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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: el numero uno on September 19, 2011, 09:51:11 PM
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Flex is...? ???
(http://www.foropesas.com.ar/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4008.0;attach=83104;image;image)
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Flex looks just as narrow as Phil, but you dont hear people complain about Flexs width ??? ???
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Both on loads of slin here. Plastic look.
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Both on loads of slin here. Plastic look.
Flex never looked so soft.
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Yes, Dorian was better
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(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/60789-1/19+Flex+Wheeler+picture.jpg)
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flex imo had the greatest physique of all time...
in terms of shape aestetics and balance... ronnie is the only one that had his number imo
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Phil is better
flex has no calve , no forearms , not enough dry and his usage of oil kill his credibility I mean oil visible to the naked eye
Personally I dont care if phil put oil in his arms , his arms are hard and great separation we can blame it
bodybuilding is just like cars tunning , you can change everything and modify stuff at purpose to look good
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flex imo had the greatest physique of all time...
in terms of shape aestetics and balance...
I've never understand all the talk about how flex is aestetics ... yes he was in the early 90's. flex is so fard behind shawn ray
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??? ::)
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/120846-1/25+Phil+Heath+pic.jpg)
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flex imo had the greatest physique of all time...
in terms of shape aestetics and balance... ronnie is the only one that had his number imo
Aesthetics yes, balance no.
Lacked quad size to match his arms and had a small torso as well as underdeveloped calves and no forearms.
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Flex looks just as narrow as Phil, but you dont hear people complain about Flexs width ??? ???
nasser did http://hugenasser.com/interview/flex-interview-1997 (amongst other things)
tbh i always preferred the lighter weight, early 90's flex look to just about any other look. wasnt a fan once he started inflating, but the 'sport' is what it is.
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First do not judge bodybuilders by the pics. Videos are much better for comparison.
Judges loved Flex's physique. He dominated everybody when he was on(except the two guys you know) and when he wasn't 100% he still won many of the shows he entered.
It's really hard to put Phil on 90s lineup. He has so many visible flaws(small chest, legs don't match his upper body, crappy midsection). He has good poses like bdb but on the other hand his front lat spread looks like shit. It's even harder to judge because Phil has a ton of muscle and he's in good condition too.
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Phil is better
flex has no calve , no forearms , not enough dry and his usage of oil kill his credibility I mean oil visible to the naked eye
Personally I dont care if phil put oil in his arms , his arms are hard and great separation we can blame it
bodybuilding is just like cars tunning , you can change everything and modify stuff at purpose to look good
You just contradicted yourself.
You said that Flex's usage of oil kills his cred, but you don't care if Phil put oil in his arms...WTF...
And yeah, flex had detailed calves at one point...
Flex at 218 was 2nd his first Mr. O, won his first 4 Pro shows...Phil had to gain size in order to best Jay...no way could he come in at 218 and win or come in 2nd place...Flex had a claimed 26-27 inch waist back in those days...and at the 93 Mr. O, his waist was smaller than Shawn's or Lebrada, who was around 205 and 180ish, respectively.
Flex has more seperation, and detail, his only flashes where the 93, 97, 98, and 99...
Had Flex not had that car accident, we might not be talking about Ronnie or Phil.
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No way was Flex's waist 26 parker, i have a 27-28 inch waist and my lower back is less developed than Flex.
He had better lines than Phil did and could compete at a lower bodyweight because of that, but he had his weaknesses. Overall Flex has better genetics than Phil, as you said Phil had to really bulk to balance out his weaknesses.
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No way was Flex's waist 26 parker, i have a 27-28 inch waist and my lower back is less developed than Flex.
He had better lines than Phil did and could compete at a lower bodyweight because of that, but he had his weaknesses. Overall Flex has better genetics than Phil, as you said Phil had to really bulk to balance out his weaknesses.
