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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Devon97 on November 04, 2011, 05:24:18 PM
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I've learned some pretty witty comebacks that have frustruated folks I've used them on. ;)
What have you learned?
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It`s only gay if you want it to be!!
Elevator or Shaft
You know two things.......jack & shit!! ;D
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It`s only gay if you want it to be!!
Elevator or Shaft
You know two things.......jack & shit!! ;D
lol
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I've learned to stop worrying and love the Bob. He's the only one that stuck around and that, like his hair, deserves respect.
And, of course, I can be fisted by Elton John while listening to the Complete Barbara Streisand on a San Fran houseboat and it will be only be gay if I want to be.
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Another from the Chickster:
"If my aunt had balls,she`d be my uncle" !! ;D
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Yet another older "Bobism":
"If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas” !! ;D
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That not all BBs are introverted retards with no sense of humour.
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Learned a new fashionstatement from Chick, shiny silvershirts etc :D
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Chick can take it as well as dish it out on getbig.........a rarity for most pros.
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I gotta` stop posting in this thread,I feel like Howard for Christs sake! :(
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I liearnbed to love the Bob Bowl at Firehouse!!
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I've learned that his fav GB'er is Gene
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drugs are only the finishing touch.
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drugs are only the finishing touch.
fuck, you stole my line! :D :D
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I've learned that his fav GB'er is Gene
Bob likes to bully poor little Gene around :(
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The guy is the one with the dick.
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What do you mean? Have you somehow started to make passes at 13-year old girls?
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No,I`m farting more though.
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He can take abuse better and longer than any IFBB pro. He also does a good job defending himself.
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That American Gladiators was an awesome fuckin' show!
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That there's an ice machine in The Mirage, next to room 7.
Just kidding, Bob's awesome and one of the top Getbiggers in more ways than one.
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We learned that shiny suits aren't just for Derek Zoolander
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Mirage hotel 1993 room 7 next to the ice machine
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Men should know when it's time to grow up and get on with their life's work.
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dreams can come true ;)
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"it's not how much you can lift, it's how much people think you can lift"
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It`s only gay if you want it to be!!
Elevator or Shaft
You know two things.......jack & shit!! ;D
Hahah ;D
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"it's not how much you can lift, it's how much people think you can lift"
that's close...
ITS NOT HOW MUCH YOU LIFT...ITS HOW MUCH YOU LOOK LIKE YOU CAN LIFT..!
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Well now, let's see... I have learned that he is younger than me. He is what I would term successful in his chosen profession. He has a good sense of humor and when warranted can laugh at himself.
He doesn't discuss the seedier side of bodybuilding and to be honest why would or should he? It's there and to ignore that fact would be like putting blinders on a mole rat.
He and I rarely interact and if I had a greater ego I suppose that would be a bother but I understand that he comes here for the same reasons many of us do, to talk about the pasttime or as some would claim, sport, that we all enjoy - Bodybuilding.
Like us Bob has a variety of interests but unlike so many of us he is a much more "public" figure and therefor he must make a conscious effort to maintain a sense of professionalism (ref. not talking about the seedier side of bodybuilding or being a general ass ;D).
Bob has taught me nothing. He has however shown me a bit of who he is and who I see is a good man. Later, gents.
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Bench press is useless.
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Bob Chick's instructional dvd is great. Some really good exercise advice, I wish the back segment was longer tho.
Bob do you think once a week per muscle group is good for naturals too?
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Can't believe you guys haven't mentioned 'Bobservations.' Some good stuff, there.
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Bob is here to read the Gh15 posts.
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Hairdressing tips...
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It's there and to ignore that fact would be like putting blinders on a mole rat.
Great quote
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Jack and shit!
On a serious note, Bob is really the only pro that's survived the getbig thunderdome through the years. MAJOR props for that, one of the coolest pros for sure.
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I blame bob and that american gladiators show for me starting to use steroids in my teens, hope this helps
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I think Bob, although he made it his living, never took the whole bb thing too seriously, and that's his longevity... 8)
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Can't believe you guys haven't mentioned 'Bobservations.' Some good stuff, there.
[Bob servations]: this month: 30 things I've observed in 30 years
by Bob Cicherillo
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Having had a close relationship with training and competing over the last 30 years, I have been able to reflect on various lessons I've learned as I eventually made my way to the pro ranks by winning the overall at the 2000 NPC USA. Believe me, there was a lot to learn in 15 pro qualifiers ranging back to 1987!
Here is a list of some of what I have figured out during my journey. Some concepts are oversimplifications, but like all good aphorisms, there is at least a kernel of truth contained within each. Consider my advice as insight gained from experience--maybe these tips will make your path a bit easier.
