title. They are destroying their health and bodies. Phil looks healthier than Jay....on the surface.
When a guy has obvious injection gone wrong he should be instantly disqualified.
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yes the fact that the right physiques are not being rewarded and these muscle beauty pageants shows expose drugged up dwarfs is totally in line with what the industry is, a sick disgusting cult of talentless people who can be a "somebody" there.
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You have to wonder about what these guys will do to win that title. They are destroying their health and bodies.
naturally...thats pro bodybuilding
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"Gave it away", no offense but thats being generous. Hes come to the end of the road genetically, he has nothing to offer, and he has nothing left in the tank youth wise. He has not got the genes of ronnie, ten years at the top and maintaining his size has been a remarkable achievement for him, but he wont be able to compete into his 40's at least not maintaining what he looks like now, things will only get worse from here on.
I dont think Jay looks old up there. I think Jay is a bored man.. Who has not been motivated since he beat Ronnie.
He only does well as the underdog. He dominated in 2009 only because he lost in 2008.
Once he wins... He loses motivation.. Gets bored... And goes downhill
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yes the fact that the right physiques are not being rewarded and these muscle beauty pageants shows expose drugged up dwarfs is totally in line with what the industry is, a sick disgusting cult of talentless people who can be a "somebody" there.
best post in getbig history.
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No he doesnt look old,
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I dont think Jay looks old up there. I think Jay is a bored man.. Who has not been motivated since he beat Ronnie.
He only does well as the underdog. He dominated in 2009 only because he lost in 2008.
Once he wins... He loses motivation.. Gets bored... And goes downhill
Wrong, he has always looked awful. He has zero genetics. You go for lines amd aesthetics he should never have beat Cormier or Phil, if you go for freakyness he should never have beat Markus or Wolf.
Phil just destroys him across the board.
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Jay is done...
Never should have even beaten 06 Coleman now he has really deteriorated... Waist is wide he looks out of shape
And knowing jay he has DONE everything to be in shape....
IMO Jay only ever won one sandow and that was 09 he lost to victor in 07 as well
He is done
What does Kai look like
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he looks like shit but i hope he still wins from that drugged up dwarf
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What does Kai look like
crap
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Jay is off... Kai is off.. So much for an epic showdown.
Heath should win.
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crap
All that hype and he still came in shit... To be fair I can see where Phil gives up a lot of size to Jay ...
But that's it Phil is better in every other way.. And Jay sporting synthol in his bi shows how sad bbing is... That's why I respect old school bbing Dorian retired in 07 because he had multiple tears ... He did t shoot oil into his arms .... Same as ronnie retired because of injuries he did shoot oil into his tri
All bbers who use synthol are a fucking disgrace
NASSER RHUL MILOS FLEX ... etc
Jay shouldn't even place should be disqualified like he should have been in 01
Why should he get prize money ahead of another bber whose "worked" hard and come in with real muscle...
IMO he shouldn't even make top 10 synthol non wistandibg... His waiste is like 46 inches /. Why should he beat wolf dex freeman Martinez ... Bbing judging is a joke
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i am just not impressed by him. he does look good but he is the kind of bber that would be 170lbs without drugs. he is not a like the freaks that built a foundation over the years like bbing had in the past. those days are sadly gone. thats all i was saying
Haha, your posts sound like you've read everything GH15 posts and just regurgitate everything that was said lol.
Majority bbers are 5'9 or under so without drugs they will be 170 or below. What's your point? How much does a truly natural person at those height suppose to weigh?? 190?? 200?? All these guys are naturally not very big to began with aside from a few.
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he looks like shit but i hope he still wins from that drugged up dwarf
Heath is the same height as Jay. I like how lately the majority of your posts you always seem to reference Phil. Are there things, sir?? ;D
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1st place
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Tito, enlighten us. Who would you have as your Mr. Olympia. Jay looks like shit. Dennis looks great from the front, but disappears from the back. He also has no calves. Kai Green looks like Jay's black twin....the darker Fridge should we say. Phil wins. He has the fullest muscle bellies and shape..I want to comment on GH15 posts. Being a physician who has cared for many a bodybuilder who has had adverse side effects....hello kidney failure. I don't believe that the bodybuilders of today look like those from 90's for one reason only. Insulin. It and synthol give muscle that bloated look; it (insulin) caused glycogen deposition into the muscle as well as water. Thus, you get the Phil look. Maybe GH15 can enlighten us on insulin use in the 90's and maybe eve early 2000's. I also think the reason guys like Ronnie and Dorian had that hard look was they lifted much heavier and intensely then today's top BB's...and they had wider shoulders :)
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Jay should lose just based on that oil ridden arm
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hey hey hey... some guys suddenly turned into nuthuggers? How come? eh? ::)
where are the "width" comments? Where are the "narrow" ones...how about the "insulin" ones. ::)
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Jay looks like shit.
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hey hey hey... some guys suddenly turned into nuthuggers? How come? eh? ::)
where are the "width" comments? Where are the "narrow" ones...how about the "insulin" ones. ::)
His chest looks bigger than Jay's in many shots. But then again, Jay's waist is very wide, which reduces how big that chest looks.
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Phil may looks like the new Mr O, but somehow I have a feeling those A.ryan Judges will not award the right man.
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It's 8 am in Vegas. Think they'll sleep until the afternoon or will they hit the cardio ?
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Jay is off... Kai is off.. So much for an epic showdown.
Heath should win.
Health will win and Jay 2nd and Kai 3rd.
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who are you with your 18 posts?
You should really be asking yourself that question 2000+ posts ;D
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a mr.olympia should be tall and have arnold-like chest, that's what screams power, BIG chest! if you put prime arnold and prime heath standing next to eachother arnold would make heath look like a child
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Health will win and Jay 2nd and Kai 3rd.
BOOM
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a mr.olympia should be tall and have arnold-like chest, that's what screams power, BIG chest! if you put prime arnold and prime heath standing next to eachother arnold would make heath look like a child
I like arnolds classic look. . But I think your wrong Arnold would look like zzyz compared next to Phil onstage
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I like arnolds classic look. . But I think your wrong Arnold would look like zzyz compared next to Phil onstage
phil is what 5'9'' ? and arnold was somewhere around 6'2'', the taller you are the bigger the wow factor, and next to arnold's prime upper body phil would disappear