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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/us/politics/obamas-support-among-blacks-remains-strong.html?pagewanted=1
f'ng morons. What a bunch of fools quoted in this article.
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Even more noteworthy, less than 10 percent of black voters in a New York Times/CBS News survey taken last month said that Mr. Obama had failed to meet their expectations as president, while nearly 3 in 10 said he had exceeded expectations. Among nonblack voters, 4 in 10 said he performed worse than expected, while only 5 percent said he had done better.
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Herd mentality.
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333 - do you have point or is this just part of your daily dump of anything that catches your eye and fuels your generic rage?
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“We already know what the Republican Party is offering,” said Mr. Bennett, 57, the former Cooper Industries employee, a plant supervisor before he lost his job. “And we don’t want that.”
Mr. Hart said, “Look at the choice we got with those Republicans.”
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LOL.
You can't fix stupid.
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Sitting in a chair at the Ultimate Choice Barber Shop in Charlotte, Brian Gainey, 28, a truck driver, initially hesitated when asked if he was going to vote again for Mr. Obama.
“Yes,” he said finally, adding: “I’d almost like to see someone else win though. Maybe then they’ll see how much better Obama was than whoever will come after him.”
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LMFAO!
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To Lemar Foster Jr., 48, a barber at Ultimate Choice, the Obama family epitomizes a bigger cultural change. “It’s like we got the Cosbys in the White House,” said Mr. Foster, referring to the fictional affluent black family headed by Bill Cosby in the 1980s television show. “I grew up with ‘Sanford and Son’ ” — a show rife with demeaning stereotypes.
“So having the Obamas in the White House?” he asked. “Yeah, I’m very proud. And I’m definitely voting for him again.”
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Another deluded moron.
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“We already know what the Republican Party is offering,” said Mr. Bennett, 57, the former Cooper Industries employee, a plant supervisor before he lost his job. “And we don’t want that.”
Mr. Hart said, “Look at the choice we got with those Republicans.”
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LOL.
You can't fix stupid.
that's a perfectly reasonable quote
Unless your're in the top 5% there is nothing that any of the Repubs are offering that's of value to anyone, regardless of the color of their skin
why would ANYONE vote for Romney
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LOL. The moron lost his job under obama admn , and is going to vote for more of this economic insanity?
Blacks by and large are fucking idiots when it comes to politics. Like a herd of fools.
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LOL. The moron lost his job under obama admn , and is going to vote for more of this economic insanity?
Blacks by and large are fucking idiots when it comes to politics. Like a herd of fools.
bfd - I had a right wing neighbor who was unemployed during almost the entire Bush administration and still voted Republican across the board.
Again, why should ANYONE vote for Romney.
What is he offering that would make someone want to vote for him ?
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bfd - I had a right wing neighbor who was unemployed during almost the entire Bush administration and still voted Republican across the board.
Again, why should ANYONE vote for Romney.
What is he offering that would make someone want to vote for him ?
If romney is even 15% better than Obama, which given the horrendous policies of obamawould be easy to do, anyone, including romney should be given a shot over the disaster we have now.
Blacks DESERVE every miserable thing coming their way if they vote 95% for obama since they are the ones hurt the worst by his crazy policies.
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If romney is even 15% better than Obama, which given the horrendous policies of obamawould be easy to do, anyone, including romney should be given a shot over the disaster we have now.
Blacks DESERVE every miserable thing coming their way if they vote 95% for obama since they are the ones hurt the worst by his crazy policies.
this is a meaningless statement
can't you provide some specific reasons why anyone would choose Romney
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this is a meaningless statement
can't you provide some specific reasons why anyone would choose Romney
Because Obama is a fucking DISASTER!
Obama = 100% of getting fucked and twilight zone policies
Romney = 50 - 50%
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Those quotes are not nearly as priceless as the drivel you pump out on the board day by day, hour by hour.
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Those quotes are not nearly as priceless as the drivel you pump out on the board day by day, hour by hour.
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Because Obama is a fucking DISASTER!
Obama = 100% of getting fucked and twilight zone policies
Romney = 50 - 50%
Why can't you give one specific reason about what romney will do for me or anyone?
Whh is that so hard to understand?
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Why can't you give one specific reason about what romney will do for me or anyone?
Whh is that so hard to understand?
See I am not looking for any politician to do anything for me - i want them to leave me the fuck alone.
Unlike you who wants a massive socialist nanny state in every ounce of everyones' life, some of us want to vote on the basis of the person who will leave us alone more than the other.
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See I am not looking for any politician to do anything for me - i want them to leave me the fuck alone.
Unlike you who wants a massive socialist nanny state in every ounce of everyones' life, some of us want to vote on the basis of the person who will leave us alone more than the other.
Nonsense
You want the government to cut regulation, services,angencies etc....because you perceive you will benefit even if is at the expense of everyone else
Now why don't you tell us one thing romney is going to do that would make me want to vote for him
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Nonsense
You want the government to cut regulation, services,angencies etc....because you perceive you will benefit even if is at the expense of everyone else
Now why don't you tell us one thing romney is going to do that would make me want to vote for him
For you? Nothing! Bro - you are a full blown socialist big nanny state nut, of course romney offers you nothing. You want credle to grave welfarism and socialism just like all the morons in the Schiff video and the fools who vote for obama.
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For you? Nothing! Bro - you are a full blown socialist big nanny state nut, of course romney offers
you nothing. You want credle to grave welfarism and socialism just like all the morons in the Schiff video and the fools who vote for obama
Stop projecting your delusions on me.
I've been self employed for 20 years and have never even collected unemployment ar anything like that but I have no problem if some of my fellow citizens need that kind of help.
Now how about one reason why I should vote for Romney (and your personal hatred of Obama is not a reason)
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Stop projecting your delusions on me.
I've been self employed for 20 years and have never even collected unemployment ar anything like that but I have no problem if some of my fellow citizens need that kind of help.
Now how about one reason why I should vote for Romney (and your personal hatred of Obama is not a reason)
For you? There is not one reason to vote for Romney. Bro - you are part of the guilt ridden far left progressive wing of the Democrat slave plantation, you would vote for obama if he promised to pour rat poison down your throat.
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For you? There is not one reason to vote for Romney. Bro - you are part of the guilt ridden far left progressive wing of the Democrat slave plantation, you would vote for obama if he promised to pour rat poison down your throat.
Your delusion and prejudice aside, how about one reason for the average person or how about for the people that are the subject of your thread
How many times have I asked for this now?
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Stop projecting your delusions on me.
I've been self employed for 20 years and have never even collected unemployment ar anything like that but I have no problem if some of my fellow citizens need that kind of help.
Now how about one reason why I should vote for Romney (and your personal hatred of Obama is not a reason)
This is where the line is blurred, those that need help and those that refuse to help themselves. The responsibilities of the federal government do not entail tax payer funded hand outs. If you can find it in the constitution, I will concede. The whole premise of what Obama is doing, is trying to buy votes with tax payer money. Forgive this forgive that debt, it has nothing to do with helping people. The results of all these "programs" have proven to be nothing more than empty promises for the gullible. And the POTUS is at it again, he doesn't give a shit about job creation until the election is looming.
"Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country" JFK - perhaps a little more of this and we can get out of this mess, not the generation of spoiled brats with their hands out.
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Your delusion and prejudice aside, how about one reason for the average person or how about for the people that are the subject of your thread
How many times have I asked for this now?
Maybe because 9% UE sucks and obamas' reckless policies are exacerbating the problem?
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Your delusion and prejudice aside, how about one reason for the average person or how about for the people that are the subject of your thread
How many times have I asked for this now?
9% UE really sucks for a lot of people.
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This is where the line is blurred, those that need help and those that refuse to help themselves. The responsibilities of the federal government do not entail tax payer funded hand outs. If you can find it in the constitution, I will concede. The whole premise of what Obama is doing, is trying to buy votes with tax payer money. Forgive this forgive that debt, it has nothing to do with helping people. The results of all these "programs" have proven to be nothing more than empty promises for the gullible. And the POTUS is at it again, he doesn't give a shit about job creation until the election is looming.
"Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country" JFK - perhaps a little more of this and we can get out of this mess, not the generation of spoiled brats with their hands out.
Let's put Obama aside for the moment
Why should I vote for Romney?
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Let's put Obama aside for the moment
Why should I vote for Romney?
I don't really care for Romney, he will be Obama-lite at best. As a matter of fact I think the whole field Dem and Rep sucks ass, I would like to a true leader run for POTUS, but I won't hold my breath waiting. But back to the original intent of this thread. I find it very disturbing that Americans find that what Obama has done has exceeded their expectations.
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Let's put Obama aside for the moment
Why should I vote for Romney?
Its not voting FOR Romney. Its voting AGAINST Obama because he has been horrendous. Got it?
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Its not voting FOR Romney. Its voting AGAINST Obama because he has been horrendous. Got it?
That is what got us Obama in the first place, and I don't see things turning out any better just because the guy has an R instead of a D.
At this point all Obama has done is wake people up to the path of destruction the federal government has put America on
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That is what got us Obama in the first place, and I don't see things turning out any better just because the guy has an R instead of a D.
At this point all Obama has done is wake people up to the path of destruction the federal government has put America on
Here is my math:
Obama = 100% chance of being a disaster in a second term
Anyone else - starts out 50 50 % of doing the right thing.
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Here is my math:
Obama = 100% chance of being a disaster in a second term
Anyone else - starts out 50 50 % of doing the right thing.
Obama has done nothing to deserve a second term, but I am sick of having to take a chance on the lesser of 2 evils and hope for the best.
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Obama has done nothing to deserve a second term, but I am sick of having to take a chance on the lesser of 2 evils and hope for the best.
I'm long over that. ;D ;D
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Its not voting FOR Romney. Its voting AGAINST Obama because he has been horrendous. Got it?
All you've done is restate you're voting for Romney because you hate Obama
I understand voting against a candidate because I voted against McCain/Palin in 2008
That's the same reason I'll vote for Obama this time
Got It ?
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All you've done is restate you're voting for Romney because you hate Obama
I understand voting against a candidate because I voted against McCain/Palin in 2008
That's the same reason I'll vote for Obama this time
Got It ?
No. Obama is an incumbent with a horrible record of failure and disaster. In 2008 - neighter had a record as an executive.
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All you've done is restate you're voting for Romney because you hate Obama
I understand voting against a candidate because I voted against McCain/Palin in 2008
That's the same reason I'll vote for Obama this time
Got It ?
