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The Bible Dedicated To the Teachings of the God of Hormones - my opinions
i was ask many time what is most importnt posting in history of bodybuild boardings on the internet era,, i was asked to quote bible most important quote etc,, but! the most important posting in history of bodybuild is the one yuo are about to read here,,
this is by FAR the most important posting in history of bodybuild,, it COMES from a profesional that take HUGE risk for doing so for he did it on hsi name,,
the fella who wrote the following post need to be remembered as ONE OF THE MOST truth saying profesional that came under his name... in the cult and! he is alive,, he is not passed on or dead or talking from grave dueto sickness,, this is the closet thign you will hear to the truth ,, it is EXACTLY the truth and he shoudl be comended for this!
always remember the ones who seeked and shared the truth! this fella is one of them
this is brought to me by elf frmo profesional muscle forum,, thisis quote of the posting,,
So sick of this - HERE'S THE TRUTH!
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This site was always set up as an advanced site, where you can find TRUTHFUL information about bodybuilding, not bulshit and ideology promoted by people who generally have agendas.
This is the truth:
If your diet, training, health and rest are completely up to scratch, the more steroids you take, the bigger you will get. It's as simple as that.
Pros have got their diet, training (health for the most part) and rest up to a standard that works for them perfectly, but they are only the size they are due to the drugs they take. Don't beleive the crap from anyone, that they are not, even from the 'in the know' people that are on this board. Those very same people for the most part have used/use extremely higher dosages than what they preach. Why do they preach the low dosages? - various personal agendas.
Reality is that as a rule, 1g per week of test non stop year round is the 'off' time for the pros. Gear is added as it's obtained - no real detailed cycles as such. As long as they take the high dosages of gear, they'll grow (as long as the diet, training, health and sleep is up to scratch as mentioned previously).
Several grams of test per week, several grams of anabolics per week, up to 2g/week of tren, a shit load of orals, insulin several times a day year round, GH as much as can be afforded - 15 to 30IU/day, etc.
BUT, pros have the genetics to have their bodies accept the gear, and generally not get sick on it.
And ancilliary use is huge - liver aids to the max, anti-e's, dht blockers, cardio supps, cholesterol supps, etc.
Still, most of them are complete wrecks. They can't control bodily functions,
they pass out from walking a flight of stairs, they get drenched in sweat from tying their shoelaces. Gyno, baldness, dry skin, gout, excess bodily hair, acne, etc are ALL existant in virtually all of them.
It is not a healthy sport, drug use is ENORMOUS, but to ignore it and to preach otherwise is pathetic and not what this site is about.
BTW, Synthetek's books have on them who's who of current pros ordering Syntherol constantly. They ALL use it extensively. It is pathetic though, when one orders a bottle and their credit card gets declined due to not enough funds. You think a 30+ yo would have his life in order more than that.
Anyway, I'm sick of seeing the bullshit that has been promoted on this site the last few years. This site was originally set up as an uncensored place where you can find the truth about advanced performance enhancing, regardless of consequences. It's getting back to that.
bible index!
gh15 approved
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great post as always.
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OK.
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if my stomach was brand new i will take 4 anadrol a day for a year
plz kids dont party it' will weaken your stomach for future abuse
fuck party on rec drugs it will weaken your stomach n cns will not endure tren
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fine we get it. But something needs to be said about hard work. if A bber takes 2 g of test a week trains like an animal and his nutrition, rest ect. is on point and B takes 3 grams but is lazy then A will be bigger, better (IF BOTH HAVE GOOD GENETICS FOR BBING)
of course drugs play a huge role. the higher up you go the more drugs..we get it! but hard work makes a huge difference
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can you confirm if they really use these gh15
"And ancilliary use is huge - liver aids to the max, anti-e's, dht blockers, cardio supps, cholesterol supps, etc."
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Did that say 2g of tren a week?! HOly shit!!!
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Phil Hernon.
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did LEE post the above?
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Gh 15. How about the t3 n t4 n clen. How do u reccomend cycling them. How much t3 is to much?
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fine we get it. But something needs to be said about hard work. if A bber takes 2 g of test a week trains like an animal and his nutrition, rest ect. is on point and B takes 3 grams but is lazy then A will be bigger, better (IF BOTH HAVE GOOD GENETICS FOR BBING)
of course drugs play a huge role. the higher up you go the more drugs..we get it! but hard work makes a huge difference
You do it when you are pro and get paid and even then it's not must for some
rest ? lol look at Cedric Mcmillan
training? compare Branch the 'animal' to Heath
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where the motherFUCK is stage four
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Gh 15. How about the t3 n t4 n clen. How do u reccomend cycling them. How much t3 is to much?
PMs people, PMs! So sick of everyone asking "GH15 this, GH15 that?" Whats clen cycling have to do with the thread newn?
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PMs people, PMs! So sick of everyone asking "GH15 this, GH15 that?" Whats clen cycling have to do with the thread newn?
he's just impatient about phase 4
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he's just impatient about phase 4
Arent we all? Lol
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if my stomach was brand new i will take 4 anadrol a day for a year
plz kids dont party it' will weaken your stomach for future abuse
fuck party on rec drugs it will weaken your stomach n cns will not endure tren
I hear you, man. Every time I use any orals I get brutal acid reflux. Have to use nexium. Alll because of my early twenties being an idiot. I can handle tren, though....it's only the orals that give me issues.
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great post as always.
Having a "good English" day too! Does make me laugh that one day he writes in shitty European broken English then the next day it will be almost perfect.
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Having a "good English" day too! Does make me laugh that one day he writes in shitty European broken English then the next day it will be almost perfect.
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It was copy/paste from another site, retard.
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It was copy/paste from another site, retard.
X2, the wizard of stupidity clearly cannot read ::)
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fuck thats like 6 grams of gear a week. I really wish someone would go more into detail about how much insulin these guys are really using though. Old post I found from gh15 (2007) maybe this will stimulate him to start talking about insulin again more often, and less about trenbolona ;D
"veryone respond well to insulin,,its a matter of good diet habits and knowing what you put into your body in the window of time the insulin work,,insulin is the reason for 5'10 guy being able to carry ripped 250lb of muscle on his frame,,insulin is the most anabolic agent out there by far and its been used for years and will be used for years,,the distended stomack comes from very high doses for very prolonged time with the addition of gh and igf,,with out gh and igf you at moderate doses of insulin you will become a very thick beast and if your diet and genetic is intact you will also maintain small waist,,
insulin is a lot better than aas for bodybuilding purposes,,insulin is used to a degree you cant imagine by us pros,,and the ones who get the big big guts are also the ones who dont live the bodybuilding life style and dont pay attention to diet when it counts and training when it counts,,you got to know the produ\cts that you have to use with insulin intake because there are products you HAVE to use with slin such as ephedrine clen albuterol t3 and the such to maintain the fat at none existant levels in addition to diet rich in calories and good ones,,any serious bodybuilder as of these days and in past days use insulin inorder to bring up thickness of the muscle,,it is something that if done right bring up the thickness of already good physiqe to new levels of development,,it simply takes you within months couple of notches up into the big boys group,,do it right and you will keep your symetry
example: a guy like hutch from this board i think this is his name will look 10 times better than many pros if take insulin the right way with the right products,,a guy like that will become a pro within a year or 2 of taking insulin,,the insulin is what makes the pro bodybuilder diff than the every day good genetic reponse to hormone gym rat,,insulin and muscle shape although i have seen some pro fellas with muscle shape that resemble a frog "
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Phil Hernon.
No, it was Big A. Hernon backed a lot of it up tho'. Great thread on there actually.......
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No, it was Big A. Hernon backed a lot of it up tho'. Great thread on there actually.......
THIS. SO HAS MAGNUM/DISGUSTED(ON HERE) AND BBOY.
PRO'S AGREE WITH PROS. THE DANTAS TELL U OTHERWISE.
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No, it was Big A. Hernon backed a lot of it up tho'. Great thread on there actually.......
Who is Big A, any pics? is he a pro?
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so...
what gh15 is trying to tell us in just some of his posts... is... that steroids make your muscles grow... sushi is the best food... and LEE is a liar......
but... just wondering....
where the hell did MJ15 go?
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Who is Big A, any pics? is he a pro?
I believe he's a pro from Australia or New Zealand, can't remember his name. He has a lot of good posts over on PM though. Detailed synthol protocols and stuff..
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yeah, Australia I think. Here's the full thread, quite the epic. :D
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/53353-so-sick-heres-truth.html
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PMs people, PMs! So sick of everyone asking "GH15 this, GH15 that?" Whats clen cycling have to do with the thread newn?
fuck that. why make questions private when everyone is interested in the answers?
people should be banned from PMing gh15. All questions should be out in the open so we all benefit
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fuck that. why make questions private when everyone is interested in the answers?
people should be banned from PMing gh15. All questions should be out in the open so we all benefit
I'm not interested. So PM him and shut the fuck up. Random questions to GH15 derail / interupt the thread anyways.
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Good stuff.
I personally know guys who use 5-6g's of combined AAS 9 months out of the year and that isn't considered a big deal to them.
Like the post said, most of the guys who downplay the size of cycles usually have an agenda. Like some of these jackoffs claiming they use 750mg of test and whatnot.
It's all drugs and anyone with any experience around real top level bodybuilders knows this. Why do you think so many of them are always broke doing G4P and driving shitty cars? Just use some simple logic and you can see the truth.
Pro BBing = all drugs.
A person using 1g of test will gain more muscle WITHOUT lifting weights than a natural who trains his ass off with a perfect diet.
Get with the fucking program.
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GH15, why continue contradicting yourself? In your bible you say NO ANTI-E, yet you post this where the guy states you need anti-e to stay on year around.
Explain the role of anti-e and when you need them and don't.
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BigA wrote that. He owns Synthetek and thats how he knows ho may pros use the syntherol!
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When people exclaim at how beautiful a woman is, she doesn't pull out her laundry list of fake eyelashes, and long nails, and rhinoplasty, and fake tits, and tons of makeup, and botox injections, and whatnot. She just smiles and loves the attention.
Bodybuilders are the same. Admitting you take grams and grams of anabolics takes the fun out of it. There is no agenda.
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When people exclaim at how beautiful a woman is, she doesn't pull out her laundry list of fake eyelashes, and long nails, and rhinoplasty, and fake tits, and tons of makeup, and botox injections, and whatnot. She just smiles and loves the attention.
Bodybuilders are the same. Admitting you take grams and grams of anabolics takes the fun out of it. There is no agenda.
I don't think you realize who some of the people are or how many people aim to make money through what goes on on internet forums
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Good stuff.
I personally know guys who use 5-6g's of combined AAS 9 months out of the year and that isn't considered a big deal to them.
Like the post said, most of the guys who downplay the size of cycles usually have an agenda. Like some of these jackoffs claiming they use 750mg of test and whatnot.
It's all drugs and anyone with any experience around real top level bodybuilders knows this. Why do you think so many of them are always broke doing G4P and driving shitty cars? Just use some simple logic and you can see the truth.
Pro BBing = all drugs.
A person using 1g of test will gain more muscle WITHOUT lifting weights than a natural who trains his ass off with a perfect diet.
Get with the fucking program.
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QFT
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yeh i read that a while ago, most of what big A says is more or less word for word for the bible index
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yeh i read that a while ago, most of what big A says is more or less word for word for the bible index
Don't believe everything he writes, he is in bed with hernon. http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/peptides-growth-factors/77163-why-real-follistatin-costs-4680k-look-inside-civil-debate-only-per-big.html
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fine we get it. But something needs to be said about hard work. if A bber takes 2 g of test a week trains like an animal and his nutrition, rest ect. is on point and B takes 3 grams but is lazy then A will be bigger, better (IF BOTH HAVE GOOD GENETICS FOR BBING)
of course drugs play a huge role. the higher up you go the more drugs..we get it! but hard work makes a huge difference
nah
sure you cant be a little bitch in the gym fucking around with 15lb dumbells.
but theres no need to "train like an animal". in fact it can even be counter productive to do so.
look at the best bodybuilders. flex wheeler. chris cormier. paul dillet. phil heath. victor martinez. dexter jackson. etc etc etc. all these guys train like lazy asses. never to failure. just enough weight to stress the muscle. mostly squeezing and flexing the muscle.
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that was BIG A from ProfessionalMuscle.com.. another straight up shooter - no bullshit kinda guy.
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he is a straight shooter when there is no $$$ to be made
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GH15, why continue contradicting yourself? In your bible you say NO ANTI-E, yet you post this where the guy states you need anti-e to stay on year around.
Explain the role of anti-e and when you need them and don't.
Remind me what is Masteron exactly?
and he wrote that it needed in some cases, but rather not to mess with that if not needed.
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Remind me what is Masteron exactly?
and he wrote that it needed in some cases, but rather not to mess with that if not needed.
This article is not talking about Masteron. It is refering to Nolva, Clomid, Arim etc...
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Don't believe everything he writes, he is in bed with hernon. http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/peptides-growth-factors/77163-why-real-follistatin-costs-4680k-look-inside-civil-debate-only-per-big.html
Big A allowed that Phil Hernon bashing thread, so you just proved the opposite. That just says Big A is even more honest after reading that
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GH15, why continue contradicting yourself? In your bible you say NO ANTI-E, yet you post this where the guy states you need anti-e to stay on year around.
Explain the role of anti-e and when you need them and don't.
I think he said at gym-rat dosages anti-e's aren't really needed. It's probably different for the pro on several grams of test per week.
BTW are your coworkers still frightened of you and move away from the micro-wave line when they see you in the lunch room out of fear? :D Jokes aside the only difference I get in the lunch-room (still kinda annoying) is them looking over at what I'm warming up, making comments like, "does that fit with your diet?" "wow you eat lots of protein hey?" etc. lol
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I think he said at gym-rat dosages anti-e's aren't really needed. It's probably different for the pro on several grams of test per week.
BTW are your coworkers still frightened of you and move away from the micro-wave line when they see you in the lunch room out of fear? :D Jokes aside the only difference I get in the lunch-room (still kinda annoying) is them looking over at what I'm warming up, making comments like, "does that fit with your diet?" "wow you eat lots of protein hey?" etc. lol
Most people comment on why I'm warming up some food at 10 am or 2 pm because it's not lunch yet or lunch was just two hours ago. Never mind that I don't eat "lunch" when people eat their lunches.
One bitch can't seem to mind her business and I'll catch her bending over and looking into the microwave to see what I'm heating up. The temptation to slap her ass is there but not worth getting fired over.
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I think he said at gym-rat dosages anti-e's aren't really needed. It's probably different for the pro on several grams of test per week.
BTW are your coworkers still frightened of you and move away from the micro-wave line when they see you in the lunch room out of fear? :D Jokes aside the only difference I get in the lunch-room (still kinda annoying) is them looking over at what I'm warming up, making comments like, "does that fit with your diet?" "wow you eat lots of protein hey?" etc. lol
By the way. Excellent point about the anit-e and the gymrat thing. I've never thought of it, but every steroid user that swears by these are also the guys that are taking in grams and grams of shit a week. But a dude taking 500-750 mg a week of test and maybe 100 g tren eod won't need it as much.
All of these anecdotal stories come from the heaviest of user.
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Big A allowed that Phil Hernon bashing thread, so you just proved the opposite. That just says Big A is even more honest after reading that
I didn't even need to link any fucking thread, he is a mod on pm, what else you need
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i was ask many time what is most importnt posting in history of bodybuild boardings on the internet era,, i was asked to quote bible most important quote etc,, but! the most important posting in history of bodybuild is the one yuo are about to read here,,
this is by FAR the most important posting in history of bodybuild,, it COMES from a profesional that take HUGE risk for doing so for he did it on hsi name,,
the fella who wrote the following post need to be remembered as ONE OF THE MOST truth saying profesional that came under his name... in the cult and! he is alive,, he is not passed on or dead or talking from grave dueto sickness,, this is the closet thign you will hear to the truth ,, it is EXACTLY the truth and he shoudl be comended for this!
always remember the ones who seeked and shared the truth! this fella is one of them
this is brought to me by elf frmo profesional muscle forum,, thisis quote of the posting,,
So sick of this - HERE'S THE TRUTH!
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This site was always set up as an advanced site, where you can find TRUTHFUL information about bodybuilding, not bulshit and ideology promoted by people who generally have agendas.
This is the truth:
If your diet, training, health and rest are completely up to scratch, the more steroids you take, the bigger you will get. It's as simple as that.
Pros have got their diet, training (health for the most part) and rest up to a standard that works for them perfectly, but they are only the size they are due to the drugs they take. Don't beleive the crap from anyone, that they are not, even from the 'in the know' people that are on this board. Those very same people for the most part have used/use extremely higher dosages than what they preach. Why do they preach the low dosages? - various personal agendas.
Reality is that as a rule, 1g per week of test non stop year round is the 'off' time for the pros. Gear is added as it's obtained - no real detailed cycles as such. As long as they take the high dosages of gear, they'll grow (as long as the diet, training, health and sleep is up to scratch as mentioned previously).
Several grams of test per week, several grams of anabolics per week, up to 2g/week of tren, a shit load of orals, insulin several times a day year round, GH as much as can be afforded - 15 to 30IU/day, etc.
BUT, pros have the genetics to have their bodies accept the gear, and generally not get sick on it.
And ancilliary use is huge - liver aids to the max, anti-e's, dht blockers, cardio supps, cholesterol supps, etc.
Still, most of them are complete wrecks. They can't control bodily functions,
they pass out from walking a flight of stairs, they get drenched in sweat from tying their shoelaces. Gyno, baldness, dry skin, gout, excess bodily hair, acne, etc are ALL existant in virtually all of them.
