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..African Americans?
Keeping in mind that Barack Obama is truly as much white as he is black (due to his white mother and black father), what will this truly mean to the African American folks who saw Obama as their great "black" hope and his presidency as the true change of an era, if he were to go down as history's worst president?
What message would this send to white America regarding their ability to trust any person of color who is granted a position of such power?
What will it mean to other minority groups?
Will it possibly affect the ability for a Latino person to ever become president?
This question was heavily debated yesterday in a GAY bar by New York University where a bunch of poli-sci students got together to argue over this.
Your take?
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He's also the best African American president ever....huh!
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He's also the best African American president ever....huh!
no i think washington was better
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Perhaps...
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no i think washington was better
He said best African American president, not the best American president who spent the most time in African Americans.
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He said best African American president, not the best American president who spent the most time in African Americans.
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Hahahah ;D
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..African Americans?
Keeping in mind that Barack Obama is truly as much white as he is black (due to his white mother and black father), what will this truly mean to the African American folks who saw Obama as their great "black" hope and his presidency as the true change of an era, if he were to go down as history's worst president?
What message would this send to white America regarding their ability to trust any person of color who is granted a position of such power?
What will it mean to other minority groups?
Will it possibly affect the ability for a Latino person to ever become president?
This question was heavily debated yesterday in a GAY bar by New York University where a bunch of poli-sci students got together to argue over this.
Your take?
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Obama, can bankrupt the country, start 10 more wars, fuck up the USA and still not be 1/2 as bad as George W Bush was.
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Obama, can bankrupt the country, start 10 more wars, fuck up the USA and still not be 1/2 as bad as George W Bush was.
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..African Americans?
Keeping in mind that Barack Obama is truly as much white as he is black (due to his white mother and black father), what will this truly mean to the African American folks who saw Obama as their great "black" hope and his presidency as the true change of an era, if he were to go down as history's worst president?
What message would this send to white America regarding their ability to trust any person of color who is granted a position of such power?
What will it mean to other minority groups?
Will it possibly affect the ability for a Latino person to ever become president?
This question was heavily debated yesterday in a GAY bar by New York University where a bunch of poli-sci students got together to argue over this.
Your take?
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A latino president is not far off. Hispanics will be 50% majority in the US in 20 more years. They come here and reproduce like bunnies. Getting 50 million hispanics to vote for you being a Hispanic candidate might be easy. Now is the time for the latinos to find a 20 year old smart good looking hispanic and start grooming him for 20 years, then have him run in the primary.
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First of all Obama Barack Hussein is not President because he was not born in The United States. That being said, I think we can safely anticipate a long string of Caucasian, European descended, male Presidents Of The United States. Now the position is considered vacant.
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..African Americans?
Keeping in mind that Barack Obama is truly as much white as he is black (due to his white mother and black father), what will this truly mean to the African American folks who saw Obama as their great "black" hope and his presidency as the true change of an era, if he were to go down as history's worst president?
What message would this send to white America regarding their ability to trust any person of color who is granted a position of such power?
What will it mean to other minority groups?
Will it possibly affect the ability for a Latino person to ever become president?
This question was heavily debated yesterday in a GAY bar by New York University where a bunch of poli-sci students got together to argue over this.
Your take?
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He is not and cannot be; Woodrow Wilson is by FAR the worst president in the history of the country by a long shot...
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Nothing, as African Americans do not greatly influence politics.....and the influence that exists today(magnified by the media, much less so at the ballot box aside from a few states and some large cities) will further decline once there is a Hispanic majority. The new Hispanic majority, comprised of people whose descendants are from Central and South America, will be much less likely to cowtow to Black race hustlers and not be overly enthusiastic in constructing another MLK monument. The new Hispanic majority will not fear the African-American "civil rights" cabal and attempt to placate them at every turn, unlike US Whites do.
Blacks, along with largely unskilled Central Americans, are more likely to keep increasingly for-profit private prisons full and stocked. Born into ever increasing broken families, the cycle will only continue and grow.
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Nothing, as African Americans do not greatly influence politics.....and the influence that exists today(magnified by the media, much less so at the ballot box aside from a few states and some large cities) will further decline once there is a Hispanic majority. The new Hispanic majority, comprised of people whose descendants are from Central and South America, will be much less likely to cowtow to Black race hustlers and not be overly enthusiastic in constructing another MLK monument. The new Hispanic majority will not fear the African-American "civil rights" cabal and attempt to placate them at every turn, unlike US Whites do.