Interesting, what about voting for what is best for the country? Do you really think the current POTUS is good for America?
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to be fair... let's flip it...
what % of Mormons support Barrack Obama?
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to be fair... let's flip it...
what % of Mormons support Barrack Obama?
WTF? So you are going to equate a religion with skin color?
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WTF? So you are going to equate a religion with skin color?
He is trying to spin, deflect, and divert away from the fact that the phrase I have used for the last year for blacks is laregly accurate.
95% ers!
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yes. groups vote for pp llike that.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/us/politics/obamas-support-among-blacks-remains-strong.html?pagewanted=1
f'ng morons. What a bunch of fools quoted in this article.
Considering that you have folks like Perry with a vacation home named N I G G E R H E A D. Why would it be otherwise
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Considering that you have folks like Perry with a vacation home named N I G G E R H E A D. Why would it be otherwise
We have a president who called whites bitter clingers, "typical white people", went to a racist church for 20 years, hung around w domestic terrorists, etc, yet many whites still voted for Obama.
hhhmmmm?????
Its a disgrace how blacks are in such lockstep and act like culled herd of mindless sheep and lemmings.
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Interesting, what about voting for what is best for the country? Do you really think the current POTUS is good for America?
My vote in 2008 was what I thought was best for the country
My vote in 2012 will be the same
I don't see any ideas offered by Republicans that I think would be best for the country
Repubs have had control of the House since the beginning of the year and I haven't seen them offer ANY legislation that address any of the problems we're dealing with (and will continue to deal with for years)
Go look at what they've done and it's basically nothing but abortion legislation and not much else.
There is nothing to help stimulate jobs, work on infrastructure, stimulate lending, address the problem in our RE markets, etc.. and if it were up to Repubs they would have done nothing on healthcare reform either
I haven't heard anything from any of the Repub candidates on these issues either
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No. Obama is an incumbent with a horrible record of failure and disaster. In 2008 - neighter had a record as an executive.
Obama's record as not nearly as bad as you see it
you're a far right radical so anything that is not far right radical looks like a horrible failure to you
If nothing else you should at least be able to understand and admit that your world view and political views are not shared with the majority of the people. There's nothing wrong with having different views but the problem is that you're too delusional to understand that YOUR views are not EVERYONE's views.
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My vote in 2008 was what I thought was best for the country
My vote in 2012 will be the same
I don't see any ideas offered by Republicans that I think would be best for the country
Repubs have had control of the House since the beginning of the year and I haven't seen them offer ANY legislation that address any of the problems we're dealing with (and will continue to deal with for years)
Go look at what they've done and it's basically nothing but abortion legislation and not much else.
There is nothing to help stimulate jobs, work on infrastructure, stimulate lending, address the problem in our RE markets, etc.. and if it were up to Repubs they would have done nothing on healthcare reform either
I haven't heard anything from any of the Repub candidates on these issues either
LMFAO!!!!!
1. repeal of obamaCare
2. Ryan Budget
3. Cut Cap & Balance
Those three things alone would put us back on a better path than the kamikaze mission obama is on.
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LMFAO!!!!!
1. repeal of obamaCare
2. Ryan Budget
3. Cut Cap & Balance
Those three things alone would put us back on a better path than the kamikaze mission obama is on.
all 3 would make things much worse
especially the Ryan Budget
oh yeah, I guess I should add the LMFAO!!!!! that you seem to include in every post
isn't it about that time when you start spamming this thread with stupid pictures or videos of Shiff?
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all 3 would make things much worse
especially the Ryan Budget
oh yeah, I guess I should add the LMFAO!!!!! that you seem to include in every post
isn't it about that time when you start spamming this thread with stupid pictures or videos of Shiff?
Yeah 1.5 Trillion deficits and blowing the budget every year is real responsible.
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Yeah 1.5 Trillion deficits and blowing the budget every year is real responsible.
yep, Obama got saddled with all the debt and interest on the debt run up by prior administrations
that's how the world works.
he also added the wars into his budget
I know you like to ignore details like this but you can still continue your hatred of Obama either way
If we weren't still climbing out of a hole he could do a slash and burn which would make you happy
If he did the slash and burn now (or had done in 2009) we'd be in MUCH worse shape at the present moment.
You've admitted previously that you understand this but you've said it would be OK with you if things got much much worse but most people in the country would like to see our government make some actual effort to stop things from getting worse (and spare me the lie that the healthcare legislation is making things worse because it's not true and we've discussed it many times already)
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Considering that you have folks like Perry with a vacation home named N I G G E R H E A D. Why would it be otherwise
You know Perry was a democrat when he bought that vacation home, right?
Any other leftists want to step up and expose their racist roots? Robert Byrd would be proud.
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this is a meaningless statement
can't you provide some specific reasons why anyone would choose Romney
Id like to hear your specific reasons for not voting for romney...
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We have a president who called whites bitter clingers, "typical white people", went to a racist church for 20 years, hung around w domestic terrorists, etc, yet many whites still voted for Obama.
hhhmmmm?????
Its a disgrace how blacks are in such lockstep and act like culled herd of mindless sheep and lemmings.
I never heard him call "whites" bitter clingers or typical white people
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Id like to hear your specific reasons for not voting for romney...
he's a flip flopper, a profound corporate shill ("corporations are people my friend") and most importantly I haven't heard him present any viable ideas to address job growth, income disparity, or even foreign policy issues. Maybe it's because he is too busy fighting off attacks from Perry, Cain, Bachmann, etc.. so hopefully he'll present some ideas once he secures the nomination.
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1. The unemployment rate, non-farm, overall increased from 7.6% in Jan. 2009 to 9.4%, in July, 2011 for an increase of 23.7%
2. The unemployment rate for blacks increased from 12.6% in Jan, 2009 to 15.8% in July, 2011 for an increase of 25.4%
3. The number of unemployed increased from 11,616,000 in Jan, 2009 to 14,485,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 24.7%
4. The number of food stamp recipients increased from 31,983,598 in Jan. 2009 to 43,200,878 in July, 2011 for an increase, 35.1%
5. The number of unemployment benefit recipients increased from 7,526,598 in July, 2009 to 9,193,838 in July, 2011 for an increase of 22.2%
6. The number of long-term unemployed increased from 2,600,00 in Jan, 2009 to 6,400,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 146.2%
7. The national debt increased, in trillions, from $10,627 in Jan, 2009 to $14,052 in July, 2011 for an increase of 32.2%
8. When Bush left office, gas was $1.74 a gallon. Now its a low $3.49 for an increase of 100%.
Makes a lot of sense for anyone to support this guy. He is an unmitigated disaster and certainly not fit to run this country.
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1. The unemployment rate, non-farm, overall increased from 7.6% in Jan. 2009 to 9.4%, in July, 2011 for an increase of 23.7%
2. The unemployment rate for blacks increased from 12.6% in Jan, 2009 to 15.8% in July, 2011 for an increase of 25.4%
3. The number of unemployed increased from 11,616,000 in Jan, 2009 to 14,485,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 24.7%
4. The number of food stamp recipients increased from 31,983,598 in Jan. 2009 to 43,200,878 in July, 2011 for an increase, 35.1%
5. The number of unemployment benefit recipients increased from 7,526,598 in July, 2009 to 9,193,838 in July, 2011 for an increase of 22.2%
6. The number of long-term unemployed increased from 2,600,00 in Jan, 2009 to 6,400,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 146.2%
7. The national debt increased, in trillions, from $10,627 in Jan, 2009 to $14,052 in July, 2011 for an increase of 32.2%
8. When Bush left office, gas was $1.74 a gallon. Now its a low $3.49 for an increase of 100%.
Makes a lot of sense for anyone to support this guy. He is an unmitigated disaster and certainly not fit to run this country.
Weird, I thought Obama just gets to hit a "re-set" button when he get's into office
I don't underststand why the hemorage of job losses didn't just stop the day Obama was elected and everyone to rehired all the people they laid off. Isn't that how it's supposed to work?
Sure the price of gas was low when Obama took office but that's because global demand was down due to that aforementioned hemorage of job losses. Doesn't that just get reset the day the new POTUS gets into office.
National Debt - doesn't the new POTUS just get to ignore all the debt accumulated by prior administrations. Doesn't he get to just not make the interest payments on that debt?
OK - let's put all jokes aside and talk about the present day
what has Romney offered to address any of these problems
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Weird, I thought Obama just gets to hit a "re-set" button when he get's into office
I don't underststand why the hemorage of job losses didn't just stop the day Obama was elected and everyone to rehired all the people they laid off. Isn't that how it's supposed to work?
Sure the price of gas was low when Obama took office but that's because global demand was down due to that aforementioned hemorage of job losses. Doesn't that just get reset the day the new POTUS gets into office.
National Debt - doesn't the new POTUS just get to ignore all the debt accumulated by prior administrations. Doesn't he get to just not make the interest payments on that debt?
OK - let's put all jokes aside and talk about the present day
what has Romney offered to address any of these problems
Yawn. Same old tired excuses from bubble boy.
It's been almost 3 years and things are significantly worse. Obama himself said that he expected the economy to turn around in 3 years or he should be held culpable. :)
On February 1, 2009, Obama said:
“A year from now I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some progress,” said Obama. ”But there’s still going to be some pain out there. If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
I stopped reading your post after the first excuse about unemployment. Props for taking your mouth of his dick long enough to type of that laundry list of excuses for his failure of presidency.
