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every sitting president has been called for the most part the worst president ever, think bush w, clinton, etc etc, only after do they recognize what good they actually did.  Obama will be remembered for standing up for the working man, and doing the right thing for Palestine.  He is a hero.

A sweetheart deal for the UAW thru GM and passed on to the taxpayer isn't "standing up for the working man".

Now that he has taken sides against Israel, watch how his Jewish voting block and the mainstream/hollywood media turn on him. The New York 9 and Nevada election results are a precursor of things to come.


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Okay...

1.Inherited a dying economy with Unemployment not reaching the double digits as it was rapidly approaching before the stimulus slowed (not completely stopped) the bleeding. Yes, 9.1% unemployment, but you must admit it could have easily been much worse.

2. Basically ended our involvement in Iraq

3. USA safe under his watch

4. Saved Detroit car industry

5. Bin Laden dead.

6. DADT repealed

7. Aided in the liberation of Libya without one US casualty.

8. Taxes are lowest since the 50s, while re-passing passing Bush corporate tax cuts in bi-partisan work with Republicans (yet they still won't hire).

9. Passed healthcare reform that could have been much better with a public option provided by government to combat the ridiculous premiums of private insurance companies, but covers pre-existing conditions.

10. Governing in the most toxic, broken Congress in history.

Who can beat him? Succession/states-right Rick Perry (Bush + more Texas), flip-flopping Mormon (no good with Christian right) Romney, batshit-crazy Bachmann, far right will never vote for the black Pizza-man Cain, Ron Paul, Gingrich? The only reasonable candidate who believes in fundamental human rights ,science and has first hand experience (fluent in Mandarin and knows their political system) with our biggest rival China, Huntsman is dead last. The tea party will divide the Republican party and ultimately sink its chances of winning.

Do I think Obama is perfect? No. But he has done well considering the obstacles he has had to face.

Obama 2012

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every sitting president has been called for the most part the worst president ever, think bush w, clinton, etc etc, only after do they recognize what good they actually did.  Obama will be remembered for standing up for the working man, and doing the right thing for Palestine.  He is a hero.



This about sums it up.  Well put.

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Okay...

1.Inherited a dying economy with Unemployment not reaching the double digits as it was rapidly approaching before the stimulus slowed (not completely stopped) the bleeding. Yes, 9.1% unemployment, but you must admit it could have easily been much worse.

2. Basically ended our involvement in Iraq

3. USA safe under his watch

4. Saved Detroit car industry

5. Bin Laden dead.

6. DADT repealed

7. Aided in the liberation of Libya without one US casualty.

8. Taxes are lowest since the 50s, while re-passing passing Bush corporate tax cuts in bi-partisan work with Republicans (yet they still won't hire).

9. Passed healthcare reform that could have been much better with a public option provided by government to combat the ridiculous premiums of private insurance companies, but covers pre-existing conditions.

10. Governing in the most toxic, broken Congress in history.

Who can beat him? Succession/states-right Rick Perry (Bush + more Texas), flip-flopping Mormon (no good with Christian right) Romney, batshit-crazy Bachmann, far right will never vote for the black Pizza-man Cain, Ron Paul, Gingrich? The only reasonable candidate who believes in fundamental human rights ,science and has first hand experience (fluent in Mandarin and knows their political system) with our biggest rival China, Huntsman is dead last. The tea party will divide the Republican party and ultimately sink its chances of winning.

Do I think Obama is perfect? No. But he has done well considering the obstacles he has had to face.

Obama 2012

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every sitting president has been called for the most part the worst president ever, think bush w, Clinton, etc etc, only after do they recognize what good they actually did.  Obama will be remembered for standing up for the working man, and doing the right thing for Palestine.  He is a hero.

I don't know about you, but while Clinton was in office he was fantastic.  He was great during his first 4 years (Everyone loved him Democrats and Republicans) and he was awesome during his second term.

Aside from getting his dick sucked in the White House (I could have done a better job than Monica Lewinsky), he was America's golden boy.

White enough for Republicans and spicy enough for the democrats..
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Don't be fooled one bit. Obama's new Tax Increase Plan has nothing to do with stimulating the economy, Obama is implementing measures to flatten income inequality.

Even Democrats won't back that idea when push comes to shove. The rats will jump ship - my guess is Dick Durbin will lead the charge.


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Okay...