1 No posing routine using a costume ever looked cool.
2 I've never seen a bodybuilder bring up a lagging bodypart by training it more often.
3 Cardio sessions over an hour never result in losing more fat without the expense of muscle.
4 The heavier I trained, the worse the end result.
5 The harder you strike a pose, the more it looks the same.
6 My mother thinks I should have won every show I ever competed in.
7 The further out you cut water, the flatter you'll look.
8 The more you carb up, the softer you'll look.
9 The answer to most questions is "In the middle."
10 The smaller the waist, the bigger the shoulders.
11 The scale has been responsible for more bodybuilders losing contests than any other factor except the next one.
12 The process of carb depleting and loading doesn't work most of the time.
13 There is no defense in bodybuilding.
14 The illusion of a better bodybuilder is better than a better bodybuilder.
15 If you think you know your body better than anyone, you're probably wrong.
16 The phrase "I'm in the best shape of my life" is the kiss of death.
17 Looking good in "bad light" means you're ready.
18 It's better to look good than to feel good on the stage.
19 It's better to feel good than to look good any time before the day of the show.
20 The average prep time is 12 weeks. The average time to screw it up is 48 hours.
21 If there are two people in a class and you don't win, you're last.
22 Just because you qualify to compete nationally doesn't mean you should.
23 Drugs don't build better genetics.
24 There is a fine line between dedication and obsession.
25 Training smarter trumps training harder.
26 The worst bodybuilders make the best gurus, and vice versa.
27 The best poser never wins the posing round, and the most symmetrical never wins the symmetry round.
28 Ninety-nine percent of competitors who don't win look better on Fridays and Sundays.
29 One hundred percent of winners are satisfied with the judging.
30 It's not how much you lift, it's how much you look like you can lift.
BONUS ROUND
* Everyone not in the bodybuilding industry knows someone bigger, stronger and better than me.
* There is no "bench press" round.
* No matter who designs them, white posing trunks look like underwear onstage.
* If I had a dime for every time someone asked me "Whaddya bench?" I'd have a lot of dimes.
* The three worst enemies to a competitive bodybuilder are the scale, the tape measure and his mind.
* No bodybuilder ever thought he was "100%" at a show.
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This is worth more than a 1000 gh15 posts. Plus less spelling errors....
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[Bob servations]: this month: 30 things I've observed in 30 years
by Bob Cicherillo
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Having had a close relationship with training and competing over the last 30 years, I have been able to reflect on various lessons I've learned as I eventually made my way to the pro ranks by winning the overall at the 2000 NPC USA. Believe me, there was a lot to learn in 15 pro qualifiers ranging back to 1987!
Here is a list of some of what I have figured out during my journey. Some concepts are oversimplifications, but like all good aphorisms, there is at least a kernel of truth contained within each. Consider my advice as insight gained from experience--maybe these tips will make your path a bit easier.
1 No posing routine using a costume ever looked cool.
2 I've never seen a bodybuilder bring up a lagging bodypart by training it more often.
3 Cardio sessions over an hour never result in losing more fat without the expense of muscle.
4 The heavier I trained, the worse the end result.
5 The harder you strike a pose, the more it looks the same.
6 My mother thinks I should have won every show I ever competed in.
7 The further out you cut water, the flatter you'll look.
8 The more you carb up, the softer you'll look.
9 The answer to most questions is "In the middle."
10 The smaller the waist, the bigger the shoulders.
11 The scale has been responsible for more bodybuilders losing contests than any other factor except the next one.
12 The process of carb depleting and loading doesn't work most of the time.
13 There is no defense in bodybuilding.
14 The illusion of a better bodybuilder is better than a better bodybuilder.
15 If you think you know your body better than anyone, you're probably wrong.
16 The phrase "I'm in the best shape of my life" is the kiss of death.
17 Looking good in "bad light" means you're ready.
18 It's better to look good than to feel good on the stage.
19 It's better to feel good than to look good any time before the day of the show.
20 The average prep time is 12 weeks. The average time to screw it up is 48 hours.
21 If there are two people in a class and you don't win, you're last.
22 Just because you qualify to compete nationally doesn't mean you should.
23 Drugs don't build better genetics.
24 There is a fine line between dedication and obsession.
25 Training smarter trumps training harder.
26 The worst bodybuilders make the best gurus, and vice versa.
27 The best poser never wins the posing round, and the most symmetrical never wins the symmetry round.
28 Ninety-nine percent of competitors who don't win look better on Fridays and Sundays.
29 One hundred percent of winners are satisfied with the judging.
30 It's not how much you lift, it's how much you look like you can lift.
BONUS ROUND
* Everyone not in the bodybuilding industry knows someone bigger, stronger and better than me.
* There is no "bench press" round.
* No matter who designs them, white posing trunks look like underwear onstage.
* If I had a dime for every time someone asked me "Whaddya bench?" I'd have a lot of dimes.
* The three worst enemies to a competitive bodybuilder are the scale, the tape measure and his mind.
* No bodybuilder ever thought he was "100%" at a show.
great list
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1 No posing routine using a costume ever looked cool.
2 I've never seen a bodybuilder bring up a lagging bodypart by training it more often.
9 The answer to most questions is "In the middle."
24 There is a fine line between dedication and obsession.
These are among the best...
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Great stuff. Some very good observations! Do you have any articles with specific training routines?
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Bob do you have any plans to release any more training dvds?
