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Title: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 17, 2011, 06:50:42 AM
The 90's blah blah , post any pic of Levrone  (on stage ) and I'll match it or beat it with Heath's pic.(no homo)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2011, 06:55:52 AM
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Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: biff on September 17, 2011, 06:56:25 AM
levrone was all triceps/shoulders

triceps/shoulders full of esiclene
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 17, 2011, 06:58:21 AM
RAPED


(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/starprofile/Kevin_Levrone.jpg)(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB11314wtmk_NFDBZKICBY.JPG)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on September 17, 2011, 06:59:51 AM
che you are an idiot if you are trying to say heath is better than levrone in the MM!!..
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 17, 2011, 07:00:23 AM
The 90's blah blah , post any pic of Levrone  (on stage ) and I'll match it or beat it with Heath's pic.(no homo)

Phil can't match this  :-X
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jaime on September 17, 2011, 07:01:19 AM
Look at the pictures goatboy.

Kev was overrated, looked better than DoriN in the early days though, as did nearly the whole lineup.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 17, 2011, 07:01:55 AM
hahahah sorry che buts thats an big offence to levrone, phil looks like absolute shit next to levrone who has the real muscle.
not for nothing we call him here bloofy!! plus levrone was wide and phil is cheerleader wide.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 17, 2011, 07:02:35 AM
Levrone is the better actor.... ::)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Reeves on September 17, 2011, 07:03:39 AM
Phul looks like a schmomosexuals wet dream.  Tiny shoulders that appear to have been removed in the interest of aerodynamics but later inflated to attract mates of the same sex.  His chest is akin to that of many "female" bodydopers, aka a size 50 "A" Cup?

Levrone, when he wanted to be, was an articulate and handsome man that could have represented the hobby of bodybuilding far better than balloon boy Phul.

It is simply nothing more than personal preferences.  I rest my case and suggest that those in Phul's court/closet leave theirs closed. ;D
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: MB on September 17, 2011, 07:04:02 AM
Levrone kills Heath, especially early Levrone with legs.  
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jaime on September 17, 2011, 07:04:40 AM
hahahah sorry che buts thats an big offence to levrone, phil looks like absolute shit next to levrone who has the real muscle.
not for nothing we call him here bloofy!! plus levrone was wide and phil is cheerleader wide.


Kev was full of escilene and he isnt wide either.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 17, 2011, 07:04:58 AM
he is nuts,, to say heath is even close to levrone is just plain nuts,, soft physiqe that has no foundation on it ,, it is blow up doll ,,

its amazing how this generation thinks,,

phil heath = justin briber = tiger woods = britney spears sadly = kim kredisian

all have one common thing among them ....they wanted the short way up ,, and they achieved it but! their glory is based on nothing! nothing to be proud of ,, and philsulina physiqe is nothing to be proud of,, anyone who knows bodybuild will tell you that ,, and yes some pros may say im talkin balonie and muscle is muscle...but they themselves know that this is a blow up doll right there that respond very well to hormones,, that is it,, he has NO FOUNDATION ,, you wil never see him lifting heavy EVER,, and you really wont see him growing,, he is maxed

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: tendonitis on September 17, 2011, 07:05:37 AM
Levrone has over 20 victories in the toughest era of bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 17, 2011, 07:06:43 AM
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2482/phil1x.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 17, 2011, 07:08:18 AM
 >:(
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: biff on September 17, 2011, 07:08:25 AM

Kev was full of escilene and he isnt wide either.

exactly, they have almost the same look...massive shoulders arms - pinched looking chest (because of narrow frame). heath has a fuller, more rounded  look to his muscles, maybe levrone hada little better condition.

levrone said himself he used esiclene for contests, yet for some reason gets almost no crap for being a fraud like all the other oilbags.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: kiwiol on September 17, 2011, 07:16:48 AM
Phul looks like a schmomosexuals wet dream.  Tiny shoulders that appear to have been removed in the interest of aerodynamics but later inflated to attract mates of the same sex.  His chest is akin to that of many "female" bodydopers, aka a size 50 "A" Cup?

Levrone, when he wanted to be, was an articulate and handsome man that could have represented the hobby of bodybuilding far better than balloon boy Phul.

It is simply nothing more than personal preferences.  I rest my case and suggest that those in Phul's court/closet leave theirs closed. ;D

LOL, have you seen Kevin talk? 100 lb db curls..........in your face.......don't try this at home..........100....

PH is more articulate, like Shawn Ray. And he does beat Kevin in his own pose (hands clasped most muscular).

As for Mars' comment, Kevin used to take 6 months off in between contests and "blow up" during precontest, while PH trains hard year round. So you could say he had fake muscle, but Kevin looks no different than Phil to me "muscle quality"-wise.

Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 17, 2011, 07:22:20 AM
Raped


(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/comstock/olymp/Levrone04.JPG)(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_O5C0161.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 17, 2011, 07:27:48 AM
dId kevin win mr o ?

yes or no?

philsulina shoudl NEVER be mr o ,,

kevin did not win mr o ...because of many of the reasons you say ,, eventhough he did have foundation he still didnt win it,,

aagain so its clear,,PHILSULINA WILL MOST LIKLEY WIN! BUT DUE TO THE GENERATION HE IS PART OF....HE DOESNT HAVE NO RON COLMANS AND NO DORIAN YATES...HE HAS ....FRANK KAI GREEN ....AND FRANK MGRATH...

what bodybuilding has become is quite honestly a joke

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 17, 2011, 07:30:39 AM
dId kevin win mr o ?

yes or no?

philsulina shoudl NEVER be mr o ,,

kevin did not win mr o ...because of many of the reasons you say ,, eventhough he did have foundation he still didnt win it,,

aagain so its clear,,PHILSULINA WILL MOST LIKLEY WIN! BUT DUE TO THE GENERATION HE IS PART OF....HE DOESNT HAVE NO RON COLMANS AND NO DORIAN YATES...HE HAS ....FRANK KAI GREEN ....AND FRANK MGRATH...

what bodybuilding has become is quite honestly a joke

gh15 approved

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/comstock/olymp/Levrone03.JPG)(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB23779wtmk_DURZWPOWEL.JPG)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 17, 2011, 07:30:57 AM
Raped


(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/comstock/olymp/Levrone04.JPG)(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_O5C0161.jpg)

Phil is only harder in the glute & ham area, so regarding your opinion:

Religions of peace  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jaime on September 17, 2011, 07:31:22 AM
Whine whine whine

gh15 approved


It turned in to a joke when Dorian the abomination started winning titles.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 17, 2011, 07:36:59 AM
Raped


(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_O5C0161.jpg)

That's Kev in 2002 not exactly his best showing  :-\
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 17, 2011, 07:39:35 AM
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/comstock/olymp/Levrone03.JPG)(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB23779wtmk_DURZWPOWEL.JPG)

what is this picture fest? please dont show me you have no idea what bodybuild is ,, i have no time for this right now,, i will do right nowo what you do and show you what bodybuilder is ,, AND HOW BODYBUUILDER SHOULD LOOK LIKE ,, I WILL PUT PICTURES ,, I WILL TAKE FEW MORE MINUTES OF MY TIME TO DO IT ,, FOLLOW WHAT IM PUTTING HERE AND IT WILL BE WITH DESCRIPTIONS TO YOU UNDERSTAND

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2011, 07:40:14 AM
Levrone has over 20 victories in the toughest era of bodybuilding.


Phil won the Colorado pro and Ny pro.

FTW!
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 17, 2011, 07:41:06 AM
this is what a bodybuilder shoudl look like,, this is what bodybuilder who DOES NOT ABUSE INSULINA look like ,, ofcourse great repsond to hormones etc, btu this is what bodybuilder of top caliber look like

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 17, 2011, 07:42:27 AM
this is another example what that top caliber bodybuildeer look like....again no abuse of insulina,, top caliber that philsulina need to reborn and pray well to look like that,, ask philsulina to do this pose

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 17, 2011, 07:44:21 AM
this is what LEGIT REAL MUSCLE LOOK LIKE,, TAKE A CLOSSSSE LOOK AT THIS,, 2 PICTURS FOR MY PUPILS

THIS IS WHAT LEGIT NO INSULINA HIGH DOSE SUPERB MUSCLE LOOK LIKE....TAKE CLOSE LOOK

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 17, 2011, 07:45:42 AM
yes heath is a joke and should be hit on the head for what he does to bbing.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 17, 2011, 07:45:54 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 17, 2011, 07:46:16 AM
and this is ! what a bodybuilder with foundation ....that decided to go insulina route...in higher doses look like....with FOUNDATION! ,, like this,, this is what it shoudl look like

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 17, 2011, 07:47:24 AM
d

Thans 240
plus lvrone hd a better chest and more width
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395335.0;attach=429245;image)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 17, 2011, 07:49:08 AM
and this is ! what a bodybuilder with foundation ....that decided to go insulina route...in higher doses look like....with FOUNDATION! ,, like this,, this is what it shoudl look like

gh15 approved

Read first post ,on stage pics only ,your case is dismissed.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 17, 2011, 07:49:15 AM
to even compare philsulina to kevin levrone who neevr won o ,, to even compare philsulina to legit muscle is a JOKE,, that fella has maybe MAYBE 180LB OF LEGIT MUSCLE ON HIM,, kevin was the biggest legit muscle ...one of them ...one of the biggest legit muscle on planet earth at 230-240lb  on lower dose insulina and mainly aas and hgh

i can not believe you compare this insulina inflated doll to levin levrone,, do you even see how lean levrone face is? do you see how he look like animal? philsulina look like michelin man not animal ,, levrone look like a cheeta that walk the jungles of africa he is animalistic in the lean muscle he has.... and it is real lean not fat from within muscle,, that size he has was legit size!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: yates fan on September 17, 2011, 07:50:07 AM
i think overall kevin is better than phil,but kevin at his best and phil now has two things kevin never had an olympia caliber back and a sandow.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: YoungBlood on September 17, 2011, 07:50:34 AM
;)

In my opinion the best Kevin ever looked was early in his career. When he blew up to match Dorian (in 97 I think, with the first time he shaved his head iirc) he was ridiculous but for the look I like a BBer to resemble, his early years beat the later years.

My favorite Kevin shots are from his amateur days when he had the ponytail, I think it was the NA's or something.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jaime on September 17, 2011, 07:51:37 AM
Lol at differentiating steroid/gh/escilene abuse from slin abuse.

None of it is real, its all the same shit.

Phil has more detail than Kevin, they are both narrow and they both abuse the shit out of seo just like everyone else. Kev had better lines at his best.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 17, 2011, 07:52:51 AM
Read first post ,on stage pics only ,your case is dismissed.

there is no case,, philsulina just doesnt look like a legit bodybuilder,, he is BLOW UP DOLL like the local gymnasium fella circa 2003 that blew up to 245 after few cycles of hgh insnulina and aas...rememebr those? circa 2003 was good circa it had all the philsulina heaths in them ...philsulina started serious what year? 2000000003 lol connect the dots,, he slided between everything ,, he just doesnt cut it as top bodybuilder mr o worthy,, jason found him ....jason himself look like shit as mr o ,, but as i said before 2000 and on bodybuildgin became a big big joke,, it is quite sad and it is something that will never get better

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 17, 2011, 07:53:31 AM
Real triceps

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2010/10-644-01/philHeath-380.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 17, 2011, 07:56:35 AM
Lol at differentiating steroid/gh/escilene abuse from slin abuse.