1. The unemployment rate, non-farm, overall increased from 7.6% in Jan. 2009 to 9.4%, in July, 2011 for an increase of 23.7%
2. The unemployment rate for blacks increased from 12.6% in Jan, 2009 to 15.8% in July, 2011 for an increase of 25.4%
3. The number of unemployed increased from 11,616,000 in Jan, 2009 to 14,485,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 24.7%
4. The number of food stamp recipients increased from 31,983,598 in Jan. 2009 to 43,200,878 in July, 2011 for an increase, 35.1%
5. The number of unemployment benefit recipients increased from 7,526,598 in July, 2009 to 9,193,838 in July, 2011 for an increase of 22.2%
6. The number of long-term unemployed increased from 2,600,00 in Jan, 2009 to 6,400,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 146.2%
7. The national debt increased, in trillions, from $10,627 in Jan, 2009 to $14,052 in July, 2011 for an increase of 32.2%
8. When Bush left office, gas was $1.74 a gallon. Now its a low $3.49 for an increase of 100%.
1. The unemployment rate, non-farm, overall increased from 7.6% in Jan. 2009 to 9.4%, in July, 2011 for an increase of 23.7%
2. The unemployment rate for blacks increased from 12.6% in Jan, 2009 to 15.8% in July, 2011 for an increase of 25.4%
3. The number of unemployed increased from 11,616,000 in Jan, 2009 to 14,485,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 24.7%
4. The number of food stamp recipients increased from 31,983,598 in Jan. 2009 to 43,200,878 in July, 2011 for an increase, 35.1%
5. The number of unemployment benefit recipients increased from 7,526,598 in July, 2009 to 9,193,838 in July, 2011 for an increase of 22.2%
6. The number of long-term unemployed increased from 2,600,00 in Jan, 2009 to 6,400,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 146.2%
7. The national debt increased, in trillions, from $10,627 in Jan, 2009 to $14,052 in July, 2011 for an increase of 32.2%
8. When Bush left office, gas was $1.74 a gallon. Now its a low $3.49 for an increase of 100%.
1. The unemployment rate, non-farm, overall increased from 7.6% in Jan. 2009 to 9.4%, in July, 2011 for an increase of 23.7%
2. The unemployment rate for blacks increased from 12.6% in Jan, 2009 to 15.8% in July, 2011 for an increase of 25.4%
3. The number of unemployed increased from 11,616,000 in Jan, 2009 to 14,485,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 24.7%
4. The number of food stamp recipients increased from 31,983,598 in Jan. 2009 to 43,200,878 in July, 2011 for an increase, 35.1%
5. The number of unemployment benefit recipients increased from 7,526,598 in July, 2009 to 9,193,838 in July, 2011 for an increase of 22.2%
6. The number of long-term unemployed increased from 2,600,00 in Jan, 2009 to 6,400,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 146.2%
7. The national debt increased, in trillions, from $10,627 in Jan, 2009 to $14,052 in July, 2011 for an increase of 32.2%
8. When Bush left office, gas was $1.74 a gallon. Now its a low $3.49 for an increase of 100%.
FAIL.
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he's a flip flopper, a profound corporate shill ("corporations are people my friend") and most importantly I haven't heard him present any viable ideas to address job growth, income disparity, or even foreign policy issues. Maybe it's because he is too busy fighting off attacks from Perry, Cain, Bachmann, etc.. so hopefully he'll present some ideas once he secures the nomination.
LOL obama is all those things?
so what makes obama better?
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Romney is a corporate shill yet Obama brought in more Wall St. money last quarter than Romney did. Obama hired a former Wall St. lobbyist for his campaign. Obama's office is loaded with former Wall St. guys.
Guys, Obama is definitely not a corporate shill.
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Yawn. Same old tired excuses from bubble boy.
It's been almost 3 years and things are significantly worse. Obama himself said that he expected the economy to turn around in 3 years or he should be held culpable. :)
On February 1, 2009, Obama said:
“A year from now I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some progress,” said Obama. ”But there’s still going to be some pain out there. If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
I stopped reading your post after the first excuse about unemployment. Props for taking your mouth of his dick long enough to type of that laundry list of excuses for his failure of presidency.
1. The unemployment rate, non-farm, overall increased from 7.6% in Jan. 2009 to 9.4%, in July, 2011 for an increase of 23.7%
2. The unemployment rate for blacks increased from 12.6% in Jan, 2009 to 15.8% in July, 2011 for an increase of 25.4%
3. The number of unemployed increased from 11,616,000 in Jan, 2009 to 14,485,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 24.7%
4. The number of food stamp recipients increased from 31,983,598 in Jan. 2009 to 43,200,878 in July, 2011 for an increase, 35.1%
5. The number of unemployment benefit recipients increased from 7,526,598 in July, 2009 to 9,193,838 in July, 2011 for an increase of 22.2%
6. The number of long-term unemployed increased from 2,600,00 in Jan, 2009 to 6,400,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 146.2%
7. The national debt increased, in trillions, from $10,627 in Jan, 2009 to $14,052 in July, 2011 for an increase of 32.2%
8. When Bush left office, gas was $1.74 a gallon. Now its a low $3.49 for an increase of 100%.
1. The unemployment rate, non-farm, overall increased from 7.6% in Jan. 2009 to 9.4%, in July, 2011 for an increase of 23.7%
2. The unemployment rate for blacks increased from 12.6% in Jan, 2009 to 15.8% in July, 2011 for an increase of 25.4%
3. The number of unemployed increased from 11,616,000 in Jan, 2009 to 14,485,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 24.7%
4. The number of food stamp recipients increased from 31,983,598 in Jan. 2009 to 43,200,878 in July, 2011 for an increase, 35.1%
5. The number of unemployment benefit recipients increased from 7,526,598 in July, 2009 to 9,193,838 in July, 2011 for an increase of 22.2%
6. The number of long-term unemployed increased from 2,600,00 in Jan, 2009 to 6,400,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 146.2%
7. The national debt increased, in trillions, from $10,627 in Jan, 2009 to $14,052 in July, 2011 for an increase of 32.2%
8. When Bush left office, gas was $1.74 a gallon. Now its a low $3.49 for an increase of 100%.
1. The unemployment rate, non-farm, overall increased from 7.6% in Jan. 2009 to 9.4%, in July, 2011 for an increase of 23.7%
2. The unemployment rate for blacks increased from 12.6% in Jan, 2009 to 15.8% in July, 2011 for an increase of 25.4%
3. The number of unemployed increased from 11,616,000 in Jan, 2009 to 14,485,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 24.7%
4. The number of food stamp recipients increased from 31,983,598 in Jan. 2009 to 43,200,878 in July, 2011 for an increase, 35.1%
5. The number of unemployment benefit recipients increased from 7,526,598 in July, 2009 to 9,193,838 in July, 2011 for an increase of 22.2%
6. The number of long-term unemployed increased from 2,600,00 in Jan, 2009 to 6,400,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 146.2%
7. The national debt increased, in trillions, from $10,627 in Jan, 2009 to $14,052 in July, 2011 for an increase of 32.2%
8. When Bush left office, gas was $1.74 a gallon. Now its a low $3.49 for an increase of 100%.
FAIL.
Things are worse
have you seen corporate profits in the last 3 years
Corporations are people my friend and big corporations are doing GREAT
Don't worry though, when Romney wins all of the things on your list will be magically reset to zero and he'll get a clean slate to work with.
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Things are worse
have you seen corporate profits in the last 3 years
Corporations are people my friend and big corporations are doing GREAT
Don't worry though, when Romney wins all of the things on your list will be magically reset to zero and he'll get a clean slate to work with.
I don't know if you've seen the latest earnings reports but corporation profits are falling hard. Apple missed expectations for the first time since 2004, and where Apple goes so goes the economy.
1. The unemployment rate, non-farm, overall increased from 7.6% in Jan. 2009 to 9.4%, in July, 2011 for an increase of 23.7%
2. The unemployment rate for blacks increased from 12.6% in Jan, 2009 to 15.8% in July, 2011 for an increase of 25.4%
3. The number of unemployed increased from 11,616,000 in Jan, 2009 to 14,485,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 24.7%
4. The number of food stamp recipients increased from 31,983,598 in Jan. 2009 to 43,200,878 in July, 2011 for an increase, 35.1%
5. The number of unemployment benefit recipients increased from 7,526,598 in July, 2009 to 9,193,838 in July, 2011 for an increase of 22.2%
6. The number of long-term unemployed increased from 2,600,00 in Jan, 2009 to 6,400,000 in July, 2011 for an increase of 146.2%
7. The national debt increased, in trillions, from $10,627 in Jan, 2009 to $14,052 in July, 2011 for an increase of 32.2%
8. When Bush left office, gas was $1.74 a gallon. Now its a low $3.49 for an increase of 100%.
Downgrade is a fucking disaster. The best part of this is that he and the Dems had control of all 3 branches for TWO YEARS and they still fucked it up this badly! This is what happens when you put thugs into power who, instead of worrying about the average American, care more about their union buddies and the wealthy bundlers that put them into power.
Downgrade, Pelosi and Reid will go down as the worst thing to ever happen to this country.
There is no reason whatsoever to give any of these assholes another shot.
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Apple profits jump 54% on record sales of 4.9M Macs, 11.2M iPads
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Apple said Tuesday that fourth quarter profits rose nearly 54% to $6.62 billion, or $7.05 per diluted share, driven by record sales of more than 11 million iPads and nearly 5 million Macs.
The company posted quarterly revenue of $28.27 billion and quarterly net profit of $6.62 billion, or $7.05 per diluted share for the three-month period ending September 24, 2011. The results compare to revenue of $20.34 billion and net quarterly profit of $4.31 billion, or $4.64 per diluted share, in the year-ago quarter.
“We are thrilled with the very strong finish of an outstanding fiscal 2011, growing annual revenue to $108 billion and growing earnings to $26 billion,” said Tim Cook, Apple’s CEO. “Customer response to iPhone 4S has been fantastic, we have strong momentum going into the holiday season, and we remain really enthusiastic about our product pipeline.”
Apple sold 17.07 million iPhones during the quarter as it drew down inventories ahead of this month's iPhone 4S launch, still representing 21 percent unit growth over the year-ago quarter. The Cupertino-based firm also reported new quarterly records for iPad sales at 11.2 million units and Macs at 4.89 million units, an increase of, a 166 percent and 26 percent, respectively.
Apple also sold a record low 6.62 million iPods, a 27 percent unit decline from the year-ago quarter. Gross margin was 40.3 percent compared to 36.9 percent in the year-ago quarter and International sales accounted for 63 percent of the quarter’s revenue.
“We are extremely pleased with our record September quarter revenue and earnings and with cash generation of $5.4 billion during the quarter,” said Peter Oppenheimer, Apple’s CFO. “Looking ahead to the first fiscal quarter of 2012, which will span 14 weeks rather than 13, we expect revenue of about $37 billion and we expect diluted earnings per share of about $9.30.”
Apple will provide live streaming of its Q4 2011 financial results conference call beginning at 2:00 p.m. PDT. AppleInsider will provide full coverage.