I wouldn't doubt 27"
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BIG RON COLEMAN Y'ALL
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thats amazing haha
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The title already changed, thanks mods ::)
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I wouldn't doubt 27"
28-29 fantastic lines. Most people 32 say 30 et cetera.
Far better than Phils genetics imo.
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No way was Flex's waist 26 parker, i have a 27-28 inch waist and my lower back is less developed than Flex.
He had better lines than Phil did and could compete at a lower bodyweight because of that, but he had his weaknesses. Overall Flex has better genetics than Phil, as you said Phil had to really bulk to balance out his weaknesses.
Flex is a pure ectomorph and his bone and muscle structure is like that of Brian Buchanan...small wrists, ankles, knees, and waist...which part of the reason why his round muscle bellies looked fuller...
Flex was competing at 198 at the height of 5'10, back in 89 or 90 (not surre about 91),
and won his Pro car at 215 in 92, and the Arnold at 216...most guys at his height were pushing 240-250 at the time...
I'll give him 27, but not 26...
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Flex is a pure ectomorph and his bone and muscle structure is like that of Brian Buchanan...small wrists, ankles, knees, and waist...which part of the reason why his round muscle bellies looked fuller...
Flex was competing at 198 at the height of 5'10, back in 89 or 90 (not surre about 91),
and won his Pro car at 215 in 92, and the Arnold at 216...most guys at his height were pushing 240-250 at the time...
I'll give him 27, but not 26...
Probably more like 28 29....do you know how small a 26 inch waist is ? No way in fucking hell a 225 lb man has a 26 or 27 inch waist...that would be a small waist on a 125 pound female....you guys really need to stop believing the horseshit in the muscle comics
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Probably more like 28 29....do you know how small a 26 inch waist is ? No way in fucking hell a 225 lb man has a 26 or 27 inch waist...that would be a small waist on a 125 pound female....you guys really need to stop believing the horseshit in the muscle comics
I agree about the 27" at 225lbs , Brian Buchanan said his waist in top shape was 27" at just 210lbs which is abnormally small
But you really have to take what Flex says with a massive grain of salt , the guys word is suspect on most things
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Probably more like 28 29....do you know how small a 26 inch waist is ? No way in fucking hell a 225 lb man has a 26 or 27 inch waist...that would be a small waist on a 125 pound female....you guys really need to stop believing the horseshit in the muscle comics
Exactly , in shape I have a real 27'' waist (without sucking my gut in ) ,no fucking way Flex had smaller waist than me.
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Probably more like 28 29....do you know how small a 26 inch waist is ? No way in fucking hell a 225 lb man has a 26 or 27 inch waist...that would be a small waist on a 125 pound female....you guys really need to stop believing the horseshit in the muscle comics
When I said 26, I was actually thinking "Melvin Anthony", he's the one claimed 26...
Flex has stated 27, several times---although, he told Arnold that he had 22.5 inch arms at the 93 Arnold Classic---at at bodyweight of 216, yeah right...
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Exactly , in shape I have a real 27'' waist (without sucking my gut in ) ,no fucking way Flex had smaller waist than me.
lol how do you find well fitting pants with only 27 inch waist? The smallest waist size is 30 in most stores.
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lol how do you find well fitting pants with only 27 inch waist? The smallest waist size is 30 in most stores.
Pants?
Hahaha
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your waist is really small in proportion to the rest of your body
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flex .. "prettiest " physique
ronnie was just a bigger more brutal version of flex
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your waist is really small in proportion to the rest of your body
That's what I'm saying , in that pic my waist is about 28'' , my arms 16'' , my legs 25'' , imagine how freaky I would look with 21'' arms, 30'' legs ..
these guys are fucking liars .
Here true 27 inch waist.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.gr/attachment.php?attachmentid=651&stc=1&d=1238142932)
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Flex is a pure ectomorph and his bone and muscle structure is like that of Brian Buchanan...small wrists, ankles, knees, and waist...which part of the reason why his round muscle bellies looked fuller...