Blacks, along with largely unskilled Central Americans, are more likely to keep increasingly for-profit private prisons full and stocked. Born into ever increasing broken families, the cycle will only continue and grow.
Latinos are using "Civil Rights" advantage...the prblen with many Central Americans, is that they don't see themselves as Americans...and they segregate themselves from the gen pop, refusing to learn English and want everything their way (like the Muslims in Europe), there is a huge, huge presence of MS-13 in the El Savadorian population---almost like you have to join to come over...
But, what may happen due to the lack of available black men (because women are not doing their jobs), black women maybe marrying and having kids with more Latino men (2nd gen), thus creating a situation where there is further conhesion between Latinos and blacks.
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Actually Mexicans cow tow to race hustling and stupid liberal creation such as affirmative action much more than even blacks always have. Blacks and latinos both ultimately want the same thing, to unseat what they see as "white power" and basically ruin the country.
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Open youre eyes.Obama is great president!!!
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.....what do you mean by "IF"?
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First of all Obama Barack Hussein is not President because he was not born in The United States. That being said, I think we can safely anticipate a long string of Caucasian, European descended, male Presidents Of The United States. Now the position is considered vacant.
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Obama, can bankrupt the country, start 10 more wars, fuck up the USA and still not be 1/2 as bad as George W Bush was.
Because it was all of Bush's fault ::)!
BTW, Hi Benny
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He's also the best African American president ever....huh!
that's like the tallest midget in the room.
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Hilary Clinton would have made a better job
there I said it 8)
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Actually Mexicans cow tow to race hustling and stupid liberal creation such as affirmative action much more than even blacks always have. Blacks and latinos both ultimately want the same thing, to unseat what they see as "white power" and basically ruin the country.
There are far more women of any race or ethnicity earning grad degrees and going to Law School than men, so who really benefitted from Affirm Action?
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This would of happened to any president after George W. Bush. Black, white, brown or yellow. Like it or not it's the truth.
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This would of happened to any president after George W. Bush. Black, white, brown or yellow. Like it or not it's the truth.
Another Obama apologist.
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.....what do you mean by "IF"?
+1,000,000
Placing the blame for his failed fiscal policies on "millionaires" on a daily basis.
Even worse than Jimmy Carter.
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every sitting president has been called for the most part the worst president ever, think bush w, clinton, etc etc, only after do they recognize what good they actually did. Obama will be remembered for standing up for the working man, and doing the right thing for Palestine. He is a hero.
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every sitting president has been called for the most part the worst president ever, think bush w, clinton, etc etc, only after do they recognize what good they actually did. Obama will be remembered for standing up for the working man, and doing the right thing for Palestine. He is a hero.
A sweetheart deal for the UAW thru GM and passed on to the taxpayer isn't "standing up for the working man".
Now that he has taken sides against Israel, watch how his Jewish voting block and the mainstream/hollywood media turn on him. The New York 9 and Nevada election results are a precursor of things to come.
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Okay...
1.Inherited a dying economy with Unemployment not reaching the double digits as it was rapidly approaching before the stimulus slowed (not completely stopped) the bleeding. Yes, 9.1% unemployment, but you must admit it could have easily been much worse.
2. Basically ended our involvement in Iraq
3. USA safe under his watch
4. Saved Detroit car industry
5. Bin Laden dead.
6. DADT repealed
7. Aided in the liberation of Libya without one US casualty.
8. Taxes are lowest since the 50s, while re-passing passing Bush corporate tax cuts in bi-partisan work with Republicans (yet they still won't hire).
9. Passed healthcare reform that could have been much better with a public option provided by government to combat the ridiculous premiums of private insurance companies, but covers pre-existing conditions.
10. Governing in the most toxic, broken Congress in history.
Who can beat him? Succession/states-right Rick Perry (Bush + more Texas), flip-flopping Mormon (no good with Christian right) Romney, batshit-crazy Bachmann, far right will never vote for the black Pizza-man Cain, Ron Paul, Gingrich? The only reasonable candidate who believes in fundamental human rights ,science and has first hand experience (fluent in Mandarin and knows their political system) with our biggest rival China, Huntsman is dead last. The tea party will divide the Republican party and ultimately sink its chances of winning.