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Thank you for once again proving how fucking retarded you are. I said Apple MISSED EXPECTATIONS for the first time since 2004, which is a good indicator of the slowdown to the economy. They've been destroying expectations, dipshit. ::)
And other sure-fire companies like Amazon missed expectations, too
Are there any leftists on here with even a rudimentary grasp of finance/economics? Or is it just jobless, schizophrenic deadbeats like Blacken? I'll bet you had a shit-eating grin on your face as you typed that post up thinking you were going to own me, too. :-*
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Thank you for once again proving how fucking retarded you are. I said Apple MISSED EXPECTATIONS for the first time since 2004, which is a good indicator of the slowdown to the economy. They've been destroying expectations, dipshit. ::)
And other sure-fire companies like Amazon missed expectations, too
Are there any leftists on here with even a rudimentary grasp of finance/economics? Or is it just jobless, schizophrenic deadbeats like Blacken?
i just wonder why you have to call everyone names,i have a feeling your just a little nerd that was picked on in school all the time and your keyboard is your way of pretending your some big tough guy ;D
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From March of this year
NEW YORK -- Despite high unemployment and a largely languishing real estate market, U.S. businesses are more profitable than ever, according to federal figures released on Friday.
U.S. corporate profits hit an all-time high at the end of 2010, with financial firms showing some of the biggest gains, data from the federal Bureau of Economic Analysis show. Corporations reported an annualized $1.68 trillion in profit in the fourth quarter. The previous record, without being adjusted for inflation, was $1.65 trillion in the third quarter of 2006.
Many of the nation's preeminent companies have posted massive increases in profits this year. General Electric posted worldwide profits of $14.2 billion, while profits at JPMorgan Chase were up 47 percent to $4.8 billion.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/25/corporate-profits-2011-all-time-high_n_840538.html
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i just wonder why you have to call everyone names,i have a feeling your just a little nerd that was picked on in school all the time and your keyboard is your way of pretending your some big tough guy ;D
my guess is profound insecurity
which is most likely the same reason he lies about his age (I assume he is lying and wasn't 28 in the tenth grade but if he was then there is your alternative explanation for the constant name calling)
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i just wonder why you have to call everyone names,i have a feeling your just a little nerd that was picked on in school all the time and your keyboard is your way of pretending your some big tough guy ;D
I have no respect for a jobless, schizophrenic degenerate that actually converses with himself on his gimmicks on here.
Why are you avoiding the thread I outed you in? Your threads and whork's are identical. :)
Why do you back your points up on here with a dozen gimmicks? That's a true sign of insecurity.
From March of this year
NEW YORK -- Despite high unemployment and a largely languishing real estate market, U.S. businesses are more profitable than ever, according to federal figures released on Friday.
U.S. corporate profits hit an all-time high at the end of 2010, with financial firms showing some of the biggest gains, data from the federal Bureau of Economic Analysis show. Corporations reported an annualized $1.68 trillion in profit in the fourth quarter. The previous record, without being adjusted for inflation, was $1.65 trillion in the third quarter of 2006.
Many of the nation's preeminent companies have posted massive increases in profits this year. General Electric posted worldwide profits of $14.2 billion, while profits at JPMorgan Chase were up 47 percent to $4.8 billion.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/25/corporate-profits-2011-all-time-high_n_840538.html
Lot has happened since March. But it says a lot that you have to go all the way back to 2010 to prove your point.
You might want to look at JP Morgan's returns in the last quarter and the accounting gimmick they pulled just to turn a profit.
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LOL obama is all those things?
so what makes obama better?
Romney is a corporate shill yet Obama brought in more Wall St. money last quarter than Romney did. Obama hired a former Wall St. lobbyist for his campaign. Obama's office is loaded with former Wall St. guys.
Guys, Obama is definitely not a corporate shill.
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i just wonder why you have to call everyone names,i have a feeling your just a little nerd that was picked on in school all the time and your keyboard is your way of pretending your some big tough guy ;D
i had a feeling i was right ;D
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Lot has happened since March. But it says a lot that you have to go all the way back to 2010 to prove your point.
You might want to look at JP Morgan's returns in the last quarter and the accounting gimmick they pulled just to turn a profit.
all the way back to 2010......the end of the most recent year (which wasn't even tallied up until the end of Q12011).
You can find plenty of companies today that are still posting record profits. One of the oil companies was in the news today with record profits
btw - aren't you the guy who is going all the way back to the beginning of 2009 to try to make some point?
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i had a feeling i was right ;D
You back yourself up with your own gimmicks on this board. A board where half a dozen people post and you're actually worried about defending your point.
So is it schizophrenia or what? You're on here every day talking to yourself. To be quite honest, it's just creepy. :-\
all the way back to 2010......the end of the most recent year (which wasn't even tallied up until the end of Q12011).
You can find plenty of companies today that are still posting record profits. One of the oil companies was in the news today with record profits
btw - aren't you the guy who is going all the way back to the beginning of 2009 to try to make some point?
It's almost like you're purposely ignoring the massive downturn the economic has taken in the last few months. Oh wait, never mind, you're trying to fabricate an artificial position in an argument again. Carry on.
Doesn't get much funnier than someone using 2010 to prove an argument about the economy in October 2011. ::)
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all politicians suck up to big money (except for a handful) and Obama is no different
You've got to make up your mind about Obama. One day the right is telling us he hates corporate america and wants to destry it (you know, the marxist/socialist meme) and that corporate america hates him back just as much and then the next day you're telling us he's sucking up to corporations, in bed with coporate america, etc... Which one is it?
BTW - let me know when Obama says coporations are people and I'll ridicule him for it as much as I do Romney
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all politicians suck up to big money (except for a handful) and Obama is no different
You've got to make up your mind about Obama. One day the right is telling us he hates corporate america and wants to destry it (you know, the marxist/socialist meme) and that corporate america hates him back just as much and then the next day you're telling us he's sucking up to corporations, in bed with coporate america, etc... Which one is it?
BTW - let me know when Obama says coporations are people and I'll ridicule him for it as much as I do Romney
It's called crony capitalism. ::)
You gotta pay to play with the big Downgrade. He's shown that the only corporate interests he likes are those of the people who donate to him.
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GE straw? JPM? Lol!
Immelt and Dimon - Obama BFFs
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You back yourself up with your own gimmicks on this board. A board where half a dozen people post and you're actually worried about defending your point.
So is it schizophrenia or what? You're on here every day talking to yourself. To be quite honest, it's just creepy. :-\
It's almost like you're purposely ignoring the massive downturn the economic has taken in the last few months. Oh wait, never mind, you're trying to fabricate an artificial position in an argument again. Carry on.
Doesn't get much funnier than someone using 2010 to prove an argument about the economy in October 2011. ::)
I'm definitely not saying things are great now (don't think I ever said that) but your premise that Obama has only made things worse is patently false. Clearly some people are doing just as good or better than ever but many are absolutely still struggling and home values have definitely gone down after going up in 2009 and 2010. No doubt about that at all
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UE straw?
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UE straw?
still sucks
can't recall anything that ANY repub has suggested to fix it
At least the Dems are trying to do something rather than nothing
BTW - wasnt your plan to let things get much worse
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still sucks
can't recall anything that ANY repub has suggested to fix it
At least the Dems are trying to do something rather than nothing
BTW - wasnt your plan to let things get much worse
My plan would have had us out of this by now.
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My plan would have had us out of this by now.
bullshit
your plan was to let all the car companies go broke, do no stimulus (proven by the CBO and admitted to by Repubs to have helped save jobs and stimulate the economy) and to do nothing for anyone
And you've admitted (to your credit) that doing so would have made things profoundly worse
exactly how would we have crawled out of that much larger hole by now
what do you think would have happened to turn around what would have been MUCH larger unemployment and a much greater drop in GDP.
Where would all the new demand have come from?
I can't wait to hear your answer
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elemdorff testified yesterday that CBO can't prove any jobs were created by the stim bill.
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elemdorff testified yesterday that CBO can't prove any jobs were created by the stim bill.
you didn't answer the question
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I would massively cut taxes on people and business. There is always demand by people for products, but by inflating the dollar and stealing people's labor via theft ie taxation you depress demand.
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I would massively cut taxes on people and business. There is always demand by people for products, but by inflating the dollar and stealing people's labor via theft ie taxation you depress demand.
and that's been proven to do NOTHING to increase demand or create jobs
so that's a complete FAIL (btw - you might recall that the Stim Bill was about 40% tax cuts and the Bush Tax cuts were in place during that entire time as well)
how about explaining how you would deal with millions or more people who would have been unemployed under your plan and how they would have jobs now
btw - here's a link to Elemdorfs testimony - please show me the part that supports your claim that he said he can't prove any jobs were created by the stimulus.
http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/124xx/doc12490/10-26-DiscretionarySpending_Testimony.pdf
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all politicians suck up to big money (except for a handful) and Obama is no different
You've got to make up your mind about Obama. One day the right is telling us he hates corporate america and wants to destry it (you know, the marxist/socialist meme) and that corporate america hates him back just as much and then the next day you're telling us he's sucking up to corporations, in bed with coporate america, etc... Which one is it?
BTW - let me know when Obama says coporations are people and I'll ridicule him for it as much as I do Romney
LOL if you dont see the dichotemy of obama's anti business policies and his taking money from them for his election coffers your a fucking moron!!!
his policies are anti business that doesnt mean businesses are going to stop sucking up to him and vice versa...Look at GE and what its been given as a result of being close to the obama administration...
sorry hoss but corps are legally seperate entities, thats what romney was getting at and ppl that dont understand that either are dumb asses or just hearing what they want to hear...
so right now you have romney said corps are people, as a reason to vote for obama?
solid reasoning there ::)
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CBO Agrees With Toomey: "Impossible To Prove" Stimulus Created Jobs
SEN. TOOMEY: I know it is your view that the recent huge increase in spending and the corresponding big deficits have generated more economic growth and more job creation that we would have had in the absence of those things. But surely you’d agree, that that essentially asks for a comparison to a counterfactual, and as such, it’s completely impossible to prove?
DR. DOUGLAS ELMENDORF, director of the CBO: Yes, that’s right, senator.
TOOMEY: I would just urge us to consider that there is another theory here which is that government cannot really create demand on balance. It can substitute public demand for private demand, but that it’s illusory to think that government can simply step in and make up for what is perceived to be a shortfall of private sector demand. And by the way, I would suggest that there are governments such as Greece and Italy and Portugal and Spain who’ve created a lot of demand domestically through their excessive spending, and it’s not working out so well for them. I wanted to follow up on something. I might have misunderstood this, but I thought I heard someone suggest that non-defense discretionary spending has been essentially flat for about the last decade. And I think we’ve touched on this in various ways, but I just want to be very clear. In fact, by any reasonable measure, non-defense discretionary spending has grown dramatically, I would say. The numbers I have are, in 2000, we spent about $284 billion in non-defense discretionary spending. In 2010, we spent $550 billion. We’ve had a slight reduction in 2011. But this is growing, obviously in nominal terms; it’s growing in inflation-adjusted terms; it’s growing faster than inflation plus population growth; it’s growing faster than GDP, in fact. Isn’t that true?
