The Bible Index - GH15 - teaching about hormones

[StanZoLOL]

yeah, Australia I think. Here's the full thread, quite the epic.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/53353-so-sick-heres-truth.html

[AlphaMaleDawg]

PMs people, PMs! So sick of everyone asking "GH15 this, GH15 that?" Whats clen cycling have to do with the thread newn?

fuck that. why make questions private when everyone is interested in the answers?

people should be banned from PMing gh15. All questions should be out in the open so we all benefit

[The_Iron_Disciple]

fuck that. why make questions private when everyone is interested in the answers?

people should be banned from PMing gh15. All questions should be out in the open so we all benefit

I'm not interested. So PM him and shut the fuck up. Random questions to GH15 derail / interupt the thread anyways.

[Overload]

Good stuff.

I personally know guys who use 5-6g's of combined AAS 9 months out of the year and that isn't considered a big deal to them.

Like the post said, most of the guys who downplay the size of cycles usually have an agenda. Like some of these jackoffs claiming they use 750mg of test and whatnot.

It's all drugs and anyone with any experience around real top level bodybuilders knows this.  Why do you think so many of them are always broke doing G4P and driving shitty cars? Just use some simple logic and you can see the truth.

Pro BBing = all drugs.

A person using 1g of test will gain more muscle WITHOUT lifting weights than a natural who trains his ass off with a perfect diet.

Get with the fucking program.

[El Diablo Blanco]

GH15, why continue contradicting yourself?  In your bible you say NO ANTI-E, yet you post this where the guy states you need anti-e to stay on year around.


Explain the role of anti-e and when you need them and don't.

[lucian]

BigA wrote that. He owns Synthetek and thats how he knows ho may pros use the syntherol!

[oliolioli]

When people exclaim at how beautiful a woman is, she doesn't pull out her laundry list of fake eyelashes, and long nails, and rhinoplasty, and fake tits, and tons of makeup, and botox injections, and whatnot.  She just smiles and loves the attention.

Bodybuilders are the same.  Admitting you take grams and grams of anabolics takes the fun out of it.  There is no agenda.

[apply85]

When people exclaim at how beautiful a woman is, she doesn't pull out her laundry list of fake eyelashes, and long nails, and rhinoplasty, and fake tits, and tons of makeup, and botox injections, and whatnot.  She just smiles and loves the attention.

Bodybuilders are the same.  Admitting you take grams and grams of anabolics takes the fun out of it.  There is no agenda.

I don't think you realize who some of the people are or how many people aim to make money through what goes on on internet forums

[no one]

Good stuff.

I personally know guys who use 5-6g's of combined AAS 9 months out of the year and that isn't considered a big deal to them.

Like the post said, most of the guys who downplay the size of cycles usually have an agenda. Like some of these jackoffs claiming they use 750mg of test and whatnot.

It's all drugs and anyone with any experience around real top level bodybuilders knows this.  Why do you think so many of them are always broke doing G4P and driving shitty cars? Just use some simple logic and you can see the truth.

Pro BBing = all drugs.

A person using 1g of test will gain more muscle WITHOUT lifting weights than a natural who trains his ass off with a perfect diet.

Get with the fucking program.

QFT

[local hero]

yeh i read that a while ago, most of what big A says is more or less word for word for the bible index

[apply85]

yeh i read that a while ago, most of what big A says is more or less word for word for the bible index

Don't believe everything he writes, he is in bed with hernon. http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/peptides-growth-factors/77163-why-real-follistatin-costs-4680k-look-inside-civil-debate-only-per-big.html

[tbombz]

fine we get it. But something needs to be said about hard work. if A bber takes 2 g of test a week trains like an animal and his nutrition, rest ect. is on point and B takes 3 grams but is lazy then A will be bigger, better (IF BOTH HAVE GOOD GENETICS FOR BBING)

of course drugs play a huge role. the higher up you go the more drugs..we get it! but hard work makes a huge difference

nah

sure you cant be a little bitch in the gym fucking around with 15lb dumbells.

but theres no need to "train like an animal". in fact it can even be counter productive to do so.

look at the best bodybuilders. flex wheeler. chris cormier. paul dillet. phil heath. victor martinez. dexter jackson. etc etc etc. all these guys train like lazy asses. never to failure. just enough weight to stress the muscle. mostly squeezing and flexing the muscle.

[L.L]

that was BIG A  from ProfessionalMuscle.com.. another straight up shooter - no bullshit kinda guy.

[apply85]

he is a straight shooter when there is no $$$ to be made

[notsureifsrs]

GH15, why continue contradicting yourself?  In your bible you say NO ANTI-E, yet you post this where the guy states you need anti-e to stay on year around.


Explain the role of anti-e and when you need them and don't.

Remind me what is Masteron exactly?
and he wrote that it needed in some cases, but rather not to mess with that if not needed.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Remind me what is Masteron exactly?
and he wrote that it needed in some cases, but rather not to mess with that if not needed.

This article is not talking about Masteron.  It is refering to Nolva, Clomid, Arim etc...

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Don't believe everything he writes, he is in bed with hernon. http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/peptides-growth-factors/77163-why-real-follistatin-costs-4680k-look-inside-civil-debate-only-per-big.html

Big A allowed that Phil Hernon bashing thread, so you just proved the opposite. That just says Big A is even more honest after reading that

[bigbobs]

GH15, why continue contradicting yourself?  In your bible you say NO ANTI-E, yet you post this where the guy states you need anti-e to stay on year around.


Explain the role of anti-e and when you need them and don't.

I think he said at gym-rat dosages anti-e's aren't really needed.  It's probably different for the pro on several grams of test per week.