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Good info Bob,and I`ve found it all to be true also.
Let`s face it,Bob is da` fucking man!! :)
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Good info Bob,and I`ve found it all to be true also.
Let`s face it,Bob is da` fucking man!! :)
Yessir! ;D
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Bob do you have any plans to release any more training dvds?
Im sure ill put something together in the future...
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Please do these no more, Mr C...
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Im sure ill put something together in the future...
Very cool, I have your instructional training dvd and enjoyed it much more than other pro bodybuilder dvds.
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Please do do these no more, Mr C...
United we stand! Infidels will fall!
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Very cool, I have your instructional training dvd and enjoyed it much more than other pro bodybuilder dvds.
much appreciated
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This is kind of trivial,but it meant a lot to me at the time.
I`ve always admired the way Bob stuck to his guns and never quit trying for his pro-card even though back in the day,his class was fully loaded with some of the best amatuer bodybuilders ever.
I`ve met and talked with Bob on several occasions although we really don`t know each other per se`..................the first time I met him was in 2000 in Pittsburgh at the Masters Nats.
He was with Jeremy Freeman and some hot fitness chick who I can`t seem to remember right now..................... ...I asked Bob if I could get a pic of the three of them and he replied,"Why not get in the photo with us".
He grabbed a passerby that he knew and we took the pic together.
Lots of other pros could have gave a shit,but Bob was cool.
Then he embarassed me onstage in Rochester when they fucked up my music!! ;D
Just kidding Bob,you`re a great MC and a good guy to boot,plus a helluva` bodybuilder.
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Gay 4 free is acceptable for charity
If you say you dont have hairplugs people wont believe you
Many Limo companies are fronts for gay escorting
If you have supple lips you can get the judges to drop a shows real winner 8 places
If you bump your head on a headboard enough times and are starved of oxygen from biting the pillow for long enough, you really start to believe it isnt gay if you pretend it never happened
Using illegal drugs is ok if you are a police officer
Bodybuilders always voluntarily decide to leave the biggest cash cow and supplement company on the Internet
Drugs are just the finishing touch, apart from the judges lips
Wearing tanktops at expos can make you look like you lost 50 pounds of muscle and gained 30 pounds of fat
Having a bisexual best friend is A-OK
When you cant take the heat, just hit the remove post option in the admin control panel
Dressing like a Pirate who never heard of a mirror is the in thing
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"Bob Chicherillo's X-Frame Training... Or Why Benches Blow, Squats Suck, & Behind-neck Presses Are Behind The Times
Ironman Magazine: The way that a person trains determines what type of physique he or she builds?
Bob Cicherillo: Well, theres no question that genetics play a key role, but I also believe strongly that you have to decide early in your training whether you want to be a powerlifter, weightlifter, or bodybuilder. If you decide to be a bodybuilder, then you must train like one. You must also decide whether you want classic lines and shape or a Herculean physique and then train accordingly.
Ironman Magazine: In terms of creating a classic physique, you avoid certain exercises, dont you?
Bob Cicherillo: For starters, if you want classic lines, avoid heavy squats. They build a big ass and w-i-d-e hips. They also build a thick waist. Just look at all the guys in the past who had thick muscle development, thick waists and wide hips; they were all heavy squatters. They had great development, and I dont mean any disrespect. It's just not the look I want. The guys who had shapely, classic lines either squatted light for high reps or not at all.
Ironman Magazine: So you squat light?
Bob Chicherillo: When I was younger, yes, but now I never squat. Squats suck, I prefer leg extensions, 45 degree angled leg presses and hack squats.
Ironman Magazine: What else leads to a classic shapely physique?
Bob Chicherillo: ... Overdeveloped traps and front delts give you a blocky, narrow-shouldered look. Overdeveloped waist, hips, and butt take away from your taper. Overdeveloped forearms distract from your upper arms, and overdeveloped inner quads detract from thigh sweep and give the legs a blocky appearance.
Ironman Magazine: Is that where you think bodybuilder goes wrong?
Bob Chicherillo: Its really tempting to go all out on the things that youre really good at. If youre strong on squats, youre going to want to keep pushing the limits and keep it up. Thats where it takes discipline and you have to see what you want to create and stay focused, developing the areas of your physique that I just mentioned and use self-control to avoid building a blocky appearance.
Ironman Magazine: A lot of bodybuilders are afraid to stray from the proven exercises, thinking that their bodies will dissapear like dust in the wind if they stop doing some of the basics. What gave you the confidence to apply your theories?
Bob Chicherillo: I think many of the old masters had much of it wrong. Dont misunderstand me - I have all respect in the world for those who paved the way for the rest of us, but I think they taught many exercises that not only can ruin the lines of your physique but that are downright dangerous as well and can cause all kinds of injuries, possibly ending your training alltogether.
Ironman Magazine: We already talked about the squat. What other exercises do you avoid and why?
Bob Chicherillo: The bench press. Benches blow! They overdevelop the front delts and midpecs, and they destroy rotator cuffs. Think about it: anytime you hear about someone tearing his pec, what was he doing? Inclines? Flyes? No! Almost without exception flat-bench presses are responsible for pec tears.