ELMENDORF: I think that’s correct about outlays, senator. And I do show that in one of the figures. The issue, though, worth pointing to is that funding, meaning the new budget authority that Congress is providing for non-defense discretionary purposes, is actually now back down already in fiscal year 2011, as a share of GDP, to roughly what it was over the preceding few decades. And you can see that in figure six of the testimony. Now, you’re right in terms of nominal dollars or in terms of real inflation-adjusted dollars, it is certainly up. As a share of GDP though, there is a sharp distinction between the level of outlays in 2011 which depended on previous years’ funding and the level of funding in 2011 which is the jumping off point for future discussions of appropriations.
TOOMEY: My point is over this 10-year period, we’ve seen huge growth in non-defense discretionary spending. The last point I’d just like to ask is, I think it’s your view but I like to ask, is it your view that if we were to pursue revenue neutral tax reform, that would have the effect of broadening the base upon which taxes are applied and lowering marginal rates, that it is true both with respect to such corporate reform or individual reform that that would have a pro-growth effect on the economy, which of course would in turn generates more income for the government?
ELMENDORF: Yes, that’s right. Again, the amount would depend on the specifics of the proposal.
TOOMEY: Absolutely. But to the extent that we pursued that, we would be generating economic growth, therefore jobs and revenue for the Treasury?
ELMENDORF: Yes, senator.
TOOMEY: Great, thanks very much.
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and that's been proven to do NOTHING to increase demand or create jobs
so that's a complete FAIL (btw - you might recall that the Stim Bill was about 40% tax cuts and the Bush Tax cuts were in place during that entire time as well)
how about explaining how you would deal with millions or more people who would have been unemployed under your plan and how they would have jobs now
btw - here's a link to Elemdorfs testimony - please show me the part that supports your claim that he said he can't prove any jobs were created by the stimulus.
http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/124xx/doc12490/10-26-DiscretionarySpending_Testimony.pdf
Give it a rest already. Even Downgrade himself is quoted saying you don't raise taxes in a recession.
The stimulus was a complete failure.
I suggest you read the follow three or four times would do as we all know you're pretty slow on uptake:
Liberal confuses 'hypothesis' for 'findings'
by Timothy P. Carney Senior Political Columnist
Boy, do liberals love to claim that their side is "pro-science," while conservatives are "anti-science." This is sort of their new thing. There are occasional bits of evidence they can point to, but this is mostly self-serving hogwash.
The irony is that, in making these claims, liberals often betray a complete ignorance of what science is. The latest example comes from The New Republic's Jonathan Cohn.
Cohn asserts:
Republicans and their allies keep saying the Recovery Act didn't work. The experts keep saying that it did. The latest is the Congressional Budget Office, which this week released a new economic projection and, in so doing, confirmed its earlier finding that the Recovery Act succeed in its primary goal: Saving or creating jobs in order to offset the effects of the recession.
And then he wraps up by lamenting, "In an ideal world, these findings would matter," but those neanderthal Republicans are too impervious to evidence.
Cohn thinks he's being all empiricist while Republicans are just opposing stimulus for political reasons or ideology. But here's the thing: there's not much empirical about those CBO "findings."
Reason's Peter Suderman explained this a few months back:
That’s because in order to produce those reports, the CBO effectively re-runs the same models that it used to estimate the effects of the stimulus before it started.
The reports aren’t based on a detailed measurement of real-world output. Instead, they’re based on measuring the input (how much money was spent), and then using models to project how big the multiplier effect has been. Measuring spending and modeling output means that you can believe the CBO when it says that the stimulus turned out to be more costly than expected, but you should remain wary about any claims made using the “real-world effects” side.
Here's how the CBO puts it:
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) based its estimates of the economic effects of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA) on information from various sources: macroeconometric forecasting models, general-equilibrium models, and direct extrapolations of past data.
There's nothing wrong with using economic models in many circumstances, but you can't claim that a piece of legislation worked because a model, based on assumptions that it would work, says it worked. You certainly can't accuse the legislation's critics of ignoring "findings."
If I had concluded that "More guns equal less crime," and then ran a model that embraced assumption, I could show pretty handily that places with more guns had less crime. Citing the CBO as proof of the stimulus's effects is only less ridiculous because the models are more complex.
The bottom line is that if the stimulus bill did not do what it was originally forecast to do, then that would not have been detected by the subsequent analysis. I say that because CBO director Doug Elmendorf said, "if the stimulus bill did not do what it was originally forecast to do, then that would not have been detected by the subsequent analysis."
The irony, of course, is that Cohn thinks he's relying on results while opponents rely on presumptions, but his "results" are not based in "findings," but in carrying out a syllogism from his own presumptions.
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/liberal-confuses-hypothesis-findings
Good luck refuting that.
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CBO Agrees With Toomey: "Impossible To Prove" Stimulus Created Jobs
SEN. TOOMEY: I know it is your view that the recent huge increase in spending and the corresponding big deficits have generated more economic growth and more job creation that we would have had in the absence of those things. But surely you’d agree, that that essentially asks for a comparison to a counterfactual, and as such, it’s completely impossible to prove?
DR. DOUGLAS ELMENDORF, director of the CBO: Yes, that’s right, senator.
TOOMEY: I would just urge us to consider that there is another theory here which is that government cannot really create demand on balance. It can substitute public demand for private demand, but that it’s illusory to think that government can simply step in and make up for what is perceived to be a shortfall of private sector demand. And by the way, I would suggest that there are governments such as Greece and Italy and Portugal and Spain who’ve created a lot of demand domestically through their excessive spending, and it’s not working out so well for them. I wanted to follow up on something. I might have misunderstood this, but I thought I heard someone suggest that non-defense discretionary spending has been essentially flat for about the last decade. And I think we’ve touched on this in various ways, but I just want to be very clear. In fact, by any reasonable measure, non-defense discretionary spending has grown dramatically, I would say. The numbers I have are, in 2000, we spent about $284 billion in non-defense discretionary spending. In 2010, we spent $550 billion. We’ve had a slight reduction in 2011. But this is growing, obviously in nominal terms; it’s growing in inflation-adjusted terms; it’s growing faster than inflation plus population growth; it’s growing faster than GDP, in fact. Isn’t that true?
ELMENDORF: I think that’s correct about outlays, senator. And I do show that in one of the figures. The issue, though, worth pointing to is that funding, meaning the new budget authority that Congress is providing for non-defense discretionary purposes, is actually now back down already in fiscal year 2011, as a share of GDP, to roughly what it was over the preceding few decades. And you can see that in figure six of the testimony. Now, you’re right in terms of nominal dollars or in terms of real inflation-adjusted dollars, it is certainly up. As a share of GDP though, there is a sharp distinction between the level of outlays in 2011 which depended on previous years’ funding and the level of funding in 2011 which is the jumping off point for future discussions of appropriations.
TOOMEY: My point is over this 10-year period, we’ve seen huge growth in non-defense discretionary spending. The last point I’d just like to ask is, I think it’s your view but I like to ask, is it your view that if we were to pursue revenue neutral tax reform, that would have the effect of broadening the base upon which taxes are applied and lowering marginal rates, that it is true both with respect to such corporate reform or individual reform that that would have a pro-growth effect on the economy, which of course would in turn generates more income for the government?
ELMENDORF: Yes, that’s right. Again, the amount would depend on the specifics of the proposal.
TOOMEY: Absolutely. But to the extent that we pursued that, we would be generating economic growth, therefore jobs and revenue for the Treasury?
ELMENDORF: Yes, senator.
TOOMEY: Great, thanks very much.
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CBO Agrees With Toomey: "Impossible To Prove" Stimulus Created Jobs
SEN. TOOMEY: I know it is your view that the recent huge increase in spending and the corresponding big deficits have generated more economic growth and more job creation that we would have had in the absence of those things. But surely you’d agree, that that essentially asks for a comparison to a counterfactual, and as such, it’s completely impossible to prove?
DR. DOUGLAS ELMENDORF, director of the CBO: Yes, that’s right, senator.
Toomey says that it's impossible to compare the stimulus to the absense of stimulus (the counterfactual) and PROVE that it generated more job creation.
No one can prove that just like no one can prove the opposite
he didn't say the the stimulus didn't create or save existing jobs
btw - I like how all the right wing websites posted misleading titles to the articles with this video
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LOL if you dont see the dichotemy of obama's anti business policies and his taking money from them for his election coffers your a fucking moron!!!
his policies are anti business that doesnt mean businesses are going to stop sucking up to him and vice versa...Look at GE and what its been given as a result of being close to the obama administration...
sorry hoss but corps are legally seperate entities, thats what romney was getting at and ppl that dont understand that either are dumb asses or just hearing what they want to hear...
so right now you have romney said corps are people, as a reason to vote for obama?
solid reasoning there ::)
whats funny is that you say that romney is a corp shill and say thats a reason to vote against him and when its pointed out that obama is even more of one you dismiss it by saying that all politicians are...
didnt notice that until I went back and read your post...LMFAO good reasoning there...
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yep, Obama got saddled with all the debt and interest on the debt run up by prior administrations
that's how the world works.
he also added the wars into his budget
I know you like to ignore details like this but you can still continue your hatred of Obama either way
If we weren't still climbing out of a hole he could do a slash and burn which would make you happy
If he did the slash and burn now (or had done in 2009) we'd be in MUCH worse shape at the present moment.
You've admitted previously that you understand this but you've said it would be OK with you if things got much much worse but most people in the country would like to see our government make some actual effort to stop things from getting worse (and spare me the lie that the healthcare legislation is making things worse because it's not true and we've discussed it many times already)
What a bunch of bullshit, her got saddled my ass!!!!!!!! He was in congress he knew exactly what he was getting into. That is a poor excuse for a piss poor POTUS
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whats funny is that you say that romney is a corp shill and say thats a reason to vote against him and when its pointed out that obama is even more of one you dismiss it by saying that all politicians are...
didnt notice that until I went back and read your post...LMFAO good reasoning there...