Do I think Obama is perfect? No. But he has done well considering the obstacles he has had to face.
Obama 2012
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every sitting president has been called for the most part the worst president ever, think bush w, clinton, etc etc, only after do they recognize what good they actually did. Obama will be remembered for standing up for the working man, and doing the right thing for Palestine. He is a hero.
This about sums it up. Well put.
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Okay...
1.Inherited a dying economy with Unemployment not reaching the double digits as it was rapidly approaching before the stimulus slowed (not completely stopped) the bleeding. Yes, 9.1% unemployment, but you must admit it could have easily been much worse.
2. Basically ended our involvement in Iraq
3. USA safe under his watch
4. Saved Detroit car industry
5. Bin Laden dead.
6. DADT repealed
7. Aided in the liberation of Libya without one US casualty.
8. Taxes are lowest since the 50s, while re-passing passing Bush corporate tax cuts in bi-partisan work with Republicans (yet they still won't hire).
9. Passed healthcare reform that could have been much better with a public option provided by government to combat the ridiculous premiums of private insurance companies, but covers pre-existing conditions.
10. Governing in the most toxic, broken Congress in history.
Who can beat him? Succession/states-right Rick Perry (Bush + more Texas), flip-flopping Mormon (no good with Christian right) Romney, batshit-crazy Bachmann, far right will never vote for the black Pizza-man Cain, Ron Paul, Gingrich? The only reasonable candidate who believes in fundamental human rights ,science and has first hand experience (fluent in Mandarin and knows their political system) with our biggest rival China, Huntsman is dead last. The tea party will divide the Republican party and ultimately sink its chances of winning.
Do I think Obama is perfect? No. But he has done well considering the obstacles he has had to face.
Obama 2012
Team Obama
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every sitting president has been called for the most part the worst president ever, think bush w, Clinton, etc etc, only after do they recognize what good they actually did. Obama will be remembered for standing up for the working man, and doing the right thing for Palestine. He is a hero.
I don't know about you, but while Clinton was in office he was fantastic. He was great during his first 4 years (Everyone loved him Democrats and Republicans) and he was awesome during his second term.
Aside from getting his dick sucked in the White House (I could have done a better job than Monica Lewinsky), he was America's golden boy.
White enough for Republicans and spicy enough for the democrats..
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Don't be fooled one bit. Obama's new Tax Increase Plan has nothing to do with stimulating the economy, Obama is implementing measures to flatten income inequality.
Even Democrats won't back that idea when push comes to shove. The rats will jump ship - my guess is Dick Durbin will lead the charge.
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Okay...
1.Inherited a dying economy with Unemployment not reaching the double digits as it was rapidly approaching before the stimulus slowed (not completely stopped) the bleeding. Yes, 9.1% unemployment, but you must admit it could have easily been much worse.
The stimulus did nothing but kick the can down the road, it essentially just gave the banks what they wanted, more money. There's absolutely no evidence that it unemployment would have been higher or sustained at the levels it has been if there was no stimulus. In fact while it could have spiked into the 20% range it would have fell much quicker and we would have been on the way into recovery at this point. Instead now we are facing a much worse criss than we were facing in 2008 and a larger recession is coming. It's this complete misunderstanding of the markets that got us into this mess.
2. Basically ended our involvement in Iraq
We have 44,000 troops as of July 2011 still in Iraq, I don't see how how that's "ended our invovlement".
3. USA safe under his watch
The us was safe under Bush's watch for 7 years, so what?
4. Saved Detroit car industry
Saved as in pumped money into insolvent companies that should have failed in a free market system? He didn't save it, the American people's bank accounts did.
5. Bin Laden dead.
Where's the body?
6. DADT repealed
Woopty doo.
7. Aided in the liberation of Libya without one US casualty.
Went to war with a nation without a declration of war from congress. Good job at circumventing the constitution. He should be strung up for treason.
8. Taxes are lowest since the 50s, while re-passing passing Bush corporate tax cuts in bi-partisan work with Republicans (yet they still won't hire).
And yet government spending, growth and deficits are higher than they've ever been and the national debt is 15 trillion dollars, over 100% of GDP. Great job.