None of it is real, its all the same shit.

Phil has more detail than Kevin, they are both narrow and they both abuse the shit out of seo just like everyone else. Kev had better lines at his best.

its not the same ,, insulina abuse bring softness that can never get to be harder again ,, philsulina condition is not good,, it is good for THIS  age and time but this age and time is most horrid in history of bodybuidl,, who exactly do you have now? who? paki zack ? who ? frank mgrath? who do you have now? actualy frank mgrath sadly look one of the bestest due to his injury he calmed down and really bring back better look but already fucked from before so cant go nowhere

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jaime on September 17, 2011, 07:57:01 AM


i can not believe you compare this insulina inflated doll to levin levrone,, do you even see how lean levrone face is? do you see how he look like animal? philsulina look like michelin man not animal ,, levrone look like a cheeta that walk the jungles of africa he is animalistic in the lean muscle he has.... and it is real lean not fat from within muscle,, that size he has was legit size!

gh15 approved


If its so legit thenwhy did he shrink down to 160lb and look like he didnt train for six months of the year? FCe it, its all the same shit, you just have a hard on for giving Phil shit.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 17, 2011, 08:01:08 AM

If its so legit thenwhy did he shrink down to 160lb and look like he didnt train for six months of the year? FCe it, its all the same shit, you just have a hard on for giving Phil shit.

the reason kevin shrink back to 170lb is because he stopped EVERYTHING he went cold turky not only hgh and insulina ..he went cold turky and for long logn time,, everyone wil be back to what they were to begin with after a year or 2 with no hormones,, EVERY ONE ,, no matter how much foundation you have,,

the idea about foundation is to build it first with aas and training for few years ,,,serious years..and only then introduce hgh and insulina and not in mega dose,, then climb to mega doseso you can grow and grow and grow and nto max liek philsulina now is maxed befor even winning one title!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 17, 2011, 08:13:09 AM
Real insulinceps

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2010/10-644-01/philHeath-380.jpg)

fixed for reality
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 17, 2011, 08:18:36 AM
heath should be hit on the head
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jaime on September 17, 2011, 08:23:29 AM
the reason kevin shrink back to 170lb is because he stopped EVERYTHING he went cold turky not only hgh and insulina ..he went cold turky and for long logn time,, everyone wil be back to what they were to begin with after a year or 2 with no hormones,, EVERY ONE ,, no matter how much foundation you have,,

the idea about foundation is to build it first with aas and training for few years ,,,serious years..and only then introduce hgh and insulina and not in mega dose,, then climb to mega doseso you can grow and grow and grow and nto max liek philsulina now is maxed befor even winning one title!

gh15 approved


The reason is there is no such thing as foundation in bodybuilding. You can build foundation as a natural but you know jack about that so we'll move on.

Kevin shrunk to nothing because he was all drugs the same as Phil and every other bodybuilder ever.



Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 17, 2011, 08:24:11 AM
and this is ! what a bodybuilder with foundation ....that decided to go insulina route...in higher doses look like....with FOUNDATION! ,, like this,, this is what it shoudl look like

gh15 approved
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395335.0;attach=429283;image)
end of thread...
phil looks good onstage now because jay looks like shit ...
imo victor and dex... are overall better  but phil has the momentum
however
levrone is far better
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 17, 2011, 08:24:47 AM

The reason is there is no such thing as foundation in bodybuilding. You can build foundation as a natural but you know jack about that so we'll move on.

Kevin shrunk to nothing because he was all drugs the same as Phil and every other bodybuilder ever.


QFT
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 17, 2011, 08:33:04 AM
(http://www.bodybuildingweights.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/kevin-levrone-pictures.jpg)

see that... a wide full chest and arms.....
is the side chest ll you see is  phil arms... because his chest is dwarved by his arms
again chest and arms
(http://www.kandeleria.ru/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/kevin_levrone_4.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: TRIX on September 17, 2011, 09:11:50 AM
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_0935_YKUFOQONGN.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: biff on September 17, 2011, 09:34:07 AM
this is what LEGIT REAL MUSCLE LOOK LIKE,, TAKE A CLOSSSSE LOOK AT THIS,, 2 PICTURS FOR MY PUPILS

THIS IS WHAT LEGIT NO INSULINA HIGH DOSE SUPERB MUSCLE LOOK LIKE....TAKE CLOSE LOOK

gh15 approved

lol the guy shrinks to a 180 pound twink when off. how is that legit? how is that foundation?

all aas, or all insulin'a' whats the difference? its all 'fake muscle' - always has been. plus this guy inflamed his arms and shoulders with esiclene before shows (his own words), adding even more fraudulence to his physique.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: lesaucer on September 17, 2011, 09:36:58 AM
wtf che? are you out of your mind haha.. btw, choosing the worst pics of levrone isnt really fair. levrone destroy heath
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: lesaucer on September 17, 2011, 09:43:26 AM
k che now look at these prejudging videos, compare each pose of them, see for yourself..





now look levrone..



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jaime on September 17, 2011, 09:51:58 AM
wtf che? are you out of your mind haha.. btw, choosing the worst pics of levrone isnt really fair. levrone destroy heath


Kevin is Phil with less back detail and size, smaller legs and smaller arms.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Xerxes on September 17, 2011, 09:53:19 AM
Levrone has better lines but Heath would beat him
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: MB on September 17, 2011, 09:54:40 AM

Kevin is Phil with less back detail and size, smaller legs and smaller arms.

Phil is more Flex Wheeler than Kevin Levrone.  Levrone didn't have the bunched up chest of Heath and Wheeler.  Kevin's shoulder structure was much wider. 
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 17, 2011, 10:00:42 AM
Kevrone will always be better than Phil Heath
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jaime on September 17, 2011, 10:03:38 AM
Phil is more Flex Wheeler than Kevin Levrone.  Levrone didn't have the bunched up chest of Heath and Wheeler.  Kevin's shoulder structure was much wider. 


No it wasn't he was narrow, his whole shoulder girdle is the same, their most muscular is identical.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 17, 2011, 10:04:01 AM
Yes the great and wise Che informing the turds of a few unpleasant truths i see....

Phil Heath has been one of the very best BBers for 4 years now, and today will be crowned mr Olympia....Vindicating his greatness, and putting him in VERY select company....

And putting all of the dildos lickers and sniffers of men's asses here on Suicide watch....here's a thought....get your heads out of Gh15's ass.

This also proves the true bodybuilding knowledge and savvy of the few of us here that decided to think for ourselves, and didn't start typing "Philsulina" every other post  ;)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 17, 2011, 10:09:53 AM
Phil won the Colorado pro and Ny pro.

FTW!

Sarcasm noted...in 12 hours Heath will have a sandow....what then? I started a thread on this a year ago and got blasted...I still believe Heath is better than Levrone...especially after last night.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: kiwiol on September 17, 2011, 10:10:19 AM
Yes the great and wise Che informing the turds of a few unpleasant truths i see....

Phil Heath has been one of the very best BBers for 4 years now, and today will be crowned mr Olympia....Vindicating his greatness, and putting him in VERY select company....

And putting all of the dildos lickers and sniffers of men's asses here on Suicide watch....here's a thought....get your heads out of Gh15's ass.

This also proves the true bodybuilding knowledge and savvy of the few of us here that decided to think for ourselves, and didn't start typing "Philsulina" every other post  ;)


Team Bloofy muscle won't recover.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Xerxes on September 17, 2011, 10:11:43 AM
Levrone still had the more aesthetic physique of the two
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 17, 2011, 10:14:07 AM
put a bullet through your skinny heads those who say phil is better
how on earth could little heath beat this

Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Necrosis on September 17, 2011, 10:16:55 AM
Phil is in better condition, is bigger has a way better back and his lower body is better in every way. This nostalgic view is ridiculous, kevin had a weak back and his legs were not amazing just good. Phil would beat flex also, he wins the back shots and he also wins the side tri and side chest. He is more conditioned then flex or kevin have ever been and he is not missing any body parts. He isn't as narrow as flex, his lat spread is much wider then flexs and flex was always light in the legs. the 90's were good but don't get carried away, a prime ronnie, jay, dexter along with phil, wolf and kai are right there with them i would say beating them. The bodybuilders nowadays are more complete, for example dillet had no back, while wolf another big man has a decent back, better then levrones for example. Kai has more size then all those guys with a ridiculous back.

i see how good the 90's were but im not really impressed nor do i think they would beat the top guys of today.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Necrosis on September 17, 2011, 10:17:50 AM
put a bullet through your skinny heads those who say phil is better
how on earth could little heath beat this



the best lighting in history, i wouldn't use that as an example, everyone looked amazing at that show.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jaime on September 17, 2011, 10:19:38 AM
Levrone still had the more aesthetic physique of the two


Kevin was pretty blocky a fair ammount of the time, i think Ray and Flex raped him on aesthetics.

Phil is pretty aesthetic.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Stavios on September 17, 2011, 10:21:45 AM
Sarcasm noted...in 12 hours Heath will have a sandow....what then? I started a thread on this a year ago and got blasted...I still believe Heath is better than Levrone...especially after last night.

you also started a thread a week a go saying Jay would destroy him  8)

you didn't have the time to type why tho  ;D
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Xerxes on September 17, 2011, 10:25:00 AM

Kevin was pretty blocky a fair ammount of the time, i think Ray and Flex raped him on aesthetics.

Phil is pretty aesthetic.

Disagree, Levrone has better chest and ab lines/structure than Heath, Heath looks funky in that region

I agree Ray/Flex both had better aesthetics
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 17, 2011, 10:27:07 AM
you also started a thread a week a go saying Jay would destroy him  8)

you didn't have the time to type why tho  ;D

From what I saw that day Jay looked Boss...Dont know what happened...you saw the.pics..tjis is quite suprising.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Benny B on September 17, 2011, 10:30:32 AM

Kevin was pretty blocky a fair ammount of the time, i think Ray and Flex raped him on aesthetics.