I rejected your notion that Obama is MORE of a corporate shill
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I rejected your notion that Obama is MORE of a corporate shill
LLLMMMFFFAAAOOO!!!! Are you fucking blind!!!
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What a bunch of bullshit, her got saddled my ass!!!!!!!! He was in congress he knew exactly what he was getting into. That is a poor excuse for a piss poor POTUS
bullshit
just because he was in the Senate doesn't negate the fact that his deficit includes interest on debt racked up by previous administrations
Shit, even the POTUS doesn't have all the #'s on all data
We just found out a few months ago that the drop in GDP in 2009 was MUCH greater than was thought at that time
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You know Perry was a democrat when he bought that vacation home, right?
Any other leftists want to step up and expose their racist roots? Robert Byrd would be proud.
Doesn't matter at this point.
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LLLMMMFFFAAAOOO!!!! Are you fucking blind!!!
what happened to Obama hates the business community, wants to destroy it, and they hate him too
wasn't that the meme during the first couple of years (ignoring the fact that during the 2008 campaign he raised lot's of money from big business)
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bullshit
just because he was in the Senate doesn't negate the fact that his deficit includes interest on debt racked up by previous administrations
Shit, even the POTUS doesn't have all the #'s on all data
We just found out a few months ago that the drop in GDP in 2009 was MUCH greater than was thought at that time
Do you have no understanding on how the federal government works? Congress presents and votes on the budgets. Your whole premiss that he was ignorant to it proves he was completely incompetent in his duties as Senator from Illinois or he knew that he could blame all the problems on the previous admin, and the weak minded would buy it. And while we are on the subject of budgets where the fuck is it? How many years are we going to go without one, yeah I'm sure you'll dream up some scenario that its all the R's fault ::)
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Doesn't matter at this point.
Haha, so now it doesn't matter because it rebukes the stupid point you were trying to make.
Thanks for playing, Vince. Stick to turning BB guns into automatic assault rifles.
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Do you have no understanding on how the federal government works? Congress presents and votes on the budgets. Your whole premiss that he was ignorant to it proves he was completely incompetent in his duties as Senator from Illinois or he knew that he could blame all the problems on the previous admin, and the weak minded would buy it. And while we are on the subject of budgets where the fuck is it? How many years are we going to go without one, yeah I'm sure you'll dream up some scenario that its all the R's fault ::)
please show me where I said or even suggested Obama was ignorant of the level of debt he was walking into
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Haha, so now it doesn't matter because it rebukes the stupid point you were trying to make.
Thanks for playing, Vince. Stick to turning BB guns into automatic assault rifles.
Lol.
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333 - do you have point or is this just part of your daily dump of anything that catches your eye and fuels your black generic rage?
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Do you have no understanding on how the federal government works? Congress presents and votes on the budgets. Your whole premiss that he was ignorant to it proves he was completely incompetent in his duties as Senator from Illinois or he knew that he could blame all the problems on the previous admin, and the weak minded would buy it. And while we are on the subject of budgets where the fuck is it? How many years are we going to go without one, yeah I'm sure you'll dream up some scenario that its all the R's fault ::)
I wonder if the Senate will vote on the 15 or so Republican jobs bills Reid has sitting on his desk.
I'm really curious as to what this guy actually does. They haven't passed a budget in 900+ days, even though they're legally obligated to. He shelves anything passed by the House. What exactly does he do besides being a useless prick?
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please show me where I said or even suggested Obama was ignorant of the level of debt he was walking into
I believe you said he was saddled with it, as if he didn't know. No back on point
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We have a president who called whites bitter clingers, "typical white people", went to a racist church for 20 years, hung around w domestic terrorists, etc, yet many whites still voted for Obama.
hhhmmmm?????
Its a disgrace how blacks are in such lockstep and act like culled herd of mindless sheep and lemmings.
Many whites voted for Obama because he was the better man for the job than John McCain not to mention that Bush had literally fucked things up royally to where they would not vote Repub. McCain's biggest mistake was bringing Sarah Palin along for the ride......
And as far as black people are concerned, the Republicans have given no good reason for them to vote otherwise...they haven't addressed any black leaders, campaigned in any black neighborhoods, and in fact many of these local and state GOP leader have been caught numerous times posting racist ads and writings of blacks.
Even worse, the Latinos are not going to vote Republican because everyone on stage is talking about putting up electric double wall fences and making racist comments about them as well.
So don't be a fucking dum ass 33 number boy....you simply can't expect any black person to vote for a party that makes it quite clear that they don't give a shit about them
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I believe you said he was saddled with it, as if he didn't know. No back on point
he was saddled with it
I never said or suggested he didn't know about it or was unaware of it
I was pointing out that that his budget deficits included interest payments on prior debt and also included the wars which were never included in Bush's budget hence never part of the official budget deficit
this is something that right wingers like to ignore when they talk about Obama's budget deficit
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Many whites voted for Obama because he was the better man for the job than John McCain not to mention that Bush had literally fucked things up royally to where they would not vote Repub. McCain's biggest mistake was bringing Sarah Palin along for the ride......
And as far as black people are concerned, the Republicans have given no good reason for them to vote otherwise...they haven't addressed any black leaders, campaigned in any black neighborhoods, and in fact many of these local and state GOP leader have been caught numerous times posting racist ads and writings of blacks.
Even worse, the Latinos are not going to vote Republican because everyone on stage is talking about putting up electric double wall fences and making racist comments about them as well.
So don't be a fucking dum ass 33 number boy....you simply can't expect any black person to vote for a party that makes it quite clear that they don't give a shit about them
And why exactly do blacks and Latinos deserve anymore "attention" than white, native americans, chinese americans, korean americans.......... The thing that seems to allude you is we are all Americans
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Why should they? Blacks vote like robots.
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he was saddled with it
I never said or suggested he didn't know about it or was unaware of it
I was pointing out that that his budget deficits included interest payments on prior debt and also included the wars which were never included in Bush's budget hence never part of the official budget deficit
this is something that right wingers like to ignore when they talk about Obama's budget deficit
And who approved the spending, the POTUS just can't do it on his own. Here's a hint, congress
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And why exactly do blacks and Latinos deserve anymore "attention" than white, native americans, chinese americans, korean americans.......... The thing that seems to allude you is we are all Americans
Because the left has turned us all into hyphenated Americans. Everyone's "xxxxxxx-American" now and no longer just "American".
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Many whites voted for Obama because he was the better man for the job than John McCain not to mention that Bush had literally fucked things up royally to where they would not vote Repub. McCain's biggest mistake was bringing Sarah Palin along for the ride......
And as far as black people are concerned, the Republicans have given no good reason for them to vote otherwise...they haven't addressed any black leaders, campaigned in any black neighborhoods, and in fact many of these local and state GOP leader have been caught numerous times posting racist ads and writings of blacks.
Even worse, the Latinos are not going to vote Republican because everyone on stage is talking about putting up electric double wall fences and making racist comments about them as well.
So don't be a fucking dum ass 33 number boy....you simply can't expect any black person to vote for a party that makes it quite clear that they don't give a shit about them
very nice post Vince....people don't realize that Blacks do not vote Republican because THE REPUBLICANS DO NOT WANT THEIR VOTE...Republicans NEVER campaign in black neighborhoods and never bring their message to the black community....when was the last time you saw it reported on the news that Republicans spoke in front of a black group???
would ANY community vote for a party that does not even talk to them?
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Haha, so now it doesn't matter because it rebukes the stupid point you were trying to make.
Thanks for playing, Vince. Stick to turning BB guns into automatic assault rifles.
No it doesn't matter because Rick Perry is a Republican and Robert Byrd is 6 feet under.... ::)
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Why should they? Blacks vote like robots.
and white people don't.... ::)
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No it doesn't matter because Rick Perry is a Republican and Robert Byrd is 6 feet under.... ::)
Sure, how long did Byrd serve? Never heard any uproar from the "black community" about, guess as long as your a D then you can be a KKK recruiter ::)
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And why exactly do blacks and Latinos deserve anymore "attention" than white, native americans, chinese americans, korean americans.......... The thing that seems to allude you is we are all Americans
you are the biggest goddamn dick I have ever seen...if you don't know what the hell you are talking about you should exit the goddamn thread!....no one said blacks need more "attention" as you put it...what has been simply pointed out is that Republican candidates NEVER campaign in black neighborhoods and never bring their message to the black community...this is a deliberate strategy on their part to suppress the vote....its always been a tactic on their part so please learn your goddamn history
JESUS!!!!
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and white people don't.... ::)
Didnt know whites vote 95 percent for one party as reliably as the sun rising and falling.
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And who approved the spending, the POTUS just can't do it on his own. Here's a hint, congress
no shit
that doesn't mean he was not aware of it
the only people who seem to be unaware of it are those that pretend that his budget deficit does not include all the debt payments accumulated by previous administrations
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Didnt know whites vote 95 percent for one party as reliably as the sun rising and falling.
what I would like to know is why does this bother you so much????
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very nice post Vince....people don't realize that Blacks do not vote Republican because THE REPUBLICANS DO NOT WANT THEIR VOTE...Republicans NEVER campaign in black neighborhoods and never bring their message to the black community....when was the last time you saw it reported on the news that Republicans spoke in front of a black group???
would ANY community vote for a party that does not even talk to them?
And Obama does? It was just a few weeks ago that there were multiple articles talking about Obama and the Dems ignoring the black community because they know their vote is guaranteed.
No it doesn't matter because Rick Perry is a Republican and Robert Byrd is 6 feet under.... ::)
Rick Perry was a DEMOCRAT when he bought that rock. What he is now is irrelevant. He was a democrat and worked on Al Gore's campaign. Funny that you seem to have no problem with Al Gore employing a racist. :)
what I would like to know is why does this bother you so much????
I'm surprised it doesn't bother you. They know your vote is guaranteed regardless of what they do so they do just the bare minimum to keep you consistently voting like that. If they actually had to fight your votes they might actually do something to help the black community.
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you are the biggest goddamn dick I have ever seen...if you don't know what the hell you are talking about you should exit the goddamn thread!....no one said blacks need more "attention" as you put it...what has been simply pointed out is that Republican candidates NEVER campaign in black neighborhoods and never bring their message to the black community...this is a deliberate strategy on their part to suppress the vote....its always been a tactic on their part so please learn your goddamn history
JESUS!!!!
Why should they?
