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Would Phil last night have beaten this ??? The Mr.Olympia winner from 15 years ago.....
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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No Phil wouldn't be able to compete with that. Dorian looks like a beast when he walks out!
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I will state this again like I did on the Ronnie thread. It is embarassing to compare Phil to these guys.
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Dorian would have smoked Heath.
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phil is a smaller guy and less structure than flex, who had mega problems with ronnie and the likes of yates in their primes? why the fuck are people comparing phil to these guys?
chepanzee started this BS!
keep it real. phil vs kevin, flex or shawn.
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The '90s were the pinnacle for Bbing. Started declining after 1999 aside from the occasional great Ronnie showings (AC 2001, 'O 2003). The rest should have been silence.
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dorian had real muscle.
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Id rather look like Phil Heath than Dorain
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phil collins
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Id rather look like Phil Heath than Dorain
Me too.
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I don't even know if Dorian would have beat Jay yesterday
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I don't even know if Dorian would have beat Jay yesterday
Not only are you a noob, but you just made a noob comment. Congratulations!
SUCKMYYMUSCLE
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I don't even know if Dorian would have beat Jay yesterday
Jays shouldn't even have placed in the top 6.
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Jays shouldn't even have placed in the top 6.
I don't know if Dorian would make a top 15
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Jays shouldn't even have placed in the top 6.
Had Jay's injection site not been obvious he woulda won again....true story.
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Had Jay's injection site not been obvious he woulda won again....true story.
Probably but just because they tend to reward the reigning champion 'til he completely collapses. Jay's conditioning was auwful, 50 inches waist, terrible symmetry. On physique based alone and without the site injection problem, at least 3 or 4 guys were better than him.
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Id rather look like Phil Collins than like Heath
fixed ?
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What "sport" are you referring?
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Id rather look like Phil Heath than Dorain
I still prefer being white ;D
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"Princess L", stop changing the title of every thread...this is ridiculous. Every thread I start in the Gossip&opinion boards you change the title or add something to it even though the titles don't have any expletives and don't break the board's rules in any way. You do this to everyone's threads.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Like tito said Dorian has actual dense muscularity
No contest
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Would Phil last night have beaten this ??? The Mr.Olympia winner from 15 years ago.....
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Nope , although like Dorian , Phil is pretty complete besides having narrow clavicles but Dorian's conditioning and width would crush him
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but who would you rather look like ?
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Agreed that Phil would look like a marshmallow next to Dorian tho
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but who would you rather look like ?
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Agreed that Phil would look like a marshmallow next to Dorian tho
I would rather look like this
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I will state this again like I did on the Ronnie thread. It is embarassing to compare Phil to these guys.
Agreed
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Phil aint ready for Dorian yet.
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Phil aint ready for Dorian yet.
He would never be as wide or as hard or dry , that's never gonna happen
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Would Phil last night have beaten this ??? The Mr.Olympia winner from 15 years ago.....
SUCKMYMUSCLE
They would have given Dorian one obligatory call out and called it a day, giving him straight firsts. Heath is good, and hats off to him, but Dorian in that shape would crush him. Heath would be a very distant second.
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Phil has a far better physique than Dorian. Phil has no weaknesses and has good lines and fullness. Dorian has great condition, no arms and no lines.
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Would Phil last night have beaten this ??? The Mr.Olympia winner from 15 years ago.....
SUCKMYMUSCLE
he would place like tony place usualy now day...10th,, if! he came at his best of the best tip top maxed,, then he wuld have gotten 10th place
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Phil aint ready for Dorian yet.
he will never be,, NO FOUNDATION
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Phil has a far better physique than Dorian. Phil has no weaknesses and has good lines and fullness. Dorian has great condition, no arms and no lines.
he has quitre few wekeness ,,among them ....no calvicles,, that means he is complete dependent of high dose gh usage,, if its taken from him he is done with bodybuild,,
and second weakness which is very noticable...HE IS SMALL! he is not big fella he is 3 dimentional due to mega dose hgh andinsulina,, but he is as big as ken ....which wasnt big...he is small competitor sitting 230-245,, and he is 5'9 ,,
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"Princess L", stop changing the title of every thread...this is ridiculous. Every thread I start in the Gossip&opinion boards you change the title or add something to it even though the titles don't have any expletives and don't break the board's rules in any way. You do this to everyone's threads.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I haven't touched any of yours or anyone else's threads. Get over yourself. I have better things to do than to follow your threads around. ::)
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I haven't touched any of yours or anyone else's threads. Get over yourself. I have better things to do than to follow your threads around. ::)
:D
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Bodybuilding limits were reached in the '90's. The goal today should be to draw in the genetic elite, that's the only way to repeat a Coleman or Yates or something we've never seen before. Phil has an athletic look, so maybe he will appeal to kids who hadn't thought about bodybuilding before.