9. Passed healthcare reform that could have been much better with a public option provided by government to combat the ridiculous premiums of private insurance companies, but covers pre-existing conditions.
A health care so great over half the states are suing the federal government over it's non-constitutionality. A health care bill so awesome that it will cost small business millions of dollars in additional paperwork and regulations stifling growth and job creation. Good job once again.
10. Governing in the most toxic, broken Congress in history.
And pandering to their every whim. Is that something you actually are proud of him for? hahahaha.
Do I think Obama is perfect? No. But he has done well considering the obstacles he has had to face.
You obviously give him way more credit in the things he's done because if you look at the facts of it all he's turned this country into a worse shit hole than it was under any other president ever in the history of this country. You should be ashamed of yourself but I know you won't because you're too fucking stupid.
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The stimulus did nothing but kick the can down the road, it essentially just gave the banks what they wanted, more money. There's absolutely no evidence that it unemployment would have been higher or sustained at the levels it has been if there was no stimulus. In fact while it could have spiked into the 20% range it would have fell much quicker and we would have been on the way into recovery at this point. Instead now we are facing a much worse criss than we were facing in 2008 and a larger recession is coming. It's this complete misunderstanding of the markets that got us into this mess.
We have 44,000 troops as of July 2011 still in Iraq, I don't see how how that's "ended our invovlement".
The us was safe under Bush's watch for 7 years, so what?
Saved as in pumped money into insolvent companies that should have failed in a free market system? He didn't save it, the American people's bank accounts did.
Where's the body?
Woopty doo.
Went to war with a nation without a declration of war from congress. Good job at circumventing the constitution. He should be strung up for treason.
And yet government spending, growth and deficits are higher than they've ever been and the national debt is 15 trillion dollars, over 100% of GDP. Great job.
A health care so great over half the states are suing the federal government over it's non-constitutionality. A health care bill so awesome that it will cost small business millions of dollars in additional paperwork and regulations stifling growth and job creation. Good job once again.
And pandering to their every whim. Is that something you actually are proud of him for? hahahaha.
You obviously give him way more credit in the things he's done because if you look at the facts of it all he's turned this country into a worse shit hole than it was under any other president ever in the history of this country. You should be ashamed of yourself but I know you won't because you're too fucking stupid.
fucking owned
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The stimulus did nothing but kick the can down the road, it essentially just gave the banks what they wanted, more money. There's absolutely no evidence that it unemployment would have been higher or sustained at the levels it has been if there was no stimulus. In fact while it could have spiked into the 20% range it would have fell much quicker and we would have been on the way into recovery at this point. Instead now we are facing a much worse criss than we were facing in 2008 and a larger recession is coming. It's this complete misunderstanding of the markets that got us into this mess.
We have 44,000 troops as of July 2011 still in Iraq, I don't see how how that's "ended our invovlement".
The us was safe under Bush's watch for 7 years, so what?
Saved as in pumped money into insolvent companies that should have failed in a free market system? He didn't save it, the American people's bank accounts did.
Where's the body?
Woopty doo.
Went to war with a nation without a declration of war from congress. Good job at circumventing the constitution. He should be strung up for treason.
And yet government spending, growth and deficits are higher than they've ever been and the national debt is 15 trillion dollars, over 100% of GDP. Great job.
A health care so great over half the states are suing the federal government over it's non-constitutionality. A health care bill so awesome that it will cost small business millions of dollars in additional paperwork and regulations stifling growth and job creation. Good job once again.
And pandering to their every whim. Is that something you actually are proud of him for? hahahaha.
You obviously give him way more credit in the things he's done because if you look at the facts of it all he's turned this country into a worse shit hole than it was under any other president ever in the history of this country. You should be ashamed of yourself but I know you won't because you're too fucking stupid.
This may go down as one of the best posts and pwning's ever.
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..African Americans?
Keeping in mind that Barack Obama is truly as much white as he is black (due to his white mother and black father), what will this truly mean to the African American folks who saw Obama as their great "black" hope and his presidency as the true change of an era, if he were to go down as history's worst president?
What message would this send to white America regarding their ability to trust any person of color who is granted a position of such power?
What will it mean to other minority groups?
Will it possibly affect the ability for a Latino person to ever become president?