1.Inherited a dying economy with Unemployment not reaching the double digits as it was rapidly approaching before the stimulus slowed (not completely stopped) the bleeding. Yes, 9.1% unemployment, but you must admit it could have easily been much worse.

The stimulus did nothing but kick the can down the road, it essentially just gave the banks what they wanted, more money.  There's absolutely no evidence that it unemployment would have been higher or sustained at the levels it has been if there was no stimulus.  In fact while it could have spiked into the 20% range it would have fell much quicker and we would have been on the way into recovery at this point.  Instead now we are facing a much worse criss than we were facing in 2008 and a larger recession is coming.  It's this complete misunderstanding of the markets that got us into this mess.

2. Basically ended our involvement in Iraq

We have 44,000 troops as of July 2011 still in Iraq, I don't see how how that's "ended our invovlement".


3. USA safe under his watch

The us was safe under Bush's watch for 7 years, so what?


4. Saved Detroit car industry

Saved as in pumped money into insolvent companies that should have failed in a free market system?  He didn't save it, the American people's bank accounts did.

5. Bin Laden dead.

Where's the body?

6. DADT repealed

Woopty doo.

7. Aided in the liberation of Libya without one US casualty.

Went to war with a nation without a declration of war from congress.  Good job at circumventing the constitution.  He should be strung up for treason.

8. Taxes are lowest since the 50s, while re-passing passing Bush corporate tax cuts in bi-partisan work with Republicans (yet they still won't hire).

And yet government spending, growth and deficits are higher than they've ever been and the national debt is 15 trillion dollars, over 100% of GDP.  Great job.

9. Passed healthcare reform that could have been much better with a public option provided by government to combat the ridiculous premiums of private insurance companies, but covers pre-existing conditions.

A health care so great over half the states are suing the federal government over it's non-constitutionality.  A health care bill so awesome that it will cost small business millions of dollars in additional paperwork and regulations stifling growth and job creation.  Good job once again.


10. Governing in the most toxic, broken Congress in history.

And pandering to their every whim.  Is that something you actually are proud of him for?  hahahaha.


Do I think Obama is perfect? No. But he has done well considering the obstacles he has had to face.

You obviously give him way more credit in the things he's done because if you look at the facts of it all he's turned this country into a worse shit hole than it was under any other president ever in the history of this country.  You should be ashamed of yourself but I know you won't because you're too fucking stupid.

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The stimulus did nothing but kick the can down the road, it essentially just gave the banks what they wanted, more money.  There's absolutely no evidence that it unemployment would have been higher or sustained at the levels it has been if there was no stimulus.  In fact while it could have spiked into the 20% range it would have fell much quicker and we would have been on the way into recovery at this point.  Instead now we are facing a much worse criss than we were facing in 2008 and a larger recession is coming.  It's this complete misunderstanding of the markets that got us into this mess.

We have 44,000 troops as of July 2011 still in Iraq, I don't see how how that's "ended our invovlement".


The us was safe under Bush's watch for 7 years, so what?


Saved as in pumped money into insolvent companies that should have failed in a free market system?  He didn't save it, the American people's bank accounts did.

Where's the body?

Woopty doo.

Went to war with a nation without a declration of war from congress.  Good job at circumventing the constitution.  He should be strung up for treason.

And yet government spending, growth and deficits are higher than they've ever been and the national debt is 15 trillion dollars, over 100% of GDP.  Great job.

A health care so great over half the states are suing the federal government over it's non-constitutionality.  A health care bill so awesome that it will cost small business millions of dollars in additional paperwork and regulations stifling growth and job creation.  Good job once again.


And pandering to their every whim.  Is that something you actually are proud of him for?  hahahaha.


You obviously give him way more credit in the things he's done because if you look at the facts of it all he's turned this country into a worse shit hole than it was under any other president ever in the history of this country.  You should be ashamed of yourself but I know you won't because you're too fucking stupid.
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The stimulus did nothing but kick the can down the road, it essentially just gave the banks what they wanted, more money.  There's absolutely no evidence that it unemployment would have been higher or sustained at the levels it has been if there was no stimulus.  In fact while it could have spiked into the 20% range it would have fell much quicker and we would have been on the way into recovery at this point.  Instead now we are facing a much worse criss than we were facing in 2008 and a larger recession is coming.  It's this complete misunderstanding of the markets that got us into this mess.

We have 44,000 troops as of July 2011 still in Iraq, I don't see how how that's "ended our invovlement".