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dorian looks like garbage compared to heath.
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dorian looks like garbage compared to heath.
but dorian looks like a bber when he has clothes on.
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Phil has a far better physique than Dorian. Phil has no weaknesses and has good lines and fullness. Dorian has great condition, no arms and no lines.
flex, shawn, kevin, cormier, dex, wolfe, branch ::) and the grade school girl all had prettier physiques than yates and ronnie.
who were the better bbers?
phil is lucky jay is such a dog mr o. two times he has been outed.
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he has quitre few wekeness ,,among them ....no calvicles,, that means he is complete dependent of high dose gh usage,, if its taken from him he is done with bodybuild,,
and second weakness which is very noticable...HE IS SMALL! he is not big fella he is 3 dimentional due to mega dose hgh andinsulina,, but he is as big as ken ....which wasnt big...he is small competitor sitting 230-245,, and he is 5'9 ,,
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Bodybuilding is all about illusion. You reckon you competed?
Phil Vs Dorian is a pointless argument as they are a generation apart but for what its worth Dorian would have been top 5 at the weekend if transported in at his best.
Get over yourself, anyone with half a bodybuilding brain can see Heath is a great bodybuilder and worthy winner.
If you have any other questions, please just ask.
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dorian had real muscle.
Substantially *more* anyway...
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Substantially More Dense anyway...
Corrected
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Phil Heath will not be an "ambassador" to the *sport*
BTW, did anyone figure out if Kevin Engrish truly has "Downs Syndrome?"... wait... that was "Coach" (sorry)
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but dorian looks like a bber when he has clothes on.
so does phil
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Phil has a far better physique than Dorian. Phil has no weaknesses and has good lines and fullness. Dorian has great condition, no arms and no lines.
translation - ' I think Phil has a prettier physique '
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flex, shawn, kevin, cormier, dex, wolfe, branch ::) and the grade school girl all had prettier physiques than yates and ronnie.
who were the better bbers?
phil is lucky jay is such a dog mr o. two times he has been outed.
They can't comprehend and separate what will win vs what they think SHOULD win
Here you go , fantastic structure , outstanding genetics , aesthetic classical physique with unmatched lines
and NEVER won a single pro show !
people were bitching Bob Paris should beat Lee Haney because he's more of the ideal physique , same with Labrada , same with Shawn Ray with Dorian , same with Flex Wheeler with Ronnie , same with Serge Nubret and Arnold , etc
pretty physiques DO NOT win contests , aesthetic haven't mattered since Steve Reeves
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dorian looks like garbage compared to heath.
From an aesthetics standpoint? you'll get NO argument but from an IFBB judging criteria standpoint , Dorian beats Heath easily
aesthetics mean shit in contests , what you think should win doesn't matter
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Would Phil last night have beaten this ??? The Mr.Olympia winner from 15 years ago.....
SUCKMYMUSCLE
that dorian would be too much maybe even to a prime Ronnie. BUT, Dorian never looked like this in a Olympia stage, always much more flatter.
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From an aesthetics standpoint? you'll get NO argument but from an IFBB judging criteria standpoint , Dorian beats Heath easily
aesthetics mean shit in contests , what you think should win doesn't matter
Yes, to complement ND's posts - and we are pretty much the only two guys in this board who truly understand bodybuilding judging on a deep level - this is what matters when it comes to deciding who wins bodybuilding contests:
- The development of the muscles.
- The proportionality between them.
- The proportionality of the skeletal frame
- The quality of the muscles - conditioning, or how much detail(vascularity, separations and striations) the muscles are showing,
These four criterias are acessed in the seven mandatories of the muscularity round and the three angles of the symmetry round at once.
The only exception to this is the posing round, when all the criteria is accessed but also an artistic element that depends on the talent of the bodybuilder.
Who wins depends on these four criterias acessed all at once in the two rounds. Aesthetics, or the shape of the muscles, are simply not a part of the criteria
SUCKMYMUSCLE