It is not a healthy sport, drug use is ENORMOUS, but to ignore it and to preach otherwise is pathetic and not what this site is about.
BTW, Synthetek's books have on them who's who of current pros ordering Syntherol constantly. They ALL use it extensively. It is pathetic though, when one orders a bottle and their credit card gets declined due to not enough funds. You think a 30+ yo would have his life in order more than that.
Anyway, I'm sick of seeing the bullshit that has been promoted on this site the last few years. This site was originally set up as an uncensored place where you can find the truth about advanced performance enhancing, regardless of consequences. It's getting back to that.
bible index!
gh15 approved
screw you you wash up bodybuilder, your only joy in life is to talk shit about pros, you remind me of a dog who saw another dog and said hey you are a dog, and the dog replied yea i know but so are you.
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This article is not talking about Masteron. It is refering to Nolva, Clomid, Arim etc...
I think he meant that masteron is all the enti-e a mere mortal is ever likely to need, according to gh15. Things may be different on 5g+ a week...
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screw you you wash up bodybuilder, your only joy in life is to talk shit about pros, you remind me of a dog who saw another dog and said hey you are a dog, and the dog replied yea i know but so are you.
What fucking gibberish is this?
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What fucking gibberish is this?
if you do not have the basic common sense to understand the meaning behind the dog statement then you are beyond help.
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if you do not have the basic common sense to understand the meaning behind the dog statement then you are beyond help.
easy big guy
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I don't think you realize who some of the people are or how many people aim to make money through what goes on on internet forums
No, I get that part, it's very obvious what they have to gain by lying. I'm talking about "naturals" and just regular bodybuilders who always play it down, money is not the motivating factor, it's fragile egos. Just think of some of the people on this board who post their pictures and say "I'm natural!" or "I took some pro-hormones 8 years ago"
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I see your point, but I would say money is a part of it. They are trying to imitate people who are on top of the heirarchy of lying bodybuilers, and those guys do make money because they are on top, and the wannabes who post pics here want to be those guys... they aspire to make money in the con game one day, they might deny their ambitions, but they would take that opportunity
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I see your point, but I would say money is a part of it. They are trying to imitate people who are on top of the heirarchy of lying bodybuilers, and those guys do make money because they are on top, and the wannabes who post pics here want to be those guys... they aspire to make money in the con game one day, they might deny their ambitions, but they would take that opportunity
I wholeheartedly disagree with you. There is a need and desire much stronger than money, that is the desire to feel respected and loved. As corny as it sounds, that is what motivates these lying twinks.
Maybe you're too much of a man and can only think of money, but I assure you, half the time, these children are not even aware of the reason why they lie, they are very close to women in terms of thinking. That is the paradox of the bodybuilder, as strong and manly they look on the outside, they are little bitches on the inside.
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I wholeheartedly disagree with you. There is a need and desire much stronger than money, that is the desire to feel respected and loved. As corny as it sounds, that is what motivates these lying twinks.
Maybe you're too much of a man and can only think of money, but I assure you, half the time, these children are not even aware of the reason why they lie, they are very close to women in terms of thinking. That is the paradox of the bodybuilder, as strong and manly they look on the outside, they are little bitches on the inside.
I see.. what I'm saying is that enough love and respect leads to money eventually, because reputation = money on here, look at the offers gh15 claims to get, but I agree with you on how they don't know why they lie, they just do, the organism does what it can to get affection from others often without knowing it's actions corrupt its integrity
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Money is not a motivating factor for bodybuilding. Getting bigger is the only motivation.
Why else do they own no property, are buried in CC debt, think of monetary value in terms of how many GH kits and vials of test they can buy with it, and have no jobs?
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I see.. what I'm saying is that enough love and respect leads to money eventually, because reputation = money on here, look at the offers gh15 claims to get, but I agree with you on how they don't know why they lie, they just do, the organism does what it can to get affection from others often without knowing it's actions corrupt its integrity
I'm also talking about the average gym rat/bodybuilder/poster on get big. Not about supplement company owners, magazine publishers, organization heads, contest prep gurus, etc. It is rather obvious what they have to gain by perpetuating the natural/supplement route to building muscle.
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money comes with success, with status, I'm saying status is the goal and money is involved because the guys whos actions they are imitating in working out and taking steroids at all are famous and have made money from it. Arnold, or whoever, is the identity that their DNA is trying to copy in order to have what arnold or whoever had. The reason a lot of these kids are in debt is the same reason a lot of kids are in debt period, only a few people can be actually successful because resources aren't so plentiful that everyone drives around on a rolls royce
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The Bible Dedicated To the Teachings of the God of Hormones, in my opinion.
only when you read postings like this in this tread you actualy start to understand how sick the cult of bodybuild is truly is ,, 200lb 5'9 lol seeing all abs lol you have here fellas go 20 years so call natural ,, yet on hormone boardings and serious talk bodybuilding,, say they scared to shrink and lose strength lol
i sometime think bodybuild is truly a mental deasease,,
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE FELLAS WHO WRITE IN TREADINGS LIKE THESE HAS BEEN TO HORMONES IS NOT NATURAL AND NEVER WILL BE NATURAL ,, SOMETIME WHEN IM LOOKING IN OTHER PLACES ON THE THUNDERDOME ASIDE FROM GOSSIP AND I SOMETIME DO BECUASE I LIKE LOOKING INTO FELLAS BRAINS AND HOW THEY THINK..SOMETIMES WHEN I DO IT I CAN NOT BELIEVE THE LIES FELLAS LIVE,,
yes this posting will be erase,, and yes you will continue claimingni natural and all this balonie ,, but reality of the matter is lik esomeone else say here....none of you would surpass age 28-30 with out hormone into his blood ,, you woudnt even do bodybuild,, rememeber you dont go to gym 2-3 times a week as a recreational activity done next to your bowling actvitiy ,, most of you are americanos that live a very very sad lie,, you really need to wake up in the morning...look into the mirror and spit at yoru image FOR! what you write here ,, what i actualy read here ....doesnt go along with 4000 postings on bodybuild boarding ,, doesnt go with sitting and being on bodybuild baording all day long,, i could pull lists from steroids boarding and put it here to embaress all of you but why do it? you live the worst life possible and that life is called
LIFE OF A LIAR AND TWISTER OF THE TRUTH!
wize up ,, it doesnt have to be through finding jesus ,,that lead no where,, wize up and be honest with yourself ,, dont pretend ,, dont pretend to just go on hrt to not lose strength ,, you never see the numbers 200lb 5'9 anything! with single digit and you wont see no abdominals at this weight not even few...you will see semi hardness in delts and pecs,, and no! no! you will not just lose the ability to get shreded ,,,getting shreded as treue natural at 5'9 will put you down to the 165lb IF YOU ARE SUPER SUPER LUCKY AND VERY VERY GOOD GENETIC STRUCTURE! ,, you dont just get shreded from 200lb to 190lb natural ,, it doesnt work this way friends,, not 190 not 180 and sadly with many not even 170,,
why the lies? i think the reason behind it is mental sickness and the inability to tell yourself ,, IM AN AVERAGE RESPONDER TO HORMONES AND I JUST DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT CONNECTIONS FOR THE CONTACTS NEEDED FOR LEGIT HORMONES AND CONSISTANCY IN THOSE LEGIT HORMONES!
yes this posting will be erased and i have no problem with it ! but the ones who read it knows gh15 is right to the t not 90% right but right 100% ,,
there is no natural bodybuild,,
the natural liar ...usualy log into a bodybuild steroid boarding....about 2.5 to 3 months out of a compeittion seeking products,, IT IS ALWAYS THE SAME,,
the following happen ,, they will send a text to a friend ...most likly my pupils saying ,, you are right bodybuild is all drugs,, then within days log into steroid boarding and ordoer what needed,, AND THEN lie LIE LIE LIE and say they done it natural ,, why? BECAUSE THEY GREW INTO A SHOW using a product that put them at 169lb 5'10 6% .....that is not a hormonized number in the mental state of those fellas and thus the lie
i really really came to despize bodybuild for this ,, and i blame many of you the so call naturals for this,, this is mental sickness,,
gh15 approved
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Bad weekend mate?
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not at all,, i just do not like misleaders an liars ,, you know exactly who they are in this filt cult,, they all go 3 months in prep claiming natural ,, while they use anythign they can to get low in bodyfat,,they say its diet ,, in reality they look lik fragile poop until they go on fat burners and before then halodrol and all that balonie ,, theyw also go on oral of choice that has no water retention and estrogenic problems at time they will go on anti aromazate to dry well,,they will havbe potasium tablets,, they will have somewhere aroudn them lasix that belong to some old sister that have problem with blood pressure ,, they will use it too! some of them will some wont when it come to diuretic but the other things they will use,, then clain natural lol i just do not like liars!
then after competition they take....3 weeks off sometime more,, they dont touch weight like they are some veterns of bodybuild and achieved something great lol they achievd LIES,, what they did is coming 4 in some local no where to be found comeptition and then take off time!! for body to recover....i tell you why they take off time....it is because their sorry ass need to find a way to get off th eoral and other balonie and they are going crazy how they can pull the natural illusion with out giving it up...they are MENTALY NOT RIGHT UP THERE IN THE COCONUT!,,you see them 4 week past competition they are back to 180 somethign sometime 190 with the water on their body....and no aas so now they arw softer and hold more water and not on hormones since the supply was done and what they wanted to achieve in their head was achived,,
it is only americano thing by thew way ,, only americano ,, it is much less severe around the world,, maybe i just cant stand americano fake natural bodybuild who knows,, it is disgusting phenomenon
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We have a "Positive" board?
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you seem kinda pissed off. so what's your real name, ever gonna tell us?
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We have a "Positive" board?
Yes, for the homosexuals.
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only when you read postings like thi sin this tread you actualy start to understand how sick the cult of bodybuild is truly is ,, 200lb 5'9 lol seeing all abs lol you have here fellas go 20 years so call natural ,, yet on hormone boardings and serious talk bodybuilding,, say they scared to shrink and lose strength lol
i sometime think bodybuild is truly a mental deasease,,
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE FELLAS WHO WRITE IN TREADINGS LIKE THESE HAS BEEN TO HORMONES IS NOT NATURAL AND NEVER WILL BE NATURAL ,, SOMETIME WHEN IM LOOKING IN OTHER PLACES ON THE THUNDERDOME ASIDE FROM GOSSIP AND I SOMETIME DO BECUASE I LIKE LOOKING INTO FELLAS BRAINS AND HOW THEY THINK..SOMETIMES WHEN I DO IT I CAN NOT BELIEVE THE LIES FELLAS LIVE,,
yes this posting will be erase,, and yes you will continue claimingni natural and all this balonie ,, but reality of the matter is lik esomeone else say here....none of you would surpass age 28-30 with out hormone into his blood ,, you woudnt even do bodybuild,, rememeber you dont go to gym 2-3 times a week as a recreational activity done next to your bowling actvitiy ,, most of you are americanos that live a very very sad lie,, you really need to wake up in the morning...look into the mirror and spit at yoru image FOR! what you write here ,, what i actualy read here ....doesnt go along with 4000 postings on bodybuild boarding ,, doesnt go with sitting and being on bodybuild baording all day long,, i could pull lists from steroids boarding and put it here to embaress all of you but why do it? you live the worst life possible and that life is called
LIFE OF A LIAR AND TWISTER OF THE TRUTH!
wize up ,, it doesnt have to be through finding jesus ,,that lead no where,, wize up and be honest with yourself ,, dont pretend ,, dont pretend to just go on hrt to not lose strength ,, you never see the numbers 200lb 5'9 anything! with single digit and you wont see no abdominals at this weight not even few...you will see semi hardness in delts and pecs,, and no! no! you will not just lose the ability to get shreded ,,,getting shreded as treue natural at 5'9 will put you down to the 165lb IF YOU ARE SUPER SUPER LUCKY AND VERY VERY GOOD GENETIC STRUCTURE! ,, you dont just get shreded from 200lb to 190lb natural ,, it doesnt work this way friends,, not 190 not 180 and sadly with many not even 170,,
why the lies? i think the reason behind it is mental sickness and the inability to tell yourself ,, IM AN AVERAGE RESPONDER TO HORMONES AND I JUST DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT CONNECTIONS FOR THE CONTACTS NEEDED FOR LEGIT HORMONES AND CONSISTANCY IN THOSE LEGIT HORMONES!
yes this posting will be erased and i have no problem with it ! but the ones who read it knows gh15 is right to the t not 90% right but right 100% ,,
there is no natural bodybuild,,
the natural liar ...usualy log into a bodybuild steroid boarding....about 2.5 to 3 months out of a compeittion seeking products,, IT IS ALWAYS THE SAME,,
the following happen ,, they will send a text to a friend ...most likly my pupils saying ,, you are right bodybuild is all drugs,, then within days log into steroid boarding and ordoer what needed,, AND THEN lie LIE LIE LIE and say they done it natural ,, why? BECAUSE THEY GREW INTO A SHOW using a product that put them at 169lb 5'10 6% .....that is not a hormonized number in the mental state of those fellas and thus the lie
i really really came to despize bodybuild for this ,, and i blame many of you the so call naturals for this,, this is mental sickness,,
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LOL Did anyone read this garbled mess word-for-word? :-\
What is all this bullshit, and saying things like "there is no natural bodybuilding?" ::)
Meltdown of cataclysmic proportions.
(http://www.rarst.net/images/Areyoupreparedforcomputermeltdown_10B23/meltdown.jpg)
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LOL Did anyone read this garbled mess word-for-word? :-\
What is all this bullshit, and saying things like "there is no natural bodybuilding?" ::)
Meltdown of cataclysmic proportions.
STFU, cotton picker.
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LOL Did anyone read this garbled mess word-for-word? :-\
What is all this bullshit, and saying things like "there is no natural bodybuilding?" ::)
Meltdown of cataclysmic proportions.
(http://www.rarst.net/images/Areyoupreparedforcomputermeltdown_10B23/meltdown.jpg)
Hey, new meltdown pic. Sweet. Nice to see you finally changing things up when you can't make an argument. Do you also have a new version of the baby crying pic that you've been using for years when you're losing a debate?
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Hey, new meltdown pic. Sweet. Nice to see you finally changing things up when you can't make an argument. Do you also have a new version of the baby crying pic that you've been using for years when you're losing a debate?
"Benny B" is a self-hating black man with homosexual tendencies, strong homosexual tendencies. On top of that, he lacks formal education but thinks he can be political now that there is a half-black president. ::) ::)
What a failure of a man.
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"Benny B" is a self-hating black man with homosexual tendencies, strong homosexual tendencies. On top of that, he lacks formal education but thinks he can be political now that there is a half-black president. ::) ::)
What a failure of a man.
Its all the whitey's fault ::)
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Its all the whitey's fault ::)
True, we should have never abolished slavery, than this shit wouldn't happen. ;D ;D ;D
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"Benny B" is a self-hating black man with homosexual tendencies, strong homosexual tendencies. On top of that, he lacks formal education but thinks he can be political now that there is a half-black president. ::) ::)
What a failure of a man.
No, he does have a formal education. Eased right in on the myriad of affirmative action programs and finance to large extent by White tax payers. Instead of being grateful he is resentful of White people and goes through life with that perpetual chip on his shoulder seeing everything through the prism of race. No matter how successful he is, and he is in a materialistic way, he will always have that victim mentality and convince himself how life is so much harder for him and how tough he's had it. His militant Reverend Wright/Nation of Islam Black power B.S. is rapidly wearing thin and is doing Black people no favors. He supports Obama for one reason, and one reason only, and that is because he is Black. And no matter what the facts and figures are, Obama will always be right. And still he will insist we live in a racist country.
He may have a nicer car, bigger house, and higher paying job than I do, things that he feels the need to point out, but I wouldn't trade places with him in a million years. To go through life so angry and resentful and constantly trying to impress other people by showing them how much money he has is a sad and pitiful way to live.
Fight the Power!
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STFU, cotton picker.
QFT
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i'm natural but i like to read and post in treadings and boardings like this
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No, he does have a formal education. Eased right in on the myriad of affirmative action programs and finance to large extent by White tax payers. Instead of being grateful he is resentful of White people and goes through life with that perpetual chip on his shoulder seeing everything through the prism of race. No matter how successful he is, and he is in a materialistic way, he will always have that victim mentality and convince himself how life is so much harder for him and how tough he's had it. His militant Reverend Wright/Nation of Islam Black power B.S. is rapidly wearing thin and is doing Black people no favors. He supports Obama for one reason, and one reason only, and that is because he is Black. And no matter what the facts and figures are, Obama will always be right. And still he will insist we live in a racist country.
He may have a nicer car, bigger house, and higher paying job than I do, things that he feels the need to point out, but I wouldn't trade places with him in a million years. To go through life so angry and resentful and constantly trying to impress other people by showing them how much money he has is a sad and pitiful way to live.
Fight the Power!
Like i said:
True, we should have never abolished slavery, than this shit wouldn't happen. ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
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i'm natural but i like to read and post in treadings and boardings like this
You're a homo and you take it up the ass, that's what.
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You're a homo and you take it up the ass, that's what.
do you know how very unlikely that is?
only 5% of humans MAX are gay and less than 50% of gays have anal sex and of those only half would be receivers
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do you know how very unlikely that is?
only 5% of humans MAX are gay and less than 50% of gays have anal sex and of those only half would be receivers
Great response :)
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do you know how very unlikely that is?
only 5% of humans MAX are gay and less than 50% of gays have anal sex and of those only half would be receivers
Why would you know that, fucking closet fag, why dont you and wizard go get a room ::)
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do you know how very unlikely that is?
only 5% of humans MAX are gay and less than 50% of gays have anal sex and of those only half would be receivers
Great response :)
Ok, seems i was wrong, you're homosexual and "The Wizard" takes you up his ass. :-* :-* :-*
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Why would you know that, fucking closet fag, why dont you and wizard go get a room ::)
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so basically youre saying that you cant be a competitive bodybuilder if natural-I agree-but what about just looking good-for a natural guy weighing 190-200 lbs whats the lowest bodyfat% i can expect?