Ironman Magazine: Any others?
Bob Chicherillo: Any exercise done with behind the neck palms-forward grip, including BTN presses, BTN pulldowns, and BTN chins. Theres no reason to do them with that kind of grip. Front presses on the Smith-machine are great for overall shoulder development, and they dont destroy the rotator cuff the way behind-neck-presses do. Pulldowns or chins are great for back. You can do BTN pulldowns with a parallel grip bar, or as its sometimes called, a Hollywood bar.
Ironman Magazine: Okay keep going, I want them all.
Bob Chicherillo: Deadlifts! Again, they build a big ass, wide hips, and a wide waist with thick, overdeveloped obliques. They also cause lower-back injuries. Heres the rest of my list of exercises to avoid.
Back: Heavy bentover BB rows - too much lower back and biceps strain. I prefer machine rows with my chest supported against a pad or bench.
Biceps: Straight-bar curls - too much strain on the coraco-brachialis muscles and rotator cuffs. The bar is an unnatural position in your hands. Let you arms hang to your sides. Do your palms naturally face forward or inward? Inward right? Thats the natural position, the one youre in when you do EZ-curl curls or DB curls.
Triceps: OH DB or BB triceps presses (with elbows in). Who made up that elbows in rule anyway? Stupid, stupid, stupid because it strains the shoulders and kills the elbows. Ask anyone about the right way to do OH triceps presses, and hell give you this thing about elbows in. Then ask why. Youll get a black stare. Then ask who originally said they should be done that way. Now the person looks at you like youre an alien. Everyone just plays follow the leader and never questions it. Instead of keeping your shoulders in on that movement, let your elbows come out. Trust me, youll feel your triceps strongly, and there will be no strain on your shoulders, rotator cuffs, or elbows. I do the exercise on the Smith-machine so I can get myself into the position without killing myself.
Hamstrings: Flat-back leg curls - goodbye lower back.
... For example, to work outer biceps for peak, use an in, or close EZ-curl grip. To work inner biceps for size and full development, work out, or with a wide grip. To work outer quads, for sweep, use an in or close foot stance. But still point your toes out. For inner quads use a wide stance. And contrary to popular opinion, I think wide-grip pulldowns and chins build the inner back and close-grip pulldowns and chins build a wide back.
Ironman Magazine: Okay so what are Chicherillo's magic movements for ultimate shape?
Bob Chicherillo: I like that. Lets trademark it! Okay here goes:
Chest: Smith-machine incline presses, incline DB presses, incline flyes, cable crossovers. Occasionally I do machine bench presses and Hammer strength declines.
Back: Wide-grip pulldowns to the front, machine rows with chest support, close-grip pulldowns with a parallel grip, cable rows.
Shoulders: Smith-machine front presses - go no lower than the nose - one arm laterals, bentover laterals, rear-delt machine.
Biceps: Alt. DB curls, machine curls, EZ-curl curls, one arm concentration curls.
Triceps: V-bar pushdowns, Smith reverse-grip benching, machine pressouts, machine dips, Smith OH triceps presses.
Forearms: Wrist curls, reverse wrist curls, reverse curls - all down for at least 12 to 15 reps.
Quads: Leg ext., 45 degree leg presses, hack squats.
Hamstrings: Various leg curls, Smith reverse lunges.
Calves: Standing calf machine, donkey calf machine, seated calf machine, all for at least 12 to 15 reps.
Abs: Crunches and reverse crunches.
Traps: DB shrugs, light for 12 to 15 reps.
Ironman Magazine: How many sets do you do per bodypart?
Bob Chicherillo: No more than 20, but generally about 8 to 12.
Ironman Magazine: Do you train to failure?
Bob Chicherillo: Almost never. I did that in the past, but I noticed that when I eased up a bit and held a rep or two back, I made better progress."
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This is kind of trivial,but it meant a lot to me at the time.
I`ve always admired the way Bob stuck to his guns and never quit trying for his pro-card even though back in the day,his class was fully loaded with some of the best amatuer bodybuilders ever.
I`ve met and talked with Bob on several occasions although we really don`t know each other per se`..................the first time I met him was in 2000 in Pittsburgh at the Masters Nats.
He was with Jeremy Freeman and some hot fitness chick who I can`t seem to remember right now..................... ...I asked Bob if I could get a pic of the three of them and he replied,"Why not get in the photo with us".
He grabbed a passerby that he knew and we took the pic together.
Lots of other pros could have gave a shit,but Bob was cool.
Then he embarassed me onstage in Rochester when they fucked up my music!! ;D
Just kidding Bob,you`re a great MC and a good guy to boot,plus a helluva` bodybuilder.
Much purple, bro. Bob is cool, and he does have a great Getbig on-line thingy, but he does allow himself a slice of ego, that we do so like to attack. Ice machine, anyone? ;D
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This is kind of trivial,but it meant a lot to me at the time.