BTW are your coworkers still frightened of you and move away from the micro-wave line when they see you in the lunch room out of fear?    Jokes aside the only difference I get in the lunch-room (still kinda annoying) is them looking over at what I'm warming up, making comments like, "does that fit with your diet?"  "wow you eat lots of protein hey?" etc. lol

[El Diablo Blanco]

I think he said at gym-rat dosages anti-e's aren't really needed.  It's probably different for the pro on several grams of test per week.

BTW are your coworkers still frightened of you and move away from the micro-wave line when they see you in the lunch room out of fear?    Jokes aside the only difference I get in the lunch-room (still kinda annoying) is them looking over at what I'm warming up, making comments like, "does that fit with your diet?"  "wow you eat lots of protein hey?" etc. lol

Most people comment on why I'm warming up some food at 10 am or 2 pm because it's not lunch yet or lunch was just two hours ago.  Never mind that I don't eat "lunch" when people eat their lunches.

One bitch can't seem to mind her business and I'll catch her bending over and looking into the microwave to see what I'm heating up.  The temptation to slap her ass is there but not worth getting fired over.

[El Diablo Blanco]

I think he said at gym-rat dosages anti-e's aren't really needed.  It's probably different for the pro on several grams of test per week.

BTW are your coworkers still frightened of you and move away from the micro-wave line when they see you in the lunch room out of fear?    Jokes aside the only difference I get in the lunch-room (still kinda annoying) is them looking over at what I'm warming up, making comments like, "does that fit with your diet?"  "wow you eat lots of protein hey?" etc. lol

By the way.  Excellent point about the anit-e and the gymrat thing.  I've never thought of it, but every steroid user that swears by these are also the guys that are taking in grams and grams of shit a week.  But a dude taking 500-750 mg a week of test and maybe 100 g tren eod won't need it as much.

All of these anecdotal stories come from the heaviest of user.

[apply85]

Big A allowed that Phil Hernon bashing thread, so you just proved the opposite. That just says Big A is even more honest after reading that

I didn't even need to link any fucking thread, he is a mod on pm, what else you need

[the trainer]

i was ask many time what is most importnt posting in history of bodybuild boardings on the internet era,, i was asked to quote bible most important quote etc,, but! the most important posting in history of bodybuild is the one yuo are about to read here,,

this is by FAR the most important posting in history of bodybuild,, it COMES from a profesional that take HUGE risk for doing so for he did it on hsi name,,

the fella who wrote the following post need to be remembered as ONE OF THE MOST truth saying profesional that came under his name... in the cult and! he is alive,, he is not passed on or dead or talking from grave dueto sickness,, this is the closet thign you will hear to the truth ,, it is EXACTLY the truth and he shoudl be comended for this!

always remember the ones who seeked and shared the truth! this fella is one of them


this is brought to me by elf frmo profesional muscle forum,, thisis quote of the posting,,

So sick of this - HERE'S THE TRUTH!

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This site was always set up as an advanced site, where you can find TRUTHFUL information about bodybuilding, not bulshit and ideology promoted by people who generally have agendas.

This is the truth:

If your diet, training, health and rest are completely up to scratch, the more steroids you take, the bigger you will get. It's as simple as that.

Pros have got their diet, training (health for the most part) and rest up to a standard that works for them perfectly, but they are only the size they are due to the drugs they take. Don't beleive the crap from anyone, that they are not, even from the 'in the know' people that are on this board. Those very same people for the most part have used/use extremely higher dosages than what they preach. Why do they preach the low dosages? - various personal agendas.

Reality is that as a rule, 1g per week of test non stop year round is the 'off' time for the pros. Gear is added as it's obtained - no real detailed cycles as such. As long as they take the high dosages of gear, they'll grow (as long as the diet, training, health and sleep is up to scratch as mentioned previously).

Several grams of test per week, several grams of anabolics per week, up to 2g/week of tren, a shit load of orals, insulin several times a day year round, GH as much as can be afforded - 15 to 30IU/day, etc.

BUT, pros have the genetics to have their bodies accept the gear, and generally not get sick on it.

And ancilliary use is huge - liver aids to the max, anti-e's, dht blockers, cardio supps, cholesterol supps, etc.

Still, most of them are complete wrecks. They can't control bodily functions,
they pass out from walking a flight of stairs, they get drenched in sweat from tying their shoelaces. Gyno, baldness, dry skin, gout, excess bodily hair, acne, etc are ALL existant in virtually all of them.

It is not a healthy sport, drug use is ENORMOUS, but to ignore it and to preach otherwise is pathetic and not what this site is about.

BTW, Synthetek's books have on them who's who of current pros ordering Syntherol constantly. They ALL use it extensively. It is pathetic though, when one orders a bottle and their credit card gets declined due to not enough funds. You think a 30+ yo would have his life in order more than that.

Anyway, I'm sick of seeing the bullshit that has been promoted on this site the last few years. This site was originally set up as an uncensored place where you can find the truth about advanced performance enhancing, regardless of consequences. It's getting back to that.


bible index!
gh15 approved
 
 

 screw you you wash up bodybuilder, your only joy in life is to talk shit about pros, you remind me of a dog who saw another dog and said hey you are a dog, and the dog replied yea i know but so are you.

[tlc]

This article is not talking about Masteron.  It is refering to Nolva, Clomid, Arim etc...

I think he meant that masteron is all the enti-e a mere mortal is ever likely to need, according to gh15. Things may be different on 5g+ a week...

[tlc]

screw you you wash up bodybuilder, your only joy in life is to talk shit about pros, you remind me of a dog who saw another dog and said hey you are a dog, and the dog replied yea i know but so are you.

What fucking gibberish is this?

[the trainer]

What fucking gibberish is this?

 if you do not have the basic common sense to understand the meaning behind the dog statement then you are beyond help.