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STFU, cotton picker.
Your posts are vacuous, your insults mundane and endemic of a small mind.
In essence, just like the video game who's name you carry...you are boring. ;)
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Hey, new meltdown pic. Sweet. Nice to see you finally changing things up when you can't make an argument. Do you also have a new version of the baby crying pic that you've been using for years when you're losing a debate?
LOL @ "pellius." :P
You've gotta love our 55 year old steroid addict who looks like a bloated beet-red shrink-wrapped sausage, lives in a two-room shit hole and clings to every thread of "gh15" like a toddler to his momma.
I've been using the ole meltdown photos for years. What "argument" am I losing, jelly brain? ::)
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"Benny B" is a self-hating black man with homosexual tendencies, strong homosexual tendencies. On top of that, he lacks formal education but thinks he can be political now that there is a half-black president. ::) ::)
What a failure of a man.
lol
Good effort, but a massive FAIL nonetheless. You can't even refer to me without having a racist meltdown filled with stereotypes to fit your erroneous conclusions. PATHETIC :(
"Donkey Kong II"...haha. Oh, brother. ::)
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No, he does have a formal education. Eased right in on the myriad of affirmative action programs and finance to large extent by White tax payers. Instead of being grateful he is resentful of White people and goes through life with that perpetual chip on his shoulder seeing everything through the prism of race. No matter how successful he is, and he is in a materialistic way, he will always have that victim mentality and convince himself how life is so much harder for him and how tough he's had it. His militant Reverend Wright/Nation of Islam Black power B.S. is rapidly wearing thin and is doing Black people no favors. He supports Obama for one reason, and one reason only, and that is because he is Black. And no matter what the facts and figures are, Obama will always be right. And still he will insist we live in a racist country.
He may have a nicer car, bigger house, and higher paying job than I do, things that he feels the need to point out, but I wouldn't trade places with him in a million years. To go through life so angry and resentful and constantly trying to impress other people by showing them how much money he has is a sad and pitiful way to live.
Fight the Power!
Damn, I have been renting a whole lotta space in the head of "pellius." ;D
I couldn't get past the first couple of sentences of your pablum without literally laughing out loud. Your strange attempts at internet psychoanalysis of someone you don't know anything about are bemusing to say the least. :P
You have a lot of issues regarding race that you need to work out, along with your buddy "Donkey Kong II" and the rest of the cast of losers in this thread. I guess since not much has happened for you in life, getbig is your outlet to attack "those Blacks" and put them in their place. lol Maybe things will work out for ya one day, son. :-\
Fight the power, indeed! ::)
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LOL @ "pellius." :P
You've gotta love our 55 year old steroid addict who looks like a bloated beet-red shrink-wrapped sausage, lives in a two-room shit hole and clings to every thread of "gh15" like a toddler to his momma.
I've been using the ole meltdown photos for years. What "argument" am I losing, jelly brain? ::)
Nobody's laughing, boy. Just you. And it's that nervous awkward laugh.
You can keep adding years to my life, claim any life style, and mock my physique but people here already know how old I am, where and how I live, and that my physique blows you away. Have you ever posted a pic?
And what "argument" are you losing? Benny, is there anybody on this board that takes you seriously? When people listen to you most just remain silent but shake their head. It's like when they first heard Reverend Wright speak. You're the stereotypical militant Black ingrate that goes through life as the perpetual victim. Nobody cares. Nobody takes you seriously.
"Truth to power." What the fuck does that mean?
Now say I'm 60 years old, live in a one room shit hole and that I look like a concentration camp prisoner or post the meltdown pic or baby crying pic if I've left you speechless.
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Damn, I have been renting a whole lotta space in the head of "pellius." ;D
I couldn't get past the first couple of sentences of your pablum without literally laughing out loud. Your strange attempts at internet psychoanalysis of someone you don't know anything about are bemusing to say the least. :P
You have a lot of issues regarding race that you need to work out, along with your buddy "Donkey Kong II" and the rest of the cast of losers in this thread. I guess since not much has happened for you in life, getbig is your outlet to attack "those Blacks" and put them in their place. lol Maybe things will work out for ya one day, son. :-\
Fight the power, indeed! ::)
Ah yes, the "renting space in your head" comment. Still recycling the same old comebacks every time you get your sorry ass handed to you? Yah Benny, I think about you a lot.
And of course we are the ones that have issues with race. It's always the rest of the us that has a problem with race.
Go back to "literally laughing out loud" and convince yourself that anybody here even remotely respects you.
"Speaking truth to power." Oh brother. Right out of that Black comic strip that nobody reads.
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Why do you guys let "benny n" get under your skin? He's nothing but a skidmark on his crackmother's welfare panties. He's bullshit because he's colored and that's the how and why of it. Personally I'm not sure why he appears on a bodybuilding site, but to each his own.
You really think Benny gets under anybody's skin? When he doesn't infect a thread nobody gives him a second thought. It's amusing to hear the classic text book black militant spout off. It reminds us why it was a huge mistake giving his kind special programs and entitlements. It never makes a person grateful. Because it breeds a sense of entitlement it only leads to more resentment and anger because they feel they deserve more. Once people realize, and they are soon doing so now that we've elected a Black president, that no matter what they do, no matter how much they give, no matter how much they ignore -- they will always be considered racists. The day will soon come when no one will give a crap at these angry, whiny Kneegrows, except for guilty White liberals.
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Is this really the worst thing that goes on in the "bodybuilding cult" gh???
How about all the alleged drug dealing, gay for pay/prostitution, going to jail and premature deaths?
You've already said that people that claim natural when they are not have something to gain from it. Get over it.
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Don't sweat it. The day of the colored president is almost over. The jiveass Obama Hussein Jamal has made it impossible for another hammerhead to get elected. Were heading into Republican times, and we will all be a lot more comfortable after they fumigate the WHITE House and President Perry moves in. They should make Obama Hussein Mohammed carry Perry's luggage in.
lol @ "fumigate"
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Where is all this resentment coming from gh15? You make more money per pro bodybuilding show than all of the competitors combined. For a guy getting RICH off of this sport you sure get all up in a twist over the stupidest shit. Guys lie about being natural whoopty fucking do!!! Who cares!!! Go be rich as fuck someplace and stop spending so much time on here being mad over stupid shit.
You need a hobby. The big thing these days is hang gliding and what not, the sky jumping suits seem pretty cool. Maybe taking up something like that will occupy your down time.
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Where is all this resentment coming from gh15? You make more money per pro bodybuilding show than all of the competitors combined. For a guy getting RICH off of this sport you sure get all up in a twist over the stupidest shit. Guys lie about being natural whoopty fucking do!!! Who cares!!! Go be rich as fuck someplace and stop spending so much time on here being mad over stupid shit.
You need a hobby. The big thing these days is hang gliding and what not, the sky jumping suits seem pretty cool. Maybe taking up something like that will occupy your down time.
It's about all the kiddos that believe the liars and waste all their money on worthless supps and all their time following training routines that even the liars don't do.
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trenbolona ace,,
already dicusedd how strong this drug is,,it pretty much make fellas with balonie genetic into bodybuilders... that should tell you how strong this drug is...
the doses: ofcourse you can see trenbolona work as low as 50mg every 2 day inject...you surly can,,you will look very good ...yet! with trenbolona unlike! with testosterona...the higher the dose ...the nastier and freakier the bodybuild become..and i mean it! ,, the bodybuild will see changes that he will sacrifice his social life for ...sad but true,,not theat bodybuild have social life but this is another story lol ,,
testosterona...the higher the dose...the bloofier you look unless you have gh running in system...with trenbolona ace...the higher you use the BETTER THE LARGER THE MORE CONDITIONED AND THE MORE S E P E R A T E D you look
while testosterona puff your skin up,, trenbolona ace thin is down ! it eliminate the puffy skin and thus say bye bye to the bloofy look ,,it get the skin to a shrink wraped mode with time! it depends ofcourse on your begginign bodyfat level,, it will be diff for fella like tbom and fella like no one,,tbom it will take months....no one it will take 10 days lol actualy from the first day it will be going visualy its because the body is already in state of anabolizm and low bodyfat with no one and with tbom he has muscle but it is covered with water and fat and in the doubles....never the less tbom will be able to look like competetive bodybuild ...it will only take him another 2 months lol sometime 4-5 if body is realy stubbern and the fella love his ummm i dont know love his goolash and the higher caloric shit foods...still trenbolona wil cut through the fat like knife cut through butter and with months will bring tbom to the single digit and seperated like a competetive bodybuild...not top but competetive to begin with
now,,
the actual changes from tren ace and what to expect:
i will talk about the typical 12-13% bodybuild not the single digit ones becaue the single digit ones are already know everything there is to know,, they may not be profesionals but they been in it for so long they can speak it in their dreams ,, so this is for 12-13% bodyfat rathr than 8%..
this are the changes you will see,,
week 1,, you will feel pumped but insted of bloofy feel of testosterona pump you will have the feeling of pump from the inside of the muscle while the more self knowing individuals who recognize changes fast will notice their face ...yes their face taking a diff look ,,they will be the only ones who notice it ,, it is something you notice personaly since it is only the beggining and no one else that see you will notice ,,they will think you are crazy if you tell them anythign so keep it to yourself,, face iwll start getting the high boxer type of look,,hard to explain ,, it is week one so nothing visual yet aside from pump ...tremendous strength and i mean tremendous! big diff than what you were before ,,and when you will expect to see your midsection bloat...and say something is not right here the belly got to be bloated...you will take your shirt up and notice that no! it is actualy looking tighter!,, yes yes this is week 1! since you are 12% you wont see much more ,,obliqes will start being noticed well and the girl will comliment that this is the area of the body she like the most right before she sucking your cock,, she wil comment on it because she wil be able to see it on you : ),, remember this is after 3-7 injects of trenbolona ace into blood at 100mg every inject
week 2-3
this is when progress being made and you start seeing your body transforms ,, still nothing like a pro bodybuild...nothing like top amatuer....but! you will start noticing that the pecs and delts are seperating,, they reduce fat yet remain full and start getting seperated as in water go into the muscle insted of outside of muscle,, this is a stage where you will still have water between skin and muscle so it wont be to an impressive level seperation wize,,but! the seperation will occure and in this 2-3 weeks try not to be crazy and dont take pictures every day ,, take them few times a weeek not every day you will go nuts,, trenbolona changes are only daily for the single digit fellas and the 8% and under,,so for you since you started 12% and now you are about 10-11.. try to not take many pictures every day because at this bodyfat levels pictures can be deciving ...one time you look great one time you look decent etc ,, not good comparisons,, at the end of this stage you will sit at high single digit sub 10%,, 9-10%
week 4-8...
this is when you will start getting comliments not only on how BIG YOU LOOK but you will start hearing the word LEAN ,, you will walk around and you will hear alot of wondering of how you got so lean ,, no one will say skinny ,, no one will say small ,, they will all use the word LEAN ,, lean this lean that,, still not thickly lean ,, the thickly lean comes little after down the road,, in this stage you get the YOU LOOK LEAN MAN comments,, this is when veins start becoming very visible in places you are not used to while sitting watching tv you will see veins on back of legs on forarms on inside of forarms on arms on traps on chest,, everywhere again it depend on how prone to veins you are but you will see the veins you have enhanced! ,,you will also get more serpeated and it will be to a level that when you take pictures you finaly will decide to keep them and wil feel very bad to delete them because they will look very good
week 9 and on ...
this is what seperate the REAL bodybuild from the wanna be ,, this is where the true mutation coming into play and you really start looking like magazine fella,, it is when you dont need to flex to see the seperated muscle in all its glory ,, it is when you stand and get compliments all over about how YOU ARE BOTH THICK AND LEAN aka YOU GET INTO A ZONE CALLED RIPPED AND THEN A BETTER ZONE CALLED SHREDDED,, those zones are again happeingn for you only after 2-3-4 of constant trenbolona usage because....you were 12-13% to begin with ,, and you had to build the trenbolona ace into blood and work that fat off with out cardio and with out losing even minimal power or muscle,, you also wanted to live normal life and eat pretty normal so this is why it take 2-3-4 months sometimes even 6 months,,
in any case,, at the end of this stage you are a walking bodybuilder that is ready for stage ,, looking 4 weeks out on a regular basis ,, you pretty much look nicely thickly lean ...aka seperated to a very noticable level ,, you get a lot of compliments fellas dont mind complimenting but they need to see something worth complimenting to do so ...and in this stage you wil have it friends,,
this is important stage past the 8th week it is important because the bodybuild start becoming a serious bodybuild and advanced level bodybuild,, this is also a godo time to re introduce gh ....and do them together ,, and cycle testosterona the RIGHT way so you keep getting drier or maintain driness while growing and dont kill the seperations and the lines you created in thsoe 3 months...rememebr even little amount of water kill seperation ,, and testosterona is BIG BIG ENEMY OF SEPERATION BIG BIG BIG ENEMY YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO WORK IT AND YOU NEED HGH WITH IT IF YOU GO HIGH DOSES ,,
equipona wil be very good at this stage with the trenbolona ace and the gh ,,,tstosterona shoudl cycled in and out as in higher doses and then cruising ,, i much prefer you do it with propioneta or phnyl propioneta
now,, this is a program for the average GYM RAT ,, aka someone who want to get into advanced bodybuild,, this is not for already advanced bodybuild,, advanced bodybuild are always lean ,, they never see 10% even when you think they are 10% they are 8% ,, they just hold water and puff themselves up some with balonie they play with ,, rest assuree of that,, so this program is for fellas who start 12-13% even 14% and want to get down to competetive bodyfat,,which is 6% or lower
i wont talk of side effect since i alredy mentioned them in bible million times,, side effect from trenbolona ace = growth ! lean growth! ,, there are soem side effects that fellas have hard time with which i wrote about ,, some fellas cant deal with it ,, mainly mentally ,, but over all ,, trenbolona is HIGHLY HIGLY HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY and then some more highly important to get the look you all desire
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God bless your soul, gh15.
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pure gravy
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Awesome, glad ive got 150ml of Tren A coming this week :D
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Had Tren. Ace in my last cycle, can't wait for the 2nd cycle and to up the dosage.
I had Tren. Ace from week 3 to week 10 in my cyle. Dosing was about 240 mg/week.
4 shots during the week, mixed with propionate 100mg. Propionate dosage was 400 mg/week.
At the end I replaced Tren with Winstrol and that was the biggest mistake I could make. I should have continued with Tren/Prop combo.
Very dissapointed in the usage of Winstrol. I won't make the same mistake again.
I heard It here: Tren for the win... you ain't winning if you ain't trenning... THAT WAS CLASSIC
:) :) :)
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gh15, how can I get a chest like Nasser's? My chest is horrible. :-X
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you cant,, chest is not something strong with you ,, even if you up the dose ,, you will have to do a all diff approach and go off from thre power lifting balonie into bodybuilding,, trenbolona ace may bring you to look 190 with condition of frank mgrath your hero but! the pecs in your case i dont thikn can be improved ,, they get grow bigger with the body but the arms will always take away from them ,, same for delts,, pecs is more genetic ...this the honest truth,, delts are more to do with drugs,, and arms is combo of both ,,
gettign up on the m1t or halodrol or superdrol or dianabola or anadrola wont do a damn thing,, you need something like trenbolona ace,, ask nortom he may be able to cook for you some or ask his cook to do so for you ,, you 2 actualy look pretty similar ,, you with much less usage but you get what im saying,, genetic wize pretty much if you are on same drugs you end up looking the same level of bodybuild,,
you are not only 165...you are 165 lean ...this is due to specific things you have done,, if you wantd to look like average joe bodyfat you would be 185lb right now,, so you know what you doing but you just not on the right products and your chest is just very weak point,,
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gh15, how can I get a chest like Nasser's? My chest is horrible. :-X
did you ever deadlift 500?
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you cant,, chest is not something strong with you ,, even if you up the dose ,, you will have to do a all diff approach and go off from thre power lifting balonie into bodybuilding,, trenbolona ace may bring you to look 190 with condition of frank mgrath your hero but! the pecs in your case i dont thikn can be improved ,, they get grow bigger with the body but the arms will always take away from them ,, same for delts,, pecs is more genetic ...this the honest truth,, delts are more to do with drugs,, and arms is combo of both ,,
gettign up on the m1t or halodrol or superdrol or dianabola or anadrola wont do a damn thing,, you need something like trenbolona ace,, ask nortom he may be able to cook for you some or ask his cook to do so for you ,, you 2 actualy look pretty similar ,, you with much less usage but you get what im saying,, genetic wize pretty much if you are on same drugs you end up looking the same level of bodybuild,,
you are not only 165...you are 165 lean ...this is due to specific things you have done,, if you wantd to look like average joe bodyfat you would be 185lb right now,, so you know what you doing but you just not on the right products and your chest is just very weak point,,
gh15 approved
Great post, I appreciate the advice even if it just helps me accept the reality of the situation regarding my genetic limitations.
Did you see this video of Nasser?:
He's bang on here.
did you ever deadlift 500?
Not technically but I'm feeling very confident about it for the next time I attempt that which I don't think should be much longer from now. That's basically my goal which will more or less be a triple body-weight deadlift. Anything more than that is just a bonus.
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is there a bible's link of how to cycle testosterona while on trenbolona by gh15?