I`ve always admired the way Bob stuck to his guns and never quit trying for his pro-card even though back in the day,his class was fully loaded with some of the best amatuer bodybuilders ever.
I`ve met and talked with Bob on several occasions although we really don`t know each other per se`..................the first time I met him was in 2000 in Pittsburgh at the Masters Nats.
He was with Jeremy Freeman and some hot fitness chick who I can`t seem to remember right now..................... ...I asked Bob if I could get a pic of the three of them and he replied,"Why not get in the photo with us".
He grabbed a passerby that he knew and we took the pic together.
Lots of other pros could have gave a shit,but Bob was cool.
Then he embarassed me onstage in Rochester when they fucked up my music!! ;D
Just kidding Bob,you`re a great MC and a good guy to boot,plus a helluva` bodybuilder.
X2 8)
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A few years ago, any order over $100 from bodybuilding.com came with free bob chick workout dvd's where he taught proper form. I actually benefited from these. Bob's form was excellent
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A few years ago, any order over $100 from bodybuilding.com came with free bob chick workout dvd's where he taught proper form. I actually benefited from these. Bob's form was excellent
Hi Bob.
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I learned that the Rusty Jeffers problem can be overcome.
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This is kind of trivial,but it meant a lot to me at the time.
I`ve always admired the way Bob stuck to his guns and never quit trying for his pro-card even though back in the day,his class was fully loaded with some of the best amatuer bodybuilders ever.
I`ve met and talked with Bob on several occasions although we really don`t know each other per se`..................the first time I met him was in 2000 in Pittsburgh at the Masters Nats.
He was with Jeremy Freeman and some hot fitness chick who I can`t seem to remember right now..................... ...I asked Bob if I could get a pic of the three of them and he replied,"Why not get in the photo with us".
He grabbed a passerby that he knew and we took the pic together.
Lots of other pros could have gave a shit,but Bob was cool.
Then he embarassed me onstage in Rochester when they fucked up my music!! ;D
Just kidding Bob,you`re a great MC and a good guy to boot,plus a helluva` bodybuilder.
Good times, bro...!
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Drugs are just the finishing touch and it's only gay if you want it to be
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[Bob servations]: this month: 30 things I've observed in 30 years
by Bob Cicherillo
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Having had a close relationship with training and competing over the last 30 years, I have been able to reflect on various lessons I've learned as I eventually made my way to the pro ranks by winning the overall at the 2000 NPC USA. Believe me, there was a lot to learn in 15 pro qualifiers ranging back to 1987!
Here is a list of some of what I have figured out during my journey. Some concepts are oversimplifications, but like all good aphorisms, there is at least a kernel of truth contained within each. Consider my advice as insight gained from experience--maybe these tips will make your path a bit easier.
1 No posing routine using a costume ever looked cool.
2 I've never seen a bodybuilder bring up a lagging bodypart by training it more often.
3 Cardio sessions over an hour never result in losing more fat without the expense of muscle.
4 The heavier I trained, the worse the end result.
5 The harder you strike a pose, the more it looks the same.
6 My mother thinks I should have won every show I ever competed in.
7 The further out you cut water, the flatter you'll look.
8 The more you carb up, the softer you'll look.
9 The answer to most questions is "In the middle."
10 The smaller the waist, the bigger the shoulders.
11 The scale has been responsible for more bodybuilders losing contests than any other factor except the next one.
12 The process of carb depleting and loading doesn't work most of the time.
13 There is no defense in bodybuilding.
14 The illusion of a better bodybuilder is better than a better bodybuilder.
15 If you think you know your body better than anyone, you're probably wrong.
16 The phrase "I'm in the best shape of my life" is the kiss of death.
17 Looking good in "bad light" means you're ready.
18 It's better to look good than to feel good on the stage.
19 It's better to feel good than to look good any time before the day of the show.
20 The average prep time is 12 weeks. The average time to screw it up is 48 hours.
21 If there are two people in a class and you don't win, you're last.
22 Just because you qualify to compete nationally doesn't mean you should.
23 Drugs don't build better genetics.
24 There is a fine line between dedication and obsession.
25 Training smarter trumps training harder.
26 The worst bodybuilders make the best gurus, and vice versa.
27 The best poser never wins the posing round, and the most symmetrical never wins the symmetry round.
28 Ninety-nine percent of competitors who don't win look better on Fridays and Sundays.
29 One hundred percent of winners are satisfied with the judging.
30 It's not how much you lift, it's how much you look like you can lift.
BONUS ROUND
* Everyone not in the bodybuilding industry knows someone bigger, stronger and better than me.
* There is no "bench press" round.
* No matter who designs them, white posing trunks look like underwear onstage.
* If I had a dime for every time someone asked me "Whaddya bench?" I'd have a lot of dimes.
* The three worst enemies to a competitive bodybuilder are the scale, the tape measure and his mind.
* No bodybuilder ever thought he was "100%" at a show.
Best post of the year. Bob, I like how you still have an old school mentality while still being surrounded by the current BS. A lot commonsense in that list.
