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Great article:
Muscular Christianity is a term for a movement originating during the Victorian era which stressed the need for energetic Christian activism in combination with an ideal of vigorous masculinity. It was most associated with the English writers Charles Kingsley and Thomas Hughes, and in Canada with Ralph Connor, though the name was bestowed by others.
Kingsley and Hughes promoted physical strength and health (at least for men) as well as an active pursuit of Christian ideals in personal life and politics.
Muscular Christianity has continued itself through organisations that combine physical and Christian spiritual development.[1] It is influential within both Catholicism and Protestantism.[2][3]
Origins
Muscular Christianity can be traced back to Paul the Apostle, who used athletic metaphors to describe the challenges of a Christian life.[4] However, the explicit advocacy of sport and exercise in Christianity did not appear until 1762, when Rousseau's Emile described physical education as important for the formation of moral character.[5]
The term "Muscular Christianity" became well known in a review by the clergyman T. C. Sandars of Kingsley's novel Two Years Ago in the February 21, 1857 issue of the Saturday Review.[4][6] (The term had appeared slightly earlier.)[7] Kingsley wrote a reply to this review in which he called the term "painful, if not offensive",[8] but he later used it favourably on occasion.[9] Hughes used it in Tom Brown at Oxford; saying that it was "a good thing to have strong and well-exercised bodies," he specified, "The least of the muscular Christians has hold of the old chivalrous and Christian belief, that a man's body is given him to be trained and brought into subjection, and then used for the protection of the weak, the advancement of all righteous causes, and the subduing of the earth which God has given to the children of men."[10]
In addition to the beliefs stated above, muscular Christianity preached the spiritual value of sports, especially team sports. As Kingsley said, "games conduce, not merely to physical, but to moral health".[11]
Influence
By 1901, muscular Christianity was influential enough in England that one author could praise "the Englishman going through the world with rifle in one hand and Bible in the other" and add, "If asked what our muscular Christianity has done, we point to the British Empire."[12]
The American football player George Wilson prays before a game. Wilson "says he always carries his Christian faith with him"[13] and has received awards for service to the community.[14]
Muscular Christianity spread to other countries in the 19th century. In the United States it appeared first in private schools and then in the YMCA and in the preaching of evangelists such as Dwight L. Moody.[15] (The addition of athletics to the YMCA led to, among other things, the invention of basketball and volleyball.) Parodied by Sinclair Lewis in Elmer Gantry (though he had praised the Oberlin College YMCA for its "positive earnest muscular Christianity") and out of step with theologians such as Reinhold Niebuhr, its influence declined in American mainline Protestantism. Nonetheless it was felt in such evangelical organizations as the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, Athletes in Action, and the Promise Keepers.[16]
See also
New Testament athletic metaphors
Pauline Christianity
Sports ministry
References
^ David Yamane, Keith A. Roberts (2012). Religion in Sociological Perspective. Pine Forge Press. Retrieved 1 August 2011. "Muscular Christianity's main focus was to address the co
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Really, this is what GETBIG has come to... ???
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I swear these christians are bunch of fucking freaks....everything is "evil" if its not about "god". They even have like christian death metal lol.
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If I say the lords prayer between every squat repetition will I be able to be held in Jesus loving arms for all eternity?
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I swear these christians are bunch of fucking freaks....everything is "evil" if its not about "god". They even have like christian death metal lol.
"christians", yes. "Christians", no. Those that know and actually follow the Christ are better than this. And remember, I'm atheist. You want to pick on something that deserves it, try islime.
Fuck islime, muslimes and homohammed.
Lex, that was an interesting read, sir. Thanks!
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" "The least of the muscular Christians has hold of the old chivalrous and Christian belief, that a man's body is given him to be trained and brought into subjection, and then used for the protection of the weak, the advancement of all righteous causes, and the subduing of the earth which God has given to the children of men."[10]"
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"christians", yes. "Christians", no. Those that know and actually follow the Christ are better than this. And remember, I'm atheist. You want to pick on something that deserves it, try islime.
Fuck islime, muslimes and homohammed.
Lex, that was an interesting read, sir. Thanks!
No, these people are just as absurd and ridiculous with their nonsense. The only reason why they are accepted is because its been part of our culture in the west now for centuries. If you were born Arab than it would seem ok for you to become Muslim.....well you wouldn't really have much choice. We have to start thinking for ourselves for fucks sakes.
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No, these people are just as absurd and ridiculous with their nonsense. The only reason why they are accepted is because its been part of our culture in the west now for centuries. If you were born Arab than it would seem ok for you to become Muslim.....well you wouldn't really have much choice. We have to start thinking for ourselves for fucks sakes.