This question was heavily debated yesterday in a GAY bar by New York University where a bunch of poli-sci students got together to argue over this.
Your take?
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I had this same argument in class the other day and, Good luck you funny homo. ;) In all honesty, when you said Poli-Sci students.....i have seen them fight in class and shit. :-\ :-\ I cannot even express my own opinion with who i graduated with because they truly believe Obama is a god. ::) ::) I had buddies who did not even go to their graduation because Obama gave the commencement speech. :'( :'(
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Obama 2012 - at least you are still breathing right?
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Obama is around number 12-15 or so which is not bad whatsoever.
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Obama is ranked ahead of Ronald "Shit-brain" Reagan which is a good thing also.
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I had this same argument in class the other day and, Good luck you funny homo. ;) In all honesty, when you said Poli-Sci students.....i have seen them fight in class and shit. :-\ :-\ I cannot even express my own opinion with who i graduated with because they truly believe Obama is a god. ::) ::) I had buddies who did not even go to their graduation because Obama gave the commencement speech. :'( :'(
These students have much fervor for the ways of the world. I just like to listen in and see where their discussion takes them.
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Warren G. Harding was actually the first African American president. Its just rather convenient that its never taught correctly if at all.
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These students have much fervor for the ways of the world. I just like to listen in and see where their discussion takes them.
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Their discussion is about as meaningless as their scope of history if they think Obama is even close to being a bad President when presented in the backdrop of our nations history. Clearly they, like most who live in this country currently, have no conception or understanding of American History.
Most people`s knowldege History rarely reaches further back then 5-10 years before they were conceived and even then they poorly comprehend it.
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What in the HELL makes ANYONE think the president runs the country?
It's all about corporate money. Who is in bed with who? It's all about the Petroleum, Pharmaceutical and Grocery industry's big effing $$$$$$$$$$$$
The "President" is nothing more than a puppet, or better yet, a "Marionette"
The "President" is basically a *fall-guy* who has public speaking abilities. It's like being a Safety Manager for a company that purposely kills people.
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These students have much fervor for the ways of the world. I just like to listen in and see where their discussion takes them.
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I agree. "The Homo". ;D Just busting your balls, bro. All i could here was his approval rating, job campaign, pasts, thought, commy, big government,...etc.
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What in the HELL makes ANYONE think the president runs the country?
It's all about corporate money. Who is in bed with who? It's all about the Petroleum, Pharmaceutical and Grocery industry's big effing $$$$$$$$$$$$
The "President" is nothing more than a puppet, or better yet, a "Marionette"
The "President" is basically a *fall-guy* who has public speaking abilities. It's like being a Safety Manager for a company that purposely kills people.
You're not wrong, but most Americans don't know this..
America is a Fascist country that parades around with the guise of Capitalism being forced onto the middle class, while strongly pushing Socialist programs to the old, rich and poor.
America has an identity crisis, the President is just there to wear the many disguises needed to make people feel at ease.
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Their discussion is about as meaningless as their scope of history if they think Obama is even close to being a bad President when presented in the backdrop of our nations history. Clearly they, like most who live in this country currently, have no conception or understanding of American History.
Most people`s knowldege History rarely reaches further back then 5-10 years before they were conceived and even then they poorly comprehend it.
good post, same thing I have been trying to say time after time yet get's ignored.
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This may go down as one of the best posts and pwning's ever.
Coach, did you have an orgasm after reading that owning? :D
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So the most racially divisive president in our lifetime, now embarks on blatant class warfare, an anti-Zionist agenda, and will follow up with blaming Congress and saying none of it was his fault...and you wonder if he's set back any advances African Americans have made in the past few decades?
By the time obama gives 30 million illegal aliens citizenship he will have completely collapsed the black community.
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You're not wrong, but most Americans don't know this..
America is a Fascist country that parades around with the guise of Capitalism being forced onto the middle class, while strongly pushing Socialist programs to the old, rich and poor.
America has an identity crisis, the President is just there to wear the many disguises needed to make people feel at ease.
Most Americans can barely tie their own shoes. It's because of this that we are now where we are. More people are now dependent on government programs than ever before. Capitlism is being hedged as this evil entity that has brought the country to its knees when it's actually rife corprortism and fascism that has rotten us from the core. America hasn't had a truly capitlist economy in over 50 years and you can see exactly what's that done for the US. Americans have figured out that they can vote in whomever will give them the most out of the public coffers instead of doing what's best for the whole, it's do what's best for "me".