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all drugs
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It`s only gay if you want it to be!!
Elevator or Shaft
You know two things.......jack & shit!! ;D
in reference to ripitup's breats or lack of
"you have jack and shit in your bra"
:-X
hahah
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Being a "spokesman" for a bodybuilding website means folding up tables and putting chairs away at expo's.
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What have you learned?
i've learned he needs a second opinion when it comes to fashion
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Beimg a "spokesman" for a bodybuilding website means folding up tables and putting chairs away at expo's.
lolz
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[Bob servations]: this month: 30 things I've observed in 30 years
by Bob Cicherillo
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Having had a close relationship with training and competing over the last 30 years, I have been able to reflect on various lessons I've learned as I eventually made my way to the pro ranks by winning the overall at the 2000 NPC USA. Believe me, there was a lot to learn in 15 pro qualifiers ranging back to 1987!
Here is a list of some of what I have figured out during my journey. Some concepts are oversimplifications, but like all good aphorisms, there is at least a kernel of truth contained within each. Consider my advice as insight gained from experience--maybe these tips will make your path a bit easier.
1 No posing routine using a costume ever looked cool.
2 I've never seen a bodybuilder bring up a lagging bodypart by training it more often.
3 Cardio sessions over an hour never result in losing more fat without the expense of muscle.
4 The heavier I trained, the worse the end result.
5 The harder you strike a pose, the more it looks the same.
6 My mother thinks I should have won every show I ever competed in.
7 The further out you cut water, the flatter you'll look.
8 The more you carb up, the softer you'll look.
9 The answer to most questions is "In the middle."
10 The smaller the waist, the bigger the shoulders.
11 The scale has been responsible for more bodybuilders losing contests than any other factor except the next one.
12 The process of carb depleting and loading doesn't work most of the time.
13 There is no defense in bodybuilding.
14 The illusion of a better bodybuilder is better than a better bodybuilder.
15 If you think you know your body better than anyone, you're probably wrong.
16 The phrase "I'm in the best shape of my life" is the kiss of death.
17 Looking good in "bad light" means you're ready.
18 It's better to look good than to feel good on the stage.
19 It's better to feel good than to look good any time before the day of the show.
20 The average prep time is 12 weeks. The average time to screw it up is 48 hours.
21 If there are two people in a class and you don't win, you're last.
22 Just because you qualify to compete nationally doesn't mean you should.
23 Drugs don't build better genetics.
24 There is a fine line between dedication and obsession.
25 Training smarter trumps training harder.
26 The worst bodybuilders make the best gurus, and vice versa.
27 The best poser never wins the posing round, and the most symmetrical never wins the symmetry round.
28 Ninety-nine percent of competitors who don't win look better on Fridays and Sundays.
29 One hundred percent of winners are satisfied with the judging.
30 It's not how much you lift, it's how much you look like you can lift.
BONUS ROUND
* Everyone not in the bodybuilding industry knows someone bigger, stronger and better than me.
* There is no "bench press" round.
* No matter who designs them, white posing trunks look like underwear onstage.
* If I had a dime for every time someone asked me "Whaddya bench?" I'd have a lot of dimes.
* The three worst enemies to a competitive bodybuilder are the scale, the tape measure and his mind.
* No bodybuilder ever thought he was "100%" at a show.
Excellent post Soldier. Top notch, top notch!
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Im sure ill put something together in the future...
people have been waiting for "War to the Worlds" for years.......I think Bob gave up on the idea of any sequel in the near future
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I learned that Bob is a considerate guy. Even when he dies he makes sure he puts the champagne bottle down carefully and doesn't break it.
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I learned that Bob is a considerate guy. Even when he dies he makes sure he puts the champagne bottle down carefully and doesn't break it.
lol....I wanna see that whole movie and I can't fucking find it
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This is worth more than a 1000 gh15 posts. Plus less spelling errors....
woudnt go that far,, it is very good but its diff aspect ,, not much talk about hormones it is talk about bodybuild persay the actualy overall aspect of a bodybuilderl,, it is very good posting very true posting and many of the points are right on,,
gh15 approved
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Bob is great, great poster and cool gent.
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Bobby makes us italians proud
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bob is a great athlete and spokesman for the sport.
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Good times, bro...!
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There are quite a few guys on GetBig that appreciate Bob, I always have... one of the SMARTEST Pro's in the game, ever! I've got to get one of his training DVD's soon!!
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I learned that Dewey needs to work more on his delts.
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"Bob Chicherillo's X-Frame Training... Or Why Benches Blow, Squats Suck, & Behind-neck Presses Are Behind The Times
Ironman Magazine: The way that a person trains determines what type of physique he or she builds?
Bob Cicherillo: Well, theres no question that genetics play a key role, but I also believe strongly that you have to decide early in your training whether you want to be a powerlifter, weightlifter, or bodybuilder. If you decide to be a bodybuilder, then you must train like one. You must also decide whether you want classic lines and shape or a Herculean physique and then train accordingly.
Ironman Magazine: In terms of creating a classic physique, you avoid certain exercises, dont you?