Nope. The words of Jesus of Nazareth and the bile of homohammed are as different as right and wrong. You can think what you want, but the difference is obvious to all that have not just the eyes to see it but the honesty to recognize it. I'm atheist.
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Nope. The words of Jesus of Nazareth and the bile of homohammed are as different as right and wrong. You can think what you want, but the difference is obvious to all that have not just the eyes to see it but the honesty to recognize it. I'm atheist.
Right, but you were probably not brought up in a Muslim country otherwise you'd be sitting on the other side of the fence. Why do we feel the need to be on either side?? It would be better to me if neither existed but the truth is humans are weak and feel the need to believe in something. You call yourself an atheist...that in itself is a belief.
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Right, but you were probably not brought up in a Muslim country otherwise you'd be sitting on the other side of the fence. Why do we feel the need to be on either side?? It would be better to me if neither existed but the truth is humans are weak and feel the need to believe in something. You call yourself an atheist...that in itself is a belief.
Atheism is not a system of beliefs, it is a system of denial. I deny the existence of a deity or deities. I do not have "faith" but those that truly do have a faith in the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth I admire. But only those that live that faith, not vomit it. There is a difference and it is easy to spot. We'll just have to agree to disagree, sir. ;D
islime? FTN.
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Nope. The words of Jesus of Nazareth and the bile of homohammed are as different as right and wrong. You can think what you want, but the difference is obvious to all that have not just the eyes to see it but the honesty to recognize it. I'm atheist.
This is a load of bullshit yes the bible is less evil than the quaran but christians are worst than muslims.
I ain't having this debate.
But it's a christian viewpoint that one must follow their book perfectly. Any non retard muslim will realize the bullshit of their religion 10 times faster than a christian.
the whole point of islam is that religion is somewhat fluid, hence why they worship allah and not mohammed, who's just a prophet(like christ), christians are the ones who believe in a god spirt/ christ trininty.
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This article is about Muscular Christianity gentlemen. Not the pagan idols of islam.
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This is a load of bullshit yes the bible is less evil than the quaran but christians are worst than muslims.
I ain't having this debate.
But it's a christian viewpoint that one must follow their book perfectly. Any non retard muslim will realize the bullshit of their religion 10 times faster than a christian.
the whole point of islam is that religion is somewhat fluid, hence why they worship allah and not mohammed, who's just a prophet(like christ), christians are the ones who believe in a god spirt/ christ trininty.
Good, because I don't debate. I just state what I hold true. Fuck islime and all who submit.
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This article is about Muscular Christianity gentlemen. Not the pagan idols of islam.
Sorry. I shall refrain from doing so. Thanks again for the opening post.
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Atheism is not a system of beliefs, it is a system of denial. I deny the existence of a deity or deities. I do not have "faith" but those that truly do have a faith in the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth I admire. But only those that live that faith, not vomit it. There is a difference and it is easy to spot. We'll just have to agree to disagree, sir. ;D
islime? FTN.
I'm just against a word being used in order for people to feel like they belong to a certain set of beliefs. Its this need to believe and belong to something that is preventing us from achieving our full potential. But to be honest there is a lot of ignorant people out there and probably need to be told how to live.
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This article is about Muscular Christianity gentlemen. Not the pagan idols of islam.
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This is a load of bullshit yes the bible is less evil than the quaran but christians are worst than muslims.
I ain't having this debate.
But it's a christian viewpoint that one must follow their book perfectly. Any non retard muslim will realize the bullshit of their religion 10 times faster than a christian.
the whole point of islam is that religion is somewhat fluid, hence why they worship allah and not mohammed, who's just a prophet(like christ), christians are the ones who believe in a god spirt/ christ trininty.
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I swear these christians are bunch of fucking freaks....everything is "evil" if its not about "god". They even have like christian death metal lol.
All I took from that article is that the muscular Christian movement was used to protect the weak and promote good, righteous behavior.
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:D
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Atheism is not a system of beliefs, it is a system of denial. I deny the existence of a deity or deities. I do not have "faith" but those that truly do have a faith in the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth I admire. But only those that live that faith, not vomit it. There is a difference and it is easy to spot. We'll just have to agree to disagree, sir. ;D
islime? FTN.
That would make sense if only Christianity was really about Jesus' teachings. Which it isn't: not historically, not even on a theological level. Jesus' "input" is far less important than that of Paul The Apostle and Augustuine of Hippo. Christianity has been as virulent as Islam. It's been now subdued somehow. Both religions are equally stupid and agressive.
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religion is shit
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christianity and western civilization did invent weight lifting to look big, much to the chagrin of the muslim fellAs
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Religion sucks. Period. Every religious nutcase would change their believe if everyone around him changes their believe in a new type of religion.