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Great post, I appreciate the advice even if it just helps me accept the reality of the situation regarding my genetic limitations.
I mentioned this awhile back - your insertions are your limitation here in regards to chest. I have the same thing. Just accept it, lean out, and make your shoulders bigger. You're not doing competitive bodybuilding and you'll look better than 95% of folks out there.
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What ratio of test to tren should you take?
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Is this the tren ace look that you're talking bout god?
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Is this the tren ace look that you're talking bout god?
Think that pic is from around 92 or 93 when the WWF were in the middle of a steroid investigation, Warrior and all the other juiced guys had to seriously cut the doses, find a pic of warrior from the mid 80's when he is huge, late 90's in WCW he was rock hard, sure he did a lot of Finaject :D
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"... since you are 12% you wont see much more ,,obliqes will start being noticed well and the girl will comliment that this is the area of the body she like the most right before she sucking your cock,, she wil comment on it because she wil be able to see it on you : ),, remember this is after 3-7 injects of trenbolona ace into blood at 100mg every inject...
rofl I would like to get some tren right now
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gh15 a guy that is running on mild thoses of test only and is around 9-11% bf can he start tren together with some anadrols (and keep the test) or will the a-bombs kind of jeopardize the tren effect??
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So this is with just trenbolone acetate alone? (noob question)
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What ratio of test to tren should you take?
Bump. Answers anyone?
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If I remember correctly, cycling Test was explained in the phases of bodybuilding for the poor.
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Bodybuilding for the Poor - Phase 3 & Re Phase 4
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this is the meat and potatos phase,, now i will go on starting writing everything you need to listen and follow,,
this is meant for bodybuilders! ,, this is not meant for 15 year old that just enter gymnasium 1 month ago,,
this is a phase 3 of bodybuilder for the poor,, i will bring bring you to the mountain ,, i will help you get to troy alvez type of physiqe! but! from then on you are on your own ,, you will need much more money or sponsor to get to what you see today at the top,, so i will bring you up to 220 6% but from then you are on your own friends,,
phase 1 and 2 are must follow ,, and follow directly as i wrote it there,,yes you can chnage fish type but over all follow directly as i wrote it
ingredients needed,,you will have to put some money investment but since you save on supplmenet you wil have this money,,
again this is a program to follow for the fella with the worst bodybuild genetic out there aka vince goodrum and bring him up to ron heris level,, so if you are better and most likley you are...you will end up looking at the level zoen of troy alvez minus the years of experience and muscle maturity
ingredients
testosterona propioneta 100mg/ml 2 vials
testosterona enantato 250mg/ml or 300mg/ml or 350mg/ml depending on your contact ofcourse and wether human grade or private chef 2 vials
trenbolona ace ,, this is HIGHLY IMPORTANT 100mg per cc only ace! 2 vials
masterona 100mg per cc 2 vials
equipona 300mg per cc 2 vials
human growth hormone 1 kit 100iu only! nordic ! AGAIN ONLY NORDIC GH!
thats it ,, all you need you will need to buy it every single month so this will be an expense of about 500-600 dollaros first time around and then from third month! you will only need to put 300 dollaors a month ,, which is equal to your supplment sepdning,, this is the cheapest it can be to get to advance level bodybuild 300 dollaros every 4-8 weeks is the cheapest possible way to get there i cant get it any cheaper for you im sorry ,, most bodybuild spend 1000s in a matter of a 3 month period thousands of dollars! sometimes surpassing 10 k in a matter of 90 days
so this is not your case...you will need 500-600 for first 2 months and from then on 300 dolaros every month
alright,,
injection should be done every time before bed,,
i also want all injects to be done into the ass right and left cheeks ,, again this is your responsbility to be bodybuilder i write my own opinions and i discuss matters for enterntainment only...
i want you to start within PRIMING YOUR BODY with hgh ,, that mean you will work hgh into your body for 30-60days as a prime 4 iu a day ,, only 4 iu you hear that right just make sure you get nordic hgh and no other gh! you want that gh because it is the purest one and you want to get the most out of your gh,, yes you can find other decent and good gh but nordic gh never seem to dissapoint for years upon years going already close to 10 years
now,, i want 4 iu into DELTS 2 iu morning when wake up 2 iu night,, yes only this way and just train ,, do it for 25 days along with equipona at 900mg 3 times a week monday wed friday 300 mg each time that is it! no testosterona yet,, at the end of this 25 days i want you to add trenbolona ace at 100 mg every second day! make sure it is LEGIT TRENBOLONA at 100mg every second day and continue with the second kit of gh for another 25 days at 4-5 iu a day 2.5 and 2.5 morning when wake up and night before sleep
now,, at the same time you add trenbolona ace i want you to add propioneta at 50mg! every 2nd to 3rd day depending on your own feeling since i cant see you you will decide but not every day! every second to third day,, 50 mg!
when 50 day mark arrive i want you to take the enantato ,,and do a 3 time weekly injectiong of 300mg each time mon wed and friday,, can also be tuesday thursday and saturday all up to your choice and how you do things and if you are lazy some fellas like to take their sweet time thats how bodybuild do at times,, this will give you 900-1000mg of testosterona enantato a week when you are done 50-60 days of hgh prime ,, with the enantato i want you to INCREASE the trenbolona to 100 mg every day 5 times a week ,, it is NOT easy ! trenbolona ace is very very tricky it works on your brain it change your personality even if you think it doesnt it does ,, it is the strongest personality change hormone out there but it is also a must to achieve any of today condition ,,you need to be careful with it if you can not tolerate every day 100mg you will have to continue every second day 100 mg ,, but if you can then 100mg a day will be better for this phase
so ,, enantato 900-1000 mg a week ...trenbolna ace 100 mg a day or if really cant 100 mg every 2 days,, and! NO ANTI ESTROGENS! i want you to introduce masterona if you have problem with high estrogen after 50 days! you should not have any problem but if you do introduce masterona at 50mg every 2 days! the masterona i stil dont want in only if you suffer from high levels of estrrogen which you shoudl not not even when you get on 1000 mg testosterona yuo still should be ok with estrogen ,,
now the masterona itself i want you to introduce after 3 weeks on enantato at 1000 mg ,,
so what we have until now,,
we have day 51 start,, you go on enantato 900-1000 mg a week,, you still keep equipona at 900 mg ,, you have trenbolona ace at 100 mg every second day and after another 3 weeks you add in masterona at 50mg every second day ,, you can! combine injections,, it is all oil shoudl be no problem but it is still usualy 3 injects a week atleast no matter how you do it ,, you want it at 3 day injection a week so its ok ,,
now you will notice that by day 80-90 from your start you pretty much suddenly look like one of the best bodybuilder to ever touch foot in your gymnasium ,, this is in 3 months! you still wont be quality of top bodybuilder due to maturity and experience and time ,, and also due to lack of products notice you are poor! there are some things you can not do like bodybuilder with more money,, but you can defenitely have better quality physiqe than them
so....
day 80-90 you REINTRODUCE HGH to the blood,, do it on day 90 ,, this time you LEAVE testosterona enantato in may even increase it to 1200mg a week dependign on personal choice,, you leave equipona in still 900mg and you take trenbolona ace out! insted of trenbolona ace you bring in anadrola preferebly solution and do 100-150mg every day ,, again preferably injectable! you can still do orals too,, rememer you take out the trenbolona ace! you do gh again for 30 days this time you do it at 6-8 iu a day only for 30 days! if you can afford 60 it will be better for you but 30 will be ok too ,,you can even inject it every second day! at 6-8 iu a day then a day of no hgh then 8 iu a day then day of no hgh etc etc
you will then approach 120 days which is 4 months since you started and i will want you to start reducing the testosterona doses again ,, i will make phase 4 in next few days to discuss the next steps,,
again the nex phase will involve the possibility of diuretic application and a quick discussion about insulina and why im against it ,, it will also involve what needed to get to the 220 + at cometition condition because all those fellas are addicted to insulina and gh ,, you just dont step on stage 5'7 220 shredded if you are not hgh and insulina addict,, so we will talk abotu it too but again you are poor so i bring you up to 220 6% from then you will either have to find a good job or will have to have help or do something to get the ability to proceed,, most good bodybuilder at 200lb wipe floor with heavier bodybuilders...especialy if in light heavy classes ,, so its not that bad to get up to 200 210 220 6% my friends,, and this is the way you do it ,,
few things,,
you never give up! no matter what you see in the mirror after 11 days ,, you dont just say oh im tired of this,, you will see a lot in the mirror after lefit gh been in your blood for 11 days but! 11 days is not enough time to create body compsition change it takes some more time,, this is 120 days here that you should start ,, then will go to phase 4 which will polish the physiqe and bring it to competition level ,, not stage ready but pretty much 2 weeks out ,, i dont think yuo need it for every day life....but in general if you can get to look 200+ 6% on every day life at 5'10 or under no one will mistaken you for anything other than bodybuilder and you will be the best in your city in most cases,,
good luck to all ,,
phase 4 will come in few days
sealed bible index,,
gh15 approved
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If I am doing a cut to stay lean, do I up the calories when I start the tren ace,or do I stay on the same "diet"? Awesome read btw.
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If I am doing a cut to stay lean, do I up the calories when I start the tren ace,or do I stay on the same "diet"? Awesome read btw.
Read the bible... if you are lean and you have gh and/or tren in your blood, you need to eat the refrigerator in order to grow. Fat will simply just not get put on your body so unless you are prepping for a show, cut back on strictness of diet.
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Read the bible... if you are lean and you have gh and/or tren in your blood, you need to eat the refrigerator in order to grow. Fat will simply just not get put on your body so unless you are prepping for a show, cut back on strictness of diet.
I am reading the bible daily now, I am still learning. Thanks. Can`t wait to try tren again lol.
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If I am doing a cut to stay lean, do I up the calories when I start the tren ace,or do I stay on the same "diet"? Awesome read btw.
How you expect him to answer on this ?
just look at the mirror
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Noob question wasn't answered guys (I guess it might have been somewhere in the "bible" but I havent read much of it)..
I was wondering if the description of these results you're giving here are with trenbolone acetate by itself or along with other compounds?
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would it be a total waste of time to do 50mg twice a week?
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Yeah but he's not black
Looks like i won. ;D ;D
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Is Gh15 saying that coach is a slightly dishonest individual and he didnt in all actuallity break the bench press world record 25 years ago?
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Hold on there gh15
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I am sorry to interrupt but Layne Norton is all natural baby
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Hold on there gh15
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I am sorry to interrupt but Layne Norton is all natural baby
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Hey GH15, I was asked to forward you this from the creator of your GH15 page on facebook. He doesn't have an account here and is waiting for approval and says that he never thinks he's gonna get it.He asked me to forward you this.
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yo GH, im the guy behind the facebook page,
I cant register on the forum, so i found a friend that will send you this message,
glad you liked the fb page, spreading the truth for the ones which need it most, nothing else,
have a few questions though,would really apreciate it if you answer me if you have the time.
this is maybe the longest PM u ever had btw:
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What is the best drug to REDUCE water retention and to get that dry look, what doses ?
Is it possible without diuretics ?
here's a little story of mine...I went on test e dianabol about 5 months ago,
i was desperate a girl fuckin fooled me, BIG TIME
she was giving me the looks, always looked at me when i pass by her SMILED and all,
STARED at me when i walked at the swimming pool ( i looked very good for that time natural physique)
,when i ride my motorbike, she always looked at me when i pass by her,
she posted facebook statuses that i found myself in
i really thought she was into me, maybe she is, i know i liked her a lot, still do goddamit
didnt wanted to only fuck her and nothing else, wanted something more, thats just the way i am...
BUT HEAR ME ON THIS BRO':
When i actually asked her to go out she fuckin rejected me,
She was driving a bicycle in MY STREET LOL, she lives street from me
,i figured she was waiting for me to ask her,
and i pulled beside her with motorbike, pulled some random BAD joke on purpose ,
she laughed, and i asked her to take a ride with me, to make me company.Classic way to meet a girl first time.
she said like" Who the hell are you ?"Smilled at first, and then said "No, i gotta get home to eat..."
I said, "Are you sure ?","NO!" yelled this time,and i went home no point asking her three times.
GH, I was burned big time, first i was confused but
then after a few days i was pissed off like im using Zack Khan tren ace dosages.
Does she expect me to chase her all over town,every day,
send her roses and stuff like that at home adress, i mean for fucks sake...
lol after all that signs ( i dont know what else to name them )
( and i said wtf and started pinning with TEST i didnt give a fuck at that time,
thats how i got interested in BB DRUGS and started studying them like crazy )
I really hate when girls play with me like that....
, what's ur view on this? 2 months have passed since then
i know for ceartant when i take my shirt off after using your tips about drugs,
NEXT YEAR at the swiming pool in my town ripped and shredded...
i will make her feel sorry that she played with me and im sick
of the games girls play with me all the fuckin time,
happened to me thousand of times already...
theyre probably whores but im good person and they always fuck me up goddamit
sorry i had to open myself about this, got any tips man ?
there she is brother:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/29359915854119090444610k.jpg/
shes much prettier in person, maybe not to someone else, but to me, yes. As you can see, fake nails, fake hair
i dont know what to think anymore...
-Anyway the damn water retention from TEST was just ridiculous,
im from serbia test depo is CHEAP AS FUCK, but its good gear (GALENIKA)
so im gonna use it along with tren ace, but water is my main problem,
im prone to water retention from test,
i know im gonna get lot of water and it will blur my abs,and i wont look conditioned.
its gonna look ridicolus even at 250mg test depo a week,
which i plan to use.Does 100mg test depo a week
make any SENSE ? i dont know what to do,
but test is a must for thickness as you said.
Like a music, you could not use only BASS (test),
and make a good song, you got to have
the other music effects(drugs) for the complete song (physique).
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Second question is to tell me what gear is this guy on:
[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/22280318679948736881655.jpg
[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/18473717465062765491655.jpg
[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/19626017581753682691655.jpg
Just some schmug from my gym,He claims natty of course,but hes a fuckin arrogant
liar like everyone else regarding that subject,
he says hes CREATINE USER ONLY, and everyone else believes him,
I bust my ass for 3 years and, he trained for A LESS THAN A FUCKING YEAR !!
he was skinny as fuck before he started training and in record time,
he blows me away with size, not conditioning,separation and symetry, but SIZE yes.
Im sick of this,im taking the next step with YOUR HELP.
im guessing SOLO dianabol high dose
( most common cycle in serbia gyms SERBIAN RAT cycle i call it lol )
He holds a fuck load of water, face is moon like,
of course he'll go down about 20 pounds when off right ? ure a master
when it comes to "what's this guy's cycle" so im sure you'll be right about this one.
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what do i need to take, considering that i have trained 3-4 years like a mofo,
disciplined,I BELIEVED in all BS that suplement industry has fed us,
I drank my protein shake, took BCAA and all the other
useless bulshit untill i found GETBIG forum, and your posts,
what do i need to take to look like this guy, this is my ultimate goal,
to have about 200 LEAN pounds,6%-7% true BF,little water retention etc. CONDITIONED
what do i need to take and for how long to look like this guy, help a brother out:
[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/charlesantoinemontreuil.jpg
[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/charley.jpg
[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/charley1.jpg/
[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/charley3.jpg
[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/249/montry.jpg/
Guess what - he is natural also ( LOLD HARD ), i believed that
untill recently actually, when i realized that i simply do not
put on lean mass in the gym i used to the first 2 years training.
Im very disciplined, dont drink, dont smoke,dont party,
take bodybuilding very very seriously,
its in my blood... but for now i dont plan to compete,
because im not good enough YET.
also fuckin cant stand this society as it is today, dont know what the fuck is wrong with me,
like i was born in the wrong fuckin decade, i even listen the music from the 70s,80s, early 90s etc...
Anyway i really think that i can look like this guy with the right gear,
i good chest, always get compliments when i took shirt off in gym,
its thick i really built it from the heart,mind and muscle connection,
i cant imagine how it would look like if i pin myself with the right drugs EOD.
have wide shoulders,small waist, thick back that i plan to widen a bit more,
maybe my arms are a little weak because i overtrain them, but overall they're
not that bad when pumped, and its fuckin time to take the gear for this kind of physique
,tell me what do i need to look like this,
i cant afford HGH and im 19 years old so i think i can
get away without HGH for a 7 or 8 years, that's what i learned reading your posts.
Tell me what do i need to take and ill take it as long as you say,
doesnt fuckin matter if its a year ill do it,as a matter a fact i dont plan comming off actually.
if someone is dedicated and will get the most out of it then its me.
I have great mind and muscle connection that I achieved
during these 3-4 years natural wasting TIME ( $%#@Q$@# ),really blast myself with light weight,
well i use weight that is heavy enough to lift STRICT of course,
and all the gym rats laugh when i do this, but when shirt goes
off, silence in the gym is not uncommon.
I think I reached my genetic potential,
and i really just wanted to look like this guy from the start,
im only VERY DISAPOINTED because as of late i realized that it is not posible
to be that lean and hold that much conditioned mass without DRUGS.
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What kind of diet do i need to look like this fella above ?
,I know diet doesnt matter when tren is in, well not that i can
eat fat like im on HGH but still i will shed fat and gain lean pounds right ?
I can afford enough chicken and rice,fruits and vegetables of course,
and i plan eating like this as long as it takes.
Can i look like that if I eat clean like this, or i must bump the calories
in with PASTA, BREAD, POTATOES... and stuff like that ?
I plan on eating when hungry,
fuck that 2-3 hours a meal "bodybuilding.com" bullshit,
i listen to my body always, and gear will do its thing.