America won't recover.
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After 8 years of Clinton we had a budget surplus and virtually no foreign wars. After 8 years of Bush we had a rapidly dying economy and the Afghanistan and Iraq conflicts all under false pretenses. Obama steps in and kept the unemployment from hitting double digits (yes, the stimulus aided in keeping the unemployment from dying and yes, I believe it should have been much bigger) and gets filibustered on almost every piece of legislation his administration tries to pass. No president has had to walk through as much shit as Obama. 8 years of Republicans ass-fucking our economy into submission with insane tax cuts/across the board deregulation, war and Republicans are pissed the Black guy can't get it all cleaned up in under 3? ;D haha Don't worry, he'll get it done in his second term. I'll ask again, Who is going to beat Obama? Perry, Romney, Bachmann, Palin, Trump, Gingrich? Nobody! There is no Reagan-like candidate that everyone in the GOP will get behind. The Tea Party got you 2010 but they will drown you in 2012. Far right just like far left can never win an election. Both Bushes and Reagan were center-right compared to this field. Obama is finally getting behind the working people of America unlike the Republicans who wipe big business' ass hoping they'll sprinkle down jobs. They'd rather send every fucking job to China just to make extra profit (but corporations are people too, right Mitt Romney?). Fox has got a lot of misinforming to do to save this one! Obama 2012 muthafuckas!! ;D :o hahahaha
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After 8 years of Clinton we had a budget surplus and virtually no foreign wars. After 8 years of Bush we had a rapidly dying economy and the Afghanistan and Iraq conflicts all under false pretenses. Obama steps in and kept the unemployment from hitting double digits (yes, the stimulus aided in keeping the unemployment from dying and yes, I believe it should have been much bigger) and gets filibustered on almost every piece of legislation his administration tries to pass. No president has had to walk through as much shit as Obama. 8 years of Republicans ass-fucking our economy into submission with insane tax cuts/across the board deregulation, war and Republicans are pissed the Black guy can't get it all cleaned up in under 3? ;D haha Don't worry, he'll get it done in his second term. I'll ask again, Who is going to beat Obama? Perry, Romney, Bachmann, Palin, Trump, Gingrich? Nobody! There is no Reagan-like candidate that everyone in the GOP will get behind. The Tea Party got you 2010 but they will drown you in 2012. Far right just like far left can never win an election. Both Bushes and Reagan were center-right compared to this field. Obama is finally getting behind the working people of America unlike the Republicans who wipe big business' ass hoping they'll sprinkle down jobs. They'd rather send every fucking job to China just to make extra profit (but corporations are people too, right Mitt Romney?). Fox has got a lot of misinforming to do to save this one! Obama 2012 muthafuckas!! ;D :o hahahaha
You thinking Clinton had an actual budget surplus destroys all credibility in your first sentence.
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I'm gonna be honest didn't read a word any of yal said. But for the record Obama will be remember as a guy that failed to save a failing economy(fact bitches).
Bush will be remember as a guy that failed at high school geography(well at least highschools in those mystery countries), and ended up causing an illegal war and in the end a genocide.
P.S. before you start dropping the L word, I'm pretty conservative and very pro military(and the afghan war) so please blow me bitch.
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So the most racially divisive president in our lifetime, now embarks on blatant class warfare, an anti-Zionist agenda, and will follow up with blaming Congress and saying none of it was his fault...and you wonder if he's set back any advances African Americans have made in the past few decades?
By the time obama gives 30 million illegal aliens citizenship he will have completely collapsed the black community.
America owes nothing to the jews, it's the other way around bozo
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I'm gonna be honest didn't read a word any of yal said. But for the record Obama will be remember as a guy that failed to save a failing economy(fact bitches).
Bush will be remember as a guy that failed at high school geography(well at least highschools in those mystery countries), and ended up causing an illegal war and in the end a genocide.
P.S. before you start dropping the L word, I'm pretty conservative and very pro military(and the afghan war) so please blow me bitch.
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(http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/01c-bush-vs-obama-job-growth.jpg?w=1200&h=840)
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(http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/01c-bush-vs-obama-job-growth.jpg?w=1200&h=840)
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everyone said this in 2004... Bush had us in 2 quagmire wars, economy sucked, he let 911 happen and bin laden escape...
and he won re-election.