Bob Cicherillo: For starters, if you want classic lines, avoid heavy squats. They build a big ass and w-i-d-e hips. They also build a thick waist. Just look at all the guys in the past who had thick muscle development, thick waists and wide hips; they were all heavy squatters. They had great development, and I dont mean any disrespect. It's just not the look I want. The guys who had shapely, classic lines either squatted light for high reps or not at all.
Ironman Magazine: So you squat light?
Bob Chicherillo: When I was younger, yes, but now I never squat. Squats suck, I prefer leg extensions, 45 degree angled leg presses and hack squats.
Ironman Magazine: What else leads to a classic shapely physique?
Bob Chicherillo: ... Overdeveloped traps and front delts give you a blocky, narrow-shouldered look. Overdeveloped waist, hips, and butt take away from your taper. Overdeveloped forearms distract from your upper arms, and overdeveloped inner quads detract from thigh sweep and give the legs a blocky appearance.
Ironman Magazine: Is that where you think bodybuilder goes wrong?
Bob Chicherillo: Its really tempting to go all out on the things that youre really good at. If youre strong on squats, youre going to want to keep pushing the limits and keep it up. Thats where it takes discipline and you have to see what you want to create and stay focused, developing the areas of your physique that I just mentioned and use self-control to avoid building a blocky appearance.
Ironman Magazine: A lot of bodybuilders are afraid to stray from the proven exercises, thinking that their bodies will dissapear like dust in the wind if they stop doing some of the basics. What gave you the confidence to apply your theories?
Bob Chicherillo: I think many of the old masters had much of it wrong. Dont misunderstand me - I have all respect in the world for those who paved the way for the rest of us, but I think they taught many exercises that not only can ruin the lines of your physique but that are downright dangerous as well and can cause all kinds of injuries, possibly ending your training alltogether.
Ironman Magazine: We already talked about the squat. What other exercises do you avoid and why?
Bob Chicherillo: The bench press. Benches blow! They overdevelop the front delts and midpecs, and they destroy rotator cuffs. Think about it: anytime you hear about someone tearing his pec, what was he doing? Inclines? Flyes? No! Almost without exception flat-bench presses are responsible for pec tears.
Ironman Magazine: Any others?
Bob Chicherillo: Any exercise done with behind the neck palms-forward grip, including BTN presses, BTN pulldowns, and BTN chins. Theres no reason to do them with that kind of grip. Front presses on the Smith-machine are great for overall shoulder development, and they dont destroy the rotator cuff the way behind-neck-presses do. Pulldowns or chins are great for back. You can do BTN pulldowns with a parallel grip bar, or as its sometimes called, a Hollywood bar.
Ironman Magazine: Okay keep going, I want them all.
Bob Chicherillo: Deadlifts! Again, they build a big ass, wide hips, and a wide waist with thick, overdeveloped obliques. They also cause lower-back injuries. Heres the rest of my list of exercises to avoid.
Back: Heavy bentover BB rows - too much lower back and biceps strain. I prefer machine rows with my chest supported against a pad or bench.
Biceps: Straight-bar curls - too much strain on the coraco-brachialis muscles and rotator cuffs. The bar is an unnatural position in your hands. Let you arms hang to your sides. Do your palms naturally face forward or inward? Inward right? Thats the natural position, the one youre in when you do EZ-curl curls or DB curls.
Triceps: OH DB or BB triceps presses (with elbows in). Who made up that elbows in rule anyway? Stupid, stupid, stupid because it strains the shoulders and kills the elbows. Ask anyone about the right way to do OH triceps presses, and hell give you this thing about elbows in. Then ask why. Youll get a black stare. Then ask who originally said they should be done that way. Now the person looks at you like youre an alien. Everyone just plays follow the leader and never questions it. Instead of keeping your shoulders in on that movement, let your elbows come out. Trust me, youll feel your triceps strongly, and there will be no strain on your shoulders, rotator cuffs, or elbows. I do the exercise on the Smith-machine so I can get myself into the position without killing myself.
Hamstrings: Flat-back leg curls - goodbye lower back.
... For example, to work outer biceps for peak, use an in, or close EZ-curl grip. To work inner biceps for size and full development, work out, or with a wide grip. To work outer quads, for sweep, use an in or close foot stance. But still point your toes out. For inner quads use a wide stance. And contrary to popular opinion, I think wide-grip pulldowns and chins build the inner back and close-grip pulldowns and chins build a wide back.
Ironman Magazine: Okay so what are Chicherillo's magic movements for ultimate shape?
Bob Chicherillo: I like that. Lets trademark it! Okay here goes:
Chest: Smith-machine incline presses, incline DB presses, incline flyes, cable crossovers. Occasionally I do machine bench presses and Hammer strength declines.
Back: Wide-grip pulldowns to the front, machine rows with chest support, close-grip pulldowns with a parallel grip, cable rows.
Shoulders: Smith-machine front presses - go no lower than the nose - one arm laterals, bentover laterals, rear-delt machine.