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Which of these 4 pics doesn't belong with the 3 others.......?
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Which of these 4 pics doesn't belong with the 3 others.......?
The turd....only real natural thing up there.
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Picture # 4. ;D
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The turd....only real natural thing up there.
Got it !!! ;D ;D
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Hey I figured Jesus was a real person, the turd is real, and big foot has to be more real that Skip. ha ha ha ha :D
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Hey I figured Jesus was a real person, the turd is real, and big foot has to be more real that Skip. ha ha ha ha :D
There are more solutions I guess... :D
The turd is shit, Lacour talks shit and Bigfoot must take huge dumps.....now the answer is Jesus!!
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Now this is interesting... as there can be multiple correct solutions to this given problem. Wait... what was this about again? ha ha ha ha. Ah, I needed a good laugh today. :D
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Which of these 4 pics doesn't belong with the 3 others.......?
You funny bastard!! LOL ;D
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Atheism is not a system of beliefs, it is a system of denial.
This is typical of the blasphemous nonsense that religious eggheads vomit up. Atheism is a system of acceptance, the acceptance of reality on it's terms. Religious people create a fiction to keep them in denial of reality. Simple psychology, smart people have worked this out long ago, all the stupid people (religious) are just slowly catching up.
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This is typical of the blasphemous nonsense that religious eggheads vomit up. Atheism is a system of acceptance, the acceptance of reality on it's terms. Religious people create a fiction to keep them in denial of reality. Simple psychology, smart people have worked this out long ago, all the stupid people (religious) are just slowly catching up.
I am atheist and I'm quite comfortable with my definition. It is simple and direct. Your's is a bit longer and slightly more insulting to "religious" people. Thanks!
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I am atheist and I'm quite comfortable with my definition. It is simple and direct. Your's is a bit longer and slightly more insulting to "religious" people. Thanks!
Well as someone who understands Atheism, your definition is that of A RELIGIOUS PERSON. To deny something, is to accept that it exists. So atheism isn't a system of denial of a deity or deities, as atheists, we accept their are no deities, as no evidence to the contrary has been proposed. If I propose that I saw a ghost, a phenomena that cant be proven, the onus is on me to prove it, not for the listener to disprove it. A ghost disbeliever wouldn't say they deny the existence of ghosts, they would say that "There is no such thing, and as there is no such thing, there is nothing to deny". It would only be considered denial, if the Ghost believer proved the existence of a ghost, and then the ghost disbeliever refused to accept the proof.
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Well as someone who understands Atheism, your definition is that of A RELIGIOUS PERSON. To deny something, is to accept that it exists. So atheism isn't a system of denial of a deity or deities, as atheists, we accept their are no deities, as no evidence to the contrary has been proposed. If I propose that I saw a ghost, a phenomena that cant be proven, the onus is on me to prove it, not for the listener to disprove it. A ghost disbeliever wouldn't say they deny the existence of ghosts, they would say that "There is no such thing, and as there is no such thing, there is nothing to deny". It would only be considered denial, if the Ghost believer proved the existence of a ghost, and then the ghost disbeliever refused to accept the proof.
Yours is an "argument" of semantics and definition, ergo it is subjective to personal interpretation. If that is too much for you, then know you this. I understand those that have faith but have none myself. Additionally I am most likely the last person on this board you would want to take up discussion, let alone "argue" with regarding this subject.
It is readily apparent that you think to make little of my being atheist by somehow aligning me with "religion" because of our differing definitions, if you will, of atheism. Believe me young man, there is no God. How's that statement? Fit your bill? Does it satisfy your narrow parameters? Does it make you happy? If not, allow me to indulge myself all the more... ;D
I refute the existence of deities. I deny the existence of deities. I eschew that deities exist. I simultaneously refute and reject the existence of deities. There are a variety of ways to express this and many other things in life, in this instance you have chosen but one. The gift of speech is a tribute to evolutionary "grace", is it not? ;)
I think well of you and understand your need to do this, but really now, outside arguing for the sake of ego, is this necessary? ;) ;D
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Have fun in Hell.
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Have fun in Hell.
Sorry about messing up your thread, Lex. Oh. And thanks for the well wishes, kid.
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Have fun in Hell.
We're there already..
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Have fun in Hell.
If hell would exist, it is you who would go to hell. It is you, because you think that you worship "God", while in reality you are mislead to worship a false God, the so called Demiurg, a.k.a Satan, a lesser, imperfect and immoral deity. If this world truly is wicked, it is because it's creator is wicked.
Keep triumphing your false believes in an untrue God, religious nutcase. :-*
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*SNICKER*