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just my pic from my first cycle, galenika depo and danabol DS... i
think i looked worse than my natural days, the conditioning just isnt there,
as you can see i hold niagara falls in my body
( or maybe i have like 15-19%BF really dont know)
its not conditioned so it looks ridicolus to me, but im ready to advance
in bodybuilding chemistry following your advice:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/p1060832r.jpg/
sorry about the toilet...
Anyway, sorry about long PM, i hope you have time reading it,
Keep up the good work GH ure the best, facebook page was my idea,
I saw that you supported it so i didnt delete it,
maybe when I have some time i can make fully functional WIKI PAGE, i plan on doing it,
because your posts must be viewed and read by people
like myself and other good people that are willing to do
what it takes to get to specific level in bodybuilding.
Proud to be your pupil
peace
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best drug period is trenbolona ace,, it is a special special drug and the reason behind bodybuilding and especialy competetive bodybuildgin,, as i said before bodybuilder lie,, moment bodybuild tell you 1 gram of testosterona it is for you to get fucked up...why woudl bodybuild tell you how to achieve his look? for what reason lol ,, know what im saying friend?
so...when bodybuild say he use 1 gram testosterona what it means is....he confuse the letters testosterona with the letters trenbolona....what he really take is 1 gram trenbolona a week lol and to you he say 1 gram testosterona lol makes a huge diff on physiqe ,, one bodybuild will look liek a damn mover of furniture and the other bodybuilder him...the one who gave the mover the bad advice...will look like superman lol then you have the twisters...who say they dont use anything low testosterona but they dont tell you just how much trenbolona they use with their 200 mg testosterona lol and the cases go on and on ,, this is how bodybuikld are bunch of liars ,, thats how it is friend,,hopefuily the generation i raised will be better ,, it is better you can sense it alredy everywhere but time will tell,,
so again the drug you look for is trenbolona ace! it harden you it takes out water and later on you can actualy notice it ,, it takes some time,, lol a whole 10 days lol but you will notice everything pretty fast and afteer few months you just have quality thickness that have nothing else to do beside going up and up and then when anabolizm is there and quality thickness is going higher and higher guess what happen to bodyfat...it goes lower and lower...it takes couple weeks thought dont expct it after 4 days lol if you are lean it will happen within first 10 days and from then on you become invinsible and get looks and comments from every black fella with best genetics... ::) in the hood and every whore who pass your way ,, you will know you hit the jackpot when the girl with her boyfriend give you the deer in headlights eyes,,you know the look it is a look reserved for cheaters and you get it ALWAYS when on trenbolona ace when it kicks visualy ,,
let me read the rest it is big thing you wrote so ill read and answer in next postings,,
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what you look for fordrying effect is masteron when already lean ,, this will do it ,, diuretic is not must if you dont go on stage ,, if you want to look stage ready any given moment which is stupid...then yes diuretic needed
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in regarding to girl,, this is a typical americano girl that go by looks,, first of ,, you dotn buy girl no roses before she is your girl ,, second you dont chase her you make her chase you ,, third ,, you dotn spend money on her,,
again ,, the drug you look for is trenbolona ace not testosterona ,, if you pulled on that bike after trenbolona ace in blood for 4 months....the answer would have been maybe with a wink or a smile or she would make sure you know she want to go out ,, then again you put her on a pedestal ,, this is not the way with thsoe types,, look at her picture ,, she keep small ,,americano girls are not small but in their head they know the way to the americano fella is through keeping small ,,they get fat afetr marriage but before when they are single they will do whatever ,, all their image is based on what the fella think of them ,, so she is already into the look scene ,, you need it either gresat face or great body will work on her,, then how long it will last? probably not long unless you got BRAINS and most importantly heart,, generation nothingness and heart dont go well together ,, very cold approach ...but in order to get her ...trenbolona ace should hav ebeen in blood not testosterona or low dose testosterona with mainltrenbolona ,, rememebr while yuo fellas look at jon cena which is attractive fella....you think about testosterona and gh ....the reality is that its nto testosterona and gh ...it is TRENBOLONA ACE AND GH ,, with some testosterona to balance it all
you do notice how attractive he is for the female rigth? this is how trenbolona addict look like jon cena to a higher degree or a lesser degree,, the muscle is there ,, you see it ,, skin tight on muscle ,, shape is there its all trenbolona my friend,, testosterona look is more of the old halk hogan look the machoman look ,, it is good look but it is also a strong bloated look which has its place but with female this look doesnt work ,, with men it does ,, but female like to see it not only to know its there via strength but to actualy see it in their eyes to touch to actualay see chizelness and sculpted muscle that cut through the skin ,, this is what females get embaressed by and americano girls mainly mainly are prime nominee to fall for this ,, so trenbolona ace is your answer into her pussy and maybe life my friend,,
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depo galenika 100mg a week is ok but you need propioneta ,, try to get a good chef to do you propioneta or phnyl propioneta ,,much better than long ester for what you need especialy if tendency to hold water
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first fella you show me is on tri blends,, propioneta trenbolona ace and masterona ,, he have vials of trenbolona on the side to get the trenbolona dose as high as he can ,, he is average respond ,, nothing to ever compete ,, just a kid wanting to impress pussy in gymnasium ,, hgh too but not enough money to make impact ,, he is on low doses of gh here and there
gh15 approved
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gh15 , what were ronnie colemans cycles through the years? 36iu of bbq sauce daily? ive read that he used a lot of primobolan
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sorry ,, the second set of picture if the fella on tri blends all you can eat and some gh in and out ,, the first fella i didnt look let me see
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in regarding to girl,, this is a typical americano girl that go by looks,, first of ,, you dotn buy girl no roses before she is your girl ,, second you dont chase her you make her chase you ,, third ,, you dotn spend money on her,,
again ,, the drug you look for is trenbolona ace not testosterona ,, if you pulled on that bike after trenbolona ace in blood for 4 months....the answer would have been maybe with a wink or a smile or she would make sure you know she want to go out ,, then again you put her on a pedestal ,, this is not the way with thsoe types,, look at her picture ,, she keep small ,,americano girls are not small but in their head they know the way to the americano fella is through keeping small ,,they get fat afetr marriage but before when they are single they will do whatever ,, all their image is based on what the fella think of them ,, so she is already into the look scene ,, you need it either gresat face or great body will work on her,, then how long it will last? probably not long unless you got BRAINS and most importantly heart,, generation nothingness and heart dont go well together ,, very cold approach ...but in order to get her ...trenbolona ace should hav ebeen in blood not testosterona or low dose testosterona with mainltrenbolona ,, rememebr while yuo fellas look at jon cena which is attractive fella....you think about testosterona and gh ....the reality is that its nto testosterona and gh ...it is TRENBOLONA ACE AND GH ,, with some testosterona to balance it all
you do notice how attractive he is for the female rigth? this is how trenbolona addict look like jon cena to a higher degree or a lesser degree,, the muscle is there ,, you see it ,, skin tight on muscle ,, shape is there its all trenbolona my friend,, testosterona look is more of the old halk hogan look the machoman look ,, it is good look but it is also a strong bloated look which has its place but with female this look doesnt work ,, with men it does ,, but female like to see it not only to know its there via strength but to actualy see it in their eyes to touch to actualay see chizelness and sculpted muscle that cut through the skin ,, this is what females get embaressed by and americano girls mainly mainly are prime nominee to fall for this ,, so trenbolona ace is your answer into her pussy and maybe life my friend,,
gh15 approved
^^^^^^Classic ;D
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first set of picture is fella on turinabol or oxandrolona and testosterona low doses testosterona ,,
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I swear to god I am the only person who understands women on this forum
The girl in the pic is not amercian, she is eastern european, the kind who when she comes to america will seduce the first guy she sees then seduce his richest friend then his richest friend until she walks down 5th ave in 1000 dollar skirts and looks everyone in the eye with the I don't give a shit about you attitude and feels above everyone.
That the guy thought of her so much before he even asked her out, she really accupied his mind for no reason other than the illusion of female beauty.
I've figured it out, why some guys crave to belong to a beautiful woman, it's an age thing and a mother thing. At some point when you reach a certain age and u have both paretns around, your mother lets go of the strings she's been pulling all your life, she kind of abandons you in a way and when you come back to visit it is clear that while u were young, you were her man and your dad was #2 it seemed, but now ur dad is #1 again and you have an ah hah moment. You realize the love you felt fromy our mother wasn't necessarily a lie, but it was your mother manipulating you, it was her having power over you while she could. And now you can see through a woman's smile, you understand that girl who has a boyfriend but flirts with you is a dog and needs to be disciplined as such. etc etc
I used to think gh15 was not giving good advice when he said do some trenbolone and she will like you, but now I realize, what else can you say? How can you change how someone's mind works? How can you help them to understand women, when you yourself had the same mentality when you were in his position?
You can't, but you can control how someone looks, so u say do tren, and that's all u can really do
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second fella is eatitng exactly what you eat,, he is nothing to write home about yet....he can do some fitness balonie but he is eating exactly what you eat only diff is he has trenbolona to get the food to the right places insted of shitting it every morning 9 times,, and generaly speaking its not how much you eat for this level it is wehat you are on because body is a fat burning serious anabolci machine ,,the only way to lok like him is to be on the same drugs he is on ,, and again it doesnt happen after 3 days,, not even on trenbolona ,, it depend on what you start with ,, if you are 10%....it will take coupel months to get to the impressive level trenbolona ace gives,, if you are doubel and mid to high doubles it wil take longer,,,
trenbolona ace does one thing that no other steoid does...it thicken you from within as in MUSCULARTORY THICKNESS,, it thckenrs the fibers with water that is put intoooooo the muscle ,, the fibers get closer together and water go into the muscle and rthe muscle push our and harden creating sculpting effect no other drug can do not even hgh because hgh increase muscle fiber but still need the trenbolona to develop this muscle,, so yes hgh and trenbolona is key for freakinesss but trenbolona got to be there always because ask any bodybuild what would threy give up trenbolona or gh ansd the answer will alwyas be GH,,because with out gh you can still be good bodybuild,, with out trenbolona ace your look will NEVER BE THE SAME
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she looks like a twat. :D
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I swear to god I am the only person who understands women on this forum
The girl in the pic is not amercian, she is eastern european, the kind who when she comes to america will seduce the first guy she sees then seduce his richest friend then his richest friend until she walks down 5th ave in 1000 dollar skirts and looks everyone in the eye with the I don't give a shit about you attitude and feels above everyone.
That the guy thought of her so much before he even asked her out, she really accupied his mind for no reason other than the illusion of female beauty.
I've figured it out, why some guys crave to belong to a beautiful woman, it's an age thing and a mother thing. At some point when you reach a certain age and u have both paretns around, your mother lets go of the strings she's been pulling all your life, she kind of abandons you in a way and when you come back to visit it is clear that while u were young, you were her man and your dad was #2 it seemed, but now ur dad is #1 again and you have an ah hah moment. You realize the love you felt fromy our mother wasn't necessarily a lie, but it was your mother manipulating you, it was her having power over you while she could. And now you can see through a woman's smile, you understand that girl who has a boyfriend but flirts with you is a dog and needs to be disciplined as such. etc etc
I used to think gh15 was not giving good advice when he said do some trenbolone and she will like you, but now I realize, what else can you say? How can you change how someone's mind works? How can you help them to understand women, when you yourself had the same mentality when you were in his position?
You can't, but you can control how someone looks, so u say do tren, and that's all u can really do
ONLY AFTER 3-6 MONTHS ON TRENBOLONA ACE! IN THE RIGTH DOSES ....WHEN YOU LEAVE THE GYMNASIUM AT NIGHT ,, AND SOEM WHORES PULL THEIR CAR CLOSE BY AND SHOUT HOW MUCH THEY WANNA FUCK YOU ,, ONLY THEN! YOU REALIZE WHAT GH15 HAS SAID ALL THIS TIME IN THE BIBLE,, the day will come that my puils ,,the new ones...will feel that words and have that feeling coming their way,, it may take few months maybe a year...but the day will come when the new pupils will walk in gymasium and know KNOW every woman there stare with the fuck me eyes ,, it is a feeling only fellas at the top of the physiqe department feel ,, it doesnt mean you have to be huge fella,, it mean the wquality of the muscle is so good...that you know YOU KNOW you have made it
only then you will realize what gh15 has said all those years
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and to answer number 5 lol ,, you are nuts...i jsut sw your picture,, you look better than both fellas you showed me ,, this is competetive bodybuild within 3 months of trenbolona ace and propioneta with come gh ,, just low self esteem this is probably cost you the girl ,,you look MUCH better than both felas you showed me ,, MUCH better from this little picture
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haha yeah, when dude's pic came up I was like - people laugh at him in the gym? lol
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lol ,, he look very very good ,, many bodybuild have low low self esteem really sad ,, that fella burry both the fellas he showed me ,, burry them! lol
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The picture of the girl he put up, she is what I call a princess, she needs to be second behind the #1 guy and your man thinks he's the number one guy if he dates her. It's not so much low self esteem as it is ambition and he's climbing up a tree he shouldn't be yet. Stop looking at princesses and look lower down at the average looking nicer girls, a girl who's pretty but has a flaw like a big nose or something lol, at least learn to fuck and learn how to make a woman feel loved with a soft touch first before you go up against princesses, cuz they can tell if you know how to fuck or not bu the look in your eyes
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The arrogant guy in the gym who juices and got jacked in a fraction of the time with way less effort than you put in. That's the guy who is fucking your princess in the ass and taking pics of her on all fours and spread eagle and showing it to all his friends laughing his ass off while she texts him every five minutes.
How old are you? I feel bad for guys like you. Classic Mr. Nice Guy = Classic failure with women (98% of them). I have no doubt you are 100x more decent then the juicer but he's the one standing over her grabbing her head and skull fucking her while taping it with a hidden camera so he can show it to his friends while you jack off at her pics thinking of things you want to buy her and places you want to take her.
You're a nice decent guy -- not many around like that anymore. You're looking for a nice decent girl -- not many around like that anymore. Kind of sucks.
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Is there really a line-up to register at getbig ???
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Is there really a line-up to register at getbig ???
Yea, I had to wait a month for my account to be approved.
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lol pellius u can be a dick sometimes, hidden camera lol. Nice guy or not this is his ambition kicking him in the ass. Look he made a facebook page to please 15, he writes him that letter - the kid has ambition, he wants to date the hottest girl and be the boss's best friend. But ambition isn't free, sometimes u get burned
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The arrogant guy in the gym who juices and got jacked in a fraction of the time with way less effort than you put in. That's the guy who is fucking your princess in the ass and taking pics of her on all fours and spread eagle and showing it to all his friends laughing his ass off while she texts him every five minutes.
How old are you? I feel bad for guys like you. Classic Mr. Nice Guy = Classic failure with women (98% of them). I have no doubt you are 100x more decent then the juicer but he's the one standing over her grabbing her head and skull fucking her while taping it with a hidden camera so he can show it to his friends while you jack off at her pics thinking of things you want to buy her and places you want to take her.
You're a nice decent guy -- not many around like that anymore. You're looking for a nice decent girl -- not many around like that anymore. Kind of sucks.
Jesus christ ! LOLOLOLOL !!
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The arrogant guy in the gym who juices and got jacked in a fraction of the time with way less effort than you put in. That's the guy who is fucking your princess in the ass and taking pics of her on all fours and spread eagle and showing it to all his friends laughing his ass off while she texts him every five minutes.
How old are you? I feel bad for guys like you. Classic Mr. Nice Guy = Classic failure with women (98% of them). I have no doubt you are 100x more decent then the juicer but he's the one standing over her grabbing her head and skull fucking her while taping it with a hidden camera so he can show it to his friends while you jack off at her pics thinking of things you want to buy her and places you want to take her.
You're a nice decent guy -- not many around like that anymore. You're looking for a nice decent girl -- not many around like that anymore. Kind of sucks.
lol! but somehow true!
you should be a nice guy offcourse... but not a sucker!
woman always go for the badboy type.... sexually that is... for marriage they usually settle with a safe alternative....
best to be a mix of both... a nice guy to hang around with, but in the bedroom you should be a bad , bad man! lol!
to the guy with his girl problem, changes are that she wanted to FUCK you! then you go over to her with a lame joke and offering a ride on you're bike...
changes are she does not like motorbikes and hated your joke... and she lost interrest!
you should have been more direct, whores work that way...
and by the pic, she is a whore.. no marriage material man! fuck her and leave her....
just my 2cents...
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"GH15'S Underground Steroid And Dating Handbook"
Come out with this and it would sell!
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If you actually read the whole posting, its actually a breif summary, cliff notes if you will, of the bible. Great read!
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in regarding to girl,, this is a typical americano girl that go by looks,, first of ,, you dotn buy girl no roses before she is your girl ,, second you dont chase her you make her chase you ,, third ,, you dotn spend money on her,,
again ,, the drug you look for is trenbolona ace not testosterona ,, if you pulled on that bike after trenbolona ace in blood for 4 months....the answer would have been maybe with a wink or a smile or she would make sure you know she want to go out ,, then again you put her on a pedestal ,, this is not the way with thsoe types,, look ,, so trenbolona ace is your answer into her pussy and maybe life my friend,,
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I almost pissed myself laughing when I read this. Classic, fucking classic!!
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The arrogant guy in the gym who juices and got jacked in a fraction of the time with way less effort than you put in. That's the guy who is fucking your princess in the ass and taking pics of her on all fours and spread eagle and showing it to all his friends laughing his ass off while she texts him every five minutes.
How old are you? I feel bad for guys like you. Classic Mr. Nice Guy = Classic failure with women (98% of them). I have no doubt you are 100x more decent then the juicer but he's the one standing over her grabbing her head and skull fucking her while taping it with a hidden camera so he can show it to his friends while you jack off at her pics thinking of things you want to buy her and places you want to take her.