The us was safe under Bush's watch for 7 years, so what?


Saved as in pumped money into insolvent companies that should have failed in a free market system?  He didn't save it, the American people's bank accounts did.

Where's the body?

Woopty doo.

Went to war with a nation without a declration of war from congress.  Good job at circumventing the constitution.  He should be strung up for treason.

And yet government spending, growth and deficits are higher than they've ever been and the national debt is 15 trillion dollars, over 100% of GDP.  Great job.

A health care so great over half the states are suing the federal government over it's non-constitutionality.  A health care bill so awesome that it will cost small business millions of dollars in additional paperwork and regulations stifling growth and job creation.  Good job once again.


And pandering to their every whim.  Is that something you actually are proud of him for?  hahahaha.


You obviously give him way more credit in the things he's done because if you look at the facts of it all he's turned this country into a worse shit hole than it was under any other president ever in the history of this country.  You should be ashamed of yourself but I know you won't because you're too fucking stupid.

This may go down as one of the best posts and pwning's ever.

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..African Americans?

Keeping in mind that Barack Obama is truly as much white as he is black (due to his white mother and black father), what will this truly mean to the African American folks who saw Obama as their great "black" hope and his presidency as the true change of an era, if he were to go down as history's worst president?

What message would this send to white America regarding their ability to trust any person of color who is granted a position of such power?

What will it mean to other minority groups? 

Will it possibly affect the ability for a Latino person to ever become president?

This question was heavily debated yesterday in a GAY bar by New York University where a bunch of poli-sci students got together to argue over this.

Your take?
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I had this same argument in class the other day and, Good luck you funny homo.  ;) In all honesty, when you said Poli-Sci students.....i have seen them fight in class and shit.  :-\ :-\ I cannot even express my own opinion with who i graduated with because they truly believe Obama is a god.  ::) ::) I had buddies who did not even go to their graduation because Obama gave the commencement speech.  :'( :'( 
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Obama 2012 - at least you are still breathing right? 

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Obama is around number 12-15 or so which is not bad whatsoever.


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Obama is ranked ahead of Ronald "Shit-brain" Reagan which is a good thing also.

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I had this same argument in class the other day and, Good luck you funny homo.  ;) In all honesty, when you said Poli-Sci students.....i have seen them fight in class and shit.  :-\ :-\ I cannot even express my own opinion with who i graduated with because they truly believe Obama is a god.  ::) ::) I had buddies who did not even go to their graduation because Obama gave the commencement speech.  :'( :'( 

These students have much fervor for the ways of the world.  I just like to listen in and see where their discussion takes them.

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Warren G. Harding was actually the first African American president.  Its just rather convenient that its never taught correctly if at all.

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These students have much fervor for the ways of the world.  I just like to listen in and see where their discussion takes them.

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Their discussion is about as meaningless as their scope of history if they think Obama is even close to being a bad President when presented in the backdrop of our nations history.  Clearly they, like most who live in this country currently, have no conception or understanding of American History.

Most people`s knowldege History rarely reaches further back then 5-10 years before they were conceived and even then they poorly comprehend it.

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What in the HELL makes ANYONE think the president runs the country?


It's all about corporate money. Who is in bed with who? It's all about the Petroleum, Pharmaceutical and Grocery industry's big effing $$$$$$$$$$$$


The "President" is nothing more than a puppet, or better yet, a "Marionette"


The "President" is basically a *fall-guy* who has public speaking abilities. It's like being a Safety Manager for a company that purposely kills people.

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These students have much fervor for the ways of the world.  I just like to listen in and see where their discussion takes them.

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I agree. "The Homo".  ;D Just busting your balls, bro. All i could here was his approval rating, job campaign, pasts, thought, commy, big government,...etc.
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What in the HELL makes ANYONE think the president runs the country?


It's all about corporate money. Who is in bed with who? It's all about the Petroleum, Pharmaceutical and Grocery industry's big effing $$$$$$$$$$$$


The "President" is nothing more than a puppet, or better yet, a "Marionette"


The "President" is basically a *fall-guy* who has public speaking abilities. It's like being a Safety Manager for a company that purposely kills people.

You're not wrong, but most Americans don't know this..

America is a Fascist country that parades around with the guise of Capitalism being forced onto the middle class, while strongly pushing Socialist programs to the old, rich and poor.

America has an identity crisis, the President is just there to wear the many disguises needed to make people feel at ease.