Flex was competing at 198 at the height of 5'10, back in 89 or 90 (not surre about 91),
and won his Pro car at 215 in 92, and the Arnold at 216...most guys at his height were pushing 240-250 at the time...
I'll give him 27, but not 26...
Im pure ecto, i have like 6 and a half inch wrists lol. I know what a 27 inch waist looks like and it does not correspond to what i see in pictures.
Brian had a smaller waist than Flex.
A 26 inch waist is getting in to petite woman territory and it looks completely different to most of theses pros and their measurements.
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Probably more like 28 29....do you know how small a 26 inch waist is ? No way in fucking hell a 225 lb man has a 26 or 27 inch waist...that would be a small waist on a 125 pound female....you guys really need to stop believing the horseshit in the muscle comics
This is about right. My waist around the belly button was 25 inches when I was 16 at a weight of 127lbs...
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Pants?
Hahaha
Great shot che! 8)
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Flex is a pure ectomorph and his bone and muscle structure is like that of Brian Buchanan...small wrists, ankles, knees, and waist...which part of the reason why his round muscle bellies looked fuller...
Flex was competing at 198 at the height of 5'10, back in 89 or 90 (not surre about 91),
and won his Pro car at 215 in 92, and the Arnold at 216...most guys at his height were pushing 240-250 at the time...
I'll give him 27, but not 26...
What kind of car did he win? ;D
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che you are better than phillip heath
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Im pure ecto, i have like 6 and a half inch wrists lol. I know what a 27 inch waist looks like and it does not correspond to what i see in pictures.
Brian had a smaller waist than Flex.
A 26 inch waist is getting in to petite woman territory and it looks completely different to most of theses pros and their measurements.
The problem is that you are comparing your genetics with him...There is a pic of JoJo with a unreal sick taper, I'll find it later...
Jojo is from Ghana, firmly believe that Brian and Flex and Melvin could trace their genetics to around that part of W. Africa...all have the same physique, all have the same full round muscle bellies with tiny joints.
Take a look at this pic
(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?725-Flex-Wheeler.)
I forgot how tall Brian Buchanan is, now he is doing a vacuum in that pic, which makes his waist even smaller. But if you were to take both of them side by side, Flex's waist would possibly match his. Now, at the 93 Mr. O, Flex's waist was smaller than Labrada's, who was about 180 pounds...
Of all the measurements Flex throughout---even his "32 inch quads" (Mass Construction vid, while doing legs), the 27 inch waist during his rookie yr is the most believable, as he didn't weigh that much.
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ronnie was better than both. :P
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Great shot che! 8)
che you are better than phillip heath
MELTDOWN.
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The problem is that you are comparing your genetics with him...There is a pic of JoJo with a unreal sick taper, I'll find it later...
Jojo is from Ghana, firmly believe that Brian and Flex and Melvin could trace their genetics to around that part of W. Africa...all have the same physique, all have the same full round muscle bellies with tiny joints.
Take a look at this pic
(http://forum.ilovespam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=87&stc=1&d=1084938165)
I forgot how tall Brian Buchanan is, now he is doing a vacuum in that pic, which makes his waist even smaller. But if you were to take both of them side by side, Flex's waist would possibly match his. Now, at the 93 Mr. O, Flex's waist was smaller than Labrada's, who was about 180 pounds...
Of all the measurements Flex throughout---even his "32 inch quads" (Mass Construction vid, while doing legs), the 27 inch waist during his rookie yr is the most believable, as he didn't weigh that much.
Buchanan was I believe 5'10" right around's Flex's height
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Buchanan was I believe 5'10" right around's Flex's height
I think Brian had better lats than Flex...
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I think Brian had better lats than Flex...
Better taper to
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Better taper to
He looks like shit now.