Biceps: Alt. DB curls, machine curls, EZ-curl curls, one arm concentration curls.
Triceps: V-bar pushdowns, Smith reverse-grip benching, machine pressouts, machine dips, Smith OH triceps presses.
Forearms: Wrist curls, reverse wrist curls, reverse curls - all down for at least 12 to 15 reps.
Quads: Leg ext., 45 degree leg presses, hack squats.
Hamstrings: Various leg curls, Smith reverse lunges.
Calves: Standing calf machine, donkey calf machine, seated calf machine, all for at least 12 to 15 reps.
Abs: Crunches and reverse crunches.
Traps: DB shrugs, light for 12 to 15 reps.
Ironman Magazine: How many sets do you do per bodypart?
Bob Chicherillo: No more than 20, but generally about 8 to 12.
Ironman Magazine: Do you train to failure?
Bob Chicherillo: Almost never. I did that in the past, but I noticed that when I eased up a bit and held a rep or two back, I made better progress."
Good information.
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to have a "classic, shapely" physique only train bis, tris, abs, chest and quads...Thanks for the info.
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I've learned some pretty witty comebacks that have frustruated folks I've used them on. ;)
What have you learned?
That bodybuilders make poor civilians
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BOB is good guy...
But we need to talk about the hormone...
What do you think of GH and the limit amout of AAS..ect
Give us a cycle example..ect
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i also think bench press is shit, as are standing barbell curls. I only do dips and bb curls to build arms and chest.
What do you think of dips for developing chest bob, did you do a lot of them?
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BOB is good guy...
But we need to talk about the hormone...
What do you think of GH and the limit amout of AAS..ect
Give us a cycle example..ect
Bob`s not stupid.
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In my opinion, I think Bob has a lot of common sense and neutralizes a lot of BS on the forum. When I read many of the topics and replies, he is very sensible and uses intellect in his responses. I don't know the guy and do not follow the scene as most of you, however; the guy has a lot of common sense and I respect pretty much all of his comments and rebuttals. He seems more grounded than most and speaks with intellect in lieu of emotion. My 2 cents.
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I learned that Dewey needs to work more on his delts.
Lats....needs to work on his lats
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chick what is the best music concert you ever been to?
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i learned that you can get paid for stepping on dog shit
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Good information.
That was MY interview with Bob in Iron Man!
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This is kind of trivial,but it meant a lot to me at the time.
I`ve always admired the way Bob stuck to his guns and never quit trying for his pro-card even though back in the day,his class was fully loaded with some of the best amatuer bodybuilders ever.
I`ve met and talked with Bob on several occasions although we really don`t know each other per se`..................the first time I met him was in 2000 in Pittsburgh at the Masters Nats.
He was with Jeremy Freeman and some hot fitness chick who I can`t seem to remember right now..................... ...I asked Bob if I could get a pic of the three of them and he replied,"Why not get in the photo with us".
He grabbed a passerby that he knew and we took the pic together.
Lots of other pros could have gave a shit,but Bob was cool.
Then he embarassed me onstage in Rochester when they fucked up my music!! ;D
Just kidding Bob,you`re a great MC and a good guy to boot,plus a helluva` bodybuilder.
Tim... that's my experience with Bob as well. He often tries to include people.
When I used o go home to Rochester and he was still living there. He always asked me to join him and Larry Baker in a workout and always invited me to get something to eat with the entire crew after a workout. There were often 7-10 gym members walking into the Country Buffet. It meant a lot to me to be included in that.
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Tim... that's my experience with Bob as well. He often tries to include people.
When I used o go home to Rochester and he was still living there. He always asked me to join him and Larry Baker in a workout and always invited me to get something to eat with the entire crew after a workout. There were often 7-10 gym members walking into the Country Buffet. It meant a lot to me to be included in that.
did Bob offer to pick up the Tab as well?
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Tim... that's my experience with Bob as well. He often tries to include people.
When I used o go home to Rochester and he was still living there. He always asked me to join him and Larry Baker in a workout and always invited me to get something to eat with the entire crew after a workout. There were often 7-10 gym members walking into the Country Buffet. It meant a lot to me to be included in that.
He`s a good guy for sure David.
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He's very smart about training. Nowadays I just pick a few exercises from his recommended exercises 10 minutes before I go to the gym. Makes life so much easier. :)
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Bobby is a good guy - Im glad he still comes on here and gives just as good as he gets.
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His pastry skills are overrated I'd say.
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i learned from him that nothing is what it seems
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It`s only gay if you want it to be!!
Elevator or Shaft
You know two things.......jack & shit!! ;D
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
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i learned from him that nothing is what it seems
And that what seems to be somehting is really nothing.
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Im sure ill put something together in the future...
Back when i planned on being a pro bodybuilder (lmao)
I watched the mini series you had on bb.com on the way to your masters win.
Oh to be young
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that's close...
ITS NOT HOW MUCH YOU LIFT...ITS HOW MUCH YOU LOOK LIKE YOU CAN LIFT..!
THERES NO BENCH PRESS ROUND IN A BB CONTEST