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Their discussion is about as meaningless as their scope of history if they think Obama is even close to being a bad President when presented in the backdrop of our nations history.  Clearly they, like most who live in this country currently, have no conception or understanding of American History.

Most people`s knowldege History rarely reaches further back then 5-10 years before they were conceived and even then they poorly comprehend it.

good post, same thing I have been trying to say time after time yet get's ignored.

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This may go down as one of the best posts and pwning's ever.

Coach, did you have an orgasm after reading that owning?  :D
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So the most racially divisive president in our lifetime, now embarks on blatant class warfare, an anti-Zionist agenda, and will follow up with blaming Congress and saying none of it was his fault...and you wonder if he's set     back any advances African Americans have made in the past few decades?

By the time obama gives 30 million illegal aliens citizenship he will have completely collapsed the black community.

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You're not wrong, but most Americans don't know this..

America is a Fascist country that parades around with the guise of Capitalism being forced onto the middle class, while strongly pushing Socialist programs to the old, rich and poor.

America has an identity crisis, the President is just there to wear the many disguises needed to make people feel at ease.

Most Americans can barely tie their own shoes.  It's because of this that we are now where we are.  More people are now dependent on government programs than ever before.  Capitlism is being hedged as this evil entity that has brought the country to its knees when it's actually rife corprortism and fascism that has rotten us from the core.  America hasn't had a truly capitlist economy in over 50 years and you can see exactly what's that done for the US.  Americans have figured out that they can vote in whomever will give them the most out of the public coffers instead of doing what's best for the whole, it's do what's best for "me".

America won't recover.

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After 8 years of Clinton we had a budget surplus and virtually no foreign wars. After 8 years of Bush we had a rapidly dying economy and the Afghanistan and Iraq conflicts all under false pretenses. Obama steps in and kept the unemployment from hitting double digits (yes, the stimulus aided in keeping the unemployment from dying and yes, I believe it should have been much bigger) and gets filibustered on almost every piece of legislation his administration tries to pass. No president has had to walk through as much shit as Obama. 8 years of Republicans ass-fucking our economy into submission with insane tax cuts/across the board deregulation, war and Republicans are pissed the Black guy can't get it all cleaned up in under 3? ;D haha Don't worry, he'll get it done in his second term. I'll ask again, Who is going to beat Obama? Perry, Romney, Bachmann, Palin, Trump, Gingrich? Nobody! There is no Reagan-like candidate that everyone in the GOP will get behind. The Tea Party got you 2010 but they will drown you in 2012. Far right just like far left can never win an election. Both Bushes and Reagan were center-right compared to this field. Obama is finally getting behind the working people of America unlike the Republicans who wipe big business' ass hoping they'll sprinkle down jobs. They'd rather send every fucking job to China just to make extra profit (but corporations are people too, right Mitt Romney?). Fox has got a lot of misinforming to do to save this one! Obama 2012 muthafuckas!! ;D  :o  hahahaha

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After 8 years of Clinton we had a budget surplus and virtually no foreign wars. After 8 years of Bush we had a rapidly dying economy and the Afghanistan and Iraq conflicts all under false pretenses. Obama steps in and kept the unemployment from hitting double digits (yes, the stimulus aided in keeping the unemployment from dying and yes, I believe it should have been much bigger) and gets filibustered on almost every piece of legislation his administration tries to pass. No president has had to walk through as much shit as Obama. 8 years of Republicans ass-fucking our economy into submission with insane tax cuts/across the board deregulation, war and Republicans are pissed the Black guy can't get it all cleaned up in under 3? ;D haha Don't worry, he'll get it done in his second term. I'll ask again, Who is going to beat Obama? Perry, Romney, Bachmann, Palin, Trump, Gingrich? Nobody! There is no Reagan-like candidate that everyone in the GOP will get behind. The Tea Party got you 2010 but they will drown you in 2012. Far right just like far left can never win an election. Both Bushes and Reagan were center-right compared to this field. Obama is finally getting behind the working people of America unlike the Republicans who wipe big business' ass hoping they'll sprinkle down jobs. They'd rather send every fucking job to China just to make extra profit (but corporations are people too, right Mitt Romney?). Fox has got a lot of misinforming to do to save this one! Obama 2012 muthafuckas!! ;D  :o  hahahaha

You thinking Clinton had an actual budget surplus destroys all credibility in your first sentence.