You're a nice decent guy -- not many around like that anymore. You're looking for a nice decent girl -- not many around like that anymore. Kind of sucks.
Pellius, what's great about this is yóu owned this guy so bad, but he can't even be mad cuz you just kept it so real and honest that it just hurts!! Sometimes the truth hurts!!
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The arrogant guy in the gym who juices and got jacked in a fraction of the time with way less effort than you put in. That's the guy who is fucking your princess in the ass and taking pics of her on all fours and spread eagle and showing it to all his friends laughing his ass off while she texts him every five minutes.
How old are you? I feel bad for guys like you. Classic Mr. Nice Guy = Classic failure with women (98% of them). I have no doubt you are 100x more decent then the juicer but he's the one standing over her grabbing her head and skull fucking her while taping it with a hidden camera so he can show it to his friends while you jack off at her pics thinking of things you want to buy her and places you want to take her.
You're a nice decent guy -- not many around like that anymore. You're looking for a nice decent girl -- not many around like that anymore. Kind of sucks.
This is so true. I don't even know what else to say. Fucking spot on.
pellius, the wife and I have push some cash aside to visit Hawaii again next summer. It'd be a fucking honor to meet you 8)
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lol pellius u can be a dick sometimes, hidden camera lol. Nice guy or not this is his ambition kicking him in the ass. Look he made a facebook page to please 15, he writes him that letter - the kid has ambition, he wants to date the hottest girl and be the boss's best friend. But ambition isn't free, sometimes u get burned
Are you kidding me??!!! I use to be that nice guy. And I just didn't make this shit up in my head. There was this girl that I was "in love" with. Cute sweet type. And then one my scum bag friends (actually cool guy who just liked to enjoy life) and a bunch of us were kicking it at the beach and then he says. "Oh shit," and starts rummaging through his back pack and then says, "you guys know Sharon. Check this out." And as the pictures are being passed around it's my princess sticking a dildo in her ass, sucking it, fucking herself with it spread eagle. You see the top of her head with my friends cock in her mouth as he's taking pics of her on her knees while he's standing over her...." The guys are just all laughing and high fiving each other while I put on a smile while being sick to my stomach and heart broken. This is the typical guy who doesn't give a shit about women as actual human beings and once described them as a life support system for a pussy.
And there was another case similar except I got to see the whole thing on another stud's "nanny cam" that he brought over during a Super Bowl weekend showing him with another one of my "potential" sweet heart that I was "working on", violating her in every possible and brutal way. And this guy was some doughy, soft, bloofy dude going to a Community College part time and working as a pizza delivery driver.
There would be others I would lose out to not figuring out how a nice, decent, pretty clean cut guy always got looked over for the bad boys. One of the mistakes I made was always asking women what they looked for in men. Seems logical, huh? LOL! It's only when I asked Cris Young, a guy who could barely afford his studio apartment and had just an old motorcycle (which he at least kept clean) about women. He claimed that he could bed any woman he wanted. And he did. I got to see it first hand. He didn't really have a real job but taught some kick boxing, did part time maintenance work at a bike shop, sold weed.... He said that the biggest mistake men make is they go the nice guy route. They put women on a pedestal. When they stand above you like that they will shit on you. You don't have to be a dick but you have to be the boss. But if you had to go one way or another, being a dick always trumps being a nice guy. When you're Mr. Nice, he told me, and this is what I'll never forget because it applied so much to me (I was already in my mid twenties), you will occupy the absolute lowest rung in the pecking order on a woman's ladder. And once you attain this status you are doomed forever. You will never have a chance. And the status is the status of being a women's FRIEND.
She'll use you to give her rides, do errands for her, buy her lunch, and, as once happened to me, help her move her furniture only to have another guy show up at the end of the day to pick her up while she gives me a peck on the cheek and says how sweet I am and the guy shakes my hand and says thanks for helping out Ronnie (Veronica). At least if she hates you you don't have to do shit for her. A woman's friend just gets used like her little boy while some other guy is banging her head against the bed wall board hammering her doggy style while he looks at the hidden camera and smiles with a thumbs up sign.
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we can all learn a lot from pellius :D
and btw guys what he sais is the TRUTH , i have a similar experience not exacly though but in the bigger picture what he sais is spot on
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Pellius, what's great about this is yóu owned this guy so bad, but he can't even be mad cuz you just kept it so real and honest that it just hurts!! Sometimes the truth hurts!!
No. Not trying to own him at all. Just giving him a wake up call like I got mine. It changed my life and I want to past it on. It still bothers me when I see nice decent guys get that shaft while the tatted out, mean mugging, bad ass always has a hottie clinging to him.
Reading this guys post he sounds exactly like I did before I wised up. Looking back I can't believe how pathetic I was when it came to women. How pathetic, in a sympathetic way, this guy sounds. I really do feel his pain. I also couldn't believe how fast things changed once I changed my attitude. Just act like a man. Make the decisions. Don't ask for permission. Don't faun over her. Have a life so that it doesn't revolve around her. Don't try to get anybody to like you. If they like you you'll know. As soon as she said NO he should have just said something like, "So I guess sucking my cock is out of the question, too?" I use that exact line that my scum bag mentor told me to use. At the time I just couldn't do it. It just wasn't me. I wasn't brought up that way. I was already around 24 yrs old and only been a strip club twice and hated it. Hated to see women treated that way. He said just do it. Just say it. So I experimented on a girl that I knew and didn't really like that much and she already had a boy friend. So I just went for it. Chris always got the girls and he was a loser. I had a College education and I was whacking myself off to sleep every night. When she turned me down I just said, "So I guess sucking my cock is out of the question, too? She just looked at me in utter disgust and couldn't believe I would say that. It just was so out of character with me. She just shook her head and said she didn't realize what a disgusting person I was. I just said, "Whatever" and made a quick getaway because I didn't want her to see how embarrassed I was.
Guess who called me that night? Guess who was sucking my dick the next night?
Remember the Wonder Years? This was a classic scene about being reduced to the "friend" role in a woman's life. Scroll up to :50 and watch the next 30 seconds. Just Classic. Of course you can have women friends, but NEVER EVER be a "friend" to a woman you are interested in. Once she sees you like that you are more like a brother. And you are forever doomed.
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i'm still reading pellius's post over and over again i know so many ppl that are in his past situation i can't help saying that he is SPOT ON again lol !
gj ..
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This is so true. I don't even know what else to say. Fucking spot on.
pellius, the wife and I have push some cash aside to visit Hawaii again next summer. It'd be a fucking honor to meet you 8)
It would also be both a pleasure and honor to meet a fellow gh15 apostle. As I believe history is being made here on this board the eleven chosen ones must one day all meet. Say in Vegas during the Olympia. We will wear our gh15 smocks and walk through the Expo pointing out the liars and twisters.
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It would also be both a pleasure and honor to meet a fellow gh15 apostle. As I believe history is being made here on this board the eleven chosen ones must one day all meet. Say in Vegas during the Olympia. We will wear our gh15 smocks and walk through the Expo pointing out the liars and twisters.
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these are my top 11 favorites of the thunderdome in no particular order lol i have more but those are the 11 i would chose to be stuck on a lost island with ,, they woudl get us out of there lol
1. donky KONG! genious fella
2. pallius,, very honest fella! ! !
3. sevastes from romania,, he is europe for me ,, HOME,,good fella,, sharp fella
4. van b ,, probably best hormone poster in history of internet,, better than william also very very on the money with everythign
5. no one,, he can smell balonie from a distance and know hands on bodybuild like a true bodybuild used to do..becaus...he is,,a BODYBUILDR!
6. gear101,, elf ,, and also hands on!
7. my pupil stavio,, he from young age never lied ,, HE NEVER LIED ,, always was true to himself and was real to thunderdome from very young age
8. dustin,, highly highly knowledgable with regard to hormones,, he is also hands on fella,, no balonie around
9. the coach ,, although a twister...he stimulate me and smart fella,,protector of the jews ,, seed of good people that disapear slowly
10. disgusted,,he has the courage to spit out under his REAL NAME,, facing fire all the time,, this is big thing
11. will grant,, beside the whores photos lol he is big big time in the know,,he been there longgggg time and very hands on and honest
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It would also be both a pleasure and honor to meet a fellow gh15 apostle. As I believe history is being made here on this board the eleven chosen ones must one day all meet. Say in Vegas during the Olympia. We will wear our gh15 smocks and walk through the Expo pointing out the liars and twisters.
Hahahahaha that would be epic! ;D ;D ;D
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It would also be both a pleasure and honor to meet a fellow gh15 apostle. As I believe history is being made here on this board the eleven chosen ones must one day all meet. Say in Vegas during the Olympia. We will wear our gh15 smocks and walk through the Expo pointing out the liars and twisters.
Lol the gh15 apostle meetup. That's cool man. When you guys do this invite the other disciples too. It'll be cool. Pellius your posts about this situation are great. It sucks to see these guys that were in special ed classes pull hot chicks and here I am with an advanced degrees and still single. Your advice's helping more people you think.
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Lol the gh15 apostle meetup. That's cool man. When you guys do this invite the other disciples too. It'll be cool. Pellius your posts about this situation are great. It sucks to see these guys that were in special ed classes pull hot chicks and here I am with an advanced degrees and still single. Your advice's helping more people you think.
During the time I was getting lessons from my womanizing Master, Chris Young, I was also taking a Physics class at UCLA. As kind of a break from all the math stuff we had to read a biography on any Physicists of our choice and do a report on his human side. What kind of person did he strike you as? I chose Richard Feynman. He was part of that team of geniuses at Los Alamos Manahttan Project working on the developing the atomic bomb. This wasn't your typical research project. They had a war to win and the race toward atomic/nuclear weapons was in full swing. This was serious business and they were working around the clock.He also discovered the fatal flaw in the space shuttle that burst into flames upon reentry during the Reagan administration.
There was one chapter in this book that really stood out because you got to see a different perspective of Feynman. You got to see this genius as an ordinary guy trying to score with chicks and being an abysmal failure. Then he met his womanizing master. The same basic principles apply.
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Except from Physicist Richard Feyman's "Surely, You're Joking Mr. Feynman!" and his problems and experiences with picking up women in the chapter titled, "You Just Ask Them?"
"I'm absolutely convinced that you know exactly what you're talking
about. Now, what about the lessons?" [says Feynman]
"OK," he says. "The whole principle is this: The guy wants to be a
gentleman. He doesn't want to be thought of as impolite, crude, or
especially a cheapskate. As long as the girl knows the guy's motives so
well, it's easy to steer him in the direction she wants him to go.
"Therefore," he continued, "under no circumstances be a gentleman! You
must disrespect the girls. Furthermore, the very first rule is, don't buy a
girl anything -- not even a package of cigarettes -- until you've asked her
if she'll sleep with you, and you're convinced that she will, and that she's
not lying."
"Uh... you mean... you don't... uh... you just ask them?"
"OK," he says, "I know this is your first lesson, and it may be hard
for you to be so blunt. So you might buy her one thing -- just one little
something -- before you ask. But on the other hand, it will only make it
more difficult."
Well, someone only has to give me the principle, and I get the idea.
All during the next day I built up my psychology differently: I adopted the
attitude that those bar girls are all bitches, that they aren't worth
anything, and all they're in there for is to get you to buy them a drink,
and they're not going to give you a goddamn thing; I'm not going to be a
gentleman to such worthless bitches, and so on. I learned it till it was
automatic.
...
A few minutes later she's not with the lieutenant any more, but asking
the bartender for her coat and handbag, saying in a loud, obvious voice,
"I'd like to go for a walk. Does anybody want to go for a walk with me?"
I think to myself, "You can keep saying no and pushing them off, but
you can't do it permanently, or you won't get anywhere. There comes a time
when you have to go along." So I say coolly, "I'll walk with you." So we go
out. We walk down the street a few blocks and see a cafe, and she says,
"I've got an idea -- let's get some coffee and sandwiches, and go over to my
place and eat them."
The idea sounds pretty good, so we go into the cafe and she orders
three coffees and three sandwiches and I pay for them.
As we're going out of the cafe, I think to myself, "Something's wrong:
too many sandwiches!"
On the way to her motel she says, "You know, I won't have time to eat
these sandwiches with you, because a lieutenant is coming over..."
I think to myself, "See, I flunked. The master gave me a lesson on what
to do, and I flunked. I bought her $1.10 worth of sandwiches, and hadn't
asked her anything, and now I know I'm gonna get nothing! I have to recover,
if only for the pride of my teacher."
I stop suddenly and I say to her, "You... are worse than a WHORE!"
"Whaddya mean?"
'"You got me to buy these sandwiches, and what am I going to get for
it? Nothing!"
"Well, you cheapskate!" she says. "If that's the way you feel, I'll pay
you back for the sandwiches!"
I called her bluff: "Pay me back, then."
She was astonished. She reached into her pocketbook, took out the
little bit of money that she had and gave it to me. I took my sandwich and
coffee and went off.
After I was through eating, I went back to the bar to report to the
master. I explained everything, and told him I was sorry that I flunked, but
I tried to recover.
He said very calmly, "It's OK, Dick; it's all right. Since you ended up
not buying her anything, she's gonna sleep with you tonight."
"What?"
"That's right," he said confidently; "she's gonna sleep with you. I
know that."
"But she isn't even here! She's at her place with the lieu --"
"It's all right."
Two o'clock comes around, the bar closes, and Ann hasn't appeared. I
ask the master and his wife if I can come over to their place again. They
say sure.
Just as we're coming out of the bar, here comes Ann, running across
Route 66 toward me. She puts her arm in mine, and says, "Come on, let's go
over to my place."
The master was right. So the lesson was terrific!
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Pellius, I appreciate you elaborating your experience and lessons learned from during your course of being a nice guy. It would be great if you have more stuff to write on this topic for "educational purposes" as I'm proud to shamelessly admit that I'm currently in the same stage as you were before, & I need to wise up real quick. :-[
get on some trenbolona ace ! ;D
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trenbolona ace does one thing that no other steoid does...it thicken you from within as in MUSCULARTORY THICKNESS,, it thckenrs the fibers with water that is put intoooooo the muscle ,, the fibers get closer together and water go into the muscle and rthe muscle push our and harden creating sculpting effect no other drug can do not even hgh because hgh increase muscle fiber but still need the trenbolona to develop this muscle,, so yes hgh and trenbolona is key for freakinesss but trenbolona got to be there always because ask any bodybuild what would threy give up trenbolona or gh ansd the answer will alwyas be GH,,because with out gh you can still be good bodybuild,, with out trenbolona ace your look will NEVER BE THE SAME
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Serious question GH. If you have the shape and contour naturally then is Tren so important? 6'1 want to add about 10-14 lb dry lean muscle. 185 6%. is tren still the compound you would recommend.
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Are you kidding me??!!! I use to be that nice guy. And I just didn't make this shit up in my head. There was this girl that I was "in love" with. Cute sweet type. And then one my scum bag friends (actually cool guy who just liked to enjoy life) and a bunch of us were kicking it at the beach and then he says. "Oh shit," and starts rummaging through his back pack and then says, "you guys know Sharon. Check this out." And as the pictures are being passed around it's my princess sticking a dildo in her ass, sucking it, fucking herself with it spread eagle. You see the top of her head with my friends cock in her mouth as he's taking pics of her on her knees while he's standing over her...." The guys are just all laughing and high fiving each other while I put on a smile while being sick to my stomach and heart broken. This is the typical guy who doesn't give a shit about women as actual human beings and once described them as a life support system for a pussy.
And there was another case similar except I got to see the whole thing on another stud's "nanny cam" that he brought over during a Super Bowl weekend showing him with another one of my "potential" sweet heart that I was "working on", violating her in every possible and brutal way. And this guy was some doughy, soft, bloofy dude going to a Community College part time and working as a pizza delivery driver.
There would be others I would lose out to not figuring out how a nice, decent, pretty clean cut guy always got looked over for the bad boys. One of the mistakes I made was always asking women what they looked for in men. Seems logical, huh? LOL! It's only when I asked Cris Young, a guy who could barely afford his studio apartment and had just an old motorcycle (which he at least kept clean) about women. He claimed that he could bed any woman he wanted. And he did. I got to see it first hand. He didn't really have a real job but taught some kick boxing, did part time maintenance work at a bike shop, sold weed.... He said that the biggest mistake men make is they go the nice guy route. They put women on a pedestal. When they stand above you like that they will shit on you. You don't have to be a dick but you have to be the boss. But if you had to go one way or another, being a dick always trumps being a nice guy. When you're Mr. Nice, he told me, and this is what I'll never forget because it applied so much to me (I was already in my mid twenties), you will occupy the absolute lowest rung in the pecking order on a woman's ladder. And once you attain this status you are doomed forever. You will never have a chance. And the status is the status of being a women's FRIEND.
She'll use you to give her rides, do errands for her, buy her lunch, and, as once happened to me, help her move her furniture only to have another guy show up at the end of the day to pick her up while she gives me a peck on the cheek and says how sweet I am and the guy shakes my hand and says thanks for helping out Ronnie (Veronica). At least if she hates you you don't have to do shit for her. A woman's friend just gets used like her little boy while some other guy is banging her head against the bed wall board hammering her doggy style while he looks at the hidden camera and smiles with a thumbs up sign.
So much truth in this post. I feel bad for people who never figure this out. I also can't help but laugh at them sometimes too though
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FINALLY IM ON THE FORUMS FFS, thanks admins for aproving account, lets go:
GH15 thanks for the detail answers man, like i said i dont have plans to compete, but ill try to look the best I can with that three compounds u told me that guy was using because that's the conditioning and look im after.Will do it as long as it takes to have that kind of conditioning.