Phil is pretty aesthetic.
^this^
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Bam-bam on September 17, 2011, 10:32:12 AM
From what I saw that day Jay looked Boss...Dont know what happened...you saw the.pics..tjis is quite suprising.

thats why olympia is judged on stagem, not with sobe bs black and white pics or bathroom shots
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Stavios on September 17, 2011, 10:33:48 AM
From what I saw that day Jay looked Boss...Dont know what happened...you saw the.pics..tjis is quite suprising.

disgusted is right on the money, Jay overdid the diuretics

you can see his skin is thin, he just has zero vasularity and upperbody is flatter than a pancake
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: biff on September 17, 2011, 10:36:48 AM
Phil is more Flex Wheeler than Kevin Levrone.  Levrone didn't have the bunched up chest of Heath and Wheeler.  Kevin's shoulder structure was much wider. 

yes, much less 'bunched up' chest

(http://www.learn-bodybuilding.com/images/bb/KevinLevrone22as.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 17, 2011, 10:37:51 AM
yes, much less 'bunched up' chest

(http://www.learn-bodybuilding.com/images/bb/KevinLevrone22as.jpg)

Lol. Exact same chest as Phil....lolz
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 17, 2011, 10:39:05 AM
Bunched up for sure
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jaime on September 17, 2011, 10:49:39 AM
Disagree, Levrone has better chest and ab lines/structure than Heath, Heath looks funky in that region

I agree Ray/Flex both had better aesthetics

His chest and abs aren't great but he has full muscle bellies across the board.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: blackpele on September 17, 2011, 11:01:00 AM
Phil is great but is short.
Go ask the general public who is the best up there and all they will reply Dennis Wolf. Tall, wide shoulders, huge legs, wide back, this what is all about, not looking like the Michelin man.
I mean pick your choice, who do you really want to look like?
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: greeneyes on September 17, 2011, 11:06:15 AM
dennis have a beach body I'll choose to be like heath
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: local hero on September 17, 2011, 12:12:44 PM
Phil is in better condition, is bigger has a way better back and his lower body is better in every way. This nostalgic view is ridiculous, kevin had a weak back and his legs were not amazing just good. Phil would beat flex also, he wins the back shots and he also wins the side tri and side chest. He is more conditioned then flex or kevin have ever been and he is not missing any body parts. He isn't as narrow as flex, his lat spread is much wider then flexs and flex was always light in the legs. the 90's were good but don't get carried away, a prime ronnie, jay, dexter along with phil, wolf and kai are right there with them i would say beating them. The bodybuilders nowadays are more complete, for example dillet had no back, while wolf another big man has a decent back, better then levrones for example. Kai has more size then all those guys with a ridiculous back.

i see how good the 90's were but im not really impressed nor do i think they would beat the top guys of today.


youve got to be kidding me.... theres not a single competitor that could make top 6 in the 90,s,,, you had to actualy be ripped back then
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Nirvana on September 17, 2011, 12:26:17 PM
they honestly are about equally matched.  gh15 just has a personal issue with Phil or maybe Kevin sold him some good esiclene back in the day.

gh15 liked esiclene.

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=41535&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Meso_z on September 17, 2011, 12:26:35 PM
and this is ! what a bodybuilder with foundation ....that decided to go insulina route...in higher doses look like....with FOUNDATION! ,, like this,, this is what it shoudl look like

gh15 approved
Levrone had NO foundation to talk about. NO FOUNDATION..jumped on drugs after maybe a year of bbing.

Heath has foundation, he played basketball and had a pretty muscular physique.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: MB on September 17, 2011, 12:38:17 PM

No it wasn't he was narrow, his whole shoulder girdle is the same, their most muscular is identical.

Levrone wasn't narrow.  Phil cannot be compared to other guys in terms of width, he loses to everyone.   
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: stuntmovie on September 17, 2011, 12:48:41 PM
NOT positive about this because I was too far from the stage but the judges just might have called Jay out with Heath for side by side comparisons in an attempt to "confuse" the audience regarding the eventual outcome.

From where I sat it appeared to me that Jay didn't even deserve top three.

Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: claymore on September 17, 2011, 12:54:16 PM
he is nuts,, to say heath is even close to levrone is just plain nuts,, soft physiqe that has no foundation on it ,, it is blow up doll ,,

its amazing how this generation thinks,,

phil heath = justin briber = tiger woods = britney spears sadly = kim kredisian

all have one common thing among them ....they wanted the short way up ,, and they achieved it but! their glory is based on nothing! nothing to be proud of ,, and philsulina physiqe is nothing to be proud of,, anyone who knows bodybuild will tell you that ,, and yes some pros may say im talkin balonie and muscle is muscle...but they themselves know that this is a blow up doll right there that respond very well to hormones,, that is it,, he has NO FOUNDATION ,, you wil never see him lifting heavy EVER,, and you really wont see him growing,, he is maxed

gh15 approved

"to say heath is even close to levrone is just plain nuts"...Agreed
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 17, 2011, 01:05:53 PM
they honestly are about equally matched.  gh15 just has a personal issue with Phil or maybe Kevin sold him some good esiclene back in the day.

gh15 liked esiclene.

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=41535&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)

rear delts that stick out farther than the tris.... not a good look
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Necrosis on September 17, 2011, 01:13:26 PM

youve got to be kidding me.... theres not a single competitor that could make top 6 in the 90,s,,, you had to actualy be ripped back then

man they arent that ripped, dorian and shawn. flex had soft ass glutes and hams, levrone had little detail in his back. Look at phil how crisp he is, glutes are diced, x-mas tree, seperation everywhere, no muscle lacking, no bodypart that is way behind in development.

that picture of nasser is not impressive to me, he looks blocky as all hell, delts are filled with oil to the point of hilarity, you could hand your jacket on his rear delt there, he isnt insanely ripped either, nothing special about that condition. Its nostalgia that has you, you can't believe something could progress past your time.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: SilverSpoon on September 17, 2011, 01:35:33 PM
Phil is already getting a large gap between his abdominals. 
Why is that?
I've heard it is from insulin + GH abuse.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Nirvana on September 17, 2011, 01:38:10 PM
but phil heath aside.  the 90s are still the golden years.  outside of jay wolf and kai, all of them now are bald, black and look all drugs. 
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Meso_z on September 17, 2011, 01:53:23 PM
Phil is already getting a large gap between his abdominals. 
Why is that?
I've heard it is from insulin + GH abuse.
Ive noticed that too...they got thicker this year...Might be jst me though,
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Necrosis on September 17, 2011, 01:59:42 PM
but phil heath aside.  the 90s are still the golden years.  outside of jay wolf and kai, all of them now are bald, black and look all drugs. 

dexter is better then shawn and victor before the injury wasn't to shabby i would say he has top 5 structure of all time going on, he just can't get as ripped as he once could.

i dont know how they look all drugs, flex and nasser scream seo to me, more so then kai or any of the other guys.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 17, 2011, 02:17:18 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LcbBUX8tzjA/Te5LRpOoQBI/AAAAAAAAGC8/n3CPtO18-6o/s1600/jimi_hendrix_buddy_miles.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Parker on September 17, 2011, 02:21:17 PM
dexter is better then shawn and victor before the injury wasn't to shabby i would say he has top 5 structure of all time going on, he just can't get as ripped as he once could.

i dont know how they look all drugs, flex and nasser scream seo to me, more so then kai or any of the other guys.
SHawn had better abs than Dex, and had a more "polished" look, even though he was bottom heavy.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: The Ugly on September 17, 2011, 02:21:57 PM
His arms are as big as his head.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Necrosis on September 17, 2011, 02:23:38 PM
SHawn had better abs than Dex, and had a more "polished" look, even though he was bottom heavy.

i agree, dex is quite a bit bigger though when he was at his peak the condition is close, both were always in shape, i just think dex with his size advantage could beat shawn in a contest. Shawn wouldn't have the condition advantage
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Papper on September 17, 2011, 02:43:50 PM
His arms are as big as his head.

Yeah about half of his torso is his arms
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: The Ugly on September 17, 2011, 02:46:37 PM
Yeah about half of his torso is his arms

Yet they don't overwhelm his FDB.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Parker on September 17, 2011, 02:53:29 PM
4 pages and nobody posts the "who looks better in a shirt" comparison? Kev in his infamous Ravens sleeveless shirt, and Phil in various "balla" pics with headphones.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: JasonH on September 17, 2011, 02:58:59 PM
GH15 is Levrone.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 17, 2011, 03:06:39 PM
4 pages and nobody posts the "who looks better in a shirt" comparison? Kev in his infamous Ravens sleeveless shirt, and Phil in various "balla" pics with headphones.

Thank you Parker .

End of the thread.

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/view/14542/125/Kevin-Levrone.html) (http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2009/08/23/375163/gallerypic/4122231e.jpg)(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/125/images/Kevin_Levrone_photo141.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Parker on September 17, 2011, 03:07:15 PM
Thank you Parker .

End of the thread.

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/view/14542/125/Kevin-Levrone.html) (http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2009/08/23/375163/gallerypic/4122231e.jpg)
;)
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/sdd.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 17, 2011, 03:11:01 PM
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/view/14541/125/Kevin-Levrone.html)(http://www.europeanbodybuilding.com/tl_files/galerien/fibo-power-2008/Phil-Heath.jpg)(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/125/images/Kevin_Levrone_photo140.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 17, 2011, 03:13:24 PM
How about some of you morons compare contest pics to contest pics and offseason to offseason vs. The bullshit you are pulling to try and make your point.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Parker on September 17, 2011, 03:15:22 PM
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/view/14541/125/Kevin-Levrone.html)(http://www.europeanbodybuilding.com/tl_files/galerien/fibo-power-2008/Phil-Heath.jpg)(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/125/images/Kevin_Levrone_photo140.jpg)
Matt T's older brother?
(http://www.getbig.com/news/2005-03/071605levrone02.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Parker on September 17, 2011, 03:17:45 PM
(http://www.bodyresource.nl/forum/attachments/fotos-en-filmpjes/3689d1223456449-classic-kevin-levrone-04.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: lesaucer on September 17, 2011, 03:23:12 PM
(http://forum.steelfactor.ru/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=29931)

''u mad bra?''
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 17, 2011, 03:24:08 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 17, 2011, 03:24:21 PM
How about some of you morons compare contest pics to contest pics and offseason to offseason vs. The bullshit you are pulling to try and make your point.

I agree.

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/125/images/Kevin_Levrone_photo107.jpg)(http://www.isteroids.com/images/phil_heath.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/125/images/Kevin_Levrone_photo179.jpg)(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/21846d1222877745-damn-phil-heath-heath1.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/125/images/Kevin_Levrone_photo282.jpg)(http://www.bodybuilding365.net/wp-content/gallery/phil-heath/54454553.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 17, 2011, 03:27:52 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Parker on September 17, 2011, 03:29:33 PM
Kevin cut an album....and can play real well on the guitar...Phil can play piano...
who is better
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 17, 2011, 03:30:17 PM
but levrone is the whitest of the two.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 17, 2011, 03:33:19 PM
but levrone is the whitest of the two.
Phil has beautiful blue eyes ,Heath win  .


(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/125/images/levron72.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: KevinP85 on September 17, 2011, 03:34:43 PM
but levrone is the whitest of the two.