(http://static.igossip.com/photos/splashnews_Eddie_Murphy_80203_post_image_eddie_murphy_ripped_shirtless_spl108073_001.jpg)
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In the spirit of dumb comparisons... who wins this one?
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Better taper to
But quads were left wanting...Flex has him on quad sweep and size...
If Flex did the vacuum his upper body would look like that.
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I have 28 or 29 inch waist at 10% bodyfat or whatever, in high school I was 26 or so I believe, wore a belt with 28 waist pants lol what was I gonna say
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Very few black men have wide shoulders, their shoulders and their waists are usually a similar size, and even when they do have wide shoulders, they don't have that hulking look that arnold had, i guess the term is lazy shoulders or droopy shoulders, no black man has this. I kind of have it with a 38 inch chest, dunno what I am around the shoulders, but this look doesn' exist in black men. Ronnie had something similar, but not until he weighed 280 on stage, which is when his shoulders couldnt help but look a little lazy from the weight of his arms, giving him a look of power. DUnno why it is, black men are just generally not wide at the shoulders, and when they are, it still doesn't look wide.
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I have 28 or 29 inch waist at 10% bodyfat or whatever, in high school I was 26 or so I believe, wore a belt with 28 waist pants lol what was I gonna say
oh yeah
Very few black men have wide shoulders, their shoulders and their waists are usually a similar size, and even when they do have wide shoulders, they don't have that hulking look that arnold had, i guess the term is lazy shoulders or droopy shoulders, no black man has this. I kind of have it with a 38 inch chest, dunno what I am around the shoulders, but this look doesn' exist in black men. Ronnie had something similar, but not until he weighed 280 on stage, which is when his shoulders couldnt help but look a little lazy from the weight of his arms, giving him a look of power. DUnno why it is, black men are just generally not wide at
the shoulders, and when they are, it still doesn't look wide.
Dillett had that slooping shoulder thing, which does look unaesthetic, even Arnold himself didn't like his shoulders.
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Dillett had that slooping shoulder thing, which does look unaesthetic, even Arnold himself didn't like his shoulders.
Ur right, fuck what arnold thinks, he looked awesome
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Ur right, fuck what arnold thinks, he looked awesome
I was saying that Arnold didn't like his own shoulders.
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I was saying that Arnold didn't like his own shoulders.
I know, I;m saying he looked great despite what he thought. Btw, reference to when he said that? Just curious
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notice how shitty flex's oily delts and tiny chest look in comparison with big ron
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He looks like shit now.
(http://static.igossip.com/photos/splashnews_Eddie_Murphy_80203_post_image_eddie_murphy_ripped_shirtless_spl108073_001.jpg)
hahahaha Brian needs to up the does again
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I know, I;m saying he looked great despite what he thought. Btw, reference to when he said that? Just curious
Arnold's Encyclopedia of Bbing, he reference Dillett and talks about his own slope shoulders.
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notice how shitty flex's oily delts and tiny chest look in comparison with big ron
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Ronnie was in NO way shape or form aesthetic even at his best. More to aesthetics than a narrow waist & hips and a great taper
According to the Greek Ideal aesthetic muscles are deltoids , calves and abdominals and Ronnie is missing two out of three :-\ not to mention balance & proportion ( calves , neck and arms should all be the exact same size )
Ronnie is a freak of nature , massive beyond all belief but aesthetic he's not
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Arnold's Encyclopedia of Bbing, he reference Dillett and talks about his own slope shoulders.
slope this :P
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notice how shitty flex's oily delts and tiny chest look in comparison with big ron
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You are retarded
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This is the yardstick in which all aesthetics is measured by
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Underrated
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/45/images/Aaron_Baker_photo25.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/45/images/Aaron_Baker_photo16.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/45/images/Aaron_Baker_photo126.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/45/images/Aaron_Baker_photo44.jpg)
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The term aesthetic is one of a favourable visual presentation. Therefore I would suggest there isn't "the most aesthetic of all time" because measures of aesthetics are unique. For example, we don't look for the greatest artwork of all time yet have favorites and value inherent quality.