Guys, i just turned 19, dont know A LOT of stuff about girls, especially im not good at sepereting which are whores and which are not, like the first moment i see any girl,so fuck her, i dont care anymore, shes a bitch u are all right SPOT ON, when time comes, ill find a descent one and that's it, meanwhile the gear will do its thing i got a less than a year for summer to come, i think ill make good progress if i take prop masteron tren ace long enough...
pellius, funny thing is, about that guy u said he fucks her, that's probably 90% true, she liked a few of his photos on fb so i figured out what happened next lol He's fucking douche, hes on creatine only ! ( his words ) saddly 90% people in the gym believe him. :D
U didnt burned me with that post, i realize that stuff already, its true of course.
Anyway, anyone wants to help me create a wiki page about gh's posts, could use a little help...
and yes im a nice guy... its a curse, hopefully tren will fix that
welcome! that facebook page you made is great. With your positive attitude, I have no doubt you will be a pussy pulling maniac in a short period of time.
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Have you got links to the 3 or 4 indexes so far and we will try formulate and email around TO PROPER MEMBERS here the index from start to now
Food, gear, gh, insulin, lifestyle, rest
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Whitewidow.
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Unrageable has made quite an entrance on the forum.
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Milos is way too busy hiding from the POLICE to help in any way.
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Was actually looking for serious answers, foolish me
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girls will come and go, you will learn eventually, at this point nothing you do with them matters because none of the women you know now will be in your life when you are in your late twenties which is when people really become adults, you are obv a smart guy from the way you write and you have courage to do things in the gym you know are good for you even though people may make fun of you, good luck and # 1 thing you should know about women is use a condom
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Dude, I feel for you but I have a question, how old are you? I mean what is your experience with getting laid..... Dont think taking tren makes you become a pussy magnet..... thats rediculous, I got with hot bitches before I even started juicing...... I looked at your pic your build is good, if you dont know how to get women while at your worst i doubt taking bbing drugs for pussy will automatically make you a player, even though we all do it anyway.... its looks at first then personality plays a HUGGGEEE Role....
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Serious question GH. If you have the shape and contour naturally then is Tren so important? 6'1 want to add about 10-14 lb dry lean muscle. 185 6%. is tren still the compound you would recommend.
hormones do not create shape,, she is there when bodyfat is low,, and shapw can be superb and can be only decent or can be like vince blt y2k poop ,,
the reason for trenbolona is to be able to grow lean ,, as in to get the skin to attach itself to muscle and thicken the all muscle from inside ,, as in water from the inside of the muscle and harder and drier between musclel and skin ,, you know when you can see the skin take the shape of th emuscle ...its very attractive look ,, and its distinctive look where you look THICK nicely thickly as someone named it not too long ago,, its not that you only look lean ...its that you look QUALITY THICK,, the all idea about bodybuild is to be thick but low bodyfat right? thi sis what trenbolona ace causes ,, direct cause!
gh15 approved
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hormones do not create shape,, she is there when bodyfat is low,, and shapw can be superb and can be only decent or can be like vince blt y2k poop ,,
the reason for trenbolona is to be able to grow lean ,, as in to get the skin to attach itself to muscle and thicken the all muscle from inside ,, as in water from the inside of the muscle and harder and drier between musclel and skin ,, you know when you can see the skin take the shape of th emuscle ...its very attractive look ,, and its distinctive look where you look THICK nicely thickly as someone named it not too long ago,, its not that you only look lean ...its that you look QUALITY THICK,, the all idea about bodybuild is to be thick but low bodyfat right? thi sis what trenbolona ace causes ,, direct cause!
gh15 approved
Ok thanks for the info big guy. Ill probably try and get on some Turinabol/var low test for first cycle. But i will certainly bear in mind your info about tren if i want to step it up a gear. Always good to be able to make informed decisions.
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lol we are talkng to you like you are 12 years old, thunderdooooome!
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umm what's a condom ? :D
seriously guys , you didnt get what i tried to say... i didnt wanted only to fuck this girl, i actually felt something about her, that's whole different story, nothing easier to get laid for one night, but that's not what i wanted with this girl...nevermind, she showed that's shes a bitch for one night stand only.
your gonna get hurt bud, you need to build alot of confidence which it seems like u should have, get with or chill wit a whole lot of girls and find out theyre all the same and you will find another like her ... but theres that one girl in every guys life that they will never forget.. thats the truth.
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umm what's a condom ? :D
seriously guys , you didnt get what i tried to say... i didnt wanted only to fuck this girl, i actually felt something about her, that's whole different story, nothing easier to get laid for one night, but that's not what i wanted with this girl...nevermind, she showed that's shes a bitch for one night stand only.
That was one of the giveaways when I read you post, my friend. You don't even know her but already you had feelings for her. You're thinking about her, not even just having sex with her, just thinking about being with her. And she's thinking about how many more pics she wants to take of herself and post on FB and whether she should get a different hair style or new fake nails.
Don't put women on a pedestal. They fart and shit just like you. How many men do you know that belong on a pedestal? Not many, huh? Probably zero. Same with women. Just from your one post I'm betting that you are way more of a decent guy than most or all of your friends. You're not the type to get a girl drunk or high just so you can bang them and then brag about it to your friends. Chances are you are way more of a decent guy than the skanks you have "feelings" for.
I've been there, friend, all through my teens and mid twenties. It sucked. I was every girl's best friend. I was the one who got the call late at night from my princess asking me to pick her up at some club and take her home because she got into a fight with her boyfriend and was all drunk and depressed and needed a ride home. Yay! This was my big chance to be Prince Charming! Prove that I was the good guy. The guy she could depend on to always be there through think and thin. I would come to save her at a moment's notice at 2:00 in the morning.
LOL! While all my friends were bragging about who they scored with and putting another notch on their belt. I was putting notches on my belt counting the number times I got a kiss on the cheek told what a great guy I was and a real life saver.
Don't make something out to be more than it is. She, and the rest of them, are nothing special. There's no "one and only." There are tens of thousands of women out there that can you happy.
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gh15 = god of hormones
pellius = god of whoremones 8)
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the last paragraph in pellius's post is very very true, ALL women are the same. I would say 1/30 is a good girl, meaning she won't take advantage of you always picking her up at clubs when she is drunk, she won't think "this is the guy who does whatever I want." BUT, if you have a crush on even a good girl with whom you have this type of relationship, when you think it is time for you to make that move, you imagine going and kissing her and you know that it will be weird, you know that she doesn't really see you in the light of a guy who should be making moves on her.
To be nice to women is to please the human part of them, but to please the animal in them which is the stronger part of them you need to be able to discipline them and to enforce your will on them because they will be stupid ON PURPOSE just to see if you do it. If you discipline them, their pussies will get wet for you, if you don't they will still like you, but their pussies don't get wet and women follow their pussies just like men follow their dicks in the end
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being an asshole to women works.
i have no energy to talk to women period from the drugs, and ive gotten mad pussy because of it. They think Im being an asshole but Im not..Im too lethargic to start a conversation with them and they think Im not interested or something. Fuck I love steroids
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umm what's a condom ? :D
lol! you beat me to it...
damn plastic bags, you feel nothing! ;D
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being an asshole to women works.
i have no energy to talk to women period from the drugs, and ive gotten mad pussy because of it. They think Im being an asshole but Im not..Im too lethargic to start a conversation with them and they think Im not interested or something. Fuck I love steroids
lol!
bro i do not know your age, but know in my 30´s i am really lazy when it comes to woman.
this week i blew off a girl, she was gorgeous! dark you know, morena the way i like em...
thick ass, nice tits, cute face.... but the moment she started talking... man :-X
and she kept calling and calling afterwards, when i did not answer, texted me why i did not answer the phone, bla bla bla........ duh..... because i did not feel like talking at the moment...
yesterday hung up the phone in her face, and guess what.... still she keeps calling... lolol! ;D ;D
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being an asshole to women works.
i have no energy to talk to women period from the drugs, and ive gotten mad pussy because of it. They think Im being an asshole but Im not..Im too lethargic to start a conversation with them and they think Im not interested or something. Fuck I love steroids
no trenbolona ace?
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pellius new guru :D
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good postings guys, especially pellius - the man...its all true, very good postings indeed...
So being an asshole is the only way,u say... tren will take care of that by itself i think :D
No, no, no! Not being an asshole. Just don't be a puppy dog. Don't be a chump. Don't be buying them shit and running errands for them. Men pick, women choose. Don't chase and try to get someone to like you. Like you're trying to break their will. Only Blacks get away with that. But that's because they don't give a crap if a women tells them to fuck off. They're just taught from a very early age to be aggressive with women. That's not you. If a woman likes you you'll know. If she's playing games like the one you mentioned then move on. But like I said, don't read more into something then it is. Just because she looks at you doesn't mean she wants you. Don't start getting feelings for someone you don't even know. You're falling for someone you imagine and want her to be. And chances are she's not even close.
But, like my womanizing mentor told me, if the choice is being an asshole or Mr. Nice Guy, always err on the side of asshole.
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you guys are not really giving good advice here
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pellius new guru :D
Nah, I was never the "playa" type. Still a one woman man (who occasionally strays).
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you guys are not really giving good advice here
ok apply what's "good" advice please elaborate .....
over the years, what pellius has said is the truth TO THE T
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I have said all I have to say about women already, but to tell someone to act x instead of y is to tell them to be a liar, women smell lies and then they start to lie to and before you know it you're in a relationship based on a lie and you have anxiety attacks because maintaining a false image is hard on the nerves. Do not be a dick on purpose, don't act in anyway that does not feel natural, but if you are the type to never want to make a female feel rejected or let down, what you do is reject them with love, reject them kindly and warmly by keeping them around but not giving them the dick, flirt all you want and tease all you want with the security in the back of your head that you will in the end not be weak and let a princess corrupt your integrity, use sex is a tool to discipline women by not giving into bad girls but rewarding good girls with it. Sex is a tool, it's an avenue to power, that's why women don't like to give it away, to give it away is to not have it anymore, that's why I don't like this player/pick up artist/alpha male sleep with every woman attitude. In the end you lose power not gain it
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I have said all I have to say about women already, but to tell someone to act x instead of y is to tell them to be a liar, women smell lies and then they start to lie to and before you know it you're in a relationship based on a lie and you have anxiety attacks because maintaining a false image is hard on the nerves. Do not be a dick on purpose, don't act in anyway that does not feel natural, but if you are the type to never want to make a female feel rejected or let down, what you do is reject them with love, reject them kindly and warmly by keeping them around but not giving them the dick, flirt all you want and tease all you want with the security in the back of your head that you will in the end not be weak and let a princess corrupt your integrity, use sex is a tool to discipline women by not giving into bad girls but rewarding good girls with it. Sex is a tool, it's an avenue to power, that's why women don't like to give it away, to give it away is to not have it anymore, that's why I don't like this player/pick up artist/alpha male sleep with every woman attitude. In the end you lose power not gain it
this is veyr good posting,, very very good posting
gh15 approved
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pellius new guru :D
if thats new i would hate to see old guru lol
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I have said all I have to say about women already, but to tell someone to act x instead of y is to tell them to be a liar, women smell lies and then they start to lie to and before you know it you're in a relationship based on a lie and you have anxiety attacks because maintaining a false image is hard on the nerves. Do not be a dick on purpose, don't act in anyway that does not feel natural, but if you are the type to never want to make a female feel rejected or let down, what you do is reject them with love, reject them kindly and warmly by keeping them around but not giving them the dick, flirt all you want and tease all you want with the security in the back of your head that you will in the end not be weak and let a princess corrupt your integrity, use sex is a tool to discipline women by not giving into bad girls but rewarding good girls with it. Sex is a tool, it's an avenue to power, that's why women don't like to give it away, to give it away is to not have it anymore, that's why I don't like this player/pick up artist/alpha male sleep with every woman attitude. In the end you lose power not gain it
will 3gr of testo u need to fuck often , between 10 meal , n 10 hours of sleep , better be in a stable relationship,,
you will fuck more ,,, sleep better , be animal in bed after legs day
sexual addiction work well in female availability
gym , roids n girlfriend , it all i need
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will 3gr of testo u need to fuck often , between 10 meal , n 10 hours of sleep , better be in a stable relationship,,
you will fuck more ,,, sleep better , be animal in bed after legs day
sexual addiction work well in female availability
gym , roids n girlfriend , it all i need
amen brother well only you have the wrong order sex then the sleep and the meals lol
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You all over analyzing women, there is no science to come up and talk...
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when u dont cry anymore about a woman not getting on your bike u can tell me I over analyze women mmmk
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I have said all I have to say about women already, but to tell someone to act x instead of y is to tell them to be a liar, women smell lies and then they start to lie to and before you know it you're in a relationship based on a lie and you have anxiety attacks because maintaining a false image is hard on the nerves. Do not be a dick on purpose, don't act in anyway that does not feel natural, but if you are the type to never want to make a female feel rejected or let down, what you do is reject them with love, reject them kindly and warmly by keeping them around but not giving them the dick, flirt all you want and tease all you want with the security in the back of your head that you will in the end not be weak and let a princess corrupt your integrity, use sex is a tool to discipline women by not giving into bad girls but rewarding good girls with it. Sex is a tool, it's an avenue to power, that's why women don't like to give it away, to give it away is to not have it anymore, that's why I don't like this player/pick up artist/alpha male sleep with every woman attitude. In the end you lose power not gain it
I'm disagree with this. You act appropriate to the situation. This ideal of acting how you really are and how you really feel -- "being true to yourself" is one of the many bad ideas that came out of the sixties/seventies cultural revolution. When someone first applies to McDonald's and is asked why he wants to work there should he really say, "Brah, I need a paycheck so I can buy weed, concert tickets and take my girl to the movies. I just need the money. It's just that right now flippin and selling burgers to fatties is all I'm qualified to do now."
One of the things that was different in my generation from today's was that we were raised with the idea that nobody cares about how you "really" are or how you "really" feel. They only cared about how you behaved, how you acted. Hear that? How you "acted"? So they didn't give a crap that I didn't like my aunt's Christmas present of a jig saw puzzle. What kind of 10 year old boy wants a fricken jig saw puzzle of a goddamn manger scene? I wanted a bow and arrow set. But I still had to say "Thank You" and show good manners whether I felt like it or not. You work in customer service nobody cares if you're in a good or bad mood. You plaster that smile on your face and be polite and courteous. A child has to be taught to eat with a fork when his natural instinct is to eat with his hands. A person has to be taught that it's wrong to just take what they want instead of ask permission or work to earn it. When you're trying to cut the best deal or negotiate a salary you got to give and make a certain impression. You don't want your potential employer to know that you've been out of work for over a year and flat broke and will pretty much take anything at this point. If a girl knows that you haven't been laid for a year and that you spend your nights having play dates with a Jessica Alba love doll you're pretty much doomed. If she gets the impression that you have a life and she's not the only player in town you seem more desirable.
Reading this guy's post I get the vibe that if he was true to himself. Acted on his feeling. He would have been buying this skank flowers, telling her how beautiful she is, calling her twice a day, telling her she's the one....
Glorifying nature and what is natural was another bad idea that came out of the sixties cultural revolution. There is nothing inherent sacred about nature or natural. It is amoral. Neither good nor bad. It just is. We spend most of life conquering nature and conquering our natural instinct. Look around you. Everything you have is to make your life easier so you don't live life in the natural Hobbesian state which he describes as "Nasty, brutish and short." You don't rub two stick together to make fire. You flip a switch. You flip on the a/c when the natural weather is too hot. Same applies to over coming your natural instinct. You just don't mount some chick you find hot. You overcome your fears and stand your ground to a bully even though your natural instinct is to feel afraid.
I have the sweetest, cutest, little 7 year old niece in the world. In the whole goddamn world. I just want to spoil that little angel to death. Give her anything she wants. I had to scold and discipline her the other day. It just crush me to see her cry. It made me almost want to cry. But I held my ground kept my mean face. If I want to cry I go home and to my room where no one can see me and cry like a baby if I want. But not in public and not in front of her.
You don't always do what you feel like doing or want to do.
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You don't always do what you feel like doing or want to do.
Your post applies to most realms of life; work, studies, the education you get, the education you give.....but relationships between men and women. Clearly for centuries, relationships between the two were codified and "controlled" for a greater purpose (demographic stability in ages where life was way more fragile then it is today and a sense of social stability, cultural inheritance, etc....). If one thing has really gone toward a certain form of "naturalism", it's men/women relationships. There's no rule of thumb here I'd say. The dynamics of a couple are by nature instable, it can crash any moment for sometimes insignificant things, even in the stronger couples (which are generally not a matter of two personnalitites getting along but two personnalities aiming in the same direction and sharing the same ambitions or lack of ambitions). If there's one person you will always fail to "educate", it's your partner in life.
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Your post applies to most realms of life; work, studies, the education you get, the education you give.....but relationships between men and women. Clearly for centuries, relationships between the two were codified and "controlled" for a greater purpose (demographic stability in ages where life was way more fragile then it is today and a sense of social stability, cultural inheritance, etc....). If one thing has really gone toward a certain form of "naturalism", it's men/women relationships. There's no rule of thumb here I'd say. The dynamics of a couple are by nature instable, it can crash any moment for sometimes insignificant things, even in the stronger couples (which are generally not a matter of two personnalitites getting along but two personnalities aiming in the same direction and sharing the same ambitions or lack of ambitions). If there's one person you will always fail to "educate", it's your partner in life.
Yes, there is always a looming sense of instability. A power struggle if you will. Equilibrium is not the natural state because men and women are so different and look for different things in a relationship. But each side has to hold up their end. A man has to be the head of the household. The final authority. The one who ultimately calls the shots and be strong when sometimes he doesn't really want to. The one thing, though not the only thing, that will always doom a relationship irreparably is when a woman loses respect for her man. Sometimes you have to put on that "mean face" mask.