Actually Phil is. Dude went and graduated college, speaks very articulate, colored eyes and lives in DENVER!! haha, come on 8)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 17, 2011, 03:37:07 PM
Kevin cut an album....and can play real well on the guitar...Phil can play piano...
who is better

Phil just because Kevin posed on-stage to fucking Creed  :-X  :-X  :-X  :-X
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: 99 Bananas on September 17, 2011, 03:38:18 PM
(http://www.europeanbodybuilding.com/tl_files/galerien/PhilHeath_RobertBurneika/Phil_doublebi.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 17, 2011, 03:39:13 PM
levrones skin is whiter
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Parker on September 17, 2011, 03:40:42 PM
Actually Phil is. Dude went and graduated college, speaks very articulate, colored eyes and lives in DENVER!! haha, come on 8)
Kev is known as a ladies man...Phil has a ball and chain  ;D
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 17, 2011, 03:45:04 PM
Kev is known as a ladies man...Phil has a ball and chain  ;D

Kev was married and I think him and his wife Lola split and then got back together
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: KevinP85 on September 17, 2011, 03:46:29 PM
Kev is known as a ladies man...Phil has a ball and chain  ;D

Phil wins automatically cause he likes Linkin Park ;D

I like Levrone also. Is he really 5'9, Parker? Looked taller
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Parker on September 17, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Phil wins automatically cause he likes Linkin Park ;D

I like Levrone also. Is he really 5'9, Parker? Looked taller
I've never personally met him, Although I have seen his sister and pics with him...and Yeah he is 5'9. From the gazillion people I have talked to, he is 5'9.

Funny story, back in 2000 or so, I was at a Rite Aide store and i picked up a Flex mag with Kevin Levrone on the cover and went to buy it. The Clerk at the counter (whom I've seen around town every so often) said: "That guy was at Cancun Cantina last night (a bar/nightclub near BWI airport), and he was hot as shit...and all the women were on him."
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Earl1972 on September 17, 2011, 09:01:09 PM
che posting pics from 2003 after a torn tricep to prove his point ::)

E
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 17, 2011, 11:01:05 PM
che posting pics from 2003 after a torn tricep to prove his point ::)

E

How many Olympias  has Kevin  won ?

It's official , Phil Heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 18, 2011, 01:12:21 AM
nonono,, not every mr o is better than the top  of the tops ,, jason was never better than kevin .... same for philsulina ...i rate him as the worst mr o ever..why? because no foundation under the rubber,, you got to understand what is going on here...you will in few years

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Naggash on September 18, 2011, 01:42:12 AM
Kevin's muscles looked denser and less blown up and he had better Clavicles than Heath, though that isn't hard
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: closeline on September 18, 2011, 01:48:23 AM
nonono,, not every mr o is better than the top  of the tops ,, jason was never better than kevin .... same for philsulina ...i rate him as the worst mr o ever..why? because no foundation under the rubber,, you got to understand what is going on here...you will in few years

gh15 approved

exactly, it s easier to win o in 2011 than placing top 6 in 1990s

levrone at his best 1992-1995 (top 10 body ever) looked much better than every bodybuilder since 2004, older ronnie included,

and levrone had a face, phil has a melon
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 18, 2011, 02:00:31 AM
he didnt win...he was the one with the smallest amount of bad weakneses on that stage,, this is big diff than to win ,, he had the smallest number of weakneses in a sea full of messed up generation nothingness bodybuild

you have to understand there was NO ONE THERE THAT SHOWED A PHYSIQE WORTHY OF MR O ,, NONE! ,, a fella like ron colman 98 or even 2003! would make it very clear but there is no one who train for training anymore,, its all give me easy easy stuff i wanna be bodybuild,, a dorian circa 90s would win 2011 too,, a kevin levrone! would win the 2011 o,,  a LIAR PRIEST WOULD WIN THE O circa 2011 ,, read this again LIAR PRIEST WOULD HAVE WON 2011 O ! if he looked like in his best o showing,, a jason cutler 2001 version woudl win 2011 o ! ,,

it was  SHAME!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: johnny1 on September 18, 2011, 02:07:54 AM
What the Hell? he WON already, he showed a Physique that WAS WORTHY of a MR OLYMPIA...you know like a BBer should have something long lost like a V Taper, small waist, Great Muscle Belly's, Cut/separated front and back....No of course most the guys now do not have the same sort of Conditioning as Yates and Company in the 90s.... HOWEVER saying there was no one "Worthy" on that stage last night as MR O is Bizarre @ best, or a Underlying agenda @ Worst.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: closeline on September 18, 2011, 02:08:33 AM
right , its a shame

and we can´t blame just the judges

can t hate just the game, because the athletes are a bunch of lazy fuckers without any ideals in their gearwashed brains
even if judges prefer this rubberdolllook, there should be at least a few guys trying to come in with a sollid real bodybuilding physique

lineup lookes more fucked up than at the 90s Masters Olympias

old loking, pregnant bellies, nobody with grainy quality muscle, good posing, alien abs...sad...sad.sad
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 18, 2011, 02:13:26 AM
What the Hell? he WON already, he showed a Physique that WAS WORTHY of a MR OLYMPIA...you know like a BBer should have something long lost like a V Taper, small waist, Great Muscle Belly's, Cut/separated front and back....No of course most the guys now do not have the same sort of Conditioning as Yates and Company in the 90s.... HOWEVER saying there was no one "Worthy" on that stage last night as MR O is Bizarre @ best, or a Underlying agenda @ Worst.

absolitly no agenda,, the only agenda... is to make sure the kidos knwo how he got there,, that they know its nto from training hard,,, that they know it is from mega dosing hgh and insulina,,

you can fool bunch of wanna bes maybe ,, but you cant fool real bodybuilders,, trust me on that any real bodybuilder would give him the win yesterday due to the others being even worse! but any real bodybuild knows whats up there,, knows how puffed up that muscle is from within ,, know how temporary it is ,, and know how it is true that timing is everything...but you also have to hold to it...you have to look like mr o all year long ,, you have to show advanctment in the so call sport,, philsulina SHOW NO ADVANCMENT IN BODYBUILD SINCE RON COLMAN ,, ABSOLITY NONE,, HE IS NOT EVEN BETER THAN JASON CUTLER WHICH WAS ONE OF THE WORST MR O EVER!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 18, 2011, 02:15:18 AM
What the Hell? he WON already, he showed a Physique that WAS WORTHY of a MR OLYMPIA...you know like a BBer should have something long lost like a V Taper, small waist, Great Muscle Belly's, Cut/separated front and back....No of course most the guys now do not have the same sort of Conditioning as Yates and Company in the 90s.... HOWEVER saying there was no one "Worthy" on that stage last night as MR O is Bizarre @ best, or a Underlying agenda @ Worst.

THIS IS NOT A HARD PHSIQE! THIS IS NTO A DRY PHYSIQE! ,, THIS IS A LEANNNNNNNNNNNN PHYSIQE THAT IS CONDITIONED DUE TO THE MUSCLE SEPERATION AND MUSCLE BELLIES,, nothing to do with highest level condition ,, as i said jon ramobo 155 lb look more conditoned than philsulina,, its a fuckin shame!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: johnny1 on September 18, 2011, 02:24:07 AM
THIS IS NOT A HARD PHSIQE! THIS IS NTO A DRY PHYSIQE! ,, THIS IS A LEANNNNNNNNNNNN PHYSIQE THAT IS CONDITIONED DUE TO THE MUSCLE SEPERATION AND MUSCLE BELLIES,, nothing to do with highest level condition ,, as i said jon ramobo 155 lb look more conditoned than philsulina,, its a fuckin shame!

gh15 approved
And you would be Correct, what is wrong with having Muscle separation, Muscle belly's, being Lean? This is Bodybuilding is it not? you know full well ACTUAL Conditioning bye and large has alot to do with GENETICS of the individual of the moment...ever wonder why Shawn ray, Flex Wheeler etc etc never had Dorians Conditioning? yip you know why and dont say he was on "better hormones" Flex was ALOT stronger than yates (for those of us that remember his Hardcore sessions with Cormier and company back in the day) why didnt he have Better Conditioning than Yates?....Levrone was Super strong as well....again he never had Yates Conditioning...
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 18, 2011, 02:28:40 AM
And you would be Correct, what is wrong with having Muscle separation, Muscle belly's, being Lean? This is Bodybuilding is it not? you know full well ACTUAL Conditioning bye and large has alot to do with GENETICS of the individual of the moment...ever wonder why Shawn ray, Flex Wheeler etc etc never had Dorians Conditioning? yip you know why and dont say he was on "better hormones" Flex was ALOT stronger than yates (for those of us that remember his Hardcore sessions with Cormier and company back in the day) why didnt he have Better Conditioning than Yates?....Levrone was Super strong as well....again he never had Yates Conditioning...

but they ALL ! had better condition than philsulina,, there is one reason philsulina can nto achieve this condition and it is INSULINA! this is why his nick is philsulina,, look into the face,, THIS IS A FACE OF A FELLA 4 WEEK OUT,, you cant get peeled on mega dose insulina ,, yuo just can not!,, all of the fellass you mentioned were not using mega dose insulina when they had great conditioning they use insulina but not mega dose lik etoday ,, and! the only one who used mega dose and was a freak of nature and COULD get into condition that was as close as possible to the past was ron btu even he didnt use mega dose when he was at superb conditioning,,

this is a mess ,, he wanted to achieve size to compete with jason .....but he put it on no foundation and did it with insulina mega dose and hgh...in return it brought him blow up muscle that will go as fast as you can say jack,, he will try to maintain it now since its in the contract but yuo will see what i mean ....this body will fall like a deck of cards

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: alnassak on September 18, 2011, 02:40:08 AM
I have always said, Phil is the new Kevin Levrone and with time he will surpass him which he finally does!

Phil is the best bodybuilder ever and Kevin is second in my eyes.  8)
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 18, 2011, 03:02:08 AM
I have always said, Phil is the new Kevin Levrone and with time he will surpass him which he finally does!

Phil is the best bodybuilder ever and Kevin is second in my eyes.  8)


idiot
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: cephissus on September 18, 2011, 03:02:40 AM
does phil have striations at all?  :-\
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: asbrus on September 18, 2011, 03:07:39 AM
but they ALL ! had better condition than philsulina,, there is one reason philsulina can nto achieve this condition and it is INSULINA! this is why his nick is philsulina,, look into the face,, THIS IS A FACE OF A FELLA 4 WEEK OUT,, you cant get peeled on mega dose insulina ,, yuo just can not!,, all of the fellass you mentioned were not using mega dose insulina when they had great conditioning they use insulina but not mega dose lik etoday ,, and! the only one who used mega dose and was a freak of nature and COULD get into condition that was as close as possible to the past was ron btu even he didnt use mega dose when he was at superb conditioning,,

this is a mess ,, he wanted to achieve size to compete with jason .....but he put it on no foundation and did it with insulina mega dose and hgh...in return it brought him blow up muscle that will go as fast as you can say jack,, he will try to maintain it now since its in the contract but yuo will see what i mean ....this body will fall like a deck of cards

gh15 approved


H0W MANY IUS ARE WE TALKING AB0UT THAT PHIL IS USING?
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Parker on September 18, 2011, 03:08:57 AM
does phil have striations at all?  :-\
Yep, he has tons of them
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 18, 2011, 03:11:39 AM
Yep, he has tons of them

hi phil
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 18, 2011, 05:34:10 AM
I have always said, Phil is the new Kevin Levrone and with time he will surpass him which he finally does!