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you are the biggest goddamn dick I have ever sen...if you don't know what the hell you are talking about you should exit the goddamn thread!....no one said blacks need more "attention" as you put it...what has been simply pointed out is that Republican candidates NEVER campaign in black neighborhoods and never bring their message to the black community...this is a deliberate strategy on their part to suppress the vote....its always been a tactic on their part so please learn your goddamn history
JESUS!!!!
Fuck you, you worthless piece of shit. I'm sick of your bullshit you ignorant assclown. You wouldn't have a clue what the history of this country was it fell out of the sky and smashed your empty fucking skull. Always the black this and the black that be an American or fuck off. Cry me a fucking river, no republican or democrat for that matter has ever come to my neighborhood
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Why should they?
Aren't they supposed to running to represent everybody???..yet they don';t campaign at all in black neighborhoods
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Fuck you, you worthless piece of shit. I'm sick of your bullshit you ignorant assclown. You wouldn't have a clue what the history of this country was it fell out of the sky and smashed your empty fucking skull. Always the black this and the black that be an American or fuck off. Cry me a fucking river, no republican or democrat for that matter has ever come to my neighborhood
because YOU live there :)
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Aren't they supposed to running to represent everybody???..yet they don';t campaign at all in black neighborhoods
Why? As Cain said , blacks are brainwashed by the dem slave masters. Better chances f getting Latino or asian votes.
Sad but true.
If a guy like Schiff came rumbling through da hood, who really thinks he would be received warmly?
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because YOU live there :)
Nice retort retard, you like to talk alot of shit. With fuckheads like you representing the "black community" is it any wonder you are ignored
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Didnt know whites vote 95 percent for one party as reliably as the sun rising and falling.
The vast majority of people who vote already have their minds made up as to what party they are going to vote for.....that's black, white, Latino, Asian, etc.
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Fuck you, you worthless piece of shit. I'm sick of your bullshit you ignorant assclown. You wouldn't have a clue what the history of this country was it fell out of the sky and smashed your empty fucking skull. Always the black this and the black that be an American or fuck off. Cry me a fucking river, no republican or democrat for that matter has ever come to my neighborhood
2011 POST OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sure, how long did Byrd serve? Never heard any uproar from the "black community" about, guess as long as your a D then you can be a KKK recruiter ::)
He was a Senator from West Virginia...its prob the reason why he stayed so long in office.... ;D
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Why? As Cain said , blacks are brainwashed by the dem slave masters. Better chances f getting Latino or asian votes.
Sad but true.
If a guy like Schiff came rumbling through da hood, who really thinks he would be received warmly?
Downgrade ignoring them since taking office is proof of that. The Dems dangle just enough of a carrot to keep them in line and never any more than that. Morons like andre eat it up hook, line and sinker.
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Downgrade ignoring them since taking office is proof of that. The Dems dangle just enough of a carrot to keep them in line and never any more than that. Morons like andre eat it up hook, line and sinker.
Blacks are the beaten wives club for the demo slave plantation.
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Why? As Cain said , blacks are brainwashed by the dem slave masters. Better chances f getting Latino or asian votes.
Sad but true.
If a guy like Schiff came rumbling through da hood, who really thinks he would be received warmly?
No black man would vote for Herman Cain for the same reason why they would not vote for Alan Keyes. He simply There's been plenty of elections where a white person has won in a predominantly black area because the contender was a complete scumbag.
Herman Cain isn't respected by the black community because he basically sat out during the Civil Rights Era. He didn't march, he didn't abide by the boycotts, he didn't speak out against racism or anything. I mean, he graduated from Morehouse College...a predominantly historic black college and a station area for the Civil Rights Movement...and he didn't do shit. Even worse, when they asked him why he didn't participate, he gave a bullshit answer that he was too young!!!! He was in college in the 60's.... ::)
Any thats why no black man would vote for Herman Cain...because he had an opportunity to make a difference at the time but he was simply too chickenshit to get a beating or sprayed down with a water hose for the advancement of civil rights. Instead, he went out in the world to pursue financial gain which he achieved because of people who got their asses beat and got sprayed with a water hose.
To be president...you have to at least have some fucking balls to stand for what you believe in and Herman Cain simply doesn't
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That is why 95 percent of blacks are mindless sheep and lemmings. Suffer in pain w Obama moron. You deserve it.
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That is why 95 percent of blacks are mindless sheep and lemmings. Suffer in pain w Obama moron. You deserve it.
He's your present too for another 5 years.... ;D
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Romney is not a good choice, but no choice is worse than Barack Hussein Osama. NONE.
Anyone stupid enough to argue otherwise has no credibility or intelligence.
The economy has gone from bad to astronomically worse on his watch-- Higher UE, a credit downgrade entirely of his making+ his socialist colleagues in Congress, government regulations that have gone from intrusive to outright insanity under his administration, in the 3 years since he took office Federal spending has never been higher, outrageous government intervention into the private sector involving everything from car companies to banking regulations to healthcare to energy and everything in between, numerous idiotic pieces of domestic legislation that have crippled an already reeling economy, divisiveness in America has never been more palpable during my lifetime- class warfare marxist horseshit rhetoric+ some of the worst cabinet appointments in American history, blatantly obvious incidents of crony capitalism+ corporate welfare, the stimulus which did nothing but stimulate the bank accounts of Obama donors+ now he is pushing an imaginary jobs bill that will steal another 400 billion from taxpayers to create more government jobs-- a bill so inept and poorly constructed, he can't even a get a simple majority from his own party to pass it--> THE LAST TWO BIGGEST REASONS YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON IF YOU VOTE FOR THIS MAN AGAIN:
1) TO THIS DAY, HE DOES NOT HAVE A SINGLE DOMESTIC OR FOREIGN POLICY SUCCESS TO HIS NAME: HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED ABSOLUTELY NOTHING EXCEPT RIDE THE COATTAILS OF SUPPOSEDLY THE WORST PRESIDENT IN US HISTORY, GW BUSH--> ALWALAKI+ OSAMA+ DRONE ATTACKS= ONLY ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT.
2) DESPITE A MASSIVE REBUKE FROM THE PUBLIC DURING THE MIDTERMS AND THE OUTCRY FOR OBAMA'S JOB KILLING, LUNATIC FRINGE LEFTIST AGENDA TO STEER MORE TOWARD THE CENTER, HE HAS DELIBERATELY IGNORED THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND DOUBLED DOWN ON STUPID. HE EVEN DELIBERATELY IGNORED HIS OWN ECONOMIC ADVISORY COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATIONS (SIMPSON/ BOWLES). ANOTHER FOUR YEARS OF THIS= AMERICA IS FINISHED.
Again, you have zero credibility and zero intelligence if you support this man-- none.
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Romney is not a good choice, but no choice is worse than Barack Hussein Osama. NONE.
agreed.
In a time when obama seems beatable, we're in a great depression, and he's pissing off everyone...
and in a political world where so many people are thirsty for power, ambitious, etc...
Why are many of the "good" candidates sitting out in 2012?
Really - Palin, Christie, Jeb, Rudy... ANY of them could be whooping this GOP field and beating Obama. Is the fix in? obama will win?
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agreed.
In a time when obama seems beatable, we're in a great depression, and he's pissing off everyone...
and in a political world where so many people are thirsty for power, ambitious, etc...
Why are many of the "good" candidates sitting out in 2012?
Really - Palin, Christie, Jeb, Rudy... ANY of them could be whooping this GOP field and beating Obama. Is the fix in? obama will win?
Rubio, Thunne, Paul Ryan, Christie, Bobby Jindal, Rand Paul, Scott Walker, etc.= Conservative Stars-- I think the feeling is that one of the rag tag contenders this time around can win... but the Senate goes GOP no matter what;; with control of both houses, Osama is very limited as to what he can do to destroy America. So, if spending hawks have the Senate and Congress+ Osamacare is struck down==> 2016 is wide open for a GOP Renascence that will fix all this garbage and make America great again. Who could the dems even run?
ce
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Really - Palin, Christie, Jeb, Rudy... ANY of them could be whooping this GOP field and beating Obama. Is the fix in? obama will win?
I guess I just see CT's in a lot of things... but looking back... absent a 3rd party spoiler like perot... an incumbent prez hasn't lost in 30 years. And they usually have soft candidates to beat on. Mondale... CLinton (unknown and a mess).... Senile Dole.... Douchebag Kerry....
What makes the really good candidates sit out? Rudy would be schooling Cain right now. Jeb would smack romney to the floor. Christie would tell them all to sit down and shut up. Why do they sit out? I'm convinced Obama wins again.
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Nice retort retard, you like to talk alot of shit. With fuckheads like you representing the "black community" is it any wonder you are ignored
Made you melt..keep it up :D
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2011 POST OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FAIL..you're trying way too hard, fuckface :-*
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Downgrade ignoring them since taking office is proof of that. The Dems dangle just enough of a carrot to keep them in line and never any more than that. Morons like andre eat it up hook, line and sinker.
sigh....just when I thought you were getting smart enough to pass your GED....you come up with this???
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Romney is not a good choice, but no choice is worse than Barack Hussein Osama. NONE.
Anyone stupid enough to argue otherwise has no credibility or intelligence.
The economy has gone from bad to astronomically worse on his watch-- Higher UE, a credit downgrade entirely of his making+ his socialist colleagues in Congress, government regulations that have gone from intrusive to outright insanity under his administration, in the 3 years since he took office Federal spending has never been higher, outrageous government intervention into the private sector involving everything from car companies to banking regulations to healthcare to energy and everything in between, numerous idiotic pieces of domestic legislation that have crippled an already reeling economy, divisiveness in America has never been more palpable during my lifetime- class warfare marxist horseshit rhetoric+ some of the worst cabinet appointments in American history, blatantly obvious incidents of crony capitalism+ corporate welfare, the stimulus which did nothing but stimulate the bank accounts of Obama donors+ now he is pushing an imaginary jobs bill that will steal another 400 billion from taxpayers to create more government jobs-- a bill so inept and poorly constructed, he can't even a get a simple majority from his own party to pass it--> THE LAST TWO BIGGEST REASONS YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON IF YOU VOTE FOR THIS MAN AGAIN:
1) TO THIS DAY, HE DOES NOT HAVE A SINGLE DOMESTIC OR FOREIGN POLICY SUCCESS TO HIS NAME: HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED ABSOLUTELY NOTHING EXCEPT RIDE THE COATTAILS OF SUPPOSEDLY THE WORST PRESIDENT IN US HISTORY, GW BUSH--> ALWALAKI+ OSAMA+ DRONE ATTACKS= ONLY ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT.