I'd like nothing more than to see obama lose and a solid Ron Paul, common sense admin take over. However, despite the mess he created and sustained, Obama is essentially TIED or LEADING in most polls. Sure, some polls come across a few times a month saying so-and-so leads by a point. But it's basiclaly tied... and the public KNOWS obama. Perry ain't gonna win any more votes, the more gaffes he makes, the more of his batshit crazy positions come to light. It's all dowhill from tied for him.
So repubs shouldn't celebrate too fast. Obama has sucked, and it's STILL tied. That's not good for repubs. Obama was creaming the GOP potentials in polls at this point in the 2008 race.
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(http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/01a-bush-vs-obama-deficit.jpg?w=1024)
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(http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/01b-bush-vs-obama-spending.jpg?w=1024)
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8 years vs two years. LMFAO!
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8 years vs two years. LMFAO!
Take Obama`s 4 years which the graph is showing and compare it to any 4 year period of Bush`s. You will see the major difference there.
333366, You shouldn`t let your hatred blind you of the facts.
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Take Obama`s 4 years which the graph is showing and compare it to any 4 year period of Bush`s. You will see the major difference there.
333366, You shouldn`t let your hatred blind you of the facts.
LMFAO - why not take their first three years?
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You thinking Clinton had an actual budget surplus destroys all credibility in your first sentence.
Yes he did. This is common knowledge buddy. ::)
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numbers boy getting owned by facts uh oh, good posts TA
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numbers boy getting owned by facts uh oh, good posts TA
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www.usdebtclock.org
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horrible president,, horrible,, but....now when you have rick perry coming and will probably be the nominee since americano are blind by texans for some stupid reason i cant figure ,, guess its powerful state in middle of country ,,maybe the cowboy feel ,, who knows,, in any case rick perry ,and obama ...both horrible ,, the all system is horrible
ron paul shoudl be president,, or put someone that has some damn experience that huckabee fella ,, someone that has some reagan like aura to them for god sake americanos are STTTTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOPID
gh15 approved
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Yes he did. This is common knowledge buddy. ::)
Fucking Liberal retards and their hero Blowjob Bill Clinton.
You are wrong, you have no fucking concept what you're talking about. This is a fact.
What Clinton did was trick the system using "public debt" versus "intragovernmental holdings". Public debt went down in each of the four years Clinton claimed he had a budget surplus, but the intragovernmental holdings went up each year by a far greater amount. In turn, the total national debt (which is public debt + intragovernmental holdings) went up. There is the discrepancy you can't seem to grasp.
When it is claimed that Clinton paid down the national debt, that is patently false. The national debt went up every single year. What Clinton did do was pay down the public debt, but he paid down the public debt by borrowing far more money in the form of intragovernmental holdings (mostly Social Security).
The only debt that matters is the total national debt. You can have a surplus and a debt at the same time, but you can't have a surplus if the amount of debt is going up each year. And the national debt went up every single year under Clinton. Had Clinton really had a surplus the national debt would have gone down. It didn't go down precisely because Clinton had a deficit every single year. The U.S. Treasury's historical record of the national debt verifies this.
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obama will go down in history as an intelligent, pragmatic, bi partisan, compromising fellow who put his ego on the side and made the best decisions he could make for country.
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obama will go down in history as an intelligent, pragmatic, bi partisan, compromising fellow who put his ego on the side and made the best decisions he could make for country.
Intelligent = no
Leadership Qualities = no
Bi-Partisan = no
Understanding Foreign Policy = no
Cooperative = no
Proud of American exceptionalism = no
Commander-In-Chief = no
Respected = no
BoBama is nothing more than a half-black Jimmy Carter.
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obama will go down in history as an intelligent, pragmatic, bi partisan, compromising fellow who put his ego on the side and made the best decisions he could make for country.
You're only saying that cos hes part black
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jimmy carter, another great president. sadly most americans have been brain washed with right wing propaganda that big business has been pushing for hundreds of years.
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jimmy carter, another great president. sadly most americans have been brain washed with right wing propaganda that big business has been pushing for hundreds of years.
Yawn.....
TROLL.....
Ignore.....
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