Phil is the best bodybuilder ever and Kevin is second in my eyes.  8)


Go buy a new pair of eyes
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Figo on September 18, 2011, 07:28:59 AM
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Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Nirvana on September 18, 2011, 07:31:13 AM
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good comparison kev little harder.  but Philsulin is a worthy mr O.  much better than anyone who calls him Philsulin makes him out to be
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 18, 2011, 07:35:00 AM
Levrone no longer compares well to Dr. Philsulin. Dr. Philsulin is King now and hes not a bad king...
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Figo on September 18, 2011, 07:36:11 AM
thats a very early levrone there, remember he came second to yates in his first olympia, had he kept the momentum going, maybe, maybe couldve done it. Problem is yates had a great back, back is very important for mr o since 1983. and yates got bigger every year..

momentum, hype, propaganda is a big deal. if levrone had turned pro a year earlier he couldve taken it in 92
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 18, 2011, 07:37:20 AM
.

Kev's chest, delts & traps are dominating, plus he's holding less water
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 18, 2011, 07:40:29 AM
Kevin was in his mid 20's in the pics. You certainly don't see that anymore in the O line up...
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: el numero uno on September 18, 2011, 07:57:03 AM
Some of you guys are out of your fucking mind.

Phil can't be this hard no matter what, his face is FAT which tells you again he can't get in optimal condition.


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!



Btw, it doesn't matter if he just won the olympia. Kevin is still better ffs.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 18, 2011, 07:58:47 AM
Some of you guys are out of your fucking mind.

Phil can't be this hard no matter what, his face is FAT which tells you again he can't get in optimal condition.


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!



Btw, it doesn't matter if he just won the olympia. Kevin is still better ffs.
Phil is way harder from the back
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 18, 2011, 08:00:07 AM
Kevin was in his mid 20's in the pics. You certainly don't see that anymore in the O line up...

So true, just like Shawn and Flex
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 18, 2011, 08:03:38 AM
Guess what assholes? Kevin can keep dreaming of a Sandow and Phil will keep livin the dream of having one and probably more...howdya like them apples?
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: el numero uno on September 18, 2011, 08:04:52 AM
Guess what assholes? Ke in can keep xreaming of a Sandow and Pbil will keep livin the dream of having one and probably more...howdya like them apples?

 ???

Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 18, 2011, 08:06:05 AM
I have always said, Phil is the new Kevin Levrone and with time he will surpass him which he finally does!

Phil is the best bodybuilder ever and Kevin is second in my eyes.  8)

are you serious?
i wanted phil to win yes.....but not even top 15 best bber of all time or top 20

Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: el numero uno on September 18, 2011, 08:11:39 AM
are you serious?
i wanted phil to win yes.....but not even top 15 best bber of all time or top 20



Yes, he was the best yesterday, since Jay was a mess. But he's not better than Kevin.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 18, 2011, 08:13:29 AM
terrible  physique
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 18, 2011, 08:15:20 AM
are you serious?
i wanted phil to win yes.....but not even top 15 best bber of all time or top 20



By virtue of winning the Mr Olympia alone that makes him one of the best bodybuilders of all-time
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: el numero uno on September 18, 2011, 08:18:24 AM
Phil is way harder from the back

He has a better back, but I wouldn't say "harder". And overall he's not harder than levrone. I doubt he will.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 18, 2011, 08:19:24 AM
Hey Levrone Lovers why not post some bdb pics of heath and Levrone:.......i thought so....and theres the major reason he never won a sandow.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 18, 2011, 08:25:14 AM
Hey Levrone Lovers why not post some bdb pics of heath and Levrone:.......i thought so....and theres the major reason he never won a sandow.

He had a good back but certainly not a great one , I think Phil has a better back double biceps shot than Kev and Kev might edge him out on the rear latspread
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: el numero uno on September 18, 2011, 08:27:03 AM
Hey Levrone Lovers why not post some bdb pics of heath and Levrone:.......i thought so....and theres the major reason he never won a sandow.

What do you want me to prove? I just said Phil has a better back you pothead. And remember Levrone was competing against Ronnie and Dorian. It wasn't just because his back.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 18, 2011, 08:32:59 AM
I think Kev can hold his own in this shot , although I do think Phil has the edge
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 18, 2011, 08:41:56 AM
Btw assholez, here are some questions answered from 3 pros i.asked.  Iasked jay Ronnie or Dorian...Jay laughed and said Ronnie is too much. I asked Ronnie yezterday, Ronnie or Dorian...Ronnie did the country Ronnie laugh and said "me". I asked Dr. Philsulin Ronnie or Dorian, Dr. Philsulin said Ronnie also.

El numero, it was just directed to you...Kevins bdb compared to phils last night is utter shite.not even close. Ill save my other comment for its own thread...youll want to see it.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 18, 2011, 09:03:00 AM
dr philsulin should get assassinated to save bbing
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 18, 2011, 09:05:22 AM
dr philsulin should get assassinated to save bbing

Are you out of your mind ?
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 18, 2011, 09:08:16 AM
you used to be someone i could trust.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 18, 2011, 09:13:51 AM
you used to be someone i could trust.
I know but you did hurt my feelings.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 18, 2011, 09:18:57 AM
Impersonating an officer,
resisting arrest...

fraud, reckless driving
and lying to the sheriff!!
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: che on September 18, 2011, 09:22:57 AM
Impersonating an officer,
resisting arrest...

fraud, reckless driving
and lying to the sheriff!!

Leave my kids out of it .
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jaime on September 18, 2011, 09:33:27 AM
Kev looked a lot better in the early years. Philsulina is a better bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 18, 2011, 09:59:43 AM
Leave my kids out of it .
im just doing my job?
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 18, 2011, 10:25:19 AM
Kev looked a lot better in the early years. Philsulina is a better bodybuilder.

Calling him "Philsulina" and "a better bodybuilder" sounds like a contradiction...
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Earl1972 on September 18, 2011, 04:45:08 PM
How many Olympias  has Kevin  won ?

It's official , Phil Heath is better than Kevin Levrone

so larry scott is better too ::)

winning a title in any sport often comes down to being born at the right time

does phil win the o against a prime dorian or ronnie?

NO

E
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 18, 2011, 04:50:40 PM
so larry scott is better too ::)

winning a title in any sport often comes down to being born at the right time

does phil win the o against a prime dorian or ronnie?

NO

E


Not yet...let his physique mature its only his first O. Look at dorian at his first O...in 92..
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 18, 2011, 04:52:44 PM
terrible  physique

Shut up asshole stick to posting pictures and let the brains form sentences...Mr. Negrodamus...i still have all your pms
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Earl1972 on September 18, 2011, 05:01:32 PM

Not yet...let his physique mature its only his first O. Look at dorian at his first O...in 92..

he has been a pro for like 5 years

most pros seem to get worse, not better after that many years

E
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Royalty on September 18, 2011, 06:53:53 PM
Impersonating an officer,
resisting arrest...

fraud, reckless driving
and lying to the sheriff!!

Raw Deal
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 18, 2011, 07:29:07 PM
he has been a pro for like 5 years

most pros seem to get worse, not better after that many years

E

Yes and every show hes votten better, bow many pros can you say that about?
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Benny B on September 18, 2011, 08:30:16 PM
so larry scott is better too ::)

winning a title in any sport often comes down to being born at the right time

does phil win the o against a prime dorian or ronnie?

NO

E
Larry Scott has a better physique than most of the pros currently competing.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Moontrane on September 18, 2011, 11:03:17 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LcbBUX8tzjA/Te5LRpOoQBI/AAAAAAAAGC8/n3CPtO18-6o/s1600/jimi_hendrix_buddy_miles.jpg)

It's been 41 years today.  RIP, Jimi.


Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Parker on September 18, 2011, 11:19:02 PM
Phil is great but is short.
Go ask the general public who is the best up there and all they will reply Dennis Wolf. Tall, wide shoulders, huge legs, wide back, this what is all about, not looking like the Michelin man.
I mean pick your choice, who do you really want to look like?

Gee, you use a fairly in shape Wolf, vs a offseason Phil...and we can't predict what the general pub would want---although Phil's arms surpass Wolf's in terms of detail and shape and freakiness.

And lets not start on back detail...
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Meso_z on September 19, 2011, 12:32:28 AM
   
Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone

Yes he is, move on now.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Tito24 on September 19, 2011, 02:46:12 AM
Shut up asshole stick to posting pictures and let the brains form sentences...Mr. Negrodamus...i still have all your pms

did i hurt your feelings figgs?
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jaime on September 19, 2011, 07:58:19 AM
Calling him "Philsulina" and "a better bodybuilder" sounds like a contradiction...


Unfortunately based on judging criteria it isnt.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: david94 on September 19, 2011, 08:02:22 AM
If Phil competed in the 90's and Levrone today, you would say that Levrone has smouth glutes and legs, no back, too big arms whereas Phil is the most complete shredded everywhere, unbeatable etc...

Always talking shit about the present and venerating the past.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 19, 2011, 08:07:33 AM

Unfortunately based on judging criteria it isnt.

That's a sad fact...
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 19, 2011, 12:31:24 PM

some of you guys are so sheep.....
heath is nowhere close...
Title: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 19, 2011, 12:32:02 PM
some of you guys are such sheep

Title: Re: Yeah heath is better thn levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 19, 2011, 12:34:27 PM
Why dont you try dat again "mon".
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Boost on September 19, 2011, 12:42:56 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 19, 2011, 12:46:48 PM
Id like to see a pic of heath where he matches this density width and thickness..... and kevin has a smaller waist
heath deserved the mr o
but some of you guys are getting carried away
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/97024-1/25+Kevin+Levrone+foto.jpg)
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 19, 2011, 12:47:56 PM
8)

That back double biceps shot is a show stopper and lacks nothing !! his only real flaw is narrow clavicles , he's complete , complete , and complete
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 19, 2011, 12:48:26 PM
or a shot like this notice the CHEST and arms...
please .... i shouldnt even have made this thread

(http://www.bodybuildingweights.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/kevin-levrone-pictures.jpg)
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 19, 2011, 12:51:24 PM
So let me get this straight, you use a video of Levrone and Wheeler, training in the gym, bodybuilders version of "practice", to prove Levrone is better than Phil, no stage shots at all which is in essense their "game".

Dude, this arguement sucks so bad i shouldnt even address it any longer, but I will anyway.
Bodybuilders game is onstage, not in the gym...So  an onstage video of Kevin during "game time" would make a valid arguement.

This is akin to saying on sports team is better than the other and showing practice footage to validate your arguement.