"There will be time, there will be time
To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet"
-- T.S. Eliot, The Love-Song of J. Alfred Prufrock
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The one thing, though not the only thing, that will always doom a relationship irreparably is when a woman loses respect for her man. Sometimes you have to put on that "mean face" mask.
"There will be time, there will be time
To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet"
-- T.S. Eliot, The Love-Song of J. Alfred Prufrock
I agree but that's he toughest part today specially with young women. The whole western modern "culture" is becoming, and actually more and more boldly, anti-man. Authority and responsability are seen as outdated values. Unfortunately.
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I see many people mention the GH15 Bible...where can I view this, is there such a bible?
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It's in Amazon's best sellers list ::)
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http://www.amazon.com/Steroids-101-Jeff-Summers/dp/0972103902 (http://www.amazon.com/Steroids-101-Jeff-Summers/dp/0972103902)
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It's in the vaticans secret library and was written with jesus' super anabolic man juice. The info was being suppressed so all the priesthood could walk around at 290lb with abs and beat up puny peasants. God didnt like this so came down to deliver his own motherfooking gospel on getbig.
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it's a set of gh15 quotes
they're compiled here http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=356194.0 for example or on gh15 facebook fanpage as of late
sry to spoil your fun guys !
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Thank you...
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DAMN!!!
four answers and no link to the bible??
here you go, this is the full bible:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=12769;sa=showPosts
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anyone see this? ???
http://gh15approved.blogspot.com/
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Lets hope a lot of kids read it so bodybuilding has a secure future! ;D
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soon there will be a book called
The Bible
Secrets of the Pros
by gh15
sold in stores ;D ;D
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Our god's power and influence continues to expand. And to think, we were the first. It all began here.
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soon there will be a book called
The Bible
Secrets of the Pros
by gh15
sold in stores ;D ;D
Maybe even a documentary type movie......coming soon to a theater near you! ;D
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good blog, all copied from my fb page, well its better this way.
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First you say you"rewroten it" on wikipedia, now you say its a good blog
Are you looking for traffic?"
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TRENA EPHEDRINA
REMEMBER REAL BODYBUILD NEVER STOP EPHEDRINA
WE MEGADOSE EPHEDRINA BEFORe SHOW. IT BRINGS OUT MUSCLES. IT MAKEs YOUR FAT BURN ALIVE.
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Didn't click the link but the bible and gh15 is exclusive to get big dot com - people can rip his info and make blogs etc but the genuine stuff is all here on getbig - god chose the thunderdome for a reason , the honesty and truth so this is the only place the true writings will be posted and stored in history for all to read and learn..
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First you say you"rewroten it" on wikipedia, now you say its a good blog
Are you looking for traffic?"
because i didnt read the whole thing i then saw it was jsut copy/paste, i started doing the wiki page project all by myself and ive been rewriting stuff from the bible so it could be easier to read.And ive put on the my user page on wikipedia a few posts that i rewrote.
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Didn't click the link but the bible and gh15 is exclusive to get big dot com - people can rip his info and make blogs etc but the genuine stuff is all here on getbig - god chose the thunderdome for a reason , the honesty and truth so this is the only place the true writings will be posted and stored in history for all to read and learn..
Well make sure that blog links to getbig then.
But honestly trying to sift through gh15 10 trillion posts looking for posts pertaining to bible is a challenge.
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Maybe even a documentary type movie......coming soon to a theater near you! ;D
It's already talked about having a movie about all the clowns we have on getbig. It would actually very entertaing. The secret hidden lives of getbiggers.
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No comprende.....
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I bet if such a gh15 movie did come out all kinds of assholes would go to the theater to watch it. Even the non bodybuilding public it would shock to say the least
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Didn't click the link but the bible and gh15 is exclusive to get big dot com - people can rip his info and make blogs etc but the genuine stuff is all here on getbig - god chose the thunderdome for a reason , the honesty and truth so this is the only place the true writings will be posted and stored in history for all to read and learn..
actuallly the blogspot is pretty cool. i normally dont approve of nongetbig postings but the blog catalogs his postings in a organized way
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this is good stuff. It is missing A LOT though
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ok this is importent,, i want my pupils,,the actual pupils around the world to write their own THEIR OWN evaluation of an hgh product,,
now i will put here number of hgh to begin with ,, what you need to do is simple,,
a ,, do not write anything about other gh aside from the ones who mentioned in this posting
b,, be true ,, only SPEAK if you yourself tried it and been on it ,,
c,, if you work for a supplier i ask you to not comment,, i know them well ,, and even if you are on gimick here i still know and will guide my pupils against your evalutation
just be honest,, this is all that is asked,,
i do this because i want to hear my pupils PERONAL opinion about diff gh
next posting wll be the gh brands i want my pupils and fellas around the world to comment ,, DO NOT MENTION ANY OTHER GH! aside from the ones who will be writen under this posting
gh15 approved
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the gh i want you to say your opinions about are
THANKTROPIN
HYGETROPIN
NOVOTROPIN
RIPTROPIN
ND BLUES
this is it for the begginign ,, i will add few more in a day or 2 ,, right now these ae the gh i want to hear YOUR PERSONAL opinnion about,, be honest rate them! for the thunderdome to see ,, you dont have to compare them to eachother,, talk about what YOU TRIED AND HOW IT WAS!,, be h o n e s t
gh15 approved
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Of the GH listed I've only tried Thanktropin and I'd rate it 10 out of 10, made me look wider and more full while keeping the sculpted look. I noticed that my quads just wrapped around the knee bone tight and lean, this is the sculpted look that is talked about, also I ate anything I wanted and I mean anything and never gained any fat, just some water but not much, fools at the gym keep asking me if I'm prepping for a contest.
Thanks = awesome ;D
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omnitrope tube wow
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With so many different steroids and things to take, how do you choose which to take and how much? Its not like you are basing any of this off of scientific studies as few exist.
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ND Blue's and Novotropins are basically on par with each other.
On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the highest quality, I rate these about a 7-8. Not because it is low grade gh, but only because there is better gh out there. Solid hgh at a very good price. Will definitely get the job done.
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With so many different steroids and things to take, how do you choose which to take and how much? Its not like you are basing any of this off of scientific studies as few exist.
use them all, decide which works best, then just use as much as your willing/can affford of that. simple.
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With so many different steroids and things to take, how do you choose which to take and how much? Its not like you are basing any of this off of scientific studies as few exist.
more is better , simple n true , once u adapt u take more , til budget decide what can
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norditropin simplex 10/10
genotoropin mini quick 10/10
serono serostim 10/10
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Die now.
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Hygetropin were the first ones I ever used before moving on to the ND Blues, Thanktropin and a few other ones.
The Hygetropin were great but I did notice a significant amount of water retention and edema from them. I didn't mind it honestly though because I noticed my body started to take on much more of a 3d look to it where as before I always would hear that I needed to work on my "thickness" and density. The cramping in my hands became pretty bad as well. The longer I used these 3 brands though the less of those nasty sides like edema in my ankles I would get.
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norditropin simplex 10/10
genotoropin mini quick 10/10
serono serostim 10/10
Agreed
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What a bunch of morons.
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What a bunch of morons.
lol this coming from the retard that needs a gimmick for an internet forum...
go figure ::)
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What a bunch of morons.
poor you must have used pink top kigtropin ::)
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Are you an "elf"? Do you wear green tights? Jackass
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What a bunch of morons.
Fuck off
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poor you must have used pink top kigtropin ::)
Homo lex reeves uses rainbow top homotropin, injected anally
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specially brewed with the magic solution from the toilet bowl
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Riptropin - first gh i that i tried, i did anything from 2iu - 10iu,
it did anything that legit gh should (you write it over and over in your posts) i could eat excessive amount of calories whether it was 'dirty' or clean and wouldn't get fat, but the water retention was awful (as in edema, bloat, non existent ankles at some point), but as long as you keep sodium in check you will be fine.
8/10
Thanktropin - while i still have some kits of rips in the fridge i rather use Thanks simply because it does anything that legit gh does without the water retention part (or at least with minimum amount)
10/10
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Imagine these clowns listening to a word the fraud gh00 has to say? Is the "mr olympia top six" on his secret Batphone with the CIA tonight?
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I have used ND Blues and currently running Hyges. Both are good to go, Hyges feel stronger.
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Riptropin - first gh i that i tried, i did anything from 2iu - 10iu,
it did anything that legit gh should (you write it over and over in your posts) i could eat excessive amount of calories whether it was 'dirty' or clean and wouldn't get fat, but the water retention was awful (as in edema, bloat, non existent ankles at some point), but as long as you keep sodium in check you will be fine.
8/10
Thanktropin - while i still have some kits of rips in the fridge i rather use Thanks simply because it does anything that legit gh does without the water retention part (or at least with minimum amount)
10/10
this is good profesional hands on review i like it
gh15 approved
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norditropin simplex 10/10
genotoropin mini quick 10/10
serono serostim 10/10
didnt ask about those,, those will be later on ,, i first started with specific brands
gh15 approved
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It needs to be repeated: there are half a dozen or so dipshits who think gh00 is even a bodybuilder. The rest of the world views him as a fraud and an asshole.
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It needs to be repeated: there are half a dozen or so dipshits who think gh00 is even a bodybuilder. The rest of the world views him as a fraud and an asshole.
i hav eso many followers i cant even reply to pms that how much followes i have,, just ask ron avidan to let you see my pms ,, it is FLOODED,, this is with out mentioning the stupid buffdady4you email i did here 6 years ago and i keep getting 10s of pms from all around the world there EVERY SINGLE WEEK! TO THAT DAMN EMAIL WHICH I SAID I DONT USE IT WAS A MADE UP FAKE EMAIL TO OPEN ACCOUNT ON GETBIG,,
fraud.... ::)
gh15 approved
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Post a picture of your pro-card with your name covered, big shot. Your claims of pm's fail to impress.
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Post a picture of your pro-card with your name covered, big shot. Your claims of pm's fail to impress.
you claims of brain fail to impres too,, we all fail in something
gh15 approved
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riptropin seemed ok, it's only one of two that I've tried. Problem is I ran it only at 3 iu's, not long enough either, then screwed up later by throwing my money on peptides and doing the 1iu, 15mins after the peptides routine, twice a day, therefore only running 2 iu's. However, at first, I did feel the ache in the delts, felt as if they were wanting to expand, very minor hand numbness. This is my contribution, should be disregarded lol.
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My bed time snack has the best gh available as part of it ;D
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Imagine these clowns listening to a word the fraud gh00 has to say? Is the "mr olympia top six" on his secret Batphone with the CIA tonight?
Laughed out loud at this one and choked on my fucking first cup of coffee......thanks !! LOL ;D
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Post a picture of your pro-card with your name covered, big shot. Your claims of pm's fail to impress.
go back to bb.com asshole
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Thanktropin, great!! Crazy how u HAVE to eat or you lose too much weight, great stuff, highly highly recommended
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It needs to be repeated: there are half a dozen or so dipshits who think gh00 is even a bodybuilder. The rest of the world views him as a fraud and an asshole.
YES I AM ONE OF THOSE HALF A DOZEN WHO BELIEVES GH15 IS A PRO BODYBUILDER. IF YOU ARE FROM THE REST THOUSANDS, WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE DOING HERE??STARVING FOR SOME ATTENTION OR GET A GOOD FUCK HOMO???
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the only people who shhould really reply are people who have tried at least 4 kinds of HGH. if you have just tried one kind and got some results of course you are going to say it was the bomb.
Eli Lilly-humatrope
serostim
now this is where it gets tricky anybody who is just a amateur is not going to have those top pro connections where they can constantly get usa human grade. so of course you are going to have to use some chinese HGH at some point to get in the right amount of IU's per day
eurotropin-if you have the cash. it cost as much as humatrope
thanktropin-if you get a good batch.
all the rest are hit and miss-IMO kind of a crapshoot with blue tops. I have not tried novotropin. I can only get one USA grade serostim kit once a month so I do have to use chinese sometimes but sometimes I just use 4 IU's and the serostim will last all month. I think the old jintropin was better than these new chinese HGH generics. but only if it was truly REAL jintropin as it was knocked off alot. from fake rolex's to fake loius vouiton bags to fake chanel bags to fake gucci bags and watches to fake jordans china is the leader of counterfeiting. so you really have to know your source.
talk to some pros and get there advice. guys like homer simpson and nordic the giant are really the main guys to trust. but their are others who are close to them in terms of getting you something real. but those 2 are the ones who have been doing it the longest so if you get chinese id go their way. I am not a rep of either just have been around for a long time and these guys have never gone anywhere.I know gh15 if he really is nasser used to have a hookup for serostim kits not sure he still does. so I am not sure why he uses chinese.
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I've tried six or seven brands but inky thanktropin from that list and other than the real pfizer gh it was the best by far of all I've tried
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There should be GH Joe dolls....
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Any insights on
1) Keifei
2) Jintropin
3) Getropin ?
Thanks!
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Any insights on
1) Keifei
2) Jintropin
3) Getropin ?
Thanks!
authentic jintropin is bomb but they do not make it anymore.
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authentic jintropin is bomb but they do not make it anymore.
It is still made, it is available under prescription in Hong Kong and is licensed for hospital use in China, anything floatng on the black market is suspect though
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It is still made, it is available under prescription in Hong Kong and is licensed for hospital use in China, anything floatng on the black market is suspect though
Exactly it would be to much of a gamble ordering jintropin at this point but at one time there was legit jintropin everywhere and it was the bomb-IMO. better than any of these other chinese generics. real jintropin was not cheap. if you were paying less than 300$ a kit it was likely fake. I am telling you guys the chinese are the best counterfeiters in the world you have to get it tested or take a shot at night and get bloodwork done in the morning. first get bloodwork done when you are not using HGH and then get bloodwork done when you are on HGH. but like I said best way to do it is take the shot at night and go in early and get the bloodwork done. this will let you know if you are messing with real HGH. its all about lab tests and bloodwork not peoples word of mouth.
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once again these useless mods merged the threads .. amazing........
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you claims of brain fail to impres too,, we all fail in something
gh15 approved
Why do you sidestep the question about posting a scan of your pro-card?
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I have been using Ripstropin for close to 6 months now. Started at 5iu ED and now on 10iu 4x per week. I haven't used any other GH before but I love how I can eat whatever I want and however much I want and not get fat. I'll retain water for sure, and my wrists were in immense pain about 3 months in and still are now (maybe not as horrible as before), but overall I am loving everything it has done for me. It has really turned me into a beast. Everyone is like "holy fuck" when they see me these days compared to what I used to look like.
9/10
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I have been using Ripstropin for close to 6 months now. Started at 5iu ED and now on 10iu 4x per week. I haven't used any other GH before but I love how I can eat whatever I want and however much I want and not get fat. I'll retain water for sure, and my wrists were in immense pain about 3 months in and still are now (maybe not as horrible as before), but overall I am loving everything it has done for me. It has really turned me into a beast. Everyone is like "holy fuck" when they see me these days compared to what I used to look like.
9/10
how do you know it's not the steroids your on that turned you into a beast? ???
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how do you know it's not the steroids your on that turned you into a beast? ???
You're right. I can only assume. I was on AAS before HGH though and I am now a lean 227lbs (holding some water though) and before HGH, I was a lean 200lbs. Sure I cycled tren and superdrol in the meantime but I look better and bigger. I definitely think the HGH did it, especially from reading the bible
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the only people who shhould really reply are people who have tried at least 4 kinds of HGH. if you have just tried one kind and got some results of course you are going to say it was the bomb.
I'll be the first to admit my review of ripstropin falls under that category. I have nothing else to compare it to
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For the Canadian bodybuilders out there......any feedback on the popular generics. here..Norvotropin...and Primatropin?
Thanks...
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For the Canadian bodybuilders out there......any feedback on the popular generics. here..Norvotropin...and Primatropin?
Thanks...
go for 3-4 months then get better, or you remain same
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For the Canadian bodybuilders out there......any feedback on the popular generics. here..Norvotropin...and Primatropin?
Thanks...
overpriced relabeled Chinese generic.
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what do you do if you are mid to high teens fat percent,,, have the bloofy testosterona look,,,diet is clean already and cardio just takes off whatever muscle there is?
still follow trenbolona with hgh priming in blood?
or is that only for low teens without the bloofyness already?
thanks for any help
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Low teens is still bloofy look. If your really high teens drop test completely. And if your not shredded from gh and tren you have bunk gear..... Also low intensity cardio burns fat....Do it on empty stomach
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Low teens is still bloofy look. If your really high teens drop test completely. And if your not shredded from gh and tren you have bunk gear..... Also low intensity cardio burns fat....Do it on empty stomach
thanks.... only testosterona was in blood and guru trainer kept increasing testosterona dose so just got bloofy and no body fat loss
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thanks.... only testosterona was in blood and guru trainer kept increasing testosterona dose so just got bloofy and no body fat loss
Yeah so drop test and if anything up the gh for now.... After 2 months drop gh and up the tren or keep it the same. When feel ready or need test thickness and stamina use propionate.... Read the bible phases pupil grinch
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Used rips coming up to my first show at 5iu, nothing major from them side effect wise. Would wake up with pins and needles in my hands. Jumped to 10iu split twice a day and had really bad pains in my fingers which went after a couple of weeks, all in all they seemed 100%. The new patch are meant to be 4mg per vial
I'd like to know more about the new genotropin Aqx, comes pre mixed in 30iu cartridges but its pricey at £50 for 30 iu although gets cheaper the more you buy