2) DESPITE A MASSIVE REBUKE FROM THE PUBLIC DURING THE MIDTERMS AND THE OUTCRY FOR OBAMA'S JOB KILLING, LUNATIC FRINGE LEFTIST AGENDA TO STEER MORE TOWARD THE CENTER, HE HAS DELIBERATELY IGNORED THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND DOUBLED DOWN ON STUPID. HE EVEN DELIBERATELY IGNORED HIS OWN ECONOMIC ADVISORY COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATIONS (SIMPSON/ BOWLES). ANOTHER FOUR YEARS OF THIS= AMERICA IS FINISHED.
Again, you have zero credibility and zero intelligence if you support this man-- none.
This is really dumb and untrue but why waste time refuting it?...you won't understand anyway...better to let said nonsense stand on its own ::)
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This is really dumb and untrue but why waste time refuting it?...you won't understand anyway...better to let said nonsense stand on its own ::)
Obama was handed an economy that was in trouble. I'll give him that. But you can't honestly believe that his 1st term has been anything but a disaster. If you have ANY economic sense you wouldn't believe that.
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Obama was handed an economy that was in trouble. I'll give him that. But you can't honestly believe that his 1st term has been anything but a disaster. If you have ANY economic sense you wouldn't believe that.
sure the economy is a disaster..I concede that of course...but to say that Obama has no successes during his first term is idiotic at best...people just choose to spin his achievements into failures for their own personal comfort
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That is why 95 percent of blacks are mindless sheep and lemmings. Suffer in pain w Obama moron. You deserve it.
I'm sure that 95% of the black people that meet you, hate you :D
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I'm sure that 95% of the black people that meet you, hate you :D
It's absurd that 95 percent will vote for this moron.
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sure the economy is a disaster..I concede that of course...but to say that Obama has no successes during his first term is idiotic at best...people just choose to spin his achievements into failures for their own personal comfort
what achievements? honestly what fucking achievements? i'm not interested in him accomplishing anything until he starts making progress with the economy. It's "idiotic" to think any other way.
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what achievements? honestly what fucking achievements? i'm not interested in him accomplishing anything until he starts making progress with the economy. It's "idiotic" to think any other way.
Obamas achievements might seem a disaster to you, but to him they are since they are likely and intended to collapse the nation.
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what achievements? honestly what fucking achievements? i'm not interested in him accomplishing anything until he starts making progress with the economy. It's "idiotic" to think any other way.
well..you've just betrayed your own bias and proved my point.....as you say, you are not willing to recognize ANY achievement other than an economic one....just like the others on here...and I believe that even if unemployment went to zero, people on here would find other faults with Obama...the hatred for him is mindless.....so thanks for proving my point...if I wrote out a list of things he has accomplished it would not make one difference to you or the others on here.....I have done that before and had the same outcome
Obama should be held accountable for the poor economy.....although the ENTIRE WORLD has been in recession for the past few years but I guess thats Obama's fault as well huh?
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So you support govt sponsored ponzi scams?
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So you support govt sponsored ponzi scams?
I'm ashamed you're from New York :-[
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I'm ashamed you're from New York :-[
Every obama policy is a ponzi scam.
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Every obama policy is a ponzi scam.
I will be at Montefiore Hospital today..I know your office is a few blocks away...I feel like coming there and punching you in the head...might put some sense back in you :)
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I will be at Montefiore Hospital today..I know your office is a few blocks away...I feel like coming there and punching you in the head...might put some sense back in you :)
Whatever douchebag.
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Its not voting FOR Romney. Its voting AGAINST Obama because he has been horrendous. Got it?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA and you and McWay claim that nobody votes AGAINST candidates when they go to the booth.
HAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
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well..you've just betrayed your own bias and proved my point.....as you say, you are not willing to recognize ANY achievement other than an economic one....just like the others on here...and I believe that even if unemployment went to zero, people on here would find other faults with Obama...the hatred for him is mindless.....so thanks for proving my point...if I wrote out a list of things he has accomplished it would not make one difference to you or the others on here.....I have done that before and had the same outcome
Obama should be held accountable for the poor economy.....although the ENTIRE WORLD has been in recession for the past few years but I guess thats Obama's fault as well huh?
the hatred for him is mindless? you're blindly defending him. I don't hate Obama. I see what he is trying to do. His heart, I believe is in the right place. I just happen to think that his bailout and his spending has been a complete and utter failure. And I NEVER agreed with the Bush bailouts either. But people like you will let these guys walk all over you and shit all over the economy for no other reason other than that they are cool with abortion and they like gay people and want to see them have weddings.
Maybe I am being unfair. But in my opinion, most liberals are completely blinded by social issues and simply follow party lines when it comes to the economy. To me, a guy who has a pretty decent grasp of tax policy and economics, its infuriating.
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the hatred for him is mindless? you're blindly defending him. I don't hate Obama. I see what he is trying to do. His heart, I believe is in the right place. I just happen to think that his bailout and his spending has been a complete and utter failure. And I NEVER agreed with the Bush bailouts either. But people like you will let these guys walk all over you and shit all over the economy for no other reason other than that they are cool with abortion and they like gay people and want to see them have weddings.
Maybe I am being unfair. But in my opinion, most liberals are completely blinded by social issues and simply follow party lines when it comes to the economy. To me, a guy who has a pretty decent grasp of tax policy and economics, its infuriating.
your criticism has some merit but I really don't think I am being unfair when I support Obama...he has had some successes during his first term that people seem to want to downplay because they are biased against HIM....I just point out the biases..as with the economy, Obama does bear blame and has to take responsibility for whats happening...three years into his term he can't keep saying its Bush's fault....but I also have to point out the larger context that the entire world except for China and Brazil is in a recession....again...is that Obama's fault?....
Obama can also be blamed for his overspending..I grant that as well.....and his healthcare plan has been a fiasco...but I can list at least 6-8 things Obama has done right....maybe more
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Name eight andre.
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Name eight andre.
what good would it do honestly???...you won't acknowledge them anyway
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what good would it do honestly???...you won't acknowledge them anyway
How's this retard? I'll settle for one.
One objective achievement that isn't a Bush Era continuation related to killing terrorists.
When I say objective, I mean something that can be quantified and measured-- An actual, factual accomplishment that can stand on its own merits regardless of an outside observers political ideology.
Example: Andre was able to chew his food today without drooling all over himself and spewing crumbs everywhere. <-- Accomplishment
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333 - do you have point or is this just part of your daily dump of anything that catches your eye and fuels your generic rage?
great question !! ;D
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How's this retard? I'll settle for one.
One objective achievement that isn't a Bush Era continuation related to killing terrorists.
When I say objective, I mean something that can be quantified and measured-- An actual, factual accomplishment that can stand on its own merits regardless of an outside observers political ideology.
Example: Andre was able to chew his food today without drooling all over himself and spewing crumbs everywhere. <-- Accomplishment
well thanks for proving my point....if I had noted the killing of terrorists, you would say it was a continuation of Bush policy...nevermind that Obama has been much much more effective and ruthless in terms of meting out justice to the terrorists...in your mind and the minds of others that doesn't count as an accomplishment
you proved my point for me....BIG THANKS TO YOU...your bias and hypocrisy is amazing in terms of its sheer unapologetic brazeness!!!!..WOW
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well thanks for proving my point....if I had noted the killing of terrorists, you would say it was a continuation of Bush policy...nevermind that Obama has been much much more effective and ruthless in terms of meting out justice to the terrorists...in your mind and the minds of others that doesn't count as an accomplishment
you proved my point for me....BIG THANKS TO YOU...your bias and hypocrisy is amazing in terms of its sheer unapologetic brazeness!!!!..WOW
Do you think people losing their jobs, livilihood, seeing the value of their dollar collapsed, seeing Obamaflation in anything he touches, etc give a damn?
Oh, lets vote for obama because he sents remote control airplanes to bomb people, never mind at hime he is collapsing the nation uunder debt, deficit, regulation, etc.
Whatever - 95% of blacks are fucking morons. Sheep and lemmings. BTW - are you in this video?
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Fuck you, you worthless piece of shit. I'm sick of your bullshit you ignorant assclown. You wouldn't have a clue what the history of this country was it fell out of the sky and smashed your empty fucking skull. Always the black this and the black that be an American or fuck off. Cry me a fucking river, no republican or democrat for that matter has ever come to my neighborhood
2011 POST OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2011 POST OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FAIL OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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How's this retard? I'll settle for one.
One objective achievement that isn't a Bush Era continuation related to killing terrorists.
When I say objective, I mean something that can be quantified and measured-- An actual, factual accomplishment that can stand on its own merits regardless of an outside observers political ideology.
Example: Andre was able to chew his food today without drooling all over himself and spewing crumbs everywhere. <-- Accomplishment
Isn't it funny how the "anti-war" party is now circling around Obama's ability to murder people as a sign that he deserves reelection.
Do these people have any principles they're not willing to trample in order to retain power?
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Isn't it funny how the "anti-war" party is now circling around Obama's ability to murder people as a sign that he deserves reelection.
Do these people have any principles they're not willing to trample in order to retain power?
sine when have I been a part of the anti- war party???...FAIL AGAIN.....you're on a roll
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Its just like the crowd outside the courthouse when OJ was found to be Not Guilty.............the Blacks erupted in good cheer while the Whites stood there completely stunned. Blacks knew OJ was factually guilty, but the fact that he got off was just considered a "win" for Black people everywhere. Many racial groups will simply band together and support their own race, irregardless of fault.
In spite of ramped up wars, mass printing of money, a worsening economy, declining real estate value, increased poverty, Blacks are still going to support Obama. If Obama said he would abolish all government subsidies to Blacks and have them picking beans in a field somewhere, they would STILL support him 95% to 3% over Romney.
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Do you think people losing their jobs, livilihood, seeing the value of their dollar collapsed, seeing Obamaflation in anything he touches, etc give a damn?
Oh, lets vote for obama because he sents remote control airplanes to bomb people, never mind at hime he is collapsing the nation uunder debt, deficit, regulation, etc.
Whatever - 95% of blacks are fucking morons. Sheep and lemmings. BTW - are you in this video?
So you're mocking people that are praising Jesus??? If more people got up like they did, there would be a lot less wrong with this world, dipshit........ ::)