FAIL and FAIL HARD
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Boost on September 19, 2011, 12:54:48 PM
And to think recently many people said Shawn Ray would beat Phil Heath  ::)

Kev never had the consistency in conditioning that Phil shows. Levrone gets blown away from the rear.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Nails on September 19, 2011, 12:55:15 PM
All Phil heath weights in the gym can be lifted by most average gym rats..... Kevin was a strong MoFo .. 500lb bench, 100lb db curls, 405lb behind the neck shoulder presses

Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 19, 2011, 12:58:09 PM
All Phil heath weights in the gym can be lifted by most average gym rats..... Kevin was a strong MoFo .. 500lb bench, 100lb db curls, 405lb behind the neck shoulder presses



Whats your point? This is bodybuilding not powerlifting or strongman..nothing to do with that is being discussed.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Khofo on September 19, 2011, 12:58:20 PM

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(NO HOMo)
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 19, 2011, 12:59:59 PM
So let me get this straight, you use a video of Levrone and Wheeler, training in the gym, bodybuilders version of "practice", to prove Levrone is better than Phil, no stage shots at all which is in essense their "game".

Dude, this arguement sucks so bad i shouldnt even address it any longer, but I will anyway.
Bodybuilders game is onstage, not in the gym...So  an onstage video of Kevin during "game time" would make a valid arguement.

This is akin to saying on sports team is better than the other and showing practice footage to validate your arguement.

FAIL and FAIL HARD

I just came across the vid... and wondered how anyone could say phil is better than levrone... or flex....
but like i said people are sheep..
like that fool DJ.... phil heath ts the greatest mr o or bber of all time... total fool.....
i like phil... and he should have won.....
but take away the arms..... whats show stopping about him.....
mmmmm time will reveal though
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: no one on September 19, 2011, 01:02:56 PM


i never realised how badly nasser sucked from the side until now.

his side poses are as bad as gary strydoms back shots.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 19, 2011, 01:03:01 PM
So let me get this straight, you use a video of Levrone and Wheeler, training in the gym, bodybuilders version of "practice", to prove Levrone is better than Phil, no stage shots at all which is in essense their "game".

Dude, this arguement sucks so bad i shouldnt even address it any longer, but I will anyway.
Bodybuilders game is onstage, not in the gym...So  an onstage video of Kevin during "game time" would make a valid arguement.

This is akin to saying on sports team is better than the other and showing practice footage to validate your arguement.

FAIL and FAIL HARD

this thread did FAIL right from the start lol meso tries hard

not that I agree that Phil is necessarily better than Heath or vice versa 

Kev is better because he's offseason  ;D
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: tbombz on September 19, 2011, 01:04:16 PM

but take away the arms..... whats show stopping about him.....


ummm... everything
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: flinstones1 on September 19, 2011, 01:04:51 PM
I could go to ANY college football weightroom and pic out any brutha with decent muscle bellies, show him getbig and tell him to read gh15. As long as he was black and he had decent response to drugs, He could easily be the next phil heath in a couple years.  Im not exagerrating either I really believe it. I believe mesomorph could be the next phil if he wanted honestly.

 But..  I could NOT find another Kevin. Kevin was 1 in a million, Phil was 1 in 10. A guy in the right place at the right time, with the right hookups and someone to watch over his shoulder who happened to know what he is doing. Phil better than KEVIN. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 19, 2011, 01:05:52 PM
All Phil heath weights in the gym can be lifted by most average gym rats..... Kevin was a strong MoFo .. 500lb bench, 100lb db curls, 405lb behind the neck shoulder presses



And that clearly shows on stage. Phils lack of density is a glaring weakness for people who have an eye for that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: david94 on September 19, 2011, 01:06:06 PM
Again.
Levrone has poor legs, poor back, not good biceps and average condition.
Phil has the most complete package and has the best separation since Flex Wheeler, of course he can beat Kevin.
There is no shame to admit that a modern bodybuilder can beat a bodybuilder from the 90's. They are 2 legends.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: tbombz on September 19, 2011, 01:06:34 PM
I could go to ANY college football weightroom and pic out any brutha with decent muscle bellies, show him getbig and tell him to read gh15. As long as he was black and he had decent response to drugs, He could easily be the next phil heath in a couple years.  Im not exagerrating either I really believe it. I believe mesomorph could be the next phil if he wanted honestly.

 But..  I could NOT find another Kevin. Kevin was 1 in a million, Phil was 1 in 10. A guy in the right place at the right time, with the right hookups and someone to watch over his shoulder who happened to know what he is doing. Phil better than KEVIN. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
meso uses drugs flin.. 
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Iceman1981 on September 19, 2011, 01:06:40 PM
That back double biceps shot is a show stopper and lacks nothing !! his only real flaw is narrow clavicles , he's complete , complete , and complete

True
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 19, 2011, 01:08:07 PM
ummm... everything
cant say I agree there...
pecs, legs???? abs delts.... all would make greatest of all time respectively list......??
no...
anyway i digress
he deserved this my O.... no doubt....
better than cormier levron shawn..coleman... yates.... etc...
no
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: BiGHer on September 19, 2011, 01:09:08 PM
Phil is not top 5 in the 90's!  Maybe not even top 10!  Comparing Kevin to Phil!  That is a disrespect to Kevin and I dont care if Phil has an O and Kevin does not.  Phill will NEVER go against the comp Kevin did, NEVER!

Stop with the Philsulin comparisons GetBig, please stop!  Compare him to who he competes against now, but not true legends!
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: che on September 19, 2011, 01:10:44 PM
Id like to see a pic of heath where he matches this density width and thickness..... and kevin has a smaller waist
heath deserved the mr o
but some of you guys are getting carried away
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/97024-1/25+Kevin+Levrone+foto.jpg)
Post pictures of Kevin on stage retard and then compare.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: flinstones1 on September 19, 2011, 01:11:33 PM
And that clearly shows on stage. Phils lack of density is a glaring weakness for people who have an eye for that kind of thing.


lol you dont need any kind of eye for it. I dont know shit about comparing people's physiques or looking for hardness or density or stuff like that, I have never been to a bodybuilding show in my entire life.But I know what gh15 means when he talks about a physique projecting strength, even a chick who doesn't know a thing about bodybuilding could see the difference between kevin and phil standing side by side. It just looks powerful, and the other one looks frail but large. Hard to explain with words, but easy to see. One of them sends a shiver up your spine, like what is this freak walking towards me Im gonna get the fuck out of the way, you all remember that Kevin video I posted. That shot where he is standing relaxed by the smith machine I look at it everyday in disbelief. Phil on the the other hand reminds me of spongebob inflatable arms. You dont need any kind of "eye" for this.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Hulkotron on September 19, 2011, 01:12:40 PM
100lb db curls

in your face.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 19, 2011, 01:13:56 PM
meso uses drugs flin.. 

your'e a silly guy
why do you want me to use drugs would it explain why i have a better phsyique than yours
....
where is the proof ive used drugs... what my pics and my strength
tbomz i looked better than you look now... when at 170.... my first pics i posted here when i was small still beats you now
its genetics... do i shit on your physique... or accuse you or anyne of stuff....?
no....
Ive never used drugs of any sort and i don't have to.....
a lot of you guys are just envious and spiteful.....


anyway.. this thread is abut heath levrone etc...
try and keep your emotions in check and discuss the topic at hand...
peace
mes
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Parker on September 19, 2011, 01:16:39 PM
Why does Khofo keep posting pics that show Phil owning Nasser? And I don't think Nasser is considered Arab, since he is half Egyptian (African).
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 19, 2011, 01:20:02 PM

lol you dont need any kind of eye for it. I dont know shit about comparing people's physiques or looking for hardness or density or stuff like that, I have never been to a bodybuilding show in my entire life.But I know what gh15 means when he talks about a physique projecting strength, even a chick who doesn't know a thing about bodybuilding could see the difference between kevin and phil standing side by side. It just looks powerful, and the other one looks frail but large. Hard to explain with words, but easy to see. One of them sends a shiver up your spine, like what is this freak walking towards me Im gonna get the fuck out of the way, you all remember that Kevin video I posted. That shot where he is standing relaxed by the smith machine I look at it everyday in disbelief. Phil on the the other hand reminds me of spongebob inflatable arms. You dont need any kind of "eye" for this.

Its hard to explain its just that 'BAM!' factor that the powerful guys had and Phil clearly doesnt have, its more than obvious. Plus hes a weakling for how much he weighs, which is another disappointing factor of his placing. Believe me, alot of jonny come lately juicers can't tell the difference between solid and phony baloni muscle so its good to hear you can see it too
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Akeelsolid on September 19, 2011, 02:00:27 PM
So let me get this straight, you use a video of Levrone and Wheeler, training in the gym, bodybuilders version of "practice", to prove Levrone is better than Phil, no stage shots at all which is in essense their "game".

Dude, this arguement sucks so bad i shouldnt even address it any longer, but I will anyway.
Bodybuilders game is onstage, not in the gym...So  an onstage video of Kevin during "game time" would make a valid arguement.

This is akin to saying on sports team is better than the other and showing practice footage to validate your arguement.

FAIL and FAIL HARD

Agreed.
Don't blame Phil for the FUNK that the past bodybuilders of the 90's did to ruin the sport. All the crazy experiments with drugs and secrecy to "special cocktails" as well as non-human-grade hormones (and most of all the lies) created the culture in bodybuilding that it is now.

I have known Phil since he was a student at Rainer Beach HS when he played ball. He put in the effort and listened and he was patient. For that consistency, he got a full scholorship to play ball at the University of Colorado, but realized he wasn't going to go pro. All the while he kept lifting weights and got more curious about bodybuilding.

I remember when he went to I believe,the Emerald cup, and met former pro Claude Grolux (sp) whom,said he had great genetics. Fast forward to 2011 and he is the BEST bodybuilder on the planet.

How he got to the top was by the template that all the other pro's used to "get ahead" he was just younger and responded better and of course he had Jay! All those year Jay chased Ronnie, he poured all that knowledge to him and now he is Mr.O. Something that makes the past bodybuilders sick to there stomach, because they all wanted, more than a "nibble on the carcuss" and Phil just blew past them.
 
It's pretty easy to be envious of Phil. Has the genes, the response, a good lifestyle, and a gentleman. Sure you can say he is what uncle Joe wanted; well-spoken, former athlete (like Ronnie) a great smile, everything screams markability with him. Could Phil bench 500lbs like Levrone? Yea probably in time or maybe not, but I know for a fact Kevin WILL never dunk a basketball in college hoops, as well as ever win the Mr. Olympia (this is no disrespect to Kevin, just real talk).

I have been aquaintence of his for almost 15 years (rep'in the 206!), and I can say, he is still very much the same quality of a person he was then.

Congrats Phil! and continued success to you.
    
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 19, 2011, 02:05:32 PM
Agreed.
Don't blame Phil for the FUNK that the past bodybuilders of the 90's did to ruin the sport. All the crazy experiments with drugs and secrecy to "special cocktails" as well as non-human-grade hormones (and most of all the lies) created the culture in bodybuilding that it is now.