Melvin Anthony, Frank Zane, Serge Nubret, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Francis Benfatto and Bob Paris are all physiques that come to mind when discussing aesthetics.
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Ronnie was in NO way shape or form aesthetic even at his best. More to aesthetics than a narrow waist & hips and a great taper
According to the Greek Ideal aesthetic muscles are deltoids , calves and abdominals and Ronnie is missing two out of three :-\ not to mention balance & proportion ( calves , neck and arms should all be the exact same size )
Ronnie is a freak of nature , massive beyond all belief but aesthetic he's not
I would think calves and forearmsshould be the same size...as they are the ends of each of our limbs...
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The term aesthetic is one of a favourable visual presentation. Therefore I would suggest there isn't "the most aesthetic of all time" because measures of aesthetics are unique. For example, we don't look for the greatest artwork of all time yet have favorites and value inherent quality.
Melvin Anthony, Frank Zane, Serge Nubret, Arnold Scwarzenegger, Francis Benfatto and Bob Paris are all physiques that come to mind when discussing aesthetics.
I'll have to disagree that Arnold was aesthetic. The rest of those names are a lock
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The term aesthetic is one of a favourable visual presentation. Therefore I would suggest there isn't "the most aesthetic of all time" because measures of aesthetics are unique. For example, we don't look for the greatest artwork of all time yet have favorites and value inherent quality.
Melvin Anthony, Frank Zane, Serge Nubret, Arnold Scwarzenegger, Francis Benfatto and Bob Paris are all physiques that come to mind when discussing aesthetics.
I agree 100%.
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Ronnie was in NO way shape or form aesthetic even at his best. More to aesthetics than a narrow waist & hips and a great taper
According to the Greek Ideal aesthetic muscles are deltoids , calves and abdominals and Ronnie is missing two out of three :-\ not to mention balance & proportion ( calves , neck and arms should all be the exact same size )
Ronnie is a freak of nature , massive beyond all belief but aesthetic he's not
are we talking herculean or adonis?
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success - Arnold
better bber - Heath
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Symmetry will matter to me this time. I will have great symmetry, shoulder to waist ratio, Hopefully, it will be better than most bodybuilders on the contest stage will have. My waist currently is 26 ½ inches around. I have 31 inch quads. I am not afraid to attempt 700 pounds squats. I like to train heavy.. This game is changing into a conditioning game, moving back towards having a physique. I feel the judges are pulling these guys out first. You can only make money if you are competitive in this sport. . I am looking forward to battling it out on stage!
(http://www.getbig.com/iview/anthony030117c.jpg)
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Flex looks just as narrow as Phil, but you dont hear people complain about Flexs width ??? ???
so you prefer kevin english? sure hes wide but not the best 202 physique. steve reeves would be turning in his grave
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Jojo's pics
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=313984.0;attach=354373;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=313984.0;attach=354375;image)
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I wonder what Arnie thinks of Phils physque?
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This is the yardstick in which all aesthetics is measured by
Agreed.
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I wonder what Arnie thinks of Phils physque?
I remember Arnold was STARING at Kai physique when he handed him the AC trophy.
My guess is that he would be impressed as hell... but keep himself "cool" at all costs :D..like "its ok, if I could use as much as him blah blah". ::)
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Arnold foundations
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/561/schwarzeneggerb.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/schwarzeneggerb.jpg/)
Phil Heath 31 years old 9 years of training only
(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/90/pb11314wtmknfdbzkicby.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/pb11314wtmknfdbzkicby.jpg/)
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I wish Arnold.was more involved personally, like interviews from Arnold about whay he thinks of.bodybuilding today, whose his favorite etc...id actually buy a musclemagazine.
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This is the yardstick in which all aesthetics is measured by
perfect (no homo)