I have known Phil since he was a student at Rainer Beach HS when he played ball. He put in the effort and listened and he was patient. For that consistency, he got a full scholorship to play ball at the University of Colorado, but realized he wasn't going to go pro. All the while he kept lifting weights and got more curious about bodybuilding.

I remember when he went to I believe,the Emerald cup, and met former pro Claude Grolux (sp) whom,said he had great genetics. Fast forward to 2011 and he is the BEST bodybuilder on the planet.

How he got to the top was by the template that all the other pro's used to "get ahead" he was just younger and responded better and of course he had Jay! All those year Jay chased Ronnie, he poured all that knowledge to him and now he is Mr.O. Something that makes the past bodybuilders sick to there stomach, because they all wanted, more than a "nibble on the carcuss" and Phil just blew past them.
 
It's pretty easy to be envious of Phil. Has the genes, the response, a good lifestyle, and a gentleman. Sure you can say he is what uncle Joe wanted; well-spoken, former athlete (like Ronnie) a great smile, everything screams markability with him. Could Phil bench 500lbs like Levrone? Yea probably in time or maybe not, but I know for a fact Kevin WILL never dunk a basketball in college hoops, as well as ever win the Mr. Olympia (this is no disrespect to Kevin, just real talk).

I have been aquaintence of his for almost 15 years (rep'in the 206!), and I can say, he is still very much the same quality of a person he was then.

Congrats Phil! and continued success to you.
    
  8)
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Nails on September 19, 2011, 02:07:01 PM
NO doubt Phil Heath is bigger rounder and fuller.... its just a different era, and he is learning from what jay cutler learned late in the game insulin is what wins titles

Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Khofo on September 19, 2011, 02:07:08 PM
Why does Khofo keep posting pics that show Phil owning Nasser NasséR(gh15) owning phillipe? .
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: bentone on September 19, 2011, 02:21:43 PM
I have been to the Olympia every year for the past 13 years and can say without a doubt that Phil Heath would hand Levrone his ass. Phil heath would have crushed ANY of the 90's competitors.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: cephissus on September 19, 2011, 02:30:54 PM
lmao at the nasser / heath comparison.

also why does it have to be stage vs stage che?

i mean these guys already add escilene, synthol, implants, SMM inspired gene-splicing experiments, etc. on top of the aas/gh/slin... why not take it all the way and add photoshop as well?

lets see phils best magazine shot vs kevs best!
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Aerian on September 19, 2011, 02:32:28 PM
NO doubt Phil Heath is bigger rounder and fuller.... its just a different era, and he is learning from what jay cutler learned late in the game insulin is what wins titles



That is probably the best Kevin has ever looked (on video atleast).   The question is, could Phil beat that version of Kevin....sure be interesting to see them side by side.

I would lean more towards Kevin but probably more due to nostalgia of that era, soooo not quite sure in the end.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: david94 on September 19, 2011, 02:36:57 PM
That is probably the best Kevin has ever looked (on video atleast).   The question is, could Phil beat that version of Kevin....sure be interesting to see them side by side.

I would lean more towards Kevin but probably more due to nostalgia of that era, soooo not quite sure in the end.

Flex was much better than Kevin in this contest, so if Kevin can be beaten by a narrow guy he can be beaten by Heath.
Heath would have looked crazy with this lighting.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Aerian on September 19, 2011, 02:40:04 PM
Flex was much better than Kevin in this contest, so if Kevin can be beaten by a narrow guy he can be beaten by Heath.
Heath would have looked crazy with this lighting.

This could be very true.  Was just thinking how Phil would look on this specific stage.   Still, when comparing contest shape vs contest shape i dont know of any other videos where Kevin looked better then this.  That means that if Phil could beat this Kevin, you might as well say he is the better bodybuilder.

I am not sure he could beat Flex at his best though. 
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Nails on September 19, 2011, 02:41:58 PM
Back in the gym.... looks a tad smaller then on stage


(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/309874_214393615291320_181157761948239_636778_1354060862_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Wiggs on September 19, 2011, 02:45:18 PM
Back in the gym.... looks a tad smaller then on stage


(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/309874_214393615291320_181157761948239_636778_1354060862_n.jpg)

Should have went to the gym yesterday he would have let me take a pic with the Sandow...  :'(
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: bentone on September 19, 2011, 02:45:52 PM
Phil would DESTROY Flex Wheeler. Flex's condition was best when he was in the 220's this is right around the time he turned pro. At that weight he would be dwarfed by Phil. When Flex got bigger he never was able to get his ham/glutes conditioned. Flex was an amazing bodybuilder and I have seen him in person and onstage several times, The Phil Heath I saw on Friday/Saturday would OWN Flex.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 19, 2011, 02:49:47 PM
Phil would DESTROY Flex Wheeler. Flex's condition was best when he was in the 220's this is right around the time he turned pro. At that weight he would be dwarfed by Phil. When Flex got bigger he never was able to get his ham/glutes conditioned. Flex was an amazing bodybuilder and I have seen him in person and onstage several times, The Phil Heath I saw on Friday/Saturday would OWN Flex.

Flex's main weapon was his aesthetics AND the fact the illusion he appeared larger than he was and this is why he could beat Phil , to say definitively he would beat Flex is misleading and not accurate , he might but I think Flex could beat him , especially from the front. 
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: bentone on September 19, 2011, 02:56:05 PM
Flex was amazing, no doubt about it. One of the best ever. That said Phil is a whole different sort of animal. Flex was amazing from the front and had a crazy rear double biceps. From the front Flex was never as hard and dry as Heath and from the back Phil's lat spread would smoke Flex all day long, not to mention that from the waist down Phil destroys Flex. Flex's calves were so obviously site injected and his hams/glutes were never peeled.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: tbombz on September 19, 2011, 03:22:14 PM
cant say I agree there...
pecs, legs???? abs delts.... all would make greatest of all time respectively list......??
no...
anyway i digress
he deserved this my O.... no doubt....
better than cormier levron shawn..coleman... yates.... etc...
no

pecs legs delts back .. all lof them world class and top ~15 of all time ..  arms.. top 5 all time.. full physique.. top 5-10 all time..  give him a few more years and he will be top 3 all time without question..
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: tbombz on September 19, 2011, 03:23:01 PM

your'e a silly guy
why do you want me to use drugs would it explain why i have a better phsyique than yours
....
where is the proof ive used drugs... what my pics and my strength
tbomz i looked better than you look now... when at 170.... my first pics i posted here when i was small still beats you now
its genetics... do i shit on your physique... or accuse you or anyne of stuff....?
no....
Ive never used drugs of any sort and i don't have to.....
a lot of you guys are just envious and spiteful.....


anyway.. this thread is abut heath levrone etc...
try and keep your emotions in check and discuss the topic at hand...
peace
mes


 ;D bro, i know what someone on drugs looks like
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: L00n on September 19, 2011, 03:26:12 PM
Post pictures of Kevin on stage retard and then compare.

qft
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 19, 2011, 03:29:16 PM
;D bro, i know what someone on drugs looks like
well you are wrong in thius case...
im a very open guy if i was doing any stuff lie that i would say....
im natural bro.... very natural...
always will be....
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: tbombz on September 19, 2011, 03:31:18 PM
well you are wrong in thius case...
im a very open guy if i was doing any stuff lie that i would say....
im natural bro.... very natural...
always will be....

not going to argue with you dude ... i dont tell strangers i use drugs.. just people i respect and am close with
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Stavios on September 19, 2011, 04:56:58 PM
Larry Scott has a better physique than most of the pros currently competing.

absolutely not  ;D
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 19, 2011, 04:59:08 PM

some of you guys are so sheep.....
heath is nowhere close...

Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 19, 2011, 05:15:45 PM
.... this is a bbing board everyone who uses here says for the most part..
i have nothing to hide im a gron man... and i dont or will never use....and kind of enhancers.. much less drugs its an envious mentality thats prevalent here... where if a guy is jacked you accuse him of drugs.. dont now what is wrong with some of you guys
8 yrs and going... and im still natural and will always be...
sorry if you perceive different but you're 100% wrong.. peace
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 19, 2011, 05:18:36 PM
.... this is a bbing board everyone who uses here says for the most part..
i have nothing to hide im a gron man... and i dont or will never use....and kind of enhancers.. much less drugs its an envious mentality thats prevalent here... where if a guy is jacked you accuse him of drugs.. dont now what is wrong with some of you guys
8 yrs and going... and im still natural and will always be...
sorry if you perceive different but you're 100% wrong.. peace

I believe you're natural , you come across as a straight shooter and pretty honest , I think tbomz is upset he doesn't look good as you on gear  ;D
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 19, 2011, 05:26:50 PM
exactly... manI am very direct.... I try not to do anything Im ashamed of or afraid to speak about... if i was on I would say its been 8 yrs of the same shit.... ive seen guys that loo a lot better than me but ive never once accuse anyone of anything or enquire... simply because im very comfortable.... with myself... I dont care who takes what or who doesn't take.
anyway...
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 20, 2011, 12:00:29 AM
I believe you're natural , you come across as a straight shooter and pretty honest , I think tbomz is upset he doesn't look good as you on gear  ;D

now when jamaica boy got the approval of narsisticdietary of his natural status,, everythign can go back to lala land,,

that idiot  need to up the dose and maybe he could show philsulina what foundation mean ,, but no...he will foever remain 190lb soaked wet on gym rat doses,,
go all out and compete already insted of sitting here showing pictures of ron colman mr jamaica boy

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: kiwiol on September 20, 2011, 12:40:52 AM
I could go to ANY college football weightroom and pic out any brutha with decent muscle bellies, show him getbig and tell him to read gh15. As long as he was black and he had decent response to drugs, He could easily be the next phil heath in a couple years. 

No you can't, which is why there's only one Phil Heath out there among all the tens of thousands of competitive bodybuilders who work their butts off and sometimes possibly take even more drugs than what PH takes. You are about the same height as Shawn Ray, who had no freaky standout body parts like Phil and you still wouldn't look anywhere near as good as Shawn if you took what he did or even more.

Not saying PH has the best genetics out there, but it's certainly in the top 0.001% of the population. That is why every year you seen guys compete who do everything they can and still can't be as big or have the structure of the top guys.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Jaime on September 20, 2011, 04:50:35 AM
No you can't, which is why there's only one Phil Heath out there among all the tens of thousands of competitive bodybuilders who work their butts off and sometimes possibly take even more drugs than what PH takes. You are about the same height as Shawn Ray, who had no freaky standout body parts like Phil and you still wouldn't look anywhere near as good as Shawn if you took what he did or even more.

Not saying PH has the best genetics out there, but it's certainly in the top 0.001% of the population. That is why every year you seen guys compete who do everything they can and still can't be as big or have the structure of the top guys.



Sorry but i completely disagree. I see guys with the structure and shape to piss all over someone like Phil pretty regularly. He has good detail and no weaknesses, he is also short with very narrow shoulders and an average waist. Bodybuilding is a fringe sport, nobody with good genetics for sport goes in to bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 20, 2011, 05:20:22 AM
his delts are not narrow...they are round and cupped from abuse of hgh in mega dose with the right anabolics....and ofcourse testosterona ,, whats narrow is his calvicles and his chest structure,, he is small fella

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Naggash on September 20, 2011, 08:07:32 AM
his delts are not narrow...they are round and cupped from abuse of hgh in mega dose with the right anabolics....and ofcourse testosterona ,, whats narrow is his calvicles and his chest structure,, he is small fella

gh15 approved

His narrow clavicles havent been enough to hurt his placings
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 20, 2011, 02:32:40 PM
.... this is a bbing board everyone who uses here says for the most part..

this is where the problem start...this is maybe the utmost wrongest sentence ever put on bodybuild board,, THEY DONT SAY .. they do not admit ,, they lie and lie to make a buck out of fake natural bodybuild,, fellas will go to grave whle they used more than us pros just because they coudnt break 180 because their body wanted to be 180lb because they suited more to fitness modeling or because...who knows used bunk product and legit mix of it all,,

fellas do not DO NOT admit to usage ONLY when its obvious ....210 220 etc...then they may MAY admit ,,,at 230 + they have to admit again im talking single digit bodyfat,,

but! you will notice that the shout ....STEROIDS to your face from bunch of kidos in a fast moving car happen when you hit 200lb in condition ,,this is when you start hearing the steroids shouts from cars riding by and the looks of he is on ....

200lb 5'10 mid single digit

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 20, 2011, 02:38:27 PM
His narrow clavicles havent been enough to hurt his placings

thasts because ....he took rambod,, and rambodo did the following....

i do thikn philsulina understand some of it but since he didnt have enough experience he had to take rambo...and rambo put it to him this way ...

philsulina...you are narrow

what im going to do with you philsulina is... im going to blow you up on gh and insulina to make your delts....rounder thicker meatier and 3 dimentional to the maximus degree,,,

that in return wil make you apppppppppear wider...and will cut the narrow calvicles and chest...

we will also work on THICKNENING THE PECS so they are as thick as possible from front to back

and in adddddition i want you to hav ethe tightest gut so the calvicles really can be narrow and wont disturbe you ,,

we got to do it if we going to win the o and you are wanted to win ,, papa joe want you to win ,,


philsulina respond:

im ready whenever you are,,


rambo respond:

% of the income and or the title money

philsulina respond:

sure thing,, ready whenever you are


rambo:

its still going to be hard we need jason to not be 100% and the others to not be 100%,,,but mainly jason


philsulina respond:

ready whenever you are



rambo:

alright



gh15 approved
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: The Ugly on September 20, 2011, 02:40:45 PM
Blah, blah, blah.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 20, 2011, 02:45:43 PM

lol you dont need any kind of eye for it. I dont know shit about comparing people's physiques or looking for hardness or density or stuff like that, I have never been to a bodybuilding show in my entire life.But I know what gh15 means when he talks about a physique projecting strength, even a chick who doesn't know a thing about bodybuilding could see the difference between kevin and phil standing side by side. It just looks powerful, and the other one looks frail but large. Hard to explain with words, but easy to see. One of them sends a shiver up your spine, like what is this freak walking towards me Im gonna get the fuck out of the way, you all remember that Kevin video I posted. That shot where he is standing relaxed by the smith machine I look at it everyday in disbelief. Phil on the the other hand reminds me of spongebob inflatable arms. You dont need any kind of "eye" for this.


What a fucking homo.....go watch your friend jerk off you fat ugly hairlip
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 20, 2011, 07:17:32 PM
this is where the problem start...this is maybe the utmost wrongest sentence ever put on bodybuild board,, THEY DONT SAY .. they do not admit ,, they lie and lie to make a buck out of fake natural bodybuild,, fellas will go to grave whle they used more than us pros just because they coudnt break 180 because their body wanted to be 180lb because they suited more to fitness modeling or because...who knows used bunk product and legit mix of it all,,

fellas do not DO NOT admit to usage ONLY when its obvious ....210 220 etc...then they may MAY admit ,,,at 230 + they have to admit again im talking single digit bodyfat,,

but! you will notice that the shout ....STEROIDS to your face from bunch of kidos in a fast moving car happen when you hit 200lb in condition ,,this is when you start hearing the steroids shouts from cars riding by and the looks of he is on ....

200lb 5'10 mid single digit

gh15 approved

This is when you start? I was hearing that at 190 upper body without gear fuck you talking about. People are stupid and automatically think a guy with a set of pipes is cranking hard.
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: el numero uno on September 20, 2011, 07:24:59 PM
This is when you start? I was hearing that at 190 upper body without gear fuck you talking about. People are stupid and automatically think a guy with a set of pipes is cranking hard.

I agree, if you're a natty with good genetics, some people (non-lifters ofc) will ask you that.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: 240 is Back on September 20, 2011, 07:27:38 PM
Are you out of your mind ?

lol
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: 240 is Back on September 20, 2011, 07:29:39 PM
People are dying of starvation in Rwanda and having limbs chopped off in Darfur right now.

We're drinking diet soda and arguing about the physiques of half naked bald dudes.

U
S
A
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 20, 2011, 08:13:39 PM
People are dying of starvation in Rwanda and having limbs chopped off in Darfur right now.

We're drinking diet soda and arguing about the physiques of half naked bald dudes.

U
S
A

Yeah really, god bless our democracy lol
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 20, 2011, 08:34:22 PM
This is when you start? I was hearing that at 190 upper body without gear fuck you talking about. People are stupid and automatically think a guy with a set of pipes is cranking hard.

nah,, they wont say a word if you are 170lb conditoned,, fellas are not dumb ,, at 190-200lb conditioned they know you are on drugs because you are on lol ...huge diff between 170 6% and 195 8%.... 195 8% is on hormones YES ALWAYS unless he is a tall fella 6'2... but  5'9 195 8% are on hormones it is just the way it is my friend

peopel are nto dumb ,, they wotn shout you steroids when you are 165 6% ...they may think it or talk to you a little about cycles and about this source or that source but very fast they will realize you are natural after they talk to you ,, when you are 185....6% then it is a big fella ,,thats a big kid to be 185lb 6% and that is when fellas know something is up and that you are on hormones in some way shape or form,,

and yes those 20lb make a diff of NIGHT AND DAY!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 20, 2011, 08:36:29 PM
I agree, if you're a natty with good genetics, some people (non-lifters ofc) will ask you that.

they will ask you this yes,,, but ! they will not shout from a driving car....from the window  STEROIDS...they just wont ,, you wotn be big enough ,, or in other words thick enough ,, the word steroids come to mind only when you got enough thickness to go along with good condition! ,, thats when you wil hear this scream from a moving car...otherwize al you will hear is little question here and there about this and that but never accusations,,

the accusations come when it is obvious,, and obvious it is when you are 190 and mid single digit bf

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: goomba420 on September 20, 2011, 08:38:07 PM
they will ask you this yes,,, but ! they will not shout from a driving car....from the window  STEROIDS...they just wont ,, you wotn be big enough ,, or in other words thick enough ,, the word steroids come to mind only when you got enough thickness to go along with good condition! ,, thats when you wil hear this scream from a moving car...otherwize al you will hear is little question here and there about this and that but never accusations,,

the accusations come when it is obvious,, and obvious it is when you are 190 and mid single digit bf

gh15 approved

when you say natural BBing is a waste of time, don't you think people will take it the wrong way? i have a friend reading your posts that wants to use gear after 3 months in the gym because of u
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: gh15 on September 20, 2011, 08:45:22 PM
no need for using hormones 3 months into the gym ,, this is to early ,, train natural for some time see where it take you ,, but after 2 years you better go on the hormones if you want to get anywhere

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Yeah heath is better than levrone
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 20, 2011, 09:17:51 PM
nah,, they wont say a word if you are 170lb conditoned,, fellas are not dumb ,, at 190-200lb conditioned they know you are on drugs because you are on lol ...huge diff between 170 6% and 195 8%.... 195 8% is on hormones YES ALWAYS unless he is a tall fella 6'2... but  5'9 195 8% are on hormones it is just the way it is my friend

peopel are nto dumb ,, they wotn shout you steroids when you are 165 6% ...they may think it or talk to you a little about cycles and about this source or that source but very fast they will realize you are natural after they talk to you ,, when you are 185....6% then it is a big fella ,,thats a big kid to be 185lb 6% and that is when fellas know something is up and that you are on hormones in some way shape or form,,

and yes those 20lb make a diff of NIGHT AND DAY!

gh15 approved



Ive been 190's under 10% without hormones before so what. Not like I never used before, just not at the time. Its the 200lb+ under 10% that really gets people looking and talking and leaves the women melting at the knees.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: whitewidow on September 20, 2011, 09:20:20 PM
look at kevin these days most getbiggers are bigger than kevin!
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 20, 2011, 09:24:22 PM
look at kevin these days most getbiggers are bigger than kevin!

 He was all drugs.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: flinstones1 on September 20, 2011, 10:14:28 PM
He was all drugs.

u really dont like kevin lol
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 21, 2011, 06:25:23 AM
u really dont like kevin lol

Not true man, I think he was one of the best bodies ever that didnt look disgusting, but the guy relied heavily on drugs. I totally respect what he did in the gym, strong ass upper body. He just shrunk down to zip all which is disappointing thats all.
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: WillGrant on September 21, 2011, 06:29:16 AM

No
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Rampage on September 21, 2011, 11:35:04 AM
I understand alot of what the commentators have been saying and DJs comment when i look at things

Btw , Heath in my humble opinion is not better han levrone , all these pictures indicate is that heath had better condition than levrone in 2002 , ok

but coming back to heath , there is something that his body does that is better than others , and unlike ive seen before , really , and that is being 3d.By that i mean his muscles jump OUT of his frame  rather than just giving 'curves; to his body.Its almost like his skeleton is just the base or frame and his muscle are put on top of it , so clear cute protruding and defined..wow

No one will be able to beat heath now , as the new game is and, hes set the rules, is conditioning with the mass.....only Kai only kai not vic..........i wish cedric would do this thing , cos IMO hell be an all time great
Title: Re: Phil heath is better than Kevin Levrone
Post by: Rampage on September 21, 2011, 11:36:13 AM
And to gh15 :

Bro , you should kno of all ppl , that stage show is alllll about illusion , and who reallly gives a fuck about base and such and such.Yes if the muscle maturity help you look better , you get awarded rightly so , as this is once again REFERRING to looks of the physique RATHER THAN actualities of the physique

Nasser , you were great and still are admirable ,but realise that what you are on about all the time is heaths real muscle and base.Guess what they need a new division to address these criteria , but as for the stage aspect , its allllllllll about the way the body just looks , the illusion.So leave it at that

To say heath is a bad Mr O , c`MON.Yes he may not have a solid base as others , but thats not the criteria on the stage


am i correct ?